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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. While Shuoler and Matt Williamson with you for

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Speaker 2: the next two hours here on a Wednesday. And Matt,

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Speaker 2: I love it when a plan comes together. We spent

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Speaker 2: plenty of time talking about the Steelers secondary yesterday. I

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Speaker 2: mean really every day, every put the puzzle together? How

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Speaker 2: do we put this together? We were the best players.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't you make any moves? What happens if Corey Trice

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Speaker 2: gets back into the fold here? Well, Matt, the Steelers

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Speaker 2: have made a move, and Corey Trice looks like he

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Speaker 2: could be getting.

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Speaker 3: Back into the busy twenty four hours man Steeler Secondary.

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Speaker 2: Certainly has and so let's dive into it for kind

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Speaker 2: of our news of the day to open the show

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Speaker 2: today Wednesday. Had to think about that for a second.

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Speaker 2: October twenty ninth, Corey Trice Junior returned to practice. He

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Speaker 2: will remain on the reserve injured list, but he now

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Speaker 2: enters that twenty one day window where the Steelers have

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Speaker 2: to activate him to the active roster or he will

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Speaker 2: spend the rest of the year on IR nine.

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Speaker 3: Ten times they activated he's.

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Speaker 2: Correct, you know, made sure he sat back or something

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: I know, like when Howard started, I threw it out there.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I just want to get three weeks of practice

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Speaker 3: because that's I only threw it out because it's so unusual.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Trice will get activated at some point. You know,

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Speaker 3: we can bring it up to Chris. Maybe it's not

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Speaker 3: this week. Probably not this week. There's no reason to

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Speaker 3: do it this week. But that's great. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: think people are familiar with his work at this point.

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Speaker 3: He's Joey Porter sized, if not bigger's huge. I mean

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Speaker 3: he's crazy and long. Yeah, he's very talented. He probably

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Speaker 3: would have been a third round pick coming out of

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Speaker 3: in the seventh and sometimes those guys continue to have

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Speaker 3: injury stuff and it never works out. And that's kind

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Speaker 3: of where we're at with the guy. But they would

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Speaker 3: didn't think he could be something correct. That's all that matters,

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Speaker 3: you know, And frankly, he might be the starter off

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Speaker 3: as a Porter next year. I mean like that's possible.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's his ceiling. Could he be?

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Speaker 3: I don't think. You know, you're not throwing Rob Woodson

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Speaker 3: or Mel Blount on the roster and all your problems

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Speaker 3: are solved. Sure, but he's a big, physical man, press guy.

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Speaker 3: That is exactly what they need. Why not explore, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think we're on the same page there. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: are absolutely spot on when they're they're in saying pardon me,

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Speaker 2: let's rewind that you are absolutely spot on in saying

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Speaker 2: he's navigated. He had the injury stuff and Purdue at college,

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Speaker 2: he's had that again in the National Football League. There's

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Speaker 2: a reason why they've stuck with him for so long.

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Speaker 2: They like him a lot. I you you know this,

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Speaker 2: Matt Uh. It's something that we kind of allude to

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Speaker 2: all the time. You and I are not in the

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Speaker 2: meeting rooms. We're we're not privy to everything. We're not

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Speaker 3: We're not even the facility every day like they was.

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Speaker 2: From there tuesdays. You're there thursdays. We're each there once.

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Speaker 3: Lunch and I record a video and I go home.

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Speaker 2: I do a Mike Toddlin press conference show with Jerry Dulac,

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Speaker 2: I eat lunch and then I go home. Actually I

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Speaker 2: come here to do a show with you. But we also,

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Speaker 2: while we are not.

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Speaker 3: In it, training camp is a different story. Though.

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Speaker 2: Training camp is a different story, and so while we're

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Speaker 2: not in it, in it, in it, we also obviously

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Speaker 3: Of course, of course, of course, the.

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Speaker 2: Amount of times that after Corey Trice was rafted, I'd

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Speaker 2: and and people would be talking about Corey Trice when

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Speaker 2: they drafted him.

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Speaker 3: That's a little social area there.

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Speaker 2: It is. That's like the gossip. That's like the gossip

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Speaker 2: how much they believe that he is exactly what you

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Speaker 2: for him in that regard, but it's good timing. They

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Speaker 3: So I've been with teams and this is more so

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Speaker 3: the college level, but it still holds true. We would

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean. And sometimes those guys will just

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Speaker 3: tell you I'm doing everything I can just to give

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Speaker 3: keep risking it with them, especially at the NFL level,

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Speaker 3: you're paying them, you know, so be it. But I

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Speaker 3: can't guarantee you anything health wise, this guy's got something

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Speaker 3: that's going to be always there. Yeah, or there's no

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Speaker 3: way you're going to want to give him a contract

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Speaker 3: or I mean that's what they're paid to do, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: Or he's got bad luck that he will never know

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Speaker 3: those answers. But the fact is still.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing that it's he's prone to. He's just had

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Speaker 3: Right, Like, man, I just so bad for the guy

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Speaker 2: Or Cole Holcomb's injury from a couple of years ago

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Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with those guys be an

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Speaker 2: injury prone. No, that's just a fluke.

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Speaker 3: And there's some of them. These guys are so good medically.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, he's got these issues with his right legs,

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Speaker 3: And like I can see the writing on the wall,

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Speaker 3: you know, And the fact that Trice is still here

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Speaker 3: much that the if it's if the injuries are fluky, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go with injuried injury. If they're not, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna stick around with this guy because we like him

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Speaker 3: so much. I mean, it's still there's still a cost,

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Speaker 3: you know, ratio.

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Speaker 2: Analysis, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah no. And so with Corey Trice,

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Speaker 2: who knows what it looks like long term. But the

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Speaker 2: fact that he's returned to practice, I gotta think you're right.

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Speaker 2: This week probably too soon, but sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 2: We could see him maybe out in LA next week.

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Speaker 2: And what that can mean for the secondary could be

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Speaker 2: massive if he can stay healthy down the stretch and

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Speaker 2: provide them with real quality reps and snaps and maybe

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Speaker 2: help alleviate some of those concerns.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is, too, when you activate someone or

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Speaker 3: trade for someone, we're gonna get down that road here too. Well,

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Speaker 3: someone's got to go. They don't let you keep as

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Speaker 3: many people on the rosters you want. So when he

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Speaker 3: gets activated, is that bad for Trice or Pierre or

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Speaker 3: is there a safety that's gonna get Certainly could be

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Speaker 3: shaft with Dugger showing up. I mean, somebody's going to

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Speaker 3: You can just keep adding people.

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Speaker 2: It certainly could be, certainly could be. You are absolutely right,

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Speaker 2: and that is you know he Now you don't have

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Speaker 3: But I hope they don't all of a sudden put

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Speaker 3: Elliott on ir for you know, I thought we avoided

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Speaker 3: that could be a possibility for a Dougger too. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've seen it happen before. I'm not speculating.

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Speaker 2: Sure, that's absolutely fair to bring up, Matt. I think

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Speaker 2: you're spot on there. And then let's go there. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of the other big Yeah, it's a big deal

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Speaker 2: thing that's happened in the last twenty four hours. Not

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Speaker 2: only Corey Trice Junior returning to practice for the Steelers

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Speaker 2: and activating that twenty one day window, but the Steelers

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Speaker 2: have acquired a safety, Kyle Dugger, from the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: It's a seventh and sixth round pick swap for the

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Speaker 2: Steelers and the Pats. Dugger just signed a four year,

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Speaker 2: fifty eight million dollars deal last year.

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Speaker 3: Which is a bad deal. That's I mean, that's a

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Speaker 3: lot they made a mistake giving him that.

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Speaker 2: You better be mak A Fitzpatrick. Yeah, safety, If you're

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Speaker 2: getting that kind of money, you could bind that. You

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Speaker 2: Rabel came into the equation as well too. New coach huge,

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Speaker 2: That part's massive, new coach, new defensive scheme. He has

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Speaker 2: started sixty nine games in his career, nice and recorded

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Speaker 2: nine interceptions. That's a pretty sizable splash rate there. Matt,

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Speaker 2: tell us what we need to know about Kyle Duggar.

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Speaker 2: A pick swap in the sixth and seventh round, so

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Speaker 2: not a massive amount of capital that you're giving us

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Speaker 2: up for this guy. What's it looked like for his role,

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Speaker 2: What's it looked like for that contract, everything involved. What

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Speaker 2: was kind of your initial reaction when you saw this

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Speaker 2: the whole biography?

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Speaker 3: What is Kyle Dugger?

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Speaker 2: Kyle Dugger an American football for the New England No,

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: He was a reasonably early second round pick out of

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Speaker 3: Lenore Rhine, which is I had never heard of before

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Speaker 3: Kyle Duggar's name came across the Beast or whatever when

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Speaker 3: I was exposed with for the first time a tiny

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Speaker 3: tiny school and safeties out of tiny tiny schools don't

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Speaker 3: go in the top fifty picks. You might use a

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Speaker 3: six to seventh round pick on the guy, but he

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Speaker 3: his combine numbers are insane and at leonor Ryan, as

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Speaker 3: you would imagine, he was always the best guy in

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Speaker 3: the field, right.

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Speaker 2: Who is that?

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Speaker 3: And he's six one ish about two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: pounds and his combine numbers are astronomical. I mean jumps

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Speaker 3: change direction forty now he's twenty eight, I think twenty

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Speaker 3: nine something like that. He's been a league five years.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine, yep, thanks thanks TV Video Producer TV.

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Speaker 3: And doesn't move like his combine numbers, now you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. But in a way, remember, like n

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Speaker 3: you are a who Seattle took out of South Carolina. Similar.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's like what this guy was at the combine.

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Speaker 3: He had a serious ankle injury year and a half

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Speaker 3: moves the same sense sure, and he's also older. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Gonna talk to our buddy Chris Halleck, get all the

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Speaker 2: I know you watched one of these quarterbacks, so I

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Speaker 2: wanted to get your thoughts on what you thought as

434
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Speaker 2: well too. But Matt, let's start with Fernando Mendoza, the

435
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Speaker 2: name that you and I we're like Neil Armstrong with

436
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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza. We started talking about this guy back in

437
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: the summertime, before the college football season even started, before

438
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Speaker 2: he played a single snap for Indiana, as he was

439
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: a cow transfer to IU. Matt, I mean, they just

440
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 2: absolutely dominated UCLA. He didn't have to do a ton,

441
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: just through the ball twenty two times three touchdowns. Did

442
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: run for forty five yards and a touchdown as well too. Yeah,

443
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 2: which is nice to see from him.

444
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Speaker 3: Say that box needs to get checked, and I think

445
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Speaker 3: he's he's not gonna be Michael Vick, but.

446
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Speaker 2: No, but can you be Herbert?

447
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

448
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: Can you you know, can you be Joe Burrow and

449
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 2: use your legs when they give it to you?

450
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 3: I mean, he's clearly not a stiff.

451
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: He's clearly not a stiff, exactly right, And that's really

452
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: I think was one of the final boxes to check

453
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 2: for him. He's thrown for nearly two thousand yards, twenty

454
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, just three interceptions on the year. Matt right now,

455
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: barring injury or something crazy unforeseen drop in production, I

456
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: think he is the one kind of nailed on top three,

457
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: top five pick amongst the quarterbacks in this class. Yeah.

458
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: I mean he continues to just every single week consistent,

459
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: consistent improvement, and his team is one of the best

460
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Speaker 2: in the country and they keep winning.

461
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Speaker 3: He looks like an NFL star, Yes he does. Yea thousand.

462
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Speaker 3: I don't know a lot more to add. I mean,

463
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Speaker 3: I think it is noteworthy that he's partially but a

464
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Speaker 3: lot responsible for making a not historically great program Yeah,

465
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Speaker 3: into like a top five type of thing. I mean,

466
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: that's a lot of responsibility, you know, like it's a

467
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: different level. But like Desmond Ritter took Cincinnati from Blood,

468
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 3: you know, they kept winning, you know, went to the college. Yeah,

469
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: he said for that. I watched some of them. He's impressive.

470
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Speaker 3: I like the way throws a ball. He's good size,

471
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Speaker 3: he's got traits. He'll definitely be the mix for first overall.

472
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: Dante Moore, another guy that we've been discussing, is kind

473
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: of one of the big three of this group, along

474
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Speaker 2: with the Norse Sellers too. Dante Moore took a nasty

475
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: clothes line early in the second half, exited the game.

476
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: They took care of business against Wisconsin. He looked fine

477
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: before that, but now his status going forward is kind

478
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: of up in the air. For this week, Matt Well,

479
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: they do have a bye week part of it first,

480
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: so it's good news for that in that regard for him,

481
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: but he had to exit the game early, hopefully for

482
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Speaker 2: their sake nothing long term. They do have the bye week,

483
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: which helps, But it was almost a little bit of

484
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Speaker 2: a like a neutral Saturday for Dante Moore. You didn't

485
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Speaker 2: get to see a ton he left the game early

486
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Speaker 2: in the second half with an injury, but hopefully with

487
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: the you know, the bye week and the good timing there,

488
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Speaker 2: it's just a slight scare and nothing too serious.

489
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Speaker 3: Okay, again, you're way more on top of these guys

490
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Speaker 3: on a week to week basis than I am. But

491
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Speaker 3: I do have a real good feel for how the

492
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Speaker 3: process works. Well, you know what things you know the

493
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: scout in league is working for. We're looking for. My

494
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: hunch is More and Simpson at Bama because they haven't

495
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 3: played a ton. I bet the college playoffs have a

496
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: lot to do with if they declare or not.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think that's a great

498
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: call by you both. More a little bit more. I mean,

499
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 2: he's into the low double digits. I mean, he's I

500
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: think probably got eleven, twelve, thirteen starts now in his career.

501
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson is still at what seven or eight? Yeah, yeah,

502
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean, And so you're absolutely right if those guys

503
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: lighted up in the college football playoff and you're going

504
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: to be a top ten pick, win a couple.

505
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: Of games and beat good teams and yeah, yeah.

506
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, go be a top ten pick. If not, and

507
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 2: there's some questions and maybe you won't get drafted as

508
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: highly as you think or you hope, then maybe you consider.

509
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 3: It now the lineup with an injury or absolutely stuff.

510
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely a guy who injury earlier in the season.

511
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: South Carolina has really been struggling. But I still think

512
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: he's a lot of this one. I still think and

513
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: I know you did too. Leonora's sellers want to get

514
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: your thoughts on him. At Alabama scores late to beat

515
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: South Carolina, but I thought Sellers played pretty well. Two

516
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two yards, one touchdown through the air,

517
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: another touchdown on the ground, sixty seven rushing yards.

518
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Speaker 3: I thought he was super impressive.

519
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: I still think he Listen, if you just look at

520
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: the box scores and the way their season is gone,

521
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: I think you could be like, what's all the big

522
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: hype around this guy? Of course, if you watch it, man,

523
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: he just oozes potential. He's got all the traits that

524
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: you want. He's on a really bad team.

525
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 3: He's not a really bad table man. I mean compared

526
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: to Bama, right, I mean, I'm sure they're beat Carnegie.

527
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: Their offensive line is bad and they can't run the ball.

528
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: I know, That's what I took away from it too,

529
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: is he's not a clean passer. I mean, I think

530
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: we know that, but he's not just an athlete playing

531
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 3: quarterback either. He's not some of the terrible stereotypes, right.

532
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 3: I mean he can throw the ball well. Now he

533
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: misses some layups and I'm sure he has mechanical stuff

534
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: to clean up when continue to work on fine, But

535
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: I mean he's in modern day Steve McNair as like

536
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: a runner competitor. McNair was so strong for his era,

537
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: and McNair was a better thrower and a better downfield

538
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: passer at this stage, even though he's coming out of

539
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 3: tiny school. But that's why I kept seeing from the

540
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: guy you know is and you mentioned it, like watching

541
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: this game, he would make an incredible play where shrugs

542
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: off three tacklers, spins around, ends up with an eight

543
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: yard game, runs over a dude first down, and there's

544
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: flag hole. Yeah, Like every time, every time, it's like,

545
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: oh my lord, Like this poor guy is a one

546
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: man show against the Crimson Tide and is a fair

547
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: fight and he ends up fumbling like in the last play,

548
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 3: which I felt horrible for him because I wish anyone

549
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: else in the stage.

550
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: Made a mistake in that moment, right I you know this.

551
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: I've said this to you a lot of I think

552
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: his future also depends on not only where he would

553
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 2: get drafted if he comes out after this year, but

554
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: also happens with his head coach, Shane Beemer, who's kind

555
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: of been mentioned as potentially even despite the down year

556
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: that South Carolina is having what he's done with that

557
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: program overall and getting them turned around and being a

558
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: candidate for for for some of these other bigger time jobs.

559
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: I hate saying this because, uh uh, my team WU

560
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: is not one of the halves of college football. We're

561
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: not Oregon, We're not Ohio State, We're not Alabama. We're

562
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: in the same boat as a South Carolina, as a

563
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 2: pit as a Maryland. You get a good player, you

564
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: want to hold on to them like you did back

565
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: in the old days.

566
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: Right.

567
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: But there is a small part of me that is, like, man,

568
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: I would love to see Leonora Sellers transfer to like

569
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: a big time, up one percent program, you know, and

570
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: and see what he's their success exactly exactly right, and

571
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: and see what happens you know, with him surrounded by

572
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: you know, a program and a roster that's talented like that.

573
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: I bet his numbers would be different at George.

574
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: Without, without a doubt, one hundred percent. A couple other

575
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: guys that we got to hit on matt Two guys

576
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: that I'm starting to I mean, I guess I had

577
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: already started to, but I'm really not feeling great about

578
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: right now. Are John Mattier and Garrett Nussmeyer.

579
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: Real quick, what I've heard on my tier, and I don't.

580
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: Think his hand is fully healthy to give him that

581
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: olive branch.

582
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I know Todd mcshae a little bit. We

583
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: were at ESPN together les you go Senior Bowl, and

584
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: he's got his own thing going on, and he's one

585
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: of the he's done a really good job of just

586
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: week to week being there's a lot of draft guys

587
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: that are on it week to week like Todd is

588
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: now and I've been paying extra attention, and he firmly

589
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: believed he's like this guy shouldn't be out there, you know,

590
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: so tough as an I give him.

591
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: It's weird to me because you know that he's not

592
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, but it's also like, Okay, you're out there.

593
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: I have to evaluate evaluate between the way lines I

594
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: have to evaluate it.

595
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: But and that man that down the stretch against Old

596
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: Miss on Saturday, Matier had a lot of opportunities for

597
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: big moments, and he missed a last series of the game.

598
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: I mean, big play on third down where he missed

599
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: an open receiver, big play on fourth down where he

600
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: missed an open receiver, and and Old Miss ends up

601
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: hanging on there in Oklahoma.

602
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: It's not the value of area scouts though, one hundred percent.

603
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: You know, I was a scout for a year, and

604
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: I quickly knew that I didn't know, you know, like

605
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: if I had walk into WVU to be his old

606
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: grizzled dude that's been in there one hundred times and

607
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: brings doughnuts and knows the lunch ladies and every and

608
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: I'm just like, it's fun to be here. You know,

609
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: I'm the rookie, you know. But I mean those grizzled

610
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: scouts will know, Hey, from week six to ten, Matier

611
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: never should have been out there, right.

612
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: You know that watches tape from week one through five. Yes, yeah,

613
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Man nuss Meyer kind of the same.

614
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: Uh lsu got boat racing and.

615
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: Then they lose their head coach.

616
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: They lose their head coach, and you know, hey, maybe

617
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: it's easy to say in hindsight that he could he

618
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: should have came out after last season.

619
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: But I doesn't look like Sellers or Mendoz.

620
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. And I mean I thought he was

621
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: primed to have a huge year.

622
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

623
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, They've got weapons all over that offense. LSU always does.

624
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: It's like Ohio State, you know what I mean. You

625
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: want to guarantee two programs that always have first round weapons,

626
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: LSU and Ohio State. Brian Kelly, who I know it

627
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: hasn't gone well for him this year, but I mean,

628
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: look at the dudes that he's put in the NFL

629
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the football in particular.

630
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: You can't tell me ls Use a terrible situation.

631
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I probably got still one of the best

632
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: ten or twelve rosters in the entire sport. And it's

633
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: almost the from a fifth year quarterback that's been in

634
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: the program. These are the kind of moments where you

635
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: want to see him grab everybody by the scruff of

636
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: their neck and pull them up. He's kind of felt

637
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: like he's been dragged down, and so I'm not completely

638
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: blaming him, but I'm also not not in the press

639
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 2: where we're at.

640
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going great.

641
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: It is continues to go great for ty Simpson as

642
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: well too, Matt. I mean, you know, again, he leads

643
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: them to a comeback or not necessarily a comeback because

644
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: it was a tie game, but he leads Alabama to

645
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: victory towards the end. I think him and Mendoza are

646
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: the two Heisman favorites. They've been the two most impressive quarterbacks.

647
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: I mean, ty Simpson has thrown for twenty touchdowns and

648
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: just one interception this year.

649
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: The comp that Todd McShay keeps thrown out there and

650
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: he's like, I know this is rich. But Burrow, I mean,

651
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: in terms of his style of play, I don't hate

652
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: real precise, super smart.

653
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: Borrow had two years at LSU, but it was the

654
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: second one he really took off right.

655
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: Right, like Josh Allen, Yeah, you know right.

656
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: I can see that. Yeah, he's another oneist been a

657
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: massive riser. You can count almost on one hand the

658
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: amount of games that he started in college. Yeah, but

659
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: he is he is certainly, uh, certainly to keep an

660
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: eye on and certainly could be a top ten pick

661
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: without a doubt. Last one, I want to throw in

662
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: here for you. Matt a new name that I briefly

663
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: mentioned last week, but I got a couple tweets about

664
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: him actually from people that asked me to add him

665
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: to the conversation, and that is Arkansas quarterback Taylan Green.

666
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: Matt some same church, different pew stuff as maybe Leonora's sellers.

667
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: He is on a team that is struggling. Arkansas also

668
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: fired their head coach and is looking for a new

669
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: head coach. And he did not have his best showing

670
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: to be fair against Auburn this past week through three

671
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: interceptions of what was probably the worst performance of his season,

672
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: but seventeen touch paw seventeen touchdowns five interceptions, nearly six

673
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: hundred rushing yards and five rushing touchdowns on the season

674
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: as well too, So he can do it with his

675
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: arm and his legs. And he is like another one

676
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: of those he checks all the boxes of the stuff

677
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: you can't coach. He's six', six he runs a four

678
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 2: to four and he's got an absolute. Cannon, Wow like

679
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: he's one That i'm bad, situation tries to do a

680
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: little too much at times and pays for. It will

681
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: have a three interception game like they have.

682
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 3: No chance to like being a playoff. Team, yeah or.

683
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: No they fired their head coach in two weeks.

684
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah he, Screams, oh this is a hot. Name

685
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: now when combine senior ball all the, postseason. Totally this

686
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: guy just screamed, totally and the coaches start to get,

687
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: Involved like the scouts will nitpick him and they see things. Different,

688
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: boy he needs a lot of, work and then the

689
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: coaches will be, like give me that to work. With, yes, yeah, yeah, YEAH.

690
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: I will take that all, day every.

691
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 4: Day.

692
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: Uh so he is one THAT i THINK i said

693
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 2: to you he could walk.

694
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: Past me in the. HALL i have know a clue

695
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: who he is the first time ever heard his. Name

696
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: But i'll tell you right, now wherever people are projecting,

697
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: him he'll go earlier than. That, YES i just know

698
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: how this game. Works if It's halloween and people are

699
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: like he's kind of, interesting he's got tools that means

700
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a second round, pick will think he's

701
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: a Fourth.

702
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: AND i told, YOU i told you last week you

703
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: were absolutely, right and he certainly fits.

704
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: That.

705
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: BILL i told you last week him And reid the

706
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: quarterback From TEXAS a and M i'm like really intrigued

707
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: by and and want to see a little bit more

708
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: From and and those guys have continued in that. Regard

709
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: last guy that we typically Mentioned Jada. Mavia he's coming

710
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: on THE usc. Quarterback he's coming off of a bye,

711
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 2: week but a big one Against. Nebraska to Watch matt

712
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: Though saturday this week not as loaded for the quarterback

713
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: vers quarterback matchups this, week but seven O'clock, saturday you've

714
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: Got South carolina At Old. Miss That's chamberless Against. Sellers

715
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: CHAMBERLESS i thought played very well Against oklahoma last week

716
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: as well. Too he's another one worth a. Mention that

717
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: Game saturday night will be fun to. Watch you've also

718
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: GOT usc And. Nebraska you've Got mavia Against Dylan, riola

719
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: who next year will be he's in next year will

720
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: be in this. Conversation mate In oklahoma have to go

721
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: on the road to top Fifteen. Tennessee let's see if

722
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: mateer can. Respond those are kind of some of the.

723
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: Ones should be another pretty easy day For Fernando. Mendoza

724
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: they go To maryland for a three thirty.

725
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: GAME i know Something balloom was off his, rows But

726
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: i'd like to have seen aller versus.

727
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: That's at noon On. Saturday wouldn't be hilarious If Penn

728
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: state found a way to win that one After James

729
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: franklin being. Gone you also might want to keep an

730
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: eye on at noon number Nine vanderbilt at number, Twenty

731
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: Texas Diego, pavia The vanderbilt quarterback who's Another heisman favorite

732
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: at this. POINT i don't love his.

733
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: Potential he seems like a really good college. Quarterback he

734
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: to me.

735
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: Is Johnny manziel. Light you'd love to have him on

736
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 2: your college. Team he's not Quite he's not Quite. Manzel

737
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: you'd love to have him on your college. TEAM i

738
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: don't think his game translates very well to the. Pros,

739
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: Texas they've looked a little bit better in the last

740
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: couple of. Weeks Arch manning has looked a little bit

741
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: better the last couple. Weeks let's see what they can

742
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: do against The it just sounds funny to say out,

743
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: loud a top Ten vanderbilt. Team that just sounds sounds

744
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: funny to say out. Loud but there's around campus segment, Here.

745
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Matt as we head to the month Of, november in

746
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: week ten of the college football, season it's happening very

747
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: quick just four, games four weeks left in the college football.

748
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: Season we will get back to The south side and

749
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: all the happenings with Your Pittsburgh steelers With Chris halleck

750
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: when we return on the other. Side West, Huuler Matt,

751
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: williamson it's The drive on The Steelers Audio, network.

752
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: Your teams about drive on your twenty four to seven

753
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: home of The black And Goal Steelers Nation.

754
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: Radio all, Right, matt we're gonna call an.

755
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: Audible we're gonna talk to our Buddy Chris hallick ABOUT

756
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: i don't, know twenty thirty minutes from now in our number,

757
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: two and so we'll call a little bit of an

758
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 2: audible With. Halleck We'll coeme more time To it actually

759
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: does kind of work out better for the layout of the,

760
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: show and it gives us a few minutes here at

761
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: the bottom of this hour. Two there were kind of

762
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: a couple other and we talked To steelers news of the,

763
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: day BUT nfl news of the day things too THAT

764
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: i think deserve a.

765
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: Mention, First patriots trades and extended.

766
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: Guy you, know, yeah, Absolutely and ALSO.

767
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: I don't think The patriots are sellers by the, Way

768
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: they're just getting rid of the old and bringing in

769
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: the news.

770
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: Surplus may in their in their, minds a kind of

771
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: pretty substantial piece of league wide news. Today matt The

772
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: lions And Aiden hutchinson a four, year one hundred and

773
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: eighty million dollar extension that includes one hundred and forty

774
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: one million guaranteed highest guaranteed number for a defensive player

775
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: average salary that trails only of, Course Green Bay's Michael,

776
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: parsons who just signed his deal not too long ago as.

777
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 2: Well matt big commitment from The lions To Aiden hutchinson.

778
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: Rightfully so he's a star in the. MAKING i think

779
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: he's banging very hard on the door of those elite

780
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: edge pass. Rushers you know THAT i always Had, Watt,

781
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: Crosby garrett both Uh. Parsons, YEAH i mean, that AND

782
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: i think he And Willie anderson's another one that, are you,

783
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 3: know coming into their own and in that. Tier i've

784
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: talked about this a lot when we actually after The watt,

785
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: contract that that's one position that THE nfl does not

786
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: hesitate to, pay and you often have long. CAREERS a

787
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 3: lot of these guys have two three contracts at that.

788
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: Position so that makes all the sense in the. WORLD

789
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: i just Think The lions are super interesting because they

790
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: pay their. Dudes you, know, like, yeah they send good.

791
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: Messages you know that you do your job as A,

792
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: lion you're Gonna we're gonna reward you. Immediately they don't

793
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: screw around like The hendrickson deal Or parsons or you,

794
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: KNOW i mean some of these teams that make it

795
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: linger like, boom let's just get this. Done we want

796
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: we wanted to be your. Guy BUT i, wonder because

797
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 3: we talked about this on another, Podcast it's, like, boy that's.

798
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: Weird the trade deadline. Week The patriots Signed, Jones, Yeah

799
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: hendrickson gets or Not Henderson hutchinson gets. Extended you would

800
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: think front offices and agents are busy doing other stuff yes.

801
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: Week and THEN i threw it out to my see

802
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: my cos brought it, up AND i was, like, well

803
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: maybe they're. GONNA i don't know their. Finances are they

804
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 3: moving money around to make another? MOVE i mean they

805
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: opening cap space for today to Add hendrickson or. WHATEVER

806
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: i don't, know, right, right, right, Right but it's just

807
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: weird to do extensions on trade deadline.

808
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: Week, yeah you. Are the timing of it is. FUNNY

809
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: i don't think the announcement of its surprises, anybody but

810
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: the timing of it is certainly. Funny it's not a huge.

811
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: MOVE i referenced The jones The nickel corner that The patriots. Resigned,

812
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: SEE i think they're smart that they're trying to send

813
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: a message to their locked. Room we just traded two

814
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: of your. Guys but it's not because we're not in.

815
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: It we were, sure, sure we still are invest in

816
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 3: all you. Guys you, know it sends a good message

817
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: while two people walk out the. Door, well it goes

818
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: a long way when you extend someone in the locker.

819
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: ROOM i, mean it's you've talked about that. Before it's,

820
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: like it's everybody feels. Good it puts a nice pep

821
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: in your.

822
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: Step, yeah you guy deserved.

823
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: It especially that. Guy, yes six sacks this, season twenty

824
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: nine quarterback. Pressures that's second in THE, nfl only Behind Micah.

825
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: Parsons four forced, fumbles tied for the league lead With Joey.

826
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: Bosa he's played almost ninety three percent of The.

827
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: Lions Dey crazy.

828
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: Also credited with creating two interceptions via ESPN's Next Gen.

829
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: Stats of, course the second overall pick in twenty twenty

830
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: two gets his big pay, day and you mentioned some

831
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 2: of those names For detroit recently Ending goff two hundred

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00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: and twelve. Million I'mon, Ross Saint brown one hundred and twenty,

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00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: Million Penney sold one hundred and twelve, Million Jamison williams eighty,

834
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: Million joseph eighty five, million McNeil ninety seven, Million Taylor

835
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: decker sixty. Million he they, said and that is That you're,

836
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: right that's a that's an organizational, thing AND i think

837
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: it has clearly worked out for them the way that

838
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: they've been doing it.

839
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: Here so you Mentioned hutchinson and. Pressures, coincidentally before that

840
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: even came, across someone tagged me on a tweet saying

841
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: check this, out you, know and it was pressures per

842
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: game this. Year hutchinson's number. ONE i mean he's had.

843
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 3: It Goes, Hutchinson, Parsons Willie, Anderson, Verse carloftis Tuy Tupu,

844
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: lopo Heinz Allen lay, two and Then Nick. Herbig the

845
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: reason they tweeted me is, like Because herbig's ninth in

846
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 3: pressures per.

847
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: Game while not playing nearly as many.

848
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: Said he plays half the staff to those guys, too you.

849
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: Know that's why the twreeted. Me but it just so

850
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: Happens hutchinson happened to be. One i'm, like oh, WOW

851
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: i mean he say, again have he probably would have

852
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: Been Defensive player of The year had he not got injured.

853
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: LAST i think. So, yes he was on that, pace

854
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: certainly on that. Pace and it's good to see him

855
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: that that that that he's put that behind him and

856
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: gotten back to himself because he's fun to watch and

857
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: he's a really good, player and he gets the payday

858
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: to to recognize that and to deserve.

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