1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks insiders. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 2: At the coal line. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: At the one, the hand off the walker, he goes 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: left side and he's gonna get in touchdown. 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 3: Shayhawks getting you ready for Seahawks football. Every Sunday Wiz 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: is coming throw inside, gets picked up. 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Leo Williams coming near side. He's running like a RADS horse. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: He not midfield. Turn to feel ad blockers. Holy smoker, 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: you kidding, Leo Williams. It's gonna take it in for 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: a touchdown. 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: Shay Hawks presented by Delta, the official airline of the Seahawks. 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Gen Mueller. 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: Jen Mueller is actually not your host today. You're stuck 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: with me John Boyle. But the payoff is you get 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: the one and only Rob Rang the best draft analysts 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: in the business, for my money. And we are here 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: today broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio, presented by Sony, 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: an official partner partner of the Seattle Seahawks. 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: Rob welcome, Thank you so much. 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: John. I appreciate well. 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 3: Obviously the NFL Draft big deal for every NFL team, 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: and I know the Seahawks came out of this one 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: feeling really good about it. We ran into one of 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: the scouts in the hallway, Ryan Florence, who was you 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: could just sense the energy coming off of him as 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: we walked down here to the podcast studio. Just big 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 3: picture wise, what do you take away from what the 28 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: Seahawks got done last three days. 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: I'm really excited about what they were able to accomplish here. 30 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: I thought that this was a draft that's set up 31 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 4: well for them, that they needed to kind of address 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: the Alliant's scrimmage, and I thought that they did so 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: in spectacular fashion, got themselves a young, dynamic quarterback. You know, 34 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: I think this is my job is to try to 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 4: be as you know, as fair as possible, as impartial 36 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 4: as possible with all thirty two NFL teams. But I 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: can tell you this, I don't think that anybody, any 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: of the NFL teams out there did better than the 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: Seahawks in the twenty twenty five drive. 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: Gray is Abel, obviously their first pick, addressed an obvious 41 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: need for this team. They go out, they get, you know, 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: arguably the best interior guy in this draft, and as 43 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: we heard from Josh Eider, he is who they saw 44 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: as their top interior guy. 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: We were able to land our number one interior offensive 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 5: lineman Grey Zabel. I believe it's the highest player we've 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 5: picked since interior player we've picked since Hutch, which was cool. 48 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 5: I was able to be part of that with Coach 49 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: Homer and Ted Scott mccuan and that crew. So it's 50 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 5: pretty fun. And Hotch loves him. Every loves this guy. 51 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 5: Just he's just buttoned up, tough, smart, reliable, our kind 52 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 5: of guy. And uh, really, you know, our first exposure 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 5: was at the Senior Bowl when he. 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: Had a great week down there and it was like. 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 5: And we felt like eighteen to where we were, you know, 56 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 5: it was like a sweet spot for the interior offensive lineman. 57 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 5: No Booker went twelve. 58 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, so just really excited Rob. 59 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Just what's your your big takeaway on Zabel? 60 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: I know he was a guy that by the time 61 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: the draft rolled around, a whole lot of people thought 62 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: might be coming to Seattle. 63 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 64 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: I did think that there was a chance that he 65 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: would fit in well with the that he would be 66 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 4: available to the Seahawks and certainly fit well with what 67 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: they're looking to do. Of course, then this wide zone 68 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 4: offense where there's a priority on athletic ability that that's 69 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: The thing is Grey's Abel was spectacular in workouts at 70 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 4: the Combine and then John Schneier mentioned it. At the 71 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl, Grey's Abel basically was kind of stealing repetitions 72 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 4: and he was he was blocking as a guard, he 73 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 4: was blocking as a center. And then previously at North 74 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 4: Dakota State, of course, he had played an awful lot 75 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: of tackle and it didn't regard, it didn't matter who 76 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: was up playing opposite him, what position that greys Abel 77 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: was lying up at. 78 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: He was just stonewalling people. 79 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: And so I think that he proved himself to be 80 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 4: well worthy of a top twenty selection at the Senior Bowl, 81 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: and then follow that up with the Combine. And I 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: thought that once that the Seattle was on the clock 83 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: at number eighteen overall and Zabel was available, then it 84 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: was basically a slam dunk selection. 85 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: For these guys coming from the smaller schools, from FCS schools. 86 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: How big is that opportunity at the Senior Bowl when 87 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: they get to line up against you know, power five 88 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: guys and put pads on and show what they can do. 89 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: It's absolutely massive. 90 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: That's the thing is that one of the arguments that 91 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: we've had as as far as why the Seahawks would 92 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: not take grays Abel, is that in the in the 93 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 4: past fifteen years, John Shining and the Seahawks had never 94 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 4: invested a top one hundred selection in a FCS prospect, 95 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 4: and so you know, that's that's who greys Abel was 96 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 4: competing against. The only time that they had gone up 97 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: against Division IE player or Division one team was against Colorado. 98 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 4: So you only had one game in the last four years, 99 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: you know, in which he had played against that type 100 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: of competition. 101 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: So you were a little worried about that. 102 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: And then you go to the Senior Bowl and you're 103 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: you're hoping that he is going to play reasonably well, 104 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 4: just just prove that you can compete at this level. Instead, 105 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 4: grays Abel went there and dominated. He was the best 106 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: blocker in my opinion, of anybody there at the Senior Bowl. 107 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: And it wasn't just my opinion. 108 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: He was voted as the best offensive lineman throughout the 109 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 4: week of practice. So again, I think that he we 110 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 4: just kind of slammed home the idea that he was 111 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: going to be a first round selection. And that's why 112 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: I think that the Seahawks scouts and coaching staff sound 113 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: like they're very, very excited about table. 114 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: Day two of the drafts started off early for the 115 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: Seahawks in the action early move up pick number thirty five, 116 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: which is the earliest John Shier's ever traded up in 117 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: a draft. He's made some Day two picks up, but 118 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: never gone up as high as thirty five. They did 119 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 3: that to get safety Nick emmun Worry from South Carolina. 120 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: You know, one of the best athletes in this whole 121 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: draft and the guy that they liked so much, as 122 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: John Schinder told us they thought about moving up even 123 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: late in round one to get him. 124 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: Last night, we were really you know, we had a lot 125 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 5: of conversations about you know, how do we how do 126 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 5: we do this? I mean, you know, we almost traded 127 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: back up in to get Nick. 128 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: Everyone was extremely passionate about it. 129 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 5: You know, if we would have come out of the 130 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 5: draft without him, we would have been disappointed. Now, same thing, 131 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 5: I mean, the same thing with Elijah. I mean he 132 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 5: was talking, you know throughout the process, throughout all of 133 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 5: our meetings, there's no way like how do we are 134 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 5: we gonna be okay with this guy? 135 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: Like what are we gonna be able to use them? 136 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 137 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: Like this guy's like, how do you add that guy? 138 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: And Uh, it's all for like the people, the competitors. 139 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 5: The athletes, they just feel like they just they always 140 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 5: feel special. 141 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: I can't describe it any different. 142 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 5: Than to say they feel special, like they feel different. 143 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: And it's a great thing. 144 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 5: Like I said last night, respecting the group of players 145 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 5: that's you right now. To add these guys in, it's 146 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 5: gonna be outstanding. 147 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: That's to me is one of the most exciting aspects 148 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: of this draft is I felt like the Seahawks basically 149 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 4: checked the major box if they had to by getting 150 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: the offensive lineman in the first round, and then they 151 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: were able to kind of, you know, just have some fun. 152 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: Let the draft kind of you know, take the best 153 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: talent that the elite athletes that were available. And if 154 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 4: you didn't weren't sure that a player like a nick 155 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: Emmon War was going to fall all the way down 156 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: to number. 157 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: Fifty, then be aggressive. 158 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 4: You had built up enough draft picks that you could 159 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 4: actually use some of that draft ammunition to move up. 160 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: And that's exactly what they did. And it's like Nicki Mimnwori. Look, 161 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: this was a first round selection all day long. And 162 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: the fact that he fell out of the first round. 163 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 4: I think is just more of a reflection of the 164 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: fact that there were so many linemen, offensive end, defensive 165 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: lineman that went in. 166 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: The first round. 167 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: I counted up, there was eight offensive linemen that went 168 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: in the first round. I mean, of course, there's only 169 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 4: thirty two first round selections, so for a full quarter 170 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: of those selections to be offensive lineman, that is going 171 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: to push some really good football players down the board. 172 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: Nicki Minwori, I just love the versatility that he offers 173 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 4: to size six, two hundred and twenty pounds, just the 174 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: elite athlete that he is. To me, he is that 175 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: movable chess piece that Mike McDonald's going to absolutely just 176 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: love being able to utilize. And then jumping to the 177 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: tight end. Don Schneider mentioned Elijah Arroyo from Miami, and 178 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: I guess I should even almost put in air quotes 179 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: the idea of tight end with Elijah Arroyo, because he 180 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 4: just moves like a smaller man. He's six foot five, 181 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty five pounds, and yet he looks 182 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: like he could play the wide receiver position, and he 183 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: actually lined up against cornerbacks at times at the University 184 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: of Miami as well as at the Senior Bowl and 185 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: just demonstrate his ability to not only get open, but 186 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: to make contested catches and then run away from smaller, 187 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: typically quicker defensive backs. I think that again, this is 188 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: another player here that is going to just diversify seatles 189 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 4: offense and create that much more of a big play 190 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: threat down the stretch. 191 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: It's worth talking about too here that kind of the 192 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: ability to do this shows the exciting part of a 193 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: draft when you get those extra picks in Day two, 194 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: like they were able to do this because of the 195 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: trades they made, getting that third round pick for Gino Smith, 196 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: getting that second round pick for DK Metcalf, where you 197 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: can make a big move up and you're still sitting 198 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: there with two second round picks and a third when 199 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 3: you come out of the day to that's some players 200 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: they really like. 201 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: Rob. 202 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: Now we go to one of the more you know, 203 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: interesting and exciting picks potentially in this draft for the Seahawks, 204 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: a guy that you know, quarterbacks not necessarily need for 205 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: this team. But by the time you got to the 206 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 3: third round, Jalen sitting there right at the top of 207 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: their board, and they get a really explosive player. I know, 208 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: obviously there's you know, maybe some concerns or limitations on 209 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 3: him as a passer right now. But with the arm 210 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: talent that he has, and obviously the athleticism, just what 211 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: kind of player do you see in him? 212 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 4: To me, he is the ultimate lottery ticket in this 213 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: entire draft class. I just see a guy that is 214 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: a developing passer. There's no question about that. But you 215 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: of course have a quarterback that is a pro bowler 216 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 4: in Sam Darnold that you brought in, and so you know, 217 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: you feel already good at as a starter that you 218 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: have the quarterback in place right now. If you are 219 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: looking to develop a player, then why not have a 220 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: guy that could be special? And Jayla Monroe has that. 221 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: This is a guy that his straight line speed, his 222 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: agility to make people miss, then just the power. I mean, 223 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: this is a guy who is just rocked up six 224 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 4: foot two hundred and twenty pounds and is just is 225 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 4: physically put together as you're ever going to see at 226 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: the quarterback position. 227 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: He's there. 228 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: There's some elements of his play that are reminiscent former 229 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 4: Alabama quarterback Jalen Hurts, who of course was the MVP 230 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: of this last Super Bowl, and so that's exciting. But 231 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: he also has the breakaway speed of a guy like 232 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, and so again just so exciting about the 233 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: potential that he offers. I would not be surprised at 234 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: all to see the Seahawks runs some different systems to 235 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: try to get Jayle Monroe onto the field. 236 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: Early, even as a rookie. 237 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: But I think that the exciting thing about Milroe is 238 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 4: just what he could be a couple of years down 239 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 4: the line. 240 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And one thing with Milroe that you know, I 241 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: think as worth mentioning is even if he's not the 242 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: most polished passer right now, this isn't a guy who like, 243 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 3: oh he doesn't he doesn't have the arm talent to 244 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: make this, or like he's got the arm strength. He's shown, 245 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: maybe not consistently all the time, but he can make 246 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 3: all the throws. And as he told us on a 247 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: conference call, like he's a confident dude that he knows 248 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: he can make all the plays. 249 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 6: There's nothing I can't do in a football too. 250 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 7: The thing that improve on absolutely, but it's not it's. 251 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 6: Nothing I can do on the football field. I've thrown 252 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 6: every type of surchon. Now, I stepped up in the pocket, 253 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 6: thrown on the run, I'm going through progressions. I've thrown 254 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 6: a check down on the next score, I've used my legs. 255 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 7: So, you know, looking at it, you know, taking too 256 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: much one on the field, I can do it. So 257 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 7: I'm just I say that humblely, you know, not you. 258 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 6: Know, not over arrogant. 259 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 7: It's just more just knowing what I bring to the table. 260 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 6: And knowing that I just just a different dynamic when 261 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 6: it comes to being on the super ball field that 262 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 6: I know I'm gonna utilize. 263 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: In n F field, and uh yeah, just a really 264 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: exciting player, as you mentioned, and that that takes us 265 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: into day three now and a wild start today three. 266 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: I you know, I'll write about this later on on 267 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: c X dot com. But I'm lucky enough to be 268 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: in the draft room for parts of the draft and 269 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: watch that all unfold for you guys, you know, watching that, 270 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: you know, just seeing it all go on TV. Just 271 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: what's kind of the reactions Seahawks are. They're moving back, 272 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: they're trading a player, they're trading out of another pig, 273 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: and just doing a lot of juggling all at once. 274 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: They're to start round five. 275 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fascinating because there there was quite the 276 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 4: long wait before the Seahawks were on the on the clock, 277 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 4: and then there was a trade down and then as 278 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: you mentioned, you know, the Seahawks wound up trading Sam 279 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: Howell at the quarterback position, and then they're taking Riley Mills, 280 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: a defensive tackle from from Notre Dame. That, then, again, 281 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 4: I think, just fits in so well to the Seale culture, 282 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 4: to what Mike McDonald's looking to have on the defensive line, 283 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: where you have guys that not only can't get to 284 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: the quarterback, but also have just the physicality the toughness 285 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: to be able to play the run as well. 286 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: You know, this is a guy that reminds me a 287 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: little bit. 288 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: Of the player that Seattle traded for a year ago, 289 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: a veteran in Roy Robertson Harris. His ability at six 290 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: foot five, two hundred and ninety pounds roughly to play 291 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,479 Speaker 4: inside as a traditional defensive tackle also. 292 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Slide all the way outside. 293 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: Again, I just think that when I when I imagine 294 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: Mike McDon defense, not only this past season with the Seahawks, 295 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: but previously with the Baltimore Ravens, that pressure came in waves, 296 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 4: and that's one of the things that I feel that 297 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: that Riley Mills is going to be able to help 298 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: the Seahawks provide. And it is important to note that 299 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: he is coming off of a knee injury, but that's 300 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: one of the reasons why he was available at picking 301 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: number one. 302 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: Hundred and forty two overall. 303 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: Win healthy, and the Seahawks expect him to be healthy 304 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 4: at some point this upcoming season. 305 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: When healthy. 306 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: This is a guy who absolutely deserve of a top 307 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 4: one hundred selection, the Seahaws guy at one forty two overall. 308 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: They basically got a bargain basement price for a player 309 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 4: that I think is going to wind up being an 310 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: NFL starts. 311 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: That's something Shiner point out the Royo as well. 312 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: He said, you know, this may be a top fifteen 313 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 3: talent if he's healthy throughout his career, but he missed 314 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: so much time. Where is somebody's been around skying a lot, 315 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: Like where is that sort of give and take? How 316 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: do you find the balance of, Man, this guy's really talented, 317 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: but we got you know, injury history or you know, 318 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: coming off of fresh injury. 319 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: Things like that. 320 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 3: Just how do teams sort of decide how to make 321 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 3: those decisions. 322 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 4: Well, that's one of the interesting things is that it 323 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: used to be that the fifth round was kind of 324 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 4: used as the round where, okay, you can get a 325 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 4: little bit cute, you can a player who's coming off 326 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: of an injury or a player that had some type 327 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: of character red flags or something of that nature. 328 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: That wasn't the case. 329 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: At all as far as character red flags of any 330 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: of the players that the Seahawks drafted here, but they 331 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: did have some players, as we just mentioned with Elijah 332 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: Royo and Riley Mills, that are coming off of injuries. 333 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 4: I think that just in today's air, I mean I've 334 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: been doing this now for twenty five years. In today's air, 335 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: to be coming off of a of a you know, 336 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 4: surgically repaired knee or something of that nature, then it's 337 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: just there is a belief that the player is going 338 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 4: to come back as good, or bigger or stronger than ever. 339 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 4: And so I think that you have to you know, 340 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 4: it certainly recognized that every player and their recovery is unique. 341 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: But at the same time that if. 342 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: You had a grade on a player that was, you know, 343 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: say a third round pick, then at most you should 344 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: probably only be dropping him around anymore. 345 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: Otherwise you're you're in danger here to lose them. 346 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And when you have talents as dynamic as 347 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 4: Elijah Royo, as steady as as Riley Mills, and I 348 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: think that again, the Seahawks played this beautifully because if 349 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: you were way too much longer, then you're going to 350 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 4: be finding a much less talented player available to. 351 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: And then they had to wait a little bit there 352 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: in round five after because they did trade back that 353 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: with that one for four, that was a move back 354 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: they made. And then with one sixty six they go 355 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: Tory Horton, a receiver from Colorado. You know, a guy 356 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: that was very productive for a couple of years. As 357 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: you mentioned, there was the injury last year, but a 358 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: guy put up some big numbers, win healthy. 359 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: What do you like about his game? 360 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot to like about Tory Horton's game. 361 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 4: He was one of my favorite selections of this entire 362 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: draft for the Seahawks. I remember back to watching Tory 363 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: Horton at Nevada and then watching him make the He 364 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: wound up transferring the Colorado State and was just as 365 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: productive at Colorado States as he was in the Flashes. 366 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: Early in his in his career at at Nevada, he's 367 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: six foot three, he's one hundred and ninety six pounds. 368 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: He runs in the four fours. 369 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: Uh, just a couple of. 370 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: Weeks after a small procedure on his knee as well. 371 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 4: So again, when you when you are a player that 372 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: hasn't had an opportunity to fully recover, to fully get 373 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: into you know, sprinting shape, and yet you still just 374 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 4: basically wake up and run a four to four. I 375 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: mean it's like Willie Mays Hayes out of you know, 376 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: the movie Major League, and I realized that that's a 377 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: great reference. He's in a baseball reference here. 378 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: Our producer Ashley will not understand a Major League reference 379 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: because that was before her time, But well I got. 380 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: You that might be true. 381 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: But still it just it speaks to how explosive an 382 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: athlete that Tory Horton is. He was a two time 383 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: All Mountain West player as far as being as a 384 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: as a pass catch with a wide receiver position over 385 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: one thousand receiving yards each of the past couple of seasons. 386 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: And then what I like most about I mean, I 387 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: think that the Seahawks also are very much going to 388 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: appreciate that is that he brings legitimate punt return skills. 389 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: He had a punt return for a touchdown each of the. 390 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 4: Last three seasons, so it's not just one splashy play. 391 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: This is a you know, consistent production. Again, he has 392 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 4: the size that you're looking for on the outside. He 393 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: also has elite speed. So very excite about what Tory 394 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: Horton might be able to provide a Seahawks team. As 395 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 4: you mentioned, John, that they have to replace you know, 396 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: Dk Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. I feel confident that they 397 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: have them the pass catchers to be able to do so. 398 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: I didn't mention that, but thanks for bringing that up, 399 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 3: because yeah, so you're right. This is you know, they 400 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 3: go out and sign Cooper Cup but they still you know, 401 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: have some in Marque style just ganting, but they still 402 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 3: you know, wanted to get deeper at receiver and add 403 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: some talent. And you brought up the return thing. I mean, 404 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 3: that's a very unset position for them right now. They 405 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: don't have a clear cut returner. So to kind of 406 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 3: check all those boxes and then we'll get to it later, 407 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: but add another receiver later on. I think that's really 408 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: going to help them feel deep at that position. 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And continuing in 416 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: the fifth round, a full back not a pick you 417 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 3: always see in the draft in this day and age, 418 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: but from what we've heard from Clint Kubiak, from Mike McDonald, 419 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: we knew a fullback is going to be part of 420 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: this offense. So what can you tell us about Robbie oots? 421 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: Really exciting player. I mean it's not often that I 422 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: say something like that about a full back. You're talking 423 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 4: about a guy who's six foot three, two hundred and 424 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: seventy four pounds and yet still was clocked in I 425 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 4: believe that John Schneiers. 426 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: At n nineteen miles an hour on the GPA. 427 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: They just think about that. 428 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're driving your car, you know, down 429 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 4: the road and you see somebody pass by you at 430 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 4: twenty miles an hour, You're not expecting to be two 431 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 4: hundred seventy four pounds. And so the amount of speed 432 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: and power in which that is creating that combination, just 433 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: imagine that at the full back. 434 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: Position, I mean, he is going to be able to move. 435 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 4: People at the lion scrimmage, He's going to be able 436 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: to knock linebackers. I mean, linebackers are usually some of 437 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 4: the biggest, toughest, nastiest guys on the field. And he 438 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: and he's getting out weigh by twenty pounds exactly. And 439 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 4: so that to me is one of the most exciting 440 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 4: things about this. It's the fact that we talked about 441 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 4: the Alabama former Alabama quarterback Jlen Milroe and his ability 442 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 4: as a runner. 443 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: Now you have an OO. 444 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: It's a player that is that that knows him well 445 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: and is going to be able to the combination of 446 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 4: the two could create some really dynamic packages there, you know, 447 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: close to the close to the red zone and area 448 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: in which the Seahawks have struggled. And so I think 449 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 4: that whether it be as a lead blocker for Sea 450 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 4: How's talented stable of running backs, or in a possible 451 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 4: wildcat quarterback situation, even a tush push situation, Boots is 452 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: going to be able to provide the oomph for the 453 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: Seahawks as well. 454 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: Boots with the oomph, let's get on T shirt, Rode, 455 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try. Speaking of moving people, the Seahawks went 456 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: back to the offensive line in round six, pick one, 457 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: Brice Cable Dow out of Kansas, the guy. 458 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: You know, kind of a theme of this draft. They 459 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: got a lot of athletic dudes. 460 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: Do test really well across the boards athletically. 461 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about Bryce's game? 462 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: Well, very athletic. 463 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: He was one of the players that I think was 464 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 4: very much moving up in the draft realm. 465 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: As we were getting a little bit closer. 466 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: He had some buzz about him, and typically when you 467 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: have a player that has some buzz, then every NFL 468 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: team is kind of talking about him. I had some 469 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 4: scouts that that I was kind of checking in with 470 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: him about him. Excuse me, and just because North Dakota 471 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 4: State is as crazy as it might sound. In North 472 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 4: Kota State, of course, is where the first round selection 473 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: breze Abel went to college. North Dakota State is well 474 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 4: known in among NFL scouts for being kind of a 475 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: hotbed for offensive line talent. But Kan's Jayhawks, as crazy 476 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 4: as it might sound, have become a bit of a 477 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 4: hotbed for offensive linemen as well. We've seen a number 478 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: of players here in recent years to come from Kansas 479 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 4: and be very successful. 480 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 2: That's the thing about Cable doing is. 481 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: That he has great agility for a player that was 482 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 4: playing at the left tackle position at Kansas. I think 483 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 4: he's gonna most likely slide inside to guard for the Seahawks. 484 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 4: And again, his lateral agility, his straight line speed is 485 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 4: just very intriguing for the type of offense in which 486 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 4: the Seahawks are going to be implemented. 487 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: And then next up, the Seahawks went back to Miami 488 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: and back to running back, getting Damien Martinez. Now I'm 489 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: not gonna pretend that I watch a lot of acc football, 490 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: So first I didn't really know a lot about Martinez, 491 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: and then I thought, you know, that name rings a belle. 492 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: That's because what he was doing in Oregon State in particular. 493 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: You know, he had a couple of huge games against 494 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: the Huskies. So he came on his conference call with 495 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: us and he called himself Beastmode two point zero. That's 496 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: a big statement for a guy coming in the NFL, 497 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: especially to this franchise. But man, the dude does run 498 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: with some power. What have you seen watching watching Martinez? 499 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, as you said power, just you know, it's it's 500 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 4: not only the power. He plays for a guy who 501 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: is six foot two hundred and seventeen pounds John And 502 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 4: a lot of times you see backs of that height 503 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 4: that play too upright. He will lower his shoulder into 504 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: defensive players the way that marshau Lynch of course used to. 505 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: He would initiate the contact almost like you know, he 506 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 4: would get into that beast smoke kind of mentality, throw 507 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 4: a couple of skittles in and just like transformed himself 508 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 4: into a whole different type of a person. That's the 509 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 4: way that Damian Martinez runs. He runs angry, runs, physically 510 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: and violent. And then I think that he also is 511 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 4: a really nice fit in this wide zone system. And 512 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 4: you know the wide zone system. I keep mentioning this, 513 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: but it's a system that basically that allows the running 514 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 4: back a little bit more space to make his own decisions. 515 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: He's often is running kind of laterally and then he 516 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: is looking back to see if they're cut back lanes. 517 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: That he can exploit. Think back to the old Denver 518 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: Broncos with Terrell Davis and Mike Anderson and guys like that, 519 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: Guys that didn't have that lead four point four speed, 520 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: they still played fast because they had such great vision, 521 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: such great balance through contact. That is Damian Martinez. Now, 522 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 4: I love the fact that you mentioned the Oregon State 523 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 4: production because again, this is a player that played three 524 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 4: years in college football, two in Oregon State, went at Miami. 525 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: Everywhere he went, he was the bell cap, he. 526 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: Was usher, just and just powering through dudes. Know what 527 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean? 528 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 3: That UWA and like jumps out of me from two 529 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 3: years ago because I didn't you know, I didn't know 530 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: a lot about him. 531 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: And I was like, WHOA, who is this guy? 532 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: And so I see it kind of come full circle 533 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: and he's back in the Northwest with Seahawks. 534 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: It's very exciting. 535 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 4: It's funny too, because when I think of Oregon State football, 536 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 4: I think back and again, this may not be a 537 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 4: reference to Seahawks. Fans are going to appreciate his Stephen 538 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: Jackson was so good for the Rams, But at the 539 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 4: same time, that's who I think of as far as 540 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: great Oregon State backs. Damian Martinez reminds me a little 541 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: bit the way Stephen Jackson ran. So again we're talking 542 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: about some of the some of the best backs in 543 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: recent twenty years of NFL history. I thought that because 544 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 4: this running back class was deep, arguably the deepest positional group, 545 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: and we know that the Seahawks have typically drafted at 546 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 4: least one running back just because the attrition of the position, 547 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 4: that they might take one. But I thought, Okay, this 548 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 4: is going to be a guy that might be able 549 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 4: to be a complimentary type of a player. Damian Martinez 550 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 4: can be that. But if there were the unthinkable, you 551 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 4: had multiple injuries at that position, Damien Arantinez can be 552 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: that bellcal back if you needed to be so. 553 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: And then back to the offensive line again. Mason Richmond, who, 554 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 3: as he told us, got a surprise phone call. It 555 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 3: was actually Gray's abel that made the draft call from 556 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: the draft room because they able happened to get in 557 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: on a Saturday afternoon to meet coaches and kind of 558 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: get to it around the building. So fun phone call 559 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: for another Iowa linman. We've seen a lot of Iowa 560 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: alignmen come through the NFL. You know, he's a guy 561 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: Seahawks sounds like they're gonna start Matt tackle, but could 562 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 3: maybe move inside as well. 563 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: Just what kind of player are they getting in Mason Richmond? 564 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 4: To me, he is one of the safest players of 565 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 4: this draft class for the Seahawks because he is just 566 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: a proven commodity. As you said, there have been an 567 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 4: awful lot of really good Iowa offensive lineman. You know, 568 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 4: they have a head coach there, Kirk Ferentz, who is 569 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: a former NFL offensive line coach. He's the longest ten 570 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 4: yured coach in all of college football. I mean, he 571 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 4: is just the epitome of consistency and of all those 572 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 4: players that he has coached over all these years, Mason 573 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: Richmond is one of the very few that started five 574 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 4: years fifty two career starts in all of them at 575 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 4: the left tackle position for the Iowa Hawk guys. So again, 576 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 4: this is a program that is known for producing quality 577 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 4: offensive lineman, and the left tackle position of courses, I know, 578 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 4: as celebrated as any position up front. I love the 579 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 4: fact that Seale is going to allow him to prove 580 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: that he can't play at the tackle position, give him 581 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: the opportunity to do that first. There have been some 582 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: concerns about whether or not that he was athletic enough 583 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: or has the arm length to remain outside of tackle. 584 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: I think that when you've been as productive as you've 585 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 4: been at the college level for a program like Iowa, 586 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: then allow him that opportunity first, and then if it 587 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 4: doesn't work out. He's so smart, he's so physical, he's 588 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 4: so tough. It's one of the things that John Schneider 589 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: kind of acknowledged in the post draft press conference is 590 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: again this toughness that he was willing to play through pain. 591 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: Those are the type of attributes I think that suggest 592 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 4: that Mason Richmond is going to weigh outplay his selection 593 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 4: in the seventh round, and. 594 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 3: Then after getting Troy Horton, the Seahawks go back to 595 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: receiver to close out the draft. When you talked about Horton, 596 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: you mentioned special teams. I don't think I've ever seen 597 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: somebody get four blocked punts in one season like Ricky 598 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: White did on his way to Special Teams Player of 599 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: the Year honors in his conference. I mean that right 600 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 3: there jumps out at me. But obviously he also did 601 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: a lot as a receiver. Just tell us a little 602 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: bit about Ricky White. 603 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: The third you know, again, another one of my absolute 604 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: favorite players in this draft class, just because of the 605 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: fact that, as you mentioned with the special teams document 606 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: that the four block punts, those all came just this 607 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 4: past season. Yeah, so it's not like this. I mean 608 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 4: he led the country. Nobody else had more than two. Yeah, 609 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 4: so I mean he's literally doubling up for a un 610 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: LV team. Again, kind of we talked about with Kansas. 611 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 4: I mean, these are not those traditional blue blood kind 612 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: of college football powerhouse programs. The Seahawks got themselves some 613 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: players that helped put their teams on the college football landscape. 614 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: And so again with Ricky White the third, you're talking 615 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 4: about a guy that has special teams abiliting, who is 616 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 4: a physical blocker downfield, and then oh, by the way, 617 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: he's also a very effective deep ball passer as well. 618 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 4: He got eleven touchdowns this past season. So again, this 619 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: is a big play threat, a guy that has some 620 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 4: dynamic athletic ability, and he's highly competitive. I thought that 621 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: wide receiver was a position of concern for the Seahawks, 622 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: certainly on special teams. You want to have bodies guys 623 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 4: that are fast, are athletic, are tough, and in competitive 624 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: Ricky White checks all those boxes. 625 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: All right, we did it. 626 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: We got through all eleven draft picks. 627 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: Just again, really exciting class. 628 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 3: Any other big takeaways you get out of this as 629 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: you've gone over all eleven and these guys that you 630 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: you know, just kind of stands out. 631 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah to me. 632 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 4: One of the things that's exciting about this is that 633 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: there are a number of other NFL teams here that 634 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 4: got themselves into double digit draft selections. I don't know 635 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: there's any team that had both quantity and quality to 636 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 4: the level that the Seahawks just had. I've been covering 637 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: the NFL draft, as I mentioned before, for an awful 638 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 4: long time. I've watched all of John Schneider's selections over 639 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: the years, and I know this sounds crazy to say, 640 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: considering some of the historic draft classes that he has 641 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 4: helped bring to Seattle, But in my opinion, this might 642 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 4: just be the very best. 643 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: We're holding you to this Rob. 644 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 4: I'm just so excited about the dynamic talent they got, 645 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: especially in the top end. I think you can make 646 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 4: an argument and because you see flashes with the young 647 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 4: quarterback Jaylen Monroe, that our first round caliber, as we 648 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 4: talked about, you know, have the Miami tight end slash 649 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 4: wide receiver Elijah Royo not been coming off the injury, 650 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: he may have been a first round pick. Certainly, Nick 651 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: Emmon Morey and Gray's Abel were first round caliber. I 652 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 4: mean you're talking about, you know, four players that are 653 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 4: legitimate first round caliber flashes on tape, and just considering 654 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: the the experience of the offensive coaching staff being brought 655 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 4: to Seattle, I just think that this is a group 656 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: that has so much potential and now you have the 657 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 4: coaching staff as well to really coax that turn that 658 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 4: potential into production. 659 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: Well, Rob, I thank you for joining us. It sounds 660 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: to me like you're telling us we need to celebrate. 661 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: People can celebrate how they like, do so safely. But 662 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: if you need any help with that ideas, we can 663 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: toss it to first round pick grays Able with his 664 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 3: celebration tactics. 665 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 8: Man, I'm probably gonna start diving into these bush lights 666 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 8: and have the twelve hour rule. We get to celebrate 667 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 8: it for twelve hours when we get back. For so uh, 668 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 8: I got an unbelievable crew here, my head coach, my 669 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 8: offensive line coach, if they're all down here, and a 670 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 8: lot of friends and families so high alert for Pierce, 671 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 8: South Dakota. We're gonna we're gonna have some fun and 672 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 8: we're gonna enjoy this tonight. 673 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: We are not in Pierre, South Dakota, but hopefully people 674 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: can have a little fun and enjoy this draft. 675 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: Rob. Thank you again. Tell people where they can find 676 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: your your excellent work. 677 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 4: Well, definitely at Fox sports dot com and put it 678 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 4: out putting out some draft grades here in the next 679 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: couple of hours. And then if you also are are 680 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 4: interested in some besides the you know, the the Seahawks 681 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 4: podcast that you're listening to here, then I do some 682 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: work with Lockdown Seahawks podcast as well. 683 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: All right, thanks again, I appreciate thank you so much.