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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome inside final hour tonight to Jason Smith's Show

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Speaker 1: here we are. We got much more football coming up

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Speaker 1: throughout the rest of this hour. We have a big

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Speaker 1: appreciation moment for a head coach who was hold his

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Speaker 1: services were no longer required today. But we've said this

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Speaker 1: tonight after we watched the Dodgers, who clearly are gonna say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna keep these interesting all the way to the

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Speaker 1: end of the season. Right, we think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the NL West sewn up, No, no, no, up for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Tonight over the Diamondbacks in a game that could have

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Speaker 1: really just basically ended the Diamondback season, the Dodgers' bullpen

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Speaker 1: for Arizona. They stay alive in the wildcard race. The

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Speaker 1: Dodgers now lead the Padres by just two games in

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Speaker 1: the NL West. They've lost to in a row. Padres

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Speaker 1: It's the reason why the Dodgers can go home early,

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers may have figured out their rotation to playoffs. Okay,

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Speaker 1: The Dodger bullpen last year was terrific right from the

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Speaker 1: He knew, these are the guys I'm bringing in when

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Speaker 1: This is the great equalizer, and the Dodgers can go

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Speaker 1: Most managers say, hey, if we get four good innings, okay,

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Speaker 1: because we know we're gonna need our bullpen. We know

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Speaker 3: Spent all that money on the bullpen and added bonus,

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Speaker 1: Right, we've watched it game after games. Wow, he gave

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Speaker 3: Because it's about to get you know, we're getting into

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Speaker 1: And we've watched that night after night.

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Speaker 3: And they spent a lot of money on on bullpen

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Speaker 1: It's it's the biggest X in all of the playoffs. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the analytics say this. So there's your first big story

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Speaker 3: Where's that sage brush that Kyrie kept bringing into arenas?

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Speaker 1: Man? Oh, I could see like I shaking around your stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: No, I just banged my head against the wall until

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Speaker 1: This again, the Guardians had a fifteen and a half

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Speaker 1: Astros keep losing because they're in a bad way right now,

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Speaker 1: Remember it also coincides.

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Speaker 3: July twenty eighth was the day that Class A was

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Speaker 3: So get exercising. Those issues in the bullpen seem to

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Speaker 3: in charge here, I mean Sandy Brundela's record in four

429
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 3: years was one hundred and seven and fifty three and

430
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 3: a championship last year. All of a sudden, she can't coach.

431
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: Like a part of me digs the lunacy of it.

432
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 3: Hey, we had expectations. You knew what these standards were,

433
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 3: and you guys fell.

434
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Speaker 1: I mean, someone's gonna hire that, Like, someone's gonna hire

435
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: her right away, Like I guarantee you she's gonna be

436
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 1: the next time you got a Cogo teams coming in right, yep,

437
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: she's give me the next head coach Chicago Sky No

438
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: where nobody went to their exit. Yeah yeah, ye, hey,

439
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 1: Angel will get Angel rested to come back and go.

440
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, really, I guarante. I mean it's a it's

441
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy to think about that. You win

442
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: the title or you're not coming back as head Go

443
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: Wait what what? What? What? What kind of world does

444
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: that make sense? I don't know. People have been arguing

445
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: for years that you should only get paid at the

446
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: end of the season. How well do you do against

447
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: certain metrics? I'll tell you that's just that. Just do

448
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: not a bonus. No, no, no, you don't get a bonus

449
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: for making the playoffs. So what we get back to

450
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 1: the semis, we make the finals? No, no, win it all?

451
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: You mean when win the chances it can get to

452
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: keep your job. Yeah, yeah, that does. That doesn't sound great.

453
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: That sounds like a little bit too high a bar

454
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: to hold up there for someone.

455
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: Everybody else paid trip. Here's you know, a couple hundred

456
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,959
Speaker 3: grand the next couple of years. Here's a contract extension.

457
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 3: Don't wait in the title you're fired.

458
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: But speaking of losing your job, the big shocking story

459
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: today Mike Gundhy is out as Oklahoma State head coach.

460
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a big appreciation moment a minute for

461
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, the legendary moment that Mike Gundy brought us

462
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: seventeen years ago. Yesterday, Oklahoma State lost to Tulsa this week,

463
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: which really, you know, it's it's you can't really lose

464
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: to Tulsa, not even in college basketball. So he gets fired.

465
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: They start one and two, they had a bad year

466
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,479
Speaker 1: last year, three and nine, and they decide to move on. Okay,

467
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: Now I understand this. I understand that maybe Mike Gundy,

468
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: who has been there twenty years, Okay, I understand that

469
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: maybe this new age of college football, the nil era

470
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: transfer portal, not everybody is made for it, right, Not

471
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: everybody's made for that, And maybe this is what he's

472
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: struggling with. But I'm okay with if you have two

473
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: bad seasons like this, Okay, after twenty years, maybe you

474
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: need a new fresh voice, right, I get that, right,

475
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: you're looking for a fresh start and a way to

476
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: hand what college football is now in twenty twenty five,

477
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: which wasn't what it was from you know, two thousand

478
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: until twenty twenty one, right until we got out of COVID, Right,

479
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: So I get that. But man, unless I hear about

480
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: something really bad behind the scenes, like Oklahoma State just

481
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: did him wrong. Man, I mean, this is not a

482
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: guy that was hired five years ago, that showed up,

483
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: went to a bowl a couple of years, god three

484
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: years to get it going and didn't. This guy brought

485
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: the program to a really high, sometimes elite level. And

486
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: again he was there for twenty years. Man, Like they

487
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: played there, like you talk about in you'd say Oklahoma

488
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: State football, two names come up, Barry Sanders, Mike Gundy.

489
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: These are the name that's it. Nobody else. Nobody else

490
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: comes up. Pat Jones doesn't come up, Rusty Hilger doesn't

491
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: come up. No, No, Derman Thomas doesn't come up. It's

492
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders and Mike Gundy. Right, And this guy deserved

493
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: better than to coach this past weekend, come out and

494
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: do his pres conference for this week where he said, yeah,

495
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: I have a big I plan on being here. He

496
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: talked about his contract, hasn't been told anything. I'm coaching

497
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: this week and then you get fired the next day,

498
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: like you need to do it better for your guy

499
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: that's been here, that has really given your program, Oklahoma

500
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: State football relevance for two decades, and it's you could say, hey,

501
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: this is Mike Gundy's last year, right, and we say

502
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: goodbye to him. It's already a lost year. You're going

503
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: to an interim head coach anyway, who's on staff already.

504
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: What kind of change is that really gonna be. You

505
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: can announce this is his last year, or you could

506
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: say I'm retiring, I'm resigning, I have one more game

507
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: this week? Is it for me? And you can send

508
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: him out on a high note and appreciate that the

509
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: guy has done what he's done for you for twenty

510
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: some odd years. Was it always smooth, No, it wasn't

511
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: always smooth. Was it always something that people liked?

512
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 6: No?

513
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: But bottom line is the guy won a lot of games,

514
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: he sent a lot of guys to the NFL, His

515
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: players liked him. He gave your school relevance when it's

516
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: really tough to buy relevant for Oklahoma State now, and

517
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: this is how he gets done. No, I'm not down

518
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: with that, man. I think I think this is a

519
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: bad I got to hear something really bad happen behind

520
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: closed doors before I say okay, because right now it

521
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: seems like he was just done dirty and done wrong.

522
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: Well to hear some people tell it. Commenters, you can

523
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 3: go find him on the interwebs. They were a little

524
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: gleeful at his dismissal, kind of you know, sour grapes

525
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: kind of thing going on. But for Gundy, I mean,

526
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: what eight double digit win seasons and other two to

527
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: nine win seasons one hundred and seventy and ninety that

528
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 3: equates to a sixty five percent plus winning percentage through

529
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: the year.

530
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: Obviously, twenty twenty four was a mess, the three.

531
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Speaker 3: And nine, going zero to nine in conference, and then

532
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: that obliteration at Oregon. And this is where, you know,

533
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: while we celebrate, Look, we love the characters of the game.

534
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: College football has given us so many through the years

535
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 3: with great quips, quotes, and personalities, and Gandhy certainly among them.

536
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 3: But his comments related to Oregon and their forty million

537
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: dollar roster kind of seemed.

538
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: To me a bit thumbing your nose at your boosters.

539
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: Right, all right, we're not we're not equipped to go

540
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 3: play a game like this because we don't have the

541
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: revenue and we don't have the buy in, is how

542
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 3: I read it. You know, he said he was misinterpreted

543
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: that it was a compliment to what Oregon's built. But

544
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: to me, I think if you were in and around

545
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: that program and you've helped juice things for twenty years

546
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 3: for him and improved facilities or whatever else, you probably

547
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: were a little pissed at those comments. And then certainly

548
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: the way they went out and got thumped in this game,

549
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: by the way Oregon then played money talks by acd

550
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: S in the post game Canda.

551
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Look, look, I'm not saying, hey, getting rid of my

552
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: Gundy wasn't something that didn't need to happen, because yeah,

553
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: something like that, I get where where the where the

554
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: alumni is upset, But I think the alumni was pretty

555
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: happy that he went to a Bowl game eighteen years

556
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: of show that he was over five hundred and eighteen

557
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: years in a row. Okay, I think the guy has

558
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: earned the right just to say one thing, Hey, if

559
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: they're not coming up with money, I don't think he's

560
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: lying about that. You may not get by Okay, you

561
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: can still send the guy. Understand that what he did

562
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: for this bread and you want to be seen as

563
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: a school that, hey, we're going to be loyal to

564
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: guys that do something like this for two decades. We

565
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: don't want to say, hey, all of a sudden, we

566
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: don't like what you said. You're out the door, like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

567
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: what are you just saying if you already had cracks

568
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: in the armor. And certainly after a really rough twenty

569
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: twenty four season and whatever meetings you're having, whatever glad

570
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: handing right the rubber chicken banquet circuit and conversations you're

571
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: having about recruiting and whatever, that perhaps as an institution

572
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: you realize maybe you're falling that much further behind. Those

573
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: comments didn't help on this situation. And then you lose

574
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: to Tulsa and you decide, all right, that's it. Before

575
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: and we know what happens now, guys can can transfer out.

576
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: People that were committed may have decided all right, if

577
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: he's not there, that perhaps this place isn't for them. So,

578
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of fallout from this, but

579
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: to happen at the end of September, I mean, we're

580
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: seeing way too many coaches by the end of September

581
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: just cutting bait very interesting times now. No appreciation moment

582
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: for the career of Mike Gundy would be complete without

583
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: celebrating something that was seventeen years to the day a

584
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: day ago. Maybe that's why they didn't fire him yesterday. Well,

585
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: we can't fire him on the anniversary of it. It

586
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: was seventeen years ago today. Mike Gundy decided he did

587
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: not like some of the questions that his players were

588
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: getting from the press, and he went on a very

589
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: famous rant, the I'm a man, I'm forty. The rant

590
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: turned seventeen yesterday. So to appreciate Mike Gundy one more time,

591
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: here it is. He's a man, he was forty.

592
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 6: That's why I don't read the newspaper because it's garbage.

593
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: And the editor that let it come out is garbage.

594
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 6: Attacking an amateur athlete for doing everything right. And then

595
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 6: you want to write articles about guys that don't do

596
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 6: things right and downgrade and the ones that do make place.

597
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

598
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: Where are we at in society today? Come after me.

599
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 6: I'm a man, I'm forty, I'm not a kid.

600
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: Write something about.

601
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: Me or our coaches. And I give Steve to say,

602
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: you're a lot of credit because you know, understanding how

603
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: dated this was seventeen years ago, mentioning newspapers and amateur athletes,

604
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: neither of which exists anymore. So we're done. We don't

605
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: have either of them anymore. They're all gone. They're all gone,

606
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: but all gone. You know. The funny thing about this

607
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: is that this has become one of the most famous

608
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: quotes of all time in sports history, right. And I

609
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: remember when I was This is when I was at

610
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: ESPN and I was filling in during the day, like

611
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: for Dan Patrick or Colin or somebody, I forget what

612
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: it was. And I was filling in during the day

613
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: and Mike Gundy was coming on the show. And it

614
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: was about a month after this. I'm a man, I'm forty,

615
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: so I'm talking with my producer before we go on.

616
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: I go, all right, well, I gotta ask him about it.

617
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: How do you think he's gonna go? Do we know

618
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: anything how he's been dealing with this? And my proof's like, no,

619
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: we don't, but yeah, you gotta ask him. I said,

620
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: I'll just find a way to bring it up and

621
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: let him answer iever he wants to, but I want

622
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: him to have a good experience with this. I don't

623
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: want to, you know, make fun of him with it, obviously,

624
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: because this is a weird thing. All of a sudden,

625
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: you get man, I'm a man, I'm forty. So I said,

626
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna bring it up and just and just

627
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: see how he reacts. I was confident myself in the moment.

628
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: I was going to ask the question the right way,

629
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: fully expecting him to just give me a stock answer

630
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: moving on from that, you know, X Y Z Okay,

631
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: But I gotta ask again. This is a month after

632
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: so this is this is before it's really become the

633
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: huge pop culture moment that is has since become in

634
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: the last uh, you know, one and a half decades.

635
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: So I asked him, and I was happy that I

636
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: phrase the question. I said, So, Mike, now it's been

637
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: a month since you told everybody you were man and

638
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: you were forty. What's the last month been like for you? Right,

639
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, let me see what he says, and

640
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I could tell right away that

641
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Speaker 1: he was giving me a legit and real answer. He said,

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Speaker 1: I'll never think, he said, Jason, I can't tell you

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Speaker 1: the how positive this has been for me and the

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Speaker 1: program where recruits want to talk to our coaches now,

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Speaker 1: and they want to talk to our coaches about this.

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Speaker 1: They want to talk to me about this. It's brought

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Speaker 1: attention to the school. It brought attention to this situation.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you the positive this has turned out

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Speaker 1: to be. And I walked away from this not knowing

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Speaker 1: what was going to be, and it turned out to

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Speaker 1: be something that I couldn't have planned out. I mean, really,

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Speaker 1: this is this is just something that I can't get

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Speaker 1: over how the reaction has been to this, and we

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Speaker 1: we can continue to talk to recruits about it, and

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Speaker 1: players asked me about it all the time, and and

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Speaker 1: it's that's how it's been. And I could tell the

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Speaker 1: way he was giving me the answer. He wasn't tell

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Speaker 1: me a story like this was. I really, I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you how positive this has been for us, like that,

660
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Speaker 1: like this is something that I didn't foresee after this happened,

661
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Speaker 1: and it turned out to be something great for us.

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Speaker 1: And look you look at his wins the next few

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Speaker 1: years after this happened eleven, twelve, eight, ten, seven, ten, ten, ten,

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Speaker 1: So pretty sure his recruiting was good. Everybody liked the school,

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Speaker 1: and this turned out to be pretty good for him.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty positive with that kind of reaction from him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of it goes back to

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Speaker 3: what have we always talked about, Like we just went

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Speaker 3: through this with my daughter a bit with her soccer program,

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Speaker 3: and you're talking to coaches like you want to know

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Speaker 3: that the coach is looking out for their best interests

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Speaker 3: both as a player and academically and.

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Speaker 1: All of that stuff. Now, obviously there's the.

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Speaker 3: Extra financial stuff that comes into it, but back then,

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Speaker 3: how many families you know, mom's, dad's aunts, uncle's grandma, grandpa,

676
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Speaker 3: whoever's in charge of helping make the decision, was like,

677
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Speaker 3: this kid's gonna get looked dowt after properly by this

678
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Speaker 3: guy and his staff. Right after a rant like that,

679
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Speaker 3: I mean, he basically challenged everybody there on site to

680
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Speaker 3: go after his program, and all they did was win

681
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Speaker 3: thereafter so clearly and ended up being the recruiting tool

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Speaker 3: of recruiting tools, even if it lives on in infamy

683
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Speaker 3: for so many other punchlines.

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Speaker 1: Time out to find out what's trending in the wide

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Speaker 1: world of sports. For Man has been called the Mike

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Speaker 1: Gundy of Fox Sports Radio. He was once forty as well.

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Speaker 1: It's Steve the Sega. Oh, I thought you were going

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Speaker 1: to say you had a mullet. We do have that income.

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Speaker 7: And just for the record, as Oklahoma State fired the

690
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Speaker 7: football coach Mike Gundy, he's now owed fifteen million dollars.

691
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Speaker 7: His team's lost eleven straight against FBS opponents. So Oklahoma

692
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Speaker 7: Sooner star quarterback John Mattier will have surgery for a

693
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Speaker 7: broken hand. He could miss a month that would include

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Speaker 7: the game against Texas in October. New York Giants rookie

695
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Speaker 7: quarterback Jackson Dart will start this week against the Chargers

696
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Speaker 7: instead of veteran Russell Wilson. The Giants sign kicker Young

697
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Speaker 7: way Kud their practice squad. Graham Cano has a groin injury.

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Speaker 7: Tampa Bay wide receiver Mike Evans will reportedly miss three

699
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Speaker 7: to four weeks with a strain hamstring. Washington wide out

700
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Speaker 7: Terry McLaurin is seeking other medical opinions on his injured quad.

701
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Speaker 7: The Texans cut safety CJ. Gardner Johnson. Titans coach Brian

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Speaker 7: Callahan gave up his play calling duties on offense. The

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Speaker 7: New York Liberty fired coach Sandy Brondela, who won the

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Speaker 7: WNBA title a year ago. They had just lost in

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Speaker 7: the first round as the five seed. Technically, the Liberty

706
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Speaker 7: declined to pick up her contract option. Both WNBA semifinals

707
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Speaker 7: are even at a game apiece. In best of five's

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Speaker 7: Las Vegas dominated Indiana. Phoenix came from twenty points down

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Speaker 7: mid third quarter to win in overtime at Minnesota. And

710
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Speaker 7: then there's Major League Baseball. The Dodger bullpen since the

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Speaker 7: All Star Break has blown twelve saves, tied for the

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Speaker 7: most in the Majors. Blue one tonight at Arizona, Dbacks

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Speaker 7: with two in the bottom of the ninth, beat LA

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Speaker 7: five to four, ruining a great start from Shoheo Tanio

715
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Speaker 7: at six scoreless innings with eight s breakouts, no walks.

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Speaker 7: The bullpen immediately allowed three runs in the seventh after

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Speaker 7: he left Tanner. Scott takes the loss for LA, his

718
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Speaker 7: tenth blown save of the year, which leads the majors.

719
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Speaker 7: His VRRA since the All Star Break is over eight.

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Speaker 7: Diamondbacks still one game out of the last NL wildcard

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Speaker 7: behind the Mets, who won nine to seven at the Cubs.

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Speaker 7: Cubs have lost five in a row. Mets are now

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Speaker 7: leading the Reds by a game for the final NL

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Speaker 7: wildcard spot. Cincinnati's five game win streak is over. Red's

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Speaker 7: lost at home four to two to Pittsburgh. Saint Louis

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Speaker 7: with two in the ninth, took the late game nine

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Speaker 7: eight at San Francisco. Giants have lost nine of eleven.

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Speaker 7: The Padres in the NL West just a game and

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Speaker 7: a half behind the Dodgers. San Diego hit three homers

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Speaker 7: and shut out Milwaukee seven nothing. Seattle clinched a playoff

731
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Speaker 7: Berth with its fifth straight win, three run double bottom

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Speaker 7: of the eighth edge Colorado four to three, and the

733
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Speaker 7: Mariners in the AL West now four games over Houston,

734
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Speaker 7: which lost five to one at the A's. The Yankees

735
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Speaker 7: clinched a playoff Berth, getting two runs bottom of the

736
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Speaker 7: ninth to beat the White Sox three to two, and

737
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Speaker 7: in the AL East, the Yankees just a game back

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Speaker 7: of the Blue Jays, who lost at home for to

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Speaker 7: one to Boston. And then there's Cleveland beating Detroit five

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Speaker 7: to two. Seven straight losses for the Tigers, they're tied

741
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Speaker 7: for first with the Guardians. Cleveland now owns the tiebreaker

742
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Speaker 7: over Detroit and Tonight Mark the first time in the

743
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Speaker 7: history of Major League Baseball that all in the same inning.

744
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Speaker 7: You had a Cy Young winner with a wild pitch,

745
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Speaker 7: a balk, and an air. His heir was Key and

746
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Speaker 7: my goodness, have they gone in the tank. They've lost

747
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Speaker 7: ten of eleven. Cleveland, a team that was down fifteen

748
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Speaker 7: and a half games in the standings in early July,

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Speaker 7: is tied for first regular season end Sunday back to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Steve though The Jason Smith Show with My

751
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: best friend Mike Carmen. Again, Tiger fans, just don't watch

752
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: the games, Just wait till the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, one NFL team after this week has

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00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: to go out and trade for a quarterback. Wait till

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Speaker 1: I tell you who it is. That's next Cleven, It

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Speaker 1: may be Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmons

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Speaker 1: crown is yours. So Jackson Dart taking over New York

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. We told you he's gonna wind up getting traded.

768
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: He's not gonna finish with the Giants. That's fun. But

769
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Speaker 1: how about this? Okay, after week three in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the team who needs to trade for a quarterback and

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Speaker 1: Alex ty shirt. I know you didn't think you were right,

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Speaker 1: but when you played your favorite up the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, right. We spend so much time

774
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Speaker 1: about Shador and Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett when he

775
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: was at oh no, no no, but he the first

776
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Speaker 1: that place so he could play. I want to go

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Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. I know his dad say that. You know

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00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: what the hell's wrong with you? Dude? I know what

779
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Speaker 1: do you want from me? Ideah, you're better than Look,

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Speaker 1: the Browns defense is lights out. This is a terrific defense.

781
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Speaker 1: You've seen. They made Joe Burrow look bad week one,

782
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Speaker 1: they made Jordan Love look bad week three, and week

783
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Speaker 1: two wasn't as bad as you would expect it to

784
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Speaker 1: be team forty two seventeen. They did a lot to themselves.

785
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Speaker 1: But this defense is really good. This AFC North is

786
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Speaker 1: not really good. You got no Burrow for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the season. A Steelers team that's just okay, and

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Speaker 1: a Ravens team that their defense is absolutely abysmal. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're getting nothing from Joe Flacco right. His quarterback rating

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Speaker 1: so far this year is sixty five. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: man that I know that's in the past that doesn't

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Speaker 1: pass sixty five is not passing like his quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: seventy five, sixty five and fifty five. They're not scoring

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Speaker 1: any points even uh just an just a not even

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Speaker 1: just a little bit below average quarterback play. And they're

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Speaker 1: probably two and one and they're, hey, we're feeling good.

797
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Speaker 1: We won Week one, we won would have one week

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Speaker 1: three and we're feeling great. Well, this set them up

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Speaker 1: for week one kicks. I mean, but you need you

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Speaker 1: need to be able to put points on the board, right.

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00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: You can't just come in every week and say sixteen

802
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: points are gonna get it done. You can't. You need

803
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Speaker 1: to take it. You need to take a risk at quarterback.

804
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: You gotta go get somebody, and two guys you can

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Speaker 1: go get that are eminently available, Anthony Richardson and Spencer Rattler.

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00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Not guys that suddenly all're gonna take you over the top,

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Speaker 1: but these are two players that are young with a

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Speaker 1: lot of talent that maybe a change of scenery is

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Speaker 1: gonna help them. Clearly they can make plays with the

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Speaker 1: legs and get outside the pocket, and you might need that.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski's a great offensive coach. They're both available, right

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Speaker 1: the Colts with Daniel Jones, Okay, we're in on Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: We don't want this to be any messy. Anymore MESSI

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Speaker 1: you can go get Anthony Richardson. The Saints are gonna

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Speaker 1: have to go to Tyler Shuck at some point. Spencer

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00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: Rattler again, he's okay, but you know they got to

817
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Speaker 1: go to Tyler Shuck before they take Arch Manning, you know,

818
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: next year in the draft. So these are teams where

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Speaker 1: guys are available. Now you can't just go get a

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00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: backup quarterback somewhere because they're not always available. But these

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Speaker 1: are a couple of guys you can go get and

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Speaker 1: your team will be better off, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: You'll be in the thick of the race in the

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Speaker 1: AFC North, Be bold, do something fun, help the fans,

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Speaker 1: help the team, be good. Do something now, bring in

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Speaker 1: the moon ball. Go get Russ.

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Speaker 3: He'll cost you about as much as these other two guys.

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Speaker 3: And basically you say it is either works or we're

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Speaker 3: looking for I mean, we're gonna be looking for another

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Speaker 3: quarterback anyway if you're not convinced that Gabriel or Sanders

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Speaker 3: is ready to be the guy. Because that's the other

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Speaker 3: thing is it's an indictment on your program if you're

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Speaker 3: just saying, after three weeks, how to hell with it,

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Speaker 3: let's go outside the building. When you brought all those

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Speaker 3: guys in, all right, you trade it off Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 3: and then you still have these guys remaining.

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Speaker 1: Naw, we don't like them. Go get another guy. Forget

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Speaker 1: about Sanders, Go get some and you'll wind up winning

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Speaker 1: some games and staying in it. Man, Go get it,

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Speaker 1: go do it. Exit up about a Fresca exit swollen

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Speaker 1: dome for Mike im Jason coming up next, my buddy

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Speaker 1: Ben Maltow. You are listening to Fox Sports Radio. Mets Yo,

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Speaker 1: Mets Stop