1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Week four in college football is in the books. It 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: was awesome, and everybody's talking about Pack twelve after dark, 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: talking about the conference getting respect five teams ranked in 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: between eleven and nineteen, and the eight people we're gonna 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: get into the power rankings, and we're gonna rate the weekend. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Who still has a chance at the playoffs and what 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: the hell is going on with Pack twelve referees, And 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: of course we're gonna break down all the games from 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: this week. I'm George Raiser with Ralph Ampston and this 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: is the Pack twelve apostles. Ralph, I couldnt be any 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: more excited. I was watching the games this weekend. This 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: was absolutely awesome. I destroyed you this week in picks. 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean you picked you taw to war, you picked No, 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't take you. Don't put that on me. 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: I messed up a lot this weekend. But don't put 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: utah on me. Oh I thought you did pick them. 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, you picked old Mr beat Cow and you 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: picked Arizona State to beat Colorado. And now you're sitting 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: there with ag on your face. Buddy, you're gonna listen 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: to me. You are going to listen to me. I 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: maybe I didn't know that Ralphie was a girl, but 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: guess what, I can pick these dog on games. First 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: of all, you guys, thank you guys for listening to 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve Apostles podcast. At this point, it appears 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: it is the most successful podcast in all of Pack 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: twelve country. We appreciate your time. Please make sure that 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: you share the feed. 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All of that, and this episode 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: makes sure you're paying attention. We are. We are having 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: a giveaway this episode. You guys have to make sure 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: you did you check the at Pack twelve Apostles Twitter 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: account for all the details and all of that. Appreciated 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: but now it is time to get into it. Ralph, 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: how would you rate the weekend for the PAC twelve. 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean that after last night's games, I think that 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve as a conference dominated, uh the national 46 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: narrative and attention. CAL went out into SEC country they 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: gotta win. Washington U, c l A was completely bonkers, Uh, 48 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Colorado A s U went down to the wire. Uh. 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: The Friday night game, as much as I hate Friday 50 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: night games, UM, was enough to keep people talking. Uh 51 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: you know, and so I think that this was just 52 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: as far as the conference goes. If there's no such 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: thing as uh as you know, as bad press. Um, 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: though there was plenty of press, some good, some bad. 55 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: But I would say that the Pact twelve as a 56 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: conference dominated the national narrative uh this weekend. I totally 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: would agree with that the conference did well in the 58 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: non conference games, particularly and the Cow and oh Miss game, 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: where ye of little faith I have been standing on. 60 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I've been on an island of one me, well, island 61 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: of two. Me and John Wilner are the only people 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: who believe in Cow. I've said it as I mean, 63 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: Chase Garber's played out of his mind. Uh, and there 64 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: was so much to talk about, especially that obviously the 65 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: U c l A. Washington State game dominated Twitter all 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: night last night. I was texting people, calling people turn 67 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: on the game. They were like, it's a blow. I 68 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: was like, no, it's not. And I wish that game 69 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: had been on during like normal business hours because if 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: so many people on the East coast Midwest who were 71 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: sleep at two am when it finished their time, they 72 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to see one of the epic 73 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: shootouts and comebacks in college football this year. For sure, 74 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: if you're Anthony Gordon, how do you feel this morning? 75 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he got his it were all obviousts for 76 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: m self interest, um, but they lost and he turned 77 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: the ball over three times. So how do you feel 78 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: if you're Anthony Gordon this morning? You feel bad because 79 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: you had three turnovers yourself. You threw two picks to 80 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: neither of them was good, and you fumbled the football 81 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: at the very end of the game when you did 82 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: have a chance to win. So even though you throw 83 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: nine touchdowns, you still look at all the plays that 84 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: you left on the field. I mean, and it just 85 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: sucks to break records and then lose. That's terrible, But Ralph, 86 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: do you think so? There have been conversations ordinarily, win 87 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: a Pack twelve team loses and there's no undefeated Pack 88 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: twelve teams left, people say, oh, the Pack twelves out 89 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: of the playoff conversation that cannot happen. And but even 90 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: though Utah was the highest rank Pack twelve team, people 91 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: had Oregon and Washington still as the favorites to make 92 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs out of the conference. And it seems like 93 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: the odds are only going up for Oregon and for 94 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: Washington to make the playoffs because the conference is getting 95 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: that respect. I don't know, I have playoffs. I'm not 96 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: sure about. I'm not sure about any playoffs. I think 97 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: they're just all trying to win their games. Like I don't. 98 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about playoffs right now. I mean, 99 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve is in the proces this of doing 100 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: what it always does, you know, snake eating its tail. Um. 101 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: If someone goes eleven and one and wins the Pack 102 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: twelve championship this season, and I think it's a legitimate possibility. Um, 103 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: But right now we're four weeks into the season without 104 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: a single Pack twelve team in the top ten. The 105 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: odds are not in our favor, uh for getting somebody 106 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: in even if you do have those teams, because that 107 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: the odds are that the teams that are already in 108 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: those places are probably gonna be equally successful. Um WHOA 109 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: well see see I would actually debate that only because 110 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: you have L. S U and Alabama to have to 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: play each other, who are in so in the top ten. 112 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: There are four SEC teams right now. You have Auburn, L. 113 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: S U, and Alabama who all have to play each other. 114 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: So that's two losses coming out of there for sure. 115 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: Because there's three football games, two losses have to come 116 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: out of there for so somebody's gonna end up with 117 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: two losses. And you have Georgia, who's likely to win 118 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: the East in the SEC, has to play somebody too. 119 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: And and if you have the Pack twelve do anything 120 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: to help itself. That means USC playing Notre Dame, Stanford 121 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: playing Notre Dame. If they can get either one of 122 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: those games, Notre Dame's out of there, so and out 123 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: of the and out of L s U, Alabama and Auburn. 124 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: Auburn is the team they haven't had any offense going 125 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: since the Oregon game. Pol Nicks has not been great, 126 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: but they've been winning football games. And then out of 127 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: Ohio State and Wisconsin who are in the top ten, 128 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: one of them has gotta go. One of them has 129 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: gotta gotta go. In the same thing with Texas and Oklahoma, 130 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: they both can't stay in front of a uh and 131 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: eleven and a twelve and one pack twelve champion. So 132 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: I think the Pac twelve actually, if if it finishes 133 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: with a twelve and one champion, it's got a legit 134 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: shot of getting into playoffs, particularly if it's Oregon or Washington. 135 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh And I forgot calls they'll undefeated. They've crept up 136 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: to number fourteen in Napole ahead of Washington as they 137 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 1: should be. Ralph, Yeah, we'll find out if I feel 138 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: the same way when it comes to give our our 139 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: power rankings. But it's weird because if if that's what 140 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: you want, then it gives you almost a rooting interest. 141 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: So like when cal and Arizona State go head to 142 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: head on Friday, then you're rooting for callown because you're 143 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: you only want the teams that have a shot at 144 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: going all the way to to be the ones that 145 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: are that are winning. And so that's why I don't 146 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: like to think too much, but I think it all 147 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: takes care of itself. Well, then the problem is that 148 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: it takes care of itself, and that we have a 149 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: conference commissioner that doesn't seem to want to do anything 150 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, but but but look at the schedule. 151 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: Look at how bad this is. So you have this 152 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: is or I have such problems with the PAC tweal 153 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: schedule because they just make a schedule instead of crafting 154 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: a schedule, instead of giving its teams the optimal chance 155 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: to be good and to showcase their put their best 156 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: foot forward. So you have cal who was beat up 157 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: at linebacker when they went down at two Old Miss 158 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: played well, played well enough to win. They had to 159 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: travel multiple time zones, play a nine am game, fly 160 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: all the way back across the country, and now this 161 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: week you want them to play a Friday night game. 162 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean with withing, Yeah, it's I'm like you. The 163 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: conference schedules for parody like it schedules for the teams 164 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: to lose games, and it makes no sense to me. 165 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: And then you have Larry Scott saying that the playoff 166 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: doesn't need to expand that the conference just needs to 167 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: get better and I'm sitting here scratching my my head, like, wait, 168 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: so you don't think it's a good idea that there 169 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: will be power five Power five conferences and every conference 170 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: champion get an automatic bed, and knowing how the nine 171 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: game schedules are by are are detrimental to making the 172 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: playoffs compared to the SEC with eight conference games and 173 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: playing terrible non conference schedules and the A C C 174 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: who can do the same thing. And it makes no 175 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: sense to me, Ralph, like I I can't. I don't 176 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: understand Larry Scott's logic, and sometimes you have faulty logics. 177 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: So maybe you can explain this to me. Uh, here's 178 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: here's how I'm looking at it. You ever do that 179 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: thing where you got like assembling or cousin or whatever, 180 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: you take their own hands and you start slapping them 181 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: in the face. Said, quit hit yourself. Quite hit yourself. 182 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: That's like when Larry Scott talks about a packwell of 183 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: needing to get better, the pact fels like what our 184 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: deficiencies are? Not our deficiencies. You're the one doing this 185 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: to us, Like we can't get better with you standing 186 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: in the way making us worse, punching us in the 187 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: face with our own hands. Nobody can watch these games. 188 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Everybody in California and Arizona and Washington that is worth 189 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: recruiting wants to leave to go to places where things 190 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: are more prominent. You're getting run and wrecked by Mountain 191 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: West teams. The schedule is absolutely all over the place. 192 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: Nobody can develop any sort of routine whatsoever. And the 193 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: solution is proposed that a supposedly power five conference gets 194 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: the ability to put its champion in a playoff, and 195 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: he says, Nah, we just need to get it. How 196 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: how are we going to get better as a conference 197 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: with all of the impediments that he has helped put 198 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: and keep in place. I just every single time he 199 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: opens his mouth, he is. It's Larry Michael Scott is 200 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,119 Speaker 1: who he is, because every single time he opens his mouth, exactly, 201 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: I got the I got the Jim Halpert look on 202 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: my face, looking around to see if there's a camera 203 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: in the room. Like, No, you you are the Pack 204 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: twelve conference commissioner. You take absolutely every opportunity that the 205 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: n C Double A would even think about giving you 206 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: to make more money, to be put in a position 207 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: of prominence. You work for the freaking conference, not the 208 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: other way around. Like, thanks for the advice, Larry, but 209 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: that's not what this conference needs. This conference needs somebody 210 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: to champion the Conference of Champions. I I don't understand. 211 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean that statement kind of summed up everything that's 212 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: been going on. He's it's the give it to Mikey. 213 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: He'll eat anything. We'll take Friday night games, will take 214 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: the latest game possible when people on the East Coast 215 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: can't can't see, We'll take whatever it is that you 216 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: want to give. Oh. And then when we actually are 217 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: can sidering doing something positive for you with the with 218 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: putting five Power five champions in the playoffs, You're like, nah, nah, 219 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: we don't we do. We don't want that. We want 220 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: to struggle. It's like it's like he wants the conference 221 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: to be perpetual overcomers, and it's almost like he doesn't 222 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: realize what the metrics of success are because you can 223 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: try to champion the fact that the Conference of Champions 224 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: wins more championships and every other conference, however, revenue generating 225 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: sports are at the end of the day, are the 226 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: only thing that people care about, are the only thing 227 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: that really moves the needle. Yes, it's cool. Like there 228 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: are three things, well four things that really matter that 229 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: people ever see, right they see obviously football number one, 230 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: which the conference is falling behind it because they because 231 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: they took all this money. They just took all the 232 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: money that ESPN threw at him and was like, okay, cool, 233 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: we'll we'll take We'll take this, ha ha two billion 234 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: dollar deal. We're we're the champs. But you really got Swindows. 235 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: And then you got basketball, which is good. God, if 236 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: it weren't for Oregon in basketball right right now, the 237 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: conference would have nothing. The conference would have nothing if 238 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: it weren't for Oregon doing good job in basketball in 239 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: the tournament. And then and then you have women's basketball, 240 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: which is where it was. The conference is doing really well. 241 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: Oregon is doing really well, and that as well, so 242 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: we're Arizona State, Oregon State. And then the last thing 243 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: that actually matters that people watch on television, it's softball, 244 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: and the conference does does well in softball u c 245 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: l A one. So, but in the two major things, 246 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: you're losing. And he's trying to sell us the fact 247 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: that it's a win. And I don't understand, Ralph, I 248 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: don't I just the the idea that he would just say, 249 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: just get better, like, man, that's finished this. Yeah, I 250 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: don't know. It's like the whole Al Davis like just 251 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: win baby, Like cool, are you gonna tell us the plan? 252 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: Because you can't just win baby, you can't do Oh, 253 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: I didn't think of that, Larry, get better and nobody 254 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: ever said it that way. Hey guys, maybe we should 255 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: just get better? Anybody, uh, anybody ever thought of this before? 256 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: Get better? You're a genius, Like, come on, of course 257 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: everybody's trying to win these games. And then also it's 258 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: saying get better with less resources than everybody else, to 259 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: get better with with less TV time than everybody else. 260 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: This is why we said in the beginning of this 261 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: year that this was the most important year for the 262 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: PAC twelve conference, the most important year for the conference. 263 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you a little story, can I Can 264 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: I tell you a little story about just how asinine 265 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: the whole PACK twelve viewing experience has been recently. Just 266 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: a little story, some microcosm of what's been going on. 267 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: I've had the PAC twelve network on Sling for two years. 268 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: For two years, I've had it. I have the package 269 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: that has a Pact twelve network. The only reason I 270 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: have Sling and so I can watch one channel. That's it. 271 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: That's the only reason that I have it. At the 272 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: beginning of this year, PAC twelve network gave away two 273 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: free preview weeks for people who had Sling, had maybe 274 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: never watched the Pack twelve network before, and wanted to 275 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: buy a package or an upgrade that had the PAC 276 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: twelve network. And so I noticed that it said like 277 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: that it was free every time that I would turn 278 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: it on and said, you know that it was free. 279 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: And going into week three, I call my wife because 280 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm out covering a game and I say, hey, I 281 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: messed up. Can you go in and make sure that 282 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: these games are recorded so that I can watch them 283 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: so that I know what I'm talking about when I 284 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: go head to head with George Rice Stir And she said, 285 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: you don't have the PAC twelve network. She told me 286 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: I didn't have the Pact twel network, And I was like, 287 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Pact twelve network is the only thing that I have, Like, 288 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: that's the only thing that I ever even use my 289 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: office television for is this one channel? What do you 290 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: mean I don't have it? And she's like, I've searched 291 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: for it, you don't have it, it's not on here. 292 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: And then so now here, I am thinking, like my 293 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: genius wife, and I'm not being sarcastic. This is one 294 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: of those brilliant women that I've ever met, like, doesn't 295 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: know how to work at television remote. So I start 296 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: getting condescending, right, like, of course it's on there? Did 297 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: you did you put a k in Pact twelve? Like 298 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: what are you doing right? Which, oh, man, not a 299 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: good choice by me, but so like, and she's getting frustrated. 300 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm getting frustrated. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, 301 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: just give me a minute, and I check my email 302 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: and I have an email from from I think it 303 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: was from Sling, and it said, we hope you've enjoyed 304 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: your free um uh trial of the PAC twelve network, 305 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: which has ended. If you want to keep Pack twelve network, 306 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: you need to pay ten dollars a months for the 307 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: Sports Extra upgrade. So I had to pay. I had 308 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: to buy a package to keep the channel that I've 309 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: always had. And it's been a busy football season, so 310 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: I haven't even had time to sit down and figure 311 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: out why all of a sudden, Sling is ten more 312 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: dollars a month for me? And why I missed a 313 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: whole week of recording games when I've just only ever 314 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: had Sling to have the Pack twelve network. So it's 315 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: already hard enough to watch Pack twelve games and now 316 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: I get kicked off of the one channel that I need, 317 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: and I'm just it was maddening, and I was like, 318 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: this is everybody's viewing experience for trying to find a 319 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: bar with the Pack twelve network. Holy hell, Like it's 320 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: been a mess for everyone exactly exactly it's gonna be 321 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: end up being some shady place where you get your 322 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: car broken into in the parking lot, like there's it's 323 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: just uh but yeah, so now I'm paying and the 324 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: money I don't care about. I want to know why 325 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: Packed twelve network got taken away for me in the 326 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: middle of a work day. I just I don't understand 327 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 1: what is going on with this conference and this channel. 328 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: And I don't mean to interrupt you, but like I 329 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: am having the same experience as a lot of frustrated fans, 330 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you you can't just win. If you 331 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: can't just you are you are a hundred percent right 332 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: about that. But there's been another thing that's before we 333 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: even get into the games. There's another things that are 334 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: constantly in the news. Larry Scott tries to tell us 335 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: everything is fine, Oh, it's on par with every other conference. 336 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: But I watch every I don't know if there's a 337 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: person who watches more college football than I do, like 338 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: it would be hard. I mean, I know, you watch 339 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: a ton of foot of college football two Ralph, and 340 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: you watch a ton of high school football too, But 341 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: I watch I watched every conference I watched. You know, 342 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm watching the Florida State game. I got multiple TVs going. 343 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to consume as much college football content as possible. 344 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: And Larry Scott keeps telling us that the Pac twelve 345 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: referees are fine, but I'm watching the games, and why 346 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: does it seem like it's only our referees that consistently 347 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: end up in controversies and happen to have plays reversed 348 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. Yeah. I talked to somebody last 349 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: night in the a SU press box and they're like, 350 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: it's every conference, It's every conference. And then they pointed 351 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: back to like the Miami Ohio State national championship, and 352 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well that was a generation ago, 353 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: and we get three of these every week, So I 354 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: don't I don't know what you what what what you're saying? Like, Uh, 355 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: the end of the Cow game had me so frustrated, 356 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: and I know, maybe you don't necessarily agree with my 357 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: take on it. Of they should have just called it 358 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: a touchdown and gone to replay. But the worst part 359 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: is having the conference drug into the national conversation immediately 360 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: after the game is over about like, oh PAC twelve 361 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: refs did it again. And then you have last night 362 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: in the Arizona State game, for the second week in 363 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: a row, they call, you know, Benjamin for a fumble 364 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: when he was down and replay has to reverse it. 365 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: And then in the last night's game, without replay, without replay, 366 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: Washington State beat two c l A. You and I 367 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: both know this, like that there is absolutely no way 368 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: that U c l A was gonna stop Washington State. 369 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: They hadn't done it all night. And uh, and Washington 370 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: State receiver, I think the receiver that had like four 371 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: touchdowns right like, he ends up being he was the 372 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: goat and the goat and he he fumbles, but they 373 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: say he was down and they have to go back 374 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: to replay, and it's just like guys, like try getting 375 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: a call right the first time for once. Or if 376 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: it was not for replay, this conference would be an 377 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: actual dumpster fire and not a metaphorical on like nobody 378 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: would want. The credibility to this conference would be completely 379 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: scrapped because they can't get these calls right in the 380 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: first place. If it was not for replay, yesterday would 381 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: have been the biggest mess in the history of the 382 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: pactical officiating just for a a week. Well, with the 383 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: uh Old Miss Cow game, I thought that, okay, so 384 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: you you have to look at it two ways because 385 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: on that when the pack twelve revs got a lot 386 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: of heat because they said they didn't review it blah 387 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: blah blah. But the SEC was the actual review mechanism, 388 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: So the crew on the field was back twelve. The 389 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: review crew was the SEC. And if the review crew 390 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: blows down to see if it's a touchdown and they 391 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: find on that third down and goal play, then if 392 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: they blow it down to stop it then and it 393 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: finds out that it's not a touchdown, then the game 394 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: is over. Old Miss loses because it's gonna be a runoff, 395 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: and then there is there's there there's a runoff. If 396 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: there's a review, that then stops a clock during a 397 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: running clock situation. So old Miss had a chance to 398 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: dive over the pile and and and get it in. 399 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day the call may 400 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: have been incorrect on the field, we can't tell because 401 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: this was not a premier game. So what don't we have. 402 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: We don't have end zone cameras because um having called games. 403 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: It is completely different when you're doing a primetime game, 404 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: when you are doing a ESPN U game or an 405 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 1: ESPN three game that's just digital. It's completely different. You 406 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: may have six cameras versus six team cameras or more. 407 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: That's the difference, so you get better angles. It's it's 408 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: it's almost like you know how when people used to 409 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: call in and be able to report violations during PGA 410 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: events and golf, and then they would go back and 411 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: find the person. I mean, they would assess stroke penalties 412 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: to people for the ball movie or not putting it 413 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: close enough to where their mark was. It's kind of 414 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: like that where if you are player number A hundred 415 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: and thirty six, you're never on TV. So no nobody 416 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: can ever report you. But if you're a Tiger Woods 417 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: or Dustin Johnson and every single shot has shown, then 418 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: you have a higher propensity of of having something go 419 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: wrong or having an opportunity to correct the wrong because 420 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: there are more video eyes on it. Yeah, I mean, 421 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: none of this would really matter if the other cameras 422 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: on the field, the referees eyeballs weren't broken, or if 423 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: they were doing their jobs. So I just everything comes 424 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: into question. I was less upset for oldness than I 425 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: am the fact that we got to bring these guys 426 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: back to officiate other games in the PAC twelve. That's 427 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: what the PAC twelve should really be worried about. It's like, oh, 428 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: these people are coming home with us, like, because it's 429 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: one thing when it messes over Michigan State, it messes 430 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: over oh Miss, but when like, they're not gonna all 431 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden get good at their job this week 432 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: and now all the games are gonna be packed twelve 433 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: versus packed twelve, And I just I don't like having 434 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: these conversations about officiating. You're not supposed to even notice 435 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: that they're there, and uh, and last night and then 436 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: the the cowl Miss thing was one thing, but last 437 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: night having to go to replay to overturn things in 438 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: Arizona State, Colorado and in U c. L A, Washington 439 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: State of crucial situations, it was just like, man, can 440 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: you not do you not know what a fumble is? 441 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: This is you know, I remember watching TV before replay 442 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: and there were like egregious miss cues, But now that 443 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: replay is a crutch. It just seems like it's fine 444 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: for them to repeatedly screw up all the time, like 445 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: because they've got this cushioning. Uh, and then they choose 446 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: not to use the cushioning at the end of that 447 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: cow Ol miss game and so, um, I don't know, 448 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: I just I disagree with the assessment that it is 449 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: all conferences. And yesterday, uh, the SEC joined in with 450 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: the big tent from last week and saying like, hey, 451 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: we don't want to schedule these teams anymore if they're 452 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna bring their rests with them. And I think that 453 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: that's the downside is eventually people are gonna yeah, yeah, 454 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: it's not even home cooking. It's not like they're cheating 455 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: for the back twelve teams. It's just that Yeah. Um, 456 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: the last thing before the games is uh, we have 457 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: been labored about the point about how we both hate 458 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: the Friday night games and the first, well, the second 459 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: Friday night game of the year. I think Arizona State 460 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: played against State the first Friday night game of the 461 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: year and that and then this last week we had 462 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: USC Utah and next week we got Cal playing Arizona 463 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: State on Friday night again, And I'm sitting here thinking, 464 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: what was your assessment of the Friday night game? Being 465 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: that Utah did pull the upset and people are talking 466 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: about it. Well, I mean I watched it like one 467 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: in the morning, and so it was. It was a 468 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: good football game, Um, it was. It was a weird 469 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: experience for me because I was on the sideline of 470 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: Brophy High School covering a high school game while this 471 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: game was going on. Well, Keith and Slovis gets knocked out, 472 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: and I'm standing right next to his offensive coordinator from 473 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: high school, Kurt Warner, and I'm like, do I say 474 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: something or he's got to coach this game? Like do 475 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: I do? I tell him? And then after the game, 476 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: when when USC had finally one, you know, they had 477 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: an offer. They have an offensive line commit from that 478 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: school named Andrew Millick, and it was kind of cool 479 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: to be able to tell him, like, hey, you know, 480 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: you guys got to win here and your your future 481 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: team gotta win over Utah, and so you know, he 482 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: was pretty excited about that. Like there there. So there 483 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: was a weird mixture of elements for me, just in 484 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: the situation of like, I'm trying to monitor this game. 485 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: You got Arizona high school kids that are in the game. 486 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: One of them got hurt really bad. Um, and uh, 487 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: and then I'm on the sideline with a USC commit 488 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: and um, you know, and so it was it was 489 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: just weird for me. I felt kind of torn. I'm 490 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: still not a fan of these Friday night games. But 491 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: the actual play on the field was good. It's not 492 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: like a situation where like the NFL puts football on 493 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: Thursdays and it always just seems clunky and and not 494 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: fully functional. Um. You know, it was a decent enough 495 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: football game. Um. But you know, maybe it affected Utah 496 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: in some way to have to travel and play on 497 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: a on a Friday night. You never really know. I 498 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: just prefer that they all be on Saturdays. But just 499 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: the quality of play, if that's what you're asking about, like, no, 500 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: it was a good game. So last night I'm on 501 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: the sideline of Brophy High School and I'm standing next 502 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: to Kurt Warner, who is their quarterbacks coach. His son 503 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: plays for the team. Well, he was Keatan Slovis's offensive 504 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: coordinator at Desert Mountain High School the year before. Keatan 505 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: Slogans ends up getting Kurt really bad, you know, knocked out, 506 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there like, oh, do I say 507 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: something to you know, to Kurt Warner. And then on 508 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: the other side of that, they have an offensive line 509 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: and Andrew Millick who has committed USC. So after the game, 510 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: I was able to tell him like, hey, your team 511 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: one and get his reaction. Um, it was. It was 512 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: sort of a weird situation for me because you know, 513 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: I I never watched these games live on Friday nights. 514 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: Friday nights for me or for going out and scouting 515 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: prospects and for for covering some some high school football, 516 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: um and so uh, you know, but if you're just 517 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: talking about the quality of play. When I got home 518 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: and I watched the game, it was good. It's not 519 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: really like the NFL in that you know, every single 520 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Thursday night game is garbage. College kids seem to be 521 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: able to to to put points on the board and 522 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: make things exciting regardless of what day of the week 523 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: it is. Could it have adversely affected Utah to have 524 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: to come to l a where they haven't won in 525 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: a hundred six years and play on a Friday night. Yeah. Maybe. 526 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you're right, like the play 527 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: was good. Um, but it was just a weird situation 528 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: for me because it was like, you know, I'm on 529 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: the sideline with wanting to update these people but not 530 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: wanting them to distract to be distracted from the task 531 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: that they had at hand. And um, I don't know. 532 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm still firmly against the Friday night games. But I mean, 533 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: if you're just talking about the style of play, it 534 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: was a very good game and they didn't seem to 535 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: be too affected by it by having to play it 536 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: on a frind. Yeah, I would agree that the quality 537 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: of play was there. I would agree that the quality 538 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: of play was there. But when it comes to the 539 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: actual you know, the actual mechanics of it, and just 540 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: the fact that you had the most story pack twelve 541 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: team versus a top ten team and so many people 542 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: can't watch it. I don't love it. It was the 543 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: only thing on and when it comes to ratings, it's 544 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: not even gonna rate as one of the five best 545 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: games of the weekend, even though it was a really 546 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: good game and a really good matchup and USC came 547 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: out and proved it. Um so we can get into 548 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: this game though, I thought that Clay Hilton. See Clay 549 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: Clay Hilton is a different kind of guy. He's the 550 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of guy that shows up when it matters, and 551 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna make it very, very difficult for USC to 552 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: fire him. He even though that they have some deficiencies, 553 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: are not showing up as much as they should. But 554 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: the fact that is why receiving corps is so good. 555 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: You can just throw the ball up. This is a 556 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: team that's going to win probably eight or nine games, 557 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: and you're and then you're gonna fire a coach that 558 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: won nine games. I mean that that might get a 559 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: little sticky, especially when you're hiring a like you're not 560 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna be hiring Nick Saban next and the next. And 561 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: their new president kind of already hinted that she doesn't 562 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: want urban Meyer. So what are you thinking now, Like, 563 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: are you sitting here saying Okay, so now who do 564 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: we get? And I always say that you have to 565 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: consider two rules before you fire coaches. You have to 566 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: consider which an article will be up on Unafraid Show 567 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: about that as soon as somebody's is fired. The number one, 568 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: you have to assess every single co at the end 569 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: of every season, whether they went undefeated and won a 570 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: national championship or whether they went defeated and lost every game. 571 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: And you need to say, is there a coach that 572 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: we can guarantee get that we'll do a better job 573 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: than this guy? So like if you are at you know, 574 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: so if you're at Boise State, Brian Harson, is there 575 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: great coach? But if you can get Urban Meyer or 576 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Nick Saban, you fire him. That doesn't it's not an 577 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: indictment on him, but you just know that they're gonna 578 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: do a better job. So that's kind of similar. And 579 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: then the other thing is is there a loss of hope? 580 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: Is there a loss of hope in the houses of 581 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: seventeen the eighteen year old kids to say that you 582 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: can't make them believe that the future is righter than 583 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: the past. And Clay Helton is gonna do just enough 584 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: where USC cannot fire him. Yeah, I mean, I just 585 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: we just went through this at Arizona State with a 586 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: seven and five a s U team, UM that then 587 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: beat the University of Arizona. And still the next day 588 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: UH fired Todd Graham so that Ray Anderson could execute 589 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: his vision of making you know, a s U and 590 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: NFL style locker room. UM. And so I think you 591 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: just gotta go with your guts. So they got to 592 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: get somebody in there who has conviction and a vision 593 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: at the athletic director position, and then that person needs 594 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: to go out and execute that vision. UM. I know 595 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: that USC is unique, and I know that they like 596 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: to go with alumni or whatever, but I don't you know, 597 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't care if I don't care if Clay Hilton 598 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: goes out there and and they make the College Football 599 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: Playoff and win the whole thing. If you get an 600 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: athletic director in there who wants to execute a new vision, 601 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: then you move forward in whatever direction that is. I'm 602 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: a firm believer in letting the boss be the boss. 603 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: Like you hired somebody for that skill set, let them 604 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: be themselves. And so you know, if the person they 605 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: bring in looks at what Clay Hilton is gonna do 606 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: and and says that that doesn't match up with the 607 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: with the way that I want to shape this athletic department, 608 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: then you got you gotta let him go. So right now, 609 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: to me, it's not so much about what Clay Helton's doing, 610 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: but who. It's about who they're going to bring in 611 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: and what their vision is for for USC, because it's 612 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: just a thing where you know, whoever comes in, it's 613 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 1: just Restora Glory, Restora Glory, restore glory. Then you're looking 614 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: to the past and not the future. So I think 615 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: they need to bring somebody in who is a visionary 616 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: and if within that vision Clay Helton exists and what 617 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: he's been doing exists, then great for him. And if not, 618 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: then I think he'll be on his way, which I 619 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: kind of just assumed that he'll eventually be on his 620 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: way anyway, with the fan base clamoring constantly for somebody 621 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: else to be in that seat, no matter how some 622 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: red leather, yellow leather. Um I am well. I was 623 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: looking at this game and Keaton Slogan started the game. Obviously, 624 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: he only threw two passes, and Matt Fink came in 625 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: and Matt Fink through for three fifty one yards, three 626 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 1: touchdowns and an interception, and so many people were singing 627 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: Matt Fink's praises there. Oh my god. They uh they 628 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: made the right decision with their quarterback opportunities because you 629 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: had J. T. Daniels have slogans, they're so deep and 630 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, if you put even if you put 631 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: uh Khalil Tate Amston in at quarterback for USC with 632 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: these wide receivers, he's gonna look like a world beater. 633 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: He would, he would, Khalil Tate would probably throw for 634 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: five thousand yards this season, or at least if he 635 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: were playing with USC's wide wide receivers. I mean me 636 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 1: and you could go out there and those are his people. 637 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: Those are the people he was dominating at the high school. 638 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: Throw it up, just throw it up to him and 639 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: they will go get it. The big body Vaughans, I'm 640 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: on st. Route Brown has good routes. These dudes made catches. 641 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: They made Jalen Johnson from Utah that they're all world corner. 642 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: He didn't look impressive. And most importantly, Brett Brett, most importantly, 643 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: Ralph uh Brett was my old radio partner and and 644 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: we we're Yeah, Tyler Huntley. I told you about Tyler Huntley. 645 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: I told you about him. I told you wasn't gonna 646 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: be good enough when it counted, and that he is 647 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: not special enough. So for this Utah team to win 648 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, do you finally believe I think he 649 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: I think he personally did enough to get Utah this win. 650 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 1: But when the how can you say he did enough? 651 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: He was twenty two for thirty for to ten and 652 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: a touchdown, and and a lot of that was run 653 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: after the catch. He wasn't like pushing the ball downfield 654 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: like this, right, not an impressive quarterback performance. But it's 655 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: a Utah quarterback performance. And this is supposed to be 656 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: the favorite in the conference, and their defense is supposed 657 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: to be good enough to where if you have a 658 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: quarterback that isn't turning the ball all over and can 659 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: get you a couple hundred yards passing that you're running, 660 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: game takes over and you get to win Utah. You 661 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: know what? He plays like that? Who can who can win? 662 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: Can teams play like that? Georgia? Georgia keeps trying to 663 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: play like that. Alabama keeps beating them. Uh, you have 664 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: Michigan trying to play like that everybody's beating them. Stanford 665 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: tries to play like that everybody that they're getting be 666 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: it does it rights games, but it can't win championship, right, 667 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: But you so? But I'm what I'm saying is you 668 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: can't tell me that that Tyler Huntley didn't do his 669 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: job like he did what they brought him there to do. 670 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: And this is this is it. This is on This 671 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: loss is on the defense, and if it's on the 672 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: coaches for not adapting to a style that would actually 673 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: make them worthy of being the favorite in the pack 674 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: twelve South, then I get that. But Tyler Huntley went 675 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: out there and did exactly what you expected from him. 676 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: What was that old like Zach Crockett line, you need 677 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: a yard, I'll give you three. You need five yards, 678 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: I'll give you three. Tyler Huntly went out there and 679 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: got his three yards like that's what he does. And 680 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: so I'm not really willing to put it on him. 681 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: I know you text me you. So I had to 682 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: go back and reverse engineer because I wasn't watching the 683 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: game live. I had to go figure out exactly what 684 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: you meant by like I told you he was bad, 685 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: And I think you sent it right after he took 686 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: that safety. Um, I think I think that's when you 687 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: sent it. Was like I told you about Tyler Huntley 688 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: and uh, and I think that that was around the 689 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: part and I mean that wasn't very pretty, but yeah, 690 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean I felt like he went out and did 691 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: exactly what you would have expected him to do. And 692 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: if you need him to put the game on his 693 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: shoulders and go out and win it and make up 694 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: for the defense, he's not going to do that. But 695 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: nobody voted for Utah to win the Pact twelve on 696 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: the strength of Tyler Huntley. Like they was. They went 697 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: forward on the fact that their scheduled, the fact that 698 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: they didn't have to play Stanford, and the fact that 699 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: they didn't have to play Oregon that it made their 700 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: schedule a little bit easier. But as I've been saying 701 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: all along, all along, you have have to have a 702 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: quarterback who at some point in time can win you 703 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: a football game. Every team has to have it, whether 704 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: you are Alabama all the way down to to to 705 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 1: New Mexico State, at some point in time to win anything, 706 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: your quarterback has to be special because some days your 707 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: defense is not gonna have a great day and and 708 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: some some days you just need a little bit more. 709 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: So I'm not knocking Tyler Huntley because he is who 710 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: he is. I'm knocking Utah as a championship caliber team. 711 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: And I have been not knocking Tyler, but just knocking 712 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: Utah as a championship team because of his limited skill 713 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 1: set and because of the way that they play football. 714 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't work in twenty nineteen. Yeah. Uh so. One 715 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: of the things about this game that I did not 716 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: enjoy was he never liked to see players go down. 717 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: It looks like Zack Moss is having some show their issues. Um, 718 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: that's that's not great, you know, for for that team. 719 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: Um when he I think they were trying to ride 720 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: him to a Pac twelve championship. Was was really the 721 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: goal of this offense. What happened to Keaton Slobis made 722 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: me throw up in my mouth, if I'm being honest, 723 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: like it was a clean hit. I always wonder, you know, 724 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: because I got a former a SU lineman who does 725 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: player evaluations for me on the high school football side, 726 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: and he always talks about how he watches these offensive 727 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: lineman's film and he said, you know, I don't like 728 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 1: that this guy leads with his head and I never 729 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: really like fully understood the damage that leading with your 730 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: head can do until I watched Mackenzie completely with on 731 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: the best defensive lineman in college football at least on 732 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: the west side of the Mississippi. And he got a 733 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: clear shot at picking Keaton Slobs up off the ground 734 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: and driving him into the turf a clean hit. But 735 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: this is an eighteen year old five month kid taking 736 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: on a twenty three year old you know at Salute monster, 737 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: putting the full three thirty pounds down on him, you know. 738 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: And then and then when he stood up and he 739 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: dropped back down to the ground, man, that was that 740 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: was disturbing. Like, I uh, I felt really bad for 741 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: him in that instance. But I mean that that the 742 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: hopefully Mackenzie is the one that's you know, walking him 743 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: through concussion protocol and who knows when Keaton Slovic Slovis 744 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: comes back. But I mean that was he put his 745 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: head down and just whiffed and you can't he got 746 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: his quarterback hurt, and that's, uh, you know, that's sad 747 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: to think about. What do you think about? Okay, so 748 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: USC got the win. They look good, you know, potentially 749 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 1: going forward their three and one, A lot of people 750 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: expected them to start the season out one and three. 751 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: They go at Washington next week. But here is the problem. 752 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: If you're looking at this team, they only were able 753 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: to run the ball, like so, USC has had a 754 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: problem running the ball all season. Their secondary had been porched, 755 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: and you're looking at their running game. Twenty two rushers 756 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: thirteen yards. What is this like? It's it's like, this 757 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: is not USC. I know Graham Harrow's get implementing his 758 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: air raid and all that, but even the air raid 759 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: teams usually run the ball pretty successfully because they're throwing 760 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: the ball successfully. This is not a long term winning 761 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: solution for USC when they cannot run the football. Yeah. 762 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean that Utah defensive line like deserves credit. I 763 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: think they scared USC out of even trying, and USC 764 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: had something that was working and so they rolled with 765 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: that and they got to win. I mean, I'm if 766 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: they can't do it again at Washington next week, then 767 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'll be more on on the side of 768 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: this is a this is an actual problem. Um. But 769 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: they won the game and they relied on their strengths, 770 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 1: which you and I have been banging on the table 771 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: like shouting, why don't they give these guys a chance? 772 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: Why don't they just incorporate a Moan ros st Brown 773 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: into the offense early scripts and place where in which 774 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 1: they did. Um. You know, Michael Pittman absolutely went off. 775 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: Tyler Bonds had that touchdown catch over Jalen uh Jelien 776 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: that just made him forget his own name. You know, 777 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: he's out there sitting in the end zone on his 778 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: butt looking around for a I don't know, a flag 779 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: or something like for someone to come to his to 780 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: his aid. Uh. They relied on their strengths and they 781 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: gotta win against what was the highest ranked team in 782 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. So I'm not gonna be mad at 783 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: them for not attempting to run the ball when on 784 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: the second play of the game, Lecky Poet, you know, 785 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: was out there ruining Keithan Silwis's life. Um. You know, 786 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: if they saw that it wasn't working and they went 787 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: out and got to win and did what they needed 788 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: to do, great. I don't think they'll be able to 789 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: do that against Washington. Um, because because you know, I 790 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: feel a little bit more strongly about the actual talent 791 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: that Washington has in the defensive backfield, and I do 792 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: the kind of fools goal that that that Utah has 793 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: in a lot of you know, their coverage is is 794 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: supplemented by great defensive line play. So I don't think 795 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: USC will be able to get away with it next week. 796 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: But it worked this week, so I don't get much 797 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 1: to complain about. Well if if if you look, they 798 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: didn't run the ball successfully against b y U either 799 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: like that this was not a like, and they didn't 800 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: do it against Stanford. They're leading rushier against Stanford was 801 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: a Malapai who rushed for forty two yards. I mean, 802 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: this is not a solution for long term winning football games. 803 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,959 Speaker 1: But this was a big win for USC. They got 804 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: a good opportunity to be on a national stage all 805 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: by themselves, and they won the game. So I guess 806 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I guess that's all 807 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: that matters, is that you get a w. But you know, 808 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: going forward, though, the South is going to be much 809 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: more competitive, and I think that we learned a lot 810 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: about that from last last night. But I wanted to 811 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: get into the Washington b y U game. Washington b 812 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: y U nineteen Jacob Easton two ninety yards, three touchdowns, 813 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: McGrew went for a hundred ten yards Aaron Fuller. He 814 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: wasn't afraid to catch the ball again now that he 815 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 1: wasn't playing and playing against Cal, Washington looks good at 816 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: three and one, and they knocked down b y U, 817 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: who beat USC. So how do you evaluate these two teams? Well? 818 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: And from what you saw in the game. Well, first 819 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: of all, um, when I when I heard that Shaw 820 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: McGrew was starting, I was fired up because this is 821 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: a little guy man. He's he's really really small, but 822 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: he can do some pretty special things. And so I 823 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: thought it would be pretty cool to see what he 824 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 1: could do against the b y U team that has 825 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: a pretty good rushing defense. He went out and got stuck, 826 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: like on I think it was on watching its first series. 827 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,720 Speaker 1: He got hit in the backfield on a corner blitz 828 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: and I was thinking to myself like, well, if he 829 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: gets up from this, then I mean he'll be ready 830 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: to go. And he did and then he went on 831 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: to have a pretty good game. Um, this was And 832 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: I think that I opened our last podcast by saying 833 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: that I believe that Washington that this wasn't gonna be competitive, 834 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: in that Washington was going to go in there it 835 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: would be a tough environment, but that I thought that 836 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: they just absolutely dismantled B y U. And I was 837 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the first half, I was actually 838 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: like writing a little thing that like where I was gonna, 839 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: you know, on the podcast talk about the fact that 840 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: I feel like they're letting b y U back into 841 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 1: this game by getting cute and not taking a field 842 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: goal and trying to run a fake to go up 843 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: twenty two instead of eighteen, which is still three scores. 844 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: You swing the momentum back to b y U and 845 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: they come out and kick a field goal, and then 846 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's only, uh, you know, it's 847 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: only fifteen point lead at half. And so I mean 848 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: I had this thing all written and ready to go 849 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: where I was just gonna rip Washington for letting b 850 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: yu back in the game, and they came out after 851 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: halftime and just beat the hell beat the hell out 852 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: of the Cougars, And it was I mean, that flash 853 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: that third quarter is what I thought Washington was like. 854 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: That third quarter was everything to me. And and uh, 855 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: this is one of the best teams, if not the 856 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 1: best team, in the Pack twelve. Right now, I don't 857 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: care about the results from earlier in the season that 858 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: third Ralph Stop, dude, stop, come on, bro like like 859 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: you cannot tell you you did not just say that 860 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: you think that Washington is the best team in to 861 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: back twelve as of right now, they either are the 862 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 1: best or one of the best based on that third 863 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: that third quarter against b y You told you what 864 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: the ceiling was. It told you correct, But you you 865 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 1: have to do that in all your games. And at 866 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: this point in time, Washington is at best the third 867 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: best team in the back to us right now, at 868 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: best you under no circumstances will I allow you to 869 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: put put them above col I know we haven't gotten 870 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: to the power rankings yet, but that this this is absurd. 871 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: This is absurd already. Um. But the Washington b y 872 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: U game, I think that Washington learned a lesson from 873 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: USC that they came out and they said, look, we're 874 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: more talented, and we're going to act like it. We're 875 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,959 Speaker 1: not going to keep a game close for the sake 876 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: of keeping it close. We're gonna go out, go deep, execute, 877 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: try to get our athletes in space. And that's what 878 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 1: they did. They did the opposite of what USC did. 879 00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,240 Speaker 1: They went into the game with a struggle mentality, and 880 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: at Jacob Easton bounce back from the Cow game, he 881 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: looks good again. He looks good while mind you, he 882 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: is maybe not the best Pack twelve quarterback, but at 883 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: the end of the day, he's good enough. And this 884 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: Washington team is good enough to win the Pack twelve still, 885 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: and you are going to have a dog fight in 886 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 1: the North between Cow, Washington, and Oregon. Those games should 887 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: be epic this year. Yeah. So, I mean, it's just 888 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: if you're gonna throw out there that they're good enough 889 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: to win the Pack twelve, but tell me that they're 890 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: not that that that it would be unfair to say 891 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: that they're uh, they're playing like the best team in 892 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: the back Pack twelve. I think there's a little bit 893 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: of a disconnect there because I think that if you're 894 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: willing to admit that they have a possibility to win 895 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 1: it based on what they've shown on the field, then 896 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to say that they're up 897 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: there right now at this moment. No, I think it's 898 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: crazy too. In in your power rankings, if you have 899 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: Washington ranked in front of Cow, then that's what unreasonable. 900 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 1: I can't I can't take that, ralph Um, so we 901 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: can move on to the next game. Cow went down 902 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: to Oxford went down the hot ass Mississippi gotta win, 903 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,959 Speaker 1: although it was a controversial ending. Maybe Old Miss doesn't 904 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 1: even get the two point conversion to twenty Chase Garber's 905 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell got into twenty three 906 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: for thirty five three hundred and fifty seven yards and 907 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: four t d s. He what whatever him and Dorian 908 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson in the second half took. They need to 909 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: give that to to the whole conference when they played 910 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: non conference games. This was absolutely a spectacular performance and 911 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: according to the Pack. To the Cow coaches that I 912 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 1: talked to, they said that he's been doing this for 913 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks in practice and that's why 914 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: they were willing to let him sit in empty sets 915 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: and throw the ball around because he's been proving himself 916 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: and that he's stepping up in practice. This was a 917 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: quality win. The conference could not take a ranked team 918 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: losing to a fourth or fifth place SEC West team. 919 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: This was a big deal and Cal is getting the 920 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 1: respect that it deserves at fourteen in the a P 921 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 1: pole Right now, have you ever seen that the It's 922 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: like the meme of Julia Louis Dreyfuss from Veep, where 923 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: she's like nervously saying WTF. Like that was That's all 924 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 1: I could think of when I was watching Old Miss 925 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: drop eight into coverage and get carved up by a 926 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: Chase Garber's who. That was his fifteenth career game, and 927 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 1: like half of his games in his career, he's thrown 928 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 1: for under a hundred yards. He threw for fient of 929 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: his career yards against Soule Miss, of his career yards. 930 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: Like again, they were dropping eight into coverage and he 931 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: was shredding them the way that he was just calmly 932 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: get some yards when there was an opening, like I just, 933 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I absolutely love the way he played. I've 934 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: been waiting for him to break out. My favorite part 935 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 1: about this game is he did it against an ole 936 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: Miss team that has two former Pack twelve head coaches, 937 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: uh In Rich Rod and Mike McIntire, neither of which 938 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: offered Chase Garverers. And so he was ready to set 939 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: them boys out, yep, yep. And so like he didn't 940 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: get the UFA offer, he didn't get the Colorado offer. 941 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: And now look what happens. And and you know how 942 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: about Matt Correll or Matt coral uh, you know him 943 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: saying that these these California boys wouldn't be able to 944 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: go out there and handle the heat. Man, it was 945 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: a litle miss that looked tired all game long, Like 946 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 1: it was them that looked dejected. They're gonna have two 947 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: people in the South. They're gonna have to stop using 948 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: that as a crutch. They feel like they have some 949 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 1: sort of inherent advantage. We saw Boise State go down 950 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: and is just demoralized Florida State in the second half, 951 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: and then Willie Tagger said his team wasn't hydrated. Now 952 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: you've got Cal going to Old Miss. Oh, the heat 953 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: will be too much. They're they're not used to this. 954 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,760 Speaker 1: They're they're Callie boys. Yeah, yeah, okay, take this Callie 955 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: Ale which you wrote and and tuck your tail. That's 956 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: what I was My favorite. My favorite thing is like 957 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: they got like seven freshmen on Cal's roster from from Phoenix, 958 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: and so I was like, yeah, I don't think it's 959 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: gonna be too hot for some of these guys. Like 960 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: I watched these guys in one eighteen and pads less 961 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,479 Speaker 1: than a year ago. I'm pretty sure they can handle it. Yeah, 962 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: I mean everybody performed well. You uh, they spread the 963 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 1: ball around, they had you know, uh, like nine different 964 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 1: receivers or backs touched touched the ball. They're they're they're 965 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: tight end ended up with a sixty yard touchdown. This 966 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: was an overall one of the least athletic, one of 967 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: the least athletic catching runs I've ever seen. And there 968 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: was nothing he won. That was Jake Thomas, right the 969 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: that had that third quarter touchdown. I was like, nobody know, 970 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: there's where's the sec speed? You can't run this guy down? 971 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,359 Speaker 1: Like he was looking back and you could see in 972 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: his eyes through his face mask. Tackle me. Please. If 973 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: I make it ten more yards, I might not be 974 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: able to play the rest of this game. Like He's like, 975 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: this is further than I've ever had to run before. 976 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: Somebody please bring me down, and the rest of the 977 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: offense will come in and finish this off and he 978 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: ends up scoring, and it was just it was I 979 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: was embarrassed for all miss But I want to give 980 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 1: big props, big, big, big, big props to Evan Weaver. 981 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: Evan Weaver and back to back, well not back back 982 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: to back weeks, but in a two weeks span against 983 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: Washington showed up bigger than he ever had eighteen tackles, 984 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: and then against oh Miss showed up with twenty two ackles, 985 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: eleven solo, half a sack, half a tackle for lost, 986 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: two quarterback hurries. I think we're possibly looking at the 987 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: back twelve defensive player of the Year this year. Yeah, 988 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: And I mean, and then you just look at the 989 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: fact that, like you know, uh Ole Miss didn't turn 990 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: the ball over through the air, but they threw forty 991 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 1: eight passes and none of them were for touchdowns. These 992 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: defensive backs are the real real deal. And then if 993 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: they take on the attitude of Evan Weaver, I mean, 994 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 1: it's a special defense, it really is. Um, you know, offensively, 995 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: is this the norm or was this an anomaly? We'll 996 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: see because they still only averaged one point yards a 997 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: rush on the game. Um, so it's not like they 998 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: did everything perfect. But I mean they did look really good. 999 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,919 Speaker 1: I'll give them that. Oh and they played at nine 1000 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. So guess what, fans, if you 1001 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: get nine o'clock games, it will be okay. I guess 1002 00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 1: it'll be okay Because cal Cal made This was like 1003 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 1: a test run that that even though it was a 1004 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 1: non conference game, this was a test run that they 1005 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 1: were doing see how to pack twelve games perform well. Actually, 1006 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 1: the fact that the pack twelve team performed well, I 1007 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 1: think that that makes it less likely that they'll do 1008 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: nine nine games because Larry's got can't sabotage this. So 1009 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: he's like, oh man, it worked. Yeah, I'm like, what 1010 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: if that's the key for Cow It's that the smart 1011 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 1: kids all go to betterly and so they have a 1012 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: hard time playing at seven at night. But if you 1013 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: give these cow kids a nine in the morning game, 1014 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, when when they're up and they've had their 1015 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: well balanced breakfast, then they're good to go. They're going 1016 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: to test um and then the next game up in 1017 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 1: the day was what was in the preseason looked at 1018 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a big game but turned out 1019 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: not to be quite as big of a game as 1020 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: it was because Stanford had just had two back to 1021 00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 1: back bad losses against U c F and US and 1022 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 1: then Oregon was ranked number sixteen. They hadn't given up 1023 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 1: a touchdown in two straight games and then continued that 1024 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 1: streak to this game, which is completely unbelievable to me. 1025 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: I've never seen a time where Oregon didn't give up 1026 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 1: three didn't give up a touchdown in three straight games. 1027 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember happening in two straight games. So this 1028 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: is incredible. This defense is really good. They won twenty 1029 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: one to six on the farm. What is your assessment 1030 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: of this game, Ralph, because I am going to be 1031 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: the wet blanket guy just so everybody knows. Well, I mean, 1032 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm learning more and more that Stanford doesn't have a 1033 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: home field advantage. Like I'm I'm I'm I'm newer to this, Okay, 1034 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: Like I haven't. I haven't followed Stanford very closely outside 1035 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: of the last like six or seven years, and um 1036 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 1: And I was listening to a podcast recently where one 1037 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 1: of their former players was talking about how demoralizing it 1038 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: is to play at home hum and he said that 1039 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: they call the stadium the library because it's so quiet 1040 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: that the actual Stanford players call it that. And so 1041 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: I mean, knowing that that it was gonna not really 1042 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: be there, weren't really gonna have an advantage, um And 1043 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: to have Oregon come in and play the way that 1044 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: they played defensively, like I thought Stanford played pretty well. Uh, 1045 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 1: And I mean Oregon's defense is just really good. Um. 1046 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,439 Speaker 1: This one is one of this one of those games 1047 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: where it was like, oh, a couple of missed opportunities 1048 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: here and there. I could see Stanford has maybe scored 1049 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: twenty four points in this game. Um. I didn't think 1050 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: Oregon played all that well offensively, but like, defensively, they 1051 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: were so good that didn't matter. And to put a 1052 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: team to sleep in a stadium where everybody's ready to 1053 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: go to sleep anyway, I thought it was a good 1054 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: performance by Oregon. I just I I didn't think that 1055 00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 1: the demise of Stanford would come as quickly. You've been 1056 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: predicting it for a couple of years, but I didn't 1057 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 1: think it would show up this quick. And uh, and 1058 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: to not score a touchdown at home against one of 1059 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: your rivals is is not the way to convince people 1060 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,919 Speaker 1: to speak up in the library. Stanford shored up their 1061 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 1: defense a little bit this game. They have been gashed 1062 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: the previous weeks for multiple twenty five yard games, and 1063 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 1: I think that Oregon only had two plays over twenty 1064 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: five yards in the game. They had a couple of 1065 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 1: twenty four yard plays too, but they didn't have two 1066 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: twenty five yard plays, and that was a big departure 1067 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: from what happened the previous two weeks. It was really 1068 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 1: really bad, so to to wet blanket this situation. I 1069 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: still do believe I have Oregon ranked in my top 1070 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 1: ten for all of college football, the college football Top ten, 1071 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: as it should be article on Unafraid Show. But at 1072 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: the same time, I'm looking at this to they're not 1073 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: running the football very well. Like if you take out 1074 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's sacks with which they call carries, they finished 1075 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: with twenty five carries eighty three yards and like a 1076 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: three point three point oh average, And I'm just sitting 1077 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: there like this is not good. The team has trouble 1078 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 1: running the football. And I thought it was the offensive 1079 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: line but at the set, but it is the backs, 1080 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 1: particularly c. J. Verdell, who took twenty four of the 1081 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 1: five carries, which I'm surprised they didn't rotate some of 1082 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: the backs a little bit more. He is a physical runner, 1083 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 1: he's fast, but he just is a is a battering 1084 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: ram and there isn't the patience to cut back fine 1085 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: lanes all of this stuff. So sometimes there's a lot 1086 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: of yards left on the field, and I think that 1087 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Oregon is gonna need to put in dairy and Felix 1088 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Travis died somebody else. But C. J. Burdell is really 1089 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 1: good in the past e mey in past protection. But 1090 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is a like he's playing so well. I 1091 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 1: think he's extended his touchdown streak to like thirty some 1092 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 1: thirty semi games with a touchdown pass. And but on 1093 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: the Stanford side, Ralphs, I could not be anymore disappointed. 1094 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 1: What what's happening with Stanford and what's happening with uh 1095 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 1: David Shaw? He is becoming the um, the Jim Harbaugh 1096 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: of the Pac twave, Like everything's changing around him and 1097 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 1: he refuses to change. He's the old kermudgeon. Get off 1098 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: my lawn, guy. Oh remember back in my day, this 1099 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: is how we play ball. Ball ain't played like that 1100 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 1: no more. Yeah, I mean they did throw thirty times, 1101 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: so they I mean when they were averaging five point 1102 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: three yards to carry with their running backs. You know, 1103 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 1: I could have seen maybe in a situation where a 1104 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 1: couple of years ago they would have given the running backs, 1105 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, fifty carries in a game that was still 1106 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: just a two score game Um in the fourth quarter, 1107 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 1: and so I don't know. I thought I actually thought 1108 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: they were they were doing an okay job running the 1109 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: ball against this Oregon defense, but they missed Walker a little, 1110 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 1: a whole, a whole lot, especially when like Cavon Thibodeau 1111 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 1: true freshman is getting in the backfield. You had um 1112 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 1: Lamar Winston had a sack, gust Cumberlander had one and 1113 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 1: a half, Drayton Carlberg got in. You know, they had 1114 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: about like six or seven different players. Hurry the quarterback, 1115 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: Troy Die looked good, had a tackle for loss. This 1116 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 1: whole defense was just all over the place. And I 1117 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 1: feel like if if David Shaw had even involved maybe 1118 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: a little bit less and they had depended on the 1119 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 1: running game, I don't think they win this game. But 1120 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: I also I also think that you're probably looking at 1121 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 1: maybe like a seventeen to ten situation because it was 1122 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: obvious that throwing the ball wasn't an work and they 1123 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 1: still kept well, they still kept going with it. I mean, 1124 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: if you take away Michael Wilson's twenty five yard catch 1125 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: in this game, if you take away Michael Wilson's twenty 1126 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,479 Speaker 1: five yard catch, kJ Costello is fifteen of twenty nine 1127 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: for ninety five yards. It was not working. And so 1128 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: that you know, and I think a little bit a 1129 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, maybe they would have stuck with 1130 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 1: the run a little bit more than the problem is 1131 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: that they could. Yeah, and this is just the problem. 1132 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 1: They kept being in third and long yardage. So when 1133 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 1: when when you stay in third and long, you have 1134 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: to pass the ball. When it's third and six, seven, eight, 1135 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 1: you have to And they tried to throw a bunch 1136 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 1: of screens. Oregon sniff them out. For for the most part, 1137 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: I cannot to get off being a wet blanket guy. 1138 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: I was so impressed with Oregon. Like I tell you, 1139 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: their their defense is phenomenal. I am. I've never seen 1140 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 1: anything like like this since I have been a part 1141 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 1: of Oregon. Some amazing and it is great to see. Yeah, yeah, 1142 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 1: I am. I'm proud of that. But I do need 1143 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 1: their running game to get a little better. And I 1144 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 1: don't like the fact that they only scored twenty one points. Um. 1145 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 1: Next game up, Colorado and your boys, the Arizona State 1146 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 1: sun Devils. You came out and uh you you did 1147 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 1: say that they would not cover the seven point spread. 1148 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. How the hell did they scored thirty 1149 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: one point They lost thirty four to thirty one at home. 1150 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 1: How did they scored thirty one points? I watched the 1151 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: Michigan State game. I watched the Kents State game. I 1152 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,439 Speaker 1: watched the Sacramento State game. It's Colorado's defense just that bad, 1153 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 1: you know. Well, Colorado's defense is definitely very bad. Um, 1154 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 1: so we'll just get that out of the way. They 1155 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 1: are not a good defense at all. Um. Jaden Daniels 1156 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 1: did throw an interception in this game, but that was 1157 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: on him and he said it was on him. Um, 1158 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 1: Colorado didn't force that. Uh. Jane Daniels again looked ridiculously 1159 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 1: good for a freshman. He's a special player five yards passing. 1160 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: He had the pick in the fourth quarter that that 1161 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, made his performance a little bit sour. 1162 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: But this kid's on pace to throw forty yards as 1163 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 1: a freshman and that was his first interception in well 1164 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: over a hundred passing attempts. He's good. But moving on 1165 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: to what what Colorado was just able to do in 1166 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: this game is Colorado has been starting slow, right, and 1167 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 1: I think what they did is they went back and 1168 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 1: they took a long look at the one successful drive 1169 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,919 Speaker 1: that Michigan State had against Arizona State, because Arizona State 1170 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 1: plays this three three five stack and it's kind of 1171 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 1: confusing as to what they're gonna do. And they looked 1172 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,440 Speaker 1: at that one drive and they were like, what is 1173 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 1: it that Michigan State did to move the ball? Well, 1174 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 1: they attacked the sort of soft center with quick slants 1175 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: and bunch formations. So Colorado State came out there and 1176 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 1: they ran a bunch of stuff out a bunch formations 1177 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 1: where you don't really know who's gonna break out or 1178 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 1: who's gonna go across the middle. Um and uh, and 1179 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: it worked. And Stephen Montes is an accurate quarterback. And 1180 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: you and I talked about the fact that if Sacramento 1181 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 1: State had had an accurate quarterback, that would have been 1182 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 1: a problem for Arizona State too. I don't think Arizona 1183 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 1: States defense is overrated. I just don't think their defensive 1184 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: line is good enough to make sure that how good 1185 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 1: their back seven is always shows up. So Uh, the 1186 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 1: way that this game worked out was you have a 1187 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 1: team that hadn't scored a whole lot in the first 1188 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 1: half of any of their games come out and get 1189 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 1: fourteen right away, and then for the rest of the game. 1190 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: Arizona State smacked Colorado State around and it wasn't enough. 1191 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 1: They made a costly turnover at the end of the game. Um, 1192 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: but Colorado State started quick and then Rope adopted for 1193 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,919 Speaker 1: the rest of the game and came out with a win. Yeah. 1194 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: I thought this game was headed into overtime, but it 1195 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 1: turned out not not to be. I thought that Alex 1196 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: font Not the running back at Colorado, thought he did 1197 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: a good good job. And somebody on Twitter told me, 1198 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: they said that I am when I said the USC 1199 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 1: has the best wide receiver cords in the entire country. 1200 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 1: And I said that Alabama second, and then Clemson, and 1201 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 1: I had Clemson and somebody tied for for oh Clemson, 1202 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 1: Oklahoma tied for fourth. Somebody said, you're sleeping on Colorado's 1203 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 1: wide receivers, that they are deep and they have depth. 1204 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 1: Think about it. This is the second time Colorado has 1205 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: one a game where Laviska Channalt basically was invisible in 1206 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 1: the box tour. He finished with one catch for twenty 1207 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: three yards, Tony Brown nine for one fifty and three touchdowns, 1208 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: and Katie Nixon six. I it's it's confusing. It's confusing, 1209 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: and this Colorado Buffalo's team is much better on offense 1210 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 1: than you would think they would be, especially with a 1211 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: defensive head coach like mil Tucker. Well, first of all, 1212 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 1: where the hell did Tony Brown come from? Because there's 1213 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 1: a reason that you're sleeping on Colorado's receiving corps. Katie 1214 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Nixon has been good, especially with the with being able 1215 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 1: to break out when teams game plan around the biscuson 1216 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 1: all well, the Biscuitsalt didn't play in this game. After 1217 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,599 Speaker 1: like the first series of the game. He got knocked 1218 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: out of the game. So he's injured. And you have 1219 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 1: Tony Brown and and Katie Nixon. You should be able 1220 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: to handle just those two. But Tony Brown catches two 1221 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,919 Speaker 1: ridiculous like balls just so well thrown from Stephen Montes 1222 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 1: right on Jack Jones's head, which you know, I know 1223 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 1: Jack Jones has been away from football for a while. 1224 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 1: Maybe he shouldn't have been in the game. But then 1225 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 1: you look at the coverage and you're like, well, I 1226 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 1: don't think that could have been any better than it was. Um, 1227 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: Tony Brown, this is his fifth year in college football. 1228 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 1: He did two years out at Texas Tech. I believe 1229 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 1: he's played against Arizona State a couple of times before, 1230 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 1: but the most received yards Tony Brown has ever had 1231 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: in a season was three thirty three on thirty two catches. 1232 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 1: Last year at Colorado, he had a hundred fifty yards 1233 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 1: receiving coming into this game. He had three touchdowns yesterday. 1234 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,839 Speaker 1: He had three touchdowns in his career in three seasons 1235 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: before that. So I don't want to hear that Tony 1236 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,679 Speaker 1: Brown that anybody was sleeping on him. He was asleep. 1237 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 1: He's the one that woke up. We only get to 1238 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: wake up to him when he performed. So he tore 1239 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: it up yesterday. But I don't want to hear anybody 1240 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 1: say that, like, oh, he was this guy that was 1241 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 1: just waiting to go off. This was This was really 1242 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Stephen Montes game. Stephen Montes looked really good. And guess 1243 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,600 Speaker 1: what happens when no one presses you, because nobody, nobody 1244 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 1: on Arizona State's roster got any pressure on Stephen Montes. 1245 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,880 Speaker 1: You tear it up. On third down. He was nine 1246 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 1: of twelve third down. He was nine of twelve for 1247 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,839 Speaker 1: like seven first downs and over a hundred and seven yards. 1248 01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 1: They got no pressure on him at all, no pass rush. 1249 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: Was My biggest concern for Arizona State going into this 1250 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,960 Speaker 1: year is that not being able to get to the 1251 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,280 Speaker 1: pass or would waste how good your defensive backs are. 1252 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,800 Speaker 1: That's what happened. Um. Frank Darby uh continues to screw 1253 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 1: up and drop balls and stuff for Arizona State. I 1254 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,599 Speaker 1: don't know how much longer they can have him out there, 1255 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 1: um with you know, and then he had a glorious 1256 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,519 Speaker 1: touchdown catch at the end of the end of the 1257 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: game and all is forgiven, right so um, But I 1258 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 1: think what this comes down to is Colorado made coaching adjustments. 1259 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,719 Speaker 1: Colorado is good. Stephen Montez is good. This offensive line 1260 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 1: for Colorado is good. Um, but if they can't stop anybody, eventually, 1261 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 1: they're going to run into a bunch of trouble. In 1262 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 1: the past twelve um should have Arizona State won this game. 1263 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily feel like I felt like maybe a 1264 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 1: couple of coaching decisions kept Arizona State from having a 1265 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 1: chance to win. But I have to credit Colorado for 1266 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 1: how they protected the passer and just how accurate Stephen 1267 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: Montez was, especially without Leviski Chenald h Yeah, dude and dude. 1268 01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 1: I used to love the show bos of the clown 1269 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 1: um the uh. The last game up is U C 1270 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 1: l A versus Washington State. This is a game nobody 1271 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 1: gave the Bruins a chance, especially not you, Ralph. I 1272 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: have been a ship elly believer. I've said that they're 1273 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna win the Pack twelve South there. Yes, yes, it 1274 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 1: is back, it is back. I never gave away my 1275 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 1: I never gave it away. I doubts started creep doubts 1276 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: started creeping in. But you either have to have faith 1277 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,559 Speaker 1: or worried. You can't have both. So I got faith 1278 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 1: again and I'm gonna read you some some numbers. Tell 1279 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 1: me how absurd these and tell me if you know 1280 01:11:48,240 --> 01:12:01,639 Speaker 1: what numbers I'm reading. Ten seven, seven, fourteen fourteen. Those 1281 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 1: are the quarters, Yes that, those are the amount of 1282 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 1: points that were scored in the quarters by the team 1283 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,200 Speaker 1: to end up with the highest scoring game impact twelve history, 1284 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty points in regulation. And to make 1285 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:21,400 Speaker 1: it even worse, Washington State in in the third quarter 1286 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 1: was up by thirty two points. Ralph. This is one 1287 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 1: of the most not in the third quarter, with six 1288 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: minutes left in the third quarter. This is the most 1289 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:40,640 Speaker 1: unbelievable victory, improbable victory that I can remember, because I 1290 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,599 Speaker 1: remember the game a couple of years ago with Josh 1291 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 1: Rosen when they came back from thirty four against Texas 1292 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 1: A and M. But they had Josh Rosen and U 1293 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 1: C L A was supposed to be pretty good. Now, 1294 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: get uh. Dorian Thompson Robinson had been much maligned, even 1295 01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 1: by me. This dude turned into a real live corps 1296 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,799 Speaker 1: her back and it was a shootout where Anthony Gordon 1297 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 1: for Washington State through for five dred and seventy yards 1298 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 1: and nine touchdowns and lost. Oh man, I don't know 1299 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 1: what to say about this game, dude, I have no idea. 1300 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:21,360 Speaker 1: I watched your boy, Max BORGI have just an incredible, 1301 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 1: incredible game. You only had the one touchdown. But I 1302 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 1: don't understand what happened. The tackling in the last twenty 1303 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:34,320 Speaker 1: minutes of this game was the thrushes. Yeah, it was 1304 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: like somebody was It was like it was like the 1305 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: monsters stole their powers or something like. It looks so 1306 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: in apt um. I just I don't know what to say. 1307 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about this game here, 1308 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 1: here's what I will say. I mean the we're in 1309 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 1: the n SU press box getting ready to record the 1310 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,719 Speaker 1: podcast that I do for just Arizona State, and it's 1311 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,800 Speaker 1: delayed obviously because of the end of this game, and 1312 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:03,320 Speaker 1: somebody walks buy and goes nine touchdowns. Wow, that's like 1313 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 1: four more than Kurk curb Street had in his whole career. 1314 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 1: And then they just walked away, and I was like, oh, 1315 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 1: we got to unnecessary shot Kurk curb Street like he 1316 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 1: did he had Kirk curb Street's career in this game, 1317 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 1: he doubled it. Um. I just I don't know that 1318 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 1: Anthony Gordon thing is. You know, obviously Mike Leach made 1319 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 1: the right choice there. Um is this team who they 1320 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,600 Speaker 1: were in the first two and two thirds quarters? Or 1321 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,840 Speaker 1: are they the team that gave up fifty points in 1322 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 1: twenty one minutes? Um? And who is U c l A. 1323 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 1: Everything I know about football really really got confused by 1324 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 1: the end of this game because I didn't know what 1325 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 1: to say. And you know, I picked U c l 1326 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,040 Speaker 1: A to go to one and eleven this year. So 1327 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,599 Speaker 1: like at the end of this game, I was like, Man, 1328 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,640 Speaker 1: Washington State does not deserve to win. And then at 1329 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 1: the same time, I was like, oh, but if you 1330 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,640 Speaker 1: c l A wins, it can't win the rest of 1331 01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the season. I look stupid. So I was like, this 1332 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,800 Speaker 1: is why I don't make predictions. Um, what do you 1333 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,680 Speaker 1: say about this scheme? I don't think this game was 1334 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 1: I think something broke, like there was just a glitch 1335 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 1: in the matrix and all of a sudden everything was well, 1336 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,200 Speaker 1: here is the problem is. I was watching it live 1337 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:17,320 Speaker 1: on tele television Beth Mowins, and I think Anthony Beck 1338 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 1: was on the game too. Uh. They were like, oh, 1339 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're gonna take out Anthony Gordon now, 1340 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,639 Speaker 1: and it with six minutes to go in the third quarter. 1341 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're gonna take him out, you know, 1342 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, because if he's gonna get a chance to 1343 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 1: break the record or not, because at that point in 1344 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,519 Speaker 1: time he had seven touchdown passes. And they were like 1345 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 1: and they were like, well they might u c l 1346 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: A they go down to score. And my wife asked me, 1347 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 1: She said, because who's the u c l a A A Lum. 1348 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 1: She was like, are they gonna take him out? I 1349 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 1: was like, no, it's way too early, because anything can happen. 1350 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,839 Speaker 1: U c l A scores, then they get a turnover. 1351 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 1: U c l A scores. I'm like, oh, this is interesting. 1352 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,920 Speaker 1: I think they scored like four out of five straight 1353 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 1: put possessions and Watchington State scored one in between, and 1354 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my lord, if they scored one 1355 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,599 Speaker 1: more touchdown, this is a game. Then all of a sudden, 1356 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 1: you and then when they ran the punt back and 1357 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 1: took the lead, she was yelling running through the house, 1358 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,880 Speaker 1: baby said, baby sleeping. And then then that pissed me 1359 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 1: off because I was like, let me he got this 1360 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 1: excited and mess around and woke up the baby. How 1361 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 1: would you have been acting by I mean, this was 1362 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 1: a game for the ages. Demetric Felton number ten for 1363 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 1: U c l A. Absolutely amazing. He's he doubles as 1364 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:40,719 Speaker 1: a running back, he's a receiver. Joshua Kelly was really good. 1365 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,840 Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson. His confidence looks hi like he has 1366 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,599 Speaker 1: not played with this much confidence at any point in time, 1367 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if a light came on for him. Yeah, 1368 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, we also need you do need to 1369 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 1: point out that this U c l A defense came 1370 01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 1: up sixty three. Um, so it doesn't matter how confident 1371 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,479 Speaker 1: Duran Thompson Robinson is. You know, the future is still 1372 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 1: bleak for this U c l A team if they 1373 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 1: can't stop anybody. But if they can hang they could 1374 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 1: be really exciting, especially if they're just gonna let it 1375 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,240 Speaker 1: all hang loose the way that they did at the 1376 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,160 Speaker 1: end of last night's game. Again, I don't have any 1377 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,360 Speaker 1: proper analysis. Yeah, yeah, what do you what what do 1378 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 1: you think about Chip going for it on fourth down? 1379 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 1: I loved it that. This is the first time to 1380 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 1: me he looked like he was having some fun in 1381 01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 1: a long time. I like that. I like seeing that 1382 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: from Chip. He looked like he enjoyed the game. Um. 1383 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,240 Speaker 1: You know when he almost called that time out at 1384 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:39,599 Speaker 1: the end of the game and they ended up scoring 1385 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown because he didn't, Oh that was that was 1386 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 1: one of the coolest things to watch, just him celebrate 1387 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Um. But yeah, I don't know. I 1388 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,719 Speaker 1: don't know what to say. I still feel like Washington 1389 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,800 Speaker 1: State is a much better team than U c l A, 1390 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 1: Like much better team than U. S A. But this happened, 1391 01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,840 Speaker 1: so what I don't know what to do. This is 1392 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Oh my good U c l a defense. This is 1393 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,280 Speaker 1: not a t you say that, like, yeah, they can 1394 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 1: compete to win the Pack twel South, but like at 1395 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,760 Speaker 1: sixty seven to sixty three. Every week when they play Colorado, 1396 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,360 Speaker 1: oh my gonna the score is gonna look just like this. 1397 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,679 Speaker 1: But next week they play at Arizona and they take 1398 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 1: this show back on the road and beat up on 1399 01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 1: your on your Arizona Wildcat Amson's I could not. I'm 1400 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 1: gonna go oh that, I think that I would know. 1401 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,360 Speaker 1: I have to see it if if if they're if 1402 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:35,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like this, then I gotta see it 1403 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,560 Speaker 1: in person. I gotta see the DTR versus there. We 1404 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 1: win their second game, you need to be there. I 1405 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 1: want to. I do want to congratulate Cliltate on not 1406 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:53,920 Speaker 1: throwing any interceptions because they didn't play okay. So to 1407 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 1: finish up the Pack twelve Power Reggas today, we're gonna 1408 01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 1: finish up with the Pack twelve Power rankings today. I'll 1409 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 1: let you get started. Ralph oh Man, you ever hand 1410 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 1: in a test that you definitely did not study for, 1411 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: and you just like as you're putting it down on 1412 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 1: the teacher's desk, You're like praying like I hope this 1413 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 1: is even, like I hope this doesn't ruin my whole 1414 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,920 Speaker 1: like great in this class. That's how I feel about 1415 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,680 Speaker 1: my power rankings this week, because I'm gonna yell at you, 1416 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 1: of course, like I want to yell at me, but 1417 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta right, we gotta pop quiz, I 1418 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 1: gotta fill it out. So um, I'll just give you 1419 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 1: the back half real quick, which is bad enough of itself. 1420 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:38,640 Speaker 1: I got Oregon State at twelve, Stanford at eleven, Arizona 1421 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,240 Speaker 1: at ten, U C l A at nine, Arizona State 1422 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 1: at eight, and Washington State at seven. Ralph, Ralph, you just, Ralph, 1423 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,040 Speaker 1: you just stop it right now, stop it right now. 1424 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 1: This is just when I did not think that you 1425 01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 1: could do anything worth Just when I think that you 1426 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 1: cannot make a worse power ranking, you come back and 1427 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:12,320 Speaker 1: totally redeem yourself with your top with your first minded 1428 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 1: are exactly the same. I got Oregon State twelve, Stanford eleven, 1429 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 1: Arizona ten U C l A nine. Even though that 1430 01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,920 Speaker 1: was a big win, they still have not shown it. 1431 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 1: But if they beat Arizona next week, they're gonna shoot 1432 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 1: up the power rank Because I'm telling you, they may 1433 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 1: they may be in the top, in the top five, 1434 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 1: because this is the team that's gonna win the factor 1435 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 1: of South. Um. And then I got Arizona State at 1436 01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:44,840 Speaker 1: eight and Washington State, the Cougars who cooped it up 1437 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 1: last night. And mind you, they're fans who were demanding 1438 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:53,559 Speaker 1: we deserve respect with the number one offense in the country. Yeah, 1439 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,519 Speaker 1: but you hadn't played anybody. And don't tell me Houston 1440 01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:01,000 Speaker 1: because Houston just lost two. Yeah, he was just lost 1441 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 1: somebody bad. So yeah, yes, guess what, you got less 1442 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,760 Speaker 1: credits than you thought you did. All right? Who you 1443 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 1: got bringing in your last six? Well, I'll give you 1444 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,200 Speaker 1: my last six. But I do want to point out 1445 01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,519 Speaker 1: that one of the reasons that I couldn't bring myself 1446 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,680 Speaker 1: to elevate u c l A over Washington State was 1447 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,600 Speaker 1: San Diego State took a home loss to Utah State yesterday. 1448 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,360 Speaker 1: So like even U c l A's losses, they're looking 1449 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:27,080 Speaker 1: ridiculous at this point. Um. Alright, so at number six, 1450 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:32,840 Speaker 1: I've got Colorado. I feel pretty good about that. But 1451 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,840 Speaker 1: I feel like just without them being able to play 1452 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,160 Speaker 1: any defense they have, they really have a chance for 1453 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,679 Speaker 1: the bottom to fall out the way it did last season, 1454 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,639 Speaker 1: especially if they're gonna miss Lavisca for an extended period 1455 01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 1: of time. I mean, they lost like five players on 1456 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball in last night's game. 1457 01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 1: If any of those are extended absences, they could be 1458 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:55,080 Speaker 1: in huge trouble. Utah at number five UM just because 1459 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 1: and this is weird that he's the only time I'm 1460 01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 1: employing this logic, but you kind of have to have 1461 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,240 Speaker 1: them below USC at this point when the third string 1462 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,200 Speaker 1: quarterback goes out there and throws all over you. Um, 1463 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,280 Speaker 1: you taught what I think. I had him at number 1464 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,960 Speaker 1: one last week, So it's a big drop for them. 1465 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 1: I still feel like they might be able to to 1466 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,280 Speaker 1: do some serious damage and not run the table. I 1467 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,600 Speaker 1: do think they'll lose a couple more times, UM, But 1468 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,840 Speaker 1: I I think that USC is firmly in the driver's 1469 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 1: seat for the Pack twelve South, which is why I 1470 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 1: have them in the number four spot. It'll be interesting 1471 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,679 Speaker 1: to see what they do at quarterback because that Keaton 1472 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,000 Speaker 1: Slovis injury looked pretty serious at the time. It might 1473 01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 1: be time to just roll with Matt think and see 1474 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:37,120 Speaker 1: if he can handle this on his own. UM number three, 1475 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 1: I have Cal because while they did put together a 1476 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,799 Speaker 1: pretty complete performance um against ole Miss, and by complete 1477 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean well they threw the ball and played defense, 1478 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 1: they did not run the ball well. Washington State put 1479 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:55,840 Speaker 1: together a dominant performance in every single facet against the 1480 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,760 Speaker 1: b y U team that has beat USC. So I 1481 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,960 Speaker 1: have Washington at two out at three, and Oregon is 1482 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,560 Speaker 1: firmly now in the driver's seat at number one for 1483 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 1: me in my Power twel my pack twell Power twelve rankings. Uh, 1484 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 1: like I'm growing tired, bro, I'm growing tired because you 1485 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,680 Speaker 1: you you mean like Washington. You mean like Washington was 1486 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,200 Speaker 1: growing tired when they had to play it three in 1487 01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 1: the morning against Cal. That kind of tired. That's when 1488 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 1: you play the game. Okay, So I'll go through my 1489 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 1: know we talk about what do we say Cal plays 1490 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,639 Speaker 1: good early in the morning, And that was an early 1491 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:38,120 Speaker 1: morning game for Cal at Washington. They were the morning 1492 01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,160 Speaker 1: when these kids getting aroun You are doubling down on 1493 01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 1: faulty logic and you know this. So my six, five 1494 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,759 Speaker 1: and four are exactly as yours. Colorado, Utah and USC. 1495 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how on earth that you even considered 1496 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,880 Speaker 1: leaving Utah ahead of USC. I don't even know how 1497 01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,360 Speaker 1: you even. I didn't. I didn't, I didn't. I said that. 1498 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 1: I said that, there's no way that I could when 1499 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:08,360 Speaker 1: a third string quarterback and string quarterback, any string quarterback. 1500 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,560 Speaker 1: It could have been first string, second string, no string. 1501 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,640 Speaker 1: They just beat them, then you they have to and 1502 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 1: they were three and they have won three games. They 1503 01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,200 Speaker 1: have to go in front of them. Um, Washington number three, 1504 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,600 Speaker 1: dominant performance at b y U. But the fact that 1505 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,759 Speaker 1: and cow it number two, Oregon at number one, those 1506 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 1: two are clear and obvious. How if like you are 1507 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:42,519 Speaker 1: perpetuating like bad power ranking, math, bad logic, faulty logic, 1508 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,479 Speaker 1: like there, what do you have against cal they are doing? 1509 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:50,160 Speaker 1: If they are jumping through every single possible who you 1510 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,760 Speaker 1: said their offense was was bad? Chase Garbers can't throw 1511 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,519 Speaker 1: the football. He goes out and throws the football against 1512 01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,560 Speaker 1: oh Miss. They play on the road and win and 1513 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:04,200 Speaker 1: and play play well, and then they beat Washington. Two 1514 01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago, they beat Washington for the second year in 1515 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 1: a row. They held him to twelve points, I'm sorry, 1516 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,000 Speaker 1: held them the ten points two years ago. And last 1517 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,639 Speaker 1: week two weeks ago they held him under twenty points 1518 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 1: again and you're gonna sit here and tell me that 1519 01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 1: Washington is better. They're not better, Ralph, They're not better. 1520 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,719 Speaker 1: Please make it stop. Like we're gonna have to send 1521 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,640 Speaker 1: you to an intervention. Either that or I think that 1522 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,840 Speaker 1: you're gaslighting me. I think that you're doing this whole 1523 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,960 Speaker 1: purpose you're trying to make up. I feel I feel 1524 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 1: better about Washington against USC than I do about Cal 1525 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,640 Speaker 1: against Arizona State. For the freshman quarterback, Washington dominated b 1526 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,719 Speaker 1: y U with a backup five ft six running back. 1527 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,840 Speaker 1: In a game where b YU got an extra touchdown 1528 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,280 Speaker 1: and extra touchdown, it was already a dominant performance b 1529 01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,759 Speaker 1: y You got an extra touchdown because of Washington defensive 1530 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,360 Speaker 1: basically like handed it to Matt Bushman. So like I don't. 1531 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,960 Speaker 1: They destroyed b y U in provo. That is not 1532 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,559 Speaker 1: something that most of the other teams in the Pact 1533 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,840 Speaker 1: twelve could even imagine doing. One bad night and one 1534 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:21,800 Speaker 1: made field goal does not make one team better the 1535 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,400 Speaker 1: the other team has won all their games. Yes it does. 1536 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,760 Speaker 1: It's different if Cal had dropped a gamer too. I 1537 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,160 Speaker 1: get it. I could understand your logic. Cow has jumped 1538 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 1: through who's better equipped, who's better equipped to take on Oregon, 1539 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,719 Speaker 1: a team that can score the team the Cow clearly 1540 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,400 Speaker 1: because because because Washington can't play against good defenses, and 1541 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 1: Organ's defense might be better than Cow's defense. So what 1542 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,640 Speaker 1: do you think is gonna happen in Washington? Then? I 1543 01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:52,479 Speaker 1: just like getting you to talk about which of these 1544 01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 1: two teams. Neither one of them is gonna beat Oregon? 1545 01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,599 Speaker 1: So hold up, what is the fact that you hate 1546 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,920 Speaker 1: Cow so much? Apparently? I don't hate Cal. They are 1547 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,599 Speaker 1: my second favorite fan base in all of I do 1548 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:10,800 Speaker 1: not I think Washington is a better Why are you 1549 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 1: have data? You have a head to head that's like 1550 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 1: people that's like Alabama fans saying that they were better 1551 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: than Clemson last year. They repeatedly said it after the 1552 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:24,759 Speaker 1: National championship. Are you that person? You get your assho 1553 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,479 Speaker 1: up and then and then you're like, oh, never, never mind, 1554 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,680 Speaker 1: We're still better. It was a few goal, George, So 1555 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 1: what is a few goal at two in the morning? 1556 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,880 Speaker 1: Oh my lord, dude, So what does so if Cal 1557 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 1: blows the doors off of your Arizona State Sun Devils 1558 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,080 Speaker 1: and Washington plays a close game with USC, will you 1559 01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 1: then give them the credit that they deserve? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 1560 01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 1: absolutely lies lies. I'll see it with I'll believe it 1561 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,439 Speaker 1: when I see you guys. Thank you guys for joining 1562 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,720 Speaker 1: us for the Pack twelve Apostles podcast. Make sure that 1563 01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 1: you guys share the feed. Tell friend about the Unafraid show. 1564 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 1: I know I said two weird old things that Ralphin 1565 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,639 Speaker 1: is probably laughing at during the podcast where we're gonna 1566 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,960 Speaker 1: use those for the giveaway, So you guys have to 1567 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,960 Speaker 1: be paying very close attention to the podcast. We appreciate 1568 01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,679 Speaker 1: your time, appreciate your energy. Peace out. Catch you on Thursday. 1569 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. M