WEBVTT - Natalia Lafourcade 0:00:15.476 --> 0:00:24.556 Pushkin. Natalia la Forcade is a force as well here 0:00:24.596 --> 0:00:27.516 when she sings during our conversation today. She has a 0:00:27.636 --> 0:00:31.396 gorgeous voice, but she's also a deaft songwriter who's able 0:00:31.436 --> 0:00:34.596 to weave together traditions that feel both modern and old 0:00:34.716 --> 0:00:39.676 at once. And she's also a beautiful interpreter of song. Take, 0:00:39.716 --> 0:00:42.356 for instance, the phenomenon that was the song remember Me 0:00:42.436 --> 0:00:46.396 from Pixar's film Coco, or take the many instances where 0:00:46.436 --> 0:00:49.676 she's recorded some of the classic songs from across Latin America, 0:00:50.156 --> 0:00:53.716 performing songs by greats like Violet Tapada from Chile and 0:00:53.916 --> 0:00:57.876 Augustine Lata from Natalia's home state of Vera Cruz, Mexico. 0:00:58.756 --> 0:01:02.276 After spending the last seven years interpreting those masters, Natalia 0:01:02.276 --> 0:01:05.636 has released De TOAs Las Flores, her first album of 0:01:05.676 --> 0:01:09.996 originals since twenty fifteen. The songs are very much inspired 0:01:09.996 --> 0:01:12.276 by where she's at in life now, but you can 0:01:12.316 --> 0:01:15.036 hear her reverence for the classics still in these songs. 0:01:15.916 --> 0:01:18.316 When Italia came by leda Snag a Grammy a couple 0:01:18.356 --> 0:01:20.436 of months ago for her new album, I made a 0:01:20.516 --> 0:01:23.156 point of stopping by her label offices that Sony to 0:01:23.196 --> 0:01:25.676 have a chat with her. We discussed evolution of her 0:01:25.756 --> 0:01:28.676 artistry over the last twenty five years, the time a 0:01:28.796 --> 0:01:31.676 Hummingbird inspired her to move past the creative rut, and 0:01:31.756 --> 0:01:34.596 how the logistical challenges of recording her latest album to 0:01:34.676 --> 0:01:38.476 tape wound up creating an urgency that ultimately fueled the 0:01:38.516 --> 0:01:44.676 creative process. This is broken record liner notes for the 0:01:44.676 --> 0:01:48.716 digital Age. I'm Justin Ritchman. In continuation of our month 0:01:48.756 --> 0:01:52.396 long celebration of Women's History Month, here's my conversation with 0:01:52.636 --> 0:01:56.156 Natalia La Fricade. When did you start playing guitar? 0:01:57.036 --> 0:02:02.116 I started playing when I was fourteen years old, probably 0:02:02.996 --> 0:02:07.276 around that, very very little. I was very very little. 0:02:07.396 --> 0:02:12.756 Fourteen is actually when I you started playing? Yes, okay? 0:02:12.956 --> 0:02:14.116 And how come I. 0:02:14.236 --> 0:02:17.036 Wanted to join a band? Yeah? 0:02:17.116 --> 0:02:19.476 I didn't want to join a band. I didn't think 0:02:19.476 --> 0:02:19.916 about it. 0:02:19.996 --> 0:02:20.196 You know. 0:02:20.516 --> 0:02:24.116 My mother and I moved in to another apartment that 0:02:24.276 --> 0:02:28.276 was my aunt, and in the closet there was this 0:02:28.436 --> 0:02:32.956 guitar like with only three strings, and I took it. 0:02:33.796 --> 0:02:36.436 I didn't know how to play, but I took it, 0:02:37.036 --> 0:02:41.036 and then I started writing songs with three strings. With 0:02:41.276 --> 0:02:44.116 strings I to remember, I think it was. 0:02:45.996 --> 0:02:47.436 Okay, the three top strings. 0:02:48.436 --> 0:02:55.636 Yeah, yeah. So I started writing songs that I don't 0:02:56.116 --> 0:03:00.356 remember obviously, and then one day I told I said 0:03:00.396 --> 0:03:04.796 to my mother, I want to learn guitar. So I 0:03:04.916 --> 0:03:08.716 was having somebody helping me with the rest of the strings. 0:03:09.516 --> 0:03:13.076 And I had this boyfriend that was playing a lot 0:03:13.076 --> 0:03:17.436 of you Doo song. OK, so he was giving me 0:03:17.836 --> 0:03:21.596 those three chords of that are in many of the 0:03:21.716 --> 0:03:25.236 music and the songs, and that's how I started. Then 0:03:25.276 --> 0:03:30.316 I had my first guitar that was jammaha, very very 0:03:30.356 --> 0:03:34.956 hard to play it. It was metal strings for me 0:03:35.036 --> 0:03:38.996 that was really really hard. And then when I was sixteen, 0:03:39.556 --> 0:03:41.556 I went into the school and I said like, okay, 0:03:41.596 --> 0:03:45.876 I'm gonna take real classes. So I was trying. Then 0:03:45.956 --> 0:03:50.916 I got something you know when you ah yeah, So 0:03:51.236 --> 0:03:55.076 I have to operate it. And it took a long 0:03:55.156 --> 0:03:57.116 time to go back to the guitar, and I was 0:03:57.236 --> 0:04:00.316 just learning myself by myself, you know, with my friends. 0:04:01.196 --> 0:04:04.356 I didn't have a teacher really in guitar. It was 0:04:04.716 --> 0:04:08.396 my friends telling me chords and ways. 0:04:08.596 --> 0:04:11.676 When you're guitar, did you have songs in your head 0:04:11.676 --> 0:04:14.156 that you wanted to sound like or artists that you 0:04:14.196 --> 0:04:14.996 wanted to sound like? 0:04:16.196 --> 0:04:22.636 Yeah, of course, like I had those references of Brazilian 0:04:22.716 --> 0:04:27.156 music most of the time. You know. There was a 0:04:27.276 --> 0:04:30.556 friend in school that I remember, that's the first person 0:04:30.716 --> 0:04:34.116 I asked. I said, like, I'm trying to learn the 0:04:34.196 --> 0:04:38.076 chords of the guitar, but they're doing the whole finger 0:04:38.316 --> 0:04:40.356 for me is just too hard. I don't have the 0:04:40.436 --> 0:04:43.916 force my fingers are. They don't get used to this. 0:04:44.796 --> 0:04:48.076 Do you have any chords? It's a lot of from 0:04:48.076 --> 0:04:52.076 the intuition the way I play guitar. But I was 0:04:52.116 --> 0:04:55.916 asking this friend, do you have any chords that is 0:04:56.156 --> 0:05:01.316 easy to do? And it sounds very fancy, like very 0:05:02.156 --> 0:05:06.316 like wow, she knows very well what she's doing. So 0:05:06.396 --> 0:05:09.116 I want to I want to write songs, I said, 0:05:09.836 --> 0:05:13.836 But I don't want to go just to the those 0:05:13.956 --> 0:05:17.716 course that everyone uses, like just the minor on the 0:05:17.756 --> 0:05:21.316 major court. No, no, no, I want aha. I want this 0:05:21.476 --> 0:05:26.036 to sound like more interesting. So he was saying like, 0:05:26.556 --> 0:05:28.996 I'm going to give you some Brazilian course like from 0:05:29.036 --> 0:05:34.676 Bosanova and that music, so you can go and play this. 0:05:35.156 --> 0:05:39.556 It's going to be simple for you. And then he 0:05:39.756 --> 0:05:43.796 was showing me music Alyssis on my Little Regina Kaetanvelo 0:05:44.036 --> 0:05:52.356 so Gio Gilberto, those kind of musicians that I fall 0:05:52.436 --> 0:05:57.076 in love a lot of Brazilian music. So it became 0:05:57.636 --> 0:06:02.916 because of this, in a way, does Bosanova way or 0:06:03.076 --> 0:06:08.556 Brazilian way of playing became a very strong way for 0:06:08.676 --> 0:06:16.796 me to fine songs and music. He was giving me discords, 0:06:17.756 --> 0:06:21.196 you know, so he was saying like, if you play this, 0:06:21.356 --> 0:06:26.276 it's really easy and you can go. You can go 0:06:26.396 --> 0:06:30.036 from everywhere like in the guitar, and it's gonna be 0:06:30.036 --> 0:06:33.716 easy for your fingers. And then he was giving me 0:06:33.836 --> 0:06:44.116 like the So that was my first approach to writing songs. 0:06:44.196 --> 0:06:47.396 So I was writing like a song which is called Elephants, 0:06:47.556 --> 0:07:00.276 Elephants and ketto goos card conao los elephanto sab cato 0:07:00.476 --> 0:07:11.716 coming in Sabados. Isn't the laden Now that's possible. So 0:07:11.876 --> 0:07:14.556 that was really easy for me to do. But it 0:07:14.636 --> 0:07:18.356 sounded like wow. I remember the label saying like, oh, 0:07:19.116 --> 0:07:22.116 that song is really beautiful. But for me it was simple, 0:07:22.716 --> 0:07:26.916 more simple with my fingers and my strength. 0:07:27.476 --> 0:07:30.276 That was on your first record, right, yeah, yeah, right, yeah. 0:07:30.356 --> 0:07:32.236 It did seem like there was a lot of those 0:07:32.396 --> 0:07:37.556 Basonova rhythms, like you would hear them every so often 0:07:37.596 --> 0:07:39.836 in the first I don't know, like and actually a 0:07:39.916 --> 0:07:41.716 lot of your music still. 0:07:41.956 --> 0:07:47.916 Still still even the last album going through very I mean, 0:07:48.076 --> 0:07:52.356 for me, folk music from Latino America has become a 0:07:52.516 --> 0:07:57.076 very important part of my inspiration and the way I 0:07:57.116 --> 0:08:01.396 write songs to find my own voice like that, that 0:08:01.476 --> 0:08:05.516 has been very important for me. But the Brazilian way, 0:08:05.596 --> 0:08:09.196 I don't know why. It keeps going through the songs 0:08:09.236 --> 0:08:11.396 in a way that I don't even know why, but 0:08:11.676 --> 0:08:14.796 it is there, like their songs in the last album 0:08:14.836 --> 0:08:22.436 that have that it's antio and I'm sorry, but but 0:08:22.676 --> 0:08:26.436 I have I have those two ways. I don't know, 0:08:26.596 --> 0:08:27.876 it's still there. 0:08:28.356 --> 0:08:31.236 That's amazing. Yeah, and you got to work with Gilberto 0:08:31.356 --> 0:08:33.476 Jill right yeah. 0:08:33.436 --> 0:08:37.796 But long long ago, you know that was for that 0:08:37.916 --> 0:08:44.116 wasna like singing those beautiful songs by Augustina la Farolito. 0:08:45.236 --> 0:08:49.036 It's beautiful and also like I was singing, I don't 0:08:49.076 --> 0:08:53.876 remember the song that I that I interpreted in the 0:08:53.916 --> 0:08:56.956 person when he was Person of the Year at Latin 0:08:56.996 --> 0:09:01.076 Grammy long ago, like twenty years ago or something like that. 0:09:01.636 --> 0:09:02.836 I was very little. 0:09:02.956 --> 0:09:04.756 You performed the song of Latin Grammy. 0:09:04.916 --> 0:09:06.916 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was for him, like he was 0:09:06.916 --> 0:09:10.996 there for me. It was like dream because I admire 0:09:11.076 --> 0:09:14.116 him so much, and then they were asking me to 0:09:14.156 --> 0:09:18.476 go there and play for him, so it was really beautiful. 0:09:18.916 --> 0:09:20.756 How did you get to get him on your record? 0:09:21.796 --> 0:09:26.636 And then for Moher Divina, we got in touch with 0:09:26.756 --> 0:09:30.676 his team and he was open to do that. He 0:09:30.756 --> 0:09:34.276 knew about me. I was impressed by that because obviously 0:09:34.516 --> 0:09:37.836 I thought, of course he's not gonna remember, and that's 0:09:37.876 --> 0:09:41.956 fine because he's Jilbert to Jill. But there was this 0:09:42.036 --> 0:09:44.596 concert in Mexico City and I went there with my 0:09:44.716 --> 0:09:47.916 friend Queso, which is also one of the persons that 0:09:48.156 --> 0:09:51.676 was teaching me a lot of Brasilian music, and we 0:09:51.716 --> 0:09:54.316 went to this concert and then I get to say 0:09:54.476 --> 0:09:56.836 hello to Gilbert and he was like, hey, you know, 0:09:58.156 --> 0:10:02.956 how are you. I can't believe he remains my name. 0:10:03.036 --> 0:10:07.036 He knows my name. And then years after that, he 0:10:07.116 --> 0:10:10.676 was willing to do the song with me. 0:10:11.316 --> 0:10:13.076 Were you in the studio with them or did you know? 0:10:13.516 --> 0:10:16.596 Really that was ah, that was in the distance. I 0:10:16.636 --> 0:10:20.156 hope it was like that. Yeah, yeah, m m man. 0:10:20.196 --> 0:10:21.716 I was hoping you got to be in the studio 0:10:21.756 --> 0:10:22.076 with them. 0:10:22.676 --> 0:10:25.756 Imagine that. Yeah, And then years later I got to 0:10:26.036 --> 0:10:28.676 do the same Person of the Year and sing for 0:10:28.796 --> 0:10:33.956 Kaetano Veloso. So that was also for me, like I can. 0:10:34.196 --> 0:10:37.396 It was librous and yeah, I was able to sing 0:10:37.436 --> 0:10:41.476 to him as well. I think they both are a 0:10:41.556 --> 0:10:44.196 dream for me, you know, like to get to to 0:10:44.236 --> 0:10:46.756 play together. It might be possible. 0:10:47.076 --> 0:10:52.116 Who knows, I would love that it. So Brazilian music 0:10:52.556 --> 0:10:55.476 was like kind of the first maybe besides pop music. 0:10:55.756 --> 0:10:57.996 It was the first like music that you really dove 0:10:58.036 --> 0:10:59.316 into many. 0:10:59.396 --> 0:11:04.036 Many different changes and types of music. Really, you know. 0:11:04.156 --> 0:11:07.436 I remember the first album that I bought with my 0:11:07.596 --> 0:11:13.716 money was the debut album by Bjork and Those Mama's 0:11:13.756 --> 0:11:18.876 Gone by Erica Vadu, Jammy Kwuai with Traveling Without Moving, 0:11:19.276 --> 0:11:23.796 those kind of albums. That was the music I listened. 0:11:23.916 --> 0:11:28.156 And I was young and starting to have my own 0:11:28.356 --> 0:11:32.116 taste in music, you know, like when you're like I 0:11:32.156 --> 0:11:34.596 am listening to this and my headphones and I like it, 0:11:34.636 --> 0:11:37.316 and I don't care if nobody else is liking this music. 0:11:37.476 --> 0:11:40.716 I feel connected to do this for some reason because 0:11:40.756 --> 0:11:44.996 I didn't understand the words and the lyrics on those songs. 0:11:45.116 --> 0:11:49.436 I was just a music connection to those musics. My 0:11:49.596 --> 0:11:52.996 parents are musicians and the music I was listening at 0:11:52.996 --> 0:11:58.316 home with mainly classical music, sometimes poletros that my mother 0:11:58.516 --> 0:12:02.636 liked a lot, many different changes of music, jo Letta Bara, 0:12:02.956 --> 0:12:06.316 those kinds of music. So then I started listening to 0:12:07.236 --> 0:12:10.916 new things in the school. I remember the first time 0:12:10.956 --> 0:12:14.636 I heard Billie Holiday and I was like, wow, this 0:12:14.756 --> 0:12:18.116 is totally another thing, like I love this, And then 0:12:18.156 --> 0:12:22.276 I went through Elaficierro, Nina Simon. I was listening to 0:12:22.396 --> 0:12:26.276 Johnny Mitchell. I remember, like that cassette of Blue that 0:12:26.396 --> 0:12:29.556 my friend gave me, and I was like, oh, I 0:12:29.596 --> 0:12:32.876 can't believe this. This is really Tori Amos, PG Harvey, 0:12:33.196 --> 0:12:36.116 you know Apple. I was getting into those kind of 0:12:36.156 --> 0:12:41.276 things by my friends showing me that music because that 0:12:41.436 --> 0:12:46.796 wasn't in my background from my childhood or nowhere really 0:12:47.356 --> 0:12:49.716 radio Head, I don't know, I was listening to that. 0:12:50.956 --> 0:12:54.556 It has been changing. Then I was more curious about like, 0:12:55.476 --> 0:12:58.436 wait a minute, I want to hear what's in Mexico, 0:12:58.516 --> 0:12:59.516 what's in my country? 0:12:59.676 --> 0:13:01.756 When did that happen? Because it seems at some point 0:13:02.076 --> 0:13:06.596 and maybe around Moorhead, that that's when that happened. 0:13:06.796 --> 0:13:09.716 Yeah, you know, I was left in that for one 0:13:09.796 --> 0:13:13.676 year almost and I was very close to say I'm 0:13:13.676 --> 0:13:16.396 not going back to Mexico. And it was the time 0:13:16.476 --> 0:13:20.396 I was not having a good moment in terms of 0:13:21.116 --> 0:13:24.916 my career, like I didn't know what I really wanted 0:13:24.996 --> 0:13:27.436 to do. For a moment, I was like, I don't 0:13:27.436 --> 0:13:29.396 want to do this anymore. This is not for me. 0:13:29.636 --> 0:13:31.996 What caused that, I think it was that I was 0:13:32.116 --> 0:13:37.036 very young. I was eighteen when I released my first album, 0:13:37.596 --> 0:13:42.196 and then everything happened fast, and for me, it was 0:13:42.356 --> 0:13:45.876 just too much information. And then I decided to have 0:13:45.916 --> 0:13:49.916 a band, and that was for me a lot, you know, 0:13:50.036 --> 0:13:53.636 because I had so many things that I wanted to 0:13:54.116 --> 0:14:00.516 explore in music. But then it seemed that everything was 0:14:00.556 --> 0:14:04.996 already taken by everyone around me. You know, it wasn't 0:14:05.756 --> 0:14:09.556 my decisions or it wasn't the way I wanted to be. 0:14:10.356 --> 0:14:12.676 But I was doing that for so long that I 0:14:12.756 --> 0:14:16.636 got very far, you know, from knowing what I wanted 0:14:16.996 --> 0:14:21.076 and how I wanted the music to sound. Like for me, 0:14:21.116 --> 0:14:23.956 it was like I need to go far, far from home, 0:14:23.996 --> 0:14:27.356 and I need to go to a place where nobody 0:14:27.396 --> 0:14:30.836 will know my name and I don't know how to 0:14:30.916 --> 0:14:34.356 speak that language, and I will need to learn and 0:14:34.396 --> 0:14:38.196 I will be free. It will be my time and 0:14:38.716 --> 0:14:41.676 no more music. But I ended up because of my 0:14:41.756 --> 0:14:44.876 friends in the house full of musicians and they were 0:14:44.916 --> 0:14:46.636 playing a lot of blues. 0:14:47.156 --> 0:14:48.036 This is in Canada. 0:14:48.156 --> 0:14:51.956 This is in Canada. So I got to listen to 0:14:52.036 --> 0:14:55.876 all the genes in music and to be surrendered by 0:14:56.156 --> 0:15:01.236 that vibe, you know, of a lot of musicians around me, 0:15:01.396 --> 0:15:04.756 and that was beautiful for me. It helped me to 0:15:04.876 --> 0:15:10.116 go back into music. And then I was writing. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:10.156 --> 0:15:13.156 but I stopped the music for like three months or 0:15:13.156 --> 0:15:18.556 something like that. I wasn't playing anything. There was piano, guitars, 0:15:18.716 --> 0:15:23.916 any instrument, drums, anything, and I didn't touch anything. I 0:15:23.956 --> 0:15:27.396 was just like trying to recover my soul. I think 0:15:27.436 --> 0:15:29.516 it was the thing of the soul and the heart. 0:15:30.676 --> 0:15:32.756 And then there was one day I sat on the 0:15:32.756 --> 0:15:37.596 piano and I started playing this instrumental album which is 0:15:37.636 --> 0:15:41.476 called The Four Seasons of Love that it isn't even 0:15:41.516 --> 0:15:45.156 in Spotify. It was just for a period of time there, 0:15:45.276 --> 0:15:48.556 I'm gonna put it there. But that was the music 0:15:48.596 --> 0:15:52.596 that was coming. Has not lyrics but alwa, it's just music. 0:15:53.276 --> 0:15:57.036 So that was yes, I did, but it was the 0:15:57.116 --> 0:16:00.596 only album that I own my master But I was 0:16:00.596 --> 0:16:04.036 telling the label in Mexico because they, of course imagine 0:16:04.676 --> 0:16:08.316 I was solo artists. But then I say like, I 0:16:08.396 --> 0:16:11.116 want a band, and they were like, but how a 0:16:11.196 --> 0:16:13.676 band like your solo artist? No, no, no, I want 0:16:13.676 --> 0:16:15.276 my band. And then I said like, no, I don't 0:16:15.316 --> 0:16:18.036 want anything. I'm going to Canada. And then I go 0:16:18.116 --> 0:16:19.876 back to Mexico and I'm like, okay, I'm going to 0:16:19.956 --> 0:16:22.956 release an album, but there's no voice in the album. 0:16:23.036 --> 0:16:26.476 So the label is like, what what do you expect 0:16:26.596 --> 0:16:29.156 us to do with an album that doesn't have your voice? 0:16:29.196 --> 0:16:31.236 So I was like, I don't know, but I'm going 0:16:31.316 --> 0:16:34.636 to release those music. So for them it was like, okay, 0:16:34.676 --> 0:16:37.236 you do it and it's yours. You can do whatever 0:16:37.276 --> 0:16:39.956 you want with that music. And then I was doing 0:16:40.076 --> 0:16:44.716 my album back with my songs, so that was really 0:16:44.796 --> 0:16:48.556 good for me to go back to the songwriting. But 0:16:48.756 --> 0:16:52.516 at that moment, I realized that there was something missing 0:16:52.756 --> 0:16:56.436 to connect to people. I was connecting in a way, 0:16:57.156 --> 0:16:59.796 but not the way I wanted to connect. You know, 0:16:59.876 --> 0:17:02.916 I want to tell you I just wanted to have 0:17:03.036 --> 0:17:08.836 something more how would you say it? To very simple 0:17:09.156 --> 0:17:17.116 language through music that connects to people's feelings and. 0:17:17.196 --> 0:17:21.796 Make it release plain and simple note not complicated, because 0:17:21.796 --> 0:17:24.676 you have some lyrics that I mean, you know, almost 0:17:24.716 --> 0:17:26.316 like I want to compare to like it's all right 0:17:26.396 --> 0:17:28.356 mom only bleeding Bob Dylan, where it's like, you know, 0:17:28.356 --> 0:17:30.996 it's fast and like the words are quick. Yeah, a 0:17:31.036 --> 0:17:31.396 lot of. 0:17:31.396 --> 0:17:34.036 Verses yeah ahah, that's right, and. 0:17:33.996 --> 0:17:36.156 A lot of references sometimes to pop culture. 0:17:36.676 --> 0:17:40.796 Yeah. And I really wanted to make it pretty but 0:17:41.116 --> 0:17:49.276 simple quotio like just everyday language but poetry and something beautiful. 0:17:49.396 --> 0:17:53.076 But I felt like I need to learn I need 0:17:53.076 --> 0:17:57.436 to learn more about songwriting. So I was still louder. 0:17:57.516 --> 0:18:02.156 For me, it was like, Okay, this guy really has 0:18:02.956 --> 0:18:08.156 amazing music. It sounded so like Mexico, so like Vera Gruz. 0:18:09.476 --> 0:18:11.636 I don't know, I just fell in love so much 0:18:11.716 --> 0:18:12.476 with his music. 0:18:12.596 --> 0:18:14.916 Had you really listened to it before? I bet you 0:18:15.116 --> 0:18:15.836 heard it, but. 0:18:16.156 --> 0:18:20.556 Yes, because it's very famous songs from Augustine Lada, but 0:18:20.636 --> 0:18:24.116 not consciously about it, you know, like not really paying 0:18:24.156 --> 0:18:28.676 attention to the chords to music the way he moved 0:18:28.716 --> 0:18:29.876 through the music. 0:18:29.636 --> 0:18:29.876 You know. 0:18:30.996 --> 0:18:33.516 And I was trying to learn that on my guitar 0:18:33.556 --> 0:18:36.836 and I was like, wow, this is really a hard thing, 0:18:37.236 --> 0:18:40.676 Like it wasn't easy, you know, for me, but I 0:18:40.796 --> 0:18:44.316 learned a lot from his music, and then I was like, okay, 0:18:44.436 --> 0:18:48.276 I got to listen to Tonya la negra, you know, 0:18:48.436 --> 0:18:53.636 singing better, a tropical singing asul, those songs that for 0:18:53.756 --> 0:18:59.116 me sounded like listening to Eta James or like those 0:18:59.556 --> 0:19:03.916 beautiful music and standards that I heard in English before. 0:19:04.676 --> 0:19:07.356 But it was Spanish, and it was boletos and it 0:19:07.476 --> 0:19:10.836 was tango, and there was many dangers there that I 0:19:10.876 --> 0:19:14.396 would live. I can do this in Spanish. And then 0:19:14.436 --> 0:19:19.636 I just started like searching for more composers, great music 0:19:19.716 --> 0:19:20.476 and Spanish. 0:19:20.916 --> 0:19:22.556 Could you do a little bit of your version of 0:19:22.876 --> 0:19:26.556 Vera Cruz Acristinados. I think it's credited to his sister, but. 0:19:30.996 --> 0:19:43.996 You know, I see Colologne platu, you see pirata Nacio rumba, 0:19:47.156 --> 0:20:01.636 Vera's in vera Cruz, something like that, Vera Cruz ring 0:20:01.836 --> 0:20:10.436 consito dias and suniola soulas the it's a little loud 0:20:11.916 --> 0:20:20.356 Vera Cruz spellasi to the bartria kesavi so fri conta 0:20:23.116 --> 0:20:31.596 vera Cruz so to s notches Elu you're the straight Yes, 0:20:32.396 --> 0:20:47.676 PALMERI mo vera Cruz. Mm hmm, all Wanda tattoos, players 0:20:47.796 --> 0:20:55.636 like Hanna Standrekable something like that. It's beautiful, it's very passionate. 0:20:56.196 --> 0:21:06.236 That to you a s colon Plata. So it's more like, 0:21:06.636 --> 0:21:10.076 but I don't know, it's it's so the way we 0:21:10.156 --> 0:21:11.516 are in Mexico. 0:21:11.836 --> 0:21:15.276 So ah like that, right, especially maybe even more so 0:21:15.316 --> 0:21:16.756 in Vera Cruz right now. 0:21:16.876 --> 0:21:19.396 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't know, Like I 0:21:20.916 --> 0:21:24.076 really felt like I want to learn to do this. 0:21:24.836 --> 0:21:29.116 I want to learn to sing this music and and 0:21:29.276 --> 0:21:33.676 write this way in my way, in my universe and 0:21:33.716 --> 0:21:38.236 my approach, my own approach. I got really inspired by 0:21:38.276 --> 0:21:41.596 that music. And then I was able to listen to 0:21:41.836 --> 0:21:45.756 other composers that really affect me in a way, Like 0:21:45.836 --> 0:21:49.796 I was able to go back to Bile, go back 0:21:49.836 --> 0:21:54.756 to Simon DIA's like this, great composers from Venezuela. It 0:21:54.876 --> 0:21:57.436 helped me a lot to find my own way. 0:21:58.876 --> 0:22:00.396 We have to take a quick break and then we'll 0:22:00.396 --> 0:22:03.716 be back with more from a conversation with Natalia la Fricade. 0:22:08.116 --> 0:22:11.996 We're back with Nata Alla. Could I ask you also 0:22:11.996 --> 0:22:13.996 because Fioletta part is one of my favorite and one 0:22:13.996 --> 0:22:15.796 of my favorite songs from her. You did a version 0:22:15.836 --> 0:22:18.676 of always been one of my favorites is Kado. 0:22:20.676 --> 0:22:32.276 Let's see if you can remember the most beautiful lyrics. 0:22:28.716 --> 0:22:43.596 H Okay, that's somethime case coll okayllos those made almost 0:22:43.636 --> 0:22:51.876 who to your your cause, cola, no many of your 0:22:56.396 --> 0:23:03.316 dumbellows in the mood or something like that, call a 0:23:03.476 --> 0:23:12.796 comb Colando your came your to and estimoon your your 0:23:16.196 --> 0:23:32.956 Oh you case your yr Yo, plan amuson and bot 0:23:33.076 --> 0:23:39.796 your your your world? Look up plan your yard, your 0:23:39.956 --> 0:23:54.396 rodos are you or a Telenoto cas. 0:23:53.436 --> 0:23:54.036 Your your. 0:23:58.836 --> 0:24:01.876 Something like that. I don't remember the lyrics instead of 0:24:01.916 --> 0:24:03.316 gonna and chile. 0:24:05.476 --> 0:24:07.836 Everyone listening, I feel I should look up the lyrics 0:24:07.956 --> 0:24:11.036 that it's the most beautiful song maybe ever know, one 0:24:11.076 --> 0:24:11.676 of the greatest. 0:24:12.316 --> 0:24:16.596 She has so many, but yeah, for me, I don't know. 0:24:16.956 --> 0:24:20.636 It was really beautiful to have this approach to those 0:24:20.716 --> 0:24:24.316 musics and not so easy, not so easy to sing. 0:24:24.396 --> 0:24:26.396 But I'm still learning. 0:24:26.956 --> 0:24:30.036 So going back and listening to that music and learning 0:24:30.036 --> 0:24:31.876 to play it and learning to sing it, it seems like 0:24:31.916 --> 0:24:35.556 that also it changed your songwriting. 0:24:35.676 --> 0:24:40.756 Maybe yeah, of course I realized that when I listened 0:24:40.756 --> 0:24:44.436 to the last album that I made, and it's probably 0:24:44.436 --> 0:24:49.196 the most personal album that I have, and I think 0:24:49.236 --> 0:24:53.956 in every song there is very clear the influences that 0:24:54.196 --> 0:24:58.436 I have been able to explore through the years. There 0:24:58.476 --> 0:25:02.996 is this incredible composer from Venezuela. I love his music 0:25:03.196 --> 0:25:07.596 as his name is Simondas. Maybe you know him. When 0:25:07.596 --> 0:25:11.716 I heard him the first time, I would like, this 0:25:12.196 --> 0:25:17.876 is incredible music, so magic and the metaphors through the lyrics, 0:25:17.916 --> 0:25:21.836 and he uses a lot nature as an inspiration and 0:25:21.876 --> 0:25:26.196 for me, I felt so connected because the place I live, 0:25:26.596 --> 0:25:29.476 which is better Cruise, I love it so much because 0:25:29.516 --> 0:25:33.756 of the weather and the nature around the earth. So 0:25:33.836 --> 0:25:37.076 I was learning the very very first song that I 0:25:37.156 --> 0:25:46.836 learned by him, This is your video commadres Yes Samoa 0:25:47.796 --> 0:25:59.676 two kaso me video alone only combationdreos Yes commos as 0:25:59.796 --> 0:26:07.436 us Commo Samoa to Korazon conning meo too koa zoono 0:26:08.556 --> 0:26:13.436 so so beautiful. Yeah, and I can see how music 0:26:14.396 --> 0:26:18.876 has impact. Then maybe a song like Parto, which is 0:26:19.196 --> 0:26:25.796 the song from my favorite you like Pararido You know 0:26:26.116 --> 0:26:37.516 things me om Cagas, Beertos, Bara surfle Is, Condo sce 0:26:37.636 --> 0:26:44.156 and skin Finitor Moon Siri Salas. Then through the to 0:26:44.316 --> 0:26:58.556 Beru Pardos Elelientola Gabola. It's in the SETI casin Sindelf 0:26:59.796 --> 0:27:04.156 and two movie Me and to Be the Universo and 0:27:04.636 --> 0:27:22.156 two certain told Serbian gianno Sarbian? 0:27:25.916 --> 0:27:26.276 Do you. 0:27:28.916 --> 0:27:34.356 Baraself? Philly? So it reminds me to those musics. 0:27:34.716 --> 0:27:38.396 How did you start that song humming Bird in English? 0:27:38.636 --> 0:27:43.116 The Huming Bird? I was in this beautiful place that 0:27:43.596 --> 0:27:48.316 my friend Gail has in Bera Gruz was her mother's 0:27:48.556 --> 0:27:53.036 farm and Rossillo. I actually have a song that I 0:27:53.156 --> 0:27:58.796 wrote for Rossio, the Tolos campus. And this friend, she's 0:27:58.916 --> 0:28:02.956 not physically anymore here, but she's part of my life 0:28:03.036 --> 0:28:07.796 and she's a very important person for what I do. 0:28:08.196 --> 0:28:12.996 Like she was in credible artist, and in this place, 0:28:13.196 --> 0:28:16.716 I was recovering myself for something. I don't know what 0:28:16.996 --> 0:28:21.076 that was. I think we all have moments when you 0:28:21.236 --> 0:28:25.396 just feel like your heart is broken for things that 0:28:25.596 --> 0:28:29.356 happen in life. But then everything goes so fast and 0:28:29.516 --> 0:28:32.516 you don't get to really like connect to when you 0:28:33.076 --> 0:28:36.996 feel there's pain that you need to see and pay 0:28:37.036 --> 0:28:41.796 attention to, you know. So I was recovering myself from that, 0:28:42.156 --> 0:28:44.956 and I decided to go there for a month. I 0:28:45.036 --> 0:28:48.956 went there with my friend Alan, and we were trying 0:28:49.036 --> 0:28:52.396 to see if there was music coming or not. That 0:28:52.596 --> 0:28:55.476 was for another project that I was working on. But 0:28:55.636 --> 0:28:59.836 he said like, don't worry, I'll be around. You don't 0:28:59.876 --> 0:29:02.356 feel any pressure, Like I'll be around and you feel 0:29:02.396 --> 0:29:04.596 like you want to come and record, will do it. 0:29:05.316 --> 0:29:08.036 If not, don't worry. And then I was in the 0:29:08.156 --> 0:29:11.516 room one day and I remember that I was inside 0:29:11.556 --> 0:29:15.396