WEBVTT - Danny Huston 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to River Cafe, Table four, a production of iHeartRadio 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:08.560 and Adami Studios. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.440 In front of the camera and behind it. Danny Houston 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:15.360 has spent his life in movies. Danny's son of John Houston, 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.599 grew up watching Russia's traveling to film locations and meeting 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.160 all the great actors, later directing, producing and acting in 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:28.600 films and television series Mister North, Fade to Black, The 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:35.360 Constant Gardner Succession, and much more. I knew Danny loved food, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.320 but nothing could have impressed me more than one of 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:44.159 all the River Cafe recipes he chose. While basically toast toast, 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.519 or rather, as the Italians call it, brusquetta, was what 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.000 made me want to cook Italian food when I first 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.920 tasted it in Florence in nineteen seventy one. Danny and 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.240 I have much to discuss today as we sit here 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:03.680 in the River Cafe, food, music, family, cookie, traveling. Then 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.360 we'll go inside across the green and have a piece 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:08.200 of briskinna. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:15.679 I will read the recipe of a brusquit for four people. 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:19.280 It would be four thick slices of bread from sour 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:24.000 dough loaf, one garlic clove, very good olive oil, a 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:29.440 state bottled extra virgin olive oil. You heat the griddle 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.759 pan or you chargrill it until it's very hot, and 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.640 you toast the slices and until they're dark but not 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:42.800 burnt on both sides. You remove the slices from the 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:47.039 grill and you rub them lightly with a garlic clove. 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:52.760 You season with salt, black pepper, and you drizzle it 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:58.040 very generously with olive oil. And that is it. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.000 Thank you, so as I was saying, why did you 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.440 choose a piece of brusquette with olive oil? 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.720 It is one of my early memories being in Rome 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:12.280 as a child. I remember going to a restaurant called 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.800 the Kukuruku by the Tiber. There was always a lot 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:21.960 of attention Townan's love children. It would be the phone 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.640 books would be brought out so I could sit higher 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.480 in the chair, and the bluskit that would come out, 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:36.040 usually rather vigorously scratched, really with with with the garlic clove, 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.840 and out it would come. It's one of my early memories, 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:45.800 as I said, diving into these wonderful kazari show pieces 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:51.280 of bread and it would just stimulate my appetite as 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:52.279 it does today. 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.080 And so you were you were actually born in Rome. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.920 I was born in Rome. My father was making a 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.640 film called The Bible. It was long. It was a 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.720 long pre production and post production, rather well known book. 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:09.480 Yesk yeah, yeah, but here was that nineteen sixty two. 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.040 My love of food really started right there. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.600 Did you eat out a lot, a lot of your 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:16.560 food in restaurants? 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:20.240 Yes, we ate out a lot beautiful restaurants. And the 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.639 connection towards children, as I said earlier, the phone books 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.880 on the chair and the tension, I mean, the star 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.160 at the table is the kid, and they you know, 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.600 they squeeze your your your cheeks, which you can get 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.480 a little annoying after a while, but the attention is 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.480 on you. What do you what do you? You know, what 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:44.800 does the kid like? And great joy drive by everybody 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.120 if the child is happy. Yeah, I had I. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.160 Had some friends who came from New York and they 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.560 rented a house in Tuscany and they had a two 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:55.600 year old child. One year old child, put her in 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.920 the bed and woke up in the morning she's gone, 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.920 I mean she's gone. And they completely understandably panicked. And 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.000 you know what those days didn't have mobiles and went 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.280 to the neighbor's house to call the police. And they 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.480 walked into the neighbor's house and they're sitting in a 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.120 high chair with their daughter, you know, eating breakfast. Because 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.640 they had seen them arrived the night before. They thought 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.400 the baby might be hungry. The parents would be sleeping, 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.000 so they just came in and took the baby and 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.560 took care of her, you know, and that was you know, 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:31.080 you know, it's just such a different idea of the 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.279 child as the center of the of the story. Yeah. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.480 Yeah. And there's an expression at times, the bonnacle bianet, 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.120 which is mean as good as. 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:40.120 Bread, as good as bread. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.800 Yeah, so you grew up as good as bread. Tell 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.680 me about your father and food, because I grew up 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.640 with John Houston. I know, the young chef in my 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.000 restaurant is cooking today, also called Danny, when I told 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:52.840 him you were coming. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:54.320 You know, loves your work. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.479 He knows every movie you've been in, and he knows 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:00.640 about your grandfather and your father and you and. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.960 Say, this family. Can you tell us about this family? 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:11.320 Certainly, certainly my grandfather Walter Houston, marvelous actor, My father 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:21.000 John Houston, master director and actor. My sister Angelica once again, 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:26.440 tremendous actress and the best friend and sister that one 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:34.039 could possibly have. And she's my angel, and we I 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:40.000 can say with great confidence that we all love food 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:47.040 and wine. My father designed the label for a Muton Rothschild, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:54.440 which was a superb year. He shared that with other 0:05:54.560 --> 0:06:00.120 artists such as as Matisse and Warhole. Yeah. And I 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:06.840 remember in Spain, let me Danny taste this. It's it's 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.120 called a DESPATCHO. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:11.880 Did you know your grandfather? 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.880 I never met my grandfather. I only met him through 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.600 the film. Is that my father would show me. There 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.240 was always a big sort of plava made out of 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.360 bringing the projector out, and sometimes the film would rip 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:28.000 be spliced back together and and there'd be the sort 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.520 of beam of light that would cut through the cigar smoke. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.760 And there was my grandfather. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.800 And treasure and that I remember with the gold shaking, 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.200 shaking memory. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:44.040 Yeah, yeah, And I mean I thought he was those characters. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:48.440 I thought he was the gold prospector. And then films 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:55.800 like Dodsworth and and my father did at the u 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:02.320 beginning of an evening, he'd he'd he'd make the sound addressing. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:02.560 He did. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:07.320 Yes, absolutely, Yes, see a mustard oil, vinegar and a 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:13.040 little dash of sugar. Sugar, yeah, which is which is 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.320 something that I've tried to reproduce and I can't quite 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.680 get it right, Not like he not like he did. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.960 There was some magical thing that he did and I 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:24.760 can't reproduce. 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.360 What do you cook other food? That? 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:32.040 That was? That was his his gesture before a meal. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.560 What about drinks? Did he have a cocktails? 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:42.040 Well, Martini was a dry lemon twist. But depending on 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:47.040 where we were, what country were we were, the cocktails 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:51.360 would would differ. In For instance, I remember in Mexico 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.480 when he was making a film called Under the Volcano 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:59.960 Malcolm Lowry with Albert Finney. We would watch the daily 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.040 Russia's whatever he shot that the previous day. We'd watch 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.080 it in the evening and I used to make him cocktails. 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.520 You made the cocktail? Yes, an age for you. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:15.520 Then Danny very young, and he would I remember him 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.320 in Mexico. He was having kuba libres and I'd make 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:23.360 him a rum and coke and I handed to him 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.920 and he'd say, no, no, no, the coke should only 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:27.720 color the rum. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.000 We have to make a drink for your father. And 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:34.559 so who cooked in your house? 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:35.520 My mother cooked. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.079 She was born in India. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.360 She was born in Indian luck now yeah, just under 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:45.480 the Himalayas. Then during the partition they moved to London. 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.120 Did she bring that culture with her or her parents? 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:50.559 Did your grandparents cook Indian? 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:50.959 Well? 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:52.040 Did they come as well? 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.760 Yes? They did? Well, my my my grandmother. It was 0:08:55.800 --> 0:09:04.120 always a spicy doll, was Mati Rice Sogpanier. But I 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:12.680 also remember digestive biscuits and uh television, you know, Dad's 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.320 are Army and those those kind of programs. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.319 As you grew up with different cultures Indian, your father 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.720 being American and Italian. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.520 Yes, and was that all mixed you think in your 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.680 palette of the early years. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.120 Yeah, yeah. I spent a lot of time in Galway 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:35.600 in Ireland growing up, and we drive to Kanamara Bay 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.920 and have oysters. I would have a little glass of guinness. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:42.200 What age would this be? 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:43.120 Very young? 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:45.559 What age? 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:54.080 Oh? Preteens? But Kannamara Bay you could really taste taste 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.720 the sea in those and in those oysters, the mutinous 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:03.640 Shannon waves and that wonderful breeze. And I learned to 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:08.480 swim in Calamara, the very freezing much much much to 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:13.840 everybody's horror. But but Betty O'Kelly would hold hold my 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.600 my body up with her hand, and that's that's how 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.600 I learned how to swim. Many memories with my father 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:28.440 and in Saint Clarence and Galway. Uh interesting guests, you know, 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:34.960 mister Fuller, Robert Mitcham, Lauren Bacall. I remember falling in 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.760 love with with with with Ava Gardener at a restaurant 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:39.800 at Montpilly Square. 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:42.600 She did, you know she lived in. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.840 And lunch with my mother and and Ava. And after 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:52.600 the lunch I said to my mother, again barely a teenager, Mom, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.800 I'm I'm in love and she she just clipped me 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.000 in the back of the head and she said, of 0:10:58.000 --> 0:10:58.480 course you. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:02.120 Are a gardener, for christ, what's not to love? 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.280 She was. She was dressed so casually. She was wearing 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.960 doctor showls and just sort of you know, she she 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:13.480 was hardly hardly any makeup. But the combination of her 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:22.320 and the and the food that made me a little dizzy. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.240 I was sent to boarding school in England, must have 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.640 been about eleven twelve years old. I mean the boarding 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.040 school I had was quite tame. It was in Somerset, 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.320 compared to other people's experiences. Mine was very, very tame 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.400 and a summer set Millfield, Millfield. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:46.240 Yeah, it was. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:50.000 Okay, it was a way for me to claim my independence. 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.600 But yes, a stark difference. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.800 What was the food like? Dot ghastly? 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.480 Yeah. I remember I was sitting next to a girl 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.240 who was from India and her food looked much better 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.360 than mine, and I asked why and they said, she's 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:10.240 a vegetarian. Okay, well I'll be a veget at school, 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.720 I'll be a vegetarian. So I still don't eat a 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:21.239 lot of meat. My weak spot is or you know, figs. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.400 That is a comfort place for me. But I'm not 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:31.760 a big, big meat teacher. But the moment I I 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:36.600 finished school and started cooking, my forte was cooking for. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.880 Two as a method of We've talked a lot about 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.800 seducing a woman with food as a. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:49.600 Method of seduction. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't, but yes, 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.199 as as a method of seduction, and it was. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.560 Very sexy having a mad cook few. I have to say, 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.240 I do think there is something as a woman. This 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.880 just is a scene in Michael came when I talked 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.960 to Michael in an interview and we looked. We talked 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.520 about the ip Crisfild and there's a scene where he 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.720 is a spy and an agent and he's a great 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.480 kind of figure. But there's this very moving scene where 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.080 he actually cooks for the woman and she and he 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.520 does seem more interested in chopping the carrot than even 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:22.120 you know, the first kiss. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.880 It's very well, it's a very central thing, isn't it. 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:32.199 Bibet's feast. Yeah, many films use that as a visual 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.240 language because of course you can't taste the food through 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.680 the screen, but you can only imagine what it tastes like. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.920 So what would you cook when you were young? 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:45.520 Man? What I what I what I think is fun 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.839 is is sort of necessity is a mother invention. And 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:54.520 so you go back home, it's not been premeditated, necessarily, 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.640 and you open the purgency what's there? And you whip 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:04.800 it up? And this something about the improvisation also searching 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:11.120 for a pleasant accident. I sort of translate that to 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.200 my work as well to acting. You're you're looking for 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:19.280 the for the unexpected, and sometimes you whip something up. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.600 You've got some carrots and chop them up finally and 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.560 you throw them in with the with with with the garlic, 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.760 and uh, and you've discovered another another type of acting. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.800 Maybe it's it's it's something that wasn't that wasn't written 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.520 and and and and certainly not pre premeditated that you 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.560 discover that gives it a feeling of reality and truth. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:50.440 And the person that you're working with also discovers something 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:55.200 else because of it, and it becomes a wall a dance. 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.320 Do you like to eat when you're filming? 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:03.080 Yes? And no. I mean food for me is the 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:08.160 past and the present and and that anticipation right before 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.520 you eat of something, of something unexpected, and in a 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.040 way it takes me away from from my work. To 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.040 combine it with work for me as for me as difficult. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.400 I remember having lunch with my father and Orson Wells 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:28.480 in l A and Orson eating a lot, and I 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:32.120 could see my father looking quite concerned and maybe even 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:32.800 a little. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.120 Phobic about what that was going on too long, that 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:37.920 he was was unhealthy or. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.040 Just it was it was unlike not onlike today. It 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.640 was a hot day, and he was eating too much, 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.760 and it's just I could see I could see it 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:51.000 making my father a little a little queasy. He didn't 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:55.680 particularly like sharing dishes. He didn't like it when his agent, 0:15:55.760 --> 0:16:01.240 Paul Kohner, used to plunge his fork into his whatever 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.200 whatever he was eating. He liked to keep it separate. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:10.520 But man was he a big man, tall, big. 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:18.040 Heart, personality, generous and loved a fine a fine meal, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:22.040 and a good restaurant. I remember I remember going to 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.960 Alfredo's with him in Rome and his delight when the 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.920 Golden fourk and Spoon came out. No, he absolutely loved 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.960 loved food, and loved dining, and loved spending time with 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:39.520 with with people and celebrating. But at times, at times 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.000 he liked his own space. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.080 Did you spend time growing up in La? 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.720 Not growing up? But I spent time I was in 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.800 La in my twenties. I like the California Palette. It's 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.360 it's it's again, it's freshness, it's those great salads and 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.280 talking about accidents. How the caesar salad came about some 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.720 stale bread and anchovies and a couple of leaves and parmesan. Really, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:20.040 it's wonderful when something occurs like that. And I mean, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.840 I don't know how you came across, how you came 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:26.680 across this location and how it developed, but maybe possibly 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:30.640 there were a series of unexpected surprises that came your way. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.359 Yeah. When we opened here, it was a Duckham's oil refinery. 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:39.000 My husband and his partners, architectural partners decided because we 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.720 were living in Paris for four years, he did the 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.639 Pomperty Center and we came back and didn't want to 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.600 be in the center of London in office buildings, so 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.879 found this site and tried to create a community. And 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.840 so the community was built on the idea there would 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:57.240 always be someplace to eat. And we were reviewing different 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.800 ideas for restaurants that wanted to come here, cafes really, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.000 because there's a tiny space. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.600 And I said, you know what, maybe I'll do it. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.399 And that's what happened, you know. And then I did 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.760 it with my friend Rose Gray. And then the rest 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:14.240 is just like you say, any idea that it is then. 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.200 Or an accident, an accident of birth, an accident a place, 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:22.160 an accident of creative activity sometimes takes you somewhere else. 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.240 Have you ever worked in a restaurant? 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.399 No, I haven't. I would love to. I to. I 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.400 actually have a sort of a fantasy which I'm sure 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.240 will probably never be fulfilled, but I would love to 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.440 own a restaurant by the beach and catch of the day. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.560 And yeah, I know that's got to be a lot 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:49.520 of stress, especially to maintain a certain standard. You can't 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.480 let it go the same way as a film director. Yeah, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:56.399 you know, you've got to be probably a little obsessive 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:02.200 and in charge and seeing every seeing every detail, otherwise 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.760 things could fall apart. But my fantasy is sort of 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:06.199 some sort of. 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.400 Hammock where what country would that be? 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.440 It would be it would be it would be well, 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.000 you know, the Mediterranean certainly, or Mexico, Mexico. 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.080 I lived in Mexico for four months. That's two years ago. 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.760 I lived in Mexico City and my husband had an accident, 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.960 so we stayed there for four months and I loved it. 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.359 I just as a place that I want to return 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:34.159 to again and again. Where were you in Mexico? Is 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:35.040 that with your family? 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.120 Yeah? My father had a house that you can only 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:38.960 get to my boat. This is when he gave up ireland. 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.800 He became very minimal. He leased some land outside of 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.200 Puerto Arta that you could only get to on a 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.840 on a boat, on a panga. And there he had 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:51.000 a chef called. 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:55.160 Archie and very Mexican Mexican. 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.880 No, no, no, Archie. Archie was Filipino, and he now 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.000 has a restaurant in part of art which is which is, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.879 which is delicious? Actually, sadly he's not with us anymore, 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.840 but his wife, his wife wife runs at Archies restaurant, 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:12.360 and part of our what was And in a way 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:20.359 it's my definition of complete luxury, eating fine food and 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:25.160 drinking delicious wine in the tropics, you know, and the again, 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:31.480 the freshness, the papayas, the mangoes, the avocados, and the fish. 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.800 Yeah, so that's where you could open your restaurant. 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:39.320 What's clear in your stories and our lives is that 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:44.480 you know, food is memory, food is sharing, Food is comfort. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.800 What would that food be that is a comfort food? 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:51.160 Well, I have one of my one of my weaknesses 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.480 is waking up in the middle of the night and 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:59.639 tiptoeing to the kitchen just cutting a piece of bread 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:05.000 and dunking it into a little saucer of olive oil 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:12.040 and adding adding some salt and and and secretly literally 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:17.720 eyes closed, enjoying the combination of tastes. I suppose that 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:23.520 sort of brings us back to to our brusqueite, where 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:28.320 it's it's it's. It is so much about those first 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.880 things that you ate when you when you were a child, 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.560 and and and a certain kind of regression, uh, momentary 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.480 regression which which makes you feel cozy and at. 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.920 Home and safe, Yeah, safe and comfort. Thank you, Danny. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.760 Let's thank you so much. 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.520 To visit the online shop of The River Cafe, go 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:03.200 to shop the River Cafe dot co dot uk. 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:09.040 Rivercafe Table four is a production of iHeartRadio and Adamized Studios. 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:14.320 For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.520 or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.