1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Welcome in while Driving the Grand episode four fifty six. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: It is our Friday mailbag episode. In this episode of 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: What's Right in the Guard is presented to you by 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: boost Mobile a reminder to like, rate, subscribe, and review 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: the show. Really just subscribe, It's what helps us out 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: the most. All right, Before we get to the mailbag, 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Demon's a Thursday on Thursday show. We were supposed to 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: get to Jaalen Brown, but sometimes I just can kind 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: of feel that I'm finishing with a flourish and I 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: didn't think we were gonna get any better than the 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Draymond Green rant at the end, and so I just 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: I ended it. However, that so Jalen Brown, I'm gonna 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: catch everybody up. Jalen Brown, the day after the season ends, 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: has a somewhat bizarre Twitch stream where he says a 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: lot of things. One of the things he said was 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: criticizing the officials got fine fifty Grand, but also said 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: like this was my favorite ear of my career, and 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: that then led to people being like, really, you guys 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: want a championship. In previously on Finals MVP, you one 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: Finals MVP. Then Tracy McGrady, who evidently has a real 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: relationship with Jalen Brown said on his podcast with Vince 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: Carter said, yeah, listen, Jalen's got problems with the organization, 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh. Brad Stevens then asked about it. 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Brad Stems like, no, no, We're all good. You know, 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: tried to debt it. Jalen then was like another Twitch stream, 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: initially said it was going to be on ig with 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett, then pivoted to later in the day on 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,639 Speaker 1: Twitch where he said, you know, I hate that Brad 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: had to answer for this. I love Boston. If it's 30 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: up to me, I'll spend the rest of my career here, 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: or he said, another ten years here, and then he's 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: like and also, by the way, I want to make 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: something clear, I triple down on this is my favorite 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: year of my career and then explained why. He was like, 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, they counted us out. I got to see 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: the young guys grow, got to see my brother, you know, 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: JT come back from injury. This is my favorite year 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: of my career. I you know, vacationed as a Celtics 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: fan this postseason because I picked him to win the title. 40 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: You Demanse are an actual Celtics fan. I think is 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: this accurate? It put demanse back on the first ever 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: jersey your daughter has worn? Is a Tatum jersey? Yeah, yeah, 43 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: like the first and all I saw the picture, I 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: didn't I assume that was the first. I mean, I'd 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: have gone, I'd have gone, mahomes. But it's fine. Uh 46 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: and so uh the m your thoughts as an actual 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Celtic fan on all of it, just. 48 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Get the guy out of the team, like he wow, 49 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: he's it being your favorite year you doubling down just 50 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: the things that he says and moving forward, I just 51 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: don't know what he's gonna say in the future. 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: Like I just and I wonder how Jason Tatum feels 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: about all this stuff. I wonder what their relationship is truly, 54 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: Like I imagine they got to like each other at 55 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: the very least, But I wonder how he feels about 56 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: everything that Jaylen Brown is saying. But uh, but yeah, 57 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: and this isn't like the first or second instance. Jalen 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 3: Brown has has said a few things throughout his career 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: that's just made me be like, why it's a little unnecessary. 60 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: So like, even as far as I'll even go back 61 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: to him, saying that Browny was wasn't a pro and 62 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: then he like doubled down. Even you could have even 63 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: said that you didn't say it. In that instance, you 64 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: got picked up on it. I get it, Like be 65 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: a man and say what you said. 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: But it's just like, listen, here's what I do think 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: is pretty clear, and I feel comfortable saying it. He 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: thinks he's the best player on the team. Yeah, And 69 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: I think he's maybe thought he's always been the best 70 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: player on the team and that the team has pushed 71 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: Tatum and he has sacrificed in a way that he Again, 72 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: I don't know Jalen Brown at all. This is just 73 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: my read on it, having watched basketball and listened to him, 74 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: and then he has felt like, you know, he's there, 75 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: you know favorite. So I'm the one in trade rumors, 76 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm the one who's you know, in second place when 77 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm better because he and I think that is personally 78 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: just a I don't think there's anyone on the outside 79 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: that thinks he's better. I don't think it's like a 80 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, the at the end of Shaq Kobe, like 81 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: by oh three, maybe for some even by O two. 82 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: There were a lot of people like Kobe's better. Like, 83 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: I thought that was incorrect, but there were people that 84 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: legitimately thought that. I trying to think of other great, 85 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: great duos where there was real debate on who's the 86 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: best guy. Uh, there really haven't been many because it 87 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: usually is pretty I guess Steph kd the real debate 88 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: who was better, but that was more of a temporary thing, 89 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: and both guys had been you know, the number one 90 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: on teams, it's Jason Tatum. Can't He's He's bigger than 91 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. He's just better than Jalen Brown. There's there 92 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: is almost nothing Jalen Brown can do that Tatum can't do, 93 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: and there are a few things Tatum can do that 94 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown can't do. Like, so, I don't think it 95 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: is controversial, but I think because of Tatum's injury and 96 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: the success they had this year in the regular season, 97 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: and the fact that Jalen Brown was talking about himself 98 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: as if I'm the best two way player in the league, 99 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: there were folks pushing Jalen Brown for MVP. Wilbond, you know, 100 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: is still convinced Jalen Brown's gonna be first team All NBA. 101 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: When I don't think he is, and I think that 102 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: I do think he wants is to be the number 103 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: one guy somewhere, which I don't begrudge him that piece 104 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: of it. He's like, I've been here ten years, won 105 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: a championship, made a bunch of money. Let me go 106 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: see how far I can take it on my own. 107 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: It just feels like like I don't begrudge him that, 108 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: but it just feels like a he is handling this oddly, 109 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: And as is often the case with a lot of 110 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: athletes today, I think a big contributor to whatever the 111 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: issue is is being a little too online and I 112 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: think just being a little too locked in to what 113 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: people are saying on social media and all of that, 114 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: which is when I heard him say like, oh say 115 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: it again. 116 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: No, you even hear it in the streams. He's like, uh, 117 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: there's all these narratives being pushed, like I'm trying to nip, 118 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: like basically go at that and make it more clear. 119 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, correct, I don't need to 120 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: do that. 121 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: And when you also the other one is whenever someone's 122 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: like gets criticized for saying something and then the response 123 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: is I'm doubling down I'm tripling down it. To me, 124 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: that is usually a pretty big signifier of your very 125 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: online because to me, what that if even if I 126 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: say something on TV. I'll use myself as an example, 127 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: if I say something on TV and the internet comes 128 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: after me for it, I do want to be even 129 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: more entrenched, like I'll bleep you faceless, nameless folks. I'm 130 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna if I say something on TV and Brewer Wilde's 131 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: or your mom say to me, I don't think that 132 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: was right. I am that. I pause, and I'm like, okay, 133 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: maybe I need to adjust. And so my guess again, 134 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: don't know the guy. My guess is if someone had 135 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: come to jail and Brown personally and said, hey, man, 136 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: you saying this is the best year of your career 137 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: is whether you mean for it or not, it's gonna 138 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: be taken like this. It hood, you know, hurt some 139 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: feelings of people that matter, like the is there? Do 140 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: we think you want to clarify that? My guess is, 141 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: even if he was like, no, I said it, I 142 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: want to stand by it. I don't think it would 143 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: be as I'm tripling down. Yeah, But because it. 144 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 3: Was, I've thawed my head. Yeah, this is really how 145 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 3: I feel. 146 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: My favorite scene, Yeah, the and so it was, so 147 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: I don't I The only tricky part is this demanse. 148 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: What if Yannis isn't available either because he gets traded 149 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: elsewhere or Milwaukee somehow just says we're keeping him. Can 150 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: you get fair value for Jalen Brown without Yannis being 151 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: on the other side of it? That's the part I 152 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, and so I think we 153 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: gotta wait and see. Okay, there's the jail in Brown piece. 154 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Now let's fight. 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I think this is probably the same for everyone 198 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: that spends real time thinking about it the first time 199 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: where you're like, holy shit, I might be watching the guy. 200 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: The greatest player of all time was the forty eight 201 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: Special against Detroit, when twenty two year old Lebron James 202 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: scored twenty nine of his team's final thirty points to 203 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: take control of the series against the Pistons that he 204 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: had no business winning. En route to the NBA Finals 205 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: and seven. That was the moment where it felt and 206 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: I really don't think here is the only downside Demonsee two. 207 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: Playing as long as Lebron is played, people feel like 208 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: they saw Lebron like you. You're probably a really good 209 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: example of this. You probably feel like you've seen Lebron's career. Yeah, 210 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: and you didn't see a second of him when he 211 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: actually was peak athleticism. Lebron like six the final three years, 212 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: four years he had in Cleveland the first time when 213 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: it was just as simple as well, I'm faster than everyone, 214 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: and I can jump higher than everyone. Why don't I 215 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: just dunk on you? Every time? 216 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 3: It was unlike me. 217 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: It was so unlike anything because he didn't really have 218 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: a jump shot yet, and so everyone they played off him, 219 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: daring him to shoot. It was like, uh, doesn't matter, 220 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: I'll just drive past you and dunk on you. And 221 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: so that that was the moment, all right. 222 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: Next Sam said, how far can how far can an 223 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: individual player go up the all time ladder without ever 224 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: being the best in the world. 225 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: Well, if you're talking literally like how high up is 226 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: the highest guy who was never the best in the world, 227 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: Or if you're asking theoretically. Theoretically, the answer is a guy, 228 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: just from a logical perspective, could end up being the 229 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: second best player of all time and never be the 230 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: best player in the world if his career directly aligns 231 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: exactly with the greatest player of all time. You know, Sarah, 232 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean like, let's an alternate universe where Carmelo Anthony 233 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: is the second greatest player ever and same draft you know, 234 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: I obviously believe Lebron's greatest player ever, same draft class 235 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: as Lebron. They could play for the same amount of years, 236 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: all of it, and just he never you know, passes 237 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: that guy. So in theory the answers, I guess second 238 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: as far as on my list, And man, this is 239 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: this will be something I'm telling Paul right now, use 240 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: your judgment on this will get aggregated, clipped, and it 241 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: will do numbers. People get so mad at this take. 242 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: But the problem with this take is I know it 243 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: is correct, and it's why I but it is so 244 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: it makes people so mad that I don't really lean 245 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: into it because I don't really have the uh what's 246 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: the word. I just sometimes get tired of arguing about it. 247 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: But greatest players ever, let me just Bron, Kareem, Michael Russell, Magic, 248 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: Wilt Duncan, Kobe. So I guess the answer is number 249 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: eight because Kobe's the eighth gradest player ever and he 250 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: was never the best player in the world. I know 251 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: people get mad at that take, but here's the problem 252 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: and the reason. Kobe was never the best player in 253 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: the world because once Kobe got great, call it ninety nine. 254 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: He wasn't great yet, but I'll give him ninety once 255 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: you started seeing flashes. From ninety nine until two thousand 256 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: and two, Shaquille O'Neal was the best player in the world. 257 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: And then from two thousand and three until two thousand 258 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: and seven, Tim Duncan was the best player in the world. 259 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: You know how I know Tim was the best player 260 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: in the world at that time because he won three 261 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: championships in five years, he won two MVPs. He was 262 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: the best player. He was the best player until that 263 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: forty eight special by Lebron in two thousand and seven. 264 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: Lebron was the best player in the world from that 265 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: moment until two thousand and eighteen. So it was Shack, 266 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: it was Duncan, it was then Bron. At no point 267 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: was Kobe the best player in the world, eighth greatest 268 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: player ever, never the best player in the world. People 269 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: get very mad at me. Show me the year, show 270 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: me the season, show me when he was and people 271 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: will be like, what about two thousand and six. It's like, well, 272 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, best player in the world losing round one? 273 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: What about two thousand and seven. I don't know, best 274 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: player in the world blow a three to one leading 275 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: round one? What about two thousand and five, I don't know, 276 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: best player in the world missed the playoffs? Probably not 277 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: so the answers Kobe, next, What's I know? 278 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: Ball? What's your take on the delay causing voters to 279 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 3: change their votes after the play. 280 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: Listen, I think it's the NBA's fault. If they thought 281 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: that wouldn't happen, the NBA must have been okay with it. 282 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: I'd be super pissed if I were kN Kinnipple, but 283 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: it is what it is. The NBA was okay with it. 284 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: Next, uh Joey YouTube Nick, The NBA has not had 285 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: an American MVP since Harden, and it looks like there 286 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: is no end in sight. Do you see an American 287 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: player winning MVP anytime soon? And if so, who so? 288 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: You're talking about this off the air the other day. 289 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: Who demands who would be your number one draft pick 290 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: for the next American to win MVP. 291 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 3: Next American to win MVP would have to be for me. 292 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: I gotta go in. I gotta feel like I gotta go. 293 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: So go ahead. 294 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: You know what, maybe, hey, man, I don't know what 295 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: Tyler is Halliburn is gonna be looking like when he 296 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: comes back. What about Tyre's Halliburton. If he comes back 297 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: super the. 298 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: Pacers go from the worst team and they're great again. 299 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: He gets a Steve Nash style MVP. That's an interesting one. 300 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 3: Are you leaning Brunson? 301 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: No, Okay, I don't think brun the NBA MVP. Uh, 302 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: I do think I I think Aunt's a good pick. 303 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: I think Tatum, you know, would be on the list. 304 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: But I just feel like Tatum probably Max is out 305 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: at like thirty. 306 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 307 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: That and especially if they get Giannie, it probably actually 308 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: hurts his chances of winning MVP because. 309 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 3: He got after Tyrese Halliburton or Tyrese Haliburton got hurt 310 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 3: after Tatum. 311 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: Yes, I think my answer to Mon's and this speaks 312 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: the fact that I think it's going to be quite 313 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: some time until an American wins MVP again. My answer 314 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: is Cooper Flag. Oh wow, I think it will be 315 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: like five years from now, you know, so like it's 316 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: just it feels like next like Wimby just leads the 317 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: pack going into next year. Shay's still in his prime. 318 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: You god, we know folks are gonna say jokers the 319 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: MVP every year. Yeah, I don't know if there's if Yannis, 320 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: if he gets traded, does Gianni's have one more like 321 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: Bam I'm back season. So it's just in the short term, 322 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: and that's what hurts State of the most. In the 323 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: short term, I think that international guys are gonna have it. 324 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: Is Luca ever gonna win one? I would think so, 325 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: So you might need some of these international guys to 326 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: get a little older, and that's when Cooper Flag could 327 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: swoop in. All right, let's do Allen's question on Isaiah Thomas. 328 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: Alan says, Nick, I love your content. Quick question, do 329 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: you think that Isaiah Thomas is the most underrated sports 330 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: figure of all time? His resume is incredible, but he's 331 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: not really adored in history in my opinion. 332 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I don't know about the most underrated sports 333 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: figure but I do think there's an argument he's the 334 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: most underrated NBA player ever. I think that all Isaiah 335 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: Thomas did was win at every level, and he was 336 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: the best player on all those teams. I mean, he 337 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: goes to Indiana, they win the National Championship, he is 338 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: the final four most outstanding player. He goes to Detroit 339 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: and has a winning playoff record against Jordan's Bulls, Bird Celtics, 340 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: and Magic's Lakers. And he does it without It's not 341 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: like he had these unbeatable super teams, right he the 342 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: he had. He had great teams, but he also understood 343 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: exactly what his guys needed on any given night, and 344 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: he depressed his own numbers in service of that as 345 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: a point guard. And for the first sixty five years 346 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: of NBA history, he was the only little person to 347 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: lead a team to a championship. Steph was the second, 348 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: and Steph six three and Isaiah's five to eleven. And 349 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: so no, I no, I mean, I'm I just meant, yeah, 350 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: I guess that sounded weird. I just meant, like the 351 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: small guy exactly what you mean. Yeah, first small guy 352 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: and the only small guy to be the best player 353 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: on a champion and they in eighty eight. They're up 354 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: three to two in the finals. He sprains his ankle. 355 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: He scores twenty five in a quarter on a sprained ankle. 356 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: They're about to win the championship. Kareem gets a kind 357 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: of soft foul down one with eight seconds left, makes 358 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: the free throws. They lose that game. He's a shell 359 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: of himself in game seven. They lose that championship. They 360 00:23:52,960 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: come back the next year and Sweet Bird sweep Monngrief 361 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: and Milwaukee beat the hell out of Jordan in six, 362 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: then sweep the Lakers who beat him the year before. 363 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: They come back again the next year they gentlemen sweep 364 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: Ewings Knicks, they beat Jordan in seven. They beat the 365 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: hell out of Portland and Clyde Drexler in the finals, 366 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: and then come back the very next year and Jordan 367 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: finally gets him in the conference finals and that's the 368 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: end of it. But they were competing with Boss, Like, 369 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: so yeah, I love Isaiah Thomas. I think he's an 370 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: and his his advanced stats are just overall stats or nothing, 371 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: like he's a career nineteen point nine assists, like guy 372 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: who never finished top four and MVP voting, but the 373 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: guy was an absolute monster, just a monster, sounds like 374 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: he does he ever notice how everything? So he does, 375 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: but he will the advanced analytics numbers like. The more 376 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: the advanced analytics take over, like, the more he'll be 377 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: pushed down. David Robinson will be elevated. Historically he's an 378 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: all time great player, but his history, the numbers say 379 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: he's one of the like twenty greatest players fifteen greatest 380 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: players ever, And the numbers say, as AA Thomas wasn't 381 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: that good? They're wrong on both accounts. You ever notice 382 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 1: everything keeps going up? Rint's going up, Streaming services going up? 383 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: Favorite Brito Spot thinks, sauls that should cost extra, Not 384 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: with boos with boost Moo, will you and your phone 385 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: bill don't play the will this go up soon? Game? 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Superstar who will claim that spot? 396 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: I did forget it? And he kind of speaks the 397 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: fact that right now there isn't anybody like brock Bowers 398 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: is the answer. But but you know, like it just 399 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: doesn't well, you gotta see, it's not really his fault. 400 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: You gotta either he's either gotta do it longer or 401 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: play in bigger games for people to really take notice. 402 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: Like Kelsey, Gronk, Kittle, all those guys unbelievable I'm talking 403 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: of the last decade or so, also on these unbelievable teams. 404 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: So it's just hard for a non glamour position, if 405 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: it's on a team that's not playing in big games, 406 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: to really pop. But the brock Bowers best tight end 407 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: in football, let's do all right, let's do beef turkey. 408 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 3: Are there any outside the box strategies you think coaches 409 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 3: could try or could try for on side kicks, such 410 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: as just trying to kick it very hard as a 411 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: player on the hands teams in hopes of a ricochet. 412 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: So I would like to see that exact strategy tried, 413 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: just absolutely, like I don't think it's a bad idea 414 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: at all. 415 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: And trying to hit a player, like trying to kick 416 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: it like right at him in like off the helmet 417 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: or something. 418 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, just absolutely firing now football not a soccer 419 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: ball or a dodgeball or a kickball. I guess. So 420 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be harder, but I I would here's what 421 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: I think on that, And that's why I like this question. 422 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: There has to be a way where you have better 423 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: than a one in fifteen chance, and like the current 424 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: recovery is like one in fifteen, ye, And so I 425 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: would just thank the randomness of if you could teach, 426 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: if the kicker could master the accuracy of just firing 427 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: it off somebody. I gotta think you recover more than 428 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: one in fifteen, which is like what the current onside 429 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: kick recovery rate is. All Right, we got to run. 430 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: Demonte's got to get to work. I do as well. 431 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: A big thank you to Blue Duck and the volume, 432 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: huge thank you to Boost and hard Rock bet enjoy 433 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: the games this weekend. Also, one programming note, I'm gonna 434 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: be doing some commentary on No Gamble, No Future this 435 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: weekend on poker go on YouTube if you guys want 436 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: to check that out in between NBA playoff games. So 437 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: you guys, if you're poker fan, you can check that 438 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: out there. All right, talk to you guys later. What's right,