Speaker 1: And That's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio Podcast. Welcome to and That's what
Speaker 1: you really missed. I'm Kevin and I'm Jenna, and this
Speaker 1: week we are recapping the one the Only Wheels Wheels
Speaker 1: the best episode there ever once. But before we get
Speaker 1: into the episode, we have to talk about Ryan Murphy
Speaker 1: getting the Carol Burnett on her UM at the Golden Clothes.
Speaker 1: It was great and UM, I will say it was
Speaker 1: particularly great because there were a couple of shots of Tardi.
Speaker 1: We had a really nice when we're tapping together. It
Speaker 1: was it was sweet. Jenna. I was happy that you
Speaker 1: and I got our own little, you know, two seconds
Speaker 1: little clip together. We were there, We were there, we
Speaker 1: were there in spirit. And then Ryan gave a beautiful
Speaker 1: speech and highlighted UM some of the incredible talent that
Speaker 1: he has worked with UM and it was just it
Speaker 1: was really really nice. I was happy to see him
Speaker 1: get that award. I talked to him over the holiday
Speaker 1: break and he was like, I think I'm a little
Speaker 1: young to be getting it, but I was like, just
Speaker 1: take it, Ryan, Yes, and He's like, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take He is really young to get it. But he's
Speaker 1: done such a body of a massive body of working
Speaker 1: such a short amount of time that like, I don't
Speaker 1: think any use questioning it. And he's changed, you know,
Speaker 1: the landscape of television in a lot of ways and
Speaker 1: made a lot of people massive stars. Yes, and made
Speaker 1: a lot of studios very very happy. Um well, congrats
Speaker 1: to Ryan and for Glee and Ryan, it's okay that
Speaker 1: you didn't talk about me for five minutes straight like
Speaker 1: I requested, I forgive you. Yeah, Um well, congrats. Ran
Speaker 1: back to the best episode there ever was of Glee.
Speaker 1: Take it away, Jenna, Okay, I love this episode. I
Speaker 1: have a lot of nostalgia for doing shooting this episode
Speaker 1: but then rewatching the stops. O gosh, what a good episode.
Speaker 1: This was so solid and um so we had the
Speaker 1: director of this episode, Paris Barclay, on last episode. If
Speaker 1: you haven't listened to it, go listen to it because
Speaker 1: it's wonderful. And we talked about how we're coming off
Speaker 1: sort of the um pure chaos that was previous few
Speaker 1: episodes and this sort of gets us back down to
Speaker 1: brass tacks of um Glee and the serious storylines and
Speaker 1: um monumental moments for a lot of these characters, yes, Um.
Speaker 1: And then we are also really in the thick of
Speaker 1: the feeling of like this being the beginning of the phenomenon.
Speaker 1: In the middle of this episode, we fly to New
Speaker 1: York to um dance for advertisers, to um show them
Speaker 1: that Glee is on Fox, to buy ad space and
Speaker 1: commercial space and look at our hit. We perform Somebody
Speaker 1: to Love Love five, which was the whole thing, um,
Speaker 1: which you just you don't perform for these acat show.
Speaker 1: This was special. And then in Glean News the the
Speaker 1: music Volume one was had come out the previous week,
Speaker 1: So this episode aired on November eleven, thousand nine, and
Speaker 1: the soundtrack came out November, remember November two, okay, And
Speaker 1: then he went to number one on the charts in Ireland,
Speaker 1: the UK, peaked at number three in Australia and number
Speaker 1: four in Canada and the United States, and Volume one
Speaker 1: has been certified platinum in all of those countries. Crazy,
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy, And this was so the Wheels episode because
Speaker 1: of the subject matter we also and because it was
Speaker 1: more of a serious episode. I think the network it
Speaker 1: was two things because it spoke to um a lot
Speaker 1: of different communities, like um down syndrome and people wheelchairs.
Speaker 1: They wanted to show this episode off in a way
Speaker 1: UM and show how it was going to impact people.
Speaker 1: And then also it was sort of like an Awards season,
Speaker 1: they don't forget about us next year. And we had
Speaker 1: screenings that there's a big there's a big movie theater
Speaker 1: chain r I p Arc Light here in l A.
Speaker 1: It was so good and I remember we had a
Speaker 1: gigantic screening there just for this episode. It was very
Speaker 1: and Chris were there, went for that. It was very Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a lot. There was a lot going on
Speaker 1: outside of the Glue bubble as well as inside UM.
Speaker 1: But it was exciting. Shall we get into this incredible
Speaker 1: episode featuring us. Yes, so most importantly in this episode,
Speaker 1: Already needs to get two sectionals and we learned that
Speaker 1: he needs a bus in order for Already to ride
Speaker 1: with us. Yes, we need a bus with an elevator
Speaker 1: with a lift to get the wheelchair in and that
Speaker 1: is expensive of in that for for the Glee club.
Speaker 1: So Mr Shooe comes up with the idea that because
Speaker 1: these kids are all very unempathetic, is that that a word? Unempathetic? Apathetic? Jenna,
Speaker 1: thank you Okay, so they're apathetic education show. Thank you.
Speaker 1: They were apathetic um too already being in a wheelchair. Um,
Speaker 1: they're like whatever, already can just get his own ride. Uh.
Speaker 1: He decides that everybody is going to have to spend
Speaker 1: some time in a wheelchair. That's right, And we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a bake sale, yes, to raise funds to get
Speaker 1: the bus that we need to get all of us together.
Speaker 1: Two sectionals. So let's talk about the wheelchairs for a second,
Speaker 1: because we started the rehearsals for Proud Mary pretty early
Speaker 1: on in this episode. If I'm if my memory starves me, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we started I the episode before, right, like
Speaker 1: while we're filming the other episode. I think we started
Speaker 1: rehearsing for this because this was going to take some
Speaker 1: extra rehearsal time. Normally we rehearsed, as you've heard at
Speaker 1: this point, was in our dance studio called the Tin Shed,
Speaker 1: but they had to build this gigantic ramp contraption, and
Speaker 1: so we started using the stage one of the sound
Speaker 1: stages next door. Yes, that's right in the wheel in
Speaker 1: the wheelchairs, yes, and all that was on. There was
Speaker 1: this sort of mock up of this unfinished version of
Speaker 1: what we ended up shooting with. It was just would
Speaker 1: like plywood. Yeah, it wasn't pretty. So we were in
Speaker 1: the wheelchairs and one day we're rehearsing prad Mary, we're
Speaker 1: also shooting, you know, in the wheelchairs as well, the
Speaker 1: scenes that you see us and Diana and Corey decided
Speaker 1: to take the wheelchairs throughout a lot like for the
Speaker 1: whole day. And they came back and we're all sweaty
Speaker 1: and because on the sound stage because people always ask
Speaker 1: me like, oh, did you get like muscles from doing
Speaker 1: I'm like no, I'm on a flat, smooth surface all day.
Speaker 1: I'm not really having to exert much energy, to be honest.
Speaker 1: And the lot you know, has some ups and downs
Speaker 1: and the road is not always perfect. And so they
Speaker 1: came back and I remember we're all sweaty and gross
Speaker 1: and had to have like their hair and makeup redone
Speaker 1: like that was funny. I remember that. I also just
Speaker 1: remember the wheelchairs did not everyone was struggling, so some
Speaker 1: more than others. But I just remember at some point
Speaker 1: people would disappear and just need like fifteen minutes to recover.
Speaker 1: Because at first, like Paris said, it was the ramps
Speaker 1: were too high at first as well. They had to
Speaker 1: make were like flying down those things, and people were
Speaker 1: falling on their sides on their back, like shooting backwards.
Speaker 1: Remember Lee's wheelchair didn't have the brakes on it for
Speaker 1: a while and she went straight back. So mine, if
Speaker 1: you see close up, mine had these sort of like
Speaker 1: stoppers on the back of them, and you could like
Speaker 1: pop a wheelie basically and sit there. It was like
Speaker 1: training wheels, although they looked like training wheels on a tricycle.
Speaker 1: But some of like half the chairs didn't have those,
Speaker 1: so some people thought they did assume there's like mine did,
Speaker 1: and they went to go back and kept going back
Speaker 1: and ended up on their backs. Yea, um, But I
Speaker 1: loved that everyone had to be in a wheelchair. They
Speaker 1: got to experience it for a little bit in real life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you how you thought about
Speaker 1: I was really excited. I was really and it was
Speaker 1: also my first solo and yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: That was a big deal for me. And so tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me what the So if you listen to Paris's episode,
Speaker 1: Kevin tells us that he recorded this twice. Shouldn't normally happen. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: and you re recorded it? So what was the first version?
Speaker 1: Because I vaguely remember this, but what what did it
Speaker 1: sound like? So the full story? Before I recorded it,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that the next episode is going to
Speaker 1: be about us, and did not know I was going
Speaker 1: to get you know, I don't know if we were
Speaker 1: on the shooting the episode before this or two episodes
Speaker 1: before this. But Ryan walks up to me when we're
Speaker 1: in the auditorium and he's like, you should listen to
Speaker 1: Dancing with Myself covered by Novelle Vague and learn it.
Speaker 1: Something very exciting is coming for you. And would walk
Speaker 1: away like what? And I do that? Yeah? And I
Speaker 1: pull up this song and it's like the sweet little
Speaker 1: acoustic thing, something style I had never sung in before,
Speaker 1: and I was like what. I was not super I
Speaker 1: was really excited about having a solo, but I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the solo. I wanted something more flashy and
Speaker 1: but little did I know this sort of set me up.
Speaker 1: These are the types of songs already saying throughout the
Speaker 1: entire series, which I really liked. And you know, just
Speaker 1: we all got pushed vocally and outside of our comfort
Speaker 1: zones and this was not within my comfort zone mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciated that. But when it came to
Speaker 1: recording it, I went in for several hours and had
Speaker 1: a normal recording session and with Adamander's and we put
Speaker 1: together the song just like we did with any other
Speaker 1: thing up to that point. And then I get scheduled
Speaker 1: to go back into record, and I'm like, you guys,
Speaker 1: ever recorded this? I thought there was a mess up,
Speaker 1: so I whoever was scheduling it, I was like, I
Speaker 1: already did this. I don't think I think you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think I need to go back. And they're like, no,
Speaker 1: there was no from Ryan. Ryan thinks you sound too sexy.
Speaker 1: That's right, funny because this version is very sexy as well. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know what. So I was very confused, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never been called I remember this.
Speaker 1: You were very breathy in the first one. I was,
Speaker 1: and I was really proud of it. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I should try to find it. I haven't. Please find it.
Speaker 1: It's not that different, it's just it is a little more. Well,
Speaker 1: you don't sound already, you sound like probably like more
Speaker 1: like Kevin because I was singing everything up to that
Speaker 1: point was very much in character. And then I went
Speaker 1: in and we sort of Adam managers like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought that version was great because he and I
Speaker 1: were big fans of the other version. And he's like,
Speaker 1: just saying it through a couple of times, do whatever
Speaker 1: you want, which never happened. Everything was very intentional, and
Speaker 1: so I went in and saying it, I think two
Speaker 1: or three times all the way through. He's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: are you happy with that? I'm like yeah. And that
Speaker 1: was it. So that that version is a little rougher.
Speaker 1: It's not as good, but it's so good though. Thanks.
Speaker 1: I didn't love it as much, but I was very
Speaker 1: happy to I also when you're watching that, so the
Speaker 1: filming of that as well, my mustaches started to grow back. Well,
Speaker 1: you also look so tiny with that guitar sitting on
Speaker 1: your lips. You look so tiny. It's all I remember
Speaker 1: is like, I have to fake this guitar again. You
Speaker 1: have to learn it again. The last shot of the
Speaker 1: day on that stage, my mustache, the doubble has grown back.
Speaker 1: I'm a harry sixteen year old and um shout out
Speaker 1: to Aaron who was the stunt double fathering him because
Speaker 1: he is actually in a wheelchair is incredible and if
Speaker 1: you look closely, you'll see it whenever down that hallway
Speaker 1: doing the tricks. He doesn't have, you know, the safeties
Speaker 1: on like I do. They go magically, they magically disappear.
Speaker 1: But um, he's someone that he goes, you know, to
Speaker 1: the skate parks and do flips and tricks and he
Speaker 1: he was runner up last year, and um, and America's
Speaker 1: got talent. Extreme, he's and if you go watch videos
Speaker 1: of him, he's absolutely insane. I don't know how he
Speaker 1: does these things, but we were so lucky to get him,
Speaker 1: and he came in and did all those incredible tricks
Speaker 1: that I would never be able to do. So dancing
Speaker 1: with myself was a big, you know, a big moment
Speaker 1: for me and for Artie. It felt like a big deal.
Speaker 1: And I got to do that slow mo for the
Speaker 1: first time, like we talked about with Paris, which was
Speaker 1: really fun and I looked crazy, but I remember Paris
Speaker 1: telling me just flip your hair and laugh really loud,
Speaker 1: and I remember Amber being on the other side of
Speaker 1: the table and making laughing at me, and we were
Speaker 1: we were actually then ended up laughing a lot because
Speaker 1: it's you know, when you have two fake laugh you
Speaker 1: end up laughing because it's a stupid anyway, so you
Speaker 1: just like laugh anyway. Um, this isn't about me, but
Speaker 1: I think it is. But that was that was crazy
Speaker 1: to see you shoot that because you had to do
Speaker 1: it at warp speed. I don't know how you actually
Speaker 1: it looks like very correct, your your mouth moving, um,
Speaker 1: saying the proper words, because like I feel like doing
Speaker 1: it at warp speed, You're like your brain is like, okay,
Speaker 1: just say gibberish. I mean I had done it before
Speaker 1: because of the boy band days where we did some
Speaker 1: SloMo on a train track, and I think I I
Speaker 1: had to do that before, So yeah, I and I
Speaker 1: liked the challenge of it because it is insane. Um,
Speaker 1: and I did it with p I T I did
Speaker 1: for a bunch of numbers. Going forward, Okay, so everyone
Speaker 1: gets into wheelchairs, we start to have a bake sale.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait a second, I have to talk
Speaker 1: about Naya here. This was a special thing she did
Speaker 1: for us because I sort of because she was fully
Speaker 1: doing it as a joke for us, and then the
Speaker 1: one they actually I remember her screaming when she saw
Speaker 1: the final version of it, like, oh my god, they
Speaker 1: used to take but it's so good. One time did it?
Speaker 1: That way is the one they used her her stuff
Speaker 1: in Proud Mary and and in this are golden nuggets. Yes,
Speaker 1: I couldn't take my eyes off of her golden nuggets. Um. Okay.
Speaker 1: So we have the big sale where uh Frankentine we
Speaker 1: get to see him probably improvised, kicking this wheelchair so
Speaker 1: large to this wheelchair. Um. And we have the big sale. Right.
Speaker 1: This is also where we meet Becky for the first time.
Speaker 1: That's right, Becky and Brittany are together, and by the
Speaker 1: very talented Lauren Potter, who goes on to be in
Speaker 1: the rest of this series. Oh yes, oh yes. She
Speaker 1: starts off in like Sue Sylvester's kind of storyline her sister,
Speaker 1: and then she really takes a turn and you know,
Speaker 1: we work with Lauren throughout the entire series, which was
Speaker 1: really fun to have her. And this the bake Sales
Speaker 1: where we're kind of get into the other storyline about
Speaker 1: Quinn and Finn. Finn having to get a job because
Speaker 1: Quinn has all of these bills to pay for her
Speaker 1: for the baby that she is raising. Just choosing to
Speaker 1: raise with him, and she's like, tell me, I chose
Speaker 1: the right man, Um messy, we'll get into all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so everybody has to be in these wheelchairs, right, And
Speaker 1: that one of my favorite lines, which I think is
Speaker 1: a contender for Ardi Takes, is when Already admits like
Speaker 1: he his feelings are hurt because everybody has been very
Speaker 1: insensitive and Rachel says, we didn't think you would take
Speaker 1: your personally, and Already says, well, you're you're chaining most
Speaker 1: of the time, but don't take that personally. And your
Speaker 1: delivery was very good, um excellent, excellent, and it's very funny.
Speaker 1: I thought it was very funny. I enjoyed watching Leah's
Speaker 1: um performance in these first couple choir room scenes because
Speaker 1: she is doing something that I thought was very smart
Speaker 1: where she's still playing you know what happened in the
Speaker 1: last episode, in the episode before that, and carrying it
Speaker 1: through of she's trying to not speak up, you know,
Speaker 1: when the whole defined gravity thing comes up, like she's
Speaker 1: trying and then she doesn't really the thing that she
Speaker 1: doesn't really talk bad about the whole already bus situation
Speaker 1: in that first choreroom scene. No, she doesn't. But then
Speaker 1: arties like, no, well already likes to just tell it
Speaker 1: like it is. So then everybody gets in these wheelchairs
Speaker 1: and we have this montage of people figuring out how
Speaker 1: to use the wheelchairs. And if Beef stroken off on
Speaker 1: Lea was absolutely she really gets it. Um between the
Speaker 1: slushies and that I was like so gnarly, but it's
Speaker 1: pretty Yeah, everybody in the wheel stress is very funny. Um.
Speaker 1: And Tina, Tina's you know, playing the game, and she
Speaker 1: talks to Already and says, you know, I just didn't
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for you. Now, I
Speaker 1: didn't realize how hard this was. And um, I don't
Speaker 1: think that Tina really had to justify she wasn't really
Speaker 1: the one who was, you know, being insensitive towards him anyway.
Speaker 1: But I digress. Um. And you share about your car
Speaker 1: accident and yeah, I'd say that it was um car
Speaker 1: accident with my mother. Um. And people have pointed out
Speaker 1: that the age doesn't match up, like how old I
Speaker 1: am and how old I was at the time, and
Speaker 1: that doesn't really matter. Conne afterwards, Oh boy, um, already,
Speaker 1: what did you say? Kevin M But I want to
Speaker 1: be very clear. I still have the use of my penis,
Speaker 1: which is important. Yeah, I wanted her to know. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're a teenager and he's presumably getting his first
Speaker 1: crush on the super hot Tina that he you know
Speaker 1: what matters at that age. It's like you want to
Speaker 1: feel competitive with all the other guys that you could
Speaker 1: be dating or hooking up with, and way to break
Speaker 1: the the mood. It got a little serious, you know,
Speaker 1: just al that's already having no game but already actually
Speaker 1: has a lot of game. I think, well, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the creating a monster here, because then already goes
Speaker 1: on to just crush um. So we get, all right,
Speaker 1: how do we how do we break this down? There's
Speaker 1: a lot that comes up. So what's going on here
Speaker 1: as well? So we've met Becky at the bakes. The
Speaker 1: other storyline sort of within this, within this as well,
Speaker 1: is while Shoe is trying to get Figgins to you know,
Speaker 1: give him more money for for the for the bus,
Speaker 1: for the bus, for handicapped ramps around the school. Whilst
Speaker 1: rams around the school, um, he brings in um sue
Speaker 1: because he's inspired. Figgins is inspired because it's free. UM.
Speaker 1: By this inclusion of everyone. So Figgins then forces Sue
Speaker 1: to hold auditions and she has to pick somebody who
Speaker 1: she wouldn't normally and so through these incredible bring it
Speaker 1: on like auditions, I was gonna say, yeah, can we
Speaker 1: do that all the time? Can they just do a
Speaker 1: show like that where we can just watch auditions happen?
Speaker 1: Because this was my favorite. We also this is this
Speaker 1: is the second shot. Now we see of Um with
Speaker 1: Fink fastly think by Um Kurt as the wrestler, and
Speaker 1: then she she's now auditioning here, but she comes back
Speaker 1: in for you astute glee fans to come back to
Speaker 1: be part of the glee club. Later on Lawrence, I
Speaker 1: sees Um brought in. Okay, So so the tryouts with
Speaker 1: the cheerios, Um, it's funny, they're funny Ambers auditions, Hey, Mike,
Speaker 1: you only Chris is UM this. I think the baton
Speaker 1: twirling was a thing inspired by Chris's size swords that
Speaker 1: he twirls all the time, and he's been doing it
Speaker 1: for years and he's very good at it. It's very scary.
Speaker 1: It's like small swords. UM. And and then that very
Speaker 1: lanky man who did that very weird CONTORTIONISTUM audition again,
Speaker 1: I like to call it an audition, not to try out. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then we have Becky Jackson and well we don't
Speaker 1: know is that obviously Sue has a sister who has
Speaker 1: Down syndrome as well, and Shoe thinks that she's up
Speaker 1: to something when she um says that Becky Jackson has
Speaker 1: made the team and was married. I mean, and and
Speaker 1: Schuster is worried and we're missing something I thought. I
Speaker 1: thought the storyline was so good, um and done so well.
Speaker 1: And Jane was absolutely absolutely incredible. And for people who
Speaker 1: are used to seeing Jane as Sylvester or if you
Speaker 1: watch her and anything else, she's like Mazel where she
Speaker 1: plays the sort of tough character. The real Jane Lynch
Speaker 1: is Sue that walks into the room to see her sister.
Speaker 1: That is how she greets you in real life. That
Speaker 1: is is calm, calm, inviting, so happy to see you. UM.
Speaker 1: And that scene is so beautiful and um, they are
Speaker 1: both so so good in that. I know, and Robin
Speaker 1: who um has passed away sadly, UM, but you know
Speaker 1: she will. She will make appearances in multiple other episodes
Speaker 1: with Jane as well. And every time it's just um,
Speaker 1: just so beautifully done and shot and performed so and
Speaker 1: in a really nice addition, well this is and this
Speaker 1: is the first time that we actually get to see
Speaker 1: exactly this is like we're humanizing the villain, which at
Speaker 1: this point you kind of had to do a little bit.
Speaker 1: We did. We saw a little bit with rod you know,
Speaker 1: Remington where she was trying and now we see like
Speaker 1: this kind of more very very human side of hers.
Speaker 1: And I think it's nice to see it was it
Speaker 1: was done so well, and I love that, you know,
Speaker 1: it'sn't something that's brought up once and never mentioned again.
Speaker 1: It's something that is recurring through the entire show and
Speaker 1: um and I think it impacted people in real life
Speaker 1: a lot, and it was nice to get you know,
Speaker 1: in one episode two people with um down syndrome who
Speaker 1: were incredible actors and um yeah yeah, I just I
Speaker 1: again had to like look away so I didn't start
Speaker 1: crying during its um alright, So so within that, like
Speaker 1: that's the other storyline, within the bigger storyline. But we
Speaker 1: go back to the Big Sale, right, and they have
Speaker 1: the Big Sale, and we obviously know that Puck is
Speaker 1: the father and he he wants Quinn and he wants
Speaker 1: to show up, so he's going to do something bad
Speaker 1: and he goes to Sandy Royerson and um he gets
Speaker 1: his uh the chronic the chronic lady, the chronic lady,
Speaker 1: and he bakes them into the cupcakes. Because this is
Speaker 1: this goes into the the love triangle sort of of
Speaker 1: the Quinn, Finn and Puck, where they're both Finn and
Speaker 1: Puck are both vying for the attention of Quinn, trying
Speaker 1: to show that they can step up and be fathers
Speaker 1: to this unborn baby, and we're Finn is failing at
Speaker 1: a comical level. He can't get hired as a bus
Speaker 1: boy because he's too tall. Um um uh yeah, what
Speaker 1: he knows how to do. And he ends up raising
Speaker 1: a lot of twelve in the big sale um and
Speaker 1: takes some of it and gives it to Quinn and
Speaker 1: she refuses it. But at that same time Finn shows
Speaker 1: up and it's like, I got a job. This also
Speaker 1: a contention for charity takes of things at an age
Speaker 1: well of of Finn and Rachel going in say he's
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair to get a job, and he had
Speaker 1: staying the saying the wheelchair the whole time. He has
Speaker 1: the job, but you know, you know, also part of
Speaker 1: the storyline is this incredible fight sequence in the hallway,
Speaker 1: but with their we have more stunt doubles this time.
Speaker 1: I remember watching this being shot. Why did we were
Speaker 1: all there for this? We were I think we were
Speaker 1: rehearsing for Proud Mary happened to be during this. We
Speaker 1: were all in the stage right next door to the
Speaker 1: mcchems set, and I remember I had to go shoot
Speaker 1: dancing with myself in the hallway. Were there? I think
Speaker 1: we were there for rehearsals and were running out and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they had. I thought it was a really well executed
Speaker 1: fight sequence because you don't really you can't tell it's
Speaker 1: the stunt doubles. He just wasn't the mohawk fake. And
Speaker 1: also after this incredible Paris tells this incredible story about
Speaker 1: UM the flower in the air from the sort of
Speaker 1: cute food fight baking fight between UM where that scene
Speaker 1: got shut down for a while because there was a
Speaker 1: potential fire hazard risk discrepancy and because the fire yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, um so so okay, So Puck raises the
Speaker 1: UM thanks to the munchies, and then we present that
Speaker 1: money with two already for the bus so he can
Speaker 1: ride with us the sectionals, and you decide that you're
Speaker 1: going to do the bigger the bigger issue at hand
Speaker 1: is the ramps at school, and you're going to donate
Speaker 1: this money so that other kids can also benefit from
Speaker 1: um from the ramps who are in wheelchairs as well.
Speaker 1: So those very kind of you already, and and then
Speaker 1: you you make Tina with that that very generous move in,
Speaker 1: and you make Tina fall in love with you, just
Speaker 1: like real life Jenna, Yeah, exactly. And so Tina and
Speaker 1: already now go on their date together, and we're in
Speaker 1: the hallway, in the very dark hallway again. I don't
Speaker 1: know what we're doing there that late at night, but
Speaker 1: here we are. And the first scene we shot for
Speaker 1: this episode, I feel like it was very early on, yes,
Speaker 1: and I remember being nervous about it because it was
Speaker 1: so early into the opposite. I think it was the
Speaker 1: first scene we shot of our storyline, and I remember
Speaker 1: you and I walking to stage working on our lines,
Speaker 1: working on our lines. We were both very nervous. And also,
Speaker 1: you know, when it's a an intimate scene like this,
Speaker 1: there's two people, it's very quiet. You have all that
Speaker 1: crew who probably aren't paying attention to you because they're
Speaker 1: staring as it feels like there's a hundred people just
Speaker 1: watching you. And Paris is very intimidating. And I also
Speaker 1: this very shortly. I mean, I think this was when
Speaker 1: I found out, like the night before, this is when
Speaker 1: I found out that the stutter was fake. So up
Speaker 1: until this point, I thought the stutter was real. And
Speaker 1: so this changed my whole I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like and and there were pros and cons to it,
Speaker 1: right because it at one point. I never never wanted
Speaker 1: it to feel like I was making fun of a
Speaker 1: person with the who you know has a stutter or
Speaker 1: experienced a stutter. And um, I really took it seriously.
Speaker 1: I did research. I um because Tina actually had tourettes
Speaker 1: to start with, and then they cut that from her
Speaker 1: character and just made it a stutter. And Ian Brennan
Speaker 1: was super excited to tell me about this because, UM,
Speaker 1: he thought I would be excited. I think to have
Speaker 1: this like new layer, UM revealed that we all have
Speaker 1: these like secrets now right, you get to see like
Speaker 1: a deeper layer of Tina and why she did what
Speaker 1: she did. Um, And this is when I kind of
Speaker 1: came up with the the notion of Tina being an
Speaker 1: onion because we didn't see a lot of her and
Speaker 1: to begin with, and so now we're like, we're pulling
Speaker 1: back each layer of her and as we get deeper
Speaker 1: into the season's obviously she comes out with like a
Speaker 1: lot of crazy but earlier and now we get we
Speaker 1: get to see more of her storyline, backstory and who
Speaker 1: she is. So I mean it was also really interesting too.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's like, oh, here's someone that
Speaker 1: we thought we knew, and here's someone you thought you
Speaker 1: knew that you've been playing right, And then it also
Speaker 1: gave you know, Alreadie and Tina conflict and agency to
Speaker 1: be like I thought it was very valid. The way
Speaker 1: I already felt about it, it was like no bitch,
Speaker 1: I was. I was also like, no, give her a chance.
Speaker 1: I know. I was like, this was so short lived,
Speaker 1: so short lived. Anyway, Um, then we kiss, you know,
Speaker 1: kids important thing. It felt like, I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: everybody's watching, but at the same time, like it didn't
Speaker 1: feel like anything because we didn't have to make out right,
Speaker 1: it was like a sweet little and that'd be real.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the first time. Really was this not the
Speaker 1: first time? There's no way, Jenna alright, fine, I thought
Speaker 1: that was later, but okay, right, Um, I just assume
Speaker 1: like there's no way maybe. And what I mean is
Speaker 1: Jenna and I, I mean, nobody needs to know. This
Speaker 1: is what I mean is like we would all kiss
Speaker 1: each other as friends. Yeah, yeah, it's it's Jenna and
Speaker 1: I weren't having some steamy affair. That's not what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like we would, you know what, those partying days, we'd
Speaker 1: all just like kiss each other kissed. He also was innocent, Um,
Speaker 1: but no, yeah, you're right, it probably wasn't the first
Speaker 1: time kissed. And uh, it was just weird that everybody
Speaker 1: was watching any new millions of people were going to
Speaker 1: watch That is very strange to think about because at
Speaker 1: that point to you like, you know, how many millions
Speaker 1: of people are going to be watching it? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And it's such a short scene to feel like I was,
Speaker 1: so we were so nervous about it. But it was
Speaker 1: the first like grounded scene that we had ever done. Yea,
Speaker 1: and you get to see more of both of us,
Speaker 1: both of our characters, so it was nice. Um. And
Speaker 1: then the end of this storyline is Obviously everybody is
Speaker 1: more empathetic towards Artie. We are celebrating you, um, and
Speaker 1: we do pred Mary and proud Mary was. I was
Speaker 1: watching this number with such joy last night. I think
Speaker 1: I cried like four times watching this number. Um from
Speaker 1: laughter from remembering people falling all over the place. Our
Speaker 1: arms were so sore the next day, and also um
Speaker 1: remembering having having to do all these background vocals and
Speaker 1: like lip sync them correctly, and it was it was
Speaker 1: a lot. It was a lot. I remember the recording
Speaker 1: of it a lot. Yes, I wasn't originally supposed to
Speaker 1: do that good job. Remember this, and I think you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have to do that. I think was supposed to
Speaker 1: do it, but it was too low or something like that,
Speaker 1: and so then they had also like storyline wise, it
Speaker 1: made sense for you to do it. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: think it worked out. I think it was just sort
Speaker 1: of one of those things that they had an idea
Speaker 1: and then didn't pan out. But Zach did an incredible job.
Speaker 1: We all were like I can't do that, I can't
Speaker 1: do that move, and he would be like, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: let's do this instead. And the shaky um thing was
Speaker 1: our favorite. That was our favorite move to do because
Speaker 1: it was the easiest. I loved getting to record this
Speaker 1: with you and Amber. Do you remember when we were
Speaker 1: all sitting in the recording studio and Adam was like,
Speaker 1: m okay, let's just try this. We don't really know
Speaker 1: because remember we did get a demo. That's one of
Speaker 1: the only songs we can get a demo for, And
Speaker 1: so I didn't know what the version was going to be,
Speaker 1: and like, how am I going to sing? Can I
Speaker 1: sing that low? We're just kind of throwing things against
Speaker 1: and that number really goes down in history as one
Speaker 1: of my favorite numbers to do. Watch and remember. Um okay. So,
Speaker 1: so we're missing a big storyline here so far that
Speaker 1: we have not talked about, and it is the defying
Speaker 1: gravity of it, the diva which we get to see.
Speaker 1: I mean, this storyline is really Curt and Burt right again,
Speaker 1: we get to see more of the amazing Michael Maalley
Speaker 1: and curtain Burt's relationship really blossom and bloom. You understand
Speaker 1: the two of them, and it's um a lot of
Speaker 1: effing heart. Um again, this is like the heart of
Speaker 1: the show. But h Kurt tells his dad that Um, well,
Speaker 1: Mr Shoo picks the song to find gravity and obviously
Speaker 1: it's going to Rachel, right, but Kurt thought it was
Speaker 1: going to him, and he's upset. Mr She doesn't learn.
Speaker 1: Mr She was just like, I'm not gonna here's here's
Speaker 1: the song, and this is who's doing it, and it's
Speaker 1: Rachel again. And Mercedes isn't happy because she's like what
Speaker 1: the hell? And Kurt is sitting there sort of pensive.
Speaker 1: So he tells Bert in the in his tire store
Speaker 1: or tire shop, which I also was like, oh wheels, Jenna, Jenna. Um,
Speaker 1: I really it took till two for me to figure
Speaker 1: that out. Um. Kurt tells Bert that he wanted the
Speaker 1: solo but he's not considered because it's, you know, performed
Speaker 1: by a woman. And Bert says, well, you sing like
Speaker 1: a girl, you know, in a good way. Um. But
Speaker 1: Mr Hamwill gets really upset. Bert goes to Mr. Principal
Speaker 1: Figgins and Mr. She was like, look, I can't give
Speaker 1: him the part, but we could do a stay off
Speaker 1: or a tryout, right, we let an audition for it.
Speaker 1: This montage of Kurt doing the warm up um, and
Speaker 1: then the phone call is brilliant and heartbreaking and one
Speaker 1: of my favorite of the most tragic moments of the show,
Speaker 1: Like I was, it hits so hard and it really
Speaker 1: it brought again it like brought it back down to
Speaker 1: the ground nous of like what Paris is talking about,
Speaker 1: like bringing into the social issues and the truth in
Speaker 1: the show. And he gets an anonymous phone call saying
Speaker 1: that his son is fact, which is horrible, and like
Speaker 1: what a balance of writing and music, like the scoring
Speaker 1: and the directing of these storylines are all quite different
Speaker 1: and are all boiling at different emotions, and you get
Speaker 1: to that phone call and all of a sudden, this
Speaker 1: feels eerie and dark and troubling, and like in the
Speaker 1: middle of Glee episode where it doesn't you don't normally
Speaker 1: feel that. And Michael Malley, who played Bert, is just
Speaker 1: so so good and he and Chris are both very
Speaker 1: serious actors and take it very seriously and are trying
Speaker 1: to understand where the characters are coming from. And it's
Speaker 1: like every time Bert opens his mouth, you know the
Speaker 1: amount of work and thought that went into that. Yes,
Speaker 1: you would like see Michael Malley every very few like
Speaker 1: the few amount of times that we actually got to
Speaker 1: work with Mike you' always see him in rehearsal, like
Speaker 1: working through it still, like really digging deep into like
Speaker 1: why he's there and what he's doing. And um, and
Speaker 1: I believe that they made each other better actors as well,
Speaker 1: because they're both so excellent at the top of their game. Um. So, uh,
Speaker 1: we have the first Diva off. We have our first
Speaker 1: Diva off and it's a Divine Gravity. Which have you
Speaker 1: heard the song before? Kevin? No, I hadn't heard the
Speaker 1: song before dinner. God. Yeah, I hadn't heard the actual
Speaker 1: version of this song until we did it, maybe after
Speaker 1: years ago. So we okay. So the only version of
Speaker 1: behind Gravity you knew was Kurt was Leah and and
Speaker 1: Chris and then Amber as well. I only pop version,
Speaker 1: that's really I didn't know. And then I went and
Speaker 1: saw Wicked on Broadway, uh, with Jackie and Jeff and
Speaker 1: friend Jackie and jack and I. The song happens, you know,
Speaker 1: in the actual stage musical, and I hadn't realized. I
Speaker 1: was on the edge of my feet, I mean on
Speaker 1: the edge of my feet, mouth open, tears down my face.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, now I get it. I gotta
Speaker 1: listen to Wicked today. Now it's so excited, magical theater
Speaker 1: experience I've ever had. And I looked over and Austin
Speaker 1: was just staring at me, smiling, crying. He's like, I
Speaker 1: was waiting for this moment, proud moment. I had no idea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm well, I'm glad you you've made your way
Speaker 1: around to the Broadway. It couldn't be happier. Um, Kurt
Speaker 1: makes everybody promise. He says, we all know I'm more
Speaker 1: popular than Rachel and I dress better than her, which
Speaker 1: is true. But I want you all to promise me
Speaker 1: that you're going to vote for whoever sings the song better.
Speaker 1: And then he does the unthinkable. He throws it. He
Speaker 1: throws it on this beautifully shot number where we talked
Speaker 1: with Paris about moving, going behind the back road the transitions. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: he intends, really bombs on the high note. And because
Speaker 1: has this really really beautiful moment with Bert, and he said, UM, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm going to hiden the closet. I'm
Speaker 1: proud of who him. I'm just saying that I love
Speaker 1: you more than I love being a star. Because he's
Speaker 1: used to the insults, but Bert isn't. And so he's
Speaker 1: taking the time for them both to grow together into
Speaker 1: you know, Kurt as an out gay man. I don't
Speaker 1: think I ever asked you this, Kevin, did you were
Speaker 1: you like, I know, you were so close to it,
Speaker 1: so maybe it's too close for comfort, But like, were
Speaker 1: you affected by these storylines like as a gay man,
Speaker 1: or like was it just to kind of like in
Speaker 1: the world, like intermixed in the world for you? Um,
Speaker 1: I had a very hard time removing myself like from
Speaker 1: so I appreciated it from the standpoint of I watched
Speaker 1: a lot of gay media. There wasn't very much of
Speaker 1: it at the time. I was always desperate for it,
Speaker 1: So I I loved watching them act together. I love
Speaker 1: that these were the scenes that were being seen on
Speaker 1: network television. I understood the importance of that. I didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily relate to Kurt as a person, um, but I
Speaker 1: absolutely adored and was obsessed with these scenes and the storyline.
Speaker 1: UM because this this didn't we were doing a lot
Speaker 1: of things that didn't happen on network television. And I
Speaker 1: was excited because I knew like the work I had
Speaker 1: to do to try to find shows that had gay storylines,
Speaker 1: and my parents will see this, you know, parents of kids,
Speaker 1: gay kids. It was more like the you were feeling
Speaker 1: like I'm a part of the impact of like what.
Speaker 1: I was happy to be associated with a show that
Speaker 1: was doing things like this. That makes sense, That makes sense. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, so's the time for Tardy Takes. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's the episode. That's what else. I again, one
Speaker 1: of our favorites, and obviously should be yours because obviously
Speaker 1: there's only two songs in it. It's there's a lot
Speaker 1: that happens in it though, and um, you get to
Speaker 1: see a lot of everyone. It's yeah, you do, It's nice,
Speaker 1: it's nice Tardy Takes. All right. So the cringe moment
Speaker 1: ak we're calling them ou cheese now, thanks Paris. These
Speaker 1: are the auchies and things that are cringe e Um,
Speaker 1: I think I have to steal paris Is one about
Speaker 1: Mr shooting Mercedes. Don't worry, We'll find something for you
Speaker 1: to dip in chocolate. Yeah that there's no just doesn't
Speaker 1: there's no coming back, no, no, we should just yeah. Okay, um, jail,
Speaker 1: So the worst dance move was unseen. I think this
Speaker 1: is okay. Imagine the ramp and imagine Amber coming around
Speaker 1: the corner, so clipping the side. So picture of the ramps,
Speaker 1: the stage ramp thing weren't two sizes right, there was
Speaker 1: the upper level. Did you come down to like a
Speaker 1: middle level and then you go down to the actual stage.
Speaker 1: Amber was on the middle level trying to make a
Speaker 1: turn from the side down to the main ramp. She
Speaker 1: didn't make it. She clipped it the side at the
Speaker 1: corner and she went flat sideways and she fell wheel.
Speaker 1: Her side wheel is turning still. It was. It wasn't
Speaker 1: funny because she was so upset, but he was. It
Speaker 1: was also just like it was slow because none of
Speaker 1: us were moving quickly in those wheelchairs on those ramps. Exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh god, too many people felt okay, so that was
Speaker 1: Leah had a Leah took a tumble as well. I
Speaker 1: think on the actual I think it was in the
Speaker 1: actual day of film that she just felt she went down, Um,
Speaker 1: the best song I have to vote dancing with myself,
Speaker 1: I would I think I would say Brad Mary Wow,
Speaker 1: I just loved that so much. Yeah, and also you
Speaker 1: wouldn't pick your own song so well, okay, but that
Speaker 1: was all sound great together. We did, we did, we
Speaker 1: sounded good. Best performance by a prop obviously the wheelchairs
Speaker 1: or maybe the flower uh. And then things that h
Speaker 1: well and didn't edge well. Um. So there's a line
Speaker 1: Kevin where Quinn says, they're not going to buy you know,
Speaker 1: bake goods from losers were in a wheelchair and we're
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and I was like, oh gosh, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: they had some of those some of you glee club
Speaker 1: folk had some words about the wheelchairs that were simply
Speaker 1: not okay, not great. Um. And then the best line,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Oh man, I think there's a lot.
Speaker 1: I do like the line of already talking to Rachel,
Speaker 1: I do take your irritating was the time we don't
Speaker 1: take that personally? Um, but I sort of. There's also
Speaker 1: the incredible line I don't want to give all them away.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what yours is, but I think
Speaker 1: mine was the burnt line of you seem like a girl,
Speaker 1: you know, in a good way. Look, I don't know
Speaker 1: how this music stuff works. I'm pretty exclusively committed to
Speaker 1: my Melochamp collection. But isn't there more crossover nowadays? You know,
Speaker 1: chicks doing construction, guys wearing dress shoes and no socks,
Speaker 1: I think that's my and Chris's reaction to that was
Speaker 1: also yes, really good. Um, okay, what do you got
Speaker 1: for me, Kevin? This is ship we found on TikTok
Speaker 1: this week. Um, this one is hilarious and very random.
Speaker 1: So Alive Raves on TikTok Um has Yeah, Jenn, are
Speaker 1: you watching it now? A theory that Harry Styles was
Speaker 1: mimicking the one and only Finn Hudson dance moves the
Speaker 1: stomp and like the shoulder move. You see Harry doing
Speaker 1: that and it looks very familiar. I don't know if
Speaker 1: there's a world in which it's related. That's really funny,
Speaker 1: but it's fun to think like a little sixteen year
Speaker 1: old Harry Styles just stomping very you know, very much
Speaker 1: like Corey would do very good. Maybe Harry was a fan.
Speaker 1: Apparently he came up, you know, with the name One Direction.
Speaker 1: Sounds like New Directions. I don't know though, But do
Speaker 1: you remember Simon cal being a big Glee fan because
Speaker 1: we so. I sort of knew Simon because I would
Speaker 1: go see American Idol tapings and talk to him with
Speaker 1: Rob Stringer, who was the he's the chairman of Sony Records. Um,
Speaker 1: in Columbia who we were signed with the Glee and
Speaker 1: he would talk about how much he loved Glee and
Speaker 1: how um impactful he thought it was and how important
Speaker 1: he thought it wasn't what how important the work was doing,
Speaker 1: you know, showing these songs to new audiences and demographics.
Speaker 1: And so then we performed on X Factor in the
Speaker 1: UK and he'll see there's pictures of us meeting one
Speaker 1: direction back when they were on it, And I remember
Speaker 1: Rob Stringer coming back and being like, and Ryan Dreg
Speaker 1: why not Ryan Dante being like, why this Simon? Why
Speaker 1: is Simon obsessed with you? It's like, he's not obsessed
Speaker 1: with me. I know he's obsessed with Artie because he thinks,
Speaker 1: you know, showing a kid who was in a wheelchair, um,
Speaker 1: given the power of the music and the Glee Club
Speaker 1: of being supported like that, that to him encapsulated what
Speaker 1: was important about Glee, of showing the underdogs of people
Speaker 1: who normally wouldn't get to be on network television and
Speaker 1: seen by millions of people, and those stories being seen.
Speaker 1: And so I really thought he was he was always
Speaker 1: very supportive of the show. He was and I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe Harry Styles was a fan and he was poppy.
Speaker 1: Finn Hudson's moves named after new directions. Who knows funny. Um,
Speaker 1: well that's all we got for you. That's it. That's it,
Speaker 1: that's the rest of the show. That's it. We're done
Speaker 1: and I'm kidding. Thank you for joining us and listening
Speaker 1: to We love that so we hope you enjoyed it
Speaker 1: as well, and bously check out Paris's episode if you haven't.
Speaker 1: Next week is Ballade valid. Also, by the way, um,
Speaker 1: over the holidays, we kept turning out episodes, so if
Speaker 1: you have not gone back to listen to get back there,
Speaker 1: get back there and next miss recording. There's Kent Hammered,
Speaker 1: Howard bambook he joined us. There's some Darren Chris as well,
Speaker 1: so go back listen to those. Jenna, it was great fun.
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