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<v Speaker 1>The following.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>This he's Talking Cowboys Training live from.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dallas Cowboys World.

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<v Speaker 2>Course at the Star in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 4>Six seconds dot TI twenty touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>And now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 2>and Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black

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<v Speaker 5>Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas,

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<v Speaker 5>in the SWBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. It is the

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<v Speaker 5>final official Talking Cowboys of Training Camp twenty twenty five. Bye,

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<v Speaker 5>it is done.

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<v Speaker 6>It is sea.

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<v Speaker 5>The preseason is almost over as well, and we will

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<v Speaker 5>preview the final preseason match up.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say really quick, Lana Falcons, Yes, what's that? Sorry?

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, you want to just like interrupt my I do?

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<v Speaker 7>I do because I'm concerned. Patrick looks a little pale

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<v Speaker 7>this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting there.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh you're looking over this morning. I like the impression there.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a pretty good show.

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<v Speaker 5>Returning to the Talking Thank You Boys set for the

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<v Speaker 5>first time in god knows how long. It's been one

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<v Speaker 5>of the best hosts we've ever seen an high riser

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<v Speaker 5>in this industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, mister Nick Harris of the fort Worth starting.

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<v Speaker 8>What's up me, It's great to be back. Don't tell anybody.

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<v Speaker 8>This is my favorite show.

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<v Speaker 9>Around these parts, round these parts, yeah, around these parts.

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<v Speaker 9>So I missed this. I miss this little setting. I'm

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<v Speaker 9>sure Chris Bean does not miss me showing up at

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<v Speaker 9>nine oh one. But this is this is this is

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<v Speaker 9>my This is how you get I'm good. I'm good

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<v Speaker 9>at home.

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<v Speaker 1>See beams good, We're all good. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 8>Hap We're happy to have.

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<v Speaker 6>You, buddy, Thank you man.

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<v Speaker 7>I missed the dynamic. I miss chatting up with you.

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<v Speaker 7>I missed the notes and newts every morning face Josh,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean the eye candy of talking cowboys.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I'm on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>The only rule of this is is if you're late,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to bring coffee and donuts.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, especially on Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>Noted, where's the donuts.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the big thing. Yeah, especially on Halloween. Sorry, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>that was an actual thing that happened. I got stuck

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<v Speaker 5>in traffic and the I had gotten donuts beforehand, because

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh, I'm good, like I brought these.

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<v Speaker 5>I went and bought donuts at this little shot by

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<v Speaker 5>my house. But then traffic was the worst traffic I've

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<v Speaker 5>ever seen in my life, Like on my way in,

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<v Speaker 5>I ended up being like fifteen minutes late, but I

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<v Speaker 5>had donuts. Beam was convinced that I had gotten donuts

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<v Speaker 5>after being stuck in traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like chance late. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>He thinks I did it on purpose, but it was

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<v Speaker 5>actually a pre emptive donut run that ended up in traffic,

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<v Speaker 5>as opposed to like me being nice and saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I was already stuck in traffic, Like we love you, Kyle.

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<v Speaker 8>You were just trying to head your bet.

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<v Speaker 1>We get it. That's what it was. That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 6>You can't be the guy that's late that didn't bring me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. But yeah, Nick Harris four Orth Star Telegram

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<v Speaker 1>is back.

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<v Speaker 5>He was at open practice last night, Cowboys wrapping up

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<v Speaker 5>training camp here at the Start in Frisco. A couple

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<v Speaker 5>fun practices to cap things off. I saw really some

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<v Speaker 5>really good stuff last night. Ceedee Lamb had an incredible

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<v Speaker 5>grab back at the end zone.

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<v Speaker 7>And to that point on dallascowboys dot Com, Kyle Yeomans

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<v Speaker 7>was killing it on the broadcast. Thank you and on

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<v Speaker 7>a twenty one thank you. Not to mention, but I

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<v Speaker 7>just love the presentation that you guys had. I know

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<v Speaker 7>we do it every year, but yeah, like Guessterday was

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<v Speaker 7>particularly really great.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>The biggest thing about those broadcasts is you can't show

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<v Speaker 5>anything because of the coaching staff restrictions.

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<v Speaker 8>I felt like you could show more this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh kind of okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Then previous years.

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<v Speaker 5>There were previous years where there were no numbers on

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<v Speaker 5>the jerseys, no numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And names the jerseys.

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<v Speaker 5>And we were doing this broadcast and we were at

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<v Speaker 5>at and T Stadium, and we were up on the

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<v Speaker 5>third level trying to decipher who we knew who CD

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<v Speaker 5>Lamb was, Todown, we knew who Dak guy, we knew

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<v Speaker 5>we knew who like the big name guys were.

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<v Speaker 1>But outside of that, it was.

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<v Speaker 7>Like insane pass breakup by Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I have no idea who that is. It's

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<v Speaker 5>available online, right, yeah, oh y poadcast, So go back

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<v Speaker 5>and watch it. If you didn't watch it. There was

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<v Speaker 5>some good stuff last night that we were able to show,

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<v Speaker 5>but they were still they had we had to make

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<v Speaker 5>sure every everything was tight from a camera angle and

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<v Speaker 5>so there were a couple of times where we weren't

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<v Speaker 5>even showing the ball and I was just like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>can't talk about what's happening on the field currently.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Nate looked at me after we were done, He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we were a little quiet last night. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't talk about what was on the field the

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<v Speaker 1>same way.

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<v Speaker 7>That's fair, But then again it is also open to

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<v Speaker 7>the public, So there's just a fine line between all

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<v Speaker 7>of that, right, It's all a balance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's all a balance.

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<v Speaker 5>But it is available online if you missed it last night.

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<v Speaker 5>We had some good conversation, for sure. The CD Lamb catch,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought his second foot was out of bounce, uh huh,

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<v Speaker 5>And then we went back and replayed it and then

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<v Speaker 5>of course he was totally in bounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an incredible play, a.

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<v Speaker 6>Beam in the back.

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<v Speaker 9>It was a push off, it was definitely and he

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<v Speaker 9>got flagged for it, but it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was still cool man, But I thought his foot

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<v Speaker 5>was What were your thoughts Nick last night? As we

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<v Speaker 5>got into the second open practice here.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, Brian Schottenheimer on what is what is today

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<v Speaker 9>Today's Thursday on Tuesday, Uh, he said that he wanted

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<v Speaker 9>two practices that were ass kickers, and so I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, the physicality was certainly ramped up these these

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<v Speaker 9>last two days.

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<v Speaker 8>I thought it was a little bit more last night.

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<v Speaker 9>You had more bodies on the ground as a result,

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<v Speaker 9>but I thought, you know, the physicality was definitely ramped

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<v Speaker 9>up in a positive way, in a positive way because

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't see anybody leave the field yesterday. Luke scoon

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<v Speaker 9>Maker did leave on Tuesday night, but I didn't see

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<v Speaker 9>anybody depart the field last night.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think overall, you know, they got what they

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<v Speaker 8>wanted out of these two practices.

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<v Speaker 9>And I caught Schottenheimer coming off the field and I

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<v Speaker 9>was like, so it was was it an ass kicker?

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<v Speaker 9>He just laughed, He's like, yeah, Well, I was like

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<v Speaker 9>all right, And so, you know, I think that's just

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<v Speaker 9>what they're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>The physicality is something that he's preached all training camp.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, when the when the Rams came into

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<v Speaker 9>Oxnard for that joint practice, I think they they kind

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<v Speaker 9>of got hit in the mouth a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 9>the physicality I think probably took on a little bit

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<v Speaker 9>more intention after that. And so you've you've seen that

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<v Speaker 9>here in the last last couple of weeks as far

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<v Speaker 9>as them, you know, trying to be a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, thudding and hitting. But it's been good to see,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, this this last preseason game. There's a couple

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<v Speaker 9>of position battles that are still up for grabs. I'm

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<v Speaker 9>sure we'll dive into him. It's gonna be see to

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<v Speaker 9>how some of these fifty three spots shake out. You're

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<v Speaker 9>gonna see some surprises next week, and I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 9>see what those are. I got a couple in mind,

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<v Speaker 9>but I think this fifty three cut is going to

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<v Speaker 9>be fascinating to evaluate.

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<v Speaker 7>I was curious, and you guys would know better than me.

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<v Speaker 7>Why was Doron Bland not out there? I know he was,

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<v Speaker 7>he was stretching, but I didn't see him in any

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<v Speaker 7>of the drills or anything thing like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Wasn't in pads, wasn't in pads. Was there a reason why?

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<v Speaker 9>Probably an undisclosed thing he's dealing with, but I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 9>consider it anything major on.

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<v Speaker 7>The d A D list again, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That one up to Yeah, that one up to the interpretation.

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<v Speaker 8>Three time D list yet yeah all day, uh.

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<v Speaker 5>But uh yeah, at one time, yeah, The big thing

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<v Speaker 5>for for Bland is if there was gonna be something major,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like it would have been a bigger storyline

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<v Speaker 5>for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>And he was there.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, he was at practice, so that was the

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<v Speaker 7>only thing that was really concerning to me. But I

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<v Speaker 7>really loved specifically the blitz period and the red zone

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<v Speaker 7>period yesterday. I mean, granted, that's that's whenever like practice

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<v Speaker 7>really started, you know what I mean. Of course you

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<v Speaker 7>have your special team's drills and all of that going

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<v Speaker 7>for the first like ten to fifteen minutes of practice.

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<v Speaker 8>Love special teams drills, man.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's it's great. It's just riveting television.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, what's your favorite the punting or the kicking, it's

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<v Speaker 5>all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, cool special teams.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, man, Brian Inger hit some some gnarly

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<v Speaker 7>douns in those punts. Yeah, he's a boomer, not in

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<v Speaker 7>that way.

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<v Speaker 1>We were up there.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, it's the same box that like we do

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<v Speaker 5>Frisco isd games in and Nicky Eatman looked over, he's

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<v Speaker 5>any of those high school kids from Frisco punting like that,

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, not in a million years. I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, sorry, but no, they're kind of like Brian

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<v Speaker 5>angers and dudes.

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<v Speaker 8>They don't have bangers, they have dangers.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 5>What were some of your takeaways from last night watching

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<v Speaker 5>those red zone and those blitz periods.

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<v Speaker 7>The blitz period was fascinating to me, and like of

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<v Speaker 7>course you guys breaking it down was really fascinating. But

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<v Speaker 7>in terms of like first team second team, I really

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<v Speaker 7>noticed that Dak was just on one yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>He had a lot of zip on the ball.

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<v Speaker 7>He was getting the ball out early to Ferg I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>obviously relying on his security blanket out there.

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<v Speaker 6>He had a great scene through yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>I felt that timing was off in some areas more

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<v Speaker 7>often than others. With the second team, Joe Milton, I

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<v Speaker 7>think you started off with a really good scramble and

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<v Speaker 7>then he was kind of starting his aired passes, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>throwing behind guys like Jalen Cropper. He was dead to

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<v Speaker 7>rights on a corner blitz yet again by Izzy Israel mccuamou,

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<v Speaker 7>but he had to go good throat of hold in

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<v Speaker 7>at one point and then he kind of got into

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<v Speaker 7>a rhythm towards the end of that blitz period. Of course,

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<v Speaker 7>the bomb to Jalen Brooks was insane right before that,

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<v Speaker 7>he had a great pass to hold in. So there

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<v Speaker 7>was a bit of a progression yesterday that I haven't

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<v Speaker 7>seen from Joe Milton in at least a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, Okay, he's picking on to something here.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think about Milton in yesterday's practice.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I thought he was a lot more clean, and

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<v Speaker 9>he was a lot more clean on Tuesday night as

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<v Speaker 9>well as far as being consistent. You know, there were

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<v Speaker 9>still some times where that bad footwork is showing up.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, in a situation where I think if

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<v Speaker 9>you can break down Joe Milton and really kind of

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<v Speaker 9>understand the footwork that he puts out on tape, it

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<v Speaker 9>feels like on some throws he's putting like seventy five

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<v Speaker 9>percent of his weight on his front foot and that

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<v Speaker 9>just really allows him to push the ball a little.

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<v Speaker 8>Bit further than you know he intends to.

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<v Speaker 9>And that's such a big intention that him and quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 9>coach Steve shimco Brian Shot, they're all trying to work

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<v Speaker 9>on with him, and it's gonna take time.

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<v Speaker 8>That's that's the that's the reality of it.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, you hope that you don't need Joe Milton

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<v Speaker 9>for an extended period of time this year because I'm

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<v Speaker 9>not sure he's going to be ready for that. But

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<v Speaker 9>if he can clean up these little footwork things, I

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<v Speaker 9>think he does have potential moving forward.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, don't tell him he throws the ball hard.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, that was what was that?

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<v Speaker 7>That was like an agro sort of response from him yesterday,

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm tired of talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say something random cowboy jo he did.

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<v Speaker 9>Said, he literally did say, let's clear the air. I

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<v Speaker 9>don't throw the ball hard. We just kind of like

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<v Speaker 9>look at each other like yeah, yeah, yeah, facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Facts.

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<v Speaker 6>Meanwhile, it's a sonic.

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<v Speaker 5>But like every time he works one my favorite.

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<v Speaker 8>Broken like fifteen fingers at camps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my favorite tweet tell hundred Licky that about.

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<v Speaker 5>The whole scenario is like, if you need somebody to

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<v Speaker 5>throw the ball seventy five yards, Joe Milton can throw

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<v Speaker 5>it seventy five yards. If you need somebody to throw

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<v Speaker 5>the ball forty five yards, Joe Milton can throw.

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<v Speaker 1>It seventy five yards. It's true. I mean that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like. Even last night when he released the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>To Jalen Brooks, and we were sitting up there in

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<v Speaker 5>the booth calling the practice.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear me on the broadcast. I went, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>like it just it, It zips out of his hand.

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<v Speaker 5>He has just the arm talent. I get it, I

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<v Speaker 5>really do. Everything else is tough. That's the and so

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<v Speaker 5>I get why there's there are NFL teams. Cowboys, of

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<v Speaker 5>course are the number one interest here, but there are

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<v Speaker 5>NFL teams that would be interested in Milton outside of

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<v Speaker 5>the Cowboys because of the possibility there, because he does

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<v Speaker 5>he has an unreal arm talent.

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<v Speaker 1>But like you said, tying into the footwork.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was a conversation I had with him early

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<v Speaker 5>in camp was what are you working on after practice?

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<v Speaker 5>What are you doing in your spare time and through

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<v Speaker 5>your walkthroughs? He stood after in ox Nard a couple

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<v Speaker 5>times after walkthroughs as well and.

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<v Speaker 1>Was working with some receivers. What are you working on there?

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<v Speaker 5>He said, I want to tie the timing of my

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<v Speaker 5>receivers to my feet. He said, I want to try

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<v Speaker 5>and piece this together and piece my footwork together to

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<v Speaker 5>where it's steady and it's consistent. We haven't seen that consistency.

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<v Speaker 5>We've seen some flashes. We've seen the right throws. Like

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<v Speaker 5>you said, the timing this week I think has been

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<v Speaker 5>the best out of any time point in camp. And

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<v Speaker 5>maybe that's just a byproduct of reps. Maybe that's a

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<v Speaker 5>byproduct of the system and learning the playbook a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more in depth. Whatever it may be, Milton has

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<v Speaker 5>looked better this week than he has. It's not gonna

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<v Speaker 5>matter if he goes out there and lays an egg

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<v Speaker 5>on Friday. That's just playing and simple. He's got to

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<v Speaker 5>have another really good preseason game or a really good

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<v Speaker 5>preseason game.

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<v Speaker 1>I should say it that way.

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<v Speaker 5>Then we can talk about, Okay, is he ready for

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<v Speaker 5>a quarterback two scenario or is this a situation where

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<v Speaker 5>we need to go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 7>And to your point you just alluded to it too,

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<v Speaker 7>is the timing. I think he's working on that obviously

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<v Speaker 7>as he's going along. And that's why Brighton Schenheimer wants

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<v Speaker 7>him to have more snaps and get the bulk of

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<v Speaker 7>the snaps in preseason. But you see it a time

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<v Speaker 7>and time again, and I think Babelffenberg was it on

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<v Speaker 7>Twitter that broke down his play versus Will Greer and

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<v Speaker 7>like getting uh, I think it was just an out

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<v Speaker 7>route to Cropper.

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<v Speaker 8>It was the scene.

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<v Speaker 6>It was it was it was a seam sixteen to.

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<v Speaker 7>Eighteen yards and that's where you want to hit it,

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<v Speaker 7>and he broke it down perfectly. This is where you

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<v Speaker 7>want to place the ball. And Joe Milton missed that

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<v Speaker 7>timing window and it was glaring and it's obvious. And

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<v Speaker 7>then you compare it to Will Greer, who did the

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<v Speaker 7>exact same play in the fourth quarter and he nailed it.

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<v Speaker 9>So let's say today, right, Dak Prescott's down for four weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's not say that.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's let's just say that that's the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate saying.

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<v Speaker 8>So you need do you throw out Will Creer? Do

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<v Speaker 8>you throw out Joe Milton?

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<v Speaker 9>I will agree I would throw out I think I'm

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<v Speaker 9>probably throwing out Greer too at this point, and I

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<v Speaker 9>think the comp staff would too. I think, and I

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<v Speaker 9>think something very important that Brian Schenheimer's emphasized multiple times, like,

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<v Speaker 9>we have.

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<v Speaker 8>Not named a backup quarterbacks. We have not named a

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<v Speaker 8>backup quarterback.

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<v Speaker 9>And so whenever we follow up with okay, then why

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<v Speaker 9>is Milton getting all these reps? He says, we need

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<v Speaker 9>to learn more about Joe Milton. We know about Will Greer,

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<v Speaker 9>which is understanding of Joe Milton, so I understand that,

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<v Speaker 9>uh philosophy here in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 8>Gosh, I had another point that I was gonna make

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<v Speaker 8>just completely. You know, I'm not give you more, I'll

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<v Speaker 8>give you time here.

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<v Speaker 5>The one thing that plays off of that, the only

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<v Speaker 5>person that doesn't benefit from the or actually there's a

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<v Speaker 5>couple people that don't benefit, but one person that doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>benefit from those reps for Milton his career because he

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<v Speaker 5>wants to get in touch, he wants to get in rhythm,

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<v Speaker 5>he wants to be there. The other people that might

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<v Speaker 5>not have it is as Joe Milton's trying to figure

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<v Speaker 5>it out. It makes it tougher for these wide receivers

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<v Speaker 5>and for these pass catchers and for this offense to

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<v Speaker 5>be evaluated accurately. That's the big thing that I think

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<v Speaker 5>is being maybe not sacrificed, but at least hindered to

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<v Speaker 5>a certain extent, because when you're two for eight in

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<v Speaker 5>the first half against the Ravens in Week two of

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<v Speaker 5>the preseason, are you getting a good look at this offense?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you able to evaluate guys deeper on the roster like.

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<v Speaker 5>A tree Shahn Holden or a Josh Kelly or a

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<v Speaker 5>Ryan Flinoy or a Jalen Cropper. Not really, it's but

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<v Speaker 5>you do have the practices to kind of supplement that.

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<v Speaker 5>But in a preseason setting, in a preseason game setting,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't get the good look because you're having to

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<v Speaker 5>wait on your quarterback to try and figure it out.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, and this is something that Hole brought up after

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<v Speaker 7>the game. Check her out on Twitter. She's amazing at

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<v Speaker 7>it breaking down the film afterwards. But what she said,

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<v Speaker 7>particularly when we're talking even in the booth, about how

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<v Speaker 7>it's like, oh, he's calling a vanilla game, like he's

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<v Speaker 7>calling a vanilla offense on offense and defense. Right, But

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<v Speaker 7>you're supposed to be able to nail those things. You're

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<v Speaker 7>supposed to be able to be in time, even if

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<v Speaker 7>it is vanilla, and you're not doing those things with

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Milton at quarterback right now.

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<v Speaker 6>But again to shot Number's point.

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<v Speaker 7>About we don't know enough about him, he needs to

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<v Speaker 7>be out there, he needs to take the snaps because

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<v Speaker 7>he needs his experience.

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<v Speaker 6>He has had one game basically in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 9>Let me throw another hypothetical at you on Friday, he

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<v Speaker 9>has the same reform as he's had these first couple

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<v Speaker 9>of preseason games. Do you maybe look to maybe trade

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<v Speaker 9>a late Day three pick to go get somebody next week,

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<v Speaker 9>a veteran that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is trusted, A trusted veterans.

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<v Speaker 7>How trusted we talking trusted back up?

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<v Speaker 8>A trusted backup?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would The one pause I have on that

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<v Speaker 5>is that you've done that the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 5>with the Lance and done it, but you've done it

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<v Speaker 5>with projects.

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<v Speaker 8>Hence the dilemma.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would like if I'm going to do it,

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<v Speaker 5>I would like to have a couple of years of

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<v Speaker 5>contract there, so maybe multiple years on his contract and

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<v Speaker 5>whatever that may look like.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, but only because and the.

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<v Speaker 5>Only reason we talk about the backup quarterback position as

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<v Speaker 5>much as we do in the media and around this

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<v Speaker 5>this Cowboys beat is because they've needed it the last

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<v Speaker 5>few years. Out of the last five, they've needed the

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<v Speaker 5>backup quarterback position. And that's that's sort of a knock

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<v Speaker 5>on Dak Prescott, but it's the conversation we've always had.

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<v Speaker 5>If Dak Prescott's healthy, great, but healthy is not always

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<v Speaker 5>a given right. And so when we're looking at Joe

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<v Speaker 5>Milton and we're looking at this backup quarterback competition. There's

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<v Speaker 5>a reason, and you're gonna need it at some point

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<v Speaker 5>in time, most likely, hopefully you don't. Hopefully it's somebody

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<v Speaker 5>that's going to hold a clipboard all year. I'm good

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<v Speaker 5>with that. However, that just hasn't been the reality in

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<v Speaker 5>this franchise the last few years, and Nick just outlined it.

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<v Speaker 5>Over the last five years, you've needed it, So yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I would do it. I would trade a late day

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<v Speaker 5>three pick and go get somebody that I trust.

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<v Speaker 7>At this point, I'm not willing to give up any

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<v Speaker 7>more capital on a backup quarterback situation at this point.

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<v Speaker 7>And that but that's right now because the problem hasn't

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<v Speaker 7>presented itself exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>Like if you're six and one and you need four games,

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<v Speaker 9>it gets me a lot different then exactly.

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<v Speaker 10>See.

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<v Speaker 5>But then the price goes up and instead of a

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<v Speaker 5>six or seventh round pick, we're talking about a fourth

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<v Speaker 5>or a fifth round pick to go get you a

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<v Speaker 5>guy if you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to make a deal, and that sucks.

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<v Speaker 5>If we're going to make a deal and that sucks,

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<v Speaker 5>and go get a quarterback that's trusted, that can take

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<v Speaker 5>over this.

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<v Speaker 1>Team and ultimately take you to the playoffs and have

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<v Speaker 1>some success.

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't want to rely on that problem occurring.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to at least for now. Yeah, you want

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<v Speaker 7>to be banking on the fact that back on the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that you're okay and deal with that problem when

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<v Speaker 7>it comes. And like you said, the price is going

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<v Speaker 7>to go up. But at that point, you know you

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<v Speaker 7>might be desperate enough to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're already in a spot at that.

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<v Speaker 7>Exactly exactly, so I'm not willing to invest any more

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<v Speaker 7>draft capital into that.

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<v Speaker 5>the back. As always, let's give some camp superlatives, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 6>I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Camp is over a month worth.

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<v Speaker 5>Of practices, both split through Oxnard, California and Frisco, Texas

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<v Speaker 5>have now come to a close. So I want to

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<v Speaker 5>start with most improved from the beginning to the end

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<v Speaker 5>of camp. It does include the preseason games. I want

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<v Speaker 5>the whole picture here. Okay, who's the most improved.

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<v Speaker 1>Off of this roster for the Dallas Cowboys in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 6>This feels to me like a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Year award, right, second year jump.

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<v Speaker 6>A second year jump.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 8>I know where you're going with this.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, how could you not.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean Marshall Neeland could be on the list, you

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<v Speaker 7>could say, and not a second year person.

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<v Speaker 6>You could say.

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<v Speaker 7>Dimon Clark could be on this list as far as

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<v Speaker 7>improved last year over this year. But I'm going Maris

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<v Speaker 7>lea Fais. I love what he's done. I love the

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<v Speaker 7>size that he's put on since last year. He's just

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<v Speaker 7>absolutely giving an attitude on the defense that we've desperately

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<v Speaker 7>needed since last season, since of the past three or

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<v Speaker 7>four or five, maybe six seasons. But I love what

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<v Speaker 7>I'm seeing from Marsleefault, and it was indicative in the

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<v Speaker 7>very first play of the first preseason game when he

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<v Speaker 7>absolutely on special team just knocks a dude over dude.

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<v Speaker 6>You'd love to see.

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<v Speaker 7>It for me, Mary Cleefaul at this point, I like it.

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<v Speaker 9>If you had told me at the beginning of training

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<v Speaker 9>camp that Tyler Geiiton would go down with a knee

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<v Speaker 9>injury early on and somebody would have to come into

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<v Speaker 9>his place for the rest of training camp, I would

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<v Speaker 9>have given you about six names before I would have

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<v Speaker 9>gotten to Nate Thomas.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so that's gonna be the one for me.

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<v Speaker 9>Just more of an overall offseason picture for him, but

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<v Speaker 9>specifically at training camp, he's been a huge surprise for

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<v Speaker 9>me stepping into that left tackle role. Now there's still

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<v Speaker 9>some green to him, and there's still some things, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>he's clearly got to learn, and boy, you hope he

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<v Speaker 9>doesn't have to go out there week one against Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 9>or even Week two against New York. But I think

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<v Speaker 9>when you talk about his rise and you talk about

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<v Speaker 9>the confidence that he's built in his coaching staff, I

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<v Speaker 9>got to turn to Nate Thomas, another second year guy

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<v Speaker 9>technically in his first year playing, but in a second

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<v Speaker 9>year in the program.

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<v Speaker 13>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think when you put it the way you did,

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<v Speaker 5>where Nate Thomas was on IR for much of his

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<v Speaker 5>rookie season, the entire of it, he wasn't even a

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<v Speaker 5>part of these practices. This is really a training camp

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<v Speaker 5>for him to find out how to play NFL football.

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<v Speaker 5>And then he's thrown into the left tackle spot and

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<v Speaker 5>he's done a good job. Is he NFL ready to

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<v Speaker 5>be a seventeen game NFL left tackle? Probably not, But

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<v Speaker 5>are you able to get a couple spot starts out

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<v Speaker 5>of him if you need to, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 5>what you need here with Tyler Geitton.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he's ready for and you need out of

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<v Speaker 6>a swing tackle.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely absolutely, And so yeah, I agree with you on

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<v Speaker 5>both of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are great. Just to keep the names rolling, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to say Damoon Clark. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Dmone entered this offseason unknowing or without knowing what his.

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<v Speaker 1>Future possibly in this franchise would be, and a.

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<v Speaker 5>New staff, new coaching staff that he did like, and

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<v Speaker 5>we've had conversations where.

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<v Speaker 1>He says I feel like I can play free.

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<v Speaker 5>Again in this system. Didn't really fit in Mike Zimmer's system.

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<v Speaker 5>He's put together a great camp. We put a rank

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<v Speaker 5>them on dallascowboys dot com of the top twenty players

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<v Speaker 5>of Dallas Cowboys training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>He was top fifteen. He was number fourteen on the list.

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<v Speaker 5>So to see him have some success, to see him

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<v Speaker 5>play well in the preseason games, and to continue to

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<v Speaker 5>take steps forward after possibly being off of the roster

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<v Speaker 5>and because of the contract situation, it might have been

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<v Speaker 5>easier for this team to let go of de mone

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.679
<v Speaker 5>Clark saved themselves about three million in cash. Instead, he's

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<v Speaker 5>on the roster squarely and he'll be in the rotation

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<v Speaker 5>at linebacker. I think he's taken a big step forward.

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<v Speaker 7>From a guy that was totally lost in Mike Zimmer's scheme.

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<v Speaker 7>For him to come back after that and like still

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<v Speaker 7>gain that confidence and translated onto the practice field, not

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<v Speaker 7>necessarily as much for the preseason games, but I feel

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<v Speaker 7>like that's coming.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's coming for him, and.

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<v Speaker 5>It may not be like a most improved he may

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 5>have always had this, it's just because we've seen flashes

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<v Speaker 5>of de Moone Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>Being great in the past.

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<v Speaker 5>It's piecing it all together in the situation that he

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<v Speaker 5>had in front of him, because other guys that were

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<v Speaker 5>under pressure going into the training camp practices weren't necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>as successful.

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Demone Clark did his job and he came in and

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<v Speaker 1>had a good camp.

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<v Speaker 5>Honorable mention Sam Williams just because one's coming back from

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<v Speaker 5>injury and yesterday the speed that he has he tracked

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 5>down Dak Prescott on a bootleg and just was in

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 5>his hip pocket. That was a sack for It was

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 5>totally a sack. And Sam Williams looks like he's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a dude. I didn't want to give him

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<v Speaker 5>Most Improved, but I think it needs to be mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>how impressive he's been.

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<v Speaker 9>There's some people out there on the Twitter sphere that

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 9>are trying to not include Sam Williams on their final

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<v Speaker 9>fifty three.

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<v Speaker 6>That's crazy.

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 8>Blows my mind, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>They haven't blutched my practice exactly.

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 8>I mean took it out of my mouth, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>Going on to Rookie of the year in training camp,

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<v Speaker 5>who was your standout rookie?

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<v Speaker 9>Then come on, come on, you answer, come easy answer.

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<v Speaker 9>Donovan as Aku for me.

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<v Speaker 1>For listeners of the Draft show, this is not a surprise.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I you know, I'm a big, big fan of

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 9>this kid, and you know, early on at camp I

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 9>felt like, you know, he wanted to throw everything that

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 9>he has in his arsenal out there and show what

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 9>he can do. And so you saw the bend, the athleticism,

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 9>the flash off the edge, and you saw him getting

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 9>into the backfield. You saw him dropping back in coverage

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 9>to taking running backs out of the backfield and running

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 9>with him step for step.

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 8>You saw all of that early in camp.

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 9>And it was funny because we were talking to Matty

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 9>Eberflus and he was talking about his his development, and

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 9>he's like, you.

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 8>Know how, He's like, it's it's when rookies come in.

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 9>It's kind of like potty training a baby, and you

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 9>know you got to go through like step at a time,

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 9>step at a time. It's like when as Araku got here,

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 9>like he had it all figured out. So let's think

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 9>of the back of my head.

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 8>So I was like, so he was. He was pooping

0:26:57.960 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 8>in the.

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 9>Toilet, all right, and so he's like, now we're like

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 9>really trying to work on the things that we know

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 9>he can be better at. And so if you watch

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 9>these first two preseason games and you go back and

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 9>look at as Iraku, I do not think it's a

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 9>fair or not necessarily fair. I don't think it is

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:15.959
<v Speaker 9>going to be an accurate representation of what you are

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 9>going to get in the regular season because there is

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 9>so much power moves that Asraku is trying to get

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 9>better at, and you see him working on that in

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 9>these preseason games, and I've talked to him a little

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 9>bit about it. Of course, he has the speed. He's

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 9>trying to turn the speed to power. And when you

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 9>can add that element to your pass rush arsenal as

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 9>a two hundred and forty five pound pass rusher, that's

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 9>where you can take that step from great to elite.

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 9>And that's what Michael Parsons was able to do so

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 9>well his rookie year. He was able to figure out,

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 9>you know, how to turn that speed to power. And

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 9>now you see Michael Parsons driving through guys like Tristan

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 9>Wurf's and Lane Johnson now in the NFL. And if

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 9>Donovan has Araku can bring that same type of ability

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 9>with power, he's going to be incredible in this league. Again,

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 9>he has the speed bendefolot to be a speed rusher.

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 9>I think he's going to be a guy who has

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 9>six seven sacks this year for this defense. But if

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 9>he can add the power element to his game, Look,

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 9>I feel confident saying this, he will be in the

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 9>defensive Rookie of the Year conversation.

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because what was Micah's sack total?

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<v Speaker 5>Twelve his rookie year, I think, and so if you

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 5>get anywhere close to that, let's just imagine he gets nine,

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 5>he gets right under the ten sacks in the double

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 5>digit sack category. I would be ecstatic about that edition,

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 5>absolutely ecstatic if he got there. And honestly, tackles for

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 5>loss were more of an impressive number that he had

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 5>last year because what he had he had seven or

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 5>twenty tackles for loss with Boston College. He had sixteen

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 5>and a half sacks with Boston College. If you had

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 5>eleven twelve tackles for loss to go along with eight

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 5>nine sacks.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>That's an incredible rookie year. And you can build on

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>top of that.

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 5>Micah parcels on the other side, notwithstanding who knows what

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 5>his numbers will be, that's one of the top sack

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 5>rushing duo in all.

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 9>Of you take back to Sam Williams's rookie year, he

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 9>had four sacks and he finished fifth and defensive Rookie

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 9>of the Year voting, which is crazy to think about,

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 9>that is why.

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 8>And then last year's defensive.

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 9>Rooie the Year, Jerry Versusly had four and a half sacks,

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 9>So I mean, wow, that was more is an impact

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 9>on the run game and his quarterback threshers and things like.

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 3>That, which that would be welcome to I would be

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 3>okay with that too.

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 9>So that's that's what I'm saying, Like, if he can

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 9>get to like six and a half seven sacks, he's

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 9>in the conversation.

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 7>This passworst group is going to be exciting once we're

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 7>full go oh for sure, it's gonna be fun to watch.

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 7>And like, once we're finally like live bullets out there,

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 7>it's gonna be awesome for me. Just to change up

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 7>the conversation a little bit.

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 8>But you agree with me, I agree.

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I have three for three across the board. It would

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>be as a optic, but just.

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<v Speaker 7>To bring in another name as far as Rookie of

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 7>the Year goes a Rookie of Training Camp, I have

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 7>to say Shamar James, because as we've gone along, I wasn't.

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 6>A big draft expert. I didn't necessarily.

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 7>See him in college and watch a ton of college,

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 7>but I just kept seeing fifty out there. I just

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 7>kept seeing fifty flying all over the place. And the

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 7>guy that wasn't quick to necessarily diagnose the play, but

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 7>quick to get to the play. If he didn't see

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 7>it right away, if he didn't diagnose it, he was

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 7>gonna get there no matter what because he has that speed.

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 7>Once he's able to actually diagnose what's going on before

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 7>everybody else, it's gonna be insane. Like this guy's going

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 7>to continue to make plays. And he was making plays

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 7>even whenever he read the wrong play.

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 5>And that happened a lot of Florida. Because for somebody

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 5>that watched the tape, I mean, you can agree with

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 5>this too. Diagnosing was never his thing. The athleticism was

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 5>his thing. And would it translates to the NFL level.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 5>It looks like it's translating just fine.

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 7>It's translating just fine because of his natural gifts at

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 7>just being incredibly fast and getting people down to the ground.

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, granted we haven't seen.

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 7>A whole lot of that in practice obviously, but you're

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 7>seeing in preseason games now and just seeing him fly

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 7>across the board is it's really encouraging and a guy

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 7>that you need. And we've talked about how much of

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 7>a strength so far linebackers have been for this team.

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 7>He's definitely one of them.

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 9>We're going to look back in a couple of years

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 9>and look at this three draft stretch that they've had

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 9>where they've gone to Marven, Overshown, Mayer, Leah f Alshamar James,

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 9>and we're gonna be like, damn, that was a run.

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 5>Hopefully, especially with Demo coming back to he stays healthy,

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 5>that could be a fun core for the future.

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna do a deep blue on that in like

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 7>ten years.

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll be the twenty Yeah. The linebacker, Yeah, the linebacker.

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Back to backers. Uh, that's good, right, that's good.

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 8>Back back to back down.

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Great, All right, let's move on to who's George?

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 5>You have time, I said as Roku, Okay, yeah, let's

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 5>let's move on to defensive player of the year in

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 5>training camp or defensive player of the camp.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I should say. I'll start with you, Josh, you got Kyer.

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>That's a good one.

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 7>I mean, how could you, how can you not be

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 7>impressed but needed him, you needed him desperately, and Granton

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 7>when the trade happened, I wasn't like, yeah, you know

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 7>what I mean, Like you saw the AFC Championship gave me,

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 7>You're like, oh no, yeah. But since camp started, he

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 7>has been the best corner that we've had.

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 8>I would say I would go back to ot as even.

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 7>Since ot I agree, yeah, I wouldn't argue that. Uh,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 7>just he's he's a flash out there. I love seeing

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 7>how he's able to just just past breakups have been insane.

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 7>He did one yesterday against CD, who's a nice comeback

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 7>route that he just has fun eliminated. I love seeing that,

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 7>love the attitude that he brings for me easily.

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 8>It's got your just to switch it up. I would

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 8>go Elam as well, but just to switch it up.

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 9>And this is a guy that you know, I think

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 9>has just had a really strong training camp, maybe has

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 9>flown under the radar a little bit of how good

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 9>of a camp he's had. He's playing confident in the system,

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 9>he's playing well as Millie Cooker, and I like what

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 9>he's put together from a camp perspective because to be

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 9>completely honest, completely transparent.

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 8>Going into this camp, I was like, man, when can

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 8>you get rid of these two safeties?

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, like it's it's you know, you got Wilson on

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 9>the books for one more year, you got Hooker on

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 9>the books for two more years. It just felt like

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 9>you could be so much better at the position group

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 9>if you look back at the defense's last couple of years.

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 9>But they have both proved me wrong, and so Hooker especially,

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 9>I think he's he's looked really good under this eberflu system.

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 5>I agree, And if I had to rank it defensively,

0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 5>it would be Elam Hooker.

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>And then the guy that I'm about to name as

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of my extra Ohsa, Diggy Zooa.

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 8>Really I thought.

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>He's been great. I think he's been great.

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 6>Thanks for the vote of confidence.

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Especially you talk about yesterday blowing up practice. Yesterday, he

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>was really good.

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 5>There are times where he has disappeared a little bit,

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 5>but it's practice.

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 8>It's tough in these environments.

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's the.

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 5>Thing is you're gonna see ups and downs from the

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 5>trenches at different points throughout camp. I thought consistently he

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 5>was the best interior defensive lineman that should be the

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 5>case with the money that he's getting in the type

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 5>of praise that he's gotten throughout his career. But I

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 5>would I would say, I mean outside of that, and

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.959
<v Speaker 5>we've mentioned Marius Leah Fowl and some of these linebackers

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 5>as well that that have played well edge rushers, you

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 5>haven't had really the same splash from guys outside of

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 5>Ezraku maybe Fowler. I think Osa has been good throughout

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 5>training camp and I'm gonna stick with that. Yeah, let's

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 5>take our second break when we come back. I want

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 5>to flip it too. The offensive side of the football.

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:01.640
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<v Speaker 5>As training camp has come to a close, it's time

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<v Speaker 5>to get back into regular season talk pretty soon. Alongside

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<v Speaker 5>Nick Harris, Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam in the back, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>Kyle Yeoman's let's get into offensive Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>We've given our player camp. Yeah, player of Camp.

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, We've done the most improved player, We've done the

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<v Speaker 5>defensive player of Camp, We've done the Rookie of Camp,

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<v Speaker 5>and now offensive player of Camp.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll let you start, Josh, darn it, dude.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is I'm kind of thinking this as what

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<v Speaker 5>the DPOY voting is at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 5>Like usually there's a different offensive player, the different Player

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 5>of the Year as opposed to the MVP.

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 1>You can double it up if you want to, but

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>really it's a yeah, I don't want to scrap it seed.

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 7>Thing because I know you guys are gonna go off

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 7>and I don't want to steal this from anybody. So

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 7>I'll just pick sort of the standard, the gold standard

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 7>of the Cowboys offense currently, and that's Ceedee lamb mm.

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 6>I mean, what are we doing here?

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 8>He did have a great camp, He really did.

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 7>He excellent camp, And seriously, that is that is who

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.359
<v Speaker 7>your offense starts and ends with. It runs through him

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 7>one A and it's solidified. I kind of wish I

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 7>could touch on one B, but I feel like that

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 7>might come up here in the segment. Yeah, there might

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 7>be one there too, But Ceedee Lamb. He's the gold

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 7>standard of your cowboys.

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:45.479
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm going with the guy.

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 9>He had the most receptions of any pass catcher in

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:52.760
<v Speaker 9>training camp and has really added a big time element

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 9>to this, to this offense.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 8>It's not George Picktts, it's Cavante Terrapin.

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a good one.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 8>I'm taking Avante.

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree that Dermi.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 9>He added offensive element that he has provided to this system.

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 9>If it can translate into the regular season, watch out,

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 9>I'm serious, watch out. You talk about what he's been

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 9>able to do from lining up in the slot, lining

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 9>up outside, lining up as as a running back as well,

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 9>and getting carries. It's been it's been really cool to

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 9>see him him kind of finally put it together on

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 9>the offensive side.

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 8>Of the ball.

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 9>And you get why he's got that six million dollar

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 9>price tag. Now, you know you can't just be a

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 9>returner with that kind of with that kind of money,

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 9>so you know they're there. They have added an increased

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 9>effort to get him involved offensively and that really manifested

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:39.399
<v Speaker 9>a training camp.

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I like it. And remember we've talked about it on

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>this show before.

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 5>Josh, the conversations that shot he had even before becoming

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 5>head coach was we need to get Turpin involved.

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>More, and that's why you extended more. That's why you

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>extended him.

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, That's why he's here, and that's why when Schottenheimer

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 5>was hired as head coach, he had a plan in

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 5>place to get Turpin.

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Involved and they did a lot.

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 5>And you mentioned the receptions there, Nick, I think that's

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 5>an interesting point because he was out there constantly and

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 5>they were trying to give him the ball constantly. I

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 5>think I tweeted two or three times while I was

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 5>out there, like they are getting Turp in the football.

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 1>They're getting it to him in space.

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 5>Whether it's in the flat as a screen over the

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 5>middle of the field, didn't matter. They were getting the

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 5>football to nine and he was running with it.

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 7>There are scheming plays for one Comante Turpan, and that

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 7>is apparent. That's why they extended him, and you saw

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 7>that in flashes.

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 6>Last season.

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 7>Obviously had his best season overall last season, which was

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 7>returning the ball right as a kick returner, as a

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 7>punt returner. But you see that, and I don't think

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 7>the offense or just the coaching staff necessarily didn't do

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 7>a great season, a great job last season of involving

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 7>him in the offense. I mean, you saw him run

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 7>a few times. You saw a couple of passes to

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 7>him that ended up in touchdowns. But to me, it

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:02.280
<v Speaker 7>wasn't a conscious effort towards like this is the fastest

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 7>man in the NFL.

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 6>K I of loves that call.

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I love that, Yeah, I do love that call.

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 7>And you're not scheming plays to get this guy the ball.

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 7>He's not the best receiver that we have, but you

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 7>have to get the ball in his hands no matter what.

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 6>And that's what it feels like they're doing.

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I love it. And he's gonna have to try and

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>find what he is.

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 7>That's why they call him that, dude, Why they call

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 7>him that?

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 8>Why they do it? Gosh, you do That's just show,

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 8>you know, that's just them.

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>It's the torpedo guy, stop it beam stop.

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 8>I actually love the Torpedo's It's it's.

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>A great name.

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 5>But Turpey Turpy Speed Speed is a talking Cowboys staple. O.

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>G It's we're the only show that does it.

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.839
<v Speaker 5>And if you say Turpy Turpey speed Speed, then we

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 5>know they're.

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 9>Last year what uh when Nick It went up to

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 9>the Turpey. He's like, he's got a nickname for Turpy

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 9>Turby speed speak. Come on, was like, yeah, he loved it,

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 9>like great, But now every time they want to play by,

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 9>Twitter blows up.

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>That is true.

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 9>I get comments on her my posts whenever Turpin doesn't

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.240
<v Speaker 9>like Turbet turbot speed speed at Josh wr You're darn right.

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 6>Your darn Tuton, dude.

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>It's the best. It's the best.

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna there's a point I'm gonna make on going

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 5>into the MVP conversation. You said cdee Lamb for offensive

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 5>player of camp, you said Cavante Turpin.

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say George Pickens. Yeah, just because again.

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 5>Added element to this offense, contested ball downfield, exactly what

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 5>you've missed and what you've needed in this passing game

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 5>for quite some time. I'm gonna say Pickens.

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 10>There.

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 5>I would rather say Ceedee Lamb in this conversation, but

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 5>just to keep it going.

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 9>Can I add an offensive player that maybe didn't get

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 9>talked about enough as having a.

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 8>Pretty solid camp.

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 7>No, Moving on, Terrence Steele, I thought Terror Steel had

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 7>a good camp, Okay.

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Not an MVP yor offensive player exact camp exactly.

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 9>I just thought he had a good camp, and I

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 9>think it's it's definitely a point of optimism going into

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 9>the year.

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 6>I like, I love to hear it.

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was steady too.

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 5>He had that little hiccup early with the ankle or

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 5>was it an ankle or shoulder ankle? I thought it

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 5>was an ankle, missed a couple of practices right back in.

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 1>It had no problem.

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 5>So I agree with you there going into MVP conversation.

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean, who's your MVP?

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 7>You just said it in a way, Oh yeah, in

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.959
<v Speaker 7>a way. You listed three wide receivers that are having

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 7>excellent camp.

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I did.

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 6>Who's getting them the ball?

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Who's throwing them the football?

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 7>Willy Wonka and Chat is gonna He's gonna blow a gasket,

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 7>But it's uh, it's Dak Prescott.

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 6>What are we doing?

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 6>What are we doing?

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>You ever heard of wins above replacement in baseball?

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 6>Explain this to me.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>War so war.

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.280
<v Speaker 5>Is an analytic used in baseball that it puts together

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 5>the amount of impact that a certain player has at

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 5>their position group and it takes into effect how much

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 5>their production as a team would drop off without that

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 5>player in the lineup. And there have been some great

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 5>players with really high wars throughout their their baseball career.

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.439
<v Speaker 5>The wins above replacement for Dak Prescott and training Camp

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.919
<v Speaker 5>is through the roof. I mean you talk about what

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 5>you've seen from him, you've seen from Joe Milton, and

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 5>not even just Joe Milton, but any other quarterback that's

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 5>even possible to be your backup quarterback behind Dak Prescott.

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.760
<v Speaker 5>It's a significant drop off. So yes, we're talking about

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 5>in I don't think Dallas Cowboys dot Com as a

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.280
<v Speaker 5>staff disagrees because in that top twenty ranking of campers

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 5>for three of the four top players were all wide

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 5>receivers Ceede. Lamb, George Pickens, Cavant de Turpin. That's not

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:25.720
<v Speaker 5>an incorrect statement, but somebody has to throw them the football,

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 5>and it wasn't Joe Milton, it was it was Dak Prescott.

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 5>So I have Dak as my MVP for that reason

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 5>and that reason alone. Was he the best, most electrifying,

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 5>most incredible player of training Camp? Probably not, but we're

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 5>talking most valuable. Dak is that valuable player.

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 8>I'll just go see that's fair, That's okay.

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 6>Wow, Dak hate on Dallas.

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 9>Was no, no, at all. I did think Dak had

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 9>a fine camp. I mean, he only had the two

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 9>interceptions in pads. I thought that was really important towards,

0:43:55.560 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 9>you know, his turnover progression, because those numbers were starting

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 9>to get a little wonky before he got hurt last year.

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, Dak is for sure a service.

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 5>It's pretty impressive in practice to only throw two picks

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 5>and pads. Yeah, I mean, I know they're doing things

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 5>and they're trying to do a lot of passing reps

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.879
<v Speaker 5>without pads on, But in pads, you're trying to fit

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 5>a football into a tight window. You're trying to force

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 5>it a couple different times into windows you wouldn't necessarily

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 5>force it into in a game. So the fact that

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 5>he only had two interceptions in practice, the fact that

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 5>one we're charting that is just crazy that we're at

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 5>the day and age of sports media.

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but I feel like you're responsible for that.

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I know it might be.

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, we're all jerks, but but I do

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.239
<v Speaker 5>think that's that's pretty impressive.

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:45.959
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 5>Cowboys Falcons On Friday, seven o'clock kickoff, six o'clock countdown

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 5>to kick off from AT and T stadium, Nick, what

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 5>are you looking for in the final preseason game.

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:57.839
<v Speaker 8>The Ben Denucci revenge game.

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 5>He's signed to the Falcons this week.

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 7>Just get me to week one, man.

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 9>I am The last preseason game on Saturday completely changed

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 9>my opinion about an eighteen game season, because if it

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 9>means we take away a preseason game, I'm all, I'm all,

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 9>You're down, But no, for real, there's a couple of

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 9>position battles that I think, you know, Friday is going

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 9>to be a big determining factor in you know, you

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 9>think about this RB two situation. I think Javonte Williams

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 9>is pretty much penciled in as a starter. Who's going

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 9>to be behind him? I think that's still up in

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 9>the air. Who's going to be the last tight end

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 9>on the roster? I think that's a I think that's

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 9>a much bigger conversation than people think. I think Jake

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 9>Ferguson and Brevin span Ford are the only safe ones,

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 9>and I think Rivaldo Fairweather has started to factor himself

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 9>into the conversation. He got a lot of run with

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 9>the ones. Yeah, yesterday and the day before whenever Luke

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 9>Schoonmaker came out with injury. So if Schoonmaker is not

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 9>playing on Friday, and Rivaldo Fairweather shows up yet again.

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 8>That could be big time.

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 9>He has the only receiving touchdown from Joe Milton in

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 9>this preseason and he's had a couple of big time receptions.

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 9>Show some value in the block run blocking game as

0:45:57.880 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 9>well on the defensive side of the ball, the slot corners.

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 9>But you know is going to be keym on Hall,

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 9>Zion Childress, Israel mcwhalma, even though mcwamah has gotten some

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 9>a lot of reps at safety. But I'm curious to

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 9>see who comes out of that battle on top. There's

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 9>some fun ones still still to be you know, evaluated.

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 9>Who's that last receiver on the roster. You know, I

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 9>not not to kill the hopes of all the Trey

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 9>shon Holden fans out there, but Trey shon Holden just

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 9>does not bring enough special teams value, I'm afraid. And look,

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 9>if it were from a pure receiving standpoint, Trey shon

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 9>Holden would be on this roster.

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 8>I agree with.

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.240
<v Speaker 1>He's got some of the best hands that I've seen.

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 9>And he's been consistent every day. He's shown up night,

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 9>made a great play last night in the end zone.

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 9>But from a special team's perspective, he's still learning, and

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 9>Jalen Brooks is a top five special teams player on

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 9>this roster. Jalen Brooks is going to be that last

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 9>guy before Treyshawn Holden, and I would say Ryan Flinoy

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:45.240
<v Speaker 9>would be that last.

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 8>Guy before Trey Shawn Holding as well.

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 9>So but I you know, theoretically that last spot is

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 9>still up for grabs, especially now that Mingo is going

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 9>on IR theoretically to start the season. You know that's

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 9>going to open up a spot for at least one guy.

0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 9>But yeah, I'm curious to see what happens with these

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 9>position battles man.

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, I'm particularly running back and how we've sort of

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.439
<v Speaker 7>discussed the three that you're going to have full four

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 7>if you count lipkey. Shouts to Nick Harris for the

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 7>weak love. But yesterday and the day before here at

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 7>first goes training camp after do sort of got over

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 7>that hamstring injury. I love what I've seen from him

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 7>so far. Yesterday he had a really good practice. I

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:25.879
<v Speaker 7>don't know that he makes this team, but I want

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 7>to see. I want it to be a hard decision,

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 7>and I think part of that is him balling out

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 7>tomorrow and just the running back room just getting a

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 7>little more interesting.

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 9>You know what it kind of reminds me of was

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 9>when Will Greer had his like going away party in

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 9>twenty twenty three, and it was like, look, man, you're

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 9>out of here after this, like.

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 8>But here's your shryout after it. So I Spon just

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 8>goes out there and runs for like one hundred and

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:44.959
<v Speaker 8>sixty yards.

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 6>I would love that.

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 8>I would genuinely love that because I would be incredible.

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 8>I love him to write about. Please.

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 7>I want the best for him because I really do

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 7>believe that he will. He will figure some things out

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 7>and contribute in a lot of ways. And I mean,

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 7>just if we had more of a receiving running back situation,

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 7>I think that would be great. But that's just not

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.919
<v Speaker 7>our offense at the moment. And hopefully he shows out

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 7>maybe a practice squad situation, but I really hope he

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 7>has a great game.

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 5>They asked me that question last night on the broadcast,

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 5>where does Deuce Vaughan fit on this roster? I was like,

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if he does, and it's just because

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 5>of the room that they have. You're either going to

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 5>keep two rookies, or you're gonna keep two veterans, and

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 5>that's just kind of what it's gonna be. It's either

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 5>gonna be Sanders and Williams uh and then pick Blue

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 5>or MafA, which I think is a pretty easy case

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 5>in Blue, or you're gonna pick Sander or excuse me,

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna pick Williams, and then you're gonna pick.

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Blue and MafA. To try and grow into those spots.

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 5>I just don't know where running back another running back

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 5>fits into that, especially.

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<v Speaker 7>With his skill set keep lip key and yeah, with.

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<v Speaker 1>His current skill set. He had an incredible practice last night.

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<v Speaker 5>It was always good to hear the fans kind of

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<v Speaker 5>chanting Duce and getting them in there.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the guy you want to root for.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I hope he does go off in the

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<v Speaker 5>in the matchup, and if it's not here, I hope

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<v Speaker 5>he lands somewhere great and has an incredible career.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't look like it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 9>You gonna throw one more question on and say before

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<v Speaker 9>we get one more, we're trying to extend the show,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, real quick, gotta go all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm then you got ten minutes left all right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>it for Talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 5>Chris Beam is kicking us off the air because he

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<v Speaker 5>thinks he has more important things to do.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back on Monday, we will wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason. Hopefully we'll have Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 5>I know Isaiah is doing Good Morning Football next week,

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<v Speaker 5>but he is currently on the couch watching from home.

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<v Speaker 5>All the best wishes Isaiah. Gilbert gets our comment of

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<v Speaker 5>the day. He said, has Isaiah been placed on ir

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<v Speaker 5>or is he on pup? Best wishes for speedy recovery.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just on pup. Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 5>He'll be back very very soon. I n fi yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he'll be back very quickly. For Nick Harris in his

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<v Speaker 5>return to Talking Cowboys. For Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam in

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<v Speaker 5>the back, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 5>Do the chopper again it get back into it. See

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<v Speaker 5>you next week with more Talking Cowboys.

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