1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks insiders. Russell It takes the snap, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: steps up in the pocket, looks has talk. Now he's 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: gonna throw Tyler Locker looks for the ball. He's got 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Steahawks getting you ready for Seahawks football every Sunday. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: To handoff inside the Carson starts up the middle. Now 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: bounce as if the crow flown up. Steahawks powered by 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Seahawks dot Com. We are getting you ready for the 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: Seahawks Giants matchup on Sunday, and we get to welcome 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: John Boyle back to the podcast. Hey John, Hi Jen, 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: good to be back. It's nice to have you back. 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Congratulations to you and your wife. And you've got a 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: new baby girl in the house. We sure do. We 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: got three girls. Now. I'm very outnumbered here in the 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Boile household. But it's we're doing great. Everybody's having fun, 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: not sleeping great, but you know, things are good and 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: isn't completely crazy or is this just which you consider 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: normal now? I think it's just the new normal now. 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean I think when you already have two kids, 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: you have an idea of the craziness, so you have 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: to know adding a third to that mix is going 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: to be more crazy. So we're hanging in. It's good 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: and you're on trend in so many ways, John, because 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: the new normal in twenty twenty has been completely redefined. 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: You've done that in your own house. And I tell 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: you what the new normal when it comes to standings 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: in the NFC East, it is completely wacky this year. 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: And it is hard to imagine that the Seahawks are 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: playing a Giant's team that is four and seven and 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: still at the top of their division. Meanwhile, the Seahawks 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: win on Monday Night in Philadelphia set them up nicely 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: in the standings. What was significant about that win as 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: far as how the standings are playing out? Can I 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: just tell you that was a hell of a segue, Jen, 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean, go from craziness to kids to the NFC 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: st nfcast standings. Wow, that was good. I was so impressed. 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: I lost track of your question. So that when in 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: the standings, right, that's what we're talking about. Yeah, I mean, look, 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: I know that there's you could argue whether a bye 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: week is important, but I do think it is important 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: to stay on top of the standings. And there's a 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: nice stretch of the schedule here to make up some 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: ground too, exactly. I mean the bye. You know you're 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: gonna need help at this point to get the buy 44 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: because New Orleans is out ahead there. But even if 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: you can't get that, winning the divisions a big deal. 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: It sets you up to be at home. It gives 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: you the chance it hosts in the championship game if 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: there's an upset on the other side of the bracket. 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: And we know that this NFC West is loaded, so 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: every time you can gain ground, and the Seahawks got 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: a little help over the weekend with the Rams and 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals both losing. Anytime you can capitalize on that, that's 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: a big deal. And to your point, look, no game 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: is easy in the NFL. We've seen that over and 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: over again. These teams all have talent. But if you 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: do what you should these next few games, you can 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: set yourself up really well for a couple of big 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: NFC West matchups to close it out. You know, you 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: mentioned the Saints and how far ahead they are and 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: the Seahawks would need some help. Look, I gotta be 61 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: honest when you take a look at the common opponents 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: that the Saints have to play still that are in 63 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: line with the Seahawks. You know, they've got the Eagles 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: on the schedule, which I realize when you look at 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: the record, it doesn't look like Philadelphia would have a chance. 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: But John, coming off that Monday night game, look that 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Eagles front four against a Drew Breese less Saints. That's 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: not a gimme for the Saints. A couple of these 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: opponents that they have coming up, I do think without 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Drew Brees there's a chance the Seahawks might sneak in 71 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: there because of the Saints not being able to keep pace. Yeah, 72 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean, for sure, you got to at least be 73 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: hopeful for that. But you know, right now, it's all 74 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: about to take care of your own business and you know, 75 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: let the cards fall where they may. But yeah, it's 76 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, most importantly, they're in first place in their 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: division right now and looking to build on that as 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: they go forward. Well, as much as Seahawks fans are 79 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: looking at this stretch of games and seeing that they 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: don't have an opponent with a winning record and thinking 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: at there's some level of ease to this game, I 82 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: think opponents are looking at the Seahawks and thinking this 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: defense has some level of ease playing against it. But 84 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: I do think that would be a mistake when you 85 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: look at the numbers and when you consider what Pete 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: Carroll said this week, you guys wouldn't have thought. I 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought that it might be possible to be 88 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: a top ten rushing group. You know that we're already 89 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, we're We're up in the top ten 90 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: numbers in terms of sacks and hits on the quarterbacks. 91 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: And we've turned that thing around in a hurry, and 92 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: so you know, we had We definitely can feel the 93 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: momentum of the shift happening in This's what we've been 94 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: waiting for. We all had to be patient because we 95 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: all want to see it going. But now it's time 96 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: to keep proving it, you know. And because we did 97 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: something last week doesn't mean anything, you know, unless we 98 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: do it again. So these guys are determined to, like 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: you say, and make that turned in a real positive 100 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: way to add to this football team to the season. 101 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: I like the way Pete acknowledged that of you know, 102 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: no one really saw this coming, and he was being honest. 103 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: They probably didn't either. It wasn't that they didn't expect 104 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: the defense to get better. But to go from having 105 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: nine sacks in your first six games, you had that game, 106 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: that loss in Arizona where on forty eight pass attempts 107 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 1: you didn't even hit Kyler Murray, to just how dramatically 108 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: they've flipped the script there. I think it's what twenty 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: two sacks in the last five games you've got. You know, 110 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: obviously Carlos Dunlap has been a big part of that, 111 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: not just what he's done, but he helps everybody. I 112 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: think we've seen you know, Punaford looks better, Jared Reid 113 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: looks better, just across the board, that pass rush looks 114 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: better when you add that elite defensive end talent to it. 115 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams coming back has played a big role as well. 116 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: And you know, on the back end, that group starting 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: to form some cohesion. So, look, this isn't the best 118 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: defense in the NFL all of a sudden overnight. They're 119 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: not shutting teams out, but they're trend in the right 120 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: direction for sure, and I think we're going to see 121 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: them continue to get better. We talked about the talent 122 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: and training camp. Now we're seeing it start to play 123 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: like it, and that's to me, the difference of the 124 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Seahawks team being a really good team to being a 125 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: championship caliber team, as if you have that defense coming 126 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: the way it is well, and they allowed the fewest 127 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: points all season long against Philadelphia two hundred and fifty 128 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: total yards, which on there was a point in time 129 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: in the first quarter where the Eagles were at minus 130 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: yardage and if you would have taken away that hail 131 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Mary pass, it would have been two hundred and seventeen yards. 132 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: So to me, when you take a look at that 133 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: and what they did against Arizona and that running defense 134 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: that Pete mentioned, I would say to other teams and 135 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: to fans around the league, go ahead and sleep on 136 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: that defense and see what happens to Yeah, exactly, And 137 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: that's you know, the run defense has been good all year, 138 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: but until three or four weeks ago, teams didn't feel 139 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 1: like they had to run the ball because the past 140 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: defense was struggling so much. But you get that pass 141 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: rush doing let's doing it, and you can't be as 142 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: one dimensional against this team. Well, here is somebody that 143 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: nobody is sleeping on in the NFL, and that would 144 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: be DK Metcalf. We know that he had one hundred 145 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: and seventy seven yards on Monday Night Football. He has 146 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: gone over ninety yards in eight games this year. And 147 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: I actually I have a big question around this John, 148 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: and it has nothing to do with his talent. I 149 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: totally get it. I have not seen the Mandalorian. I 150 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: have zero idea what the comparison was. I was kind 151 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: of hoping that you had, Like, I get it, it's 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: some sort of superhero thing. So does that mean that 153 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: we need to put that on our viewing list before Sunday? 154 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: We're Yeah, we're doing a bad job if neither of 155 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: us even know what Pete's talking about. I mean, I 156 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: know of the show and it's Star Wars related, but yeah, 157 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know the comparison that well. I 158 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: hope you'll just saying it because it's you know, starts 159 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: with an M. I hope you had a more reason 160 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: behind it than just that, But I don't know. I 161 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: think that Pete Carroll has more than that. But what 162 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: does it say that Pete Carroll has time to watch 163 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: this and has watched this and we have not. Clearly 164 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: we're behind on pop culture, or are scheduling or something. 165 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: We just had a baby in my house what's your excuse? Great? 166 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: Thanks John, Thanks John, I'm currently watching other things, but 167 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: I guess we'll move them Bandalorian up on the list. Fine, okay, 168 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: well DK made that offense go. But look, there was 169 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: points in time in that first quarter in particular, that 170 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 1: the offense looked disjointed. So the Seahawks have the opening drive, 171 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: they failed to convert on fourth down, so they get 172 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: no points out of it. Here's what confused me about 173 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: the first quarter and the first half. On the opening drive, 174 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: they marched down, there was a nice mix of run 175 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: in past, Chris Carson got involved, Carlos I got involved, 176 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: and then after that it just felt like it didn't 177 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: fit together very well. Was I imagining that? What was 178 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: going on there? Do you think? Yeah? It wasn't as 179 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: crisp as we've seen this offense look, And I think 180 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: a lot of that credit goes to the Eagles. That's 181 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: a really good front. This defense for whatever reason, has 182 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: been pretty solid against see I mean, you go back 183 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: the two wins last year and the Seahawks or kind 184 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: of control both those games because of their defense, but 185 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: they only scored seventeen points both times. Needed that big 186 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: flea flicker in the regular season game and then some 187 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: big plays the DK Metcalf in the playoffs, so it 188 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: kind of continued that scriptive. I think he just got 189 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: to give some credit to that defense and that front 190 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: in particular being disruptive. I will say Chris Carson was 191 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: pretty limited in this game. I think they're trying to 192 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: kind of ease him in, and we saw no knock 193 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: on Carlos Hide. He's a good player, but it just 194 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: looks different with Chris Carson in there. And if they 195 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: start getting him more involved in the next couple of weeks, 196 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: I think that will make a big difference for this offense. 197 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll did say that Chris Carson was pretty sore 198 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: after that game on Monday night, so yeah, I do 199 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: think he was on a little bit of a pitch 200 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: count as he gets worked into a full workload for 201 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. While we can give credit 202 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: to a lot of different individuals on the Seahawks, Pete 203 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: Carroll also wants to make sure that there is some 204 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: credit going to the special teams. John, this is this 205 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: is as consistent as we've been. The kicking has just 206 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: been phenomenal. You know, Mike's averaging forty nine something, you know, 207 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: and forty four something nets Uh, he's only had four 208 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: touchbacks and during the season he's having a great year 209 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: and the placement has been exquisite. But I love the 210 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: consistency of our coverage groups. They've just been making plays 211 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: weekend a week out. It's a really really good group 212 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: and it's a championship part of a club that we 213 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: need to come together and match their consistency and then 214 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: we'll be doing pretty good on offense and defense. So 215 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: it's a really really positive part of our team. Yeah, 216 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: the special team's talk started because of Jason Meyers, who's 217 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: having a great year. He hasn't missed a kick since 218 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: sometime last season. He's at twenty six in a row. 219 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: But but if Pete Carroll is talking about there, it's 220 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: it's across the board. It's you know, obviously we know 221 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: how good Michael Dixon is, but it's what's really impressed 222 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: me is just the coverage. Just everything's been clean. They 223 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: didn't have a penalty till weeks seven. They have three 224 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: total enforced against them in eleven games. And you know, 225 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: when I talk, when I look at the coverage, I 226 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: know that they're doing a good job because when you 227 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: see a guy feel the ball at the one or 228 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: two yard line, or even a couple of yards, zeep 229 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: and bring it out, you kind of get happy. You're like, yeah, 230 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: do it because you know the way they're covering kicks 231 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: with all those guys. It's become a big part of 232 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: their success this year. I went and found it. They're 233 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: getting five yards five point one yards a field position 234 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: per drive better than their opponents. And you know that 235 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a lot, but that adds up over 236 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: the course of the season when you're constantly starting drives 237 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: just a little bit better than your opponent. And it's 238 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: it's been as Pete Carroll said, it's probably their most 239 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: consistent element and it's a big part of their success. 240 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: And as a result, Nick Bualore is getting national attention. 241 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: Tell me if you had that on your bingo card 242 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: before the season started, I mean, if if you're gonna 243 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: have a special team or in the Pro Bowl, you 244 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: could you could do a lot worse than him. He's 245 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: got twelve tackles leading the team, currently sporting a glorious austache, 246 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: as he tweeted out with some great photoshop skills putting 247 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: himself in a photo with the other specialists. But yeah, 248 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: it's you wouldn't have thought it coming in the Nick 249 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: Bolo or be be trending on Twitter. But maybe we're 250 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: running that way. Well, you also wouldn't have thought. As 251 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: we switch over to this week's matchup against the Giants, 252 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: like we mentioned that four and seven would be enough 253 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: to lead a division, But I would caution folks against 254 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: just looking at that record and thinking that this is 255 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: a give me game. And John, we already touched on this. 256 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: There's talent on the Giants' roster. Now, they might have 257 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: an injury a quarterback this week, but they can run 258 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: the ball and they have one of the best cornerbacks 259 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: in the league. So how do you just evaluate the 260 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: Giants overall? I mean you just said it. You can't 261 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: overlook anybody on paper. The Seats are the better team. 262 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: They should especially at home. You should win that game, 263 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: but there are ways they can hurt you. They've got 264 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: a good run defense, so they're gonna make it hard 265 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: on you there. They've got to running the ball. They've 266 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: got talent back into their secondary, So again, you don't 267 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: want to sleep on anybody. They're a team that even 268 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: though their records, not great is playing for everything right now, 269 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: they're playing for a home playoff game, and teams get 270 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: motivated by that no matter what their record is. So yeah, 271 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: it's I think you're going to be challenged no matter 272 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: who you're playing in this league. I think Pete Carroll 273 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: agrees with you because this is what he has seen 274 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: from the Giants. They're really solid. They're really physical upfront. 275 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: They play the run really well, very disciplined. Blake Martinez 276 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: is a terrific leader for him, you know, he really 277 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: directs the show, it seems, and over one hundred tackles, 278 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: he's everywhere. He's all over the place. They're real big 279 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: and solid upfront, which where it all begins. They're a 280 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: good group. And this you can see why these guys 281 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: are winning. Now. There's the formulas there. They running the football, 282 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: they're playing good defense, they're tough on special teams, all 283 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: of that good kicker. You know, they've they've got all 284 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: the elements, and I can see why why they're getting hot. 285 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: We got our hands full with these guys. Kira Radio 286 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: and seven ten ESPN Seattle your home for the Seattle Seahawks, 287 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: and don't miss Pete Carroll on seven ten ESPN Seattle 288 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: at nine thirty when he joins Danny and Gallant the 289 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: morning after every game. Right there, Pete Carroll hit on 290 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: one of the keys of the Giant success and that 291 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: is their ability to run the ball. They have gone 292 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: over a hundred yards in each of their last six games. 293 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: But John, this is going up against a Seahawks defense 294 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: that is, as we've pointed out, one of the best 295 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: in the league. It's stopping the run. Yeah, I mean, 296 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: that's Pete Carroll has talked forever about. For him, defense 297 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: starts with don't give up big plays and stop the run. 298 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: And they've, you know, for a while this season they 299 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: were only doing half of that and now they're getting 300 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: better at the whole equation. But yeah, I mean, I 301 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: think it plays to the Seahawks strengths if you have 302 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: a team coming in hoping to eslavash the run, hoping 303 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: to kind of take the burden off their quarterback, especially 304 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: if Jones can't go. So yeah, I think it's you know, 305 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: it's a good running attack. But I like the Seahawks 306 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: chance as a sloane anybody down. If Daniel Jones is 307 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: not able to play, the Giants will turn to Colt McCoy, 308 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: who was eleven year veteran, and it might seem like 309 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: it would be difficult to prepare for two quarterbacks, but 310 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: it kind of just is what it is. When you 311 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: listen to Pete. The media asked that question a lot, 312 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, and so rarely are the quarterbacks drastically different 313 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: from one another, you know, and so uh like, we 314 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: had the same discussion last week, you know, playing Philadelphia, 315 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: and the offenses can really only do what they do 316 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: pretty much. You know. Now we're what we're witnessing a 317 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: really good example in New Orleans. You know, what's going 318 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: on with their guys, and they're doing a marvelous job 319 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: of it. But for the most part, if the quarterbacks 320 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: kind of fit the same kind of makeup. Even though 321 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, Colt isn't six five, you know or whatever, 322 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's still a guy that kind of 323 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: plays within the system. He's a good accurate thrower, he 324 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: can move around and run a little bit. So we 325 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: expect to see basically this same stuff, and then from 326 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: there we have to be ready to adapt. I think 327 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: one of the things that Giants have had to adapt 328 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: to John is the offensive line and the fact that 329 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: they have a rookie at left tackle who gave up 330 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: an awful lot of pressures for the first seven weeks 331 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: of the season. He's gotten a lot better in the 332 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: last four. And the Giants are coming off a game 333 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: in which the quarterback was only pressured a handful of times. 334 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: But I think when you start talking about who's at quarterback, 335 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: you also have to talk about how does that offensive 336 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: line respond and when the defensive front is playing as 337 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: well as they are. For the Seahawks, I like that 338 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: matchup and I like their chances exactly. I mean we 339 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier, but when all of a sudden, 340 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: you have a pass rush like this where look, you're 341 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: not going to get six sacks every week like last week, 342 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: but if you can get that constant pressure and maybe 343 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: get three or four sacks, that makes life a really 344 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: hard on the backup quarterback who's coming in without much 345 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: experience trying to get the job done. So I think 346 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: if we see the Seahawks defense just kind of continue 347 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: what they've been doing for the last really two and 348 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: a half games, going to the second half of the 349 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: Rams loss, I think the Staffs defense could be in 350 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: good Jay Well and I want to give a couple 351 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: of shout outs on the Seahawks defense. You know, Ken 352 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: Norton has done a tremendous job in making sure that 353 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: the communication is there, that the turnaround has happened, as 354 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: we heard Pete Carroll say, and Trey Flowers has really 355 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: come along in the last couple of weeks. And I 356 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: think that that has flown under the radar, and I 357 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: think he took a lot of heat from people and 358 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: now he is getting the praise that he deserves. Trey 359 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: has been doing well. He's been he's been way more 360 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: consistent than he was earlier in the year, and his 361 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: confidence is really in a good place. So he's you know, 362 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: as you hope you see you guys get better during 363 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: the season. We're gonna see how he is. He's got 364 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: a hamstring and bothering little bit coming out of the game. 365 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: We'll see how he looks today. As Pete just said, 366 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to monitor hamstring, which you hope is 367 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: okay because to your point, he's really come along. He's 368 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: a guy that fans are a little hard on really 369 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, but earlier this year 370 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: when he was not playing poorly but not playing as 371 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: well as he is now. But he's been really good. 372 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: You look at a lot of those advanced metrics, the 373 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus types, analytics, and he's grading out very favorably. 374 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Is not just playing well, but you know, playing in 375 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: the upper echelon the cornerbacks. So if you can get 376 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: that out of him on the other side of Shaquille Griffin, 377 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: that helps your defense tremendously well. And Quentin Dunbar is 378 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: close to returning, so that will be another option in 379 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: the mix. And the Seahawks have brought DJ read along 380 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: so that's another option if Trey Flowers can't go this week, 381 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: as Dunbar is not available to join the team for 382 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: another week. We are almost done for this week, but John, 383 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: we need to get the two things that have to 384 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: happen on Sunday for the Seahawks to come away with 385 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: a win and improve to six and zero at loom 386 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: And Field. What do you got for me, Well, first off, 387 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: I want to see this pass rush continue. I you know, 388 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: it's been such a huge part of their defensive turnarounds. 389 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: So give me three more sacks. I'll take more if 390 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: you want to. If you want to do it, but 391 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: I think three is a good number. Secondly, just take 392 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: care of the football. The Seahawks in the three games 393 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: they've lost this year, they turned it over ten times. 394 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: In games they've turned it over one or zero times, 395 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: they're eight now. So just be smart with the football, 396 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: don't make mistakes. As we've talked about, you and the 397 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks appear to be the better team, the more talented team. 398 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: Don't make it easy on your opponent, and just be smart. 399 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go completely obvious on this one. For mine. 400 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Seahawks over one hundred yards rushing. I'd 401 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: like to see Chris Carson get a few more touches 402 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: and get worked into that. And i'm gonna say Seahawks 403 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: defense holding the Giants to less than one hundred yards rushing. 404 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: All about their end game, Gen, I'm all about the 405 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: run game this week, John, and I think that if 406 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: the Seahawks followed the plan that we just laid out, 407 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: they will in fact come away with a win and 408 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: extend their lead and the NFC West standings. But of 409 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: course we won't know that until we join you next 410 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: time on a new edition of the Seahawks Insiders podcast.