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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama. Girl Drama, Girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them.

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Speaker 3: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride, and

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Speaker 3: our comic girl sharing for the right teams. Drama Queens,

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Speaker 3: Girl of Girl Fashion, but your tough girl, you could

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Speaker 3: sit with us.

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Speaker 4: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queise Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens

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Speaker 4: Drama Queens.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Tree Hill fans, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 2: You have me and Robert Buckley today and a very

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Speaker 2: special guest. How you doing, rob.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing well. It's good to see you.

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Speaker 2: You too.

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Speaker 5: You have you look kind of like you just stepped

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Speaker 5: off the set of Grease. Right now you're out describe

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Speaker 5: it to the people, because I'm a guy and I

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Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to describe it.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: I've got a light pink satin headband and a light

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Speaker 2: pink and orange satin shirt. This is uh. This is

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Speaker 2: one of the wonderful things about knowing how to get

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Speaker 2: ready really fast is you find you have glamorous things

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Speaker 2: in your closet. And about ten minutes ago, I was

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Speaker 2: laying in my bed with greasy hair and overnight T

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Speaker 2: shirt because I've been working from my bed all morning.

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Speaker 2: I just got up a flight yesterdam exhausted.

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Speaker 1: I just put on the same black T shirt every day,

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Speaker 1: the same black T shirt. That's it. I will say, though,

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Speaker 1: that you guys were pretty cruel having me on right

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Speaker 1: after the Golden Bachelorette premiere. It did a lot of

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Speaker 1: crying last night.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, well, actually, our audience doesn't even know who

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Speaker 2: you are yet. We have to tell ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: the voice that you're hearing is Michael Grubbs aka Wakey

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Speaker 2: Wakey aka Grubs, the bartender in One Tree Hill. Akay,

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Speaker 2: got your ghost.

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Speaker 1: Hi, it's me, It's me. It's so cool to be here.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, of course, buddy, thanks for being here. Listen,

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Speaker 5: y'all gott to hop on the YouTube to check out

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Speaker 5: a Joy's cool retrofit and be just the monster glow

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Speaker 5: up that Grubs has had. I mean, he was a

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Speaker 5: handsome guy before, but you got to see what he

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Speaker 5: has going on now. He looks like a man who

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Speaker 5: figured it out right.

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Speaker 1: I would say, Robert Buckley, someone who is literally I mean,

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Speaker 1: so many memes made of just your gorgeousness, and for

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Speaker 1: you to say that to me, just based on how

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Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's big, it's big words.

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Speaker 2: So I am, why does your skin still look exactly

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Speaker 2: the same like baby skin? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, honestly what it is. It's a setting

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Speaker 1: on Zoom that you can put on called make me

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Speaker 1: not look like crap, and it's it's it's an add on.

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Speaker 1: I got it's pretty expensive, but uh no, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I think honestly. My beard turns so white

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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm allergic to die, so I can't dye

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a natural guy, and I kind of

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that's it. It's it's because of

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Speaker 1: and it makes me look better skinned.

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Speaker 2: Do you still have the softest beard in the world.

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Speaker 1: No, the softest beer in the world now belongs to

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Speaker 1: my dog bus He's yeah, sitting here say he's way

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Speaker 1: softer than I am. But that is very sweet of

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Rob, I was gonna say, Grubbs is using

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Speaker 5: the filter that's called doesn't have kids.

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Speaker 1: It is it is hound dogs instead of kids. It's

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Speaker 1: the best way to stay young.

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Speaker 5: Oh, sleep, it'll keep you youthful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been doing it lately. It's great.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for being here today, buddy. I've been excited

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Speaker 5: for you to be on. I kind of started on

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Speaker 5: I remember some stuff, you know, but there's have been

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Speaker 5: a lot of surprises, and you were such a fantastic

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have so many questions for you, but actually,

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Speaker 2: would you do us the honors of reading the synopsis?

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Speaker 1: Here we go synopsis by Grubbs. Episode seven hundred and twelve,

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Speaker 1: or seven one two as the kids call it. Season seven,

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Speaker 1: episode twelve, Some Roads Lead Nowhere. The air date was

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Speaker 1: December seventh, two thousand and nine. As Nathan and Haley

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Speaker 1: prepare for the Famili's move to Barcelona, Brooks struggles to

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Speaker 1: accept Julian's reaction to Alex's crisis. Quinn helps Clay hatch

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Speaker 5: Y nice, no notes?

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Speaker 2: All right, so new kid in high school? How did

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Speaker 1: I mean, my story is crazy. I might as well

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Speaker 1: at this plays Schiller's liquor bar that was like kind

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Speaker 2: No way, no, wait, hold on a second.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you actually you were grubs in real life before

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Speaker 5: you were grubs on One Tree Hill.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you guys don't know the story. This

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Speaker 1: This is real, Swear to god, it's a completely true story.

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Speaker 1: And we talked, yeah totally, and so I just made

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Speaker 1: That's the power of this show for music. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Wow, like you were ready to give up, you were done?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was out. I was done. And it's fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at some point, I know we have to

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Speaker 5: But the we'll get there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, So anyway, fast forward, that placement happens.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. People start to know who my band is.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing everybody's drinks. And then I finished my first record.

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Speaker 1: just terrified of having to like put on that outfit

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00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 1: and go out there and do that stuff. Like this

435
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: show really has a way of taking women and making

436
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: them put on outfits they don't they're not comfortable, like

437
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 1: forcing that. I remember it happened in India in the

438
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: craziest way. Oh yeah, and so she I remember her

439
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: feeling very stressed about that, but then the way that

440
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 1: she did the dance everything, because it wasn't just like

441
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: a close set. There was a whole crowd of cheerleaders

442
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 1: standing there watching. The bleachers were full, like I remember

443
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 1: there being a ton of people there and and just

444
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: her being so stressed, and she was I mean, she

445
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: pulled it off. She was so funny and great. I

446
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: think we had extra drinks that night.

447
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 2: I believe it now. She did. She committed wholeheartedly and

448
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: that's why it worked. And the build up to that

449
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: of her when you were parked with the car on

450
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: the phone call and she's trying to feed the cow

451
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 2: behind you, and there was all the.

452
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: Incredible, incredible.

453
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 5: I did have a moment again. There was some real

454
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 5: head scratchers in this one for me, and one of

455
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 5: them came early, pretty early on, when I don't know

456
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 5: if it's early on, but Clay, whose house is literally

457
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 5: on the beach, gets fully dressed for a day of work.

458
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 5: I'm talking dress, shoes, sport coat, slacks, and walks straight

459
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 5: from his house where he has swimming trunks and other

460
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 5: outfit choices, and he walked straight into the ocean, leaving

461
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 5: his coat on the beach. I'm just thinking, why put

462
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 5: those clothes on, Bud. Your house is right, You didn't

463
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 5: have to commute here from the office.

464
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 6: It was a.

465
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: Spontaneous thought, that's it. He wasn't planning on it.

466
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, his own rules.

467
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 5: But there's stuff. The clack Quinn stuff I thought was nice.

468
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 5: I like the way it ended, you know, that was

469
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 5: very sweet.

470
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: I was actually confused about that, and maybe I missed something.

471
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: But when she says no, and then has this big

472
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: kind of dramatic pause and then says, I'll come out

473
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: to you.

474
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: You know.

475
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: You're like, I'll come in, and she says, no, I'll

476
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: come out, as though she's been holding back and now

477
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: she's somehow coming towards you.

478
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 5: I didn't understand, yeah, because in a previous episode we

479
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 5: talked about what we were afraid of and she said

480
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 5: it's the ocean, and Clay goes why she says, because

481
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 5: of the immensity. That's why earlier in the car I

482
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 5: make a comment about I was thinking about the ocean

483
00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 5: and the immensity.

484
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 2: And all that I missed it, thank you.

485
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 5: The part that confused me about that was I don't

486
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 5: think Clay knew she was coming. So it's like, again, bro,

487
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 5: why are you fully dressed in the ocean? Again? What

488
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 5: is happening in your house is literally right there and

489
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 5: you are shoes, saws, the whole nine.

490
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: Don't think too hard about it, Robert, you know what

491
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: I mean. It's yeah, you guys look great. I remember also,

492
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: wasn't it like freezing cold that day? Yes? I remember

493
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: that being a discussion. That was like when you guys

494
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: were going into the water to tape you were like,

495
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: it's it's like the waters like thirty degrees or something

496
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: like that was.

497
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 5: Like bar Dick, it was chilly the day Paul drowned

498
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 5: me as well. It was cold there a lot. But yeah,

499
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 5: speaking of having to sort of not like do any

500
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 5: investigating or look too closely at it, I have issues

501
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 5: with uh okay. So Alex obviously tries to unlive herself

502
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 5: in the bathtub. She goes to the hospital when apparently

503
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 5: Milly finds out. I'm assuming she got a call somehow.

504
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 5: I was very curious as to why. Rather than go

505
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 5: to the hospital, she chooses to go to the hotel room,

506
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 5: which apparently the door is still wide open, and sit

507
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 5: in the blood and cry. And then as I'm sitting there,

508
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 5: going what the hell, mouth walks in, who is very

509
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 5: rational at this point, unlike Milly, and I'm thinking, good,

510
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 5: pick your girl up, get her out of the blood,

511
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 5: and you know, go have a talk. No, no, he

512
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 5: sits down in the bigger puddle of blood next to her.

513
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 5: In what world would you not be either going to

514
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 5: check on your friend cleaning up the blood, but instead

515
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 5: you're like, I'm gonna I'm gonna take these dnim pants

516
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 5: and pop them down in that blood.

517
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: What I feel like, You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, get

518
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: out of the blood, Milly, Milly, come on instead, you're like, yeah,

519
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: we're doing this.

520
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: This is the wrong place to be.

521
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

522
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: No, I totally agree. I thought it was really strange

523
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: as well. Did she get a phone call? I missed

524
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: the phone call? She got one.

525
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 5: The reason why, here's the only way that makes sense

526
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 5: to me, is because if she didn't get a phone call,

527
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 5: that means she showed up to Alex's room. The door

528
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 5: was open, no one was in there, there was blood everywhere,

529
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 5: and she decided to cry and sit in the act

530
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 5: of crime scene.

531
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is worth us?

532
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 5: Which is worse? So I just told myself, Okay, she

533
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 5: had to get a phone call. The other confusing thing

534
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 5: is so Julian's in the hospital with her, and I think, obviously,

535
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 5: and he saves her life whatever I'm thinking. Okay, he

536
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 5: checked his phone and got her voicemail at the end

537
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 5: of last episode. Okay, I guess that makes sense. He

538
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 5: kicked down her door. He asked the hotel phone room,

539
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 5: a room key. Whatever. No, they make a point of

540
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 5: saying I was coming by, he says, I was coming

541
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 5: by your apartment to tell you we got financing. And

542
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 5: then so I'm thinking to myself, Dude, if you just

543
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 5: casually popped by her hotel room and not and no

544
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: one answered, in.

545
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: What world you went in?

546
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 5: Would you a do you have a room key? If so, bro,

547
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 5: your boundaries are horrible And if you don't, why would

548
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 5: you think like, I should probably get the hotel to

549
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 5: let me in. You know what I mean?

550
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: No, it's full of holes. There's so many problems. This

551
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: was one of my biggest issues working on the show

552
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: that I felt like I was constantly trying to help

553
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: solve these problems. I thought I was helping, and I

554
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: was really just exhausting everyone because nobody wanted to think

555
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: about that hard but it is. It drives me crazy

556
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: because when you watch it, you're like, this doesn't make sense,

557
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: and it could like it's not that hard to make

558
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: a few adjustments to make something make sense. And then

559
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: you're not asking the audience to suspend reality further than

560
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: they've already decided to by sitting down and turning on

561
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: a television. Do you know what I mean?

562
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 5: Yes? I also felt like on the heels of last

563
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 5: week's episode when we were talking about directing, and you

564
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 5: asked me if I ever wanted to direct, and I said, yeah,

565
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 5: but it's intimidating. Not gonna lie. Halfway through this episode,

566
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 5: I found myself going, I think I could do this.

567
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 5: If this is it, I can do it.

568
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely. Another questionable choice in this episode. You,

569
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Michael, you sit down, Michael. What do you

570
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: prefer people to call you Grubs or Mike? Where do

571
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: you go by?

572
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: I go with all of it. I do Mike or

573
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: I do Michael. And honestly, either way, I'm gonna judge you.

574
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: If you call me Mike, I'll be like, okay, have

575
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: you call me Michael. I'll be like, all right, that's

576
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: a little you know what I mean. There's no right choice.

577
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: No, but you sit down at the piano. You sit

578
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: down at the piano, and I'm like, oh god, this

579
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: is great. They're going to do the big reveal, and

580
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, this great shot that's set up

581
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: for you to surprise us goes into an overhead crane

582
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: shot and there's like six different setups of you playing

583
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 2: the piano that is so distracting. It looks like it's

584
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: not actually you play, saying because they keep cutting away

585
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: from your face and your hands. I was I was

586
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: frustrated watching that. It really was like as an audience member,

587
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: it was one of those moments I thought, you can

588
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: trust me. I'm here with the story, Like you really

589
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: don't have to do all this stuff. Just leave the

590
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: camera there and I would like to enjoy this moment.

591
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: Please stop doing things.

592
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: It felt like it was like almost like to for

593
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: the time. So two things. One, in their defense, the

594
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 1: opening to that song is not to a click, so

595
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: it is not actually it's like you know, typically I

596
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: guess for people at home, the arm familiarly. Typically when

597
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: you record music, there's a click track on so you

598
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: can recreate the performance over and over. So that was

599
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: just a live single take of me doing that. So

600
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: it's really hard to match that. So maybe they were

601
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: trying to match it with my fingers and I was

602
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: doing a poor job. In their defense. One two, I

603
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: think they go into this this is what a show

604
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: does when music is played mindset, where it's like we're

605
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: bouncing around, we've got moving things, we've got whatever he's

606
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: got to shake. I remember like playing it and being

607
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: like can you move more? And I was like not

608
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: in play the piano successfully, and it's like the cuts

609
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: of it, it's just like I'm shaking my head when

610
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm like not doing anything and I'm like doing And

611
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: I remember, like when I hit the first note, they

612
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: were like, make it dramatic, you know what I mean.

613
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, but like when you actually play

614
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: a piano, you don't just like smack it, you know

615
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I like did the first like thing.

616
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: I hit it and I felt like I like, I

617
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: was like, did I just break my finger? My finger?

618
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, uh, just keep going power through.

619
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: I was fine, but I hit it so hard I

620
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: almost hurt myself. Yeah, But I mean they're like, wait, you.

621
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: Could just if you could just like kiss your hand

622
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: before you slap the keys and blow on it like

623
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 5: it's on fire.

624
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly perfect.

625
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 5: But joy, You're right. There were again, there was so

626
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 5: there were some shots where I felt the same way

627
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: where it was like, oh my gosh, just trust the audience.

628
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 5: There was a moment in Clay's kitchen where she goes

629
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 5: where Quinn says, hey, I talk to your old assistant.

630
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 5: I don't even know why. But then she goes you know.

631
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 5: The piece of news I got was so and So's

632
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 5: mom is sick. And it pans to like like a

633
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 5: cowboy shot, meaning like down to like a little like

634
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 5: between my knees and my waist of Clay and it

635
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 5: zooms into my face for an aha moment. Oh god,

636
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 5: And I couldn't. I couldn't.

637
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: It's commercial directing tied.

638
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, oh, Clay just had a thought. It was

639
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 5: like did you did you need to what? It just

640
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 5: it took me out of the moment, like what are we?

641
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 5: What are we doing?

642
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 6: Yeah?

643
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: I really really loved the stuff with Dan.

644
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that was so good.

645
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: Such a winning storyline for me in this episode.

646
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: He's a master of stillness.

647
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: I have that too. Paul is where is it? I did?

648
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: Paul is so good at stillness. I wrote it down.

649
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: He is. He was just so dropped in and centered

650
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: and didn't have to do anything, did everything with his eyes.

651
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: Oh so underrated. I love him.

652
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: He always scared me so much.

653
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: In real life or on the show.

654
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 1: In real life and scared me so much. There were

655
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: certain actors on the show I was scared. I think

656
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: it was just because they were so good, Like, you

657
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean they were so like I feel like, yeah,

658
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: he was definitely one of those Antoine also skills, like

659
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: I felt, I was like, he's so he just lives

660
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: this character so much. I remember having a scene with

661
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: him and being terrified to do.

662
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: It because have you ever done any acting before?

663
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean, so I got a degree in musical theater

664
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, and I was gonna I was on

665
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: like the Broadway route for a long time. I actually

666
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: like did touring musical theater for a minute. Yeah. I

667
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that was my thing. So I was

668
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: going to be the singing actor. And I hated it though.

669
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: I was very It just was doing the same thing

670
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: every single night. But you guys know, acting on a

671
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: stage and acting on a set are such completely different

672
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: skill sets. And I yeah, I didn't know. I didn't

673
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: know what a mark was like the first time. Like

674
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: the mark is a little expert you have to stand on.

675
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: And they were like, you should stand on that. And

676
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll work on it, and they were like, no,

677
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: you really should. You should stand right on that. I

678
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, cool, And yeah, I mean there's

679
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: a there's a real technicality to screen acting that I

680
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: think i'd never ever gotten. Luckily, you guys were such

681
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: saints with me about explaining what everything was, and you

682
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: were all so patient with me and wonderful me. I remember,

683
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: it's so India, my you know, who played Miranda on

684
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: the show, my love interest, like her her now husband

685
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: would actually like fly in and they would give me

686
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: like acting lessons and we would do like scene work

687
00:32:59,400 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: and stuff.

688
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: Did.

689
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, we tried so hard to make me not a

690
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: bad actor for this show.

691
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: Great. That's what was so fascinating that. I mean now

692
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: knowing that you had musical theater training that is informative,

693
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: but you were so natural, you were so comfortable. It

694
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: seemed like you were completely unaware of the camera, unaware

695
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: of yourself, and you were just there in the moment

696
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: with the other people in the scene. That's actually it

697
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: seems to be very hard to do for a lot

698
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: of people. You were great.

699
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: I wish i'd know they literally wrote you into the show.

700
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 5: I think trying to act would have really been a mistake.

701
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 5: The best thing you could do is to not act

702
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 5: and just be like, what would I do in this situation? Yeah,

703
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 5: I mean, because they just took you and put you

704
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: on the show. They didn't even take the time to

705
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: change your name, like this is Gavin. It was like, no,

706
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 5: he's grubs. He picked strings in your life, that's him.

707
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: When I got to set the first time, I remember,

708
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: I went into the hair and makeup trailer and they

709
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: were like, you're not allowed to They were like we

710
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: were We've been told we're not allowed to touch you

711
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: when I first walked in, Like we're not allowed to

712
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: cut your hair, we're not allowed to do anything. We

713
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: have to wait or whatever until like the boss came

714
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: and like signed off on everything, and like it was

715
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: funny because the reason I had long hair on the

716
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: show is because I was so poor that I hadn't

717
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: I just was like haircuts. I can't really afford haircuts

718
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: at this point in life, so I had not gotten

719
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: my haircut in like eight months or something, so my

720
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: hair had just grown out and I had like long

721
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: hair on the show. And then I got there and

722
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: they were like, we love what you've done with your hair,

723
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, actually, like the cruel, the cruel

724
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, society and the world exactly. Yeah, it's so wild,

725
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: Like I mean talk about like feeling like I was

726
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: on me Like I remember like my power got cut

727
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: off at my apartment at one point before I like

728
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: went to shoot because I was just so poor and

729
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: like and you know, it's just that's but you know,

730
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: then I got that uh that uh one Tree Hill.

731
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: Did you think you were going to stay longer than

732
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: an episode? Like once? Once the episode was over, were

733
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: you like, Wow, that was cool, but there's no way

734
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep doing this, Like yeah, I.

735
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: Mean I I never knew exactly what was going on,

736
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: and I was always so terrified of everything and everyone

737
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: to ask you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I

738
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: remember one time I betany you'll you'll you'll love Like

739
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I remember seeing that you got a cucumber sandwich one

740
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: time from Crafty and I was like, yeah, that looks dope.

741
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: That sandwich looks awesome, Like it's like cucumber is a

742
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: little like something. I don't know what it was, but

743
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: I was like and I went over to Crafty and

744
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, can I'm one of those and

745
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: they're like, we we really only do that for her,

746
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, OK. Things, and I like there

747
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: were like a few things that happened like that that

748
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: just kind of like smacked me into place, and I

749
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool, I'm definitely like basically a glorified extra.

750
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: That makes me so mad. I wish you had just

751
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: been like, they won't make me your sandwich? Can I have?

752
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: When I've been like, yeah, here eat this, I'll go

753
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: get a different one.

754
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 5: I know that you would too, in the audacity that

755
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: it's not like a like a faux grass sound word,

756
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 5: like it's not like you know, like sliders, it's cucumbers.

757
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: It's not hidden in the back of the fridge.

758
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

759
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: No, that's unbelievable.

760
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah it's wild. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, there

761
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: were so many wa things like that, but just yeah,

762
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember what your initial question was,

763
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: but the answer is, yes, well.

764
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: We were talking about pup Paul scared you. But then

765
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: oh yeah, but let's talk about Dan and Rachel because

766
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: I think that I feel like it's finally happened. I hope.

767
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: I don't eat my words, but I think Dan actually

768
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: might really be turning a corner this time.

769
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 5: I I agree again, I don't know anything, I like,

770
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 5: I genuinely don't member I remember there. I remember two

771
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: things that happen in the rest of the series with him,

772
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 5: and neither of them, well one of them is admirable

773
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 5: and the other one I don't remember why it happens,

774
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 5: but I'm with you, so I don't know either. But

775
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 5: to give away all of his money and just walk

776
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 5: away from his show, that's that's walking the walk. That's

777
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 5: not just talking.

778
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: I mean, look it to play Devil's Advocate. It is

779
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: the only way that he could win with Rachel, win

780
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: over Rachel. So you know, if you want to look

781
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: at it that way, where he's kind of like, I'll

782
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: always make more money. I've got my mind. I can

783
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: think of new ways to make money and new schemes.

784
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to let her win. I'm going to

785
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: give everything away. He could be doing that.

786
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he also goes over to Jackson though at

787
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: the end, and it's like I've done bad things like

788
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: saying to your little child, you know what I mean,

789
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: like your little grandchaw being like I'm a bad dude,

790
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: you know, Like that's that's.

791
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: Pretty committed for Forgiveness is like the through line for

792
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: him though so far, and it seems like it's sincere.

793
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 5: I think the biggest show of the sincerity is the

794
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 5: fact and of the guilt is the fact that he

795
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 5: chose to take a commuter bus rather than buy a

796
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 5: plane ticket, because that is going to be a long

797
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 5: drive as opposed to a short flight.

798
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: Do we even know where he's going?

799
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 5: No, I don't know why. I kept feeling like he

800
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 5: was going to go like Guatemala, That's.

801
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: What I thought too, But I thought he was going

802
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: to South America.

803
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 5: Interesting.

804
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: Why did I think that?

805
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: I don't know. That's so strange. I hope we get

806
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 5: more of Rachel because the one thing that I loved

807
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 5: that story in this episode, but the one thing I

808
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 5: wanted more of was her to have some recourse or

809
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 5: some I just want to see more of her. She

810
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: was so dynamic this season.

811
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if she sticks around like now, she's

812
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: stuck in Tree Hill. She doesn't have anything. She's going

813
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: to have to figure something else out now, So maybe

814
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: they kept her around. I don't remember. There Oh so

815
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: many things I don't remember.

816
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 5: I thought all of the stuff with uh Haley and

817
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: Nathan and Jamie was was lovely.

818
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: The tomato was so much fun, so.

819
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 5: Fun him doing the Mada door stuff, the Coca del Toro.

820
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: We had to have a story. I have a story

821
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 2: about this so so Jackson's mom was always on set

822
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 2: with him and the shot with him with the bar

823
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 2: of soap in his mouth. They had they had crafted

824
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: this glycerine flavored you know it was. It was a

825
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: bar of soap that could you actually could put in

826
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: your mouth. It probably tasted like strawberry or something. It

827
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: was totally edible. And they showed it to him and

828
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 2: he and they were like, this is the bar of soap.

829
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: It's edible. Don't worry about it. There's no soap in here,

830
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: no nothing. And and our boss asked Jackson's mom if

831
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: it was okay if we saw switched it out for

832
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: a real bar of soap to get a real reaction

833
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: out of him. Sure, And she thought, she was like, oh, sure,

834
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: that'll be funny. And poor Jackson is I don't know

835
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: how old he was at the time. I think it

836
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: was eight or nine, But that age is kind of

837
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: fragile with like it could go either way. You don't

838
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: know if they're just gonna like be like, oh if

839
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: somebody played a joke on me, or if they they

840
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: take it personally. Like my daughter at that age was

841
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: still having a like figuring out humor and so would

842
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 2: take things personally that weren't meant to be personal because

843
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: you're just your brain is starting to compute the world

844
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: and how people joke. Anyway, Sorry, long story boring. I

845
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: get this bar of soap and it's my responsibility to

846
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: shove it into the kid's mouth, and I'm like, here,

847
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: eat this, and we shove it in his mouth and

848
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: he does. You know, he has to sit there for

849
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: a moment with it in his mouth and they're getting

850
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: the straight shot of him. I'm holding it and then

851
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: when he takes it out and it ended up in

852
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: the show where he goes, let's see what I say

853
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: is nasty, it's yucky. He's like, eh, eh, that reaction

854
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: with the real bar so and we all start laughing

855
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: and he's like what what. We're like, we switched it out.

856
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: It's a real bar so, you know, and it was

857
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: supposed to be really fun, and he just did not

858
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: compute the idea of a practical joke and just burst

859
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: into tears, ran off the set, you know, went into

860
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: his mom's arms, and she felt horrible because you know,

861
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: she took the gamble. She was like, oh, let's see

862
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: I felt I felt so bad. I could not believe

863
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: I made that kid cry.

864
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: How does it.

865
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 5: Feel joy knowing that sometime in the future that sweet

866
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 5: boy is going to be a man in therapy talking

867
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: about this very experience of you deceiving him.

868
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: It does not feel good, Robert, it doesn't feel good.

869
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: I remember during the tomato fight. I remember that was

870
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: like really stressful for me because I'm not an athlete

871
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: I think is the word that they say, athletic person.

872
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: And they would be like, hey, we need you to

873
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: throw this and hit Jamie like right in the head

874
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: with this tomato, and it would and I would throw

875
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: the tomato and it would hit like two feet to

876
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: the right, and I would be like, you, guys, should

877
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: really get someone that's like an athlete to do this

878
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: because I'm not. This isn't remember when I played the

879
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: piano and Normone was like, wow, how do you do that?

880
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: That's how I feel when people throw that. And there

881
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: were some like there was like one particularly humiliating moment

882
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: where it was like the an it's like the last

883
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: shot we're getting. I don't know if you remember this.

884
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: We're all standing there and he has this, you know,

885
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: he's got his gear on. He's there it's like his

886
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: hero shot where he's going to take it right in

887
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: the chest and then die. And they're like, you just

888
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: need to throw this right in that little kid's chest.

889
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like maybe four feet away, like I'm like

890
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: as close as I can get with being out of

891
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: cap out of shot, and I'm like, yeah, I got this,

892
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: and they're like action and I throw it and hit

893
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: him in the knee. Cap are like no, the reset

894
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: reset like action and I throw it. I hit him

895
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: in like the you know, shoulder or something, and they're like, nope,

896
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: we got to redo it.

897
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 2: And you're off camera.

898
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm off camera.

899
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: Why didn't they just have James do it exactly?

900
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: And they made We did it so many times and

901
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm having a mental breakdown. I feel like Jackson with

902
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: the bar of soap in my mouth and I'm like,

903
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm not an athlete. And then finally our boss was like,

904
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: I'll actually, I'll just throw it. It's fine, and I

905
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we could have done this from shot one.

906
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: There's no reason for me to be here. Then he

907
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: hit him and like the first time, but yeah, there

908
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: was always moments like that. There's a great line in

909
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: that scene when you walk in joy you say to

910
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: Grubs and James, or you know, to Grubs and Nathan,

911
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: you say, what kind of grown men stand around throwing

912
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: tomatoes at a seven year old? And there's a beat

913
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: and he goes, you want to throw one, don't you?

914
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: And you say, yes, I do.

915
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: It's fun. That's really fun.

916
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: After the after seeing everyone's sitting there covered in tomatoes

917
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: as well, and there's I don't know if you know

918
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm behind it's actually the second time they do a

919
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: behind shot gag, Like there's the one where Buckley you're

920
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: talking on your phone and then behind you Chantelle's feeding

921
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: the cow. Like that was when this was the second

922
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: one like that where you guys are all sitting there

923
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: covered in tomatoes, kind of like living in the joy

924
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: of that fight. And I walk behind you guys, and

925
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm drinking a bloody Mary and I picked a piece

926
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: of tomato off of my shirt, put it in the

927
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: bloody Mary, and then continue to drink it.

928
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: And what I did not notice that I must have

929
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: been looking.

930
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: Down a little easter egg for you guys.

931
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: Was that your idea was that where you directed to

932
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: do that, or was it like, let's just let me.

933
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: Let me I got an idea, let me jump in.

934
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty sure I was directed to do that.

935
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that. I I can't imagine I would

936
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: be so bold as to say I got a funny

937
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: joke that it'd be like cool. The other old I

938
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: should tell you, guys, the other outstanding moment of athleticism

939
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: that happened on this show so for me, was at

940
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: the scene where Chancel does the dance in the gymnasium.

941
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, Buckley. This was

942
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: a scarring moment for me in life in general. So

943
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: I went to set that day because my friends, the

944
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: Frasers were there and my manager, and they basically worked

945
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: them all into the shot. So if you see right

946
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: when Chantelle is getting ready to go to the dance,

947
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: this woman's stay inside her You young girl turns in,

948
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: She's like, you're up or whatever. That is friend of

949
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: a friend of the show, Shelby Fraser, who would come

950
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: hang out and her mom, Debbie Fraser, is one of

951
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: the judges and the other judge is my old manager,

952
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: west Arhuva. So when they showed the managers there, so

953
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: I went to hang out with them on set. There's

954
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: a time where there's a break. Mind you bleachers full

955
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: of people, all these people me on the show, full

956
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: of athletes. I'm basically like a lifelong music nerd, never

957
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: able to do any kind of sports stuff. Terrified on

958
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: the show because all of the actors on the show

959
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: are basically like the alpha versions of the guys that

960
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: used to pick on me, you know what I mean,

961
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: Like the guys that would shove me into a locker.

962
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: The actors on this show are the guys that would

963
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: shove them into a locker, you know what I mean.

964
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: These are like the biggest best dudes, you know what

965
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean. And they're all being nice to me and

966
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why. And so we are all ut

967
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: set and we're all hanging out and everyone's like, start

968
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: shooting basketballs. And it's like it's a basketball show, you

969
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So everyone's shooting basketballs. Some basketball

970
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: bounces to me. I'm wearing no it's literally terrified, but

971
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm like I can do this. I'm wearing this very

972
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: hipster coat that's like very tight fitting, and I go

973
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: to shoot the basketball and my coat won't allow my

974
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: arms to finish the motion. And so I go to

975
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: shoot the ball, arms freeze like halfway through. The ball

976
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: flies like two feet into the air and then falls down,

977
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: and everybody stopped what they were doing the entire like.

978
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: It was like they were like quiet on set, quiet

979
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: on set. Michael did something stupid quite on set and

980
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: everyone and I was like, it's my coat. It's my

981
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: coat's too tight. I can't shoot because of my coat.

982
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. So anyway, that's my my athleticism story

983
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: from the show.

984
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: Thank you for Oh I wish I'd been there that

985
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: day in the gym that would have been It looks

986
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: like a fun day.

987
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 5: It was. It was a fun day. Uh, you know,

988
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 5: watching Chantel be silly the line I have the the

989
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 5: the line out on that scene sucks to be next.

990
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: It was just an ad lib.

991
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I was wondering actually because that's just that just

992
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: seems like you.

993
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I remember just watching her thinking like dude,

994
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 5: I I, I and Clay need to cheer her on

995
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 5: so hard, and so I was just going for it.

996
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 5: I think on the last take yet that's my scream

997
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 5: sucks to be next or whatever. Yeah, and then it

998
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 5: made it.

999
00:47:52,120 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: In Yeah, and then Clay saves the day comes in again.

1000
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: They're having this super formal signing in the living room

1001
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: at Haley getting stressed up for I guess you know,

1002
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: and and here comes Clay and Quinn. But I have

1003
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: to tell you I got emotional. I really it was.

1004
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: It was beautifully done. The revelation of all the things

1005
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 2: that he had done, and the way that he had

1006
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: put all the pieces together and saved the day and

1007
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: kept them. And then he's they're going to stay in Charlotte.

1008
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. It was so exciting.

1009
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 5: I love that he pieced the puzzles together. This was

1010
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: another one of those moments where I found myself going

1011
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 5: or doing We're doing too much guys. Like, first of all,

1012
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 5: it's a why would the agents be in your home

1013
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 5: at night time to sign a deal? Again? Do these

1014
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 5: guys work around the corner? Why are they always in

1015
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 5: your house?

1016
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: At least they weren't standing this time, right.

1017
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 5: But what killed me was it's like again formal meeting

1018
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 5: in your house for some reason that even your child

1019
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 5: is in attendance for. Yeah, and then as like it's

1020
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 5: a good deal, Nathan. You hear the slow clap from

1021
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 5: off camera and Clay walks in, and I just found

1022
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: myself going, this is already such a great moment. You

1023
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 5: don't need to build in a cheesy device like this,

1024
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 5: Like it just felt so stage to me. Like, first

1025
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 5: of all, the front door's in the shot, So the

1026
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 5: only thing that makes sense to me is maybe we

1027
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 5: pulled up and I said, that's the agent's car, and

1028
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 5: Quinn said, let's go in the side door. Don't know why,

1029
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 5: but otherwise you would have seen us walk in.

1030
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: But also if you knew he was there to sign it,

1031
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: you would have tried to get there and like stop it,

1032
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: get in there and not yes, let him sign. So

1033
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: the fact that you're slowly sauntering in, yes, that's so dumb.

1034
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: They made you do that.

1035
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: Also, you're fairly estranged at this point, right, you just

1036
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: into his house unannounced, Like that's another boundary issue that

1037
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: we have from the show.

1038
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 5: Like there's so many Oh buddy, this is I was

1039
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 5: saying last week, if if there had been a therapist

1040
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 5: character on the show, it would have been such a

1041
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 5: Lorraine Brocco. It would have been incredible, But it would

1042
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 5: have been so much more effective if like y'all were

1043
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 5: just sitting around having dinner and just Clay, and Clay

1044
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: walked in, you know, absolutely, and so there wasn't any

1045
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 5: performative aspect to it.

1046
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: Why do the agents have to be there for that scene?

1047
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: Because what he's getting one over on the agents? Like

1048
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: ha ha, who cares about them? We don't even know them,

1049
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: we don't follow their storyline, Like who gives The only

1050
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: people I care about in this scene are you and

1051
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: Quinn and Nathan and Haley, Like that's what's going on.

1052
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 5: And the to me, this was another choice where I

1053
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 5: went like what are you doing? When they actually have

1054
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 5: a moment, Whereas I'm like, I have the great deal.

1055
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 5: I saved the day and the agent's other agents abviously

1056
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 5: realize we've lost this one. As they're walking out, they

1057
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 5: do a special shot of the agent over my shoulder

1058
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 5: and I turn around and he turns around back to

1059
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 5: me and nods at me, like good one kid. It

1060
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 5: was like I just professed my love to this character.

1061
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 5: I just saved my friend's career, and this is the

1062
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 5: moment we want, we want to.

1063
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: Spend time here. Yeah. I think our boss just really

1064
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: had a pensiance for revenge, like he really enjoyed it

1065
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: in all different forms, And so I think that was

1066
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: It just seeped in in random places like that.

1067
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 5: He wrote and directed this episode, and this episode it

1068
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 5: was funny. There's a there's a quote in it that

1069
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 5: I had to stop the show and just say to

1070
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 5: Jenny out loud. I was like, you're not gonna just

1071
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,479
Speaker 5: said no. This was Julian when he says, I'm mad

1072
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 5: at you. You know what happens when you die, Alex,

1073
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 5: You're dead, That's what happens. I said that. I go, Jenny,

1074
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 5: this was This was an unroonic line in the show.

1075
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 5: And she says it sounds like it was written by

1076
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 5: someone who was really feeling themselves. And I went, that's

1077
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 5: wildly appropriate.

1078
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: Actually, honey, nothing as far as like strong lines go,

1079
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: nothing beats the Millie. Ever. Whenever I see that mirror,

1080
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: all I want to do is cut up a line

1081
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: of coke on it that way.

1082
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, she said what I want

1083
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: to do. I just want to cut a line and

1084
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: snort it. Oh, she had to say those words out loud.

1085
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 5: And mind you grubbs, because just a little backstory, she's

1086
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 5: been she's been a model for two weeks. This is

1087
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 5: the most expedited tale of drug addiction that you've ever seen,

1088
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 5: and so the fact this has been ever since it started,

1089
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 5: this has been the thing I have just railed on

1090
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 5: every single episode of this podcast because I just can't.

1091
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 5: Lisa is so good and this story is so garbage

1092
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 5: the way it's done. And this episode when she says

1093
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 5: this presumably thirty year old person who's been doing coke

1094
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 5: for two weeks can't look at a mirror at that

1095
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 5: loan to snore a line off it, Yeah, and then

1096
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 5: she sneaks out of rehab like she can't hack it. It

1097
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 5: was just she's so good and I just watch it, going, oh,

1098
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 5: you deserve so much better, Lisa Goldstein.

1099
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: I think, honestly, that's probably why nobody fought back the

1100
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: scene where they walk you were talking about where they

1101
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 2: walk in and they're sitting in the blood. I think

1102
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: Lisa and Lee were both exhausted from the absurdity of

1103
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: this storyline and having to just deal with it on

1104
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: a regular basis. That that just seemed to me like

1105
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: two actors that walked in the room and the director

1106
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: told them what to do, and they were like, really

1107
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: can't we you know what, never mind, just tell us

1108
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: where to be. We'll just do it. Let's get it

1109
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: over with.

1110
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: I have a quick side step and then I have

1111
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: a question. Really quickly. Side step is one to go

1112
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: back to the house for one seconds. I don't want

1113
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: to leave this, I was saying this. I was just

1114
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: so happy that you got there alive, luckily, because I

1115
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: was sure when a French cinema has taught me anything.

1116
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: When a young couple that is falling in love drives

1117
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: around in a car like that, so many scenes in

1118
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: the car, that car is going off the road. There's

1119
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: no way we're making it that house in one piece.

1120
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: And when you made it there, I was like, that

1121
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: is brave to go against cinematic trope at that level.

1122
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 1: That and the other thing when you're at the house

1123
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: when she I love the moment when he says this

1124
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: is a good deal. It's going to be seven million dollars.

1125
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: I see, Joy. You go there all right like that.

1126
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: Then you come in here like how about fifteen million

1127
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: dollars and Joy's like all right, Like so you make

1128
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: this whole face like okay, we'll take the fifteen Like

1129
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: it was just like yeah, such the little in your

1130
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: face like I'm rich Like it was. It was awesome.

1131
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: I loved your b.

1132
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 2: To be talking about it in front of the kid.

1133
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: Too, Like, but so this, so this takes me back.

1134
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: Now I'll return to our previous discussion. I'm sorry I

1135
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: had to take us away for it, but that I

1136
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: had to do. I had to say those things. When

1137
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: did you got what was your biggest moment where you

1138
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: got a script and there was a line in it

1139
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: and you were like no way, Like did you get

1140
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: Like was there a moment where you had like a

1141
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: line that you were like, I don't know how I

1142
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: pulled this.

1143
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: I just always changed them.

1144
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was scared to do that.

1145
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it pissed people off for sure, but

1146
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: I was like, this is stupid. I'm not going to

1147
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: say I probably skipped over some lines that maybe could

1148
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: have worked well because I was a little cocky about it.

1149
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of times I just was like, yeah.

1150
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 5: No, I don't remember any specific lines, but I had

1151
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 5: some story stuff where I just kind of went, what, yeah,

1152
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 5: what are we doing?

1153
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: Really? I just remember like getting the scripts and just

1154
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: thinking like they're they're just telling me what I'm going

1155
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: to do. Like that's a there's a wild level of

1156
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: trust with like you and your in the character and

1157
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: they and luckily I feel like I was. This has

1158
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: been kind of like discussed around with me and some

1159
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: of other folks. I feel like when I was cast

1160
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: on the show, I was the character version of the Boss,

1161
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: like he basically wrote me to He was writing himself

1162
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: into the show in his mind. He made me this

1163
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: like lovable guy that everyone comes to for advice or whatever,

1164
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: and it set me up and they were always really

1165
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: nice to me. But I can't tell you how many

1166
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: times I thought like they could easily have made me

1167
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: someone who like can't even go to the store to

1168
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: get groceries without someone being like, you're bad. You know,

1169
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: Like if I think about like like Jeffrey from Jeffrey

1170
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: from like Game of Thrones, and it's like, man, that's

1171
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 1: gonna be tough walking around that all the time. Anyway, Sorry,

1172
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: a bit of a bit of a side step.

1173
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's there's so many different ways that

1174
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: things could go, which is why when storylines like this

1175
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: Millie and Alex thing kind of gets through and slips

1176
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: through the cracks, you're just like hat or Robert, what

1177
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 2: you're talking about, where you're reading storylines going, why are

1178
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: we you know, the one that's coming up with the

1179
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: look alike and all that. That's one of those ones

1180
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 2: You're just like, what are what are we doing? Why

1181
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: are we running out of ideas? There's so many of them.

1182
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 5: The fact that we actually did the soap opera thing

1183
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 5: of hiring back the same actress Amanda Schule to play

1184
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 5: a different random girl who just looks like my wife

1185
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 5: and becomes fatally obsessed with me. The fact that that

1186
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 5: isn't the craziest storyline that Clay has tells you something.

1187
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: It sure does mid Shure does.

1188
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 5: We were like the classier or more bougie version of

1189
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 5: do you remember that show Passions?

1190
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: Of course I remember Passion like Witches.

1191
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 5: And like it was queer.

1192
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: People loved it, they did.

1193
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 5: I thought that Janna and Austin did well, did very well.

1194
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 5: They did as well as you could have with that material. Yeah,

1195
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 5: but I just thought, and there was a couple like

1196
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 5: when Dan's giving a great speech, the fact they added

1197
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 5: in the gunshot sound when he's talking about Keith dying.

1198
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: Paul committed to that so hard because he was like,

1199
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: I want you to kneel down and like say goodbye

1200
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: to your brother down in the ground. It's like me, man,

1201
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: all right, okay, I'll make it work.

1202
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 5: I mean, and they made such a meal of it.

1203
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 5: And then when uh or yeah, when Julian holds Alex's hand,

1204
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 5: the fact that at that very moment, Brooke walks up

1205
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 5: and that's what she sees, and it.

1206
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: Was just, yeah, it's heavy handed, very it's too much.

1207
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: I really this the sort of pat answer of Julie

1208
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: Brooke helping Julian realize that he's trying to save his

1209
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: mom by saving all these girls. I think it's a

1210
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: very real issue that people struggle with. I think it's

1211
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: actually one of the most common things in relationships that

1212
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: we are constantly trying to work out childhood things on

1213
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 2: the people that we're with. So we're trying to save

1214
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: our mom or make a have a good relationship with

1215
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: our dad or whatever, and then we pick people that

1216
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: are going to make that difficult so that we can

1217
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: resolve the issue. And then you know, Freud tells us, hey,

1218
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 2: now you've fixed it. I mean, it's it's pretty textbook. However,

1219
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: the answer that he gives her, I can't remember the

1220
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: very last quote that he says there, but but her

1221
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: not having a response, it was something about like if

1222
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: I can Oh, he says something about if I can

1223
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: help her, maybe I can help her before her light

1224
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: goes out, before it's too late or something.

1225
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 5: Before her fire goes out. And even if it doesn't,

1226
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 5: at least I try.

1227
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: Thank you, and Brooke doesn't respond, and I keep thinking,

1228
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 2: why are you not saying I'm the one you're dating,

1229
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: worry about my fire, put my fire out? I mean,

1230
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: help me keep my fire going or whatever, like this

1231
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: is not This is not healthy. So the fact that

1232
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: she recognized it but then wasn't willing to call him

1233
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: on it, I thought was really strange. But maybe that's

1234
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: coming up. Maybe they're just setting it up for the

1235
00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: next episode.

1236
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 5: So for an episode where every scene was trying to

1237
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 5: just do the most, it was odd that the last scene,

1238
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 5: this random dude walks into close over bros. My first

1239
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 5: thought was boring entrance. I thought, Holy, does she get

1240
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 5: assaulted again?

1241
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1242
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 5: And then okay, because his vibe is weird Yeah, And

1243
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 5: then it's not and he's just like, I'm the new

1244
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 5: designer that said Victoria hired and she's like oh, And

1245
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 5: it cuts to black, so I'm thinking it's fizzile there

1246
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 5: wasn't even a vibeer were trying to introduce a new

1247
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 5: potential suitor, because if so, that was the That was

1248
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 5: the worst first encounter. Like for an episode where every

1249
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 5: single scene was a ten, they randomly chose a thirty

1250
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 5: second scene that was a four.

1251
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: It's just so dumb. It was so dumb. Why would

1252
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 2: they not get into a fender bender when he's pulling

1253
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: up outside and start screaming at each other and then

1254
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: she's like, who the hell are you? Anyway while I'm

1255
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: your new designer? Okay, interesting, I don't know if she's

1256
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: closing up the store and he's stumbling in and I

1257
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: mean it's an dark and he's like, I'm trying to

1258
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: find the light. Victoria told me to come in. Who

1259
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: the hell are you? I'm your new design like something.

1260
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: He just walks in the door. Anything.

1261
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,959
Speaker 5: Have him being charming, have him maybe I think Brooke

1262
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 5: is anything like it's not a time, but he brought coffee, Like.

1263
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: Walk in eating a bowl of spaghetti and I would

1264
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: be interested.

1265
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 5: Anything would have been good.

1266
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: He just looks at the camera and he's like, I'm handsome.

1267
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 5: That was the Seriously, my note is just jawline in

1268
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 5: an accent. Yeah, no disrespect to those actors. Handsome, but

1269
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 5: I just thought it was sort of like they thought

1270
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 5: he was just so good looking that they were like,

1271
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 5: we don't need to put anything on this handsome hot dog.

1272
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 5: It's a perfect plain. It's like, no, give him some

1273
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 5: dialogue something.

1274
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: Bitch is his name? It's super sweet guy, super sweet Mitch. Yeah,

1275
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: Aussie stud.

1276
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 5: This show really has done, at least since I've started watching,

1277
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 5: has done a really good job of sticking the landing

1278
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 5: with introlling new characters, except so far, on this one,

1279
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 5: it felt like an actual afterthought. It felt like this

1280
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 5: should be the first scene of the next episode, but

1281
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 5: they were like forty seconds short, and they took like

1282
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 5: the forty seconds off the top of that scene and

1283
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 5: just put to the end of this episode.

1284
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: That's funny.

1285
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 5: We're so good.

1286
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: I wonder if they did. Wait, Mike, are you still

1287
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: in touch with him? With Mitch? You guys still friends?

1288
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: No, I think we became Facebook friends on that time,

1289
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: and then his name comes up because we're Facebook friends.

1290
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: We haven't really had interaction or whatever.

1291
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: So, but you stayed in touch with a lot of

1292
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Speaker 2: people on the show. I mean you, you and Kate

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01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 2: Vogel are in a band now, Your Future Ghost, which

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Speaker 2: I want to hear all about. Can you tell us

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01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 2: about that? And also I want to hear about everyone's

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01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: doing great your show that you're scoring with James Lafferty

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01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: or James's show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for asking about these things. They are so

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01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: important to me.

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Speaker 5: That's all the time we have folks. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about it. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So, Kate and I started writing together during the pandemic

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: and we were writing over Zoom a lot, and suddenly

1304
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: it was like, hey, this is really cool. And Kate

1305
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: and I were always buds, but we never had like

1306
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: deep deep budded down like you know, like band style,

1307
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: and suddenly we found we're riding together and we're like,

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01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: this is really good stuff. And it suddenly it was like, hey,

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01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: let's release the song together. And then it began like, hey,

1310
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: why don't we do a couple of songs? And then

1311
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: we're like, this doesn't really feel like my music, doesn't

1312
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: feel like your music. This feels like our music. And

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01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: then it grew and grew and grew, and now we

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01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: are a band called Your Future Ghost, and it's the

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01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: coolest music anyone who's ever made in the world and yeah,

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01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: we actually just had it crazy. We filmed a music

1317
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: video in the desert, and I mean, hindsight kind of

1318
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: scary at the time. Like Kate literally ended up in

1319
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: the emergency room. She got she got what they called

1320
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: water intoxication. She drank too much water, right, she drank

1321
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: too much water and ended up in the hospital with

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01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: an IV and I couldn't talk. It was wild. She's

1323
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: fine now and we just from the rest of that. Yeah, there,

1324
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: it's true.

1325
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 5: Typically only happens in people doing like ultra marathons and marathons,

1326
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 5: they overhydrate and that's Kate. She rocks so hard.

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01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: She rocks so hard.

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 5: That's so hard, she rocks.

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01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: She uh yeah, but she's good. And we just don't

1330
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: finished filming that. And so we have another We have

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01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 1: another single coming out soon. So if fans at home,

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01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: you can go to our Instagram your Future Ghosts and

1333
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: you can find out more about that. There's going to

1334
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: be a link there to get news about our upcoming single,

1335
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: like a pre save please do it. So James and Steven,

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01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: James Laferna and Stephen Clettie made this wonnerful show called

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01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: Everyone's Doing Great I did the score for the first

1338
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: season and then came one for the second season to

1339
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: do the score again, and it just keeps getting better

1340
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 1: and betterssed so so much fun. It's the best thing

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01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: in the world.

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01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: It's such a good score. By the way, Mike, I mean,

1343
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: it really gives the show so much character. I feel like,

1344
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: in the same way that the town was the character

1345
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: in One Tree Hill, it was its own character. Your

1346
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: music has created that environment for everyone's doing great. It's

1347
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: it's it's just grounding, sophisticated, interesting, complex, but it makes

1348
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: the goofy comedy really work. And the sarcasm. I mean,

1349
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: it's great, it's great.

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01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I mean, it's my dream to,

1351
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: like my if I got to pick a career, I

1352
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: would score Stilman TV and movies and stuff. It's my

1353
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: favorite thing I do. And yeah, and these guys have

1354
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: been awesome.

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01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 5: I also want to say before we hop off the

1356
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 5: episode that Miss Lauren and Skills were so sweet and

1357
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 5: I wish we had a lot more of them.

1358
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1359
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that whole thing where she was where she says,

1360
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 5: you didn't even ask me, and he's like, oh my gosh,

1361
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. You have come and she says no,

1362
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 5: but it's nice to be asked. Oh yeah, it's so sweet.

1363
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: I love her.

1364
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 5: I miss She's so good. She's so good and the

1365
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 5: two of them together are great. Always want more of them.

1366
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: Ashley wants to know the question is for whenever you

1367
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: get grubs on the podcast, A Ashley, it's your lucky day. Okay, me,

1368
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 2: Sof and Rob are sitting down at your bar, what

1369
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: is our drink of choice?

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01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, First off, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to

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01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: double the security at the bar because I got three

1372
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: super bids sitting down at my bar. Whoa crowd control?

1373
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: Crowd control is gonna be of essence for you three guys.

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: I feel like, for for So, For Soph, I'm thinking

1375
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: something like, I feel like she's always very on trend

1376
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: and very aware of like what's going on. She's very

1377
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: like like amazing, uh at, She's always just like the

1378
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: coolest And I feel like, right now, I see a

1379
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 1: lot of espressal Mark teenies, Yeah, she's with the times.

1380
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: I see a lot of Espresso Martinez around. I think

1381
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: i'd make her something espresso based that would be like

1382
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: an up cocktail. It would be sophisticated. It would style, Yeah,

1383
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: a little vodka a little bit like like and but

1384
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: it chilled up drink that she could have that would

1385
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: then I think, Joy, I think for you, we're looking

1386
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: at and I don't know because I've seen you backstage

1387
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: have different drinks, So this is this is just a

1388
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: single drink moment. I don't know if this is like

1389
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: for your forever cocktail, but I would love to make

1390
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: you something very sophisticated with gin and a coup that

1391
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: would be like almost gone in like four SIPs kind

1392
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: of thing. Maybe top it with a little shampers, you

1393
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like.

1394
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: A little Bee's knees or like an aviation or something.

1395
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: Oh totally exactly. That's what I'm talking. A little French

1396
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: seventy five energy, you know what I mean, like something

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01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: that's like, uh, that sizzles, but also that goes with

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01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: your outfit.

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01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: Wow, you nailed it.

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01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Buckley, I'm thinking for you, I wanted to

1401
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: be a little more on the healthy side, you know

1402
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm seeing I'm seeing something that's going

1403
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,479
Speaker 1: to be like like soda based, you know, like there's

1404
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of like really good bubbles in there.

1405
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some some herb, some herbal kind of

1406
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: things going on in there, and then uh, maybe something

1407
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: really just really fresh. I wanted to just feel fresh

1408
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: and healthy. I want in a tall glass that's got

1409
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: lots of ice in it, and I wanted just to

1410
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 1: feel like, like, you know, like this is this is Buckley,

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01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: Like it's a sexy it's a sexy tallboy drink.

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01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 5: Dude. That's actually because I'm a soda water guy. So

1413
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 5: if you throw some soda water, you muddle up a

1414
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 5: little herb or food in their power. Do you actually

1415
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 5: have a gift grubs?

1416
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 2: This is cool. You got to use this. I feel

1417
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 2: like this is like Joey on Friends when he finds

1418
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: his hand twin and he goes to Vegas and he's like,

1419
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 2: we got to do something with this. I don't know

1420
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do with this, but this is a

1421
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 2: real skill.

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01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's just say I'm good at parties, guys,

1423
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm good at parties.

1424
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 5: If you're not doing this when you do shows, you

1425
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,919
Speaker 5: are wasting. What you should do is offer an experience

1426
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 5: where people can pay to meet you after the show,

1427
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 5: and you guess their drink wow, and then maybe you

1428
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 5: have a bar there to make it for him.

1429
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they also make it.

1430
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll just write down what they should order at

1431
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: the next bar that they go to. Like it, like

1432
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: be like, this is what need to drink, this is

1433
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: what you need to have.

1434
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 5: Great. So we do a thing every episode where we

1435
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 5: pick an honorable mention from each episode. My honorable mention

1436
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 5: is it's Chantel dancing. Oh, yes, that's just that was

1437
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 5: team player to the core right there. Yes, she had

1438
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 5: to do a lot of that on this show actually,

1439
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 5: but this was the first one.

1440
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: I'll give it to Chantell Trying to feed the cow

1441
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,879
Speaker 2: behind you. That just was my favorite.

1442
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 5: It was so hysterical, which, by the way, that was

1443
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 5: scripted that she goes to feed the cow and the

1444
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 5: cow chases her, and the cow was not chasing her

1445
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 5: at all. So what you see is she's just she's

1446
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 5: just making it work as best she can. The cow

1447
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 5: stays perfectly still, and she still runs away even though

1448
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 5: the cow has done nothing. That's her just really committing

1449
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 5: to the bit. So good grubs. How about you?

1450
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: I love the you flipping the phone into the pool

1451
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: at the top Bucks. Oh, I love that I think

1452
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: also though, I really I always appreciate anytime that India

1453
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: is on screen. India played Miranda, my love interest on

1454
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: the show India the Before, and she is such a

1455
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: rock star. And the moment where she comes in and

1456
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: suddenly I can't actually guess her drink.

1457
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh that's so good.

1458
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's like I can guess everyone's drink

1459
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: but hers, because it's like, what's going on with these two?

1460
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 2: And you show up with all the bottles in your arms, Yeah,

1461
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: tell me what do you want?

1462
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: And she just takes one, pours herself a shadow with you,

1463
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: and then like hands it back, right.

1464
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 5: You see, that is a that's a perfect example of

1465
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 5: how you introduce chemistry. Yes, like that was so effective.

1466
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 5: I thought the same thing. I'm like, oh, she's his

1467
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 5: kryptonite and he's flustered for the first time ever. There's

1468
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 5: something here Like that was a great use of showing

1469
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 5: there's something to start, whereas like the scene at the

1470
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 5: end with Brook and the guy, there's literally nothing except going.

1471
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, all right, Like he's not a bad guy, right,

1472
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: he's to do anything bad? Right? Yeah?

1473
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, truly?

1474
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I love it. Well, it's been a wheel, folks. Yeah,

1475
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 2: I hope we find out that Dan did go to

1476
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: Guatemala or too gosh, Chile or something really cool.

1477
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: GRIBs, go ahead and read it most likely to skydive

1478
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: out of a hot air balloon.

1479
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: That feels like it would be very stupid, because don't

1480
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 2: you have to be up much higher to skydive and

1481
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 2: get the velocity that you need for safe landing.

1482
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 5: I think it's around thirteen thousand feet?

1483
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: Is it the same? Do they go up the same height?

1484
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: That's a guy fact, Rob, The fact you dropped thirteen

1485
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: thousand feet just like that, that's a guy fact. That's

1486
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: like knowing what the population of Australia is just out

1487
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: of your Yeah.

1488
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 5: Listen, I've done it once. And when they open up

1489
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 5: a giant door on the plane and they say we're

1490
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 5: thirteen thousand feet, we're gonna fall out. Now you remember

1491
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 5: that moment?

1492
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: Yes, you do? Oh my god?

1493
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 5: I would I mean Alex because she's just an absolute

1494
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 5: wild card. I think if Julian said I'd like you

1495
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 5: to go skydiving, she would say.

1496
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 2: Absolutely yes, out of time.

1497
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 5: I don't even need a parachute, Julian, you tell me

1498
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 5: to do it, I'll do it.

1499
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: I'll jump. I would go. I would go skydiving out

1500
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: of a hot air balloon only for one reason, if

1501
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: the hot air balloon was going down and I needed

1502
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: a way out.

1503
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 5: And you were just that prepared.

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01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: Well, do you know? I actually was dating somebody at

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01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 2: one point who was like, tried to wakem up really

1506
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: early and was like, I got a surprise. I'm going

1507
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 2: to take you in a hot air balloon. And I

1508
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,879
Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, there's a there's a parachute

1509
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: in it, right? He was like, no, no, I'm like, oh,

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm not going in a hundred ballion with had a parachute.

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01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: There's just there's no way. I'm a single mother. I

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01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 2: can't die.

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01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 5: I love the idea. The picture of you still on

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01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 5: the pillow, Oh my god, that's so sweet. Is there

1515
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 5: a parachute? No, okay, I'm not going and you just

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01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 5: roll back over. He's like, oh, oh.

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: I'll cancel that. Then they're outside, but no problem.

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01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: Can you get your hope you can get your money back, right, honey?

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01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah? I could see mouth jumping out and

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01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 1: it would be to save like a kitten or something,

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01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 1: because he's such a sweet guy. He'd be like, I'm

1522
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: I see something in danger down there. I'm gonna go

1523
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: see He's such a good guy, that's what I see.

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01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 5: But seriously, Grubbs, thank you for joining us today because,

1525
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 5: A it's so good just to see your face, buddy,

1526
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 5: it's been so long, and it's really just so lovely

1527
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 5: to catch up with you. You look great. I'm glad you're

1528
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,799
Speaker 5: doing great. This was awesome.

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01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: Thank you right back at you guys. You guys are

1530
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 1: such I mean, like literally total rockstars, and it's so

1531
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: great to get to chat with you guys for an hour.

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01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: It makes me feel just so full of joy and

1533
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: so grateful to be here and be part of this

1534
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 1: amazing thing you guys have felt so Thank you so

1535
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: much for having me.

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01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't wait to keep tabs on what you're

1537
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: doing too. I'm gonna go, everybody, go check out your

1538
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: future ghost and go watch. Everyone is doing great and

1539
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to keep up with Michael Grubbs.

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 2: Next episode, Season seven, episode thirteen. Weeks go by like days.

1541
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: I wonder what will happen next. Bye, everybody, Bye, Hey,

1542
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 2: thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review.

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1544
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Speaker 2: See you next time we all about that high school drama.

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