WEBVTT - Historical Records: Claudette Colvin (feat. Roxane Gay) 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.920 Hey, what's up, y'all? This is Questlove. Get ready to 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:06.160 check out an episode of Historical Records executive produced by 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.479 myself and the story pirates. It's an explosive fusion of 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.520 hip hop and history, tailor made for music loving kids 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:17.040 and families. You're that correctly something the entire family can 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:21.439 listen to and enjoy together. In this episode, host Nemony 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.279 creates a hip hop track about the civil rights activist 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.960 Claudette Covid, who, as a teenager, refused to give up 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.000 her seat on an Alabama city bus months before Rosa 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:35.200 Park's famous protest. Get your kids, sit back and enjoy 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.400 Historical Records, the show that proves that in order to 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:40.640 make history, you have to make some noise. 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.120 Hello, listeners, it's me Nemony. I'm here in my top 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:48.919 secret underground bunker. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:54.080 As usual, I'm with my team of sound engineer Raccoons, Tina. 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:55.200 Don't be rude. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.680 Hello, Now follow me everyone, and justin heads up. I 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.360 want very quickly. Some say that the way I walk 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.720 is nearly running, but we have no time to waste 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:10.800 because today's historical figure is Clawet Colvin. Luckily, the conditions 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.399 for historical research are perfect. It's a beautiful day inside 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.840 my top secret underground bunker. It might even be a 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.679 beautiful day outside my top secret underground bunker. To be honest, 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:21.480 I wouldn't know. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:27.640 I haven't been outside in a Week's what, Tua? 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:28.720 That's crazy? 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.360 You want me to go outside right now? 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.240 Why would I do that? 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:37.000 Whoa Tina? 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.119 When you're right? You're right, Going outside. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.480 Is critical for my mental health. We have a lot 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.000 to do, but I should take a quick moment to 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.760 look outside and feel the sun on my face. Okay, 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.880 I'll just peek out this emergency exit. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:56.360 And why did I do that? 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.360 It's Historical Records. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:08.880 You are now listening to Historical We're to make history. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.600 You got to have struggles to make history. You got 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:12.440 to show poised. 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.400 Cannot be quiet loud as the riot to make history, 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:16.040 you gotta. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.080 Make some noise. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:23.840 Listeners, welcome back to Historical Records, where we conduct highly 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:29.519 experimental experiments combining history and hip hop. Today's episode is 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:33.639 about the trailblazing civil rights activist CLAUW Deck Covin. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.160 Also, I just tripped the alarm. The alarm has been 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:42.680 tripped there maybe and intruder. No, no, no, there's no intrudery. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:43.080 It was me. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.200 I cannot thank your word. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:49.080 Worry, I'll come on disembodied robot BOYD. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.359 Three that might come in one minute, or the authority 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:54.760 will be old. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:03:00.320 Oh no, I hate bureaucracy. Also one meant that's not 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:01.160 a lot of wiggle room. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.440 And I don't even know where to turn off the 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:08.080 securities and stuff. Tina, why don't we got it down? Wait? 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.760 We have a security center I passed yesterday. That must 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.720 be where we have to turn this thing off. If 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:17.519 I'm remembering correctly, it's directly below us, about forty stories down. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:22.919 Come on, raccoons, we'll take the stairs. Ah, you're right, 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:28.120 we won't get there fast enough. Brilliant idea, Tina. We'll 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.360 jump down the garbage chute and it'll take us straight there. Raccoon, 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:38.320 you go first, now to fold myself in half and 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.440 fit into the garbage suit. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:49.520 I'm really oh my lord, oh soft. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.960 Oh that's nice, Tina? How nice is this? 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:57.600 Am? I? Right? Okay, no time, we got to turn 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:58.280 this thing off. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:03:58.920 You have. 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.640 All right, Let's open up the breaker and see what 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.560 where were you with? Oh no, that is a lot 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:08.880 of plugs and wires. 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.760 Recommendation, do not run the wrong wire. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:20.000 Not good, Tina, Any ideas I got you? Honey, Mama? 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:21.240 What are you doing here? 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.920 Well, sweetie, for one, I thought I helped you turn 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:24.560 off the alarm. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.560 Trust me, you do not want to deal with all 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:28.320 that paperwork. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:29.360 You're right about that. 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.920 I just got to pull out the right plug. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.880 I did not see this coming, Mama. You sure you 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:35.919 know which wants to pull. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.480 It's this one, I think. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:41.560 Shut down? 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:44.800 You did it? 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.720 Now, give me a second. I gotta boot it back up. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:50.800 We don't want any in just getting in here. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.479 Systems intuders don't stand a can. 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.360 How in the world did you know how to do that? 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:00.000 Honey? 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:04.000 I set up the whole security system. You did, Yes, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.040 you hit a lot on your plate at the time. 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.479 Okay, I want to hear way more about that, but 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.599 right now I'm running a little behind, and I have 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.599 to track down one of my historians. Of course, I'll 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.679 see you later, okay, Mom, Bye, Honey. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:17.400 I'm proud of you. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.000 Listeners, keep up with me. We're walk running to the library, 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.039 and while we're on the move, I need to level 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:23.279 with you. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.480 The good news is that I have a truly sick 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.800 be lined up for today. The slightly less good news 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.200 is that I really do not know much about today's 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.680 historical figure. I mean, I know Claudette Covin was a 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.160 part of the civil rights movement, fighting for equal rights 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:39.960 for black people in America, but. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.479 Obviously I need more than that. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:46.200 And here we are at the gigantic library. 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.560 Gosh, I love it in here. So now we just 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.320 need to find a lead so she can give us 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:51.360 some historical help. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.120 That was a weird echo that sounded nothing like me anyway, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:57.960 like I was saying, because I don't have enough. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.799 Info right now. I guess you could say I'm stuck. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:00.799 I'm stuck. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.920 Okay, I can't be the only one hearing that bad 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.279 echo that sounds nothing like my voice. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.080 Nimini, I'm not an echo. It's me Lee. 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.440 I'm trapped under a giant book. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:17.960 WHOA look at the giant book. I'm coming one, two, three. 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:24.440 You. Oh, that is much better, Lee. I know you 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.200 like to bear your head in a book, but that 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:27.200 was a bit much. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.120 It was actually really informative until the emotional weight of 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.400 history and the actual weight of that huge book became 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:39.520 too much. Anyway, are you ready to immerse yourself in history? 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.160 As long as you know what I mean, trapping ourselves 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:43.159 under that book. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.960 Absolutely well, then step into the history simulator. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.839 Lee, with respect, I wish the history simulator didn't look 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.279 like a gooey alien pod. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.479 I'll consider that feedback for my next simulator. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.719 Okay, where are we hitting to see? 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.400 A very brave young woman who refuses to give up 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.719 her seat on the bus, Claudette Colvin. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.960 Wait wait, wait wait, I thought that was Rosa Parks. 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.320 Rosa Parks refuse to give up her seat, But Claudette 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:15.560 Colvin did it first. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:16.800 Well, it's a twist. 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:17.760 I had no idea. 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:19.280 You know what, before we. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.440 Go visit Claudette Colvin, let's bop around a bit, get 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:23.480 the full context. 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:24.600 I like it. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.840 Nineteen sixty four, Here we come. 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:35.560 Whoo, Lee? Are we on a live TV set? 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:36.200 You bet? 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:36.600 We are? 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.560 Oh cool? Look at those four dudes in suits. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.600 Those four dudes are the Beatles and this is their 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.720 USA debut on the Ex Cullivan Show. There was so 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.800 much exciting stuff at this time. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:56.600 Who you gotta warm me when we're taking off? 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:57.280 Lee? Ah? 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.560 So where are we now? What are all these buttons hoston? 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.640 We are a gover, Lee, I'm on a spaceship not 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.160 just any spaceship, the first one to ever land on 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:07.560 the moon. 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.080 Actually Houston over about a second, it seems a weird 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.720 alien pond just appeared on our spaceship. 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.400 Uh, whoopspeed, gotta go, Niminy. We're taking off to March 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.520 twenty fifth, nineteen sixty five. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:26.080 Lee. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.640 This crowd we're in is huge. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.880 There must be twenty five thousand people and we appear 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.880 to be marching toward that official looking building. 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.640 Incredible, guest, Nimini, there are twenty five thousand people and 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.080 that building is the Alabama State Capitol in Montgomery. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:42.679 Hm. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.480 Why do I feel like we're witnessing one of the 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.439 biggest moments of activism in the civil rights movement? 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:49.719 Because we are. 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.560 You see, four days ago, about three thousand people had 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:57.240 gathered in Selma, Alabama, fifty four miles away and began 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:58.640 the march to the capitol. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.880 That's a law march. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.880 And you're saying most of this crowd joined the march 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:05.600 along the way. Yeah. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.679 For four days people came out all along the march route, 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.120 dressed in their Sunday best, to sit on their porches 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.240 and wave at the marchers, cheering with support and admiration 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:18.000 and At each town, more marchers of all ages join 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.840 the group, waving American flags and making front page headlines 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:22.880 in the newspapers. 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.160 And once this huge crowd gets to the capitol, what 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:26.719 do they do. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.960 They're going to deliver a petition signed by black voters 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.359 demanding an end to discriminatory voting registration practices. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.560 Wait, so you mean to tell me that even though 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.480 black people have the right to vote in nineteen sixty four, 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.200 some people would still try to stop them from voting. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:49.800 Exactly, Many states would use racist strategies like intentionally confusing 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:54.800 and misleading literacy tests to prevent black voters from successfully registering. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.040 That's horrible, it was. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.319 Which is why activists were organizing and fighting to draw 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:01.440 attention to their cause. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.080 And luckily this march did just that. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.240 It did, but even that was a struggle. The first 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.679 two times they attempted a march to Montgomery, they were 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:14.040 met with violent resistance from Heckler's and state police. Awful 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.520 images broadcast on black and white TVs shocked people in 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.880 households across the country, and even motivated the President to 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.360 provide US Army troops and the Alabama National Guard to 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.199 protect the marchers On their third attempt. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.440 It sounds like it took so much organizing and fighting. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:32.800 Is that Martin. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.560 Luther King Junior giving a speech? 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:36.600 Indeed it is, Oh. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.480 I know this parts, oh, and it gives me chills 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:40.240 every time. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:44.520 This is where doctor King says, I come to. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:49.840 Say to you this afternoon, however difficult the moment, however frustrate, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.559 in the hour, It will not be long. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:56.160 Because truth crust to earth will rise again. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:58.920 How long? Not long? 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.280 Because no lie I can live forever. 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:02.600 How long? 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:07.600 Not long? Because you shall reap what you sew? How long? 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:08.720 Not long? 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.800 Because the arc of the moral universe is long, but 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.200 it bends toward justice. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.520 Flown Emony, You really know that speech? 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.800 Absolutely, I have the whole thing memorized. But where does 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.160 Claudette Covin come into this? 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.119 And now did a southern city Liketgomery, Alabama become. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.600 The center for the civil rights movement? Phenomenal questions. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.360 Let's stay in Montgomery, but go back a little further 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:37.360 and take a look. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.679 I know where we are, but I don't know when 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.360 we are. And why are black and white people drinking 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.000 from different water fountains over there? 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:54.600 It's nineteen fifty five, ten years before the Voting Rights March. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.000 A time when people were separated by the color of 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.480 their skin. This is called segregation, and according to a 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.120 set of laws called Jim Crow Laws that have been 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.760 around since the end of the Civil War, it's legal. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.240 That's about one hundred years of laws invented to make 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:15.600 life harder for Black Americans. There are separate drinking fountains, elevators, hospitals, 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.720 bathrooms and breakrooms, swimming pools, churches, lunch counters. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.199 The list goes on and on. 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.839 And buses. Black Americans were forced to sit in the 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:25.960 back of buses. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:30.000 And in Montgomery, forty thousand black residents ride the buses. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.520 That's seventy five percent of the total riders in the city. 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.600 And yet they are legally forced to enter through the 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.920 overcrowded back door of the bus, sit in the back seats, 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.720 and give up their seats for any white passengers who 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:43.520 want to sit down. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.200 But if we're in nineteen fifty five, didn't the federal 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:51.040 government at least order schools to be integrated in nineteen 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.280 fifty four everyone should be allowed to go to school together. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.480 Right, Absolutely, that's what the law said. But the reality 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.439 in Montgomery and almost everywhere in the South is that 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:05.000 some white people were still fighting to keep people apart, 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.760 and the schools black children are forced to attend are 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:12.080 almost always the least funded, with the poorest quality supplies, books, 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:12.880 and classrooms. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.199 How are those kids supposed to learn? 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:16.000 Luckily? 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.920 There's an organization called the N DOUBLEACP, the National Association 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.920 for the Advancement of Colored People. The branch here in 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.439 Montgomery was the first in all of Alabama and was 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.840 founded way back in nineteen thirteen. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:34.200 Cool I know about the NAACP. Their goal is to 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.640 educate and organize folks in the community to fight back 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.920 against segregation and other types of discrimination so that black 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.360 people can get the respect and opportunities they deserve. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.840 Precisely and recognizing the needs of black children in Montgomery, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:54.280 the n DOUBLEACP started a youth group and guests who 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.600 they put in charge of shaping young minds. 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:59.719 Rosa Parks. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.520 That's right, And what's really wild is that the thing 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:08.120 Rosa Parks is most famous for was actually done by 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:12.600 a fifteen year old girl from her youth group, Claudet Covin. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:13.920 Ha haa bingo. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.520 Wow, it's all coming together. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.120 But Lee, why didn't Quadette Covin get to be as 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:21.680 famous as Rosa Parks. 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.760 Well, even though she was the first to do it, 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.560 the movement knew that she was super young and had 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:29.880 other things going on. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:30.960 Like being the kid. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.760 So the movement chose to set up Rosa Parks to 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.800 be nationally recognized for protesting on a bus. 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.600 I truly had no idea about all that behind the 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.760 scenes stuff that made the civil rights movement possible. 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:45.400 Yeah. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:50.280 Even though Rosa Parks famous protests seems spontaneous, everything was 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.119 meticulously planned. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:53.080 Same with the. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.200 March to Montgomery. It took several tries and a ton 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:57.160 of organization. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.360 Thank you, Lee. That was increas udibly helpful. I think 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.840 I have enough information now for the song. Now will 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.920 you take us back to my top secret bunker. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:07.280 Of course. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.760 We're back, yes, Oh and I'm late for a recording session, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:18.240 but luckily I brought my skateboard, helmet and he pads 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:19.560 and am ready. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.800 To roll finally. Thank you. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.720 Okay, listeners, keep up, We are once again on the move, 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.920 right down instead of stairs. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.520 Oh yeah, still got it. And here we are. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.840 Oh look, the musicians are ready to go. Time to 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.320 make another epic shining song for the ages. And this 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:56.080 time Nemony's on the mic. Claudette, that's my name, Miss Alabama. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.560 Born and raised this Montgomery to be specific, hope you 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.440 don't mind beat on the risk. Six zero nine zero 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.760 five thirty nine the birth date of a future leader 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:09.160 civil rights activistic catalysts to be Montgomery bus boycott again with. 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.000 Me, Montgomery bus boycott. That is correct. A lot of 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:13.520 people don't know about the juicy tid bit. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.640 Couldn't be the face of the movement because I wasn't. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:16.880 Ridging because of my complexion. 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.320 I'm never in the press just thinking I was only fifteen, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.720 followed with my routine and a segregat of see. Years 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.760 after that occur went. I couldn't find work, and I 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.200 moved to New York and he got. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:25.760 In to nurse it. 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:26.400 It began with me. 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.720 Nine before Rosa. 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:36.480 It was Claude Gorvin, and it began women. Did you know? 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:40.440 Did you know I wouldn't give up my seat? Nine 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.000 months before Rosa it was Claude Gorman. 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.320 Let me start from the beginning. My dad left Mama's 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.280 wallet was sim mean. See, I was born Claude Dede Austin. 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.240 Then I went to live with my uncle and my aunt, 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.320 and that's how I got the name. Calvin had a 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.520 little sister e. I was the oh that lost her 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.800 Napoli yog. God only knows my pain. I was so 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:02.200 cyo logically strange looking to Washington High School. I started 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.520 going there in ninety fifty two. I was in the city, 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:06.560 a place I couldn't walk to, so ride in the 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.439 bus is what I had to do. It was nineteen 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:09.960 fifty five and they didn't give up my seed. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:10.600 They called the. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:11.919 Police and they arrested in me. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.320 But I had been learning about my ancestry and then 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.320 the youth count up with ina a sea paint, so 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.600 I said, I know my constritutional rights. There was an 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.040 empty rubberside and me, so this isn't right. Jimmy Crosses, 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.400 black skin said across from the white. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:23.800 We always got to be behind them. 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.520 And this sudden I'm like, put me off the Plus, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.800 I didn't fight work bus. I didn't feel fear because 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.320 I was young and tough. To put me in an 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.560 adult fell with no phone call. But my friends went 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:32.520 to find my mom. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:33.320 And it began with me. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:41.560 Nine before they was Clovin and it began with me. 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:43.240 Did you know? 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.960 Did you know I wouldn't give up my seat nine before. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:49.800 Vin. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:52.760 One year later, we had brought a versus Gail. 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.840 I was one of five plaintifs talking about how the 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:57.760 law had failed by the bust and we wasn't gonna 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.199 take a fighter record. They made the decision in the 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.640 Supreme Court. They made that decision that the bus deegregation. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.800 Was against the constitution and they ended it permanently. And 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:14.040 to begin with me nine fours it was Covid and 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.199 the beginning with me, did you know? Did you know 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:18.960 I wouldn't give. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:20.640 Up the sea nine? 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:32.560 That's my name? This Alabama borner, mind your mind zwer 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:42.600 o'clock time again with me? Oh, I almost forgot. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:47.680 The city of Montgomery, Alabama declared Mark second Claudet Covid day. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:51.359 WHOA. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.680 That was incredible And while. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.320 The circumstances couldn't be more different, it's really got me 0:18:58.440 --> 0:18:59.800 thinking about my own life. 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.480 Funny how history can inform the present. Holl listeners, Hey, Jena, 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:06.920 do you know where my mom is? 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.200 Look at Ah? 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.760 Of course the personal history room. Where else would she be? 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:14.360 Eh? 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.439 Yes, Tina, I know we have an interview lined up 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.680 in five minutes, but I've got to do something first. 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.160 Now, do you mind if I borrow your scooter? Thanks? 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.919 Tina? Right opposite of sticks. 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.160 Oh yeah, still good. 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:36.280 And here we are, Hi mom, Hey, sweetheart, what you're 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:36.840 doing in here? 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.000 Just looking at old pictures? Look at this one? 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.440 Oh it's me as a teenager. 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.200 Honey, that's a picture of me. 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:47.720 Wow, we really do look alike. 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.639 Huh strong jeans baby. 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.960 Anyway, MoMA, I wanted to ask more about you setting 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:54.040 up the security system. 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.359 I still can't believe you did that. 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:57.120 Well. 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.160 Get in a top secret bunker up and running, it's 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.200 no small tasks, and I was thrilled to be able 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.480 to pitch in. So I pulled some permits, got the 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.600 security system running, Hiatina and the other raccoons, and taught 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.320 them how to use all the sound equipment, just some 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:15.919 behind the scene details. 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.200 You low key paved the way for my dream. 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.360 You're not the first person in this family to love 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.399