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Speaker 1: Podcast arts now. Wow, Hello, welcome to Stradia Lab.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I have uppers coursing through my veins.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you are on that energetic kick that so rarely hits,

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Speaker 1: but when you do, I feel so alienated.

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Speaker 2: What was happening is we were already having a conversation

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Speaker 2: with our guests, not currently allowed to speak until we

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Speaker 2: bring him in. Yeah and yeah. I was like, I

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Speaker 2: was like, I was going, I've told upwards of fifteen

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Speaker 2: stories I would say in the past ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: Well, I learned more about you in the last ten

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Speaker 1: minutes than I have in years.

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Speaker 2: I'm having a podcast and I was literally like when

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Speaker 2: it was time to record, I was like, I was like, Sam,

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Speaker 2: just don't even let's just keep talking. Let's just keep talking.

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Speaker 2: You're like, well, we have to say, like podcast arts now,

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Speaker 2: we have to do our intro. I was like, no, Sam,

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Speaker 2: if we pump the brakes, I might not ever like

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Speaker 2: take off again.

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Speaker 1: See it's so helpful to hear that reasoning because when

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Speaker 1: you really let's just start, let's just go. I was

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Speaker 1: sort of like, has he lost his mind? No? I

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, we run a business here.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's what this this is. I feel like a

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Speaker 2: difference between me and you were like, as soon as

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Speaker 2: I get a taste of not following the rules, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm an anarchist. Oh you get drunk with I get

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Speaker 2: drunk with it, Okay, Whereas I think you it takes

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Speaker 2: much more for you to decide like, no, we're not

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Speaker 2: doing a traditional intro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I'll take a shot of anarchy. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but then I love to be able to go back

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Speaker 1: on the path.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I can't help it. I'm a rule follower. No,

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Speaker 2: And I think that's that's incredibly important. I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: I already talked about Melissa Ethridge just.

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Speaker 1: For people that weren't able to hear. Yeah, we covered

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Speaker 1: Melissa Ethridge, Taylor Swift. We won't tell you how we felt.

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Speaker 2: And in fact, we're bleeping her. We're bleeping that name

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Speaker 2: that you, and we're blurring my mouth and we're blurring

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Speaker 2: her mouth. And actually someone's coming to arrest us and

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Speaker 2: they are in head to do eras tour merch. No, okay,

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Speaker 2: but we're not.

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Speaker 1: We're not unless no no, no, no no, because we

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Speaker 1: didn't say anything.

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Speaker 2: We didn't say anything, and I've never have said anything.

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Speaker 1: Never had an opinion in my life, and why would

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Speaker 1: I start?

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Speaker 2: Not going to start now?

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Speaker 1: We talked about our flop vacations.

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Speaker 2: Our flop vacations. Well, use were saying that you've sort

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Speaker 2: of had a flop summer. Yes, the summer a topic

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Speaker 1: And I actually think it could be summer is actually

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Speaker 1: today there is a fall breeze, a distinct fall breeze

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Speaker 1: in the air, and it's freaking me out because I

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Speaker 1: have not I've been chasing that summer feeling for months now.

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Speaker 1: I spent thousands of dollars trying to get that summer feeling,

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Speaker 1: and it just escapes me. I don't know what body

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Speaker 1: to feel like blissful and summer fun.

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Speaker 2: I do think you are such a summer queen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that like you have exhausted the possibilities of summer and

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Speaker 2: now we need to like get you skydiving or something like,

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Speaker 2: we need to get you doing extreme sports because it

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Speaker 2: doesn't hit anymore for you.

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Speaker 1: My summer tolerance has gone too high. Yes, I have

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Speaker 1: literally done too much summer.

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Speaker 2: It's like when people are like, oh, marijuana is a

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Speaker 2: gateway drug. Next thing, you know, you know whatever, that's

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Speaker 2: like you and I don't even know what you're You're

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Speaker 2: gonna be in one of those submarines that explodes in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the ocean.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, I listened to the Daily about that

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Speaker 1: submarine and I was like, damn, that sounds kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think we actually need to pump the

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Speaker 2: brakes before you take it too far.

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Speaker 1: I just need to get some summer fun. I'm actually

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Speaker 1: so desperate that I am sorry to both of my parents,

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Speaker 1: who are lovely people. I am looking forward to visiting

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Speaker 1: them so hard because they like live and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's my last shot to feel summer.

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Speaker 2: But I'm sorry to say this to you, but I'm like, listen,

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Speaker 2: if you haven't gotten what you need from your multiple

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Speaker 2: gay vacations, I simply highly doubt it's gonna happen when

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Speaker 2: you're with your parents on a lake.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's like, but the gay vacations, they're almost like

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Speaker 1: telling me to have fun too much. Maybe what I

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Speaker 1: will teach me like be happy for what you have

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Speaker 1: and maybe to like simplif because when I'm on a

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Speaker 2: Harm reduction model. Yeah, rather than abstent and sold. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, not a perfect metaphor.

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Speaker 1: But no, well, gay vacation is also like, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's so many things. You have to be having fun

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Speaker 1: in the sun. You also have to be like hooking

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Speaker 1: up or making out. You also have to be like

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Speaker 1: looking hot. You also have to be like getting drunk

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Speaker 1: in the right way. And you also there's all these

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Speaker 1: things to do, there's all these marks to hit.

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Speaker 2: You gotta lower your expectation.

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Speaker 1: You got a lower and when you're with your parents

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Speaker 1: on a lake, it's sort of like, Okay, I know

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Speaker 1: what this is, and I know what how much fun

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Speaker 1: I will have, And I actually think it's a bar

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Speaker 2: I have a prediction for you. What. So you hate

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Speaker 2: fall because to you it symbolizes death. It simplizes death.

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Speaker 2: The leaves are dying, we're celebrating and as are traditional

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Speaker 2: American values. Of course, So I think that your lowered

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Speaker 2: expectations with fall are going to lead to you having

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Speaker 2: a really good fall. I think that's what's gonna happen,

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Speaker 2: is I bet you? I'm predicting some sort of last

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Speaker 2: minute upstate trip I think it's you and it's three

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Speaker 2: to four other people, and you're going to have a

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Speaker 2: better time than you did on Fire Island, at the

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Speaker 2: gay watering Hole, at an in the vacation we went

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Speaker 2: on together. I think it's going to be big. I

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Speaker 2: unfortunately think you're right.

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Speaker 1: And I think the weirdest part is that three weeks

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Speaker 1: till fall, and it was like, what is this growth?

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Speaker 1: Is this regression? It's it's a direction. I just don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's a positive or negative direction. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: definitely again a loss my former self, the summer me.

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Speaker 1: But maybe it's a loss I need to embrace.

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Speaker 2: I really think that in three months we will be talking.

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Speaker 2: You'll be a brand new person. You will you will be.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a new it's a new era, and

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Speaker 2: I actually am sort of scared because I'm used to

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Speaker 2: you one way and I think you're going to be

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Speaker 2: a different way. Yeah, it's darkest before the dawn. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think it might be time to remove

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Speaker 2: the ball and gag from our guesses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if assistant could come in and ungag him, it's.

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Speaker 2: Actually time, He's I think the tears forming in his eyes,

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Speaker 2: it is about time we let him speak. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: please give it up for Cody Rakesby. What is up?

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Speaker 1: Hi?

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Speaker 2: Girl? Is how we doing good?

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Speaker 1: How did it feel to be you know, part of

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Speaker 1: the conversation and then shut out so violently A.

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Speaker 3: Little turned on, especially with the ball and gag.

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Speaker 2: Yeah of it all?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I just I My inner child was just like,

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Speaker 3: let me out, let me out, let me out.

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Speaker 2: So I'm a talkative girl. How do you feel about fall?

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Speaker 2: I also?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that was gonna say. It always represents a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a death to me. I always have

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Speaker 3: that like back to school feeling where I feel like

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Speaker 3: all the fun is ending and now I have.

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Speaker 2: To be serious.

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Speaker 3: And that is very much how my fall is going

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Speaker 3: to be. Can I go ahead and shamelessly plug my

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Speaker 3: book already please?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So specifically why I feel that way is because my

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Speaker 3: book comes out xoxo Cody. An Opinionated Homosexuals Guide to self, love,

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Speaker 3: Relationships and Tactful Pettiness.

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Speaker 2: Wow, thank you.

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Speaker 3: On September twelfth, Wow, whoa exactly?

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Speaker 2: That's what's a close one?

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Speaker 3: I know, And we had to make sure we didn't

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Speaker 3: be very specific with the date.

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Speaker 2: Let's put it one day, yeah, yep, yep.

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Speaker 3: And so I have that feeling of like fall is coming,

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Speaker 3: like I'm already like starting to say goodbye to summer

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Speaker 3: and I'm not ready for it, and uh, it always

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Speaker 2: Of a death. But can I say one thing though, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I feel like you are almost being complicit in the

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Speaker 2: back to school spirit by writing a literally comes out

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Speaker 2: in the fall, because you're like, well, just in time

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Speaker 2: for classes. The kids need to purchase it on their

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Speaker 2: back to required reading they say number two pencils and yes,

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Speaker 2: exactly right next to the book marks as well. If

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Speaker 2: you want to be a summer girl, then maybe rather

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Speaker 2: than releasing a book, released a single, a dance single

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Speaker 2: yeah for the club around May fifteenth, and then it

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Speaker 2: then when I first SAIDs it falls off. Yes. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, the way that pud put On had a stranglehold

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Speaker 2: I think that gave us too much confident and I

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Speaker 2: think that's where we went wrong. It's like we were

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Speaker 2: like padam Banamas here it is time like everyone will

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Speaker 2: have rights within a matter of seven days. And then

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Speaker 2: when that it was liked well, and it was so

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Speaker 2: nice that.

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Speaker 1: I love when everyone can agree. I yes, I think

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Speaker 1: disagreement is healthy, of course, but when we all come

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Speaker 1: together and say we love this song, I say, you know,

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Speaker 1: it really is a gay community.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have an idea for you, Cody was. I

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Speaker 2: think maybe one way you could sort of split the difference.

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Speaker 2: Do an audiobook that has a dance track.

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Speaker 3: It's like an audiobook when you're auto tuned and you're like,

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Speaker 3: I grew up and oh my gosh, wait, I was

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Speaker 3: just like reminiscing on a TikTok. Do you remember the

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Speaker 3: Hide Your Kids, Hid your Wife. I just had a

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Speaker 3: moment with you, and I think it's it's essentially the

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Speaker 3: same thing. Just throw some audio tune on it and

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Speaker 3: I'll have a YouTube sensation.

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Speaker 2: Well there you go, there you go. It's that easy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Maybe so, and then someone will sample it. I hope

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Speaker 2: so maybe uh Addison.

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Speaker 1: Ray, Oh, very topical, and two years it'll be sort

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Speaker 1: of Drag Race season forty seven Andrisby the musical.

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Speaker 2: his radio liab era of war. Yeah. I went on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the two girls get in a fight because they

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Speaker 1: want one wants to do the summer cody and one it.

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Speaker 2: Wants to do the fall cody.

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Speaker 3: And then they have to audition and one bombs it and.

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Speaker 1: We know how that goes, and we know all that

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Speaker 2: If only put me in there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. You know what I learned today

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Speaker 2: what people are doxing producers of reality shows when they

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Speaker 3: But what do you mean docks Like give me the terminology,

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Speaker 3: like like canceling them.

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Speaker 2: Like, uh, you know. Doxing, I feel like is like

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Speaker 2: so it'll be like it'll be like this season of

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean when Laurence Cheney lost to Bimini Bomboo Lash,

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Speaker 1: like I wish I knew someone's home address, right wow?

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Speaker 1: So so whoever just did the latest season of All Stars?

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Speaker 1: That producer has a security detail at this point, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, higher, it's more intense than Joe Biden, I would hope.

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Speaker 2: So they really do need the protection. I'm always like,

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Speaker 2: I think the best thing to do is to go

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Speaker 2: their life, Like send a little bag of poo to

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Speaker 2: the CEO's house, don't talks. Don't talks an associate producer

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Speaker 2: that's like non union and not making enough money, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think that's such a beautiful worker.

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Speaker 2: customer service representatives or barista's. They could just be rooted

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Speaker 1: You also should be able to like, like, we as citizens,

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Speaker 1: we vote to send one bag of poo to the CEO,

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Speaker 1: because it's like, I don't want them to get like

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Speaker 1: does swift strong action. Why didn't like that perfectly packaged

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Speaker 2: That would be so helpful. I think the strikes would

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Speaker 2: be over fair.

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Speaker 1: Possibly possibly he would be like, oh well I didn't

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Speaker 2: Now I will create change. Yeah, it's like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: you guys can literally have whatever. I was like, what

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Speaker 1: So that would be really amazing, amazing.

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Speaker 2: I love that, Cody. If you could deliver a bag

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Speaker 2: of pooh anyone's house, who would it be?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that is a tough question. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's a little hateful, Okay, is it on Fire. You

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Speaker 3: Arson does have a few more years on it. You

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Speaker 2: On Ubera. There's an addition.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit more, but it's kind of worth

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you're worried about alienating people because your book

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Speaker 2: you you are literally running for office and you're being

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Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton. Wow, how coming for me? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Say something negative?

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Speaker 3: Now, Oh, let's go with Britney Spears soon to be

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a very political answer, you know what. We

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Speaker 3: That because you know, he's trying to get her money. Yes, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Scooter braun thank you. Something's going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something's up.

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Speaker 3: Over A lot of people are dropping Scooter braun is,

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Speaker 3: including Adena Menzel. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I saw that, and you know what I want to

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Speaker 2: Let's go into that. Actually, actually this is fun.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I see a headline with Adena Menzel, I at

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Speaker 2: It it always seems like a Twitter game making a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, actually just talking about this, like someone needs to

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Speaker 1: The dance music, the dance music is not the laying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that felt comedic.

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Speaker 3: Yes, God bless and God bless, God bless. I've seen

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm so team Adina with all of this.

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Speaker 2: love about Adina is do you remember this night? We

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Speaker 2: It was the night that she was guest hosting, guest

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Speaker 2: The episode was airing that night. I learned from a

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Speaker 2: And sure enough, she did find that bar and performed

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Speaker 3: So this wasn't the three dollars bill performances. She just

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Speaker 2: I just don't have the time. Well, you have a

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Speaker 1: Very maybe yeah, maybe maybe you could be a book slash,

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Speaker 1: I was impressed by that little Edina moment. I was

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Speaker 2: I would disagree. I would disagree.

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Speaker 3: dance track is not hitting, And then I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's really expanding your market. And uh, the tiktoks are

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Speaker 2: Well, you are pointing to I think something very important,

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Speaker 2: posting asagrams. Yeah, like if someone just leaves for two,

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Speaker 3: She was she was silent, but someone needs to silence.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes, in the way that like I feel

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Speaker 3: What I absolutely despise is like, come back here and

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Speaker 3: Let's just give me the post. Just give me, just

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Speaker 3: tell me what's happening. I don't need the teesser. I'm

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Speaker 2: So I I yes, that's my It's of content right

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Speaker 2: now is basically like advertisements for announcements that are going

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Speaker 1: The worst part is I see that and I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 2: We should be like something big is coming. We absolutely

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Speaker 2: like repost it and be like, can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I think maybe my scent line.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not it. And by the way, if a

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Speaker 2: with us, it'll be very into that. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 2: these basics. I know. Well that's RuPaul at the beginning

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Speaker 2: of a new season of Drag Race, just the sweet suit.

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Speaker 2: I need to see these. Should we do our first segment?

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Speaker 1: I think we should do our first segment, Cody. Our

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Speaker 1: first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,

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Speaker 1: we will ask you a series of rapid fire questions

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Speaker 1: It's basically this thing or this other thing, and the

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Speaker 2: Oh it will not make any sense and you will

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Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable. Okay, So this or that format. That's a question,

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Speaker 2: Cody rigsby when they go low, we go high, or

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Speaker 2: when I say go, you say red SOX. My god,

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Speaker 2: I hate both of them, you know.

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Speaker 3: In support of my fellow authors, I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 3: Michelle Obama so much in common.

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Speaker 2: With not so much in common. We both wrote a book.

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Speaker 2: Your title was becoming Yeah, but b E C M

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Speaker 2: M I N G. Cody rikes me be.

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Speaker 1: Coming coming on my face. Okay, Cody showing off your

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Speaker 1: renoir or telling how you got these scars.

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Speaker 2: That's good. Renir asked the question.

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Speaker 1: The fact that you caught itself also a really bating question,

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Speaker 1: because we both want to seem smart.

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Speaker 3: You guys are definitely much more intellectual than me from

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Speaker 3: using these large words of vocabulary. The second one, okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: Cody questions storming the capital with your girls or adorning

439
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 3: your claviical with beautiful pearls. Oh, adjoining my clasical with

440
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 3: beautiful pearl adorning things.

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00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 2: Adorning is very Cody.

442
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: Yes, adorning is set the full Okay, Cody being from

443
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: Michigan or being called a bitch again, being called.

444
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 2: A bitch again?

445
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Cody never been in Michigan buying as a gift

446
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 3: or being an Ingreux and feeling a drift. Oh my god,

447
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 3: I love I love Angeenews. So I would say being

448
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 3: an ingree you know, there's so and sometimes I do

449
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 3: feel like an ingenue.

450
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: I think of my story coming to.

451
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 3: New York at a very young age, finding my way

452
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: being discovered.

453
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 2: Actually, read more about that and thank you so much.

454
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 2: That's how you be. That's how you promote a book.

455
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 2: Babyd be coming.

456
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 3: Someone just asked me what my second the second title

457
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: my book should be, and this we've already got here

458
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: to write that down.

459
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: Any graphic designers listening, make that cover. Yeah, use your imagination, Okay,

460
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: Cody on Twitter, I'm sure the medium is the message

461
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: or the medium is a little small, but it'll stretch.

462
00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 2: The medium is a little small, but it will stretch. Genius, Okay, Cody.

463
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: And we just talked about that on Benja Japarrol. We

464
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: talked about it before you took off the bond.

465
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chaparil, Yes, okay, Cody. Being a girl dad or

466
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: watch that Queen twirl gag being a girl dad. Shocking

467
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: that you would choose them. No, I get it.

468
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: I see it, you know, you know, we rank Waite

469
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: softens their heart and makes them, you know, in touch

470
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: with their feminine side.

471
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 2: It changes them.

472
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: They see women not only as objects, you know, or

473
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 3: they're like no one's going on, or they.

474
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 2: Like lean harder and they buy more guns.

475
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, protect, yeah, yeah, it's sort of it's like the

476
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 3: uber eats ad gun when it's a girl.

477
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: Cody, your feelings are valid or not in front of

478
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: my salad?

479
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 3: Hold up, this is not a question. My salad is

480
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: not straight culture.

481
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: We did not you say what you said it was straight.

482
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 2: I was going straight straight shooters. Well it's like you're

483
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: trying to continuum.

484
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 3: Okay, but I see I took that as like a

485
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: straight person trying to appropriate gay culture and.

486
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: Say it in that type of what not in front

487
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: of my salad. That was a straight woman saying not

488
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: fair fair And by the way, if you're not homophobic,

489
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: you should want gay guys to have sex. And thank you,

490
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: thank you. I'm not in front of myself. Wow, like

491
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: really icon it really is like really really iconic. We

492
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: rank all our guest performance on a scale of zero

493
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: to one thousand. Doves.

494
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: Oh, I think like nine hundred and seventy two.

495
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: So much guys giving XO X one thousand. You keep plugging,

496
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: you bitch.

497
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna stop, not gonna stop you.

498
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah no, there was just you know, I have to say.

499
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: You know, our podcast changes of course based on the guests,

500
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 1: and right now we are both being so like talk showy,

501
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: but in a way that I actually think is fun.

502
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: Like we're almost like, oh, I'm ready to teach a

503
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: Peloton class tomorrow.

504
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I feel like we're in front of a life

505
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: studio audience. I feel like like who knows who's coming

506
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: out next. It's all very like it's juicy, there's something

507
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: to it.

508
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, if you were ever to have Adina on, we'd

509
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: be belting Dina for everyone listening without the visuals. Cody

510
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: looks at his assistant every time because we.

511
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: Have inside jokes and we were literally just talking about

512
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: this is a hot topic, being like is it okay?

513
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: No, she's an investor in No, no.

514
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: No she's not, but if she'd like to, oh yeah.

515
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: I really do like the dynamic that almost your assistants

516
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: is sort of zapping you.

517
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: Whenever you're saying, she's trying to protect me.

518
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: That's why we couldn't talk about that one topic that

519
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: we're not going to talk about, that we're not talking

520
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 3: about because I'm no longer taking the bait. Actually, my

521
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: recent opinion that I'm going on on tired and this

522
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: is very wholesome, is that we don't love pepper enough

523
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: as much as we love salt.

524
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: That's a really good point. Actually, that's actually.

525
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: Beautiful, Like we don't we don't give pepper the amount

526
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: of love that we give salt salts everywhere we put

527
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: it on there, but like really pepper does a hard

528
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 3: job of like really releasing the flavor and really makes

529
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: specific things, especially salads, really tasty, very whole.

530
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Speaker 2: Okay, Salt and pepper talk about like the only good

531
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: heterosexual binary. Like I'm like some Pepper are the only

532
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: good straight couple. They each bring something to the table,

533
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: they have an egalitarian relationship. We need both of them.

534
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: By the way, they don't have kids. They're they're like

535
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: sort of like an old or sophisticated couple. When's a

536
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: player it one's a novelist, yes.

537
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: Yes, But can I share with you something is that

538
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: I did see this on TikTok that at a certain

539
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 3: point in American history there was a third condiment and

540
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: they don't know what it was. There was a place

541
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Speaker 3: with on the table for the condiment tray, and there

542
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: was a third option and they cannot figure out what

543
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Speaker 3: it was.

544
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: So wow, they it.

545
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 3: Was you know, it was erasure of the third condom. Yeah,

546
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: saying that it was bind it was, and that's why

547
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 3: you are the problem exactly.

548
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Speaker 1: Well, now, in this narrative of Salt and Pepper and

549
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: their sort of playwright novelist lifestyle, I'm like they had.

550
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: A third, had a third. They were a child a third.

551
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: It was a third when they were wild, because it

552
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: was a seventy exactly.

553
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: But then they grew up and they both were like, okay,

554
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: we're like on the New York Times. Yeah, so now

555
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: we have to get rid of this third.

556
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Speaker 1: Actually, the third was like doing a lot of the

557
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: creative work and they were getting to credit.

558
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, and you know what the third is

559
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: doing now, toiling away in a non tenure track position

560
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: at a midwestern university.

561
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: And it all just really started with Hey, we saw

562
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Speaker 3: you cross the bar and we thought you were cool.

563
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Speaker 2: You know.

564
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so sad, and that third like has tried

565
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: to go to the press but people just can't break

566
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Speaker 1: them islands.

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Speaker 2: People cannot break them. Salt and pepper. Yeah, do you

568
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: think salt of salt and pepper, which one's the man

569
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Speaker 2: and which one's a woman? I feel like this is hard.

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00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: This is I think salt is the main and pepper

571
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: is the woman.

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00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: Oh M, do you say that because salt is more hegemonic?

573
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: Like it's sort of like I said that salt doesn't

574
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: have to prove itself because the world we live in

575
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: a salt world. Salt is like flatter salt is.

576
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Speaker 3: Someone didn't watch the Barbie movie exactly.

577
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: I think it's both. It's that salt is flatter and

578
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 2: less interesting and also more popular. Yea pepper is more

579
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: interesting the ingreen you will.

580
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: Even like the words having to work in my whole

581
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: narrative is like pepper has to work so much harder.

582
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: They have to bring it out.

583
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: In a very long and you have to work for

584
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: you know, to twist the top to get it. And

585
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: they have to ask you if you want pepper, and

586
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: no one's ever asking if you want salt.

587
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: It's given. That is that is such a good point.

588
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: You never get, like a bolones and someone comes in,

589
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: it's like salt. Yeah. And by the way, you know

590
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: what's gay when salt is cracked when you're salt. It's

591
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: when it's actually a salt. Cristy Kimala and salt think

592
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: of was a gay man.

593
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: I also salt is like shoved down my throat too much,

594
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: like people love to put salt on stuff.

595
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I didn't ask for this much salt.

596
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: I actually I want so much salt down my throat.

597
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: So I want it's hand bisexual. Wow, I think we

598
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: need to get into the topic. Wonderful. We would love

599
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: to know the topic. So, Cody, what is your straight

600
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: topic and why do you think it's straight?

601
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: My topic today is waiting for marriage, and it's just

602
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: innately heterosexual. They're never in the history of Gatum has

603
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: anyone said, hey, I'm not gonna put it in your

604
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: butt because I'm gonna.

605
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: Wait for marriage.

606
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: Although David maybe Red White and Blue definitely tried to

607
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: Red White and Blue.

608
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: I did try to give that narrative, try how it

609
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: was actually was they were that was innovative about it

610
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: is they were like, what if gay guys wanted to

611
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: wait until marriage? Exactly? What if gay guys were Christians?

612
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: It was the gay Twilight, Yes, yeah, totally, totally, the vampires,

613
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: it was the royal family, yes exactly.

614
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Was there ever a point in your life where you

615
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: were like a child that maybe and like talking about

616
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: sex and being like I'm gonna wait till marriage.

617
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not.

618
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: My mother, Cindy Rigsby said to me like, have you know,

619
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: never get married until you're thirty, have sex, wear a condom,

620
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: and don't get anybody pregnant, and wow, she sounds like

621
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: white and royal exactly, exactly, very progressive.

622
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Speaker 2: One time, when I was in college, I told my

623
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: mom I knew someone that was waiting until marriage and

624
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: the way she turned into like a high school bully,

625
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: which she was like what.

626
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, Okay, No, I feel like I

627
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: definitely because I was like trying to be the best

628
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: boy on earth.

629
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Speaker 2: And it was also very and I was like, did

630
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: you grow up very religious? No, just sort of what's

631
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: fascinating about you is that it was really you're the

632
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: rule follower.

633
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Earlier I love rules and so so I think I

634
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 1: was sort of like, you know, what if that's what?

635
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: Because to me that was like getting an a in.

636
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: Like morality, like where I was just like, I bet

637
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: I'd be a better person if I said that. Yeah,

638
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, Well, like I remember being

639
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: in health class when I was like, you know, eleven

640
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: or something and be like, well, I'm gonna get married

641
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: at twenty seven.

642
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: Late, and especially to be waiting for it because I'm responsible.

643
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: I also I thought sex was so bad that I

644
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: was like, well, yeah, I'm not gonna want that.

645
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you did it? Because you were like,

646
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: sex with a woman does not appeal to you. So

647
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: it's actually sort of works if you pretend that there.

648
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: Is definitely wait, you know, I bet there was something

649
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: in there for that, but it's hard to tell. Now.

650
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe gays will rebrand waiting until marriage is like

651
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 2: a kink thing. Oh definitely definitely that.

652
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: I see that, and that's the direction we would take, exactly. Chastity,

653
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: chastity belt and everything, lock locker up.

654
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: So, Cody, what is your experience with waiting until marriage?

655
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: You were not raised that way? Your mom was very progressive.

656
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: I I did, literally I do grow up in Greensboro,

657
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: North Carolina, very I did, and at a point I

658
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: did go to like a Baptist church for like three

659
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: years write about it in the book, Well, I can't

660
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: wait to read it. Yeah, you know, so some of

661
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: that was like doctrinated. Yeah, there was definitely people in there.

662
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: And I you know, I did have a middle school

663
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: phase where I had this love and.

664
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: I read about the book. I'm just gonna keep.

665
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: Saying that where I had a religious kind of like

666
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: family who kind of took me under their wings, and

667
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: so I hung out with them a lot, went to

668
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: youth group all that, and a lot of them were

669
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: in that very like I think one of them got

670
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: married at like eighteen so that she could be waiting

671
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: till marriage. And I feel like a lot of people,

672
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: especially religious people.

673
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: Do that.

674
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: They're like, Okay, I'm waiting till marriage, but I'm also

675
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: going to get married before I can have legally a drink.

676
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. Yeah.

677
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: One thing that I love about people that are waiting

678
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: until marriage is the way that they will go around

679
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: the rules and do likeiest kinkiest little freaks. Yes, because

680
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I'll suck and I'll lick and all,

681
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: and it's like you and it's like, okay, you are

682
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: way worse than me, but absolutely just just go for it.

683
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, yeah, of course we've been having

684
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: anal for years. But now, like, but that didn't count

685
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: because that's not sacredy.

686
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: I was going to go in a little bit of

687
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: a different a different route, Okay, when when I was

688
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: on Dancing with Stars, A lot of the professional You're

689
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: right about that in the book, not this particular part,

690
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: but the Dancing with the Stars is in there. A

691
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: lot of the professional dancers are from Utah, and so

692
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: a lot of them are Mormon, and so they they

693
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: told me about soaking, which is essentially just dry humping.

694
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: Right until complete, Oh until complete. Oh.

695
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: I thought soaking was when you put it in and

696
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: just don't hump.

697
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: You put it in for like a moment and.

698
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: Sort of like chill there in you mean penetration, but

699
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: then like a hyman would break. Okay, now I'm gonna

700
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: have then that that seems to break the rules. I

701
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: feel like soaking is more like dry humping until you

702
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: have into everything we're saying now completion.

703
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm sorry, but I'm right.

704
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: Is a sexual practice of inserting the penis into the

705
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: vagina but not subsequently thrusting, reportedly used by some members

706
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: of the church Faturday Saints.

707
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: Well, see that's kinky because that's edging. Basically, it's like

708
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: a form of edging. It's like we're getting as quick

709
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: and that seems like someone's getting could get pregnant. I

710
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: don't think prematurely.

711
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think these boys who have had sex are

712
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: not nutting nutting the one second vagina.

713
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: Let's see one billboard Kelly Clarkson, thank you, Okay, yeah,

714
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: I do you think it's very straight culture to make

715
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: up an arbitrary rule and then become absolutely insane trying

716
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: to go around it.

717
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it's just like just break the rule.

718
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: Just yeah, it's fine, just break the rule. You'll actually

719
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: it'll actually be less harmful for you in the long term.

720
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: Harm reduction, harm reduction exactly. I do think the idea

721
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: of the promise ring is fun though, well, once again kink,

722
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: that's literal chest. It's a literal chest and ring.

723
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: Do you remember when Jordan Sparks do you know what

724
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say?

725
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: So?

726
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: Russell Brand was hosting the I Want to Say VMA's

727
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: and he made a joke about the Jonas brothers having

728
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: promised rings, and then Jordan's Sparks got up full of

729
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: energy and was like, and by the way, just because

730
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: some of us don't like to be whores doesn't mean

731
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: we need to be humiliated by Russell brand. Wow, And

732
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 2: she said, no, I don't. I don't remember the exact wording.

733
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm sort of giving it a spice, adding a little

734
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: bit of papa.

735
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 3: I don't think that was recorded. No, it's okay, it's okay.

736
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: They were talking about paprika to catch everyone a paprika

737
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: may or may not have been the third spice in

738
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 3: addition to salt and pepper.

739
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: It was just it's not the third spice, but we

740
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: did mention it as in.

741
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: Our big issue or my big issru with afrika is

742
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: that it has such like spicy name and such a

743
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: spicy color that you would think it's spicier. Basically, it

744
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: wants to be cayenne, but it's not. It's not.

745
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: She's just there, she's just showing off. Yeah, no substance,

746
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: just flair.

747
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is a good name for but

748
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: not yours. Of course, I would never I would never

749
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: suggest someone should do no substance, all flair. Maybe that

750
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: is good, maybe taking purity rings.

751
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: Okay, the thing is okay, it's the straightest part is

752
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: obvious that there is, like there's only one type of sex.

753
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: There's like sex is penis and vagina. And but like

754
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: because gay guys, even if they wanted to wait till marriage,

755
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: they'd be there for making up their own new only

756
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: definition of sex because like a gay guy couldn't even

757
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: wait till marriage because they have to be like, well,

758
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: we're anal anal.

759
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: Is because to some of the people who are waiting,

760
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: that doesn't count.

761
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: It doesn't count. Yeah, they're like no fisting.

762
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: Until oh yeah we go you know, yeah, I'm Christians.

763
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the defen like defining sex as pinovaginal obviously

764
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: very straight and then sort of forming your entire life

765
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: around that definition. And then the attention to purity, I

766
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: think is really what's at the core of it. I

767
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: mean purity culture, purity culture, and you know, it's fascinating.

768
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: We didn't have to be of a certain way.

769
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: The thing is we keep progressing past it, and then

770
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: yet like stuff keeps coming back into culture, like now

771
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: everyone being like what's your body count? I keep saying

772
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: things about body counts, and I'm like when did this

773
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: come back? Like why is this coming back?

774
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: But do you know your body?

775
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: No idea and also talk about a straight like I

776
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: don't think a gig I could.

777
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: Even still getting after a certain point. Just like there's

778
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: a formula in the book.

779
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: If you want to learn your eight.

780
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: It's it literally, isn't there. Me and my friend Brian

781
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: I have talked about it. How like there's a gay

782
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: formula to it. Please can you share a little bit.

783
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, Okay, when you're single, it's like

784
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: one per week, and then you subtract the years that

785
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: you're in a monogamous relationship, and then when you're in

786
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: an open relationship, it's like one per month, and then

787
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: like you go into a multiplier for every non floppy

788
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 3: summer correct, you know, you go into a three times

789
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: multiplier for the summer pride. Every pride that you that

790
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: you've visited, you probably add four.

791
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: You know. I have a great title for your next book,

792
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 2: A Beautiful Mind. Yeah, because I see you with those

793
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: equations and the parent board.

794
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, that's that's a formula. Horrible, Like

795
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: what is like you know what a sauna jerk count as? Oh,

796
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: would you put.

797
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: That on a body count? I guess I don't know

798
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 2: what are the rules? Yeah, No, you're so far from

799
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: Christianity that you that everything counts a sex.

800
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: If no, Yeah, if I shake someone saying and it's

801
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 1: firm enough that sex.

802
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you do a little French kiss on both cheeks,

803
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: I can't go to I cannot go to Europe. Oh yeah,

804
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: when you go to Europe your body count.

805
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: Talk about a multiplier, talk about I eat a pasta

806
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: that's too out today, that's one.

807
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: W Yeah. Wow, okay, I'm you know, I'm struggling with

808
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: this topic is because I feel like it has always

809
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: been so foreign to me, Like I almost wish it

810
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: was part of my past. Like I I wish I

811
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: had ever had a conversation with someone that was genuinely

812
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: and earnestly trying to convince me that it is correct

813
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: to wait until marriage. Have you ever had someone like

814
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 2: that in your life? No? Wow, but you have sort

815
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: of in.

816
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: Your not not I mean like I get yeah, I guess, yeah,

817
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: like those few people. But I'm so far removed from it,

818
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: and I definitely think that person has now gotten a

819
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: divorce and like two kids, and of course you know,

820
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: but you know, she's eighteen in doctrinated whatever yeah, rough.

821
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: I think it was more just like in the culture

822
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: so much like even in like absence like sex education. Well,

823
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: and like Britney Spears is like I'm a virgin, I'm

824
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: a urgent, right, And it was like thing that seemed

825
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: very important in this.

826
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: Is such an American thing, where like in other countries,

827
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: a pop star and artist inherently sexual inherently sort of

828
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: like you know, over sexualized. And then well, I guess

829
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: Britney's res altso over sexualist. But my point, it's a

830
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: very American thing for pop stars and people in the

831
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: public eye'd be like, by the way, I'm a virgin

832
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: in the nineties, in the early.

833
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I feel like that was the most way.

834
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: That was what made me feel on topic, did Jessica

835
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: Simpson quote unquote wait till marriage?

836
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 2: Wasn't that the thing? Or was that theory? Theory?

837
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: Like that was the that was the upfront story, right, Yeah.

838
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: Definitely, Jessica Simpson. Definitely, Brittany went through that phase. I'm like, definitely.

839
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: The Jonas Brothers was like a big it was a

840
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: big thing. I think what the Jonahs brothers is they

841
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: actually only have sex with each other around.

842
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they come up with these weird rules

843
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: and they talk about it publicly in their book.

844
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: In their book, they co collaborated on be Coming.

845
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: Be Coming on each other. Yeah, yeah, it's close to

846
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: your title.

847
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

848
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: But I don't think they stole it or anything.

849
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: Maybe the what's the not cute ones name? Oh I

850
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: don't know, but Nick, Joe Wren, Kevin Kevin and I

851
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: knew the whole time.

852
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: The whole time. I just didn't want to say it.

853
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: Respective he might have waited until marriage.

854
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: His wife is hot.

855
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: His wife is hot, and they have kids, and they

856
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 3: live in like the Jersey and they like the Jersey shore,

857
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 3: and they've got money and they had a reality show.

858
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: Oh it's more than most of us can say. True.

859
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: Maybe he did something right. And then there's the fourth one.

860
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, bonus Jonahs.

861
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: Chris fuck, I can't read her lips. Jeremiah, Jeremiah, Jeremi Jonas.

862
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, did you ever have a moment? I just

863
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get I'm trying to get into a

864
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: personal space.

865
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: I want tears.

866
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: Oh I'm kidding, Virginity, were you ever like, was there

867
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: every where you lie in tears? Whatever lost You're crying,

868
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: You're crying. It's okay, there's two shoes. Did you ever like,

869
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: were you ever like I'm gonna lose my virginity? Like,

870
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: was there ever a moment where you're like, I did it?

871
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 3: I lost my virgin Oh my god, I remember that, yes,

872
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: like yes and not no. No, I remember losing my

873
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: virginity and just being like okay, like I was like

874
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 3: that wasn't that great? I can't wait next time? Yeah,

875
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: And there was a long span between penetration one and penetration.

876
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: You do consider virginity to be a penetration, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

877
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: for sure. You know, it's funny. I have such a

878
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: distinct memory of my first no.

879
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: Yes, actually penetrated. Oh I don't remember, or penetrating. Okay,

880
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: so I actually.

881
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 2: Do not remember. But the first time I had oral sex,

882
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: I'll say, and I distinctly remember being like being like,

883
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: it's happening, it's happening, it's happening, it's happening.

884
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 3: That's how we felt about the first kiss, first gay kiss,

885
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: first gay kiss.

886
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: Very magical. Yeah, I don't remember. The first first was

887
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: in a sort of like game scenario, like like a

888
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: boy boy make out. Yeah, I guess it would have

889
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: been with the same person that I then that's right, Blue,

890
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 2: I thought you were a virgin and honestly I remember

891
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: the latter part more than that. Wow, but yeah there

892
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: was I think like I let go of that. Yeah. Yeah,

893
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't like yeah, well there's not the same splash.

894
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: It's the same when you're straight. There's like such a

895
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: clear like I've lost my opportunity.

896
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: Yes, also a straight Okay, here's the thing, And this

897
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: is actually the issue with Red White and Royal Blue.

898
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: Sex in a straight context is almost like based on

899
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: pop culture and movies, inherently romantic and inherently like a

900
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: ballad comes on. Yeah, but sex and the gay context

901
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: is not defined by that, like it can be. But

902
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: it really like, if anything I think of sex in

903
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: the gate context is more like yeah, like we're party.

904
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: And that's why it feels to me dishonest when in

905
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: gay pop culture they have like the slow music and

906
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: the romantic when they do it, because I'm like, Okay,

907
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: you're assimilating because you're doing a ballad when you're penetrating.

908
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, I need it. Like when.

909
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: When I first saw someone getting their ass eaten from

910
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: Queer's Folk, like that scene?

911
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: Did you absolutely? Like?

912
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: That is the that is gay sex, right, there.

913
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: Is the correct representation of gay sex. It's someone vaguely

914
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: menacing being like.

915
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: Are you a top or a do you want to

916
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: suck car?

917
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: We both recently watched the pilot over that series, right,

918
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: didn't you?

919
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: I think it's I mean it's great, it's great, ahead

920
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: of its time, definitely had way more seasons than I

921
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: thought than it probably should have at that point, like

922
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: at that point in pop culture, like people were still

923
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: watching it. And sorry, I'm going to just the I

924
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: watched Queer's Folk in the closet in high school.

925
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: By and this was risky. This was risky.

926
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: I took my mom's Hollywood Video card which she get

927
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: and she put me on the account, and I went

928
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: and rented Queer as Folk from Hollywood Video in Greensboro,

929
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: North Carolina, and made sure it was returned before the

930
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: do date so there were no late fees and so

931
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: that she couldn't check the history.

932
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: That is risky, m hm. So what I would do

933
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: is I would look up movies that have gay things

934
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: in them but were not branded as gay. Oh and

935
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 2: then I would sort of check those out. But it's

936
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: like my mom, if she sees like, oh, The Dreamers,

937
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: she's not going to be like, that sounds gay. She'll

938
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: just be like, okay, dream like that just sounds like

939
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: a movie.

940
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, I'm trying to think of it. I'm trying to

941
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 3: think of examples of this.

942
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: So have you ever seen The Dreamers. No, it's this

943
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: French movie where there's a sort of like MMF situation happening.

944
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 2: Two guys and actually and the woman is Eva Green.

945
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: Oh got it? Okay, so there was a woman involved. Yes,

946
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: there was a woman involved, and it was her virginity, right,

947
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: And unfortunately I was honestly way more about the two

948
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 2: of them with the women. Oh but there was full

949
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: frontal in it.

950
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Oh, well, that's amazing.

951
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: It was really.

952
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: I mean I kind of did the same thing with

953
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: Boogie Knights, but exactly.

954
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: But it's a great example. But I guess your mom

955
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: would know what that.

956
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 3: But there's like they're in that, but wow, Marquee Mark's

957
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: ass in that in that scene.

958
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: That I wish I didn't know that it was a prosthetic. No,

959
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: the dick is a prosthetic.

960
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 3: Natural, but yeah, the dick and like, what a scene

961
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: he just it's in spoiler alert.

962
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: He just stands up whips it out end of movie.

963
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: I mean, they don't make them and I'm not even

964
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: being I'm not even kidding. They do not make them

965
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: like that.

966
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: Like make prosthetic. Literally make someone whip whipping out the

967
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: biggest dick. You literally you are. You are one of

968
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: the like most critically claimed directors, and what you are

969
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: deciding to do is make a movie where Mark Wahlberg

970
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 3: whips out a giant cock.

971
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's genius. Like Greta Gerwig, if you're listening, let's.

972
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: Get let's let's get loud, Greta, it is time to

973
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: get loud.

974
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: By the way, here's what I actually would make it.

975
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: Have that scene, but then have the soundtrack. Me, let's

976
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: get loud. It's like, literally the penis is whipped out

977
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: and it goes let's get loud.

978
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: But it can it can it be the inauguration version.

979
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: That's how you have the campo and Greta knows what

980
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: she's doing. The dick is Michael Sarah is like, it's all.

981
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Dick's dialogue was written by Noam Yeah.

982
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: We've really gotten off the topic of No.

983
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's to be celebrated, great, wonderful. You know,

984
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: we don't believe in linear storytelling. Wonderful, and that is

985
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: how I approach the storytelling of my book.

986
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: So interesting. Well do you okay?

987
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: Do we have anything else we want to say about

988
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: waiting until marriage?

989
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I I have something the archetype of the

990
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: wedding night, like you have waited until waited until marriage.

991
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: You are you got married in a white dress as

992
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: symbol as you're pretty in your virginity. I meanwhile, you've

993
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: taken it up undred times. But okay, fine, we're at

994
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: the Ritz Carlton or whatever sort of more mid price,

995
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: the Grand Hiatt or the Grand Higat, and maybe a

996
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: holiday inn. Sure, the buffets on point on point, but

997
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: breakfast is over at ten am, so wake up. A

998
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: waffle maker gets a line, so.

999
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 3: Sure you get there on time.

1000
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: And so you are in the hotel room and suddenly

1001
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: it's you, it's your new husband, and it's time to

1002
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: do it, and neither of you has any idea how

1003
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: it works.

1004
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: See that actually sounds very hot to me. Say more, well,

1005
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: if you literally waited until marriage like and not the

1006
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: anal portion like if you actually wait, yeah, like that

1007
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: is literally the end of edging, and they would like

1008
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: go into that room and be like this is crazy.

1009
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: Like what we're about to do is insane. But here's

1010
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: the thing.

1011
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be horrible, but.

1012
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: But well and then well, no, go ahead, what if

1013
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: it is horrible. That's the thing.

1014
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: Now you've made a life long commitment to bad sex.

1015
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: Well, it's not just that, because guess what, it'll be

1016
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 2: good for the man and bad for the woman. And

1017
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: that is ultimately what the straightest thing about waiting until

1018
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: marriages marriages is that it is sexist because a man basically,

1019
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: if a man comes and he doesn't know an alternative

1020
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: that is still pretty good. Yeah, where is that woman

1021
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: will never have good sex in her entire life? Yeah,

1022
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: and that's sort of what like it's not even about like, yes,

1023
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: the purity part of it is straight, in the religion part,

1024
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: in the wedding part, but it's ultimately that it is

1025
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: setting women up for failure. Wow, under the guise of like.

1026
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: God, amen, Wow, Wow, Cody, where are those tears? We're

1027
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: gonna need those?

1028
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: Are you an ally to women or not? Oh?

1029
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: My god?

1030
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: Is there a chapter about that it's time to make

1031
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: your voice word. Now, do you feel like writing a

1032
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 2: book was a gayer straight experience for you? It's something

1033
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: we are unsure about, like in terms of whether writing,

1034
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 2: specifically writing a book length work if it's gary straight. Yeah,

1035
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: On the one hand, it's hemingway yeah.

1036
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, here's my take fiction gay one you know,

1037
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: non not even not wait, not even well because then

1038
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 3: what about Joon Didon?

1039
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, memoir memoir straight straight straight, yes, because

1040
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: memoir is giving military general shares the secrets.

1041
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and.

1042
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: It's also giving like bio like it's like a memoir biopic,

1043
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: very straight genre of film by sure. Yeah yeah, I

1044
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: think book of essays.

1045
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's somewhere in the spectrum memoirs. I need

1046
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: to learn more about biculture to be to give course.

1047
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: Is your book a memoir or or it is a

1048
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 3: memoir slash life and relationship advice through my lived experience.

1049
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: Oh so it's there is a sort of self help advice.

1050
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, we're getting the girls together.

1051
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 2: That's why the body count chapter. Yes, so you can

1052
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: do it.

1053
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 3: There's a whole dating sex positivity to get that dig

1054
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: you know, like all that, but beautiful not on the wedding,

1055
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: not only on the wedding night. And I also think

1056
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: going back to the kind of the topic, is that

1057
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that everyone's wedding night sex has

1058
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: got to be kind of flop. Oh, it's got to be,

1059
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: because like I've been to a few weddings, and like

1060
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 3: if it was at night, like after the ceremony, the

1061
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 3: annoying relatives, the food, the beverages, then you're going to

1062
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 3: have sex. I'm tired, I'm going I'm going to bad, baby.

1063
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. I can. Actually sometimes I even feel

1064
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: this way, not always, but sometimes even after a big show,

1065
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm like the adrenaline is a different kind of addressaline

1066
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: and sexual adrenaline. Like I do feel like I want

1067
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: to stay out and dance. Yeah, I don't know if

1068
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: I could like perform.

1069
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll make out, of course that would be so fun.

1070
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: And making out sometimes is better than sex. It's true.

1071
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: Say that. Oh, oh okay, say that, especially before marriage.

1072
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: Marriage, Yeah, it's there needs to be like a new ritual,

1073
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: like the sex time happens like at like brunch or something.

1074
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: Well. Staying on topic, like I feel like some.

1075
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 3: Please Hasidic people, which I'm sure they're waiting till marriage,

1076
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: they like go in. They like literally like the ceremony happens.

1077
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: There's like a room for fifteen minutes, and then you

1078
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: go to the dinner and like the room is specifically

1079
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: for the sex.

1080
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: And then they come back out.

1081
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't don't quote me, I'm just saying with that,

1082
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: with very little historical knowledge, I will say that I

1083
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: think there are, in fact many religious traditions where sex

1084
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: is a more communal where it's like off, they go

1085
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: have sex X.

1086
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: Now it's time to party. Okay, unfortunately I love that. No,

1087
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: that's that's party. But also having sex be part. That's

1088
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: actually talk about destigmatizing. It's like fam all here here,

1089
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: it's so sex positive.

1090
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: It's actually we should I mean this is that's literally

1091
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: their dark room totally.

1092
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 2: Like we love a dark room.

1093
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: I love a dark room exactly. But you know, you

1094
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: have the dark room so you can, you know, get

1095
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: your dick wet and then come back to your girls

1096
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 3: at the darty and then you don't have to leave

1097
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: the clubs and so good for them. They have their

1098
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 3: dark room, the dark and that makes the like entrance

1099
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: into the food banquet, like so much more exciting.

1100
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone being like, I know you have like the

1101
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: post cum shave. You're like, fuck. That's a final segment,

1102
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: m Our. Final segment, Cody is all shout outs, and

1103
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: in this segment we pay homage to a classic straight

1104
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: oral tradition of the radio shout outs. So you're shouting

1105
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: outsing to your squad back home. You are saying you

1106
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: are on Zie one hundred, you are on MTV's TRL,

1107
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: and you are doing a shout out. We'll do ours first,

1108
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: and so you have time. Okay, okay, okay, you have one.

1109
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: I actually do have one prepared.

1110
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I need to like, yeah, I need to

1111
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: see how you do it, and then I will do it.

1112
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: What's up, preeclusions and perverts all around the globe? I

1113
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: want to give a huge shout out to Wednesdays.

1114
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 2: That's right.

1115
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: I've decided recently that Wednesday is my favorite day of

1116
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 1: the week.

1117
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: People that like Friday, I get it.

1118
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: You want your dessert and that's fine, but don't you

1119
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: want a little bit of salt on your damn cookie.

1120
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: Let's have some some.

1121
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: I want some work ethic, and then I also want

1122
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: to feel like I'm getting through the week. Wednesday is

1123
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: the perfect day because Monday and Tuesday are long gone,

1124
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: Friday is just around the corner, and you're still in

1125
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: a productive headspace. Yeah. I can't help it. I'm toxic

1126
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: productivity culture.

1127
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: I live in New York City. For crying out loud,

1128
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: you think grant's free.

1129
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: I love Wednesdays. It's got even a fun nickname of

1130
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: hump Day, which some people try to sexualize, which doesn't

1131
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: quite work for me, but I actually wish it worked

1132
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: a little bit better.

1133
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: We need to put sex back into weekdays.

1134
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: We need to celebrate Wednesday for what it is, a

1135
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: beautiful midpoint in our lives.

1136
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: XOXO. Say ooo alright, Wow, Okay, I'm going. I'm going

1137
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: what's up? Girls and women and no one else. I

1138
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: want to give a quick shout out to That's right,

1139
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 2: my sandals that I got from the Spanish brand Camper,

1140
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: which I thought was German but it's actually Spanish Believer.

1141
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: Oh and then when I was in Philly for our

1142
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: famous tour, I saw a woman wearing the same one

1143
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: at a coffee shop. She comes up to me, she says,

1144
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: nice sandals. I don't look up at her because I'm

1145
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: busy looking at my phone, and I say, think you.

1146
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: She goes no nice sandals, points to her feet. I say, okay,

1147
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: you're my sister. We are blood relatives, and we are

1148
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: forming a girl band as soon as we find a

1149
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: third girl. And that moment I realized my sandal, of

1150
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 2: our women's sandals, and I only loved myself more, and

1151
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: I only love my choices more, and I'm gonna go

1152
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: back to Camper and buy them in all different colors.

1153
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: Shout out to Camper, and shout out to my sandals.

1154
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 2: Who chel for a woman, for being stern with you? Yeah,

1155
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: I like happy. And then of course my way of

1156
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 2: like making up for it was I became extra gay

1157
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 2: where I was like, oh girl, we are definitely yeah, yeah, yeah, Cody,

1158
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: whenever you're ready, and honestly, no pressure, there's whatever you feel, okay, girlies.

1159
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: I want to give a big shout out to a

1160
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: DNA Manzelle. She's given us great hits from Rent, from Wicked,

1161
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 3: and of course she's on her new tour, plugging her beautiful,

1162
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 3: amazing dance tracks in her beautifully, comfortably plain and basic

1163
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 3: clothes as the girls on TikTok said, Old Navy is shaking.

1164
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: That was incredible.

1165
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, of course, thank you so much for

1166
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 3: having me again.

1167
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: What is the book called?

1168
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: Xoxo Cody An Opinionated Homosexuals, God to Self, Love, Relationships

1169
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 3: and Tactful Pettiness. Out September twelve. You can pre order

1170
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 3: now though, if you'd.

1171
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: Like, okay, mm hmm, I'm gonna say it, you should go.

1172
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: We should go on on bookshop dot org and and

1173
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: and and pure because we're supporting indie bookstore midtown in

1174
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: this town, sweetheart, in midtown. All right, all right, well

1175
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: it's an absolute blass.

1176
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you baby for doing it in the blast.

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00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta get the fuck out of here.