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Forward slash the PSD podcast asked, now, 28 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: please keep in mind that all of my guests are Annes. 29 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: So let's again this week's episode. So I'm super excited 30 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: about this week's episode because it is with my friend 31 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: from middle school, right, yeah, okay, perfectly. So I was 32 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: up one night going down a rabbit hole on Instagram child, 33 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: and I came across the video of a woman showing 34 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: that her husband left her after eighteen years together and 35 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: he cleaned up their apartment that they shared together. So 36 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: initially I thought like, oh, ship, Like niggas ain't ship. 37 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: But then when I saw your picture in the story, 38 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's so on. So, so before 39 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: we get into everything, how are you doing? I'm doing Okay? 40 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: Are you sure? You said you sound like you're a 41 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: little hesitant. Well, well, when I'm sitting um, I came 42 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: into my room. The clubbed the door, the mom bore 43 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: outside of the knowing me. Um, and I had to 44 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: pay to say I'm okay because you know it's open down. 45 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: It's like some day then nick day. Nothing. Well, let's 46 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: start warlder icebreaker. So I feel like we haven't talked 47 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: in forever. So do you remember us being in school together? Yeah? Okay, 48 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: So what do you remember about me? And I'll tell 49 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: you what I remember about you? Um. I remember you 50 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: being animated. I remember you not being afraid to speak 51 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: your mind. You know, Hana Field was really closed mm 52 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: hmm um, and we still okay. I remember being you 53 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: smart um, and you kind of always gonna go get it. 54 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: Your hair still had the trade the trade of light, 55 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: like buck, y'all go get it. So I remember you 56 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: being confident in yourself. I remember you're being sexy too, 57 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: like I always felt like, remember we used to always 58 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: seeing Tony Braxit. Ain't that funny? Like I always felt 59 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: like you was just like so sexy and like very 60 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: like sultry. Used to always see Tony Brexon. And I 61 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: also felt like looking back now that you were a 62 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: lot older than us mentally. Yeah, I think I've always 63 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: had a little, a little grand mama spirit. Mm hmm. 64 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 1: But I can't only imagine the emotions you've been feeling 65 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: these past couple of days, especially since your story went viral. 66 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: Did you expect your story to go vi like it 67 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: did many when I said this, um my video, I 68 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: had to hunt your fires, so I ain't the way 69 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna go battle m hmm. So 70 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: when you started seeing it going viral, like what did 71 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: you do? What were you thinking? My mission thought was 72 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: oh ship And then I was like, I don't know. 73 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: I like, I'll the comments people, some people, are you 74 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: really really rude? Like all comments? I made the mistakes 75 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: of the first today, probably reading way to many negative comments, 76 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: but after that, I it is kind of all like 77 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: all ship it. I shot it all down, Yeah, because 78 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: I was the reasoning the comments and I'm like, oh wow, 79 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, you are really receiving a lot of reactions. 80 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: And it was just now on Instagram and was on 81 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: TikTok Facebook. Yeah, that's why I shared it on TikTok. 82 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: So at the time when I uploaded the video, I 83 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: had a hunch of powers and I shared it like 84 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: before going to be I think it was kind of 85 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: like my releasing to the world. Then the next morning, 86 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: when I woke up and if I had like almost 87 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: ten thousand comment I was like, no, that don't care, 88 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: all right, And then how the video had like kind 89 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: of taking the life of its own and people started 90 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: sharing it in all other places like Twitter and Instagram, 91 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Like I didn't share it those I don't share it 92 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: on TikTok, And I know that a lot of women 93 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: share that they were in the same exact situation or 94 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: something similar like yours. So how did that make you feel? 95 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Hearing that? I was confident when you have people people, 96 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: I can't understand where you're coming from. Benning was also 97 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: kind of discouraged the right the fact that people do 98 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: this like they're awful, Like whole families. I had one 99 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: lady messaged me like her home, like her husband left 100 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: her life with, you know, two little kids and just 101 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: her and like cleared out there their house, like like 102 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: whole families like are being destroyed this way. I don't know. 103 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: It was, um, it's just mind blowing that they happened 104 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: as often as it does. Yeah, that's why when I 105 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: saw the post, I was like, wait, what, because you've 106 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: been with your husband for almost twenty years. Yeah, so 107 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: we met. We were fifteen thirty five this year. Mm hm, 108 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: So it sucks and like to you know, to hear 109 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: like his Fashionneil to read his Facebook post like where 110 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: all the like lives, just like, oh man, you won't 111 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: even give the truth in the very end, like you 112 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: will take everything out of the party. There's still more 113 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: giving the truth. It's like it's curtful. But I just 114 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: told myself whatever he needs to tell himself to be 115 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: able to see the night, it's positively he needs to do. 116 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: And did you ever think that he would lead the 117 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: way he did? No? I thought I was worth at 118 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: least a conversation or at leasta text messages, right, we 119 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: were texting when I was in there gets and stuff. 120 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: And if he had you know, had a second power 121 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: or he was just like, you know, I'm not gonna 122 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: be here when he's eis here, he could at least 123 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: have to text messages. But the kind just d me 124 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: walk into that. They really stuck, I guess because I 125 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: don't think about doing it to people like not in 126 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: not in that way like militias. Intend just isn't my things, 127 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 1: Like I believe in Calma, like wholeheartedly. So I would 128 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: have assisted the Lisa text message, like that would have 129 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: been better than just kind of walk me to the 130 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: blind sided. I feel like I slick. Remember you being 131 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: in a relationship with him we were kids or am 132 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: I lying? You know? I met him? Um, we met 133 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: were nine. We started dating when we were fifteen. Like 134 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: he was like my first like the real the real 135 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: boy thing, like my mom like meet him. It's like okay, 136 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: if things cool, like you can date him over there. 137 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: And we were like owning off and like you know, 138 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: um high school and stuff, but then you know, college 139 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. Eventually I thought we got it together, but 140 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: obviously I was mistaken. Yeah, because I remember, like you 141 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: having somebody when we was growing up, and I'm like, 142 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if this is the same person due to 143 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: the time frame. Yeah, he's been around alone. Yeah, listen 144 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: my memories. It is no joke every ding. So I know, 145 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: like any other marriage, I probably had your issues. But 146 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: were there any red flags that you overlooked? Oh? If 147 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm honest, which I try to be, there's a lot 148 00:08:53,080 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: of the FLEs overlooks, Like I looked over it crazy 149 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: because I was just talking to my my friend Erica, 150 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: and I was talking about the things I looked her 151 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: from when even when we were younger, and my mom 152 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: used to tell me, Uh, then he feels like he's 153 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: better than you. You need to be careful with him 154 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: because like he's been to you, Like our backgrounds were 155 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: very different. He kind of grew up like me the 156 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: class you know, I grew up in her and now 157 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: they just this and um Like even then, like starting 158 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: really early, like the way he would treat me was 159 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: kind of show me that he kind of felt and 160 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: he was kind of doing me a favorite of being 161 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: with me. But when you don't have like a sense 162 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: of self work and your iddity, it's kind of like 163 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: tied to being with this person. Like my life became 164 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: about shifting and shaping to the person that he wanted 165 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: me to be. So I could see the side his 166 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: boxing and beating him, Like it was very important for 167 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: me to be with him. I mean, the last couple 168 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: of weeks I've had time to reflect on it. But 169 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: that's the space that I was in at the time. 170 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: So it wasn't like self worth wasn't wasn't a thing 171 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: like for me. He was just like it was tied 172 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: to him. So if I could change and be who 173 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: he wants me to be and then he wants me, 174 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: then everything he's right in the world. And this is 175 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: kind of like the space that I operated in unfortunately, 176 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: so it was a lot of stuff. I know it. 177 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: And I also because I was going through your posts 178 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: and I saw that you mentioned that your husband was 179 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: the first male I sided your family to tell you 180 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: that he loves you. So do you think at one 181 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: point that you validated yourself worth from other people, especially men, 182 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: since she wasn't receiving it from home. Yeah, I mean 183 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: I grew up without my dad, so um, I mean 184 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: like if you started like many earliest for me, So 185 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: like I grew up without my dad on top of 186 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: being a listed about back mill of my family. So 187 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: like you know, I was always kind of taking work 188 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: in validation from some men especially And I also feel 189 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: like I remember you being molested too, because somebody We 190 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: was all growing up. It was kind of all like 191 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: many of the school we went to, but we was 192 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: kind of like close in the sense, Yeah, I do 193 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: missed to get all day like there we had it's 194 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: like kind of like tight knit and you know, got 195 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: a little bit different, but we really were. And yeah, 196 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: like I've shared it a few times, I don't think 197 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: I actually started to be like helpful ward or like 198 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: to dig into those issues. And I was like, yeah, 199 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: because I remember when I was just prepared for this 200 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: interview and I was just thinking about all this stuff. 201 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: He was doing his kids stuff, and I'm like, I 202 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: remember certain things about her, like I remember your cousin 203 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: Crystal every day. So let's talk about the events that 204 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: let up to him leaving. So I know it always 205 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: really your heart to be an entrepreneur, and I feel 206 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: like I remember that as kids as well too, mm hmm. 207 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: So what was his thoughts on it? Um? He was 208 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: like totally agifted, which is like surprised. It Like at 209 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: first it seemed like he looked like on board, and 210 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: then he had like his own experience with entrepreneurships with 211 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: Angels Virgie and it didn't work out the way that 212 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: he wanted it to work out. It was partly like 213 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: eight months I worked a mis bunches at him um 214 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: I answers assistant manager, and he out he kind of 215 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: felt like there was a fail because he had to 216 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: give it up. So I just kind of feel like 217 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: somewhere and there he started saying it was either he 218 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: was judging my sperence or where he thinks was gonna 219 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: be my sperience based on as a spence, or be 220 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: down even more me to see that he had failed. 221 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So what was the conversation like when you 222 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: decided that you wanted to give entrepreneurship a shot? Um, 223 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: I try not to use the student to replace, but 224 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: he literally said to me, Um, the only way that 225 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: I could be supportive of of your jams is if 226 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: we lived separately. Yes, I heard that, And while was 227 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: that like to me, like I have like no clue, 228 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: like even when I like to say it out now now, 229 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: like it doesn't make any sense to me. So my 230 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: first reaction was will read the property to just for 231 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: canceling because I'm not understanding like where it is coming from. 232 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: And he couldn't even explain it to me. I don't 233 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: know if he couldn't or he wouldn't, but it was 234 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: just that's what it was. When Yeah, and the canceler 235 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: would ask him, he would ask me, like, I don't 236 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: understand like where you're coming from this space, and even 237 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: in counseling, canceling to say You've given me a lot 238 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: of hell between not really answering the questions. So even 239 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: with us going through cancling, I don't think he was 240 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: actually there for help. Looking back there, I think he 241 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: had already made up in his mind, but he just 242 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: kind of killed me on this strength, just kept kind 243 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: of kept stringing me alone. Do you think he was 244 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: afraid of losion youth since it does take so much 245 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: time to invest in those in the business, or do 246 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: you think it was jealousy? Um? Looking at it now, 247 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: I feel like the easy jealousy. Mm hmm um. Another 248 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: actually gotten it from a lot of people who've been 249 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: around us who said that they could despy his jealousy. 250 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: Um may see that he was r jealous for my 251 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: spirit like or or my lfe. That's how some people 252 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: quit it. And I never saw that like being there 253 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: because I was operating in a space. H. This is 254 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: for me and my husband. I'm gonna help you know, 255 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna build this light together. Then we're gonna have 256 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: these kids, and we're gonna regenerational welcome blah blah blah 257 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: like all this going on. In my mind, it was 258 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: never about me. It was about Earth. So I never 259 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: saw that. Mm hmm. So how was he in night 260 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: before you left for your your Veggat trip because you 261 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: went to Vegas for a business trip. Yeah, so I 262 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: went to Vegas for a week and before a Nason, Like, 263 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we was kicking it like this is what's 264 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: so funny to me. I was kicking it one of 265 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: our favorite dishes to eat. The other crab thing, crab blace. 266 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: She's gonna to tell crab blades. And I came back 267 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: from um from Vengas, Um, like we watch movies every 268 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: night together, um talk. I thought we were talking earnestly. 269 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: Obviously I was the food on that one, but just 270 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: talking about our relationship. The last thing he said to 271 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: me was, um, I don't want to lose you, and 272 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: I want this to work. You know, I want my 273 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: wife over there for so I'm leaving like feeling good, 274 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: like you know, aside from me later finding out he 275 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: took my wedding rain. Um, aside from like my rain 276 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: like not being where I left it, and then everything's 277 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: like a dude, so I actually took my rain off 278 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: to eat that Saturday. I don't like food, you need it. 279 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: And then the Sunday my rain wasn't on the table 280 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: and I kept telling him my spirit telling me you 281 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: got my ring. I was like, I don't know why 282 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: you got my rain, but I want my rain. It ever, 283 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: and when I came back, you know, the apartment being creative, 284 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: then he had left his rings. So now I know 285 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: why I need to mm hmm. So are you was away? 286 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: How was he acting like we are texting? Yes, and 287 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: we were texting texting Monday and Tuesday Tuesday, eating the 288 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: text and stopped and I think this when he had 289 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: started moving stuff then, but like all the text messages 290 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: kind of like stopped, and I started to get like 291 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: this feely in my stommy, you know, had like you 292 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: know something going on, but you don't really know what 293 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: going on. Like so from Tuesday night all the way 294 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: up until I came back, like my sister alone, listen 295 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: to a minute wrong crying that I will go take 296 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: the shower, and I just get in their crime. It's 297 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: like I don't know what's like, what's going on. I'm 298 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: trying to figure out like what I did, Like everything 299 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: was just cool, you know, and being like all communications 300 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: just stopped. It turned out he had she blocked my numbers. 301 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: I think that is just so crazy to me. But 302 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why I think it's crazy. So 303 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: by this time you're coming home, your brother in law 304 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: came and pick you up from the airport. Yeah, and 305 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: remind y'all, he helped your husband move everything out. It's 306 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: the story I got and he, I mean, he knew. 307 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: It's why I'm not even mad at him like I 308 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: wanted to be when I'm mad at him, because she's 309 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: brother there at the end of the day, and I 310 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: know if my stisters told me that she's just gonna 311 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: do something, whether I tried to talk her out over 312 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: the night, she was gonna do it, and I was 313 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: gonna be her keeper. It's like, I'm not even mad 314 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 1: at him. But at the same time, it was like 315 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: a bro, you couldn't give me their head to or 316 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: what he or nothing, nothing Like I was like, he 317 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: couldn't give their hands, So about what I was about 318 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: to walk up fairs to like nothing. So yeah, that's 319 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: like y'all in the car, he probably asking you about 320 00:17:54,520 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: your trip, you asking him how he's doing. I mean 321 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: I spoke to him, um um, you know, say his 322 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: nickname or whether I spoke to him, got into the car, 323 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: my sitter lot with me this uh so you know 324 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: that her husband. So she was like, you're asking him 325 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: how he's just doing and blah blah blah stuff like that, 326 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: and um, he dropped me off because I had I 327 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: would have asked my husband to pick me up from 328 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: the airport, but he never responded. So his brother in 329 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: the dropped the office um at the house and when 330 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: I was like going upstairs, I couldn't give in the 331 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: house there first, UM the code so the colde was changed. 332 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: So I had to go downstairs and ask his screen 333 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: because now I realized that he's blocked me at this 334 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: point because I'm called and he gore stressed a voice 335 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: to me. I said, okay, the is fine. Why he 336 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: stopped asking my answering my tasting issues and stuff? I said, 337 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: he's blocked me. So I was like, hey, can you 338 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: ask your friends? You need the code for the door 339 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: or whatever. Sactually didn't even hide outside and stuff like that. 340 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: I opened door im needly like started screaming and I 341 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: called um so I did which my sister or whatever? 342 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: And I was like this boy, this man has taken everything, 343 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: like everything is gone, like the departments like completely empty 344 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: where I said, the only thing missing his and my jeel, 345 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: Like I'm crying his steaks and like I'm making a 346 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: food on the phone or whatever, and um, she's like 347 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: asking him like she was like personally had herds me 348 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: like in the background and stuff like that. Over they 349 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: were like till like she was upset. So she didn't 350 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: know either. H it was a big miss. So we 351 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: didn't know, right because y'all the way and Vegas together. Yeah, 352 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: And I also thought it was kind of fun up 353 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: that the only thing that he did dead leave besides 354 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: your jury was the wedding dress. Yep, the wading dress 355 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: in the closet, and he left his his wedding band. 356 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: Um hm, unless his wedding dancing over there on the 357 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: pal of Um. It was a little table there was 358 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: in the room. You know, he's reading dancing over there 359 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: on with um a card that I had gave him 360 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: like a vout time today or something I there like 361 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. You know. So why would 362 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: you say he left? Because I know that's like the 363 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: million dollar question that everybody keep asking you, And I 364 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: guess everybody just can't believe that a man would just 365 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 1: lead away that he did. Oh, well. Um. According to 366 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: his Facebook post, he left the way that he left 367 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: because he didn't want to Tolpy to get involved. I 368 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: didn't like that into initially because I feel like he 369 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: was trying to shout all my name or whatever or 370 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: implied that like I would have gotten you know, visor 371 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: or something. But for the record, he's the only person 372 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: who has the record. He's the only person who had 373 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: he who had to go to court mandated, UM and 374 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: your management. I haven't had to go through any of it. Like, so, 375 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't know where he thought was gonna happened in 376 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: his mind. But he could have told me right now, 377 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: like I mean, what am I going to do? Like 378 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: if you decided that you weren't gonna be there, what 379 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: am I gonna do? But he couldn't. He could have 380 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: told me so, I mean, there was his reason. He 381 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: saw opportunity and he said that was the best way 382 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: to do things. And since police has never been a factor, 383 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: why we like, why bring that up? That's what kind 384 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: of I felt like it was kind of like a 385 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: dig me. He diging me, like I don't I don't understand, 386 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: Like there's nothing my husband is almost wipe my side 387 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: mm hmm, what am I gonna do to him? And 388 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: I know you kept saying that cheating wasn't a factor 389 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: that you know of. Yeah, Like, as far as I know, 390 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: he wasn't cheating. Um, but I can't tell you where 391 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: he is. I can't tell you where he's living. He 392 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: could he could very well be living with somebody, um else, 393 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: he could very well be living with us, with the 394 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: one the lie. I don't know, Like, I don't know 395 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: where he is because I haven't spoken at all. He 396 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: unblocked me long enough on I was that this pay 397 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: is maybe Monday. He on block. He longereness to message 398 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: me on Facebook to say that he's a sorry to 399 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: hurt you, and I wouldn't hear them block and right then, Yeah, 400 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: that's crazy. So what's next? Or is it too soon 401 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: to say? Because how do you come back from this? Well, 402 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: it's fine relationships though, I'm gonna need a break. I'm 403 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna need a long break actually, um and um, I 404 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: think I'm just kind of looking at it as the 405 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to do I will say that when you ask 406 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: dry for a sign, sometimes sometimes you take this time 407 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: and sometimes you slapp you right in your face. Yeah, Okay, 408 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: this was one of those times I got left in 409 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: the face, and um, I I feel like it's my 410 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to really um focus on the things just importting 411 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: me and um um really date in court myself and 412 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: like you to know the things that you know, I 413 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: like you love about myself because I've always kind of 414 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: led somebody else to take that. What's also so surprised 415 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: because I always thought, like, like I said, I always 416 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: remember you just being so confident, like and I get it, 417 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: like because I have my insecurities as well, but I 418 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: just remember you just being like like, I don't know, 419 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: I guess this may sound a little weird because we 420 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: were kids, but you just always were so sultry and 421 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: like you bore certain things like I don't know, like 422 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: you were just like a little diva. See. And I 423 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: think that's kind of like Rob getting back to like, uh, 424 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: when I before I got into like him, like we're heavy, 425 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: Like I didn't have like, at least so confidence. I 426 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: did have a sense of confidence, Like I had a 427 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: sense of like, you know, things that maybe happy or 428 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: feel good and stuff like that. And then sometimes when 429 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: you get involved with like the wrong person making stuff 430 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: all the light out of you. I've really had people 431 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: tell me I can always tell when you went back 432 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: to him because your it's like you would shrink mm hmm, 433 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: and like I kind of spit them long time, and 434 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: like in this space, it's like I couldn't you too be. 435 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: I couldn't be too animated. I couldn't be you know, 436 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: too deep or there or whatever, because it will bother him. 437 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: And why I stayed looking at it now everything, like 438 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 1: why I stayed with a man it bothered him, like 439 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: my laugh bothered him, like me being too happy about 440 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: something bothering him. Like so I was always shrinking and 441 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: why I stay just you know you when you when 442 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: you know better, you do better. I know better now, right, 443 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: So what was the one thing that you would take 444 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: away not from this situation but overall this relationship. Um it, 445 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: if it's gonna cost me my piece when this preeton 446 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: m that's a fact, child, almost said your name child, 447 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: that is a fact. If it's so costing my piece, 448 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't want it. Yeah, man's and all there, like 449 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, I'd up in a gift. Man. 450 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 1: So actually loved being a wife. So woman's done right. 451 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: It is absolutely beautiful thing. But I would tell any 452 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: woman like, don't rush should to get to the altar. 453 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: Don't be looking at like, oh my god, I'm going 454 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: to be thirty five and I'm not married, So what 455 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: man take their freedom? I being man, I now I'll 456 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: just catch this to be a times. So I know that, Yeah, 457 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: that's a fact, because I think marriage is a beautiful Um, 458 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's a beautiful thing, but you gotta be 459 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: with the right person. Yep, that's that's for sure. So 460 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: I know recently that you became a self love self 461 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: love coach, So can you tell us about that journey? Yeah, So, um, 462 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: the course itself was, um about it a six months 463 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: and this is just to me kind of tapping into 464 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: I have to go have to kind of reveal it 465 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: to me, like what my um, what my purposes here 466 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: on this earth and um, it's kind of revealed this 467 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: to me this course and our six months journey, um, 468 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: every single day going over different tools and modalities to 469 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: kind of tat captain too like my after the authorities, 470 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 1: but also the the foundation of the course teaches like 471 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: me as them as the coach, you know, selfuler than 472 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: how to get to their place of you know, appreciation. 473 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: They were I can help other women along the journey, um, 474 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: and it was definitely UM. I think it was probably 475 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: one of the the nails and the coffin as well, 476 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: because I was starting to come to my own the 477 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: kind of feel more confident and kind of get back 478 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: to my life and those things that make me special 479 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: or I feel like makes me special, um, and the 480 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: course just kind of beauty for me. And then I 481 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: was just kind of like, this is where I want 482 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: to go, like with my career, because there's so many 483 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: of us who are like struggling with like you know, 484 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: some someoney us healthy for traumas, use me through sexually 485 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: or otherwise. So many of us, like you know, doubt 486 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: our importance in this world. And I just kind of 487 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: want to help women like give back to their life 488 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: because they really spent unfortunate. The world is cruel to women, 489 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: and we spent so much of our lives like fighting 490 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: to just be to just be right, to just be 491 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: a sis. And I just kind of wanted to help 492 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: with me at journey. And I read on your one 493 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: of your posts that you said that you grew up 494 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: in a trauma fields single parent household and I just 495 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: knew exactly what you meant because I did as well. 496 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: So can you talk more about that? And the reason 497 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: I'm asking is because I know at times from our 498 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: childhood things would show up in our adulthood and we 499 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: sometimes overlook it because it's familiar. Yeah. Yeah, So I 500 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: grew up like so my mom was actually uhls by 501 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: one of her mother's boyfriends and uh like my my grandma. 502 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: Unfortunately as she took her boyfriend side to put my 503 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: mom out, my mom hand me. Really, your mom had me, 504 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: she got pregnancy, had me then I was lessly young. Um, 505 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: but you was not to cut you off, but you 506 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: was the person who molested her. That's not your dad, 507 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: is that your dad? Now? My um? My dad like 508 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: actually went out to the to the military when he 509 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: was like he was to you and other than my mom. 510 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: So he was seventeen and he went out to the military, 511 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: and um, but like I kind of like I was 512 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: molited in five and then something there and like kind 513 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: of like started this us cycle. My mom als her 514 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: head and you know, so she was very very hands on. 515 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: Like now, I'm not saying anything about the like my 516 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: mom raised me. She the b to like my mom 517 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: beat my mom beat the hell out of you if 518 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: you breathe the wrong way, like especially when I was younger, 519 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: like she'd beat the hell out of you. I was 520 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: caught off, had the names. I was told I was 521 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: a mistake, like from very very early, like, um, this 522 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: is the stuff that we grow up in in um 523 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: because they had to say our parents and the you 524 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: know they feel like then they're okay, and so we'll 525 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: turn out out right whatever it burnt, like, I mean, 526 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: give punition. The face wasn't nothing, didn't beat cool and 527 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: like there was nothing. I don't know if you remember 528 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: when it was times I kind of schooled with how 529 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: to tell that sad and I have on long sleeves. 530 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: My own stuff was was built up so bad, and 531 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: she would she would say, I dare you to show 532 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: somebody it's who I dare somebody to contact me like 533 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: so this like chaos I grew up, you know, grew 534 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: up in and because she was going over with me too, right, 535 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: she had me like really young. So it was just 536 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: that come combined with like yourself worth before very very 537 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: early and I didn't realize like why I was so angry, 538 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: especially like in my twenties until I started going to counseling, 539 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: and I could remember my first counseling session where I just, 540 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I just deal with everything. And 541 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: she gave me the biggest cause she said, David, you've 542 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: been carrying me all this time. M that's what happened 543 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I definitely listen, child, I have some 544 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: stories because you know, when people see people like us, 545 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: they don't think that we've been through things that I 546 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: don't ever going school with a bust it up. Mm hmmm. 547 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: So it's just like I definitely understand. So I know 548 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: your mom passed away, Now, so how did y'all did 549 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: y'all move forward? Like did you forgive he or did 550 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: you have a conversation that she apologize? Unfortunately, we never 551 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: got to have the conversation that I wanted to have 552 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: before she passed away. But I was able to buck 553 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: through um in counseling. Um. It was just how way 554 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: I had to do it on my own. You can't 555 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: kind of becomes like double work when you don't, yeah, 556 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: when you don't have the other person there to kind 557 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: of you know, tell what you want to tell them, 558 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I really made my piece really 559 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: knowing that she really beat the best that she too 560 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: with the tools that um that she was given. And unfortunately, 561 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: you can't mean if you an't no better, if you 562 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: don't do better. And that's what she knew by growing 563 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: up and that's what happened. Um, I know, I forgive 564 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: for anything. And today, all right, I feel like we 565 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: were all going through maship growing up. But the school 566 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: was like an escape for us. It really was. There 567 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: was the time we got to be like Cinny and 568 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: like you know, play make believe and like telling that 569 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: are like all the stuff we probably could talk about 570 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: at home. We got to last. We got to kick it. 571 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: I know, were Crystal and mckill and were Chinese and 572 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: Monica we're too busy being the goddesses. And the Dean 573 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: wasn't crappy. Yes, yes, that was a little postgame in school, y'all. Yes, 574 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: oh my god. But the memory so that was our 575 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: escaped and I can't remember even with like Harrista, I 576 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: feel like Harrison was going through a things with you too, 577 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: being like when he came to dressing and sun like 578 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: I knew there was always gonna be in their boys 579 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: bad ground, like because he was so gifted. It's such 580 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: a young age. I remember when we were in high 581 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: school and like we're true jobs. Like he's always about 582 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: to the butter, like there was our escape. So we 583 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: were like we should have been children, but we kind 584 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: of like the grown up in so many ways, and 585 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: we would just push it to Survine and get together. Yeah, 586 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: I agree, man, I remember one memory, I don't. I 587 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: feel like he was in the hallway with us. And 588 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: that's the one thing I can say. And I definitely 589 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: want to get more into teaching and give it back 590 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: to like different um NFER city schools and h c 591 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: c U s because we had some good ass teachers. 592 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: Man mm hmm. Now we had something. We had some 593 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: excellent teachers, man, we really did. And I wish that 594 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: we had the language to articulate the things that we 595 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: was going to do at home, because if only they knew. 596 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: I really do think that they would have did the 597 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: right thing by us. I do too, right. So what 598 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: would you say that your mom taught you about self love? Um? 599 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: I think in the very end, I can remember her saying, 600 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: no matter what she said that anybody else there, she 601 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: says that there's something special about you, and where he's 602 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna take you to realize. They're like, none of us 603 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: can do it for you. M M. I think kind 604 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: of at this age now, you know, being thirty four, 605 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: it's like I finally like, I finally give it. It 606 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: took the wire to get here, but yeah, but I'm 607 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: glad I finally get here because some people don't, like 608 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: some people never get to like the realization of realizing 609 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: what's special about though. Mm hmm. So I know, what 610 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: do you want kids songs? So what would you teach 611 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: your kids about stelf love? Now that you are a 612 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: self love coach? I know I teach some from the 613 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: very beginning, like like that beautifully and one if you 614 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: made like the perfectly, like I already have like this 615 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: just it's a little bit weird, but I already have 616 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: this um talk in my mind, like I want boys. 617 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: I always say I'm the mother boys and I always um. 618 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: I've been practicing like mentally. You know, hey, little one, 619 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: you're beautiful, little one, You're perfect just the where you are. 620 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: I love you just the where you are, Like from 621 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: the top of your head down to the cells that 622 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: your feet are absolutely perfect. There's nothing it needs to 623 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: be changed in between like so like I practiced this 624 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: like every day, Like I want to speak life into 625 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: our kid because it really they're started kids. Like if 626 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: you can speak life into a child and they know 627 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: that very early, they don't have to spend the rest 628 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: of their life trying to figure out like who they are, 629 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: they can just do whatever it is they were meant 630 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: to do, you know, to do while they're here. Mm hmm. 631 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: So many of us have their disadvantage. We shin out 632 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: life trying to discover what's special about us and then 633 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: we get to the actual living and doing what you 634 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: know what we will push here for um for. But 635 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: if we could skip their whole part, then there's more 636 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: time the easy get to do and bring the joy 637 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: to people's lives that are supposed to bring while we're 638 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: here on you know, onbol time. Mm hm. That's a fact. 639 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: So do you plan on going to therapy for this situation? Oh? Yeah, 640 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: not believe a fray A hundred percent. So I already 641 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: have a therapist. I have a therapist, um um, and 642 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: I think I always keep too. Yeah, I love my therapist. 643 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: I haven't met her in a while because I think 644 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing pretty deecly with handling stuff and not 645 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: putting my hands on people. But I'm in a good space. Good. Well, 646 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: I just want to say that I'm super proud of you. Um. 647 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: I feel like you've been receiving a lot of support, 648 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: a lot of positive feedback love and life. So I 649 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: definitely feel like cause I feel like people been like 650 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: sending you um love donations. I think somebody's gonna get 651 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: you a mattress or something. Um miss um Michelle, I 652 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: got a new matchiss seeing me here. It came like 653 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: ulste Yeah, I feel like you've really been surrounded by love. 654 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: So that speaks a lot about your character. So I 655 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: hope that the situation would make you feel closer to 656 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: a little girl that I know that we're always confident 657 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: insure herself and that you never forget when you go 658 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: through another valley in life. Yeah. And if I had 659 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: any questions, of course, I told he was gonna be 660 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: fun child. She was a little nervous, y'all. I'm like, 661 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: I remember her being talkative, like, don't be hesitant. Now. Well, 662 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: if you'll have any questions, comments or concerns, or if 663 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: you want to get to know my guest a little 664 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: bit more, please make sure to email me at Hello 665 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: at the PhD podcast dot com. And until next time, everyone, Later, 666 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: DA