WEBVTT - #1096: November 14, 2025 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:19.340 Outro Music Dan and Jordan, I am sweating. 0:00:19.410 --> 0:00:20.579 KnowledgeFight.com. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:24.160 It's time to pray. I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. 0:00:24.220 --> 0:00:25.040 Knowledge Fight. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.080 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.060 guys saying we are the bad guys. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:30.060 Knowledge Fight. 0:00:30.140 --> 0:00:31.120 Dan and Jordan. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:32.269 Knowledge Fight. 0:00:32.330 --> 0:00:32.920 Need money. 0:00:39.090 --> 0:00:40.489 Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. 0:00:41.270 --> 0:00:45.510 Andy in Kansas. Stop it. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. 0:00:45.550 --> 0:00:45.750 Andy. 0:00:45.790 --> 0:00:48.170 It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas. 0:00:48.190 --> 0:00:48.650 You're on the air. 0:00:48.690 --> 0:00:49.890 Thanks for holding. 0:00:49.950 --> 0:00:50.170 Hello, Alex. 0:00:50.229 --> 0:00:51.170 I'm a first-time caller. 0:00:51.229 --> 0:00:52.760 I'm a huge fan. I love your work. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:53.940 Knowledge Fight. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.020 KnowledgeFight.com. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:58.960 I love you. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.100 Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:02.760 I'm Jordan. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.780 We're a couple dudes. Like to sit around, worship at 0:01:04.819 --> 0:01:06.819 the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about 0:01:07.140 --> 0:01:07.480 Alex Jones. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:08.660 Oh, indeed we are, Dan. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:09.200 Jordan. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:09.520 Dan. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:09.880 Jordan. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:10.720 Quick question for you. 0:01:10.740 --> 0:01:10.960 What's up? 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:12.259 What's your bright spot today, buddy? 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:12.900 Why don't you go first? 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.900 Well, my bright spot, we were actually just talking about it. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:20.540 We haven't recorded since it dropped, but we were guests 0:01:20.620 --> 0:01:23.300 on The Past Times with Dave and Gareth of. 0:01:23.220 --> 0:01:24.310 The Dollop Podcast. 0:01:24.330 --> 0:01:25.330 Yeah, what fun. 0:01:25.470 --> 0:01:27.890 It was a delightful time, and it was great, and 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:29.429 people have enjoyed it, so that's nice. 0:01:29.690 --> 0:01:32.530 Yeah, yeah, and it filled in for our Monday episode. 0:01:32.550 --> 0:01:34.250 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:01:34.270 --> 0:01:36.270 They gave us an excuse to do a Wednesday and 0:01:36.310 --> 0:01:36.729 Friday this week. 0:01:36.750 --> 0:01:37.490 Exactly, yeah. 0:01:37.930 --> 0:01:41.810 Um, yeah, no, it's, uh, you know, one of our early, uh, like, 0:01:41.830 --> 0:01:45.100 I don't remember if we had started this show yet 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.360 when we went to go see the doll up together, 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.300 but that was an early, uh, like, like a night 0:01:51.420 --> 0:01:54.170 out for the two of us that wasn't just screaming 0:01:54.220 --> 0:01:54.640 at a bar. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.110 No, it may literally have been a less than a 0:01:57.190 --> 0:01:59.950 week or two into us recording this show. 0:02:00.090 --> 0:02:00.250 Yeah. 0:02:00.310 --> 0:02:01.510 I mean, it had to have been, it had to 0:02:01.530 --> 0:02:04.650 have been like in the proximity. It was early. I, 0:02:04.890 --> 0:02:07.430 I can't remember. It was at the Athenaeum. And I 0:02:07.460 --> 0:02:09.419 can't remember if it was before or after you dragged 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:10.700 me to that British. 0:02:10.780 --> 0:02:14.100 It was, uh, it was after I want to say, uh, 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:15.480 and Dylan mourns Irish. 0:02:15.580 --> 0:02:15.900 All right. 0:02:15.940 --> 0:02:17.840 There's a difference. There's a difference. 0:02:18.370 --> 0:02:23.470 Um, Yeah, there's something really weird about being in that 0:02:23.550 --> 0:02:26.610 place and with these people that you have a history 0:02:26.630 --> 0:02:30.410 of listening to. I don't know, it's just, what a treat. 0:02:30.750 --> 0:02:34.570 Yeah, it is, it's just great. It's just really fun. 0:02:34.850 --> 0:02:35.770 You got to yell a lot? 0:02:36.169 --> 0:02:37.170 It was reaffirming. 0:02:37.330 --> 0:02:39.770 It was nice that, I think there was a small 0:02:39.830 --> 0:02:41.850 part of me that was worried that Gareth and I 0:02:41.889 --> 0:02:45.570 might get into the infinite riff, which I think early 0:02:45.730 --> 0:02:46.350 on we made it. 0:02:46.340 --> 0:02:47.440 Through about one sentence. 0:02:47.810 --> 0:02:48.859 The Jablonski affair. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:50.340 For about 15 minutes, yeah. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.880 But you were being egged on by both me and Dave. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.580 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were doing it. 0:02:55.660 --> 0:02:58.300 It was scary that you might be matter and antimatter 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:03.630 coming together and destroying the universe. But yeah, for my 0:03:03.750 --> 0:03:05.989 end of it, I did not know that we were 0:03:06.070 --> 0:03:06.970 video recording. 0:03:06.990 --> 0:03:08.130 No, didn't know that at all. 0:03:08.330 --> 0:03:11.350 And so for one thing, when we were recording this, 0:03:11.970 --> 0:03:15.380 I couldn't see Dave or Gareth. Nope. I could only 0:03:15.470 --> 0:03:18.840 see a slot between them. So I couldn't react to 0:03:18.980 --> 0:03:21.500 any of their facial expressions. And I didn't know we 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.780 were recording, so I was vaping a whole bunch. And 0:03:23.860 --> 0:03:27.380 I feel, I was so scared when the episode was like, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.370 it's going to be, it's coming out. Oh, boy. 0:03:31.210 --> 0:03:31.980 What are you going to do? 0:03:31.990 --> 0:03:34.109 What about the kids? Is that a bad example for 0:03:34.130 --> 0:03:36.250 the kids with this vape? 0:03:36.510 --> 0:03:41.020 It was nice to be like, oh, thank God. Whenever 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.500 I saw it, because I've seen myself when we've recorded 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:49.280 remotely where it's like, oh, this needs to be audio only, guys. 0:03:49.460 --> 0:03:54.170 Yeah. You look like you're in a hostage cave somewhere 0:03:54.210 --> 0:03:57.440 or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you looked fine. You looked, 0:03:57.490 --> 0:03:58.730 I think, how people expected. 0:03:58.830 --> 0:04:02.290 Yep, about the way. Yeah, you look great. You look good. 0:04:02.510 --> 0:04:03.490 Too much vaping, though. 0:04:03.570 --> 0:04:05.330 Yeah, there is that. That'll happen. 0:04:05.430 --> 0:04:07.670 No one has said that to me. It's only my own. 0:04:07.690 --> 0:04:08.890 It's in your head entirely. 0:04:08.930 --> 0:04:11.140 I don't think anybody even has a too much or 0:04:11.220 --> 0:04:13.800 not enough vaping judgment for you. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.500 I definitely don't think no one's saying, there's no one 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:17.580 who's saying not enough. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:19.820 It's hard to imagine a not enough-er. 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:20.660 Bump it up. 0:04:20.860 --> 0:04:23.880 But I'm sure, listen, this is America. There's a not 0:04:23.940 --> 0:04:24.740 enough-er out there. 0:04:24.779 --> 0:04:28.669 That's true. There's probably some competitive vapors that are like, 0:04:29.050 --> 0:04:29.469 you're soft. 0:04:29.510 --> 0:04:32.550 God, there's totally competitive vapors that are like, you're soft. 0:04:33.410 --> 0:04:34.830 Oh, well. Yeah. 0:04:34.890 --> 0:04:35.490 What's your bright spot? 0:04:35.830 --> 0:04:40.719 So, on Sunday, I was thrilled to go to the 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:45.440 George Lucas talk show in person at the Den Theater. 0:04:45.540 --> 0:04:45.860 Yeah. 0:04:46.500 --> 0:04:50.839 I've loved that show for a long time. Connor Ratliff, Garrett, 0:04:51.300 --> 0:04:56.479 not Gareth, Griffin, and Patrick, they're just fantastic. I love 0:04:56.500 --> 0:04:56.820 the show. 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:57.760 You got to see Watto. 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:58.780 Got to see Watto. 0:04:58.820 --> 0:04:59.020 Yep. 0:04:59.300 --> 0:05:01.659 Got to see him be introduced to stage as Waito. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:02.540 Because the person. 0:05:04.420 --> 0:05:06.420 And then he had an argument with the guy on 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.440 the God mic about his introduction. Fantastic. Fantastic. Just such 0:05:10.460 --> 0:05:13.880 a great time. Like, it's such stupid shit and so funny. 0:05:15.620 --> 0:05:20.300 I really was like, ah, fuck, I'd love to meet 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.950 these people because I look up to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:05:23.029 --> 0:05:24.930 But I'm just, you know, I'm just a person who 0:05:24.990 --> 0:05:27.550 goes to these shows. Sure. Like, I'm just going to 0:05:27.570 --> 0:05:28.830 the show. I just want to be part of the 0:05:28.890 --> 0:05:29.750 crowd and enjoy this. 0:05:29.770 --> 0:05:31.810 Sometimes you're just going to a show. 0:05:31.870 --> 0:05:35.450 Yeah. So I get there. And I sit in my 0:05:35.510 --> 0:05:37.890 seat like a guy. 0:05:37.940 --> 0:05:38.640 Like a good boy. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:39.240 Yeah. Yeah. 0:05:40.540 --> 0:05:42.140 And it dawns on me that I don't know who 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.520 the guests are for this show. 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:45.039 Uh-oh. 0:05:45.060 --> 0:05:45.300 Right? 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:45.800 Yeah. 0:05:45.860 --> 0:05:48.830 So I have no idea who. I'd never even thought 0:05:48.850 --> 0:05:50.970 about like, okay, they're doing a show in Chicago. Sure. 0:05:51.010 --> 0:05:52.969 Who would likely be their guests? 0:05:52.990 --> 0:05:53.890 Right, right, right, right. 0:05:54.190 --> 0:05:56.970 And so I'm just sitting there twiddling my thumbs. Who 0:05:56.990 --> 0:05:58.480 walks by me but Colt Cabana? 0:05:58.500 --> 0:05:58.620 Yeah. 0:06:00.300 --> 0:06:01.960 Who we kind of know. 0:06:02.140 --> 0:06:05.580 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. We are proximalarily knowing him. 0:06:05.660 --> 0:06:07.660 Yeah, he would recognize me for sure. 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:08.200 Yes, absolutely. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.980 We've spoken at a wedding. We went to a wedding together. 0:06:11.020 --> 0:06:11.979 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.570 So I was like, psst, psst, psst, psst, cult. And 0:06:16.589 --> 0:06:20.589 he did not look. And I felt like the stupidest 0:06:20.610 --> 0:06:23.820 fucking person in the world. Because I probably should have considered, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:24.719 oh yeah, Colt might be a guest on this. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.260 You should have just said hello, yeah. 0:06:26.380 --> 0:06:29.080 No, no. I should have contacted him in advance. Yeah. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:30.620 And then I probably could have met Watto. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:31.960 You could have hung out with them, yeah. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:32.280 Yeah. 0:06:32.380 --> 0:06:32.920 That's a good point. 0:06:33.140 --> 0:06:35.390 So anyway, that didn't happen. But the show was great. 0:06:35.550 --> 0:06:36.190 And it was a lot of fun. 0:06:39.330 --> 0:06:40.890 You're such a quitter sometimes. 0:06:41.050 --> 0:06:41.350 Yeah. 0:06:41.390 --> 0:06:45.180 You just go like, oh, I missed. Hey, cool. Nobody 0:06:45.210 --> 0:06:45.740 would care. 0:06:45.750 --> 0:06:48.760 Right. Yeah. No, I probably could have. And there was 0:06:48.779 --> 0:06:51.120 a part of me that thought about sticking around afterwards 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:51.960 just to say hi. 0:06:51.980 --> 0:06:52.719 Just to say hi. 0:06:52.740 --> 0:06:55.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then just like, I don't want 0:06:55.860 --> 0:06:56.040 to do it. 0:06:56.180 --> 0:06:56.700 It's tough. 0:06:56.860 --> 0:06:57.120 Yeah. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:57.860 It's just not necessary. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.520 It was crowded and it was hopping off the chains 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.310 and what have you. And I just wanted to go home. Meh. 0:07:05.850 --> 0:07:10.170 So anyway, it was a treat and a thrill. George 0:07:10.230 --> 0:07:13.690 Lucas did, I think, five shots of Malort on stage. 0:07:14.030 --> 0:07:17.090 That's too many shots of Malort. Utterly lost control of 0:07:18.150 --> 0:07:19.040 the hosting of the show. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:19.920 Absolutely. 0:07:19.940 --> 0:07:21.100 But it's fantastic. 0:07:21.140 --> 0:07:21.740 I believe you. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.880 So anyway, today we have an episode to go over 0:07:24.900 --> 0:07:27.480 that is not as fantastic as that. 0:07:27.580 --> 0:07:28.520 That's unsurprising. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.620 Yeah. It's an episode of Alex Jones' show. Okay, that's 0:07:31.670 --> 0:07:35.440 no good. We'll be talking about November 14th, 2025. 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:35.750 All right. 0:07:37.030 --> 0:07:41.470 And Epstein stuff continues to be a problem. How? Because 0:07:41.510 --> 0:07:43.470 more stuff is coming out. 0:07:43.590 --> 0:07:47.230 What are we doing? Do something. Shit or get off 0:07:47.270 --> 0:07:49.390 the pot time. I feel like that's where we're at, right? 0:07:49.730 --> 0:07:54.410 And I think that's this interesting stretch that we're in here. 0:07:55.050 --> 0:07:57.450 I'm back to looking at a day at a time again. 0:07:57.810 --> 0:08:00.750 And I think it's because we're in a moment where, like, 0:08:02.010 --> 0:08:02.710 Shit's breaking. 0:08:03.030 --> 0:08:03.210 Yeah. 0:08:03.410 --> 0:08:06.700 And Alex is in a state where he knows he 0:08:06.740 --> 0:08:08.820 has to do something different and he can't. 0:08:08.940 --> 0:08:09.420 Can't do it. 0:08:09.660 --> 0:08:12.800 And I think that's fascinating. Yeah. That's a microscope kind 0:08:12.860 --> 0:08:13.300 of moment. 0:08:13.340 --> 0:08:17.200 Being trapped in a box that you can see is 0:08:17.260 --> 0:08:20.110 very different from being trapped in a box that is clear. 0:08:20.590 --> 0:08:22.650 And it's a box that everyone else can see. 0:08:22.730 --> 0:08:23.210 Yeah. 0:08:23.350 --> 0:08:24.410 And no one can deny. 0:08:24.590 --> 0:08:24.830 Nope. 0:08:25.350 --> 0:08:25.980 It's fucked up. 0:08:26.210 --> 0:08:26.470 Yeah. 0:08:26.610 --> 0:08:29.460 And this episode's a mess, too. So we'll go over 0:08:29.500 --> 0:08:31.840 that here in a second. But first, let's take a 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.360 little moment to say hello to some new wonks. 0:08:33.380 --> 0:08:34.000 Oh, that's a great idea. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.260 So first, since I wasted my shout-out on a joke shout-out, 0:08:37.380 --> 0:08:40.180 say my name, Hentron. Thank you so much. You're now 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:40.620 a policy wonk. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:41.840 I'm a policy wonk. 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:42.580 Thank you very much. 0:08:42.620 --> 0:08:45.679 Thank you. Next, thanks for not listening to the old 0:08:45.750 --> 0:08:48.449 man in the background yelling, say no when I asked 0:08:48.470 --> 0:08:50.010 you to marry me. Thank you so much. You're now 0:08:50.030 --> 0:08:50.470 a policy wonk. 0:08:50.870 --> 0:08:51.750 I'm a policy wonk. 0:08:51.770 --> 0:08:52.830 Thank you very much. 0:08:53.250 --> 0:08:56.070 And stay away from my scat hole. It's full of scat. 0:08:56.130 --> 0:08:57.689 Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. 0:08:58.030 --> 0:08:58.890 I'm a policy wonk. 0:08:58.929 --> 0:09:01.000 Thank you very much. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:03.540 And we had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So 0:09:03.580 --> 0:09:07.240 thank you so much to Ratlegs. You're now a technocrat. 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:08.760 I'm a policy wonk. 0:09:08.900 --> 0:09:11.079 Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her 0:09:11.100 --> 0:09:14.280 you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:14.920 Daddy shark. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.469 Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a 0:09:21.590 --> 0:09:25.610 loser little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. 0:09:25.950 --> 0:09:27.449 I renounce Jesus Christ. 0:09:27.690 --> 0:09:31.170 Jar Jar Binks, notably not at the George Lucas talk show, 0:09:31.190 --> 0:09:34.960 is replaced as sidekick by Watto a number of years back. 0:09:35.130 --> 0:09:37.059 I don't think Chicago likes Jar Jar Binks. 0:09:37.820 --> 0:09:40.760 I think i think there's a huge anti-jar jar sentiment 0:09:40.820 --> 0:09:42.240 in chicago i don't know i. 0:09:42.420 --> 0:09:44.880 Think there's a reclamation of jar jar that's going on 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.660 you think so well they tried to do that with 0:09:46.700 --> 0:09:49.949 the like maybe he was evil all along sure his 0:09:50.030 --> 0:09:52.250 fumbling was an act not gonna happen that was an 0:09:52.290 --> 0:09:55.209 attempt to reclaim yeah and now it's just kind of funny. 0:09:55.230 --> 0:09:56.429 No, he sucks. 0:09:56.770 --> 0:09:57.330 The end. 0:09:57.550 --> 0:10:00.530 You can't reclaim him. I've watched people try and reclaim 0:10:00.670 --> 0:10:01.890 so much shit lately. 0:10:02.230 --> 0:10:05.120 I saw somebody just published a thing about mall rats 0:10:05.170 --> 0:10:06.620 trying to reclaim that shit. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.559 Fuck off. Get out of here. Leave that shit in 0:10:09.580 --> 0:10:11.600 the 90s. Yeah. 0:10:11.900 --> 0:10:15.800 I was listening to an episode of Scott Aukerman's podcast. Yeah. 0:10:15.820 --> 0:10:16.500 Scott hasn't seen. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:16.980 Yeah. 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.180 Chris Gethard was on and they were talking about mall rats. 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:19.439 Mm-hmm. 0:10:19.980 --> 0:10:21.820 And it made me reflect on how much of that 0:10:21.860 --> 0:10:27.060 shit was just fucking street jokes. Yep. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:28.000 Yep. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.200 100%. I don't know how much of that was even original. 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:31.059 Nope. 0:10:31.100 --> 0:10:32.980 I mean, it was so. 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.340 I get why people think it's funny, but those are 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:35.980 street jokes. 0:10:36.020 --> 0:10:39.000 Those are... God damn it. Oh, comedy sucks. 0:10:39.540 --> 0:10:39.800 Yeah. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:40.620 So does Alex. 0:10:40.940 --> 0:10:41.100 Mm-hmm. 0:10:41.540 --> 0:10:42.179 And Epstein. 0:10:42.500 --> 0:10:42.760 Yep. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.440 So look, shit's bad. Yeah. At this point. All right. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.800 Everything is a total mess. And there are more Epstein 0:10:50.059 --> 0:10:53.520 stories and emails and things that are coming out. Sure. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:58.210 You know, there's articles about Epstein emailing with people about 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.520 talking to the Russians about Trump. 0:11:00.830 --> 0:11:01.070 Sure. 0:11:01.090 --> 0:11:01.570 Yeah. 0:11:03.350 --> 0:11:06.330 Emails between Epstein and his brother about whether or not 0:11:06.370 --> 0:11:09.570 Putin has a video of Trump blowing Bubba. 0:11:09.870 --> 0:11:10.170 Right. 0:11:10.330 --> 0:11:12.770 Which he clarified later isn't Clinton. 0:11:13.380 --> 0:11:17.180 Okay, yeah, well, I mean, that would be an explosive video. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:17.680 Yeah. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.020 And not a little hot. 0:11:20.460 --> 0:11:22.579 Well, I think it's the kind of thing you would 0:11:22.620 --> 0:11:27.610 deflect from with a piss tape rumor. No, I just, 0:11:27.970 --> 0:11:30.350 it's all bad. I don't know what any of this 0:11:30.370 --> 0:11:34.600 shit means. I'm not trying to fully, you know, forensically 0:11:34.650 --> 0:11:36.540 get to the bottom of everything. I think a lot 0:11:36.580 --> 0:11:41.160 of it, especially when we're recording right now, is unknowable stuff. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.439 And so like, I just think it looks bad. I 0:11:44.460 --> 0:11:45.560 think it all looks really bad. 0:11:46.110 --> 0:11:48.410 I like this because it feels like. 0:11:48.290 --> 0:11:52.609 We're an inverse of where it's been for the longest time, right? 0:11:52.929 --> 0:11:58.089 Where we really had, okay, so people were taking details 0:11:58.210 --> 0:12:01.110 and trying to find out the larger picture through details. 0:12:01.170 --> 0:12:03.329 And now I feel like we know the larger. 0:12:03.030 --> 0:12:06.329 Picture is we fucked up. Just like pure and simple, 0:12:06.490 --> 0:12:09.309 we fucked up. We got to do something. But all 0:12:09.350 --> 0:12:11.069 these details, they're unknowable. 0:12:11.610 --> 0:12:13.990 They're unknowable. You'll never know. It's crazy. 0:12:14.330 --> 0:12:14.610 Yeah. 0:12:15.100 --> 0:12:17.220 And I think that also for a long time we've been, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.300 I think a lot of people have been under the 0:12:20.340 --> 0:12:24.620 impression that Trump's support and the base that he has 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:30.620 is unstoppable. Like there is some power to their hatred 0:12:30.700 --> 0:12:35.220 that all comes together and it's not going to eat itself. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.840 And we are now seeing like, oh, there's a point 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.020 where they're going to eat themselves. 0:12:39.140 --> 0:12:39.380 Yeah. 0:12:39.730 --> 0:12:43.410 It doesn't mean that it's not all still very dangerous. Sure. 0:12:43.940 --> 0:12:46.940 You know, like power is going to restore to normal 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.610 in a couple months or whatever. But like, he's not 0:12:50.660 --> 0:12:53.490 as invincible as he had appeared to be. 0:12:53.570 --> 0:12:54.470 Right, right, right. 0:12:54.610 --> 0:12:57.290 Yeah, you know, for his quote, you know, he could 0:12:57.309 --> 0:12:59.670 shoot a man and people would still support him. But 0:12:59.710 --> 0:13:02.460 he couldn't kiss a man and have people still support him. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.540 So there are definite weak spots. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:05.680 Yeah, yeah. 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:09.200 And I think that he could shoot someone, but he 0:13:09.220 --> 0:13:10.640 couldn't stab someone. 0:13:10.980 --> 0:13:11.200 Right. 0:13:11.780 --> 0:13:14.940 Like, because the gun enthusiasts would put him over the 0:13:15.140 --> 0:13:17.650 edge for supporting him even if he shot somebody. 0:13:17.690 --> 0:13:18.430 Even if he shot somebody. 0:13:18.450 --> 0:13:20.710 But if he stabbed someone, he wouldn't have their support. 0:13:20.730 --> 0:13:21.750 Not enough knife people. 0:13:21.870 --> 0:13:22.110 Yeah. 0:13:22.170 --> 0:13:22.410 Yeah. 0:13:22.750 --> 0:13:24.260 Alex has a new knife he's selling, by the way. 0:13:24.270 --> 0:13:27.520 Well, then there's more knife people than I would probably prefer. 0:13:27.540 --> 0:13:29.240 You know, when you're talking about knife people. 0:13:29.300 --> 0:13:29.959 Yeah. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:31.680 You're dealing with a Texan, bitch. 0:13:32.660 --> 0:13:34.819 There's an out of context drop. All right. I like it. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:39.180 So we start off the show and Alex, I think, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.760 you know, he wakes up in the morning and he 0:13:41.850 --> 0:13:42.559 sees like. 0:13:44.050 --> 0:13:46.870 His face or just the world or just what has 0:13:46.929 --> 0:13:47.770 happened to him. 0:13:47.929 --> 0:13:48.929 Like his soul. 0:13:49.130 --> 0:13:51.340 It feels bad. Yeah. And he sees these headlines. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:51.620 Yeah. 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.640 And he's like, fucking hell, it's going to be a 0:13:54.660 --> 0:13:55.100 big show. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.970 Oh, my gosh. I start almost every broadcast by saying 0:14:00.030 --> 0:14:01.609 all hell's breaking loose because it is. 0:14:01.650 --> 0:14:05.390 The quickening's here. But this broadcast is going to be insane. 0:14:05.410 --> 0:14:11.120 Oh, my goodness. InfoWars. Tomorrow's news today. 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:12.580 I am seeking the truth. 0:14:14.140 --> 0:14:14.620 Nothing more. 0:14:15.500 --> 0:14:17.500 And I 100% call what. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:18.819 Was going to happen with the Epstein stuff. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:19.800 What? 0:14:19.820 --> 0:14:20.980 It was going to be a disaster. 0:14:21.380 --> 0:14:21.800 What? 0:14:21.900 --> 0:14:25.530 In the last 10 months when the clear cover-up began. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.800 By this administration it's kind of true that's kind of 0:14:30.900 --> 0:14:34.700 true i understand he did tell trump that he needs 0:14:34.740 --> 0:14:35.600 to just shut. 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:40.340 Up i understand the spirit of the law yeah yeah. 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.760 He did not predict like where things were going and 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.210 everything but he did give better advice to trump than 0:14:46.230 --> 0:14:46.780 whatever he. 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:51.390 Got that's fair that's fair i will admit that anything 0:14:51.450 --> 0:14:53.360 else though I mean, come on. 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:53.700 No. 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:54.540 Come on, man. 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:59.070 But every day now is the most important thing ever. 0:14:59.630 --> 0:15:01.270 This show is going to be fucking insane. 0:15:01.470 --> 0:15:05.630 Yeah, I feel like if you're InfoWars, you really can't. 0:15:05.670 --> 0:15:07.430 You know, like if you're a late night show, if 0:15:07.450 --> 0:15:09.650 you're the late night show with Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, we 0:15:09.700 --> 0:15:11.239 got a great show tonight. You got a great show 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:12.520 every night because you're a late night show. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:12.960 That's fine. 0:15:13.260 --> 0:15:17.060 But if you're InfoWars, you can't have an incredible broadcast 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.380 because an incredible broadcast means there's no broadcast tomorrow. 0:15:20.420 --> 0:15:20.720 Do you know? 0:15:21.340 --> 0:15:23.020 Right. You know what I mean? Like if it's that 0:15:23.090 --> 0:15:25.750 big of a deal, that's because the world is ending. 0:15:25.970 --> 0:15:28.330 Yeah. And if you're doing a late night show, you 0:15:28.350 --> 0:15:31.050 can't have the best and funniest show every night. 0:15:31.170 --> 0:15:31.390 Right. 0:15:31.890 --> 0:15:34.850 But it has to be good because it's. Really, it 0:15:34.890 --> 0:15:37.070 exists as PR for whoever your guests are. 0:15:37.110 --> 0:15:37.770 Yeah, it really does. 0:15:37.790 --> 0:15:39.230 And that doesn't exist with Alex, really. 0:15:39.270 --> 0:15:42.550 No, no, not anymore. There's really no PR to be gained. 0:15:42.650 --> 0:15:42.790 Nope. 0:15:43.510 --> 0:15:46.120 We do get Roger later, though. Hey! So get excited. 0:15:46.130 --> 0:15:46.510 All right. 0:15:46.770 --> 0:15:51.140 So Trump is really, really innocent, except the guilty stuff. Sure. 0:15:51.620 --> 0:15:56.380 And I knew why Trump was joining the cover-up, and 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.110 it's because it's all these lawsuits and all these criminal cases, 0:16:00.190 --> 0:16:02.530 and most of it's innuendo, and it's an old case. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:07.740 And it implicates a bunch of high-powered people. And the 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:09.840 CIA came to him and said, it's Mossad with us. 0:16:10.020 --> 0:16:17.070 We need to just shut this down. And Trump knew 0:16:17.130 --> 0:16:19.490 surely that 90-plus percent of the people with Epstein are 0:16:19.510 --> 0:16:23.330 high-powered Democrats. And so he kind of wink-wink made the deal. 0:16:26.270 --> 0:16:30.600 And then the Clintons and all of them turned around 0:16:31.530 --> 0:16:34.650 and they've been cherry-picking and selecting stuff to put out 0:16:34.670 --> 0:16:35.510 to implicate Trump. 0:16:36.990 --> 0:16:37.310 Okay. 0:16:37.390 --> 0:16:40.410 And it is a hoax that he's done something illegal 0:16:40.430 --> 0:16:43.380 with Epstein. There is no evidence. They would have already 0:16:43.430 --> 0:16:46.060 used it, plus the witnesses, the victims, I mean, all 0:16:46.100 --> 0:16:50.420 of it. But then Trump stepped into the cover-up and 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.480 became guilty by association. 0:16:52.940 --> 0:16:58.960 Yep. I mean, you don't wink-wink go along with sex-trafficking conspiracies. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.920 You don't cover up that stuff up on a wink. 0:17:02.460 --> 0:17:07.490 I am confused because he's making his tone is saying 0:17:07.590 --> 0:17:10.389 one thing, but I'm feeling like those words are actually 0:17:10.430 --> 0:17:11.290 a closing argument. 0:17:12.150 --> 0:17:14.170 He's guilty. Isn't that what you just said? 0:17:14.710 --> 0:17:14.930 Yeah. 0:17:15.210 --> 0:17:17.970 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess if the best thing 0:17:18.010 --> 0:17:21.619 you can do to excuse like a Trump didn't he's 0:17:21.660 --> 0:17:24.359 not on any of these tapes. Right. But he is 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.860 covering it up because I mean, wink, wink. You know, 0:17:27.100 --> 0:17:28.180 they they they. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.719 Don't they don't like a super guilty. 0:17:30.900 --> 0:17:33.610 OK, we've got the murderer and we've got the guy 0:17:33.650 --> 0:17:36.030 who covered up the murder. But because the guy who 0:17:36.070 --> 0:17:38.469 covered up the murder didn't kill the guy, he gets 0:17:38.490 --> 0:17:39.990 to go away free. That's not how that goes. 0:17:40.250 --> 0:17:43.630 Well, I mean, they're technically different crimes, but they definitely 0:17:43.670 --> 0:17:44.470 are both crimes. 0:17:44.530 --> 0:17:47.420 They're both crimes. Yeah, I get that. Maybe we don't 0:17:47.619 --> 0:17:48.680 punish them equally. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.600 And generally, when you're helping cover up a murder, it's 0:17:51.660 --> 0:17:53.500 because you want the people who did the murder to 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:54.879 not get in trouble for the murder. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.359 Yeah, usually that's a big part of it. 0:17:57.380 --> 0:18:01.940 You have an investment somehow emotionally or financially with the 0:18:01.980 --> 0:18:03.000 person who did the murder. 0:18:03.380 --> 0:18:05.350 And in fact, many people say that the cover-up is 0:18:05.380 --> 0:18:06.139 worse than the crime. 0:18:06.369 --> 0:18:06.609 Sure. 0:18:06.770 --> 0:18:08.540 So you should have murdered that guy. 0:18:08.590 --> 0:18:10.730 I think the Republicans said that when they were trying 0:18:10.770 --> 0:18:11.609 to impeach Clinton. 0:18:11.630 --> 0:18:13.250 I think they did. 0:18:13.770 --> 0:18:18.000 So Epstein... All this stuff with Trump, it's just fucking innuendo. 0:18:18.060 --> 0:18:18.179 It is. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.180 It's just wink-wink stuff, you know? Sure. Nein! 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:21.400 Nein! 0:18:25.420 --> 0:18:27.020 Globalists will not destroy our republic. 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.320 We will overpower them. 0:18:28.340 --> 0:18:31.210 We are with sheer truth, information, and will. 0:18:31.230 --> 0:18:32.730 Nein! Nein! 0:18:34.330 --> 0:18:36.949 All right. 0:18:40.390 --> 0:18:43.949 Nein! Here's the big news today. We're covering it all. 0:18:44.750 --> 0:18:45.410 Massive gas. 0:18:45.450 --> 0:18:57.609 So much more today. The Epstein thing has. Come to the. 0:18:59.450 --> 0:19:00.510 Peak so far. 0:19:01.070 --> 0:19:02.430 So far. 0:19:02.530 --> 0:19:07.230 It's importance. And exactly what I knew was in there 0:19:07.350 --> 0:19:07.850 is in there. 0:19:08.790 --> 0:19:09.430 And also more. 0:19:09.450 --> 0:19:15.730 Already been out. It's all complete innuendo and crap. And 0:19:15.970 --> 0:19:18.840 so Trump is going after the Clintons and everybody and saying, fine, 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.280 open the whole damn thing up, even though it's going 0:19:21.300 --> 0:19:24.610 to destroy the economy. And I'm not sure it is, 0:19:24.690 --> 0:19:26.250 but it's going to be really bad. 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.260 It's weird how much it feels like Alex is trying 0:19:29.300 --> 0:19:32.220 to argue against releasing the files, but doing it in 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.160 this like shitty indirect way. 0:19:34.300 --> 0:19:34.540 Yeah. 0:19:34.859 --> 0:19:37.219 It's like he's warning about some horrible thing that's going 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.980 to happen if these files are released, which is definitely 0:19:40.070 --> 0:19:43.490 not what you would expect from the champion against corruption. 0:19:44.170 --> 0:19:46.150 And the guy who's got all the documents and like, 0:19:46.450 --> 0:19:48.050 you know, it's just not him. 0:19:48.390 --> 0:19:48.650 Yeah. 0:19:48.710 --> 0:19:51.520 It's not the guy he. has pretended to be. 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.380 Here's the other problem, right? 0:19:53.900 --> 0:19:58.280 If the goal is, as he's saying, like to keep 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.920 people from focusing on this, then. 0:20:02.700 --> 0:20:05.699 The way for Alex to keep people from focusing on 0:20:05.740 --> 0:20:09.140 this is to take it too seriously, right? When Alex 0:20:09.180 --> 0:20:12.690 takes it seriously, everybody laughs at him. And they go, ha, ha, ha, 0:20:12.970 --> 0:20:15.670 you're an idiot. And so they stop paying attention to it, right? 0:20:15.690 --> 0:20:18.570 Sure. We definitely figured out all of the ins and 0:20:18.630 --> 0:20:23.340 outs of 9-11 that he covered very seriously for so long. Totally. 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:23.800 Totally. 0:20:24.100 --> 0:20:27.389 For him to be like, hey guys, he's just really cool, 0:20:27.690 --> 0:20:29.669 only makes it the most suspicious thing that you could 0:20:29.710 --> 0:20:30.689 ever possibly imagine. 0:20:30.770 --> 0:20:34.369 Yeah, when Mr. Suspicious is like, hey, it'd be bad 0:20:34.410 --> 0:20:39.140 if something happened to your economy if you released these files. No, 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.399 you're the suspicious guy. You're not supposed to be doing this. 0:20:41.420 --> 0:20:42.140 That's suspicious. 0:20:42.180 --> 0:20:44.440 You're the one doing crap. You're wearing a trench coat 0:20:44.500 --> 0:20:46.780 and a balaclava. I don't even know how that works. 0:20:46.820 --> 0:20:51.709 Yeah, you're shady as shit, dude. So, the globalists... What 0:20:51.750 --> 0:20:55.470 they're trying to do is cause a civil war within 0:20:55.990 --> 0:20:58.470 the MAGA world. Sure. And, man, it's working. 0:20:58.609 --> 0:20:58.929 Okay. 0:20:59.330 --> 0:21:00.890 It's night and day how much good we're getting done, 0:21:00.930 --> 0:21:03.949 but it's still not enough. And I've been saying this. 0:21:03.970 --> 0:21:05.689 They're going to try to crash the economy. They're going 0:21:05.710 --> 0:21:07.330 to try to get riots going, because that's the Podesta plan. 0:21:07.710 --> 0:21:10.590 And they're going to bring this Epstein thing out. They're 0:21:10.609 --> 0:21:13.250 going to try to create a MAGA civil war. That 0:21:13.290 --> 0:21:17.450 created the cracks 10 months ago. Then Gaza peaking and 0:21:17.790 --> 0:21:22.820 the Israel lobby obnoxiously... saying censor everybody, take everybody off 0:21:22.859 --> 0:21:25.340 the air, shut up everybody from Tucker Carlson to Alex 0:21:25.380 --> 0:21:28.520 Jones to Nick Fuentes. All of that has been done. 0:21:28.580 --> 0:21:31.879 That's caused a big rift, and it's now Civil War MAGA. 0:21:32.300 --> 0:21:36.359 And real pollsters that I respect who've been right 99% 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.659 of the time, like Martin Mitchell, has been hitting the 0:21:38.700 --> 0:21:40.939 panic button for a few months, and now you see 0:21:40.980 --> 0:21:44.370 it everywhere, and he predicted all this, and people go, oh, 0:21:44.430 --> 0:21:48.190 he's just a panicking. No, it's good when Trump's doing 0:21:48.250 --> 0:21:49.990 wrong and stepping in it. Wait. 0:21:51.730 --> 0:21:52.610 To say stop that. 0:21:53.070 --> 0:21:55.369 So it's crazy because what Alex is saying here is 0:21:55.430 --> 0:21:58.570 exactly what I said at the time. But no shadowy 0:21:58.609 --> 0:22:01.590 globalists are trying to cause a civil war. The Trump 0:22:01.650 --> 0:22:05.330 fan base is an internally hostile coalition, and it's one 0:22:05.369 --> 0:22:09.060 that can't hold under pressure. Alex is correctly identifying the 0:22:09.140 --> 0:22:11.919 two biggest inflection points in the past months in the 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.100 form of the bombing of Iran and the entire Epstein debacle. 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.320 But his description of them and his desperation to blame 0:22:18.380 --> 0:22:22.119 someone else for them being splinter points is wrong. Trump's 0:22:22.170 --> 0:22:25.080 base is full of a ton of hyper-motivated idiots and 0:22:25.180 --> 0:22:29.440 outright bigots who don't have compatible priorities. It's not a 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.160 problem when you're all just making memes and laughing about 0:22:32.180 --> 0:22:34.830 how triggered the libs are, but when you seize pretty 0:22:34.869 --> 0:22:37.370 much all the power in the country, there's nowhere left 0:22:37.390 --> 0:22:41.510 to hide. Trump's actions haven't matched what parts of his 0:22:41.550 --> 0:22:44.379 base wanted to believe about him, and it's going to 0:22:44.450 --> 0:22:46.640 lose him certain groups in a way that he probably 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.500 can't win back. Legit Nazis, as well as whatever part 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.619 of the right wing exists that actually just has a 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:56.520 problem with Israel, know that he's not their guy. Anyone 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.340 whose brand relies on them being against the elites and 0:22:59.380 --> 0:23:02.879 a two-tiered justice system, or even just not liking child 0:23:02.900 --> 0:23:06.060 sex traffickers, now knows that Trump is not their guy. 0:23:06.940 --> 0:23:10.070 Without these two factions, Trump probably doesn't have that much 0:23:10.130 --> 0:23:13.109 gas left in the tank. He's lost the most active 0:23:13.150 --> 0:23:15.369 of the bigots and any conspiracy types who have an 0:23:15.710 --> 0:23:18.609 even tiny attention span. And that's a lot of the 0:23:18.710 --> 0:23:22.190 online influencers that the movement relies on to distract people 0:23:22.730 --> 0:23:27.230 and to spam posts of liberals crying or whatever. At 0:23:27.290 --> 0:23:30.210 this point, the smart thing to do is leave Trump 0:23:30.250 --> 0:23:32.970 for dead. And it's fascinating that Alex isn't moving on. 0:23:33.650 --> 0:23:35.770 The only two explanations I can really come up for 0:23:35.810 --> 0:23:40.760 this non-motion is one, Roger has something on Alex. Or two, 0:23:41.060 --> 0:23:46.270 Alex knows that his primary brand is anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim incitement, 0:23:46.550 --> 0:23:48.810 and Trump hasn't violated that brand yet. 0:23:48.950 --> 0:23:49.390 That's true. 0:23:49.830 --> 0:23:53.050 Alex doesn't fundamentally hate Jewish people, and his whole thing 0:23:53.090 --> 0:23:55.650 about fighting the globalist cabal, that's been an act from 0:23:55.690 --> 0:23:58.360 the beginning. So Trump kind of hasn't shit in his 0:23:58.430 --> 0:23:58.980 mouth yet. 0:23:59.220 --> 0:23:59.560 Right. 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:01.640 He's seeing him shit in everyone else's mouth. 0:24:01.660 --> 0:24:02.720 Right, right, right, right. 0:24:02.740 --> 0:24:04.720 But he thinks he's safe. 0:24:04.940 --> 0:24:09.760 He's funneling shit like a fucking. 0:24:11.540 --> 0:24:13.129 pneumatic tube at a bank. 0:24:13.730 --> 0:24:16.990 Yes. And Alex has to know he's coming up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:24:17.050 --> 0:24:17.730 It's going to happen. 0:24:17.770 --> 0:24:20.190 But he's never actually gotten hit in the face with it. 0:24:20.350 --> 0:24:20.790 Yeah. 0:24:20.830 --> 0:24:21.530 Yeah, that's fair. 0:24:22.150 --> 0:24:24.520 I don't know why Alex is doing this. I don't 0:24:24.540 --> 0:24:27.720 know what the calculation is. You know, like, But whatever 0:24:27.780 --> 0:24:30.220 it is, he's got to move on. This sucks. 0:24:30.460 --> 0:24:32.699 I don't know. Are we okay? 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:37.639 I understand that time is tough to process, but are 0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.800 we all just overreacting? Like a year from now, can't 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.080 they just say like, eh, none of this happened? You know, 0:24:43.100 --> 0:24:45.240 like they're not going to be gone in a year. 0:24:45.260 --> 0:24:45.680 Mm-hmm. 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:46.180 Right. 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.680 So they just got to push through, have a bad year. 0:24:49.150 --> 0:24:51.050 And then everybody will be like, oh, we got him, 0:24:51.070 --> 0:24:53.170 didn't we? And then when they didn't, they'll be like, ah, 0:24:53.210 --> 0:24:53.850 we got to move on. 0:24:54.030 --> 0:24:56.570 No, because within the next year, there's going to be 0:24:56.630 --> 0:24:59.010 midterm elections. And like, sure. 0:24:59.030 --> 0:25:04.040 I mean, you're overthrowing the government, you know, like I 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:04.470 get it. 0:25:04.500 --> 0:25:06.480 Look, I'm not I'm not talking about like the power 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:07.080 of electoral. 0:25:07.140 --> 0:25:07.420 Sure. 0:25:07.500 --> 0:25:10.940 I'm talking about every one of these campaigns being a 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:16.470 possibility to like. publicly attack someone as you supported the 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.780 guy who's covering up Epstein or you work for Israel 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:23.359 or there's a lot of ugliness. Sure. That gets into 0:25:23.380 --> 0:25:24.960 the like public conversation. 0:25:25.020 --> 0:25:25.240 Sure. 0:25:25.380 --> 0:25:26.399 So I don't think you can hide. 0:25:26.420 --> 0:25:30.290 I mean, is that, isn't that the other, isn't that 0:25:30.330 --> 0:25:32.230 the thing is like, do we even have to hide? 0:25:32.250 --> 0:25:35.090 Do we just need to endure? You know, like if I'm, 0:25:35.270 --> 0:25:37.050 if I'm Trump and all these guys, they might just 0:25:37.070 --> 0:25:41.150 go and like, Hey, Just fucking endure it and they'll 0:25:41.190 --> 0:25:41.910 lose focus. 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:49.020 I think there's too much on them to endure. I 0:25:49.060 --> 0:25:54.220 think everybody should try their best to endure. Everyone at home. Just. 0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.100 Keep your chin up. We're going to endure. 0:25:57.300 --> 0:25:57.520 Yeah. 0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.800 Right. But I don't think politically that's a viable strategy 0:26:02.020 --> 0:26:02.920 for Trump himself. 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:03.280 All right. 0:26:03.540 --> 0:26:06.400 Maybe for J.D. Vance or something. Sure. I think he 0:26:06.420 --> 0:26:06.869 could do a. 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.240 Keep your head down, let all the shit land on 0:26:09.310 --> 0:26:10.930 his face, and then wear an umbrella. 0:26:10.990 --> 0:26:11.570 That kind of thing. 0:26:11.609 --> 0:26:13.950 I think he could do a brand refresh in some way. 0:26:14.090 --> 0:26:14.390 All right. 0:26:14.510 --> 0:26:18.119 Yeah. I think for Trump, you got to just... Leave him. 0:26:18.619 --> 0:26:21.699 I mean, we've got damn it. We've said it before. 0:26:22.380 --> 0:26:23.370 It breaks my heart. 0:26:23.570 --> 0:26:25.710 You know, when like on the challenge, they've had like 0:26:25.890 --> 0:26:29.710 team finals that they've run and somebody just can't make it. 0:26:30.670 --> 0:26:31.570 You got to leave him behind. 0:26:31.590 --> 0:26:32.149 Yeah. 0:26:32.650 --> 0:26:33.490 Then you get DQ'd. 0:26:33.970 --> 0:26:34.439 Can't do it. 0:26:34.790 --> 0:26:37.169 Anyway, Megyn Kelly. Yeah. You remember her? 0:26:37.670 --> 0:26:39.860 I do remember her. Is she alive? 0:26:40.300 --> 0:26:47.880 She is, and she is quite, like, she's branded differently now. 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:51.310 She's a bit more hardcore right. 0:26:51.750 --> 0:26:53.850 Oh, she went more Nazi. 0:26:54.350 --> 0:26:56.990 I thought she would pull back and go, like, lifestyle advisor. 0:26:57.350 --> 0:26:58.500 But no, she's gone full MTG. 0:27:00.070 --> 0:27:00.410 All right. 0:27:00.650 --> 0:27:00.910 Fun. 0:27:01.410 --> 0:27:04.310 Yeah. So a number of years back, she came to 0:27:04.450 --> 0:27:06.060 Austin and interviewed Alex. 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:06.389 Yes. 0:27:06.630 --> 0:27:09.659 Which ended up being part of the reason that they 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.540 were able to get the Sandy Hook lawsuits going. 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:13.260 It really was. 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.780 And I think he, you know, he's always insinuated a 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.060 bunch of stuff about her. Sure. About how she wanted 0:27:20.100 --> 0:27:23.240 to fuck. Well. And so he talks about that a 0:27:23.260 --> 0:27:23.800 little bit here. 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.560 Megyn Kelly and others have said it's clear they're trying 0:27:26.580 --> 0:27:29.200 to hype things up to get Tucker killed. Now they're 0:27:29.220 --> 0:27:37.340 attacking her. We'll get to all that. And look, Megyn 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:38.420 Kelly is an opportunist. 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:39.030 She's a lawyer. 0:27:39.910 --> 0:27:43.270 Very smart woman. She's basically on our side now. And 0:27:43.290 --> 0:27:45.090 if we ever start losing, she'll jump back to the 0:27:45.130 --> 0:27:47.710 other side. It's what she does. But she's emblematic of 0:27:47.750 --> 0:27:51.690 the fact, I mean, Andrew Cuomo tries to sound like us, Fredo. 0:27:52.230 --> 0:27:56.260 They all do because- Tucker does. We're the winners. We're 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.550 winning worldwide. But good, come on over, Megan. 0:27:59.830 --> 0:28:00.530 Come over fully. 0:28:00.730 --> 0:28:02.790 She says nice things about me now. Good. 0:28:03.609 --> 0:28:07.790 I'm not going to turn my back on you. Certainly 0:28:07.830 --> 0:28:11.570 not going to have dessert with you. I'm coming to town. 0:28:11.590 --> 0:28:13.600 I'm going to eat with you and have dessert. I 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:14.960 was just like, come. 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:15.020 On, lady. 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:16.020 That means penis. 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.420 Literally sounded like a sex operative on the phone. I said, 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:20.860 I don't usually record people. I went and found another 0:28:20.900 --> 0:28:22.500 company phone. I said, let me call you right back. 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:25.080 I'm just like, bloop. 0:28:25.310 --> 0:28:25.590 Bad. 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.200 But I mean, what people will do for their $ 50 0:28:29.500 --> 0:28:31.120 million a year salaries or whatever it was. 0:28:31.550 --> 0:28:32.440 They'll fuck me. 0:28:33.090 --> 0:28:37.909 NBC host, Total Devil, now that she's selling to the 0:28:37.930 --> 0:28:41.650 general public, it's pretty accurate, good information. But that's what 0:28:41.670 --> 0:28:42.230 it is to win. 0:28:42.270 --> 0:28:43.930 That is what it is to win. 0:28:43.950 --> 0:28:44.630 When people that were. 0:28:44.570 --> 0:28:46.990 Previously mercenaries join us, it's a sign of our victory. 0:28:47.010 --> 0:28:49.730 Don't be mad at her. Just don't turn your. 0:28:49.630 --> 0:28:56.450 Back on her. So, you're a little too skinny for me, honey. Wild. 0:28:56.530 --> 0:28:56.630 Huh. 0:28:57.940 --> 0:28:59.060 Wild existence. 0:29:00.660 --> 0:29:01.700 Getting serious. I apologize. 0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.000 I was trying to say nice things and I was 0:29:03.020 --> 0:29:03.420 just mean. 0:29:03.660 --> 0:29:04.160 It's what I do. 0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:05.140 I'm just, I'm real. 0:29:05.380 --> 0:29:06.020 I just can't help it. 0:29:06.340 --> 0:29:07.280 It's too real. 0:29:08.020 --> 0:29:09.040 That's so real. 0:29:09.220 --> 0:29:12.500 Is that what he was being? Yeah. That fictional story. 0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:13.880 He likes a thick lady. 0:29:13.900 --> 0:29:17.480 About a woman who has a $ 50. 0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:20.400 Million contract, but the inability to negotiate beyond, you gotta 0:29:20.420 --> 0:29:21.570 fuck Alex sometimes. 0:29:21.810 --> 0:29:22.070 Mm-hmm. 0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:23.230 Yeah, well, that'll happen. 0:29:23.570 --> 0:29:25.850 And, I mean, go back to that interview. That is 0:29:25.930 --> 0:29:30.450 Alex at his thick neck-est. Yeah, of his life. But like, 0:29:30.870 --> 0:29:34.780 I think there's something really like I think I've probably 0:29:34.900 --> 0:29:38.980 had exchanges with people in my life where like they've said, hey, 0:29:39.020 --> 0:29:39.780 let's get dessert. 0:29:40.070 --> 0:29:40.220 Yeah. 0:29:40.620 --> 0:29:42.440 And I really don't think they're trying to fuck me. 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:42.900 No. 0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.540 I think Alex is the kind of person who would 0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.620 read that into every single exchange he has. 0:29:49.740 --> 0:29:52.060 Yeah, I can't imagine. 0:29:52.740 --> 0:29:55.500 Like, that seems like a very TV and movie kind 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.960 of innuendo. I don't think anybody's ever been like, hey, 0:29:57.980 --> 0:30:00.830 do you want dessert in real life? They're more likely 0:30:00.870 --> 0:30:02.190 to be like, can we have sex now? 0:30:02.570 --> 0:30:04.570 For God's sakes. You're taking too long. 0:30:04.850 --> 0:30:08.550 Yeah. I just I don't think that she was trying 0:30:08.590 --> 0:30:09.180 to honeypot him. 0:30:09.250 --> 0:30:11.330 Yeah, I would strongly suggest she was not. 0:30:11.430 --> 0:30:15.630 It's funny, though. It's funny. I mean, so it's interesting 0:30:15.670 --> 0:30:17.620 the way that Alex deals with the idea of an 0:30:17.730 --> 0:30:21.240 opportunist agreeing with him because it's a classic glass half 0:30:21.300 --> 0:30:24.700 full glass half empty kind of situation. You could say 0:30:24.740 --> 0:30:26.640 that your side are the winners. So the fact that 0:30:26.740 --> 0:30:29.080 an opportunist would be agreeing with you means that they're 0:30:29.100 --> 0:30:31.170 trying to be on the right side. But at the 0:30:31.210 --> 0:30:33.800 same time, you could say that Megyn Kelly never believed 0:30:33.820 --> 0:30:36.000 the shit she was saying in the past. She was 0:30:36.100 --> 0:30:38.320 just an opportunist taking a paycheck to say what her 0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.160 boss wanted her to. So why is there any reason 0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.020 to think that's not what she's doing now? 0:30:43.140 --> 0:30:43.300 Right. 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:48.910 You're just the side that has some billionaire establishment shit. Right. 0:30:49.730 --> 0:30:50.650 behind it right. 0:30:50.550 --> 0:30:54.090 Yeah no it's like that it's the problem with the 0:30:54.150 --> 0:30:58.170 double agent right i can't trust you i know you're 0:30:58.210 --> 0:31:00.790 working for me right now but you could not be 0:31:00.850 --> 0:31:03.650 working for me i don't know you gotta go anything. 0:31:03.430 --> 0:31:06.830 Over single agent yeah is as believable yeah triple agents 0:31:06.910 --> 0:31:07.610 as believable as. 0:31:07.770 --> 0:31:10.930 Exactly yeah there's simply no more ability to trust you 0:31:10.970 --> 0:31:13.850 so the smarter move is to just not be around. 0:31:13.570 --> 0:31:16.670 You yeah a double agent in theory is the same 0:31:17.130 --> 0:31:19.830 as a quadruple agent right Exactly. 0:31:20.310 --> 0:31:21.810 We can do fractions all night. 0:31:21.970 --> 0:31:25.760 Yeah. So Roger's going to be popping in. Sure. Give 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.060 us a little Epstein info a little bit later. I 0:31:28.210 --> 0:31:30.960 like it. Spoiler alert, just to not get your hopes up. 0:31:31.180 --> 0:31:34.200 Everybody was great. Everybody did everything legally and lawfully. It 0:31:34.220 --> 0:31:37.100 was actually super really nice to people. Yeah, that's crazy. 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.280 But Roger Stone's on later. He's one of the sources. 0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:44.100 And he said, I could talk about this a few 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:49.680 months ago, but reluctantly. And I'll press him on it today, 0:31:49.740 --> 0:31:52.180 but he told me when Trump was president-elect, he said, 0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.050 you're not going to get the Epstein stuff. It's CIA 0:31:54.110 --> 0:31:56.430 and Assad. You know that because it's going to be 0:31:56.450 --> 0:32:00.750 covered up. Plus, they've cherry-picked and they've had to buy 0:32:00.930 --> 0:32:04.530 a bunch of recycled crap. And I talked to FBI sources. 0:32:04.550 --> 0:32:06.130 They said, yeah, that's what it is. And so Trump 0:32:06.170 --> 0:32:08.680 heard that. He was like, OK, yeah, no, no, we're done. 0:32:09.340 --> 0:32:11.220 There's none of the real meat and potatoes in there. 0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.020 But we know the people. We know who the women 0:32:14.100 --> 0:32:19.680 say are. And it ain't Donald Trump, it's 95% Democrats. 0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.340 So this is such a huge difference from the character 0:32:22.420 --> 0:32:24.920 Alex has always portrayed, where he's so invested in the 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:28.390 hard evidence and the documents. Now he's staking a position 0:32:28.430 --> 0:32:32.030 where he's trying to preemptively discredit whatever information may come 0:32:32.090 --> 0:32:34.870 out in the Epstein case, and encourage the audience, just 0:32:35.150 --> 0:32:38.860 trust the conclusions you've already come to. It really feels 0:32:38.900 --> 0:32:41.520 like a person who knows that there's really bad stuff 0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.950 waiting to come to light, and that makes sense. There's 0:32:45.110 --> 0:32:48.130 no chance that Alex trusts Roger Stone behind the scenes. 0:32:48.670 --> 0:32:51.450 Roger is an angry piece of shit who doesn't suffer 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:55.560 fools and has worked with dictators doing like image control 0:32:55.620 --> 0:32:56.480 over the course of his career. 0:32:56.500 --> 0:32:59.660 You would have to be so stupid to believe Roger Stone. Yeah. 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.800 To take him at face value, I would believe is 0:33:02.860 --> 0:33:03.360 your fault. 0:33:03.420 --> 0:33:05.130 You would have to be in a coma to be 0:33:05.170 --> 0:33:08.110 around him for 10 years and not realize how dangerous 0:33:08.290 --> 0:33:09.190 and dishonest he is. 0:33:09.230 --> 0:33:09.350 Yeah. 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.700 If Roger's telling you, trust me, Trump is cool on 0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.180 the Epstein stuff, you have to know something's up. 0:33:16.350 --> 0:33:18.930 Yeah, that's... Oh, so he's committed a war crime is 0:33:18.950 --> 0:33:19.890 what you're trying to tell me. 0:33:19.950 --> 0:33:22.570 Yeah. Yeah. He and Epstein were building a nuke. 0:33:22.670 --> 0:33:24.170 Yeah, absolutely. 0:33:24.410 --> 0:33:27.010 Whatever it is, it's worse than I could imagine because 0:33:27.050 --> 0:33:28.630 I'm not a billionaire and they have. 0:33:28.590 --> 0:33:30.790 So much money they can imagine worse crimes. 0:33:31.550 --> 0:33:35.620 Yeah, Roger's gonna like... Behind the scenes, like, Epstein is Trump. 0:33:35.740 --> 0:33:36.219 They're the same person. 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:37.040 I mean, why not? 0:33:37.140 --> 0:33:38.660 Yeah. It's a Kaiser Soze thing. 0:33:38.740 --> 0:33:38.960 Right? 0:33:39.020 --> 0:33:43.400 Like, and also, again, if you've actually been pardoned by 0:33:43.420 --> 0:33:47.770 a guy, that's basically a brand on the top of 0:33:47.810 --> 0:33:52.630 your forehead saying T. Like, he's pro-Trump for the good, 0:33:52.890 --> 0:33:55.510 for the goodest length of time there is till the 0:33:55.610 --> 0:33:56.190 end of days. 0:33:56.430 --> 0:34:00.400 Well... It's interesting because I think you could, there's, you 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.420 got to judge it based on the next couple months 0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.060 after you get the pardon. Okay. Because someone could lay 0:34:05.140 --> 0:34:07.760 low and just be like, whew, I got out of 0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:09.779 that one. I'm going to retire from public life. 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:11.620 Smart. That would be the smart move. 0:34:11.660 --> 0:34:13.860 Yeah. But if you are Roger and you continue to 0:34:13.900 --> 0:34:16.200 do Roger things and like. 0:34:16.219 --> 0:34:17.500 Eventually you're going to bite the hand. 0:34:17.620 --> 0:34:19.540 Yeah. And you're a Trump surrogate and all this stuff. 0:34:19.780 --> 0:34:19.920 Yeah. 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.299 You can never trust him again. Right. He's a Trump 0:34:22.340 --> 0:34:24.400 guy for the rest of his life. He got, he 0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:25.800 was going to die in jail. 0:34:26.030 --> 0:34:26.530 Exactly. 0:34:26.550 --> 0:34:27.029 Yeah. Yeah. 0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.129 I will do whatever he tells me to because that 0:34:30.190 --> 0:34:33.130 trumps your claim for, like, truth or honesty. 0:34:33.190 --> 0:34:35.770 No, I'm alive, not in jail. I know I did 0:34:35.790 --> 0:34:36.270 Trump again. 0:34:36.310 --> 0:34:37.950 God damn it. Back to Jar Jar Binks. 0:34:38.050 --> 0:34:38.250 Yeah. 0:34:38.270 --> 0:34:39.410 He has a life debt. 0:34:39.430 --> 0:34:40.990 He has a life debt. 0:34:41.050 --> 0:34:41.770 Yeah. 0:34:41.830 --> 0:34:42.690 This and hisson. 0:34:42.810 --> 0:34:42.989 Yeah. 0:34:45.469 --> 0:34:48.989 So, look, Alex is mad. Uh-huh. He's really mad that 0:34:49.010 --> 0:34:52.930 Trump just didn't shut up. Just don't say anything. 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:54.880 Fuck. 0:34:56.020 --> 0:34:58.340 Now Trump's calling for all of it and wants the 0:34:58.380 --> 0:35:00.359 DOJ to go after him. The problem is they won't 0:35:00.380 --> 0:35:04.100 because they're part of the same system. But he should 0:35:04.140 --> 0:35:07.219 have done this in the last six, seven, eight months 0:35:07.450 --> 0:35:08.930 because it was the right thing to do and your 0:35:08.969 --> 0:35:12.710 constituents would love you and back you. Instead, you did 0:35:12.730 --> 0:35:17.510 the political thing, the Machiavelli thing, and now you're getting 0:35:20.590 --> 0:35:21.560 the repercussions of it. 0:35:22.790 --> 0:35:23.430 Repercussions. 0:35:24.410 --> 0:35:25.570 I mean, if you were going to cover it up, 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:26.980 like I said at the time, and some people interpreted 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:28.420 this and said, look, he's telling him how to cover up. Now, 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:30.500 I said he should have done it, but I wore 0:35:30.540 --> 0:35:32.910 game stuff. I said, if you're going to cover it up, 0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.640 because I know you're not involved, shut up! 0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:37.489 Shut up! 0:35:38.770 --> 0:35:39.250 Passionate. 0:35:40.410 --> 0:35:41.270 We've all been there, man. 0:35:41.290 --> 0:35:44.110 Oh, my constituents, if you want to look at Epstein, 0:35:44.390 --> 0:35:48.600 you're an idiot Democrat, Mark, and you've been conned by them, 0:35:48.620 --> 0:35:51.770 and you're not MAGA. Just like Mark Levin and all 0:35:51.830 --> 0:35:54.510 of them. If you don't want to have nuclear war 0:35:54.530 --> 0:35:55.770 or you don't want to have us tell you what 0:35:55.790 --> 0:35:58.350 to do, you're anti-Semitic and you're not MAGA. None of 0:35:58.370 --> 0:36:00.290 you guys were for Trump. I was one of the 0:36:00.310 --> 0:36:02.060 first people to endorse him. I don't need to hear 0:36:02.100 --> 0:36:07.819 that from you. Pro-shot, pro-open border, pro-world government, pro-censorship. You're 0:36:07.860 --> 0:36:12.800 not Americans. You're absolute 100% high-level Mossad operatives. 0:36:12.860 --> 0:36:13.780 My God. 0:36:15.650 --> 0:36:16.029 All of them? 0:36:16.330 --> 0:36:18.450 I bet Levin's a colonel in the Israeli military. 0:36:18.940 --> 0:36:21.080 I mean, I just cannot take it anymore. 0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:23.830 And I don't hate you because you're Jewish. I don't 0:36:23.870 --> 0:36:26.549 hate you because you're Mossad. I hate you because you're 0:36:26.570 --> 0:36:28.630 trying to bully us and get in our face and 0:36:28.690 --> 0:36:33.489 acting like a bunch of assholes and then energizing the Nazis. See, 0:36:33.510 --> 0:36:36.779 because I'm actually thinking multi-level, dumbass. 0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:37.420 Damn. 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.200 So to be very direct, what's going on here is 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.060 that Alex is super mad about the position that supporting 0:36:43.100 --> 0:36:46.080 Trump has gotten him into, and he's trying to redirect 0:36:46.140 --> 0:36:49.219 that anger at Mark Levin. No one forced Alex to 0:36:49.260 --> 0:36:52.049 defend Trump how he has or hire Roger Stone and 0:36:52.090 --> 0:36:55.190 accept every bullshit thing he says as true. Alex is 0:36:55.210 --> 0:36:58.049 in the situation he's in because of his choices. And 0:36:58.090 --> 0:37:01.720 that's really bad right now because they're choices that are 0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.900 incompatible with the character that he's pretended to be for decades. 0:37:05.900 --> 0:37:08.780 You can't be the Bohemian Grove guy and then also 0:37:08.860 --> 0:37:10.960 say that if the president wants to cover up a 0:37:10.980 --> 0:37:14.100 child sex trafficking ring, he should just shut up. If 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.980 you ever were the guy you pretended to be, you 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.669 can't rationalize even a passive cover-up of something like this, 0:37:21.030 --> 0:37:24.529 let alone the very active decision Alex has said Trump made. 0:37:25.450 --> 0:37:28.299 Alex's brand is essentially shot, and Trump did it to him, 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.980 and he has no way to fight back. That's why 0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.300 Alex is so angry, because he's essentially getting rat fucked 0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.680 and he still has to have Roger on the show 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.070 later to spin. He's having the guy who rat fucked 0:37:40.110 --> 0:37:43.330 him as his as his honored guest. 0:37:43.489 --> 0:37:43.910 Yeah. 0:37:44.330 --> 0:37:47.470 For whatever reason, he can't meaningfully lash out at Trump. 0:37:47.710 --> 0:37:50.729 So everything has to be put through proxies. He's mad 0:37:50.770 --> 0:37:53.819 at Kash Patel. He's mad at Todd Blanche. These are 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.600 all just punching bags that he's taking his impotent rage 0:37:56.660 --> 0:38:00.960 about Trump out on. Like he can't he can't. He's 0:38:00.980 --> 0:38:02.580 like a guy who's in a dream and he can't 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:03.180 throw a punch. 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:10.200 I mean, it's like a literal manifestation of what happens 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.750 when you tie too much of your own ego up 0:38:12.830 --> 0:38:16.810 in somebody else's success. You know, like, because this would 0:38:16.930 --> 0:38:20.530 be tantamount to looking at himself and saying, you have failed. 0:38:20.870 --> 0:38:21.820 He cannot do it. 0:38:22.030 --> 0:38:22.170 Yep. 0:38:22.870 --> 0:38:27.880 Yep. Well, I think that's, like, the simplest explanation that 0:38:27.900 --> 0:38:30.000 doesn't require some other outside influence. 0:38:30.020 --> 0:38:30.879 Right, right, right, right. 0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:32.520 It does match with his psychology. 0:38:32.580 --> 0:38:34.780 I mean, I'm sure there are plenty of outside influences, 0:38:35.260 --> 0:38:37.819 not least of which being a shit ton of money. 0:38:38.020 --> 0:38:40.420 Yeah, there's a constellation of things going on here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:44.820 But naturally, like, his anger gets redirected towards anti-Semitic tropes 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.219 because that's what his world and information ecosystem has always 0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:52.029 been built on. It's fundamentally all just kind of, like, 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.379 Alex being a baby with a wet diaper. Like, he's 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:59.210 just lashing out. Except that Alex is the baby and 0:38:59.290 --> 0:39:02.870 Trump pissed in his diaper. He didn't even, like, wet himself. 0:39:03.030 --> 0:39:05.989 And Trump is also a baby. Yeah. 0:39:06.010 --> 0:39:06.969 But a rich baby. 0:39:06.989 --> 0:39:10.060 Yeah, a really rich baby that's allowed to pee on yourself. 0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:11.200 And doesn't want to hang out with you. 0:39:11.380 --> 0:39:11.660 Nope. 0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:12.640 Because you smell like piss. 0:39:12.860 --> 0:39:15.000 And you won't stop talking about Bubba. 0:39:15.260 --> 0:39:19.950 Yeah. Whew. So Alex, you know, I think he believes 0:39:19.989 --> 0:39:24.410 that all right-wing people who support Israel and are Jewish 0:39:24.410 --> 0:39:27.560 work for Israel. Right. And, are, you know, he has 0:39:27.580 --> 0:39:29.080 that dual loyalty trope. 0:39:29.140 --> 0:39:29.379 Sure. 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:34.300 The thing going pretty hard. And so he, he's like, uh, Netanyahu, 0:39:34.660 --> 0:39:36.930 I got to give you a warning. And he does. 0:39:36.969 --> 0:39:37.270 Yeah. 0:39:37.330 --> 0:39:39.450 Warren, Warren Netanyahu. 0:39:39.530 --> 0:39:39.730 Yeah. 0:39:40.610 --> 0:39:42.180 Now, this has gotten so out of hand, and people 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.700 have turned on Israel so much, I'm going to warn Netanyahu, 0:39:44.739 --> 0:39:45.900 and I'm going to warn his. 0:39:45.700 --> 0:39:46.899 Mossadegh right now. 0:39:47.219 --> 0:39:47.899 Warn him. 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.860 I'm giving you my real advice, and I'm known at 0:39:50.890 --> 0:39:53.930 the FBI, the CIA, everywhere, have tried to hire me 0:39:54.170 --> 0:39:55.330 for my ability to. 0:39:55.270 --> 0:39:57.290 Understand this stuff as a top analyst. I mean, seriously. 0:39:57.830 --> 0:39:58.690 And God powers. 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.100 But you don't have to be that smart to know this. 0:40:03.580 --> 0:40:07.040 You're not if you actually trigger this, you're not going 0:40:07.060 --> 0:40:09.089 to get out of it. You think because you've got 0:40:09.150 --> 0:40:12.049 nuclear weapons, this is going to end up OK. You're 0:40:12.070 --> 0:40:13.750 going to get Israel destroyed and probably the rest of 0:40:13.770 --> 0:40:17.690 the world with us. So with us, with humanity. 0:40:18.489 --> 0:40:21.700 So it's funny because that slip that Alex made there 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.160 where he used the word us to refer to Israel, 0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.939 it doesn't really mean anything. But the fact that Alex 0:40:26.980 --> 0:40:30.120 knew he needed to correct himself does tell you something. 0:40:30.700 --> 0:40:32.969 He knows that this is exactly the kind of clip 0:40:33.010 --> 0:40:36.170 that the avant-garde Nazi types he's been buddying up with 0:40:36.230 --> 0:40:39.450 would use against him to bolster their claims that he 0:40:39.469 --> 0:40:41.410 works for the Jews. And that's why he has to 0:40:41.430 --> 0:40:43.070 be like, I mean, humanity. 0:40:44.989 --> 0:40:46.770 I mean, listen, just to. 0:40:49.700 --> 0:40:51.399 The body of the paragraph there, man. 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.270 If anybody can get out of it, Netanyahu, he's still 0:40:55.370 --> 0:40:55.870 in charge. 0:40:56.730 --> 0:40:58.430 Do you know what he's been through for the past 0:40:58.450 --> 0:41:00.650 like five years to stay in charge? 0:41:00.730 --> 0:41:01.850 It's been some bad press. 0:41:01.950 --> 0:41:05.020 Like, oh my God, he's committed crimes and been guilty 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:05.399 of them. 0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.620 And he's still in charge. This is crazy. How has 0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:09.799 he pulled all this off? 0:41:10.420 --> 0:41:14.470 He's also committed war crimes while he's not even supposed 0:41:14.510 --> 0:41:16.170 to be in charge of things. 0:41:16.930 --> 0:41:18.210 Yeah. Yeah. 0:41:18.230 --> 0:41:19.430 I mean, it's still a charge. 0:41:19.550 --> 0:41:22.910 Yeah. And I think that Alex warning, you know, hey, 0:41:22.950 --> 0:41:26.700 don't set off any nukes. It's evergreen advice that all 0:41:26.780 --> 0:41:27.759 world leaders don't do that. 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:28.750 I would recommend it. 0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:33.580 But I think that he has a fundamental responsibility. inability 0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:38.560 to differentiate between the state of Israel, uh, support for Israel, 0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:40.000 someone who's Jewish. 0:41:40.219 --> 0:41:40.399 Yep. 0:41:40.820 --> 0:41:43.819 And, uh, he's, I think he just thinks that like 0:41:43.989 --> 0:41:47.850 Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, all these people are, are Mossad 0:41:47.890 --> 0:41:50.310 agents and might as well be in the government. Yeah. 0:41:51.210 --> 0:41:52.989 Uh, let me ask you a question. Let me ask 0:41:53.010 --> 0:41:53.550 you a question. 0:41:53.770 --> 0:41:54.089 All right. 0:41:54.489 --> 0:41:54.790 Nukes. 0:41:55.630 --> 0:41:56.290 Very bad. 0:41:56.870 --> 0:41:57.009 Right. 0:41:57.030 --> 0:41:57.190 Sure. 0:41:57.830 --> 0:41:59.650 What if we filled one with confetti? 0:42:00.469 --> 0:42:03.490 Maybe fun. I think it would still be really destructive, though, right? 0:42:04.219 --> 0:42:04.830 The confetti? 0:42:05.010 --> 0:42:07.030 Yeah. No, I mean just the bomb dropping. 0:42:07.230 --> 0:42:11.790 Yeah, that probably. But from a distance, up in the air, 0:42:12.390 --> 0:42:13.730 it would look like the best party. 0:42:14.270 --> 0:42:18.480 Well, I think if you had no concept of an explosion, 0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.980 a mushroom cloud might look pretty cool from a distance. 0:42:21.380 --> 0:42:23.400 I mean, it looks very cool from a distance. 0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:24.600 It's an interesting shape. 0:42:26.910 --> 0:42:30.810 Imagine that shape, but with confetti. I don't see a 0:42:30.830 --> 0:42:31.790 downside to this idea. 0:42:31.950 --> 0:42:32.169 Okay. 0:42:32.330 --> 0:42:32.589 All right. 0:42:32.730 --> 0:42:33.170 Work on it. 0:42:33.170 --> 0:42:34.590 Okay, I suppose. 0:42:34.630 --> 0:42:36.840 I look forward to making the next Oppenheimer about you. 0:42:36.930 --> 0:42:37.450 I suppose. 0:42:38.570 --> 0:42:43.469 So, look. Yeah. Trump's covering up Epstein stuff. And I've 0:42:43.510 --> 0:42:46.310 been tough on Alex about how he's accepted this. Sure. 0:42:46.650 --> 0:42:50.070 But in this next clip, Alex gives a pretty good 0:42:50.180 --> 0:42:52.100 reason for why he's okay with it. 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:52.540 Okay. 0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:54.440 And I do have to change my tune. 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:54.820 Uh-oh. 0:42:55.380 --> 0:42:58.480 Johnson's like, no, go ahead, vote, release it all. Now 0:42:58.500 --> 0:43:04.279 the Democrats are like, eh. Yeah, don't release it all. 0:43:04.340 --> 0:43:05.860 Just cherry pick. 0:43:05.950 --> 0:43:08.490 Get it out ahead. Oh, Trump. 0:43:10.410 --> 0:43:14.330 Kicking him out of Mar-a-Lago. Oh, Bannon coming and meeting 0:43:14.350 --> 0:43:17.129 with him once for a TV interview that we've seen 0:43:17.750 --> 0:43:24.810 clips of. See, now you get what they're doing. And 0:43:24.850 --> 0:43:29.569 I knew this beforehand. So why did Trump say kill Trump? 0:43:30.070 --> 0:43:34.810 The investigations. Because all the billionaires came to him and 0:43:34.830 --> 0:43:36.770 the rich Democrats and the heads of universities and hedge 0:43:36.790 --> 0:43:39.810 funds that said, listen, this is old and a lot 0:43:39.850 --> 0:43:42.839 of it's just innuendo and we want to work with you. 0:43:42.860 --> 0:43:43.460 Can we just. 0:43:46.940 --> 0:43:50.359 And then do you think that the Democrat Party would 0:43:50.420 --> 0:43:52.239 ever abide by a deal they made with you? 0:43:52.420 --> 0:43:52.730 I mean.... 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.739 You always tell the snake story of the frozen snake, 0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:58.149 and the lady picks it up and warms it up and. 0:43:58.150 --> 0:43:59.430 Bites her, and she says, why'd you do that? 0:43:59.690 --> 0:44:00.270 Well, I'm a snake. 0:44:00.410 --> 0:44:04.550 I'm a snake. Can Alex even hear himself? He's supposed 0:44:04.570 --> 0:44:07.110 to be the first guy who ever covered the Epstein story, 0:44:07.210 --> 0:44:10.339 and the dude was running a pedophilia and blackmail ring 0:44:10.380 --> 0:44:13.860 that controlled pretty much every world leader, elected or otherwise. 0:44:13.900 --> 0:44:14.040 Yeah. 0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:17.240 It's the key to unraveling the control network that explains 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:20.819 every conspiracy he pushes, so anyone that could possibly be 0:44:20.860 --> 0:44:23.989 a good leader would have to dismantle that. Mm-hmm. But 0:44:24.030 --> 0:44:26.690 now Trump's covering up for the Epstein shit because billionaires 0:44:26.770 --> 0:44:30.790 asked him nicely. Alex doesn't realize that if it's possible 0:44:30.850 --> 0:44:33.629 for Trump to agree to do that because billionaires asked him, 0:44:33.930 --> 0:44:37.089 then Trump is a monster. What's happening here is that 0:44:37.190 --> 0:44:40.630 it's become essentially undeniable that Trump is covering up the 0:44:40.690 --> 0:44:43.590 Epstein shit. And as much as Alex's political world is 0:44:43.660 --> 0:44:47.800 based in rejecting a universal reality, this one's not possible. 0:44:48.380 --> 0:44:52.319 Trump's actions are so overt and otherwise inexplicable that even 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.989 the most loyal Trump subjects can't pretend that he's being 0:44:56.030 --> 0:44:58.589 honest about this. Like Trump's not being cool about this. 0:44:58.610 --> 0:45:03.590 No, we are literally at the Borgia's territory of popeness. 0:45:04.070 --> 0:45:07.609 Like you guys are going to honestly, if you keep 0:45:07.650 --> 0:45:11.640 doing it this poorly, you'll have a reformation. That's how 0:45:11.820 --> 0:45:15.180 shitty you are. You're talking about Borgia shittiness. 0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:20.399 Yeah. And like, it's just like a unspinable, like that box. Yeah. 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:22.600 It's you can't. Everyone can see it. 0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:22.960 Yep. 0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.560 You can see that you're in it. You know, there's 0:45:25.620 --> 0:45:29.379 no denying it. It's it's it's not a mimes construction. 0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:33.240 We are past you sitting on the thing and people 0:45:33.300 --> 0:45:35.590 throwing balls to make you fall into the water. 0:45:36.090 --> 0:45:37.330 You have fallen into the water. 0:45:37.370 --> 0:45:39.569 Yeah. And you can't yell fake news. No one gives 0:45:39.630 --> 0:45:39.950 a shit. 0:45:40.010 --> 0:45:40.529 You're wet. 0:45:41.090 --> 0:45:42.930 So Alex is trying to come up with ways to 0:45:43.070 --> 0:45:47.660 excuse this undeniable reality. But it just doesn't work. There's 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.680 no acceptable reason why someone who's the leader that Alex 0:45:50.700 --> 0:45:53.460 has made Trump out to be would ever agree to 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.380 cover up a child trafficking ring on behalf of the 0:45:56.460 --> 0:45:59.859 billionaires who were involved in it. By conceding the point 0:45:59.920 --> 0:46:02.830 that Trump is covering this up, Alex has indicted him 0:46:02.910 --> 0:46:06.110 of an inexcusable crime, and yet Alex is trying to 0:46:06.150 --> 0:46:07.060 make excuses for him. 0:46:07.070 --> 0:46:10.470 Well, when you put it like that, it does sound inexcusable. 0:46:10.610 --> 0:46:13.430 But if you think of it this way, actually, he's 0:46:13.510 --> 0:46:14.270 very smart. 0:46:15.489 --> 0:46:18.230 Hmm. See? See? 0:46:19.450 --> 0:46:20.590 Actually, he's very smart. 0:46:21.610 --> 0:46:23.950 So now you can't... I didn't think of that. 0:46:23.989 --> 0:46:26.049 Yeah, you can't be mad at him because actually he's 0:46:26.070 --> 0:46:26.630 very smart. 0:46:26.690 --> 0:46:27.489 Get me Roger Stone. 0:46:27.590 --> 0:46:28.130 Exactly. 0:46:28.150 --> 0:46:33.410 I need him to reassure me. So, Alex, he's really, 0:46:33.630 --> 0:46:36.469 really mad that Trump is covering this up and that 0:46:36.510 --> 0:46:39.510 he can't deny that because the fact that he can't 0:46:39.570 --> 0:46:41.589 deny it means that he has to play the game 0:46:41.610 --> 0:46:44.739 that he's playing, which is kind of. 0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.359 Like you're trapped somewhere and you have to cut off 0:46:48.380 --> 0:46:51.240 your own arm to, to escape, you know? Yeah. 0:46:51.390 --> 0:46:55.009 I mean, it should be, but it's, it really is 0:46:55.350 --> 0:46:58.410 just a breach of contract, right? You know, like, there's 0:46:58.469 --> 0:47:02.149 an unspoken contract between all of us propagandists and Trump. 0:47:02.730 --> 0:47:04.830 Trump gets to do whatever the fuck he wants. We 0:47:04.910 --> 0:47:05.750 lie about. 0:47:05.550 --> 0:47:07.830 It as long as, you know, the rules of the 0:47:07.870 --> 0:47:11.090 contract are held. You're in breach of contract. Go fuck yourself, 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:12.779 you know? Like, that's what it has to be. 0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:13.900 It's upholding kayfabe. 0:47:14.020 --> 0:47:14.940 Yeah, absolutely. 0:47:15.420 --> 0:47:18.319 It's what Alex talked about on another episode a little 0:47:18.340 --> 0:47:21.459 bit ago, where he's like, we're your media surrogates. Leave 0:47:21.500 --> 0:47:25.080 this to us. Shut up. Yeah. You know, like, Trump 0:47:25.140 --> 0:47:28.930 didn't abide by... Yeah, whatever that unspoken contract is. 0:47:29.110 --> 0:47:31.279 When you step on a bear trap, the bear trap 0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:33.259 isn't like, ah, are you sure you want me to 0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:34.700 bite your leg? 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.640 Like, I don't, because like, what if you're a nice guy, 0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:38.660 but on the inside? 0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.120 No, it just fucking snaps. Yeah. 0:47:41.739 --> 0:47:43.969 So Alex kind of snaps a little bit too. And 0:47:43.989 --> 0:47:46.689 there's just like a lot of angry yelling for a bit. 0:47:47.610 --> 0:47:51.230 You got the tiger by the tail. You've got the problem. 0:47:52.150 --> 0:47:54.580 I am the detonator of the revolution you see around 0:47:54.620 --> 0:47:58.150 you and you know it. And my work has just begun. 0:47:59.550 --> 0:48:04.430 So feel your hand. You want a war? You got 0:48:04.469 --> 0:48:04.930 a war. 0:48:05.790 --> 0:48:07.850 You've been attacking. 0:48:07.230 --> 0:48:10.799 Me and been enjoying yourself in your arrogant perch that 0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:15.219 you're part of the power structure in Invincible. You are scum. 0:48:15.580 --> 0:48:17.600 You are losers. 0:48:18.460 --> 0:48:23.660 You are retarded gremlins that fed on this country when 0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:28.470 she was asleep. Well, she ain't asleep now, bitch. Sure. 0:48:29.330 --> 0:48:33.180 So let me tell you about the real mafia of populism. 0:48:34.620 --> 0:48:34.980 Is that good? 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:39.259 Let me tell you about real power that comes from 0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:45.319 real people with real guts and real bones and real morals. 0:48:48.330 --> 0:48:52.170 If you think hurting and attacking people like me and 0:48:52.190 --> 0:48:54.290 the American people that are now awake will make us 0:48:54.330 --> 0:48:58.609 go away, please continue and you will continue to find out. 0:49:00.510 --> 0:49:00.870 Okay. 0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:09.980 Sounds very heavenly. 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.350 We have only begun to fight. 0:49:19.900 --> 0:49:23.500 I'm convinced. Yeah, this is inspiring. 0:49:23.700 --> 0:49:24.020 Yeah. 0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:29.799 I don't remember too many, like, okay, so if you 0:49:29.820 --> 0:49:30.870 think about the St. 0:49:30.890 --> 0:49:33.550 Crispin's Day speech, you know, very famous speech. 0:49:35.100 --> 0:49:38.600 General thrust being like, hey, people who don't die here 0:49:38.620 --> 0:49:38.899 are going. 0:49:38.820 --> 0:49:40.530 To be like, oh, I wish I had died there. 0:49:40.730 --> 0:49:42.590 Very inspiring. Written by Shakespeare. 0:49:42.890 --> 0:49:48.370 At no point in time do you hear him go, ahhh! 0:49:48.489 --> 0:49:53.830 Long pause. Yeah, great orators of the past do not 0:49:53.890 --> 0:49:57.799 growl as much as Alex does. It's a stylistic thing. 0:49:58.030 --> 0:50:03.339 It is a little bit, whether it is now, blah, blah. 0:50:05.620 --> 0:50:09.480 I think that it's also too obvious that this is 0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.569 anger that he feels towards Trump. Sure. And it's just 0:50:12.670 --> 0:50:14.370 being yelled about other people. 0:50:14.450 --> 0:50:15.630 Transference is very. 0:50:15.850 --> 0:50:18.390 Yeah. I think it's a way too obvious. 0:50:18.730 --> 0:50:18.969 Yeah. 0:50:19.610 --> 0:50:21.569 And I feel bad for him. Yeah. You should just 0:50:21.630 --> 0:50:22.390 lash out at Trump. 0:50:22.410 --> 0:50:24.279 The thing about a mad libs is that there's a 0:50:24.300 --> 0:50:26.080 bunch of different things that you can put in there. 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:27.080 It's not just all. 0:50:27.580 --> 0:50:30.160 I'm very mad at Trump, but I can't see it. 0:50:30.620 --> 0:50:30.830 Mm hmm. 0:50:31.739 --> 0:50:35.339 So, Alex, you heard a little laugh there at the end. 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.980 I did. He has a mirthful thought. And that is, 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.530 holy shit, the future exists. 0:50:42.450 --> 0:50:44.870 And like a boa constrictor, we're wrapped around them. And 0:50:45.190 --> 0:50:50.650 they got us, we got them. And we're just squeezing. 0:50:51.190 --> 0:50:51.350 True. 0:50:51.370 --> 0:50:54.969 And squeezing. All right. 0:50:55.670 --> 0:50:58.850 And we get stronger and you get weaker. 0:50:58.870 --> 0:51:00.330 Okay. 0:51:01.170 --> 0:51:04.129 So you just believe your little MSNBC bubble. You just 0:51:04.190 --> 0:51:07.100 stay in your little bubble. You just wear your little 0:51:07.140 --> 0:51:09.920 virtual reality goggles and just live. 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.720 In your little fantasy land all you want. 0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:15.660 But while you're doing that. 0:51:20.590 --> 0:51:21.629 I'm going to fuck your wife. 0:51:21.650 --> 0:51:22.210 You're moving. 0:51:25.170 --> 0:51:28.850 And we've just begun to move. And if you think 0:51:28.870 --> 0:51:33.430 you're in trouble now, You haven't even begun to run 0:51:33.510 --> 0:51:38.320 in to the next wave that gets here in about 0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:50.759 a year. You think you can discredit, remove Trump and 0:51:50.780 --> 0:51:55.640 stop us? That's hilarious. You think you can take our 0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.660 purity and get us to attack Trump and get him 0:51:59.090 --> 0:52:03.700 out of the way for you? That's a symbol of 0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:05.739 how good we are and how strong we are. Now 0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:11.480 we're not going away. You see our purity as weakness. No, 0:52:11.540 --> 0:52:12.180 it's our strength. 0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:15.460 I think Alex is talking about the midterm elections, which 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:16.640 actually makes a lot of sense. 0:52:16.660 --> 0:52:16.879 Yeah. 0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:19.360 He says like in a year. Yeah, yeah. 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:20.500 That's kind of what I was assuming. 0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:23.720 That's the next time the Republicans can lose some power 0:52:23.820 --> 0:52:26.069 to be able to credibly rile up the base by 0:52:26.140 --> 0:52:29.660 acting like victims. Alex is probably thinking that the Democrats 0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:32.060 will take back the house and impeach Trump over the 0:52:32.420 --> 0:52:33.200 many crimes. 0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:34.480 All the crimes that he's committed. 0:52:34.700 --> 0:52:36.859 And then all the Trump surrogates and the media like 0:52:36.980 --> 0:52:39.990 Alex can pretend it's all political persecution. So everyone needs 0:52:40.050 --> 0:52:42.110 to shut up about how Trump is covering up the 0:52:42.170 --> 0:52:45.770 Epstein stuff. Alex is dreaming of a future that mirrors 0:52:45.810 --> 0:52:48.870 like 2018 because that was a great time for him 0:52:48.930 --> 0:52:49.870 as a media surrogate. 0:52:49.930 --> 0:52:50.190 Yeah. 0:52:50.410 --> 0:52:53.150 The storylines were simple back then. Like, The kind of 0:52:53.190 --> 0:52:56.610 stuff you'd read in a children's sci-fi novel. Very obvious 0:52:56.670 --> 0:53:00.070 heroes and villains. And that's the territory that Alex's skill 0:53:00.110 --> 0:53:03.520 set fits into. The storylines he's got going on now 0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:06.700 are way too complicated, and it's forcing him to justify 0:53:06.739 --> 0:53:10.339 why his god-anointed ruler is covering up child trafficking and 0:53:10.380 --> 0:53:13.550 blackmail rings. So it makes sense that he's fantasizing about 0:53:13.650 --> 0:53:17.890 this simpler time that's to come when... They won't control 0:53:18.030 --> 0:53:19.370 every part of the government. 0:53:19.530 --> 0:53:19.910 Yeah. 0:53:20.140 --> 0:53:23.500 I mean, there's, there's gotta be, I don't know. 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.120 I don't know what to, I don't know what it 0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:29.819 says about humanity as a whole, but there needs to 0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:32.800 be a, a like separate. 0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:35.300 Competence pool. 0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:36.219 Right. 0:53:36.530 --> 0:53:39.670 So all of these people love yelling about stuff and 0:53:39.710 --> 0:53:42.870 they love being like, ah, the government's evil. And if 0:53:42.969 --> 0:53:44.690 I was in government, here's what I would do. But 0:53:44.710 --> 0:53:47.089 they don't actually want to do the administration, the like 0:53:47.260 --> 0:53:47.779 doing it. 0:53:48.020 --> 0:53:48.219 Yeah. 0:53:48.260 --> 0:53:50.540 You know, like the actual doing of it. They want 0:53:50.620 --> 0:53:53.160 people to go like they want to say like, oh, 0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:54.640 I want peace in the Middle East. 0:53:55.180 --> 0:53:55.840 Make it happen. 0:53:56.140 --> 0:54:01.450 Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah, like, at best, like, be middle management 0:54:01.510 --> 0:54:04.009 at a think tank. Right. You're not writing up these 0:54:04.090 --> 0:54:07.210 position and papers and the white papers and stuff, but you're, like, 0:54:07.650 --> 0:54:09.569 telling what the intern needs to do. 0:54:09.690 --> 0:54:10.110 Yes! 0:54:10.330 --> 0:54:10.610 Yeah. 0:54:10.630 --> 0:54:11.649 We don't need you. 0:54:11.870 --> 0:54:15.950 You're all idea people for what's wrong. 0:54:15.710 --> 0:54:16.469 With all this shit. 0:54:16.510 --> 0:54:19.399 There should be a whole separate thing where those guys 0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:21.920 get to have their fun, and then they can have, like, 0:54:21.980 --> 0:54:24.480 a wing of the government, and it's the wing of, like... 0:54:25.460 --> 0:54:28.460 We're acting crazy. But then there's just basic level competence 0:54:28.540 --> 0:54:30.520 over here. Not a problem. 0:54:31.110 --> 0:54:33.120 Well, I think I think, you know, in the think 0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:38.189 tank structure of how a lot of, you know, government works. Sure. 0:54:38.510 --> 0:54:41.670 That is kind of the way things are. Sure. Except 0:54:41.710 --> 0:54:44.910 the the thing shits out of balance now where the 0:54:44.989 --> 0:54:48.950 competence isn't there's there's no place for it. The shit 0:54:48.989 --> 0:54:50.069 talkers and and. 0:54:50.570 --> 0:54:52.259 Well, that's the thing is like it needs to be 0:54:52.300 --> 0:54:54.780 an equal like there is another check and balance. 0:54:54.820 --> 0:54:57.259 And that's just people with competence. Like if that if 0:54:57.300 --> 0:54:57.800 the air. 0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:01.920 Traffic controllers are just like, no, that is that counts. 0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:04.500 You know, like the air traffic controllers get an equal 0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:06.200 part of the government where they get to be like, hey, 0:55:06.219 --> 0:55:07.100 you guys are fucking up. 0:55:07.140 --> 0:55:08.799 So we're just not going to work today. And then 0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:11.830 we have to deal with that. Well, it's a competence based. 0:55:12.650 --> 0:55:13.050 Sure. 0:55:13.690 --> 0:55:16.770 Yeah, no, I get what you're saying. It needs to 0:55:16.810 --> 0:55:17.490 be in balance. 0:55:17.610 --> 0:55:18.590 It needs to be in balance. 0:55:18.750 --> 0:55:22.410 Yeah. So Alex is a guy. Yeah. And he's not 0:55:22.510 --> 0:55:24.759 one like the bad guys. No. Because the bad guys 0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:28.120 are okay with cover-ups. And he's not okay with cover-ups. 0:55:28.140 --> 0:55:31.420 I feel like he is. Except he's actively excusing Trump 0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:33.719 doing a cover-up. Sure. It's a mess. 0:55:35.260 --> 0:55:37.419 Oh my goodness. 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:40.330 I called it. It wasn't hard to call it. And 0:55:40.469 --> 0:55:43.850 I was the bad guy in MAGA. I was undermining Trump. Oh, 0:55:44.070 --> 0:55:48.799 I was, oh no, we need to shut up about Epstein. Well, 0:55:48.820 --> 0:55:51.779 the majority of MAGA has morals, unlike some of you that, 0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:54.580 I noticed people that always say don't criticize Trump had 0:55:54.620 --> 0:55:58.870 just jumped on the bandwagon. You're political babies. You don't 0:55:58.890 --> 0:56:03.009 know what you're talking about. And obviously, this is a 0:56:03.050 --> 0:56:04.989 hot-button issue. I've been exposing it since day one, one 0:56:05.010 --> 0:56:07.680 of the first. It could bring down the whole globalist system, 0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:10.020 and it's got to be done. And so we're not 0:56:10.060 --> 0:56:14.500 like you. We're not like Democrats that'll just cover up 0:56:14.700 --> 0:56:17.779 evil because it's, quote, our party. I'm not a Republican. 0:56:17.820 --> 0:56:20.730 I'm a populist Christian patriot, and I wanted to reform 0:56:20.750 --> 0:56:22.629 the Republican Party through the Tea Party and Ron Paul, 0:56:22.650 --> 0:56:24.529 and we built that beachhead, and we've done it to 0:56:24.550 --> 0:56:25.009 a great extent. 0:56:25.050 --> 0:56:26.109 It's way better than Democrats, okay? 0:56:26.460 --> 0:56:29.040 Oh, so lesser of two evils thing. So in that clip, 0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.200 Alex says that he's not like the Democrats who will 0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:34.160 cover up evil because that defends the party. But his 0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:37.410 entire coverage of Trump's Epstein response has been an open 0:56:37.450 --> 0:56:40.550 acknowledgement that Trump's been covering up evil because that defends 0:56:40.590 --> 0:56:43.150 his party. Right. It's great if he wants to pretend 0:56:43.190 --> 0:56:45.169 that he's not a Republican or any of that shit, 0:56:45.210 --> 0:56:47.529 but the names are kind of meaningless at this point. 0:56:48.210 --> 0:56:50.530 The party that would have been thrilled about John McCain 0:56:50.590 --> 0:56:53.180 or Mitt Romney that we would have called the GOP... 0:56:53.469 --> 0:56:54.550 That doesn't exist anymore. 0:56:54.630 --> 0:56:54.830 No. 0:56:55.290 --> 0:56:57.609 Trump has turned what used to be the GOP into 0:56:57.650 --> 0:57:00.330 a cult of personality, and if Republicans want to exist 0:57:00.370 --> 0:57:02.200 in the future, they're going to need to take the 0:57:02.219 --> 0:57:05.400 party back or split away. Alex is loyal to Trump 0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:08.180 regardless of how involved he is in covering up evil, 0:57:08.260 --> 0:57:11.060 so in effect, he's heir to the corpse of the 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:16.590 Republican Party, which he... as ridden along to the destruction of. Yeah. 0:57:16.970 --> 0:57:20.230 If Alex wants to be convincingly populist, like he says 0:57:20.270 --> 0:57:22.250 he is, he needs to come up with a better 0:57:22.310 --> 0:57:24.870 excuse for why Trump covered up the Epstein stuff than 0:57:25.210 --> 0:57:28.290 the billionaires asked him to. That seems a little soft 0:57:28.350 --> 0:57:28.850 on the elites. 0:57:28.990 --> 0:57:31.570 I mean, a little bit. That kind of gets rid 0:57:31.610 --> 0:57:35.160 of populist. I would also say patriot. Can't be a 0:57:35.180 --> 0:57:37.380 patriot to international global billionaires. 0:57:37.770 --> 0:57:38.690 Not a great Christian. 0:57:38.830 --> 0:57:40.200 No, very not Christian. 0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:41.280 His Christianity is weird. 0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:44.200 His Christianity doesn't count as most religions. 0:57:44.420 --> 0:57:46.970 Yeah, his Christianity is kind of worshiping the devil. Right. 0:57:47.300 --> 0:57:51.550 His populism is basically the elite. Yep. And his patriotism 0:57:51.570 --> 0:57:54.930 is not patriotic. 0:57:55.020 --> 0:57:55.200 None. 0:57:55.730 --> 0:57:55.990 Cool. 0:57:56.110 --> 0:57:56.310 Yeah. 0:57:56.510 --> 0:57:56.990 Yeah. 0:57:57.570 --> 0:58:00.270 So this next clip is part of my I have 0:58:00.290 --> 0:58:04.030 a fascination with Alex's engagement with James Bond. 0:58:04.470 --> 0:58:05.050 Yeah. 0:58:05.150 --> 0:58:07.450 And so I like to I like to poke a 0:58:07.510 --> 0:58:10.320 little bit whenever he brings up something from James Bond. 0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:13.160 All right. I mean, I've been in these meetings when 0:58:13.180 --> 0:58:14.900 the time we're just kind of world's lawyers are trying 0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:15.540 to buy me off. 0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:19.980 They got me there under another pretense. And they're like. 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:25.140 Are you working with the G.S. seven nine two four group? 0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:28.460 Or is it the... And the Q, he said Q. 0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:31.580 They've been calling super top secret stuff Q on the 0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:33.020 OSS from before. 0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:36.860 World War II. That's why they call James Bond's technician Q. 0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:37.740 Dumbos. 0:58:37.980 --> 0:58:38.660 Dumbos. 0:58:38.740 --> 0:58:39.450 Dumbos. 0:58:39.780 --> 0:58:41.930 The character Q doesn't appear in any of Ian Fleming's 0:58:41.970 --> 0:58:45.490 Bond novels, just in the movies. No. In the original books, 0:58:45.530 --> 0:58:48.430 there are some references to the Q branch, which was 0:58:48.470 --> 0:58:51.410 the place that came up with his fun gadgets. Fleming 0:58:51.430 --> 0:58:54.150 based that department on Charles Fraser Smith, who was an 0:58:54.190 --> 0:58:57.100 inventor during World War I. he built things that came 0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.860 to be called Q devices because he was enlisted on 0:58:59.890 --> 0:59:02.570 a British Q ship, which were named after the port 0:59:02.590 --> 0:59:05.770 that they originally deployed from, which was Queenstown in Ireland. 0:59:05.850 --> 0:59:06.050 Fun. 0:59:06.550 --> 0:59:09.670 Also, Q isn't really a person in the James Bond movies. 0:59:09.830 --> 0:59:11.330 It's like a role within MI6. 0:59:11.340 --> 0:59:12.060 It's like a title. 0:59:12.260 --> 0:59:12.500 Yeah. 0:59:12.620 --> 0:59:12.740 Yeah. 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.540 The name is Q partially as an homage to Frazier 0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:19.460 Smith and partially because his job is quartermaster. 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:19.720 Yeah. 0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:23.610 I just don't know how much, uh, like Alex, I 0:59:23.620 --> 0:59:25.990 don't know how he handles being around so many stupid 0:59:26.010 --> 0:59:29.380 fucking people all the time. They can't tell the difference 0:59:29.410 --> 0:59:30.840 from reality and fiction. 0:59:31.260 --> 0:59:34.720 I just dumb bows. I just appreciate that. 0:59:35.300 --> 0:59:38.180 I have no doubt he has told other people this 0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:41.400 and they have been like, wow, that's so interesting. 0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:41.780 Yeah. 0:59:41.980 --> 0:59:43.320 That no point in time have. 0:59:43.220 --> 0:59:46.280 They been like, you are making that up whole cloth 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:48.320 because you are so lazy. 0:59:48.660 --> 0:59:51.120 You would rather make up a story than just look up. 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:53.580 Why is it called? You could just Google like, why 0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:55.540 is it called Q? And then he would tell you 0:59:55.580 --> 0:59:56.800 the whole fucking story. 0:59:56.980 --> 1:00:00.610 It's like the kind of tidbit you throw out drunk 1:00:00.670 --> 1:00:01.150 at the bar. 1:00:01.230 --> 1:00:01.330 Yeah. 1:00:01.780 --> 1:00:04.860 And everyone just kind of goes along with it because 1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:05.780 no one wants to fight. 1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:06.100 Yeah. 1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:08.600 And it's what his show. 1:00:08.660 --> 1:00:10.490 And why not? Why not? 1:00:10.550 --> 1:00:13.030 It seems like if that's your thing, what a weird 1:00:13.110 --> 1:00:14.330 thing for you to lie about. 1:00:14.390 --> 1:00:16.530 So, yeah, we'll just go along with it. We're your friends. 1:00:16.610 --> 1:00:19.250 You wouldn't just lie about Q to your friends for 1:00:19.310 --> 1:00:19.890 no reason. 1:00:19.950 --> 1:00:20.570 Right. Right. 1:00:20.630 --> 1:00:22.150 And it doesn't matter. It's James Bond. 1:00:22.290 --> 1:00:25.370 Exactly. But Alex would absolutely lie to you for no reason. 1:00:25.430 --> 1:00:26.950 Yeah. He does on his show all the time. All 1:00:26.990 --> 1:00:29.560 the time. So he's also the best. 1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:31.570 That's true. At what? 1:00:32.020 --> 1:00:32.360 Everything. 1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:33.300 Oh, that doesn't make sense. 1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:35.620 I had other intelligence agency visits and things, too, including 1:00:35.660 --> 1:00:38.980 foreign ones I mentioned. Because they went and got the 1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:41.180 database of my family and some of the stuff they'd 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:42.800 been involved in, but they never told me anything other 1:00:42.820 --> 1:00:44.560 than the government's corrupt and evil and you can't trust them. 1:00:45.570 --> 1:00:45.740 Sure. 1:00:46.110 --> 1:00:46.800 That seems like a lot. 1:00:46.820 --> 1:00:48.850 So I grew up around. 1:00:48.750 --> 1:00:52.710 Political science books and military books and engineering. 1:00:52.870 --> 1:00:55.850 But I was never told any of this stuff. I 1:00:55.870 --> 1:00:56.810 was just told how the world works. 1:00:59.610 --> 1:01:01.870 So I was in the right soil with the right 1:01:01.950 --> 1:01:06.910 mind and the right background to be a futurist, analyst, 1:01:08.390 --> 1:01:12.530 expert of experts, the best. And I don't say that 1:01:12.750 --> 1:01:15.390 as a power trip. The enemy already knows I'm the best. 1:01:16.990 --> 1:01:19.090 Steve Bannon says I'm the best. And I don't know. 1:01:19.170 --> 1:01:21.010 He's super smart. But there's a. 1:01:21.010 --> 1:01:21.820 Few of us, okay? 1:01:22.220 --> 1:01:23.120 But I am the best. 1:01:23.820 --> 1:01:25.380 I'm as good as it gets, boys and girls. 1:01:25.620 --> 1:01:25.800 Oof. 1:01:26.700 --> 1:01:28.640 Sure would be a shame if that guy who validates 1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:31.820 Alex's ego so well just happened to be friends with 1:01:31.840 --> 1:01:34.160 Jeffrey Epstein. It would be, yeah. He'd hate to let 1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:35.800 something like that get in the way of being able 1:01:35.840 --> 1:01:37.470 to feel like the best in the world. 1:01:37.530 --> 1:01:38.530 It'd be a real problem. 1:01:38.890 --> 1:01:40.710 It's fun to think back on how much Alex used 1:01:40.750 --> 1:01:43.830 to hate Steve Bannon back when Roger was feuding with him. 1:01:44.530 --> 1:01:47.410 Maybe part of Roger's pardon agreement was that he and 1:01:47.450 --> 1:01:51.630 Bannon had to make nice. It would explain the change 1:01:51.710 --> 1:01:53.710 in overall tone. 1:01:54.150 --> 1:01:55.990 Well, you know, it did happen around there. 1:01:56.860 --> 1:01:59.500 I think the timeline might not match up totally. 1:01:59.560 --> 1:02:01.560 Well, he was in prison for a little while, so. 1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:02.180 Yeah. 1:02:02.760 --> 1:02:05.410 I don't know if the pardon timeline works out, but 1:02:05.590 --> 1:02:08.590 whatever Roger thinks of Steve Bannon is what Alex thinks 1:02:08.650 --> 1:02:08.890 of him. 1:02:09.290 --> 1:02:10.410 It does feel that way. 1:02:10.830 --> 1:02:18.050 Man, I can't believe that you, you know, okay. Here's 1:02:18.070 --> 1:02:23.100 what's like underlying things with this whole idea of if 1:02:23.120 --> 1:02:25.860 Trump does this, it'll take down the government or like 1:02:26.100 --> 1:02:28.660 too many people or yada, yada, yada. Like at the 1:02:28.740 --> 1:02:31.400 end of the day, if you truly believe that our government, 1:02:31.420 --> 1:02:33.140 which has a total of what, 565. 1:02:33.100 --> 1:02:34.370 People in Congress or 465, whatever it is. 1:02:37.860 --> 1:02:41.090 And then you've got the executive branch and then you've 1:02:41.130 --> 1:02:42.210 got the judicial branch. 1:02:42.450 --> 1:02:45.170 So there's like fucking 500 people. 1:02:45.650 --> 1:02:49.140 If you think that more than 251 of those people 1:02:49.440 --> 1:02:52.000 are actively involved with Jeffrey Epstein. 1:02:52.220 --> 1:02:53.620 Then the whole government needs to go. 1:02:54.300 --> 1:02:54.460 Right. 1:02:55.180 --> 1:02:59.910 Like if more than half then it then it's too 1:02:59.950 --> 1:03:03.850 many period yeah right like that's just not possible. 1:03:03.470 --> 1:03:06.250 Yeah definitely and there is no real functional way to 1:03:06.310 --> 1:03:09.930 do that without like let's start over absolutely and look 1:03:10.090 --> 1:03:13.130 i i mean the government like let's make a new 1:03:13.190 --> 1:03:17.650 government or whatever sure that obviously i think realistically is 1:03:17.770 --> 1:03:20.260 not something that would go well the idea of it 1:03:20.510 --> 1:03:24.720 but At the same time, where did our government come from? 1:03:24.780 --> 1:03:25.280 That's the problem. 1:03:25.300 --> 1:03:29.760 People created it. It's not like we can't hit a 1:03:29.800 --> 1:03:31.080 hard reset or something. 1:03:31.160 --> 1:03:32.000 Here's what's crazy. 1:03:32.320 --> 1:03:34.440 We all learn about it and we all read about it, 1:03:34.680 --> 1:03:37.470 but they banged out the whole government in less than 1:03:37.510 --> 1:03:37.860 a year. 1:03:38.190 --> 1:03:38.870 That's not okay. 1:03:38.890 --> 1:03:45.010 People are able to collaborate, coordinate, negotiate. There is a 1:03:45.030 --> 1:03:49.770 capability for that. And the idea of, I don't think, 1:03:50.490 --> 1:03:51.570 I don't think it's going to happen. 1:03:51.730 --> 1:03:51.890 Sure. 1:03:51.970 --> 1:03:53.650 I think it would be a mess. Yeah. But the 1:03:53.730 --> 1:03:57.950 idea that like a new constitution could be written isn't impossible. 1:03:58.010 --> 1:04:03.240 Absolutely. We banned drinking in the whole country a hundred 1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:03.720 years ago. 1:04:04.060 --> 1:04:05.700 Yeah. Drinking. Yeah. 1:04:05.720 --> 1:04:07.160 That's what we love to do. 1:04:08.440 --> 1:04:08.740 Yeah. 1:04:08.920 --> 1:04:10.820 We can get a new, we can get a new country. 1:04:12.080 --> 1:04:14.460 It feels easier than banning drinking now. 1:04:14.660 --> 1:04:14.920 Sure. 1:04:14.940 --> 1:04:15.060 Sure. 1:04:16.700 --> 1:04:18.560 But I will say that this does feel a lot 1:04:18.600 --> 1:04:21.300 different than the position I would have had like five 1:04:21.340 --> 1:04:21.800 years ago. 1:04:21.820 --> 1:04:23.480 Sure. 1:04:24.260 --> 1:04:26.980 I think my horizons have been widened. 1:04:27.000 --> 1:04:27.720 That'll happen. 1:04:29.180 --> 1:04:33.500 So Trump, his base is cool. Not like the Democrats. 1:04:33.840 --> 1:04:35.420 They suck. They're all dumb. 1:04:36.530 --> 1:04:38.910 And so we need Trump to succeed. But that said, 1:04:39.550 --> 1:04:43.690 Trump's base is not like on average to serve all Democrats. 1:04:44.470 --> 1:04:55.190 They're more sophisticated. And they're based on moral guidestones that 1:04:55.490 --> 1:04:59.770 they expect. So Trump went down like six, seven points. 1:04:59.790 --> 1:05:02.070 We had the pollsters on there, very accurate, like Mark Mitchell, 1:05:02.610 --> 1:05:03.030 when he said. 1:05:03.090 --> 1:05:06.640 If you want Epstein out, you believe that, you know, 1:05:06.700 --> 1:05:09.160 you're not MAGA, you're not in our movement. Well, that's 1:05:09.180 --> 1:05:12.590 like 95% of your base. I mean, that's like... you've 1:05:12.610 --> 1:05:14.310 been happily married 10 years. And one day you just 1:05:14.350 --> 1:05:15.890 come home and beat the shit out of your wife. 1:05:15.910 --> 1:05:17.470 And you wonder why she's leaving. I mean, that was, 1:05:17.490 --> 1:05:19.270 I mean, this is like, I mean, maybe you can 1:05:19.310 --> 1:05:20.939 knock her upside the head a few times. She forgives 1:05:20.960 --> 1:05:23.060 you the first time you go to counseling, but I'm like, 1:05:23.140 --> 1:05:24.720 don't beat us up anymore. 1:05:25.180 --> 1:05:26.020 Don't tell that story. 1:05:26.040 --> 1:05:28.540 Station wagon with the kids and leave. I mean, that's 1:05:28.580 --> 1:05:29.060 my analogy. 1:05:29.380 --> 1:05:32.380 Yeah. I mean, like, it's gross to hear from someone who, 1:05:32.440 --> 1:05:35.020 you know, has been accused of domestic violence. 1:05:35.040 --> 1:05:35.919 The exact same thing. 1:05:36.060 --> 1:05:37.880 So I think it's a pretty good analogy, though, for 1:05:37.900 --> 1:05:40.760 the way that Trump treats his followers. Like, even Alex 1:05:40.800 --> 1:05:43.610 can't find a good way to articulate it without describing 1:05:43.670 --> 1:05:46.850 domestic violence. Yeah. Alex thinks that he's making the point 1:05:46.910 --> 1:05:49.730 that Trump's base is more sophisticated than Democrats and that 1:05:49.750 --> 1:05:52.490 they have moral principles. But really what he's saying is 1:05:52.550 --> 1:05:55.770 that the elements that make up Trump's base actually hate 1:05:55.810 --> 1:05:58.670 each other. But they had a flimsy truce that's now broken. 1:05:59.410 --> 1:06:02.370 The Nazi wing hates the right-wing Israel supporters. The white 1:06:02.410 --> 1:06:05.820 nationalists hate the pro-immigration, big business interests on the right. 1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:09.420 The conspiracy folks hate everyone who thinks running a government 1:06:09.540 --> 1:06:11.900 isn't as easy as posting on a message board. They 1:06:12.220 --> 1:06:15.460 all hate each other. Most of them put aside these 1:06:15.600 --> 1:06:17.990 really obvious feuds that they have with each other in 1:06:18.030 --> 1:06:21.070 the name of gaining power and fighting the imaginary enemy 1:06:21.110 --> 1:06:24.570 of woke Antifa leftists. But now that they've taken all 1:06:24.590 --> 1:06:27.750 of the power, each of these factions wants it for themselves. 1:06:28.280 --> 1:06:30.910 They want to be the next wave of what the 1:06:30.950 --> 1:06:34.970 Trump movement becomes. And I'll just spoil what's next for them. 1:06:35.390 --> 1:06:39.690 It's whatever the billionaires want. Maybe J.D. Vance, but basically 1:06:39.750 --> 1:06:42.390 someone like that who's backed by folks like Peter Thiel 1:06:42.430 --> 1:06:46.330 and Elon Musk. Trump can't legally run again. And if 1:06:46.450 --> 1:06:49.790 each of these factions insists on some ideologically pure candidate 1:06:49.810 --> 1:06:53.200 that serves their niche hate. then the Democrats going to 1:06:53.280 --> 1:06:54.040 win in 2028. 1:06:54.040 --> 1:06:56.010 If there's an election, I was going to say, yeah, 1:06:56.120 --> 1:06:58.350 that's the, that's the race against time, right? 1:06:58.470 --> 1:07:01.650 Like that's what they're, that's what I, I mean, if I, 1:07:01.710 --> 1:07:02.010 if I'm. 1:07:02.430 --> 1:07:06.840 If I'm, uh, one of them, trying to play the 1:07:06.880 --> 1:07:08.980 game that I feel like is laid out in front 1:07:09.000 --> 1:07:09.400 of me, right? 1:07:09.560 --> 1:07:10.840 So imagine I'm the player. 1:07:11.240 --> 1:07:12.040 Is this a Game of Thrones? 1:07:12.640 --> 1:07:14.240 It is a little bit like a Game of Thrones. 1:07:14.300 --> 1:07:15.180 Chaos is a ladder. 1:07:15.280 --> 1:07:15.740 Right, right. 1:07:15.780 --> 1:07:19.380 If I'm the player, and I'm looking at what they're doing, 1:07:19.440 --> 1:07:23.040 then it is all a race against time to get. 1:07:23.020 --> 1:07:25.610 Rid of the electoral.... 1:07:26.340 --> 1:07:30.550 Democracy, essentially, and replace it with something like Russia's, you know, 1:07:30.990 --> 1:07:33.710 very controlled, totally. 1:07:33.230 --> 1:07:34.410 Democracy, democracy. 1:07:34.850 --> 1:07:36.590 That's the that's the idea. And if you can't do 1:07:36.630 --> 1:07:37.709 that in three years, you're fucked. 1:07:38.190 --> 1:07:38.350 Right. 1:07:38.710 --> 1:07:41.550 So it feels like that is what they should be 1:07:41.590 --> 1:07:42.930 focusing on at all times. 1:07:43.010 --> 1:07:43.130 So. 1:07:43.870 --> 1:07:46.550 I mean, that's kind of why I don't even understand 1:07:46.570 --> 1:07:48.710 why they're bothering with the Epstein stuff. If it's me, 1:07:48.770 --> 1:07:52.040 I'm just going like, we need to erode everything. 1:07:52.500 --> 1:07:56.460 Well, because I think that the mainstream of the GOP 1:07:56.540 --> 1:07:57.580 is already doing that. 1:07:57.800 --> 1:07:58.040 Yeah. 1:07:58.160 --> 1:08:00.460 And so you don't need to advocate for that because 1:08:00.700 --> 1:08:03.700 people like Mike Johnson and Trump and all of his 1:08:03.740 --> 1:08:05.670 cabinet are doing that already. 1:08:05.870 --> 1:08:06.290 They are. 1:08:06.790 --> 1:08:08.890 They did doge for fuck's sake. 1:08:09.130 --> 1:08:09.930 They gave it a shot. 1:08:10.290 --> 1:08:13.160 Yeah. So they're already doing everything that you need to 1:08:13.200 --> 1:08:15.900 do on that institutional front. Sure. And so what you 1:08:15.940 --> 1:08:18.059 want to do is you want to stake out your 1:08:18.120 --> 1:08:21.700 position of why you are the pure new tea party 1:08:22.050 --> 1:08:24.630 or whatever that will be able to wield this power 1:08:24.670 --> 1:08:27.750 in the future. You want to, you want to, I mean, 1:08:27.770 --> 1:08:29.830 I hate to do more Game of Thrones shit, but 1:08:30.030 --> 1:08:32.290 you want to stake your claim as the rightful heir. 1:08:32.330 --> 1:08:34.769 Right, right, right. Naturally. Of course. No, no, no. 1:08:34.830 --> 1:08:36.530 But I mean, that's kind of where we're at is 1:08:36.570 --> 1:08:40.270 they've taken a government that we all kind of processed 1:08:40.330 --> 1:08:43.889 and understood as being a nuanced series of complex systems 1:08:43.930 --> 1:08:46.849 all interweaved to try and just make our days happen 1:08:47.110 --> 1:08:50.910 and turned it into like, OK, this person is angering me. 1:08:50.950 --> 1:08:53.679 So I take their fiefdom away for the day. You know, 1:08:53.720 --> 1:08:54.519 like that's where we're at. 1:08:55.100 --> 1:08:57.730 Yeah, and I think that they fail or, or whatever, 1:08:57.950 --> 1:09:01.650 you know, Alex is, you know, a milieu of folks 1:09:01.970 --> 1:09:06.130 fails to recognize is like, all you really want is 1:09:06.170 --> 1:09:10.030 an asshole. Yep. Like if they just replaced Trump with 1:09:10.229 --> 1:09:14.920 another fucking asshole, uh, that you could project your, uh, 1:09:15.120 --> 1:09:20.020 like weird beliefs onto, you'd be perfectly happy. Yep. Uh, so. 1:09:20.580 --> 1:09:23.280 And they don't need to do government. Like you're not 1:09:23.320 --> 1:09:26.070 paying attention to the government they are doing. So just 1:09:26.110 --> 1:09:28.630 let somebody be an asshole and somebody else do the government. 1:09:28.750 --> 1:09:30.850 Yeah. And I think that they should, if the, if 1:09:30.930 --> 1:09:34.870 the folks on the right were wise, I think what 1:09:34.890 --> 1:09:39.740 they would do is start trying to cultivate a really 1:09:40.240 --> 1:09:41.120 fun asshole. 1:09:41.600 --> 1:09:41.880 Yeah. 1:09:42.100 --> 1:09:46.940 Because like Nick Fuentes is leading some sort of a faction. Yep. 1:09:47.290 --> 1:09:50.030 but he's never going to win over certain parts of 1:09:50.050 --> 1:09:53.870 the right wing. Nope. Marjorie Taylor green is leading some 1:09:53.950 --> 1:09:57.450 kind of faction, but she's never going to get some 1:09:57.610 --> 1:09:59.910 parts of it. They're never going to be able to 1:09:59.970 --> 1:10:03.480 create that coalition that Trump has and they need an asshole. 1:10:03.650 --> 1:10:06.799 And Rogan doesn't have the interest. No, he's too fucking 1:10:06.860 --> 1:10:08.280 rich and lazy. 1:10:08.460 --> 1:10:09.979 Yeah. And I think, why would you, I think he 1:10:10.040 --> 1:10:13.040 understands that he like might get killed. 1:10:13.500 --> 1:10:13.780 Yeah. 1:10:13.880 --> 1:10:17.729 Like, I think he understands the, added risks of entering 1:10:17.770 --> 1:10:18.360 that arena. 1:10:18.510 --> 1:10:20.750 I mean, it's, it's just basic, you know, like there's 1:10:20.830 --> 1:10:24.530 no situation where Rogan has anything better than what he 1:10:24.570 --> 1:10:28.070 has right now, unless he has a megalomaniacal need for power. 1:10:28.189 --> 1:10:28.389 Yeah. 1:10:28.790 --> 1:10:33.000 Ironically, if he becomes president, he becomes less useful to 1:10:33.580 --> 1:10:35.540 the people who facilitate him. 1:10:35.620 --> 1:10:36.180 Absolutely. 1:10:36.300 --> 1:10:38.939 And I mean, it's, it's interesting how stark it is 1:10:39.020 --> 1:10:42.490 of like that Joe Rogan is not pursuing power because 1:10:42.670 --> 1:10:44.630 should tell you all you need to know about people 1:10:44.689 --> 1:10:47.350 in Joe Rogan's position who do pursue power. 1:10:47.729 --> 1:10:48.850 They're psychopaths. 1:10:48.930 --> 1:10:51.269 Yeah. They should just start a dumb comedy club. 1:10:51.410 --> 1:10:51.939 Absolutely. 1:10:51.960 --> 1:10:52.500 It's not woke. 1:10:52.620 --> 1:10:55.140 You're not going to bother anybody. You're going to have fun. 1:10:55.160 --> 1:10:55.780 Yeah. 1:10:55.800 --> 1:10:56.280 It's going to be great. 1:10:56.540 --> 1:11:00.460 So someone who's been bothering people is that Elijah Schaefer. Sure. 1:11:00.540 --> 1:11:01.470 We talked about it on the last episode. 1:11:01.479 --> 1:11:01.850 We did. 1:11:01.970 --> 1:11:03.630 Guy hates Indian Americans. 1:11:03.689 --> 1:11:06.230 What a wild, yeah, go for it, man, I guess. 1:11:06.510 --> 1:11:10.809 He mentioned in his discussion of his lawsuit, like, Kash 1:11:10.830 --> 1:11:14.250 Patel's girlfriend is suing him. Yeah. He mentioned that he 1:11:14.350 --> 1:11:20.760 brought Max Blumenthal from the gray zone into, like, he's like, hey, man, look, 1:11:20.780 --> 1:11:23.640 I got sued. So Max has been covering this. 1:11:23.680 --> 1:11:24.400 Right, great. 1:11:24.600 --> 1:11:27.620 And I think because of that, Max Blumenthal ends up 1:11:27.840 --> 1:11:28.680 on InfoWars. 1:11:28.700 --> 1:11:29.080 Oh, my God. 1:11:29.460 --> 1:11:32.010 So Alex is going to interview him, and I think 1:11:32.250 --> 1:11:35.229 it's mostly predicated on the Elijah Schaefer. Yeah. 1:11:36.350 --> 1:11:37.769 So I'm going to shut up now. We only have 1:11:37.910 --> 1:11:41.429 like 30 minutes, 35 minutes. Max Blumenthal, great journalist, really 1:11:41.450 --> 1:11:47.900 smart guy, thegrayzone.com. He broke the Elijah Schaefer stuff. And he's, again, 1:11:47.939 --> 1:11:50.660 joins us right now. Really appreciate him coming on with us. 1:11:51.020 --> 1:11:53.820 It's an interesting guest because I don't think Alex knows 1:11:54.000 --> 1:11:58.900 anything about him. Or at least fundamentally doesn't understand how 1:11:59.020 --> 1:12:00.520 different their positions are. 1:12:00.600 --> 1:12:02.090 Yeah, I don't think I know anything about him. 1:12:02.560 --> 1:12:04.040 I am not an expert. 1:12:04.420 --> 1:12:05.040 Okay. 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:10.680 But I think that he is definitely more of a 1:12:10.760 --> 1:12:16.930 guy who has strong criticisms of CIA shit. 1:12:17.070 --> 1:12:17.269 Sure. 1:12:17.820 --> 1:12:20.059 Does he fancy himself like a real journalist, too? 1:12:20.280 --> 1:12:22.700 Yeah, intercepting. He's Greenwaldian. 1:12:22.900 --> 1:12:24.339 Oh, he's that kind of asshole. 1:12:24.400 --> 1:12:24.519 Yeah. 1:12:24.540 --> 1:12:25.880 Okay, okay. I gotcha. 1:12:26.800 --> 1:12:28.720 But like I said, I don't know enough about him 1:12:28.760 --> 1:12:32.320 to speak authoritatively on what his positions are. 1:12:32.439 --> 1:12:32.740 Gotcha. 1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:37.169 But generally, he's that kind of guy who's like, yeah, 1:12:37.410 --> 1:12:41.389 everyone's attacking Maduro, but that's because the CIA is trying 1:12:41.430 --> 1:12:44.550 to destabilize his government, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. So they 1:12:44.590 --> 1:12:48.310 have a massive departure plan. In terms of a lot 1:12:48.330 --> 1:12:50.050 of their international understanding. 1:12:50.110 --> 1:12:50.309 Right. 1:12:51.330 --> 1:12:57.820 But also he is clearly a shithead and likes a 1:12:57.840 --> 1:12:59.320 bad political set domestically. 1:12:59.380 --> 1:13:00.580 Yeah. 1:13:00.780 --> 1:13:06.340 We've got two not necessarily compatible fictional worlds, but not 1:13:06.380 --> 1:13:09.360 necessarily in active conflict fictional worlds. 1:13:09.770 --> 1:13:13.009 No. And certainly ones that have had reason to overlap 1:13:13.050 --> 1:13:17.170 a lot more. Yeah. Yeah. Before this bombing of Iran 1:13:17.210 --> 1:13:22.129 and the Epstein stuff has completely blown up Trump's fragile 1:13:22.189 --> 1:13:24.940 hold on all these different groups. 1:13:25.150 --> 1:13:27.280 As Alex put it, if Trump had just shut up. 1:13:27.439 --> 1:13:28.099 He'd just shut up. 1:13:28.120 --> 1:13:28.300 Yep. 1:13:29.040 --> 1:13:33.219 So I think that it becomes pretty clear quickly that 1:13:33.580 --> 1:13:37.900 Alex does not really understand the difference of opinion that 1:13:37.960 --> 1:13:38.840 he and his guest have. 1:13:38.880 --> 1:13:39.020 Okay. 1:13:39.870 --> 1:13:41.130 Where do you want to start? Do you agree we're 1:13:41.170 --> 1:13:44.370 going into MAGA Civil War? You want to start with 1:13:44.430 --> 1:13:46.650 the Elijah Shaver suit? You want to start with the 1:13:46.770 --> 1:13:50.179 Epstein stuff? Because it's all interconnected. Where do you want. 1:13:51.520 --> 1:13:51.830 To go? 1:13:51.920 --> 1:13:53.439 I don't even know if we can call this a 1:13:53.520 --> 1:13:54.059 civil war. 1:13:54.140 --> 1:13:57.000 It's like the base against the donor class and all 1:13:57.020 --> 1:13:59.580 the phonies that the donor class has just. 1:14:00.570 --> 1:14:01.430 has just put out there. 1:14:01.470 --> 1:14:04.450 It's the 99% of MAGA against the 1%. 1:14:04.450 --> 1:14:04.769 Exactly. 1:14:04.880 --> 1:14:07.980 It's a literal class war. The real populist movement that 1:14:08.020 --> 1:14:10.600 took over part of the Republican Party is now at 1:14:10.660 --> 1:14:14.559 war with the Republican establishment that's uniparty holding on by 1:14:14.580 --> 1:14:15.080 its fingernails. 1:14:16.120 --> 1:14:18.710 And something I do want to talk about at some point, 1:14:18.729 --> 1:14:20.729 but I think we should, you know, cover everything. 1:14:20.750 --> 1:14:21.269 You got the floor. 1:14:21.310 --> 1:14:22.630 I'm going to shut up right now. 1:14:23.390 --> 1:14:28.839 But they, Donald Trump, is being pushed by Marco Rubio, 1:14:28.979 --> 1:14:34.019 one of the co-authors of TPS, to attack Venezuela. He's 1:14:34.080 --> 1:14:39.420 about to destabilize South America and cause another massive migration 1:14:39.460 --> 1:14:43.070 wave and a civil war in South America. They're lying 1:14:43.130 --> 1:14:47.510 about Venezuela being a narco cartel government. The cocaine and 1:14:47.590 --> 1:14:49.710 fentanyl is not coming from there. It's coming from the 1:14:49.770 --> 1:14:52.330 West Coast, from countries that are allied with the. 1:14:52.370 --> 1:14:56.049 U.S., So Alex got really excited about that MAGA people 1:14:56.130 --> 1:14:59.530 versus MAGA donor class line that Max dropped. But I 1:14:59.570 --> 1:15:01.809 don't think that Alex did any homework on his guest 1:15:01.979 --> 1:15:04.640 because Max is saying that Trump is part of that 1:15:04.680 --> 1:15:09.260 donor class. He also completely disagrees with Alex about fundamental 1:15:09.280 --> 1:15:12.400 matters of reality, like the stuff about Venezuela. So Alex 1:15:12.540 --> 1:15:15.960 whiffed on this booking. I don't care for Max Blumenthal, 1:15:16.020 --> 1:15:18.689 but he has a brand to maintain. So when Alex 1:15:18.729 --> 1:15:21.230 gets into a conversation with him, he's not just going 1:15:21.250 --> 1:15:24.620 to yes and everything that Alex says, like one of 1:15:25.200 --> 1:15:28.740 his normal dipshit guests who's just like happy to be there. 1:15:28.900 --> 1:15:33.250 I mean, Viva Frye will say whatever the fuck Alex wants. Yeah. Max, 1:15:33.470 --> 1:15:33.970 not so much. 1:15:34.800 --> 1:15:38.519 Considering the way we view airtime and advertising at this 1:15:38.580 --> 1:15:42.710 point alex's show is a donor show like it is 1:15:42.910 --> 1:15:46.150 him donating money and time to trump so he is 1:15:46.229 --> 1:15:47.430 also in that donor. 1:15:47.130 --> 1:15:49.910 Class said he's a media surrogate. 1:15:49.530 --> 1:15:52.059 Absolutely and he's really rich. 1:15:52.180 --> 1:15:55.120 Yeah yep no i mean it's a it's a telethon 1:15:55.990 --> 1:15:58.570 Ongoing for the advancement of Trump. 1:15:58.689 --> 1:15:59.740 That's how it's going to go. 1:16:00.100 --> 1:16:07.080 Yeah. So their interview is not like it's not groundbreaking. 1:16:07.200 --> 1:16:07.420 Yeah. 1:16:07.520 --> 1:16:11.719 And I think that Alex really does not fully grasp. 1:16:12.280 --> 1:16:15.440 what max is going with. Right. A lot of it is, uh, 1:16:15.979 --> 1:16:20.780 anti-Israel stuff. And it feels a bit like some of 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:25.500 that shit drifts into some pretty antisemitic territory, but I 1:16:25.620 --> 1:16:29.620 don't know enough about max, uh, to say like what 1:16:29.740 --> 1:16:33.210 his foundation is. And he's also a Jewish American. And 1:16:33.229 --> 1:16:35.230 I don't, I don't know, like, I don't know what 1:16:35.250 --> 1:16:36.050 his perspective is. 1:16:36.110 --> 1:16:36.349 Yeah. 1:16:36.630 --> 1:16:39.680 So I don't want to speak on that. Um, But 1:16:39.780 --> 1:16:45.040 it does, like, there's something very notable about him and Alex. Yeah. 1:16:45.120 --> 1:16:48.230 And that is that you heard, even in that last clip, 1:16:49.060 --> 1:16:54.010 he's complaining about Marco Rubio. Right. And when Max has 1:16:54.070 --> 1:16:59.670 criticisms of Israel, a lot of the time that does include... 1:16:59.820 --> 1:17:04.200 Christian Zionist right-wing figures on the right, like Marco Rubio 1:17:04.280 --> 1:17:06.240 or like RFK Jr. Right. 1:17:06.380 --> 1:17:09.840 Everybody who's like holying the land and hating the people. 1:17:10.080 --> 1:17:15.300 Right. Yeah. Whereas with Alex, it's always Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, 1:17:15.340 --> 1:17:17.500 Josh Hammer. It's all Jewish Americans. 1:17:17.540 --> 1:17:17.760 Yes. 1:17:18.460 --> 1:17:23.450 And that, like, I'm not saying that Max's critiques are 1:17:24.030 --> 1:17:27.130 less coming from the place of like, this sucks. 1:17:27.189 --> 1:17:28.430 Sure, sure, sure, sure. 1:17:28.530 --> 1:17:32.060 But it's, pretty, it makes it glaring how much Alex 1:17:32.120 --> 1:17:36.530 is on. Right. So Alex is, uh, like he, he's 1:17:36.590 --> 1:17:42.130 not grasping that, uh, Max's position is mostly anti-Trump. 1:17:42.310 --> 1:17:42.450 Yeah. 1:17:42.650 --> 1:17:44.729 And like Trump sucks. This guy's a piece of shit. 1:17:44.850 --> 1:17:44.990 Yeah. 1:17:45.030 --> 1:17:46.550 He's going to go bomb Venezuela. 1:17:46.610 --> 1:17:46.809 Yeah. 1:17:46.890 --> 1:17:50.220 The fuck are we doing? He's allowing the CIA to 1:17:50.260 --> 1:17:54.219 cover up the massage shit with the, the Epstein stuff. 1:17:55.550 --> 1:17:58.550 And so Alex has like a final question for him 1:17:58.610 --> 1:18:01.630 that just does not grasp the negativity. 1:18:02.260 --> 1:18:08.120 In closing, looking at the coverup of Epstein. Now you've 1:18:08.140 --> 1:18:10.880 got the FBI covering up crooks and people helping him. 1:18:11.439 --> 1:18:15.580 You've got this rapid response team and it's all unraveling. 1:18:15.600 --> 1:18:18.090 Turns out they did have all this internet data and 1:18:18.150 --> 1:18:20.070 metadata on crooks said they didn't. 1:18:20.110 --> 1:18:22.930 That's all coming out from our own reporter. And it's, 1:18:23.400 --> 1:18:24.400 She's coming on later. 1:18:24.860 --> 1:18:31.990 I mean, this is disintegrating very, very quickly. How do 1:18:32.010 --> 1:18:33.809 you expect the Democrats to play this? I mean, what 1:18:33.830 --> 1:18:37.630 are the different possible outcomes of this? Let me ask this. 1:18:38.150 --> 1:18:39.830 How does Trump extricate himself from this? 1:18:40.250 --> 1:18:44.510 So, Max, his point is, generally speaking, like, Trump is bad. 1:18:44.890 --> 1:18:48.390 He is bad. He cannot extricate himself because himself is 1:18:48.470 --> 1:18:49.030 the problem. 1:18:49.130 --> 1:18:52.080 Right, and that really... really also highlights this difference that 1:18:52.260 --> 1:18:54.580 Alex is like asking him, how do we save Trump? 1:18:54.600 --> 1:18:54.800 Yeah. 1:18:54.840 --> 1:18:55.410 How do we get it? 1:18:55.520 --> 1:18:59.980 He doesn't understand or doesn't grasp. In the moment of 1:19:00.020 --> 1:19:03.720 the interview, like that, it's just no. The decision is made. 1:19:03.740 --> 1:19:03.979 Yeah. 1:19:04.040 --> 1:19:05.000 The line has been crossed. 1:19:05.020 --> 1:19:05.190 Yeah. 1:19:05.280 --> 1:19:06.430 And you should know that. 1:19:06.630 --> 1:19:06.890 Yeah. 1:19:07.530 --> 1:19:10.349 No, that's that is that's supposed to be again. Like, 1:19:10.390 --> 1:19:12.090 I keep going back to this. That's supposed to be 1:19:12.130 --> 1:19:16.040 the luxury of being Alex is when everybody else has to, like, 1:19:16.100 --> 1:19:17.440 question where the line is. 1:19:17.540 --> 1:19:20.120 You get to say my line has already been crossed. 1:19:20.540 --> 1:19:21.439 You know, like when. 1:19:21.320 --> 1:19:25.490 Somebody else goes like, oh, well, I will still support 1:19:25.530 --> 1:19:27.730 George W. Bush, even though I don't support the Iraq 1:19:27.750 --> 1:19:29.130 war because blah, blah, blah, blah. 1:19:29.189 --> 1:19:31.170 Right. The line hasn't been crossed. 1:19:31.229 --> 1:19:33.540 But if he did this for Trump and for Alex, 1:19:33.600 --> 1:19:35.100 it's already been crossed a hundred times. 1:19:35.120 --> 1:19:37.660 Right. You already I don't even need to ask the question. 1:19:37.700 --> 1:19:38.860 What's he doing? Don't care. 1:19:39.020 --> 1:19:39.180 Yeah. 1:19:39.220 --> 1:19:43.170 Hate him. And now that this coalition is breaking down 1:19:43.530 --> 1:19:46.630 and there are more people who he would have presumed 1:19:46.729 --> 1:19:50.490 to be allies who are now like, fuck this Trump shit. Yep. 1:19:50.810 --> 1:19:53.689 He's going to encounter more and more guests that he 1:19:53.729 --> 1:19:57.340 thinks are like kind of safe workshopping partners. 1:19:57.400 --> 1:19:57.650 Yeah. 1:19:57.900 --> 1:20:00.220 And instead they're going to be like, no, you should 1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:01.840 have moved on from this long ago. 1:20:02.040 --> 1:20:02.220 Yeah. 1:20:02.500 --> 1:20:05.000 This is you're holding on to something and it's embarrassing. 1:20:05.200 --> 1:20:08.759 I'm sure that their personal perceptions prior to the actual 1:20:08.800 --> 1:20:11.849 talking to him is still kind of modeled on what 1:20:11.890 --> 1:20:14.390 they think of what they think that Alex should be. 1:20:14.470 --> 1:20:16.750 So they're kind of going in there. I'm sure he's 1:20:16.790 --> 1:20:19.110 going in there thinking like, yeah, we'll. 1:20:18.950 --> 1:20:21.769 Talk about Epstein, you know, because it's wrong to have 1:20:21.830 --> 1:20:23.559 pedophile billionaires run everything. 1:20:23.640 --> 1:20:26.660 Yeah. I don't think most people actually watch his show. Right. 1:20:26.800 --> 1:20:30.100 So they have a caricature. Exactly. In their minds. 1:20:30.240 --> 1:20:30.400 Yep. 1:20:31.070 --> 1:20:35.340 So anyway, Max leaves and Alex decides to start complaining 1:20:35.400 --> 1:20:37.980 about how this is important stuff. 1:20:38.120 --> 1:20:38.320 Yeah. 1:20:38.740 --> 1:20:42.670 Mark Levin, he thinks he has a big audience, but 1:20:42.729 --> 1:20:45.990 he doesn't. He's not as big as Alex. Oh my God. 1:20:46.010 --> 1:20:47.450 I mean, there are a lot of people in my 1:20:47.490 --> 1:20:52.460 life that, people I've known that a society totally collapsed 1:20:52.500 --> 1:20:54.870 and road warrior there's no more whatever and they you 1:20:54.910 --> 1:20:57.130 know eye for an eye that you know I saw 1:20:57.150 --> 1:20:58.810 them on the street they'd have a problem but I 1:20:58.810 --> 1:21:00.590 got to think about what would happen if I did 1:21:00.610 --> 1:21:02.570 the thing I want to do I can't do that 1:21:05.610 --> 1:21:10.260 plus they're not even worth it but it just must 1:21:10.300 --> 1:21:15.180 feel good to be Mark Levin sitting up there saying 1:21:15.200 --> 1:21:16.820 he's got the biggest audience when he's not even the 1:21:16.840 --> 1:21:20.790 top 20 I mean I've been number one English speaker 1:21:20.850 --> 1:21:23.010 in the world, not just news. I've been number one. 1:21:23.050 --> 1:21:25.769 I'm in the top five. But it's not like it's 1:21:25.790 --> 1:21:28.650 a responsibility. I'm actually glad I'm not number one now. 1:21:33.689 --> 1:21:35.900 But then I got to see somebody that's never won 1:21:36.340 --> 1:21:39.040 the Indy 500. It'd be like if you never won 1:21:39.060 --> 1:21:40.720 a Super Bowl ring, and I've won like five of them. 1:21:40.740 --> 1:21:42.460 He's talking about how he's the best football player. I'm like, dude, 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:43.439 you ain't got a Super Bowl ring. 1:21:43.640 --> 1:21:44.160 I got five. 1:21:45.640 --> 1:21:47.380 It's like some guy that never even made the NBA 1:21:47.420 --> 1:21:49.780 telling me he's Michael Jordan. I'm just like, dude, shut up. 1:21:50.100 --> 1:21:54.840 You are pathetic. Sounds like a little kid. You got 1:21:54.880 --> 1:21:56.639 the biggest show. 1:21:56.860 --> 1:21:59.880 It's just like, what? You sound like. 1:21:59.280 --> 1:22:03.000 10-year-olds in the boys' bathroom showing each other their dicks. 1:22:03.939 --> 1:22:07.930 I mean, it's just like, dude, think a little more 1:22:07.970 --> 1:22:09.450 about what you do, you schmuck. 1:22:10.990 --> 1:22:11.729 Seriously, man. 1:22:16.750 --> 1:22:30.670 God help us. Oh, boy. You okay, buddy? There's still 1:22:30.689 --> 1:22:31.430 time to get out of this. 1:22:31.729 --> 1:22:32.410 Oh, my God. 1:22:32.470 --> 1:22:33.170 No, there isn't. 1:22:34.110 --> 1:22:34.750 No. 1:22:35.270 --> 1:22:37.769 Just fucking go. 1:22:37.990 --> 1:22:40.690 The long pause before the there's time to get out 1:22:40.729 --> 1:22:45.320 of this makes me feel like, yeah, you're right. you 1:22:45.360 --> 1:22:45.780 can escape. 1:22:46.280 --> 1:22:48.669 Okay, so it feels like this. Here's what it feels 1:22:48.710 --> 1:22:56.240 like to me, right? If you are going to torture somebody, 1:22:57.200 --> 1:22:58.630 You can do the regular torture. 1:22:58.650 --> 1:23:00.229 You can do the pain. You can do the rack. 1:23:00.450 --> 1:23:02.010 You can do all that stuff. 1:23:02.430 --> 1:23:06.250 But the real way to truly torture somebody is to 1:23:06.470 --> 1:23:11.780 edge them for 10 years and still never let it happen. 1:23:12.460 --> 1:23:16.840 At a certain point, that pain becomes so all-consuming that 1:23:16.960 --> 1:23:19.860 you're just like, I can only think about one thing. 1:23:19.920 --> 1:23:22.719 My existence has been boiled down to the simple purpose 1:23:22.740 --> 1:23:25.030 of coming one time, and you'll never do it. 1:23:25.270 --> 1:23:27.950 Are you talking like this because Alex talked about dicks? 1:23:28.270 --> 1:23:30.050 A little bit. A little bit. 1:23:30.210 --> 1:23:30.729 Getting a little blue. 1:23:30.750 --> 1:23:32.849 Dicks are on the mind. Dicks are on the mind. 1:23:34.510 --> 1:23:38.090 See, I was thinking, like, you can't really destroy someone 1:23:38.689 --> 1:23:42.130 without giving them the chance to have everything they want. 1:23:42.310 --> 1:23:42.690 Yeah. 1:23:42.930 --> 1:23:46.130 Because Alex could have everything that he wants if he 1:23:46.270 --> 1:23:49.150 just would have had the instincts to not go along 1:23:49.189 --> 1:23:53.210 with Trump for the long haul. Ah. And like he's 1:23:53.290 --> 1:23:55.070 destroyed himself through this. 1:23:55.250 --> 1:23:55.410 Yeah. 1:23:55.610 --> 1:24:01.229 Like no globalist or MSNBC host could or podcast that's 1:24:01.250 --> 1:24:03.879 done a thousand episodes. None of those things could do 1:24:03.990 --> 1:24:07.300 as much damage to him as what he has to 1:24:07.380 --> 1:24:11.420 do now. Yeah. And yet and it's a risk because 1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:15.800 if you were to offer him like a choice, if 1:24:15.840 --> 1:24:17.980 I could go back in time and be like, hey, 1:24:18.300 --> 1:24:22.849 here's here's the choice they're going to make. One version 1:24:22.890 --> 1:24:26.030 of it has to be like everything is fucking awesome. Yeah. 1:24:26.610 --> 1:24:29.309 And it has to be your own fault. 1:24:29.490 --> 1:24:30.150 And he can't. 1:24:30.410 --> 1:24:32.270 And even if he did go back in time, he 1:24:32.290 --> 1:24:35.880 would find himself unable to make that same. Like he 1:24:35.910 --> 1:24:39.640 would continue to fill this loop because he is just 1:24:39.740 --> 1:24:41.059 a shitty person. 1:24:42.060 --> 1:24:43.700 This is just who he is. 1:24:43.760 --> 1:24:46.380 You've brought up something interesting. Yeah. And I think that 1:24:46.420 --> 1:24:47.479 if I were Alex Jones. 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:47.800 Yeah. 1:24:48.189 --> 1:24:50.950 And a future Alex Jones visited me, I would not 1:24:50.990 --> 1:24:51.330 trust him. 1:24:51.650 --> 1:24:56.050 Absolutely not. I know me. I'm me. Fuck you. 1:24:56.070 --> 1:24:59.150 Even if he is giving good advice, like don't do 1:24:59.220 --> 1:25:01.760 the Trump shit, I'd be like, I think that means 1:25:01.800 --> 1:25:04.320 I should do the Trump. Is this a globalist hologram? 1:25:04.420 --> 1:25:07.360 Okay, first things first. I know your first response is 1:25:07.380 --> 1:25:08.900 going to be not to believe me. 1:25:09.400 --> 1:25:09.740 I'm you. 1:25:10.540 --> 1:25:11.080 Believe me. 1:25:11.460 --> 1:25:11.740 All right. 1:25:11.860 --> 1:25:14.180 I know your second response to me saying believe me 1:25:14.240 --> 1:25:15.740 is going to make you believe me even less. 1:25:15.850 --> 1:25:16.550 I know I'm you. 1:25:16.560 --> 1:25:17.750 It feels like a double bluff. 1:25:18.010 --> 1:25:19.210 Oh, shit. I'm going to go back. 1:25:19.430 --> 1:25:21.250 Are you a triple agent or a quadruple agent? 1:25:21.270 --> 1:25:22.809 I'm too lazy. I quit. 1:25:24.610 --> 1:25:28.309 So Alex, you know, he's interviewed Max. 1:25:28.460 --> 1:25:28.700 Yep. 1:25:28.800 --> 1:25:30.040 And now Roger comes in. 1:25:30.140 --> 1:25:33.460 Right. How can we extricate Trump from this? 1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:38.120 Roger, please make it suck less for me to say 1:25:38.160 --> 1:25:39.759 it's okay to cover up Epstein. 1:25:39.939 --> 1:25:43.650 It's definitely they're more on similar bandwidth. Yeah. But there's 1:25:43.660 --> 1:25:46.470 something really interesting that happens right at the beginning of 1:25:46.510 --> 1:25:50.350 the interview. And that is that Alex steals the donor 1:25:50.410 --> 1:25:53.670 class versus the public thing that Max brought up. 1:25:54.340 --> 1:25:57.660 And so it's an optics issue overall. Roger, we're two 1:25:57.700 --> 1:26:00.179 minutes to break, but just give me a prelude, StoneZone.com, 1:26:00.740 --> 1:26:02.400 on where you describe where we are. I think there's 1:26:02.439 --> 1:26:07.840 really a battle going on between the Republican donor class 1:26:08.740 --> 1:26:12.020 and the consultant class and the 99%, as Max Blumenthal said, 1:26:12.410 --> 1:26:15.470 of his base. I think the base wants to hear. 1:26:15.930 --> 1:26:17.890 He's like, I'm helping internationally. People are like, why do 1:26:17.910 --> 1:26:19.269 you care about international? Because it affects the series. 1:26:19.290 --> 1:26:21.310 He's totally right. But it's the optics. 1:26:21.790 --> 1:26:24.629 I think he needs to, you know, stroke the cat, 1:26:24.710 --> 1:26:25.610 stroke the dog. 1:26:26.090 --> 1:26:26.420 Tell it. 1:26:26.650 --> 1:26:28.900 I mean, am I wrong here? We only got a 1:26:28.920 --> 1:26:29.740 minute to break. Roger. 1:26:30.939 --> 1:26:34.120 Alex, anybody who underestimates Donald Trump does so at their 1:26:34.180 --> 1:26:34.719 own peril. 1:26:35.160 --> 1:26:37.740 This is a very interesting moment because Alex has just 1:26:37.800 --> 1:26:41.300 finished interviewing Max Blumenthal, who's pretty negative about Trump. And 1:26:41.320 --> 1:26:44.430 now he's pivoting to interviewing Roger Stone, who couldn't be 1:26:44.490 --> 1:26:47.520 more positive. Some people might look at that and get 1:26:47.600 --> 1:26:50.559 fooled into thinking that this illustrates a diversity of opinion 1:26:50.640 --> 1:26:53.280 on this show. But really, the way to understand it 1:26:53.430 --> 1:26:56.170 is that Roger is preaching the party line and Max 1:26:56.189 --> 1:26:59.590 is there as a consultant. He has some criticisms of Trump, 1:26:59.650 --> 1:27:02.250 but Alex pretends that the conversation that they're having is 1:27:02.350 --> 1:27:04.630 secretly about how Trump can get out of this mess 1:27:04.870 --> 1:27:09.550 that's everyone else's fault. Max's point about the 99% of 1:27:09.570 --> 1:27:11.729 the Trump base being in opposition to the donor class 1:27:11.750 --> 1:27:14.380 is wasn't a suggestion of a way out for Trump. 1:27:14.800 --> 1:27:17.680 It was a very clear thing that Trump was on 1:27:17.700 --> 1:27:21.160 the side of the donor class. In Alex's mind, this 1:27:21.220 --> 1:27:24.360 whole thing was just war gaming. For Alex, he heard 1:27:24.400 --> 1:27:27.300 Mac say that line, and he immediately recognized that it 1:27:27.340 --> 1:27:30.180 was good branding. So he's trying to repackage it with 1:27:30.280 --> 1:27:32.480 Roger and sell it as a way for them to 1:27:32.540 --> 1:27:36.580 support Trump in the future. They can still support Trump 1:27:36.640 --> 1:27:39.020 if he adopts the optics that he's fighting against the 1:27:39.060 --> 1:27:41.809 donor class, And all that stuff that the base doesn't like, 1:27:42.030 --> 1:27:45.370 that's just due to donor class loyalists like Kash Patel 1:27:45.410 --> 1:27:46.330 and Pam Bondi. 1:27:46.390 --> 1:27:46.880 You got it. 1:27:46.970 --> 1:27:47.590 The deep state. 1:27:47.770 --> 1:27:48.710 It's exactly that. 1:27:49.150 --> 1:27:51.639 Alex sees the power of this line in terms of 1:27:51.760 --> 1:27:55.760 making someone into a scapegoat. So he's taking it like 1:27:55.800 --> 1:27:59.510 he did with. Every other catchphrase that he's ever had. 1:27:59.570 --> 1:28:01.870 I don't even know if he, I doubt he consciously 1:28:01.890 --> 1:28:03.650 thought about it. It just happens. 1:28:03.710 --> 1:28:05.030 Yep. Yep. Muscle memory. 1:28:05.070 --> 1:28:05.170 Yep. 1:28:05.810 --> 1:28:07.510 I think this is a really good example of how 1:28:07.630 --> 1:28:11.350 truth and context really don't mean anything to Alex. These 1:28:11.450 --> 1:28:14.680 words in that order triggered something in his brain and 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:17.640 made him think that just might work. So that's what 1:28:17.680 --> 1:28:18.580 they mean now. Yep. 1:28:19.400 --> 1:28:20.980 No, it doesn't even bother. 1:28:21.060 --> 1:28:24.500 It doesn't bother him or ever occur to him to think, 1:28:25.220 --> 1:28:26.440 is any of that true? 1:28:27.260 --> 1:28:28.420 You know, like it doesn't bother. 1:28:28.439 --> 1:28:29.080 What does that mean? 1:28:29.300 --> 1:28:29.920 Right, right, right. 1:28:30.020 --> 1:28:33.290 OK, so if Trump and the donor class versus 99 percent, 1:28:33.750 --> 1:28:36.930 it never considered it never even crosses his mind like, well, 1:28:36.970 --> 1:28:39.950 Trump is on one of those teams like in his. 1:28:40.080 --> 1:28:42.679 Head, he can just bounce back and forth whenever you want. 1:28:43.320 --> 1:28:44.660 Whichever is more advantageous. 1:28:44.979 --> 1:28:46.660 Pretend that you're on the 99 side. 1:28:46.780 --> 1:28:47.259 Absolutely. 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:48.009 Just say it. 1:28:48.360 --> 1:28:48.780 I do. 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:49.969 And shut up. 1:28:50.439 --> 1:28:51.000 Shut up. 1:28:51.460 --> 1:28:51.880 Lie. 1:28:52.240 --> 1:28:54.720 Stop lying. And let other people do the rest of 1:28:54.740 --> 1:28:55.400 the work for you. 1:28:55.460 --> 1:28:55.660 Right. 1:28:55.880 --> 1:28:57.480 Let me and Roger deal with this shit. 1:28:57.580 --> 1:28:57.740 Yep. 1:28:58.080 --> 1:29:00.640 So Roger is trying to deal with this shit. 1:29:00.660 --> 1:29:00.979 Of course. 1:29:01.390 --> 1:29:05.130 So, look, this Epstein thing just aggravates the hell out 1:29:05.170 --> 1:29:08.310 of me because I've researched it. I've probably written more 1:29:08.370 --> 1:29:10.550 about it than anyone alive. 1:29:11.130 --> 1:29:11.790 And it is. 1:29:11.970 --> 1:29:12.490 Sounds true. 1:29:12.670 --> 1:29:17.570 The idea that Donald Trump has some untoward or inappropriate relationship. 1:29:17.990 --> 1:29:21.229 with Jeffrey Epstein or that he spent Thanksgiving of 2017 1:29:21.229 --> 1:29:24.790 while he was president of the United States with Epstein 1:29:25.110 --> 1:29:27.650 is absurd. They've cherry picked these emails. 1:29:29.140 --> 1:29:30.350 You're absolutely right. 1:29:30.380 --> 1:29:30.820 Let's come back. 1:29:31.200 --> 1:29:34.020 So what Roger is unwilling to recognize because he's deeply 1:29:34.100 --> 1:29:38.720 invested in Trump is that no appropriate relationship exists like 1:29:38.880 --> 1:29:41.080 with Epstein. You can't have an appropriate. 1:29:41.400 --> 1:29:43.150 Yeah, you, you cannot do it. 1:29:43.160 --> 1:29:46.520 No, no. People who commit crimes, even heinous ones, don't 1:29:46.640 --> 1:29:50.100 automatically deserve to become shunned by everyone in society, and 1:29:50.160 --> 1:29:54.019 redemption is possible for people, but Epstein was an unrepentant criminal. 1:29:54.540 --> 1:29:56.340 He didn't seem to think that what he was doing 1:29:56.400 --> 1:29:59.330 was wrong, and therefore, everyone who knew him and chose 1:29:59.390 --> 1:30:02.650 to stick around, they had an inappropriate relationship with him 1:30:03.070 --> 1:30:03.950 by default. Default. 1:30:04.110 --> 1:30:08.450 He thought he was allowed to, if not commanded to, 1:30:08.550 --> 1:30:11.969 by higher powers, behave the exact way he was doing. 1:30:12.590 --> 1:30:13.090 Yeah. 1:30:13.490 --> 1:30:16.330 Maybe it's fine. If you're a guy who works at 1:30:16.370 --> 1:30:18.930 a shop or something, maybe you can be friendly with 1:30:18.970 --> 1:30:22.259 an unrepentant sex trafficker. But it's fucking insane to extend 1:30:22.300 --> 1:30:24.340 that kind of latitude to someone who wants to be president. 1:30:24.700 --> 1:30:30.580 It's just not okay. There's no possible context where it's like, hey, look. 1:30:31.500 --> 1:30:33.439 We had a cool friendship. 1:30:34.460 --> 1:30:38.090 I mean, even the guy, even the fictional guy, like 1:30:38.130 --> 1:30:40.110 we're out at a bar some night and he's like, man, 1:30:41.110 --> 1:30:44.190 I don't tell anybody this, but I'm actually pretty good 1:30:44.290 --> 1:30:45.710 friends with Jeffrey Epstein. 1:30:46.290 --> 1:30:48.410 I'd be like, I don't want to be friends with 1:30:48.450 --> 1:30:49.070 you anymore. 1:30:49.130 --> 1:30:50.589 No, it's a deficiency of character. 1:30:50.630 --> 1:30:51.470 That's psycho. 1:30:51.670 --> 1:30:51.890 Yeah. 1:30:52.970 --> 1:30:56.070 I guess unless he was like, I have a weird 1:30:56.229 --> 1:30:57.840 perverse fetish towards. 1:30:58.110 --> 1:31:00.229 No, actually, that's worse. Yep. 1:31:00.550 --> 1:31:04.010 I wonder, I don't know. I think it's not possible. Yeah. 1:31:04.350 --> 1:31:06.590 But I wonder if it's possible to just be like, 1:31:06.830 --> 1:31:09.750 I fucking hate this guy. I'm just stealing his money. 1:31:10.470 --> 1:31:12.729 I wonder if that's, I don't think it is. Yeah. 1:31:13.110 --> 1:31:16.860 Because I think when you get into those echelons of money, 1:31:17.620 --> 1:31:19.280 people don't just give away money. 1:31:19.460 --> 1:31:19.700 Yeah. 1:31:19.820 --> 1:31:21.979 You know, I mean, I wonder if at a certain 1:31:22.040 --> 1:31:26.040 point there isn't a situation where it should be an automatic, like, 1:31:26.780 --> 1:31:29.510 animal response of trying to attack this. 1:31:29.830 --> 1:31:30.630 Like, you know what I mean? 1:31:30.710 --> 1:31:33.790 Like if, if he comes near you, if Jeffrey Epstein 1:31:33.870 --> 1:31:36.470 walks near you, there shouldn't even be the chance for 1:31:36.490 --> 1:31:40.470 a conversation. You should like animalistically attack him or run 1:31:41.189 --> 1:31:41.570 or run. 1:31:41.590 --> 1:31:41.770 Yeah. 1:31:41.790 --> 1:31:41.970 Yeah. 1:31:42.189 --> 1:31:43.719 But either way, do you know what I'm saying? Like 1:31:43.760 --> 1:31:45.759 you're describing a fight or flight response. 1:31:45.960 --> 1:31:49.960 This is not a communicate or like, what's your position 1:31:50.140 --> 1:31:52.120 or what do you think about what you're doing? 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:54.940 It's either I'm attacking you or I'm never seeing you 1:31:55.200 --> 1:31:55.600 the end. 1:31:55.960 --> 1:31:58.300 If he asks you for directions on the street, it's 1:31:58.620 --> 1:32:00.760 only acceptable to give him directions if you don't know 1:32:00.800 --> 1:32:01.200 who he is. 1:32:01.240 --> 1:32:01.420 Yeah. 1:32:02.090 --> 1:32:04.150 Or to give him directions to a hole with a 1:32:04.189 --> 1:32:05.510 bunch of fucking spikes in it. 1:32:05.570 --> 1:32:08.470 Yeah. No matter how you slice it, and however Alex 1:32:08.490 --> 1:32:11.030 and Roger want to spin whatever emails come out, Epstein 1:32:11.070 --> 1:32:13.110 first got in trouble with the police in Florida about 1:32:13.170 --> 1:32:16.630 sexually exploiting minors in 2005, and the whole getting kicked 1:32:16.670 --> 1:32:20.450 out of Mar-a-Lago shit wasn't until 2007. I can't even 1:32:20.510 --> 1:32:23.769 imagine what horrible shit Roger knows. Like, he. 1:32:24.950 --> 1:32:29.410 It's... No, this is this is one of those times where, 1:32:30.350 --> 1:32:33.120 you know, for the longest time we've all lived in 1:32:33.140 --> 1:32:37.460 this space of like these conspiracy theories are ridiculous. all 1:32:37.479 --> 1:32:40.360 of this stuff is overblown or it's a distraction from 1:32:40.420 --> 1:32:43.929 just being in the government. This is one specific thing 1:32:43.970 --> 1:32:46.150 where it's like, we all know this. It should be 1:32:46.229 --> 1:32:47.970 fairly easy to handle, honestly. 1:32:48.050 --> 1:32:50.810 Right. And it's still something that people are succumbing to 1:32:50.850 --> 1:32:54.229 conspiracy around. And that is definitely true. And it, it, 1:32:54.810 --> 1:32:57.530 it is not like, I don't think anyone is well 1:32:57.590 --> 1:33:02.550 served by like, you know, playing into that. No, but like, 1:33:03.439 --> 1:33:08.089 There's also, like, so much more that's going on here 1:33:08.100 --> 1:33:09.870 than any of the other instances. 1:33:09.890 --> 1:33:10.190 Totally. 1:33:10.250 --> 1:33:12.110 Like, Pizzagate and all that other shit. 1:33:12.290 --> 1:33:13.330 No, it's ridiculous. 1:33:13.510 --> 1:33:16.849 Yeah. So, Alex is, like, he's trying to push this 1:33:16.930 --> 1:33:21.290 image that the Democrats don't want the Epstein files released. Sure. 1:33:21.630 --> 1:33:24.570 Now that, like, it looks like it's going to happen, 1:33:24.590 --> 1:33:26.150 the Democrats don't want it. They're trying to stop it. 1:33:26.610 --> 1:33:30.900 So, Roger, why then... Did Trump go, say, from releasing? 1:33:30.920 --> 1:33:32.470 I know it's a whole bunch of suits and crap 1:33:32.520 --> 1:33:33.590 and bull and everything. 1:33:33.620 --> 1:33:33.990 I get it. 1:33:34.670 --> 1:33:35.490 It's not a case. 1:33:35.510 --> 1:33:38.390 It's not a file. It's a bunch of stuff. 1:33:39.189 --> 1:33:41.490 Why then move to the deer in the headlights and 1:33:41.510 --> 1:33:43.790 all the stuff that made everybody pique their interest and 1:33:43.830 --> 1:33:45.810 created the Streisand effect? And where do you see this going? 1:33:45.950 --> 1:33:47.689 Because I'm sure you know now the Democrats now don't 1:33:47.729 --> 1:33:49.950 want to vote to release it. And Democrat judges want 1:33:49.970 --> 1:33:52.130 to block it being released because we know who's in there, 1:33:52.810 --> 1:33:53.439 the Democrats. 1:33:53.890 --> 1:33:56.990 So the Epstein Files Transparency Act passed the House with 1:33:57.270 --> 1:34:01.010 only Republican Clay Higgins voting against it. And Chuck Schumer 1:34:01.070 --> 1:34:04.270 called for it to pass the Senate by unanimous consent. 1:34:04.290 --> 1:34:04.510 Sure. 1:34:05.130 --> 1:34:08.890 Every single Democrat in Congress and all but one Republican 1:34:08.950 --> 1:34:12.690 voted for this to be released. Previously, Mike Johnson had 1:34:12.770 --> 1:34:15.990 not sworn in the new Democratic representative who won a 1:34:16.010 --> 1:34:20.610 special election in September, blaming the delay on the government shutdown. Sure. 1:34:21.020 --> 1:34:26.769 That representative, Adelida Grijalva, ended up being the 218th signature 1:34:26.979 --> 1:34:29.510 on the Epstein Act, which is the number that the 1:34:29.530 --> 1:34:32.630 House needs to require them to take up a discharge petition. 1:34:32.689 --> 1:34:32.929 Fun. 1:34:33.470 --> 1:34:38.450 There are 435 members of the House, and of the 1:34:38.450 --> 1:34:41.330 218 who signed on for this act, how many do 1:34:41.370 --> 1:34:45.790 you think are Republicans? Nine. 1:34:46.370 --> 1:34:46.710 Four. 1:34:47.990 --> 1:34:51.120 Every Democrat in the House said release that shit. And 1:34:51.160 --> 1:34:54.340 the only Republicans who were on board were Marjorie Taylor Greene, 1:34:54.560 --> 1:34:56.519 who Trump went on to attack to the point where 1:34:56.540 --> 1:35:01.650 she now quit Congress, Lauren Boebert, Nancy Mace, and Thomas Massey. 1:35:02.490 --> 1:35:05.450 Any of the other 200 or so Republicans could have 1:35:05.470 --> 1:35:08.110 signed on at any point and gotten it to the 1:35:08.110 --> 1:35:11.290 218 number that they needed, but they knew that Trump 1:35:11.310 --> 1:35:13.670 was pissed off about this and that he would attack 1:35:13.729 --> 1:35:16.599 them if they did that. So they were holding back 1:35:16.660 --> 1:35:19.360 and kind of hoping that Mike Johnson could delay seating 1:35:19.380 --> 1:35:21.810 the new Democratic rep, Or that Trump would be able 1:35:21.860 --> 1:35:25.200 to scare Marjorie Taylor Greene or sway Boebert away from 1:35:25.580 --> 1:35:28.460 signing on to this thing. When it became clear that 1:35:28.960 --> 1:35:32.420 this end result was inevitable, then they all voted for 1:35:32.479 --> 1:35:32.820 it to pass. 1:35:32.840 --> 1:35:33.660 Funny how that works. 1:35:33.700 --> 1:35:36.099 But if there was another option, it would have been 1:35:36.220 --> 1:35:40.080 for Republicans and all of the Democrats who were voting 1:35:40.140 --> 1:35:42.309 for these files to be released. And they wouldn't be 1:35:42.320 --> 1:35:45.900 able to hit their number. This isn't to say that 1:35:45.939 --> 1:35:49.330 there's no Democratic politicians that are likely to be implicated 1:35:49.390 --> 1:35:52.010 by whatever gets released. Just that the idea that the 1:35:52.050 --> 1:35:54.650 Democrats are trying to stop the Transparency Act is a 1:35:54.750 --> 1:35:57.760 shameful fiction that Alex is peddling in order to carry 1:35:57.800 --> 1:36:01.459 water for Trump, who by Alex's own admission is covering 1:36:01.560 --> 1:36:04.220 up the Epstein crimes because billionaires asked him to. 1:36:04.360 --> 1:36:04.500 Yep. 1:36:04.820 --> 1:36:05.599 This is pathetic. 1:36:05.900 --> 1:36:06.099 Yeah. 1:36:06.930 --> 1:36:10.849 Yeah, I mean, it tells you everything. Like, it admits everything. 1:36:10.910 --> 1:36:14.830 At the very least, it admits that the Republicans in 1:36:14.910 --> 1:36:20.750 power as it stands feel like holding Trump accountable would 1:36:20.830 --> 1:36:23.309 make them so weak that they cannot compete. 1:36:24.110 --> 1:36:27.430 Right? And that's part of why Marjorie Taylor Greene was like, 1:36:27.570 --> 1:36:28.170 I'm quitting. 1:36:28.450 --> 1:36:28.630 Right. 1:36:28.710 --> 1:36:33.070 It's because she's like, in the next midterm, I'm gonna 1:36:33.090 --> 1:36:35.530 just have Trump fucking with me. Yep. 1:36:35.790 --> 1:36:36.990 Like I nonstop. 1:36:37.070 --> 1:36:39.620 Yeah. I've put a big, and you know, sure. Some 1:36:39.640 --> 1:36:42.240 of that's a political calculation on her part, but like, 1:36:42.600 --> 1:36:43.070 it's true. 1:36:43.910 --> 1:36:44.450 Yeah, no. 1:36:44.510 --> 1:36:48.340 All of the Republican people in the House know that. Yep. 1:36:48.680 --> 1:36:50.680 They all know that they would be in the exact 1:36:50.700 --> 1:36:51.340 same position. 1:36:51.720 --> 1:36:54.139 No, she's she is. I don't know. 1:36:54.460 --> 1:36:58.610 I've I'm so shocked to compliment her above most of 1:36:58.630 --> 1:37:01.429 the rest of Congress because this is the right move. 1:37:01.450 --> 1:37:04.070 You got to go away to come back if if 1:37:04.210 --> 1:37:09.220 this blows over. She is positioned, one, with a lot 1:37:09.260 --> 1:37:13.639 of money now that she gathered in a very short 1:37:13.660 --> 1:37:15.560 period of time, which tells you a lot about how 1:37:15.600 --> 1:37:21.020 great government is. And then she's got the bona fides 1:37:21.100 --> 1:37:23.200 to be like, hey, this guy sucks again. 1:37:23.220 --> 1:37:26.210 I can just scream more. I can go back to work. 1:37:26.270 --> 1:37:28.870 Yeah, it's a tactical position that you can say, like, 1:37:28.930 --> 1:37:29.830 that is the right call. 1:37:29.850 --> 1:37:30.490 That's the right call. 1:37:31.470 --> 1:37:36.380 Not voting for Trump very publicly in 2024. Totally. It's 1:37:36.420 --> 1:37:38.700 going to get you some kind of heat and it 1:37:38.760 --> 1:37:41.689 might look like you're a loser and you're not part 1:37:41.729 --> 1:37:44.950 of the cool kid table, but it's ultimately the best 1:37:44.990 --> 1:37:46.170 thing you can do for yourself. 1:37:46.270 --> 1:37:49.790 Yeah. Think five years ahead. Don't think next month. 1:37:49.990 --> 1:37:53.160 Like that's ultimately what everybody is looking at is a 1:37:53.220 --> 1:37:57.740 bunch of people thinking about next month and nobody thinking like, well, 1:37:57.800 --> 1:37:59.200 what happens in five years? 1:38:00.040 --> 1:38:03.250 And I think that she probably rightly points, understands that 1:38:03.270 --> 1:38:06.210 there's nothing left for her within this government yeah that's 1:38:06.229 --> 1:38:09.670 definitely true she could probably start a show or something 1:38:09.750 --> 1:38:11.049 and yeah you know. 1:38:11.060 --> 1:38:14.059 Yeah write a book there is another thing to there 1:38:14.120 --> 1:38:16.139 is another argument to be made that she wasn't making 1:38:16.180 --> 1:38:18.140 the right move so much as she was pushed off 1:38:18.180 --> 1:38:18.740 at the right. 1:38:18.620 --> 1:38:22.900 Time yeah yeah yeah she cut bait yeah it was 1:38:22.970 --> 1:38:26.170 like your your fishing line is snagged on a branch 1:38:26.229 --> 1:38:28.469 yep just just let. 1:38:28.330 --> 1:38:30.990 It go just let it go yeah Go somewhere else. 1:38:31.670 --> 1:38:35.210 So, Roger, he's like, that's all the dams. It's all 1:38:35.229 --> 1:38:35.670 the Dems. 1:38:35.710 --> 1:38:36.349 It's all the Dems. 1:38:36.370 --> 1:38:37.689 The Dems are the ones who are bad here. 1:38:37.710 --> 1:38:38.269 Makes sense. 1:38:38.810 --> 1:38:40.110 Who really is guilty here? 1:38:40.130 --> 1:38:40.350 Who? 1:38:40.370 --> 1:38:41.680 Who was on the island? 1:38:42.020 --> 1:38:48.799 Bill Clinton, Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, 1:38:49.020 --> 1:38:52.260 all Democrats. Go to the Federal Election Commission records. Who 1:38:52.300 --> 1:38:57.009 was taking big bucks from Epstein? Schumer, the Democrat Senatorial Committee. 1:38:57.030 --> 1:39:00.050 You won't find any money to Republicans, and you won't 1:39:00.710 --> 1:39:02.790 find any Republicans on the island. 1:39:02.810 --> 1:39:06.620 And in the WikiLeaks... Seven, eight, nine-year-old children for John 1:39:06.660 --> 1:39:10.250 Podesta's entertainment are being liberated to a secretive house in 1:39:10.270 --> 1:39:15.490 the woods in northern New York for his entertainment and 1:39:15.530 --> 1:39:16.770 for Aleister Crowley time. 1:39:17.130 --> 1:39:18.729 So it's all over them. 1:39:19.170 --> 1:39:19.950 It's constant. 1:39:19.970 --> 1:39:22.590 There's never exactly. This is insane. 1:39:22.610 --> 1:39:25.990 We're doing Pizzagate. Alex is just hearkening back to Pizzagate. 1:39:26.030 --> 1:39:28.089 I mean, I feel like that should have gotten boos. 1:39:28.250 --> 1:39:28.450 Yeah. 1:39:28.470 --> 1:39:30.410 I feel like the people in the studio should be. 1:39:30.370 --> 1:39:35.189 Like, boo! Yeah, Roger should have been like, yeah, come on, 1:39:35.270 --> 1:39:38.090 don't do boo. So Roger can yell about Clinton and 1:39:38.110 --> 1:39:41.299 Larry Summers and now they're Democrats all he wants, but 1:39:41.479 --> 1:39:44.660 it just doesn't work as a deflection. No one cares 1:39:44.900 --> 1:39:48.179 because they're all fine with Clinton and Summers facing consequences, too. 1:39:48.920 --> 1:39:51.930 No one is doing hysterical radio shows trying to defend 1:39:52.010 --> 1:39:54.870 Clinton or Summers. And if people were, I'd probably think 1:39:54.890 --> 1:39:56.670 that they were as sleazy as Roger looks. 1:39:56.790 --> 1:39:57.330 Absolutely. 1:39:57.430 --> 1:40:01.610 Like you are defending someone who's in a position of 1:40:03.490 --> 1:40:05.530 the same as like Larry Summers and. 1:40:05.870 --> 1:40:09.330 There are so many people. There are so many people. 1:40:09.510 --> 1:40:12.750 There's like. Easily more than 10,000 people. 1:40:13.330 --> 1:40:15.870 I don't understand why you have to be like, man, 1:40:16.310 --> 1:40:21.450 this one guy's so special that if we just get 1:40:21.510 --> 1:40:23.710 rid of half of these guys, you got another guy 1:40:23.750 --> 1:40:25.670 that looks exactly like them waiting. 1:40:25.950 --> 1:40:29.349 Well, if you're talking about Trump, I think for Roger, 1:40:29.520 --> 1:40:32.160 it's that they're friends of decades. He probably knows some 1:40:32.200 --> 1:40:35.360 shit about him that gives him leverage and Trump is 1:40:35.420 --> 1:40:38.380 willing to abuse the justice system to get him out 1:40:38.420 --> 1:40:39.059 of prison for crimes. 1:40:39.080 --> 1:40:39.479 Oh, hell yeah. 1:40:39.950 --> 1:40:42.830 So like, I think for, for, you know, for Roger, 1:40:42.890 --> 1:40:43.880 Trump is pretty special. 1:40:43.950 --> 1:40:44.730 No, absolutely. 1:40:44.770 --> 1:40:45.020 Yeah. 1:40:45.080 --> 1:40:49.879 No, again, Roger makes perfect sense. Anybody behaving in Roger's position, 1:40:49.920 --> 1:40:50.979 the way Roger's behaving. 1:40:51.040 --> 1:40:51.760 Yeah, of course. 1:40:51.880 --> 1:40:52.080 Yeah. 1:40:52.220 --> 1:40:52.860 Yeah, absolutely. 1:40:52.920 --> 1:40:54.160 He's a piece of shit and he's doing piece of 1:40:54.180 --> 1:40:55.050 shit stuff. Yeah. 1:40:55.160 --> 1:40:58.450 I'm talking about like how many other people are like 1:40:58.490 --> 1:41:01.570 how Trump or Alex is trying to rally people around Trump. 1:41:01.590 --> 1:41:04.690 And it's like, man, just get a new asshole, you know, 1:41:04.729 --> 1:41:07.849 like we were talking about. There's so many more of them. 1:41:07.870 --> 1:41:12.519 I think that Alex might be, like, that's why that 1:41:12.620 --> 1:41:15.939 little tiny kernel of, like, weird conspiracy thinking gets into 1:41:15.979 --> 1:41:17.950 your brain, where it's like, there's gotta be some kind 1:41:17.970 --> 1:41:21.250 of blackmail on Alex that Roger has that's keeping him 1:41:21.290 --> 1:41:23.830 in line. Cause it's so dumb to not leave. 1:41:24.030 --> 1:41:25.010 I mean, come on. 1:41:25.910 --> 1:41:30.060 But I think maybe like the desire to like, not 1:41:30.140 --> 1:41:33.320 just find another asshole is that it would reveal how 1:41:33.500 --> 1:41:35.519 thin the game has been for a decade. 1:41:35.820 --> 1:41:40.200 Right. You know, I know I, I, and you know what? 1:41:40.820 --> 1:41:43.129 I think that is, there is a certain prejudice. 1:41:43.170 --> 1:41:46.309 I think that I have there, which is like, The 1:41:46.430 --> 1:41:50.130 idea to me that you don't have it already, you 1:41:50.150 --> 1:41:53.210 don't have the thinness figured out by now is an 1:41:53.290 --> 1:41:56.850 indictment of you, no longer of their abilities. 1:41:56.870 --> 1:41:57.910 You know what I mean? Sure. 1:41:58.110 --> 1:42:01.360 Like, if you can't see it by now, I don't 1:42:01.380 --> 1:42:02.540 know if you're ever going to see it. 1:42:02.820 --> 1:42:07.780 No, that's true. That's true. And I struggle to imagine 1:42:07.840 --> 1:42:11.980 who Alex's audience even is at this point. Like, I 1:42:12.040 --> 1:42:15.780 can't imagine someone not finding someone who's a little bit, 1:42:16.770 --> 1:42:18.440 More coherent. Makes more sense. 1:42:18.640 --> 1:42:18.900 Yeah. 1:42:18.960 --> 1:42:19.840 Isn't this embarrassing? 1:42:19.860 --> 1:42:21.180 You don't have to go far. 1:42:21.520 --> 1:42:21.760 No. 1:42:22.260 --> 1:42:23.820 It's a short walk, man. Yeah. 1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:24.160 Yeah. 1:42:24.479 --> 1:42:26.020 Saw people all over that rumble. 1:42:26.040 --> 1:42:27.340 There's so many people. 1:42:27.460 --> 1:42:27.620 Yep. 1:42:28.220 --> 1:42:31.550 So Roger talks a little bit about the economy because 1:42:31.590 --> 1:42:32.570 that's really like. 1:42:33.010 --> 1:42:33.929 That's where we're all thinking. 1:42:33.970 --> 1:42:36.150 Let's not fucking talk about Epstein. Let's talk about the economy. 1:42:36.689 --> 1:42:40.470 Food prices have come down. Yes. Gas prices have come down, 1:42:40.510 --> 1:42:43.640 but food prices are still not as low as they 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:46.410 were in in the final year of Trump's first term 1:42:46.490 --> 1:42:51.290 as president. So although things are better, they're not so 1:42:51.370 --> 1:42:54.500 much better that the American people are yet feeling the 1:42:54.540 --> 1:42:57.020 incredible job this president is doing. It does take time. 1:42:57.420 --> 1:42:58.500 It does take effort. 1:42:59.650 --> 1:43:00.850 Take the tariffs, for example. 1:43:00.890 --> 1:43:04.519 Back in June, we had the first month in which 1:43:04.939 --> 1:43:08.320 the American people had an actual surplus, meaning the government 1:43:08.360 --> 1:43:11.200 took in more money than it paid out. That is 1:43:11.220 --> 1:43:14.720 an extraordinary accomplishment. But the president can't turn around an 1:43:14.800 --> 1:43:18.300 ocean liner in less than a year. He's been president 1:43:18.360 --> 1:43:21.090 for less than a year. And these things do take time. 1:43:21.590 --> 1:43:25.170 I find these attacks on Tucker Carlson to be repugnant, 1:43:25.530 --> 1:43:29.070 particularly when they're coming from people who were never MAGA, 1:43:29.350 --> 1:43:32.190 people who supported Ted Cruz for president, and then they 1:43:32.229 --> 1:43:35.070 supported Nikki Haley for president. Now they're trying to tell 1:43:35.130 --> 1:43:38.740 us that we're, you and I, and people like us 1:43:38.979 --> 1:43:41.680 who were from Donald Trump from the very beginning, that 1:43:41.740 --> 1:43:44.600 we're not MAGA, people like Tucker Carlson. 1:43:44.900 --> 1:43:47.100 That is outrageous. I agree. 1:43:47.840 --> 1:43:50.150 So we need, I'm telling you, five-point votes just on 1:43:50.189 --> 1:43:53.110 this alone. Trump just needs to come out and say, 1:43:53.130 --> 1:43:55.130 I support the First Amendment, I support Tucker Carlson. 1:43:55.750 --> 1:43:57.799 Trump's already been pretty clear that he's hostile to the 1:43:57.840 --> 1:43:59.799 First Amendment. I was going to say. Alex just pretended 1:43:59.840 --> 1:44:02.380 like that didn't happen. I'm sure he could come out 1:44:02.400 --> 1:44:04.880 and say he loves speech and Tucker Carlson now, and 1:44:05.100 --> 1:44:07.820 Alex would swoon, but the whole flag-burning thing was, by 1:44:08.020 --> 1:44:12.180 Alex's own definition, a flagrant attack on free speech. Trump 1:44:12.200 --> 1:44:15.019 signed an executive order telling the DOJ to prosecute people 1:44:15.040 --> 1:44:19.090 for burning flags, which is explicitly protected speech. Alex doesn't 1:44:19.130 --> 1:44:21.229 care about the principles behind any of this shit. It's 1:44:21.390 --> 1:44:24.110 all a game. And let's think for a second. If 1:44:24.150 --> 1:44:27.330 tariffs are driving a ton more money coming into the U.S. government, 1:44:27.530 --> 1:44:30.230 where's that money coming from? It's not coming from the 1:44:30.290 --> 1:44:32.840 companies just deciding to shoulder that cost themselves. 1:44:33.000 --> 1:44:34.000 They don't tend to do that. 1:44:34.020 --> 1:44:34.760 It's coming from you. 1:44:34.979 --> 1:44:36.280 They tend to make us do that. 1:44:36.500 --> 1:44:39.660 NPR cited numbers from the Budget Lab at Yale showing 1:44:39.680 --> 1:44:42.700 an increase on average tax for imported goods to the 1:44:42.740 --> 1:44:44.519 United States at 18% in November, up from 2.4% before 1:44:44.540 --> 1:44:52.009 Trump got back into office. That price is getting passed 1:44:52.110 --> 1:44:54.309 on to the consumer, and the tariffs have shown no 1:44:54.410 --> 1:44:58.610 sign of encouraging domestic manufacturing and a turning away from imports. 1:44:58.930 --> 1:45:02.510 It's all just a tax. Also, as of the time 1:45:02.530 --> 1:45:04.849 that we're recording this, we're still waiting to hear back 1:45:04.890 --> 1:45:07.450 from the Supreme Court about whether Trump's terror shit is 1:45:07.610 --> 1:45:11.500 even legal. He might have committed a giant crime. 1:45:11.680 --> 1:45:15.840 The comical ability for them to do a thing for 1:45:15.920 --> 1:45:17.860 several years only then to. 1:45:17.780 --> 1:45:21.650 Discover it is illegal is... Absolutely absurd. 1:45:21.670 --> 1:45:25.670 Well, not several years. Sure. But it's also, it's interesting 1:45:25.729 --> 1:45:30.400 because Roger's argument is essentially that these tariffs are bringing 1:45:30.490 --> 1:45:31.300 in more money. 1:45:31.310 --> 1:45:31.580 Yeah. 1:45:31.880 --> 1:45:32.620 And that's great. 1:45:33.000 --> 1:45:33.240 Right. 1:45:33.700 --> 1:45:38.440 But Trump's lawyers, their argument to the Supreme Court to 1:45:38.560 --> 1:45:41.980 make the case that this isn't a tax is that 1:45:42.020 --> 1:45:43.679 it's purely regulatory. 1:45:43.820 --> 1:45:44.040 Sure. 1:45:44.120 --> 1:45:45.780 And it is not a revenue thing. 1:45:45.960 --> 1:45:46.140 Hey. 1:45:46.280 --> 1:45:47.380 That's just a coincidence. 1:45:47.500 --> 1:45:53.860 Still further- Still further, that revenue from you will not 1:45:53.900 --> 1:45:57.030 be going to you. It will be absolutely invested in 1:45:57.070 --> 1:45:58.230 the pockets of billionaires. 1:45:58.290 --> 1:46:01.510 Yeah. What I'm saying is essentially like Roger's position would 1:46:01.590 --> 1:46:04.550 lose the Supreme Court case that Trump is trying to make. 1:46:05.010 --> 1:46:06.290 Yeah, oh, that's it. 1:46:06.630 --> 1:46:08.880 You know, it is kind of interesting now that we 1:46:08.910 --> 1:46:14.099 have almost pathological reverse trickle-down economics, right? 1:46:14.680 --> 1:46:19.220 So the imports, taxed heavily, we pay for that, right? 1:46:19.500 --> 1:46:20.620 That goes to the government. 1:46:20.700 --> 1:46:25.639 The government gives that money to billionaires. Billionaires then charge 1:46:25.680 --> 1:46:29.880 higher prices. So they get double money coming and going, man. 1:46:30.280 --> 1:46:32.490 Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, look, it's not good. 1:46:32.510 --> 1:46:36.010 It's probably bad. This is probably not a sustainable system. 1:46:36.030 --> 1:46:38.290 But you know what it is? Populist. 1:46:38.750 --> 1:46:39.849 That does sound true. 1:46:39.870 --> 1:46:47.180 Yeah. So, Roger is a little too positive. That'll happen. 1:46:47.479 --> 1:46:52.219 Alex has to recognize the box he's in. He can't 1:46:52.320 --> 1:46:56.420 pretend like Trump isn't doing a cover-up. But Roger can. 1:46:57.479 --> 1:46:57.939 I love it. 1:46:58.220 --> 1:47:00.780 And Alex kind of gets a little bit fed up 1:47:00.820 --> 1:47:01.099 with him. 1:47:01.160 --> 1:47:01.729 Cause yeah. 1:47:02.060 --> 1:47:05.170 And is, I really think, listen, listen carefully to this. 1:47:05.970 --> 1:47:09.090 I would, I would urge cash to focus on the 1:47:09.150 --> 1:47:12.370 mission at hand and drop these lawsuits. If he asked 1:47:12.390 --> 1:47:14.210 for my advice, look, I think he's a good man. 1:47:14.570 --> 1:47:15.050 I like him. 1:47:15.370 --> 1:47:16.800 I supported him for that job. 1:47:17.140 --> 1:47:20.519 Just to clarify, he's talking about like Kyle Serafin and 1:47:21.040 --> 1:47:24.640 Elijah Schaefer getting sued by cash Patel's girlfriend. Right, right, right. 1:47:24.650 --> 1:47:27.830 For the Israeli honey trap Mossad operation stuff. 1:47:28.729 --> 1:47:32.920 I don't quite understand what's happening here. But there's a 1:47:33.180 --> 1:47:36.240 larger mission here. And I don't think the president is 1:47:36.280 --> 1:47:39.960 getting enough credit for taking on the globalists. I don't 1:47:39.979 --> 1:47:42.820 think he's getting enough credit for shutting down the border. 1:47:42.840 --> 1:47:45.380 I don't think he's getting enough credit for the efforts 1:47:45.420 --> 1:47:47.780 in places like Chicago and Washington, D.C. 1:47:48.610 --> 1:47:50.690 Roger, let me just stop you. I know you do 1:47:50.710 --> 1:47:51.630 dozens of interviews a day. 1:47:52.070 --> 1:47:54.070 You're a workhorse. Trump wouldn't be in power without you. 1:47:54.810 --> 1:47:59.830 Our audience knows the great things he's done. This is really, 1:48:00.370 --> 1:48:00.730 on average. 1:48:00.770 --> 1:48:01.410 Very informed people. 1:48:01.900 --> 1:48:06.640 I'm asking you, big picture, what Trump can do PR-wise 1:48:06.700 --> 1:48:10.180 to not let the leftist media focus on schisms and 1:48:10.220 --> 1:48:13.400 then make those distractions the bigger issues. I'm asking you strategy, 1:48:13.670 --> 1:48:16.070 if you were talking to Trump, about better ways to 1:48:16.110 --> 1:48:16.990 energize his base. 1:48:17.510 --> 1:48:21.260 Understood correctly, Alex is trying to very subtly tell Roger 1:48:21.320 --> 1:48:24.860 to cut the shit. Roger's acting like Alex's listeners are 1:48:24.900 --> 1:48:28.060 all marks, and it's a little too obvious. Alex is 1:48:28.100 --> 1:48:31.689 trying to be as softball as possible, while acknowledging that 1:48:31.710 --> 1:48:35.809 the Epstein situation is actually happening, and Roger can't stop 1:48:35.870 --> 1:48:38.729 trying to pivot over to praising Trump for other stuff 1:48:38.770 --> 1:48:42.479 he's done. Like, he deserves credit for taking on the globalists. 1:48:42.800 --> 1:48:44.220 These tariffs are working. 1:48:44.260 --> 1:48:47.500 Have you not seen the tulips this year? 1:48:47.880 --> 1:48:50.520 Even by Infowars standards, this is tone deaf. 1:48:50.560 --> 1:48:50.950 Yeah, this is bad. 1:48:50.960 --> 1:48:52.120 The way Roger's coming in. 1:48:52.140 --> 1:48:52.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:48:53.100 --> 1:48:55.820 And to be clear, Trump does have a PR problem, 1:48:55.939 --> 1:48:58.560 but he has more problems than just that. It's not 1:48:58.600 --> 1:49:01.530 that the globalists or the left is whipping up division 1:49:01.550 --> 1:49:04.230 where it doesn't exist. What's happening is that the Trump 1:49:04.270 --> 1:49:07.750 coalition is broken because they fundamentally disagree with each other. 1:49:08.540 --> 1:49:11.780 One side is cool with covering up child sex trafficking 1:49:11.840 --> 1:49:13.650 rings if it means they can hold on to power. 1:49:14.010 --> 1:49:16.890 The other side is against that. One side believes that 1:49:17.050 --> 1:49:19.810 all immigration is evil and all immigrants should be forcefully 1:49:19.850 --> 1:49:22.470 deported because only white people should be here, while the 1:49:22.510 --> 1:49:25.850 other side understands that our economy and country doesn't function 1:49:25.890 --> 1:49:30.290 without immigration. One side believes that the category of white 1:49:30.430 --> 1:49:34.460 can include Jewish people, and the other does not. These 1:49:34.520 --> 1:49:38.080 are not fake conflicts being stirred up to destabilize Trump's base. 1:49:38.439 --> 1:49:41.679 They're differences that have always been there, but they haven't 1:49:41.720 --> 1:49:46.260 been a crisis. Their media space elevated too many racists, Nazis, 1:49:46.420 --> 1:49:49.880 and people who actually won't accept sex trafficking ring cover-ups, 1:49:50.280 --> 1:49:53.200 and now the hardliners in these spaces have the kind 1:49:53.240 --> 1:49:55.820 of audiences that make them relevant, and they pose a 1:49:55.860 --> 1:49:59.809 threat to Trump's coalition. Trump has a PR problem in 1:49:59.850 --> 1:50:02.770 that these fights happening between his fans are nasty stuff, 1:50:03.100 --> 1:50:05.360 And they reveal that a lot of them are horrible people. 1:50:05.740 --> 1:50:08.340 But his actual problem is getting some of these people 1:50:08.400 --> 1:50:12.320 to compromise on things like racism or sex trafficking cover-ups. 1:50:13.150 --> 1:50:17.260 You're not gonna get these people to compromise. Marjorie Taylor 1:50:17.300 --> 1:50:20.939 Greene retired from Congress rather than associate further with Trump, 1:50:21.200 --> 1:50:23.820 who had called her a traitor for signing on to 1:50:23.840 --> 1:50:25.340 the Epstein Transparency Act. 1:50:25.420 --> 1:50:25.760 Yeah. 1:50:26.060 --> 1:50:28.260 In her resignation post, she said that one of the 1:50:28.320 --> 1:50:30.300 reasons she was doing it was because Trump was going 1:50:30.320 --> 1:50:32.349 to attack her in the midterms and she wanted to 1:50:32.430 --> 1:50:35.770 spare people from the ugliness of that. Nick Fuentes isn't 1:50:35.810 --> 1:50:38.710 coming back onto the Trump team. And he tweeted, quote, 1:50:39.010 --> 1:50:41.689 Marjorie Greene was forced out of Congress by Donald Trump 1:50:41.990 --> 1:50:44.990 for criticizing Israel and voting to release the Epstein files. 1:50:45.580 --> 1:50:48.820 In other words, Trump destroyed his biggest loyalist for putting 1:50:48.860 --> 1:50:52.520 America first. This is why I didn't vote. MAGA is dead. 1:50:53.479 --> 1:50:56.510 For better and for worse, the extreme right wing has 1:50:56.590 --> 1:50:59.210 created a certain number of figures that know that their 1:50:59.250 --> 1:51:03.189 brand relies on them not compromising. And that isn't going away. 1:51:03.830 --> 1:51:06.340 There are a lot of, there's a lot of power 1:51:06.400 --> 1:51:08.519 and money to be had in whoever can carve up 1:51:08.580 --> 1:51:11.800 the biggest piece of Trump's political corpse. And now that 1:51:11.840 --> 1:51:15.160 his numbers are dropping enough that even Alex is scared, 1:51:15.620 --> 1:51:18.769 all of these factions in the base, they all hated 1:51:18.810 --> 1:51:21.809 each other all along. They're fine with trying to fight 1:51:21.850 --> 1:51:23.849 with each other to secure a bigger chunk. 1:51:23.970 --> 1:51:24.930 Yeah, absolutely. 1:51:25.030 --> 1:51:26.660 That's, What's all happening? 1:51:26.840 --> 1:51:30.870 If the, listen, everybody is now lived through a lot 1:51:30.910 --> 1:51:33.290 of compromises, pretty sick of compromises. 1:51:33.450 --> 1:51:33.889 They suck. 1:51:34.370 --> 1:51:37.910 So now everybody's really into people who don't compromise and 1:51:37.990 --> 1:51:41.870 whoever has the most people who don't compromise is the winner. 1:51:42.210 --> 1:51:47.120 Especially among Alex's like audience who have been whipped up 1:51:47.160 --> 1:51:50.960 into a frenzy about the idea that there's child sacrifice 1:51:51.020 --> 1:51:54.720 and blood drinking going on and in basements around the 1:51:54.780 --> 1:51:58.140 world and that migrants are an invasion force that the 1:51:58.220 --> 1:52:01.550 left is using to try and like overthrow the country 1:52:02.050 --> 1:52:05.229 like that's the kind of thing that these people have 1:52:05.270 --> 1:52:11.420 internalized yeah and Alex's position is now being like, let's 1:52:11.479 --> 1:52:14.140 negotiate a little bit on some of this stuff. Don't 1:52:14.160 --> 1:52:16.940 be so hard line on these devil issues. 1:52:17.020 --> 1:52:21.100 Right, right. And Roger being like, hey, it takes time. 1:52:21.860 --> 1:52:23.969 You guys are the guys who said on day one, 1:52:24.010 --> 1:52:25.330 he'll go fuck everybody up. 1:52:25.550 --> 1:52:27.630 I wish I had cut this clip out, but I didn't. 1:52:27.810 --> 1:52:33.310 But Alex and Roger explicitly say, yeah, he said that 1:52:33.350 --> 1:52:37.830 day one stuff, but we all knew that was campaign stuff. Great. Great. 1:52:38.110 --> 1:52:38.309 Yeah. 1:52:38.450 --> 1:52:38.689 Cool. 1:52:38.750 --> 1:52:39.610 We all knew he was a liar. 1:52:39.650 --> 1:52:42.229 We all know he was lying from day one, from 1:52:42.290 --> 1:52:43.270 when he's a liar. 1:52:43.479 --> 1:52:45.880 So what I see here is essentially you have a 1:52:45.939 --> 1:52:49.139 number of these groups that are all turning on each other. 1:52:49.760 --> 1:52:53.140 And it's not because of media spin. It's because they 1:52:53.160 --> 1:52:55.380 hate each other. And they always have. And they've put 1:52:55.420 --> 1:52:58.320 that aside. in order to amass power on the right wing. 1:52:58.340 --> 1:53:01.500 Because they all correctly assess each other as sucking. 1:53:01.640 --> 1:53:01.820 Yeah. 1:53:01.860 --> 1:53:04.140 They all suck, and they all know they suck. 1:53:04.240 --> 1:53:06.400 And they're all using each other, and they know the 1:53:06.460 --> 1:53:08.800 other people are using them too, and they've made an 1:53:08.939 --> 1:53:13.080 uneasy alliance that is no longer tenable. Yep. And Alex 1:53:13.400 --> 1:53:16.420 is like, I guess decided that his best bet is 1:53:16.460 --> 1:53:21.299 just palling around with Roger and pretending it's not a problem. 1:53:21.540 --> 1:53:24.300 Like the ship isn't sinking, everything is fine, nothing to 1:53:24.340 --> 1:53:24.680 see here. 1:53:24.780 --> 1:53:25.400 Nothing to see here. 1:53:26.189 --> 1:53:29.260 It's not going to work. Like I said, I don't 1:53:29.300 --> 1:53:33.160 even know who could possibly be an excited Alex listener anymore. 1:53:33.479 --> 1:53:33.840 I don't know. 1:53:34.340 --> 1:53:37.960 Unless you're chemically dependent on Shilajit. 1:53:38.960 --> 1:53:42.710 I mean, I wonder how much of it truly could 1:53:42.770 --> 1:53:46.710 be at the level of chemical dependence now for people 1:53:46.729 --> 1:53:49.370 who are continuing to pay attention to Alex. 1:53:49.710 --> 1:53:53.570 There's an emotional dopamine rush that he probably gives people, 1:53:53.650 --> 1:53:57.349 but that's... Like attainable by a lot of other people now, 1:53:57.370 --> 1:53:58.090 I'm sure. 1:53:58.550 --> 1:53:59.150 You would think. 1:53:59.390 --> 1:53:59.850 I don't know. 1:53:59.870 --> 1:54:00.370 Yeah. 1:54:00.810 --> 1:54:02.590 I don't know what it is. 1:54:02.990 --> 1:54:04.050 He is a unique cat. 1:54:04.550 --> 1:54:07.830 Right. But I mean, all the good unique stuff is 1:54:08.330 --> 1:54:10.730 in the past. I mean, yeah. 1:54:10.830 --> 1:54:14.519 We're essentially in every far right figure is existing now 1:54:14.560 --> 1:54:17.000 in the same place where they're like, I thought we 1:54:17.040 --> 1:54:20.939 were cool in the past. And now that I'm reaping, 1:54:21.620 --> 1:54:22.360 this sucks. 1:54:22.660 --> 1:54:25.550 Yeah. Yeah. And there's a piece of it almost that 1:54:25.710 --> 1:54:28.890 I can't quite fully articulate, but there's a feeling that 1:54:28.930 --> 1:54:33.390 I have where in the beginning times of Alex's career, 1:54:34.170 --> 1:54:38.520 the sellout shitheads were people like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. Sure, sure. 1:54:38.760 --> 1:54:42.100 And that was the whole ecosystem. The monoculture. Yeah, they 1:54:42.140 --> 1:54:46.880 were like, hey, look, we're all conservatives and stuff, but... 1:54:47.280 --> 1:54:47.960 Bush is cool. 1:54:48.160 --> 1:54:48.360 Yeah. 1:54:48.540 --> 1:54:49.940 You know, Hey, support the war. 1:54:50.080 --> 1:54:50.240 Yeah. 1:54:50.260 --> 1:54:52.760 You know, like they, they went along and made excuses 1:54:52.780 --> 1:54:55.740 because of their proximity to power. Right. And Alex's whole 1:54:55.860 --> 1:54:58.280 brand was that he was not that he did. He 1:54:58.320 --> 1:55:01.880 was the alternative to that. And so all of that uniqueness, 1:55:02.040 --> 1:55:05.380 everything that like was fun about him and everything that 1:55:05.440 --> 1:55:06.860 could draw people to him. 1:55:07.000 --> 1:55:07.160 Yep. 1:55:07.600 --> 1:55:11.210 Was based on him being the alternative to that. And 1:55:11.310 --> 1:55:13.890 now as he's gotten to this stage in his career, 1:55:14.470 --> 1:55:17.940 he's their limbaugh. Yeah. He's the sellout shithead who's trying 1:55:17.980 --> 1:55:21.660 to get you to make compromises with sex trafficking cover ups. 1:55:21.720 --> 1:55:22.540 He's like Green Day. 1:55:22.840 --> 1:55:25.850 Yeah. And all these other people are the Alex's. Yep. 1:55:27.290 --> 1:55:28.130 The young eat the old. 1:55:28.350 --> 1:55:31.210 Yeah. But the old also just eat themselves. 1:55:31.410 --> 1:55:32.330 Yeah, they suck. 1:55:33.070 --> 1:55:34.050 Now we're talking about eating. 1:55:34.190 --> 1:55:34.410 Yes. 1:55:35.250 --> 1:55:38.350 Eating ain't cheating. Clinton said that, I think. 1:55:38.830 --> 1:55:40.800 I really feel like he did not say that. 1:55:41.020 --> 1:55:43.180 It's a catchphrase from the Clinton Times. 1:55:43.260 --> 1:55:45.700 I bet he didn't say it. 1:55:46.040 --> 1:55:48.060 I would be hard-pressed to find a clip of that, 1:55:48.120 --> 1:55:49.310 but I wouldn't be against it. 1:55:50.320 --> 1:55:53.190 I really hope it's not like an Andrew Dice Clay 1:55:53.230 --> 1:55:56.450 joke or something. 1:55:56.750 --> 1:55:58.570 It does rhyme. That's a problem. 1:55:59.110 --> 1:56:01.190 So, Eaton, that's what you do with beef. 1:56:01.370 --> 1:56:01.830 That's true. 1:56:02.110 --> 1:56:04.950 Now, this is the last clip of this episode because 1:56:04.980 --> 1:56:08.310 there's nowhere to go after this. It's over. It's done. 1:56:08.510 --> 1:56:10.290 The episode's done. You have to walk away. 1:56:10.350 --> 1:56:11.130 It is the last clip. 1:56:11.250 --> 1:56:11.830 Yeah. Okay. 1:56:11.870 --> 1:56:13.170 And it is also a mic down clip. 1:56:13.190 --> 1:56:13.490 Okay. 1:56:13.910 --> 1:56:17.310 Alex and Roger have been a little bit snippy because 1:56:17.670 --> 1:56:18.790 Roger's being too positive. 1:56:18.990 --> 1:56:19.170 Right. 1:56:19.210 --> 1:56:22.150 And Alex has passive aggressively told him to cut the shit. 1:56:22.210 --> 1:56:22.370 Right. 1:56:22.650 --> 1:56:23.990 And Roger understands that. 1:56:24.090 --> 1:56:24.310 Right. 1:56:24.390 --> 1:56:25.600 He gets what Alex is saying. 1:56:25.650 --> 1:56:26.610 Let's talk press text. 1:56:26.720 --> 1:56:28.480 And so the two of them are having a little 1:56:28.520 --> 1:56:31.540 bit of a broiling under the surface. We're not having 1:56:31.560 --> 1:56:32.900 a great time with each other. Right. 1:56:32.940 --> 1:56:33.940 Subtext is important. 1:56:34.280 --> 1:56:36.540 So Alex is talking about his expertise in beef. 1:56:37.000 --> 1:56:37.320 Uh-oh. 1:56:37.420 --> 1:56:38.620 And the beef industry. 1:56:38.720 --> 1:56:39.140 Oh, no. 1:56:39.580 --> 1:56:41.339 And how much they love steaks. 1:56:41.540 --> 1:56:42.880 So you're saying they're about to have beef? 1:56:43.980 --> 1:56:44.180 No. 1:56:44.460 --> 1:56:46.490 Oh. No. Oh. This is a gross clip. 1:56:46.670 --> 1:56:47.150 Okay. 1:56:47.170 --> 1:56:50.350 But it's very funny. 1:56:50.490 --> 1:56:54.990 Also true that because of this screwworm epidemic in southern 1:56:55.050 --> 1:56:58.690 and central Mexico, Mexico would use to supply quite a 1:56:58.710 --> 1:56:59.940 bit of our high-quality beef. 1:57:00.520 --> 1:57:02.020 Is kind of off limits. 1:57:02.080 --> 1:57:06.760 Now, there is still quality beef being produced in northern Mexico, 1:57:06.800 --> 1:57:08.640 and if there is a way to test that and 1:57:08.680 --> 1:57:11.700 prove its purity, it could be brought back into our markets. 1:57:11.780 --> 1:57:13.200 But, Alex, think. 1:57:13.240 --> 1:57:14.840 If you or I went out and we couldn't get 1:57:14.880 --> 1:57:17.580 a big, juicy steak, I mean, good God, I can't 1:57:17.600 --> 1:57:18.340 think of anything worse. 1:57:18.360 --> 1:57:20.220 No, I mean, there's only one thing better than a 1:57:20.260 --> 1:57:22.620 good piece of ass, and that's probably a ribeye. I'm 1:57:22.660 --> 1:57:25.160 sorry to be bad, folks. It's just, I mean, like, 1:57:25.230 --> 1:57:28.090 I literally sit there like, what's better, pussy or steak? 1:57:28.370 --> 1:57:30.780 It's a hard choice, Roger. Which one do you like 1:57:30.800 --> 1:57:31.260 the best? 1:57:32.260 --> 1:57:34.620 Alex, you know what? This is a hard week in Washington, D.C. 1:57:34.660 --> 1:57:36.340 I got to say this. You don't pay me to 1:57:36.400 --> 1:57:38.120 say it. You didn't urge me to say it. You 1:57:38.140 --> 1:57:40.620 didn't tell me to say it. This methylene blue stuff 1:57:41.100 --> 1:57:45.680 is great. 1:57:45.720 --> 1:57:47.200 That is passive-aggressive. 1:57:47.220 --> 1:57:56.450 That's the best. 1:57:57.270 --> 1:57:58.910 What do you like better, beef or pussy? 1:57:59.110 --> 1:57:59.870 Oh, my God. 1:58:01.130 --> 1:58:04.720 Both of them are being passive-aggressive to each other. Alex 1:58:04.940 --> 1:58:09.350 asking Roger that question is poking him. And Roger being like... 1:58:09.940 --> 1:58:12.040 I'm going to do a way over the top and 1:58:12.300 --> 1:58:15.690 overt sales thing on your show in response to your 1:58:15.790 --> 1:58:19.150 beef or pussy question. That's passive aggressive. It's. 1:58:20.440 --> 1:58:25.410 B for pussy? Methylene blue, my man. That's what I choose. 1:58:26.190 --> 1:58:28.010 That's what I choose, my boob. 1:58:28.030 --> 1:58:32.850 My boob? Jesus Christ. Yeah. You got blue on the mind. 1:58:32.890 --> 1:58:33.070 Yep. 1:58:33.310 --> 1:58:33.910 Methylene blue. 1:58:34.010 --> 1:58:34.210 Yep. 1:58:34.310 --> 1:58:38.530 So look, there's, I was listening to this. Yeah. And 1:58:38.570 --> 1:58:41.010 I heard him say, what do you like better, steak 1:58:41.050 --> 1:58:44.690 or pussy? And then Roger's response is, it's been a 1:58:44.750 --> 1:58:48.330 tough week in Washington. Yep. You're not paying me to 1:58:48.390 --> 1:58:48.970 say this. 1:58:48.990 --> 1:58:49.270 I know. 1:58:49.510 --> 1:58:53.650 And I'm like, What answer could that be? Alex isn't 1:58:53.690 --> 1:58:57.230 paying him to say beef. Yep. What is going on? 1:58:57.350 --> 1:58:58.870 And then Roger just comes. 1:58:59.030 --> 1:58:59.430 I know. 1:58:59.830 --> 1:59:00.610 God damn. 1:59:00.810 --> 1:59:03.030 I was a pro. I was waiting for him. He 1:59:03.050 --> 1:59:05.830 was like, oh, it's been a hard week in D.C. 1:59:07.020 --> 1:59:08.860 You know, you're not paying me to say this. You 1:59:08.900 --> 1:59:09.940 never pay me to say this. 1:59:09.960 --> 1:59:10.410 And I'm like, man. 1:59:11.220 --> 1:59:14.960 This is a guy who's famous for liking pussy more 1:59:15.000 --> 1:59:15.420 than beef. 1:59:15.920 --> 1:59:16.140 True. 1:59:16.300 --> 1:59:18.260 He's going to have a he's going to have some. 1:59:18.340 --> 1:59:18.520 Nope. 1:59:18.800 --> 1:59:20.020 Come back with methylene blue. 1:59:20.430 --> 1:59:20.690 Yeah. 1:59:20.790 --> 1:59:21.350 Disappointing. 1:59:21.550 --> 1:59:23.510 No, I am not disappointed. No, no, no. 1:59:23.630 --> 1:59:23.990 Of course. 1:59:24.310 --> 1:59:26.590 I think very, very funny. I think it's art. 1:59:27.170 --> 1:59:29.650 It's very funny. Yeah, it's very, very funny. 1:59:29.730 --> 1:59:33.410 But I also would have appreciated some horrible Roger Stone 1:59:33.440 --> 1:59:34.860 story that, you know, is true. 1:59:35.360 --> 1:59:36.600 You know? Oh, yeah. 1:59:36.660 --> 1:59:39.180 Something like, oh, I wish I didn't know the details 1:59:39.220 --> 1:59:40.750 of that. tell me a little bit. 1:59:40.710 --> 1:59:44.340 More yeah there's um there i bet if he didn't 1:59:44.900 --> 1:59:48.780 have to pretend he loves jesus yeah now maybe he 1:59:48.820 --> 1:59:52.100 could tell you a fun story maybe yeah but like 1:59:52.400 --> 1:59:57.770 god damn I know that it's not like them yelling 1:59:57.810 --> 2:00:00.810 at each other. Right. But you do get a sense 2:00:00.910 --> 2:00:04.180 that they are on each other's last fucking nerves. Alex 2:00:04.240 --> 2:00:07.320 has a fucking job to do, and he is out 2:00:07.360 --> 2:00:10.160 of balance with what he's supposed to be doing. And 2:00:10.240 --> 2:00:12.420 Roger does not give a fuck. 2:00:12.820 --> 2:00:13.120 All right. 2:00:13.620 --> 2:00:19.610 So we're on a network... The Alex Jones Show, InfoWars. 2:00:19.950 --> 2:00:24.089 It's a news show, does hard news, tells the truth. Also, 2:00:24.470 --> 2:00:27.030 it asks the big questions, like B for Pussy. 2:00:27.270 --> 2:00:27.630 Yeah. 2:00:28.330 --> 2:00:31.730 That's what's important. It's what's on the people's minds, Dan. 2:00:32.590 --> 2:00:37.210 We're doing man-on-the-street interviews, and now that the Cuck Destroyer's gone, 2:00:37.470 --> 2:00:39.530 we have lost the answer. 2:00:39.570 --> 2:00:41.930 We no longer know if it's B for Pussy. 2:00:41.990 --> 2:00:43.730 I like my pussy medium well. 2:00:44.110 --> 2:00:44.610 Ha ha ha. 2:00:45.310 --> 2:00:46.130 I don't know what that means. 2:00:46.310 --> 2:00:47.230 I have no idea. 2:00:48.130 --> 2:00:50.370 Oh yeah. But I think you can understand how like 2:00:50.630 --> 2:00:51.050 it's over. 2:00:51.370 --> 2:00:51.610 Yeah. 2:00:52.290 --> 2:00:55.170 The episode's done. Yep. That is something like that. 2:00:55.330 --> 2:00:56.190 That's the end. 2:00:56.210 --> 2:00:56.770 Yep. Yep. 2:00:57.030 --> 2:00:58.250 We're all going home now. 2:00:58.750 --> 2:01:00.590 I have, I had another clip. I even cut of 2:01:00.790 --> 2:01:03.170 like them being a little bit snarky with each other, 2:01:03.230 --> 2:01:04.130 but it does not matter. 2:01:04.250 --> 2:01:08.350 Methylene blue to that, to the answer. Be for pussy. 2:01:09.170 --> 2:01:09.810 Methylene blue. 2:01:11.590 --> 2:01:11.950 Brilliant. 2:01:12.010 --> 2:01:12.340 Perfect. 2:01:12.560 --> 2:01:15.840 It's so ironic, too. Like, there's a beauty in Roger's 2:01:16.040 --> 2:01:19.750 awareness that, like, the meanest thing he could do is 2:01:19.890 --> 2:01:24.900 an ad right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's... He 2:01:24.960 --> 2:01:26.900 gets it. He's an asshole. 2:01:27.100 --> 2:01:29.410 B for pussy. Subtext. 2:01:29.930 --> 2:01:34.090 You're fucking ruining my whole thing by being a graceless shill. 2:01:35.630 --> 2:01:38.190 Nobody pays me to do this, but I love methylene blue. 2:01:38.270 --> 2:01:42.300 Subtext. I'm a shill? Fuck you, a shill. 2:01:42.400 --> 2:01:46.420 Yeah. I think it indicates that, like, Maybe having Roger 2:01:46.580 --> 2:01:48.580 on is going to be a little bit more dangerous 2:01:48.600 --> 2:01:49.980 territory for Alex than he wants. 2:01:50.000 --> 2:01:50.880 It's going to be harder to do, yeah. 2:01:50.980 --> 2:01:54.060 So he has these people who are like Max Blumenthal, 2:01:54.440 --> 2:01:58.700 who are part of what he imagines his coalition to be. 2:01:58.800 --> 2:01:59.020 Yeah. 2:01:59.460 --> 2:02:02.720 And they don't like Trump, and Alex is going to 2:02:02.740 --> 2:02:05.550 have to wake up to that. I think he has Roger, 2:02:05.860 --> 2:02:07.320 and I don't think that's home either. 2:02:07.600 --> 2:02:07.820 No. 2:02:08.210 --> 2:02:08.690 Not anymore. 2:02:08.930 --> 2:02:09.190 No. 2:02:09.330 --> 2:02:10.990 Not anymore, because Trump's not home anymore. 2:02:11.250 --> 2:02:12.610 Nope. Nope, nope, nope. 2:02:12.630 --> 2:02:13.750 He's a man without a country. 2:02:14.090 --> 2:02:14.210 Mm-hmm. 2:02:14.720 --> 2:02:15.260 Ironically. 2:02:16.120 --> 2:02:16.560 Oh, well. 2:02:17.380 --> 2:02:17.680 Fuck them. 2:02:17.860 --> 2:02:23.110 Patriot. Yep. Anyway, maybe Texas can become a country again. 2:02:24.510 --> 2:02:28.170 So we'll be back with another episode about Alex's continuing 2:02:29.210 --> 2:02:32.800 deconstruction of what it means to be alive. Yes. 2:02:34.520 --> 2:02:35.240 For all of us. 2:02:35.640 --> 2:02:37.120 But until then, we have a website. 2:02:37.240 --> 2:02:38.860 Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com. 2:02:39.080 --> 2:02:39.300 Yep. 2:02:39.440 --> 2:02:41.600 We'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo. 2:02:41.660 --> 2:02:43.700 I'm DZX Clark. And I'm the Mysterious Professor. 2:02:44.160 --> 2:02:47.990 Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo. And now here comes the 2:02:48.150 --> 2:02:48.890 sex robot. 2:02:49.130 --> 2:02:50.250 Andy in Kansas, you're. 2:02:50.130 --> 2:02:50.370 On the air. 2:02:50.390 --> 2:02:50.990 Thanks for holding. 2:02:53.110 --> 2:02:53.640 Hello, Alex. 2:02:53.720 --> 2:02:54.560 I'm a first-time caller. 2:02:54.600 --> 2:02:55.380 I'm a huge fan. 2:02:55.460 --> 2:02:56.180 I love your work. 2:02:56.340 --> 2:02:56.630 I love you.