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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: But you'll tough, girl. You could sit with us Girl

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Speaker 1: Drama Queens, Drama Queen's Drawn mc Queen's Drama John mc

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Speaker 1: Queen's Drama Queens. You guys, we needed this episode so bad. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Season four. I love this episode is so good. Episode

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Speaker 1: thirteen Pictures of You. I wish we had all these pictures?

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Speaker 1: How come we never got copies of these? I know

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Speaker 1: somebody sent us some presents. Damn it? All right, give

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Speaker 1: him the synopsis. Grundown ladies, Okay kids. This episode aired

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Speaker 1: originally February seventh, two thousand seven. A class assignment reveals

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Speaker 1: the deepest secrets and desires of Luke and the students

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Speaker 1: to Haley, while Nathan Russell's with deb suicide attempt. Chase

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Speaker 1: learns that Brooke cheated on her calculus exam. All nudity

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Speaker 1: and drugs run rampant. In the halls of the school. Surprise, Surprise.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is like the last couple

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Speaker 1: but it has to be titilating to get perhaps so

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Speaker 1: much more that happened in this episode. This episode is

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Speaker 1: a testimony to how teenagers talking about their feelings and

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Speaker 1: coping John Capellas, the custodian from the breakfast Club Iconic

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Speaker 1: grew up watching The Breakfast Club and John Hughes movies. Yes,

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Speaker 1: For us, it was John Hughes movies, Like I watched

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Speaker 1: pivoting right back into pleasantness. It's like, I'm gonna I'm

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00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: gonna tell you exactly what I think and then I'm

429
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: gonna get back to business because I am an adult,

430
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm a professional. I'm gonna, you know again, emotional maturity.

431
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: I can tell you what I think and not throw

432
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: a temper tantrum about it. And now we're moving on.

433
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Isn't that funny that Bevin, who

434
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: is so sort of seems like wild and fun and

435
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: kind of did see and cute and whatever and like, oh,

436
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: she's gonna be just fine. But that she's got she

437
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: actually has a solid head on her shoulders, and she's

438
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: like got the over over. I am bird's eye view

439
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: of things that we used to think Rachel had, but

440
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: where she can sort of look over all of it

441
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: and go all right, this will be over soon. I'll

442
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: be somewhere else. I'll just let if you need to

443
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: be crazy, I'll I'm happy to sit in the bimbo

444
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: slot for a little while and let you be. It's

445
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: actually a super alpha move to just sit back and

446
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: let the other people spin because they need to and

447
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: not have to step in all the time. Well, but

448
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: don't you find that is kind of exactly what our

449
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: relationships from our youth are. Like you pick your role

450
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: and then it doesn't matter how many decades go by,

451
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 1: you fall right back into that role. And so if

452
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: this little group of chicks needs Bevin, you know, to

453
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: play the bimbo like you said, okay, I can do that.

454
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: If you need me to play a different part one day,

455
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: I can. But it's not actually threatening her identity, Like

456
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: she knows who she is, so stepping into a role

457
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: for someone else to make it easier for someone else

458
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: to figure out who they are. That's really cool to

459
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: be able to just go okay, if that's what you need,

460
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: go ahead, I know who I am, so I can float. Yeah.

461
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: It requires such a supreme amount of confidence, and it's cool.

462
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: With all these people in this episode, we're we're getting

463
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: to peek behind the curtain. Some are, you know, the

464
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: initial peaks, and some are these deeper dives into people

465
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: we think we know really well, and now we're learning

466
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: about a whole another level. And so amazing with her storyline,

467
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: we think we know exactly who feminin and then she's like,

468
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: oh no, there's so much going on in here, but

469
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: you guys all seem really stressed. So I make and

470
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: like are you okay? And you just go oh, Like

471
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: she's she's laughing at everybody else. I didn't even Nevin

472
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: is the one person who has parents on our show. Yeah,

473
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: probably goes home to a mom and a dad and

474
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: like maybe an older brother or something does do By

475
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: the way, he just told the Skills has a family.

476
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: He's a he's fine, he's all right. All the kids

477
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: that have parents are fine, they're doing great, God, and

478
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: they're and they're dating each other. By the way, it's

479
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: like the healthy kids find each other and they're like,

480
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: we don't want to mess with this other train wreck

481
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: over here. Yeah, we just stay together. Um. Speaking of skills,

482
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: like you two magic magic magic. You had fun and

483
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: it was like you ate up the impression scene, ate

484
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: it up. Oh my god, doing scarface with your crutches

485
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: so funny. We had a blast. Did they give you

486
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: a list of people to impersonate or you just like

487
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 1: mad up? I think they asked me, well, the al

488
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: Pacino thing was there, but then they were like, do

489
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: you have other impressions? Like do as many as you

490
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: can think of? So I did, because I don't know.

491
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: I did Katie Holmes, and then I think I did

492
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: a Drew Barrymore that didn't get in, which is so

493
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: crazy because like, I am actually really in love with

494
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore and I love doing impressions of her because anyway,

495
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: but it didn't get in. And then I don't know

496
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: what the other one was. Oh yeah, Mary, Kate Nashley.

497
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: But Chad did such a great job with the impressions too.

498
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: He threw himself fully into those, so he cracked me

499
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: up and it's so funny when Glenda thinks that scalam

500
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: is Elmo just like undercuts because he does such a

501
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: good impression of it and you just see him to

502
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: late and like, obviously it's written, but god, it's so

503
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: so funny. No, it's good. We got to do stuff

504
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: that we didn't normally get to do. And I think

505
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: that's who were you guys impersonating? I didn't it was

506
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: it was right when Umhor. I hadn't seen Borat, but

507
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: James was obsessed with it, and so James was asked, like,

508
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: who can you impersonate? And he was like, we're doing

509
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: this and I'm just like, yes, yes, And it was

510
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: before we had iPhones, so I couldn't like look it up.

511
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know. And I was like, so just tell

512
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: me what to say and I'll say it exactly the

513
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: way you want me to say it. That was That

514
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: was on James. It's also cute watching Peyton and Nathan

515
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: doing the same impression back and forth, because you it's

516
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: like sibling energy. Yeah, it's so silly and nerdy and

517
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: sweet and and it's like it's almost a full circle.

518
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: When we talk about how Lucas and Glenda and Brooke

519
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: and Chase are able to get really vulnerable with each

520
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: other because they don't know each other that well. Yet

521
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: there's an inverse that happens with Peyton and Nathan where

522
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: it's like, you know each other so well, you've seen

523
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: each other through so many things that you become the

524
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: only person besides Haley that he tells about his mom.

525
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: You've settled into this almost sibling like energy, which can

526
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: happen with like, you know, the first person you ever

527
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: fall in love with when you're young. Years later you're

528
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: like we're bros. Like that's that dork, Like oh my god,

529
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: and they say the same thing about you, and you

530
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: guys personify that energy, you know, even when he's trying

531
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: to be like we were good and you're like, we

532
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: were the worst. Look at my hand, it's broken, Like

533
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: it's all so great trying to figure out that bit too.

534
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: But it comes full circle because this idea that that

535
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: Nathan is a martyr. He starts off this little experiment

536
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: by being like, hey, so I carved your initials into

537
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: these weight plates and like we were good, right, And

538
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: it's like he's playing a part. He's like he's like,

539
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: we gotta do this thing together, and I do care

540
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: about you, Peyton, Like I know you've been through a

541
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: lot lately, so I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say

542
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: this flowery thing. And we've watched Nathan do that all season,

543
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: like I can't commit to a school because my wife's

544
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: not here, and I'm gonna try really hard to be

545
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: the good guy with Rachel and my parents are nightmares.

546
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: But he's been trying to say all these flowery things

547
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: because it makes the people he loves feel good, right,

548
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: And he tries to do it with Peyton in this

549
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: episode and she laughs in his face and it's like

550
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: cut the ship, like ah no, and and and I

551
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: think that's what the whole just is. It's like, I know,

552
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: you're trying to be captain of the team for every

553
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: situation in your life. You want to be team captain

554
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: for your wife, for your parents, for your sibling, for

555
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: your friends, such a good way to put it, for everybody.

556
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to be my team captain, man, I

557
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: know you're a cup I have the broken knuckle to

558
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: prove it, you know. And I think we also in

559
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: our lives feel a lot of pressure to be grand

560
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: or super present or just like be a lot for everyone. Um,

561
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: and so I appreciate the patents in my life that

562
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: are like, hey, I know you're a nightmare, like stop

563
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: you don't put it down, put it down. And so

564
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: I liked the patent. Got tasked with that message of

565
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: like hmm, yeah, like you exist, you matter, you need

566
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: to take up space. Yeah, you should have picked the

567
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: college you wanted to go to. Nathan like like, have

568
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: a moment, let it be yours. You just her to

569
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. And that's a nice message. And

570
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: it's so cool to see again when we think about

571
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: all of this chemistry we normally don't get to see.

572
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: We see so much chemistry between Haley and Nathan, the

573
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: love story and the romance and the thing we've all,

574
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, loved the whole time. We're seeing. We've seen

575
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: all the chemistry with Peyton and Lucas that they've pretended

576
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: to deny for so long, and now we're getting the payoff,

577
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: seeing a typical chemistry Halian skills Peyton and Nathan, like

578
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: growing out, being confidence for each other, being sweet but

579
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: having no again, no sexual tension under it. It's so

580
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: interesting to watch it. Sure is what do you think Peyton.

581
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: That was the one because Peyton was really servicing Nathan's

582
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: storyline at a lot, like really, you know, pushing him forward.

583
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: But I don't feel like we talked about Peyton enough

584
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: enough really in this episode or a lot. You know.

585
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: I guess we've we've been focused so much on her

586
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: as the person that has to cry in every episode.

587
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: I loved her ostrich mentality in this It's like, oh,

588
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: you want me to talk about my feelings, Like, here's

589
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: what's not going to happen. It's like, I don't do

590
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: what I've been doing. But also, um, I think Peyton

591
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: knew that if she got into her own it would

592
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: end up being like not a pissing match between her

593
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: and Nathan, but there's a level of competition she knows

594
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: exists between the two of them. That's why their relationship

595
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: was volatile. Um like, oh, your family sucks, well, my

596
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: family sucks more. And uh, I like that she acknowledged

597
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: what he was dealing with with his mom, and then,

598
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: rather than let that conversation spiral as it very well

599
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: could have, she just changed the subject to whistling, Like

600
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: how I alleviate this? You know, we all have to

601
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: get through the day, sometimes it's not worth going down

602
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: that dark path, like sometimes we just have to keep

603
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: it light. Um. Yeah. I like that Payton finally got

604
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: to do that because historically she's the one that's like,

605
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: oh there's something to cry about, let's go dig in.

606
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: I also like that because they've really been she's really

607
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: been holding space for him to share. She's given him

608
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: that beautiful advice don't be haunted, like Dan, don't be haunted.

609
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: Messed me up. That hit me so hard and I

610
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: and I feel like, in the face of what he

611
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: shares about his mom, I like seeing her be a

612
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: teenage girl that is like, I am not equipped for this,

613
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: Like I've given you my my deepest advice and and

614
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: now you have so much on your plate. I think

615
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: the best thing I can do for you is make

616
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: you laugh. Like Peyton is not the one that's generous

617
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: when he says I wish that I was relieved to

618
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: hear that my mom might die. Payton just lost both moms,

619
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: Like the girl with two dead moms is not the

620
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: one you tell like wish my mom was dead. And

621
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: so rather than give him like a speech about it,

622
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: the gift of the Painton gives is like, you know what,

623
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna just put this away. That's right,

624
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: she's she's flipping the pancake. She's just gonna turn it

625
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: right over. Yeah. Again, emotional maturity work, racious of her,

626
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: very gracious. Can I mean, how many times in your

627
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: life if you had to do that when someone says

628
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: something to you that's just so insensitive and so you

629
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: just looked them right in the face and you're like,

630
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about something else, because I just

631
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't know it in me, especially in our industry

632
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: where we know it's like eighteen hours a day on set,

633
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: you and me, huh, okay, well I could pick a fight,

634
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: or I could make a joke, and I'm going to

635
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: make a joke right now. You know what if you

636
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: feel it though, because I've been on the other end

637
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: of that too, where I've said stupid things and then

638
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: you see that the look wash over someone's face and

639
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: then you see them switch the conversation and be really

640
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: generous with you and still kind and then just keep

641
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: moving on. But it sticks in your crush. You're like,

642
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, I feel like such an idiot, and

643
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: then you carry you think about it that night and

644
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: the next day and overthinking it's almost better to just

645
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: be be nice and move on because it'll just keep

646
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: haunting that person later. It's cruel. Um. Had you gotten

647
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: to work with Antoine much before? No, And I was

648
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: so happy we finally got time together. We've got great

649
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: chemistry together on camera, and we always get along really well.

650
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: He's just easy to act with, easy to talk with.

651
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: Aund he is and when you're acting with him, he

652
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: really listens, He sense to what you're saying and he responds,

653
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: and usually his response is some version of the line,

654
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: but sometimes it's not, and that's what it really does.

655
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the idea that your scenes together

656
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: this episode informed past and future because we can totally

657
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: visualize elementary school skills and Haley like in the same

658
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: class with Lucas like pound around Bodorco's. But we're also

659
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: getting the foreshadowing of him being a huge influence in

660
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 1: Jamie's life. Yeah, both things are accomplished in these scenes

661
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: that you guys have. That's right, and it's so nice

662
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: to get some of the depth for skills too. I

663
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: love when you get exposition about a character that doesn't

664
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: feel like exposition. Yeah, none of this episode did, which

665
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: is kind of a miracle, and there was so much

666
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: backstory and none of it felt like and then my

667
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: parents said to me, you know, and and it was

668
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: so cool to learn about his fears and his family

669
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: and his dreams and and his his real worry that

670
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: if he didn't get a scholarship. That was kind of it.

671
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: That was wrap. That scene made me immediately burst into tears.

672
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: Me too. When you read that letter, I was like, oh,

673
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: there he goes. It was beautiful and the misdirect was

674
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: so good and like him, I'm like literally tearing up

675
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: again theater about oh my god, him telling you how

676
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: messed up it is. Yeah, and be like that's dark,

677
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: Like it was so sweet, but knowing how much was

678
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: writing on that for him, Yeah, the way of that,

679
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: how that would have felt to to really accept, like, Okay,

680
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: it's just not in the cards for me the dream

681
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: that I wanted. And Lucas has had a dream too,

682
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: by the way, the basketball, and you know the idea

683
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: of having to give up one dream and here's the

684
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: second one and if this doesn't work out, it's going

685
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: to be really hard to find a third. Dreams are

686
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: such a big deal when you're in high school. They

687
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: are they are at any point in life, but it

688
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: seems like they get harder to reach for the older

689
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: you get. And um, I liked what this teacher was

690
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: saying about. You know, you get a chance to reinvent

691
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: yourself only so many times in life. You're about to

692
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: go do it right now, think about who you are,

693
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: what your dreams are, what you want to be. I

694
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: also really liked the reality check of some of you

695
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: will feel free when you leave here, and for some

696
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: of you will be very hard. You know, that's that's

697
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: really nice And to your point, he'll like this idea

698
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: that we're all supposed to just kind of play our

699
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: role and how when you're around people you've grown up with,

700
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: it can be really easy to fall back into those roles.

701
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about this a couple of

702
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: episodes ago about friend breakups. Sometimes when your role changes,

703
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: people really don't like it. They don't want you to grow,

704
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: they don't want you to be different. And then you

705
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, is this a moment of growing pains?

706
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: Like am I going to go and create new relationships

707
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: with people that are gonna allow me to be this bigger, better,

708
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: version of myself and it's it's it's all represented in

709
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: this episode without having to specifically say it, and that

710
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: is my favorite kind of story. Yeah, I like the freedom.

711
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: You know, so many times when we talk about reinventing ourselves,

712
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: it's about being a louder, more outgoing version of ourselves,

713
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: and for me, it's been the exact opposite. Like I

714
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: was a performative young person, and the friendships that I've

715
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: cultivated as an adult have been ones where I'm allowed

716
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: to be not the decision maker and like the passive

717
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: one and the quiet the follower. Like I get to

718
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: be the follower and I feel very taken care of

719
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: in those relationships because it's filling a need that you know,

720
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: was a void for so long. Um. And so this

721
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: idea that some of our characters are also doing that,

722
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: It's like certain characters are going out and being bolder,

723
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: but then other characters, like Lucas. Lucas is letting Glenda

724
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: be like the leader in this conversation, be the sharer,

725
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: be the one that like sets the tone about sharing

726
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: and things like that. Like I like that he kind

727
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: of falls into a more passive position. Um. I like

728
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: the patent falls into a more passive position of just

729
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: like I'm going to center you here, let you be center. Um. Yeah,

730
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: it's not always about getting out and getting loud and

731
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: bold and things like that. Sometimes blossoming means like turning inward,

732
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: and so I like the both sides of that are

733
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: represented here. M hm. You know what when you talk

734
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: about that, how we're centering each other's experiences in new ways.

735
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: I also really like that this is one of the

736
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: first times I feel like we've seen Haley grapple with

737
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: the weight of what it means to be a pregnant

738
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: teenager to say, like, I'm excited to meet my son,

739
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: and what's going to happen to me, what's going to

740
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: happen to my dreams? You know you you say I

741
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: wrote it down, you say, I still want to leave

742
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: my mark on this world. And and it's so nice

743
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: to see her really hold the reality, not just the fantasy,

744
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: to say I'm feeling all of these things at the

745
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: same time, and I'm scared. It's a beautiful vulnerability. Yeah.

746
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: I loved it. Also the sort of the normalization of it,

747
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: that it's just this is just real life, Like sometimes

748
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: girls get pregnant in high school, and then they got

749
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: to deal with how to if they want to keep

750
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: their baby, if they you know, how they're going to

751
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: handle this? What what are you gonna do? And not

752
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: having everybody around her get a problem. It's just normal,

753
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: Like everybody's like, okay, hey, let's pregnant. Okay, and she

754
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: moves on and everybody supports her and it's all good.

755
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: And I love that And I loved seeing her have

756
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: that kind of system around her with the friends that

757
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: she's chosen. So now she can really just settle into Okay,

758
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: what does this mean for me? Now? It's not a

759
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: massive torture about oh my god, I'm a pregnant teenage girl.

760
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: It's okay, I'm a pregnant teenage girl. What happens next?

761
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: What's the next chapter gonna what is my life going

762
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: to be? Yeah? What do I And And there's there's

763
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: a fear, but there was an excitement there too that

764
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: it's something that is um it's not when I say normalized,

765
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: it is out of the norm for most of the population.

766
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: But in terms of like her just not feeling alone,

767
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: that's special. To feel alone special. Yeah. Well, and by

768
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: the way, regardless of what age, women become mothers. That's

769
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: the key, right, is you either have a community that

770
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: supports you and you're having an incredible experience because ps,

771
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: we've got enough friends who have done it, you two included.

772
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: It's hard. So you either have a support system and

773
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: you have people who hold you through the herd and

774
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: who enable the happy to multiply, or you feel alone

775
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: and it is terrifying. Yes, and it's it's you're right.

776
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: It's really lovely to see that the people in her life,

777
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: knowing she's made her decision, are like, how can we

778
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: support you? What joy? Did you feel that way when

779
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: you were pregnant in real life? I mean, I feel

780
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: like there's kind of this thing in storytelling in our country.

781
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: I can't speak to any other countries where there's this

782
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: drumbeat of like, if you become pregnant, no matter the age,

783
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: if you become pregnant, you have to start over or

784
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: the trajectory you were on has to pause and if

785
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: you can get back on track, you know, it's there's

786
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: some ketchup work to do. Like I've just so I

787
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: was scared both of my pregnancies the way that Haley

788
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: is scared, where it's like, yeah, I'm super pumped up

789
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: having a baby. Also, there's like things that come with that,

790
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, Um, hold on, can we talk about the stomach?

791
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: Can we talk about the baby? I can't decide if

792
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: I think that it's our honorable or our dishonorable mention,

793
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: Like okay, our friends at home. In this gorgeous sequence

794
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: of scenes with Joy and Antoine, Haley and Skills are

795
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: up on the roof. They're having this moment and she's

796
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: laying down. The blocking is so good. The blocking is

797
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: so good and casual and and you like, you take

798
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: a little stretch, and someone in the edit bay didn't

799
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: zoom in on the screen, which you can do in

800
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: the edit. People like they can go, oh something, there's

801
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: a boom in the corner of the shot. Let's zoom

802
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: in to cut it out. And Joy lifts her arms

803
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: over her head and there's the pregnancy belly pad just

804
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: out front and sad all it's glory and not only

805
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: the like part that goes down around your hips, but

806
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: the center padding with the stitching around it, like you

807
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: see the whole thing down to the stitch lines. It

808
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: was a man. You know it was a man because

809
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: he's like, no, she's wearing a tanktown. That's a tanktown.

810
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: It's like that's for sure, and you're like, that's definitely

811
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: not what that is that awkwards like not white, not

812
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: flesh colored, pale yellow banks or underwear. But except for

813
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: the padding, it was just so clearly. Yeah, I'm really

814
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: surprised nobody caught that, Like nobody just punched in on

815
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: the shot. It's because you're blocking was so good looking.

816
00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: At if you have is that you your physicality is

817
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: not performative, like you know, just how to take up

818
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: space in a scene in a really natural way. And

819
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: so of course you laid down on that big like

820
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: concrete block or whatever the hell you were on, just

821
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of laid out and you were doing like cat stretches,

822
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: which is what pregnant women too. And they're like stretching

823
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: is too good. Like we have another take where we

824
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: can't see the baby pad, but we don't have the

825
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: stretching in that one, so stick to the wrapped it

826
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: out whatever. Okay, honorable mentioned to my baby belly pad.

827
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: Then baby belly. Well, we have some listener questions, guys.

828
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: That went by so fast. That episode went by so fast.

829
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: I want to like, I want to watch this one again.

830
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: All right, me too good? All right. Our listener question

831
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: from Brianna. I noticed conversations going on in the background

832
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: with main cast members. Are you all really talking or

833
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: just moving your mouth? How does it work as being

834
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: a background extra, especially when it's a main cast member.

835
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: It's an interesting question. It depends on the day. I mean,

836
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: sometimes you've been there so long and you have nothing

837
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: to talk about, so you just say watermelon, watermelon, watermelon,

838
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: over and over again, and it looks like you're talking.

839
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: And then sometimes you're having real conversations with people and

840
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: you just mouth it. You have it quietly so they

841
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: can't because you can't make noise. But that I think

842
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: is part of why when it's us, especially, you get

843
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: great background acting because you're just mouthing to each other

844
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: and sometimes that makes you laugh, but you have to

845
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: laugh silently, and then it makes the other person laugh

846
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: because you know that you can't make noise. And if

847
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: if you've got twenty background actors who all think they're whispering,

848
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: they're very loud on the mic, like the microphones can

849
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Speaker 1: hear everything. So especially when it's us in the background,

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00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: we're really serious about not making noise because we do

851
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: not want to do another take because we're being irresponsible

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00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: in the background of somebody else's shot. But I think

853
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Speaker 1: I think that can actually make for the best background

854
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: acting because you're just like, what the are you saying?

855
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: What is that word? Yeah, I'm gonna promise you. I

856
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: am always talking when I am like extra, if I'm

857
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: in the background of your scene, I am talking, And

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00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: I delight in it because that's like the one time

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Speaker 1: where people's focuses elsewhere, they're like focused on the people

860
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Speaker 1: who are actually doing the scene work, and I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do now. Now we're gonna tell secrets. Yes,

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00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: what I love being background and scenes like that, and

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00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: like I might have more of a sense memory about

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Speaker 1: doing that stuff than about doing the actual scenes, just

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Speaker 1: sitting in the background being hey, oh wait, we need

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Speaker 1: to give an honorable mention to Billy, your brother who's

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Speaker 1: in the bathroom. Funny, I forgot about that. That was

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Speaker 1: about the time that like Billy had a crush on her,

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00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: and I think that they threw him that bone just

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00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: so they could be in the same scene together. Like

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00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: there was a point where I definitely wanted Bevan to

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00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: date my brother because I was just like, oh, this

873
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: would be so cool, Christmas would be so fun. Related

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Speaker 1: it didn't work out. It didn't work out. Um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Billy had a crush on her for a while there,

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Speaker 1: and I think that they just thought they were being

877
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: real cute throwing him in there at the urinal with her.

878
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: They gave him a shot. We've got one more question

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00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: from Liz. She says, if you could play a male

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00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: character from the show, who would it be? And why?

881
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: Dan Always it's just dance the guy. You know, he's

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00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: got the media storyline. It's so fun. Um. My first

883
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: instinct was Nathan, Yeah, I want to play Lucas like

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00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: I do because because a lot of reasons, he got

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00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: paid the most and and a lot money. Uh no,

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00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: but also I think that Lucas had some really interesting

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00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: things to do and and yeah, I yeah, and I

888
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: just want to brood. That's it, Like I can only

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00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: relate to Emo characters. Yeah, I was gonna say, would

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Speaker 1: you would you want to play him even more Emo? Yes? Yes,

891
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah. Not only would he be like we're an eyeliner,

892
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: but he'd be We're in like the used T shirts.

893
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: T shirts and you know, like sad sad bands. He'd

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00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: like love Paramore, you know, Oh my gosh, what a

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00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: singer she is, though have voice. We're spinning, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: What do I have this week? Oh my god? Who

897
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: is the most likely to move in with you? I mean,

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00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: you did have people move in with you? I always

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00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: have people move in with me. I just want to

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00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: live on a commune. I want to live with all

901
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: my best friends. Bevin lived with you. Who else lived

902
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: with you? Bevan lived with me, Um Daniello was with

903
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: me like most weekends. Uh Lee was with Bevan and

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00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: I in l A a lot. Yeah, I just I

905
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: love I love having people around. Jenny, my best friend,

906
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: moved in with me Um when we were still doing

907
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: the show. The whole reason that Jensen and Danielle set

908
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: me up with Jeffrey is to get me off their couch.

909
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: Like I had posted up in their l A house

910
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: and Jensen was like, I only get to see my

911
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: girlfriend on the weekends. You can't be here, Go away away.

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00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: And I also I did the same thing to Elizabeth

913
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Speaker 1: on wah Uh. I have that little sister energy where

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00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: I'm like could come over over. I you were very

915
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: similar in that way. I feel like I have the

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00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: big sister energy where everyone moves in with me. But

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Speaker 1: that's my dream come true. Like last weekend, I woke

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00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: up on a Sunday morning. I had gone to a

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Speaker 1: friend's birthday the night before. I had made a plan

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Speaker 1: to get bagels with my friends, and they apparently had

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Speaker 1: gotten up very early and gone and gotten through the

922
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Speaker 1: line because like a there's a line at at our

923
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: favorite bagel store, the lines can be like two hours long,

924
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: and and they had gotten through the line so fast

925
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: for some weird reason that they were like, well, she

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Speaker 1: hasn't texted yet. We'll just go over and everybody is

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Speaker 1: a key to my house. So I woke up. People. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I woke up to three friends sitting in the guest

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Speaker 1: room with coffees and bagels. And ten minutes after I

930
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: woke up, four more people walked in the door, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is the best day of my life.

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00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: This is the best day. Like all my people are here,

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00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: were in pajamas. This is all I want. That's all

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Speaker 1: I want. I love who? Okay, so who from the

935
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: cast moved in with you? Yeah? Bevan and I lived together,

936
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: which character is the most likely to move in with you.

937
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Brooke also moves in with everyone. That's true.

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00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: She moves in with Lucas, she moves in with Rachel,

939
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Speaker 1: shes in with Haley. She lived with Peyton for a

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00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: hot second. That's true. So Hillary in real life, Brooke

941
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Speaker 1: and fake life. I'll just anybody who'll tell day, I'll

942
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: show up like like a sad little paper. Well, guys,

943
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: that was a nice palate cleanser. I really appreciate this

944
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: episode for its bottle quality. It exists in the middle

945
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Speaker 1: of nowhere. We want to see a high school production

946
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Speaker 1: of this episode. Yeah, yeah, man, all right, what do

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Speaker 1: we have next week? Season four, Episode fourteen, Sad Songs

948
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Speaker 1: for dirty lovers sounds dirty? Okay, guys, let me see

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