1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: So, is there anything you've been reading lately that you 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: found interesting that I can say that you're wrong about. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: This goes back to late April twenty twenty two and 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green right, she claimed that the Catholic Church 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: is controlled by satan And then she went back later 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: and clarified that she believes the Catholic Church is controlled 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: by Satanic Catholic bishops. The issue she had was that 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: they were providing aid and assistance to people who didn't 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: have money or housing, like, you know, the things that 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: Jesus preached on dis Sermon of the Mount, you know, 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: like helping people who are who are poor and disenfranchised. 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: And she didn't like that particular group because she felt 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: that some of them were undocumented. But my question though, 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: and what sticks in my craw and John, let me 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: ask you, is she said the Catholic Church is controlled 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: by Satanists, right, Okay, where's the proof? And then let's 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: run with that. So, like you're a young novitate and 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: you want to join the church, and like you're pulled 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: in by the Satanists and then you become a priest 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: and you worked your way up, and I mean if 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: Satani it's controlled the church, John, how would they do 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: it right? 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, there's an assumption, I think, 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: based on your question, that there are Satanists like well, 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: I've never met one, but I did grow up Catholic. 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: I was an altar boy. You know. I spent my 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: entire young life around priests, and I never saw anything 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: with the child molestation stuff. Personally, I never saw any 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: of that. I mean the priests I saw where genuinely 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: most of them were really nice if you were stuck up, 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: but none of them were Satanists. And most of these guys, 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: or if they were really well. But I want to 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: go back to Marjorie Taylor Green and say, well, a, 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: how do you know this? What's your proof? What bothers 36 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: me is people make this claim the church is run 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: by Satanists. If that's true, If what she's saying, she's 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: a member of Congress. So I want to know where's 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: the follow on, betw We call her office and ask 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: her to prove this. You know, are they still Satanists? 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: What's their agenda? I mean, she basically makes this claim 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: and then she just walks away from it. And I 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: don't think she should. I think she should either say 44 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: I was wrong, or here's my proof, or here's my research. 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: I think you should know better. 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: What is she gonna do, How's she going to follow up? 47 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Where's her evidence? It doesn't work that way. You know 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: that now, I know. I'm just throw shit out and 49 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: see what sticks and just keep going. 50 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: That's all it is. 51 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: And you know that. 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: Why does she get a pass? 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: I think that's what's expected of her, and I think 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: that's what gets her elected. And she is probably one 55 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: of the best fundraisers in the Republican Party because the 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: cruelty and the fact that it gets people riled up, 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: and it gets their political enemies riled up. To the 58 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: hardcore right wing Republicans, that is a good thing. And 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: so she's getting tons of money. She's helping out a 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: lot of the other right wing maga Republicans get money 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: because because she knows that this kind of stuff gets 62 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: people like you and me and the rest of us 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: worked up. Has become not about governing anymore. You are 64 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: judged on how often you can get clicks on social media, 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: how often you can get on Fox News or one 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: of these other newsplaces, and how much money you can 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: raise it enter. It's sort of angertainment if you will. 68 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: And does everybody accept this or just some people because 69 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't. In our past world, facts mattered, right, Facts 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: will get you killed in Afghanistan. If you got a 71 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: report that said Taliban is going to attack tomorrow night. 72 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: If you said, like, well I don't believe that or 73 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: that's a conspiracy, and they do, you're like you're dead. 74 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: Yes, let's hope that there's a professional class that still 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: follows facts. But that post truth world, that's something our 76 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: former boss, General Hayden, who was the head of CIA 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: in NSA and the d and I Director of National Intelligence, 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: wrote a book called the Post Truth World, and it 79 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: really goes against sort of the culture that we grew 80 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: up in. Certainly, so what you bring up with Marger 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: Charlie Green and how people are pushing call it what 82 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: you will, just crap into the system, disinformation, misinformation, just 83 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: trying to create chaos. Fascinating article I read, I think 84 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: it was in the New York Times about this guy 85 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: named John Mark Dugan. He was a former deputy sheriff 86 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: in Florida, then got kicked out of there, went to Maine. 87 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: Was some sort of police officer and eventually got kicked 88 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: out of there, but he's been masquerading online as a 89 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: Russian tech worker. He defected to Russia. He lives in 90 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: Moscow since twenty sixteen, and he's been very, very prolific 91 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: in writing misinformation and disinformation on behalf of the Russian state. 92 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: He creates these fake websites that mimic and look just 93 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: like US news websites, and he does it in the 94 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: United States, Britain, and France, you know. And apparently he's 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: just pumping these news articles and social media articles out 96 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: with this kind of stuff mixed in, so it'll look 97 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: like it's the San Francisco Chronicle and it'll have like 98 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: regular stuff, and then in there will be some propaganda 99 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: and disinformation themes. And apparently his stuff as being seen 100 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: by tens of millions of people, and he's got all 101 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: these sort of fake websites and a lot of the 102 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: things that we've seen, for example, around the Ukraine War, 103 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: saying that Zelenski is corrupt and he's smuggling drugs and 104 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 1: the US is involved in bioweapons, and saying the CIA 105 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: is working with Ukrainians to undermine Trump's campaign. All of 106 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: these things are created by this American who fled to 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: Russia in twenty sixteen, and he, even because he has 108 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: such good English, he uses the phone to call into 109 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: the United States, impersonating the FBI officer, and a number 110 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: of other things to try to create havoc inside our system. 111 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: So we've discussed two different kinds of conspiracies here, one 112 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: which I think we all agree was thrown out for effect. Right, 113 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody really believes the Catholic churches run 114 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: by Satanists. And then you're talking about real conspiracies. Where's 115 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: the line between the two is as conspiracy theories for 116 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: fun and entertainment and for shock value, and conspiracies that 117 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: actually try to change people's mind. 118 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: But the shock value raises money in our political system. 119 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: But for bad actors overseas that see the United States's enemy, 120 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: they understand that that same stuff that can hurt our polity, 121 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: that can hurt our politics, that eventually people just see 122 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: so much of this stuff they don't know what to believe. 123 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: They understand the Russians, that is, the Chinese, Iranians and 124 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: others that it weakens us. And the problem is we 125 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: keep biting at it. Let's take a break, we'll be 126 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. But you know it's not 127 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: just here, not just Russian. Like I think you shared 128 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: an article with me about the amazing amount of conspiracies 129 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: around the death of the Iranian president and the Iranian 130 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: foreign minister who died in a helicopter crash a couple 131 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. There's stories suggesting that the Israelis might 132 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: have been involved, that there was space weapons that could 133 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: have been down that the US purposely, you know, because 134 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: of sanctions. You know, the thing fell apart when people 135 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: don't understand how things work, or something big happens that 136 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: they dis can't find an easy explanation for. Conspiracies follow 137 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: right behind. 138 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: There's this famous story you may know it better than 139 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: I do, where Stalin got up to make a speech 140 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: back in the thirties and he had just taken control. 141 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: He was the strong man, now he had no rivals. 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: He gave this speech which was full full of bullshit. 143 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: Right everybody knew it was wrong. And when he was 144 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: done in this big hallway with thousands of people, everybody 145 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: stood up and applauded, and they applauded and they applauded, 146 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: and everybody started looking everybody else and realized, shit, who's 147 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: going to be the first one to sit down? Because 148 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: all the KGB guys are watching. And it went on 149 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: for eleven minutes, and it wasn't just a polite clap. 150 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: This was like incredible applus to the maximum, mistent and cheers, 151 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: and it was like, who's going to die of a 152 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: heart attack first? And finally there was this really old 153 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: guy and I understand he ran a paint factory and 154 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: he finally like just sait it down because he physically 155 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: couldn't go anymore. And as soon as everybody saw one 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: guy sit down, they all immediately stopped and they all 157 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: sat down, and then the KGB guys came over and 158 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: they escorted the guy out, and it was like not 159 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: seen again. Everybody got the message you keep applauding because 160 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: that can happen to you. And with a lot of 161 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: the conspiracy theories, you know, like stolen elections, you got 162 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: to say it even if you don't believe it. 163 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: But we see it now, don't you. I mean Donald Trump? 164 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: You know it says gangster mentality and you know, making 165 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: people complicit around you, and it seems like that he 166 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: takes special pride in the people who were against him, 167 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: the Marco Rubios of the world who read against him, 168 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: S Cruce, Yeah, Ted Cruz said things that you know 169 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: against him that have now come around, and they are 170 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: so fawning that they've they've got under his thumb. And 171 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: I think that's a strong men mentality. It's like I 172 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: have broken that person so much so that they've thrown 173 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: away all their credibility now that they can never get 174 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: it back. And therefore I own them and I will 175 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: do what I want them to do. If you're going 176 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: to be part of the new administration, you have to say, 177 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: I actually put your hand in there. I believe that 178 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: the election was stolen, and I believe the sky is 179 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: red or whatever have you. 180 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: So I spent a lot of time in Zimbabwe with Mugabi, 181 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: who was a leftist right, or at least he said 182 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: he was, and they really did have a make Zimbabwi 183 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: great again right. They would go back to the time 184 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 2: where they won the war against Rhodesian got their independence, 185 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: and he would continually go back to those days. And 186 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: yet the statistics were clear that a independence from Rhodesia 187 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: life expectancy for the average Zimbobbi and was sixty two. 188 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: Life expectancy when Mugabi left office was thirty eight, and 189 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: yet he kept saying, I'm going to bring back those 190 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: great old days. The facts were clear. They had over 191 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: a million percent inflation, and yet nobody in Zim, if 192 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: you wanted a government job or you didn't want to disappear, 193 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: you had to say no, no, things are better now 194 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: that he's making Zimbabwe great again, even though we've almost 195 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: halfed our life expectancy and our currency has disappeared. And 196 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: yet such was a beautiful country too. It is I've 197 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: been to Zimbabwe. It's fantastic, it is it's look, I 198 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: love it. Great people. But what happened to them was 199 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: a strong man said you must follow my You have 200 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: to like basically lie for me. You have to do 201 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: whatever I say, and you have to like believe what 202 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: I say is true. And everybody knew it wasn't. And 203 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: an entire country and an entire civil servants either they 204 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: were fired or killed or the vast majority they just 205 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: went along with it. And I really worry that this 206 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: could happen in any country, and to including our own. 207 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: And so you have to tell a lie, You have 208 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: to sell a little piece of your soul if you're 209 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: in the club, and yeah, I'm looking at you, Ted Cruz. 210 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: He said, your wife is ugly. He said your father 211 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 2: helped kill ca entity. And it turns out he was 212 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: working with David Pecker to come up with these lies, 213 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: working against it was a conspiracy to make Ted Cruz 214 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: look bad, and it just came out. David Pecker has 215 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: admitted under oath that he conspired with Trump and his 216 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: people to come up with this fake story that Ted 217 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: Cruz's father was a Ted Cruz. 218 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: Right, but now Ted Cruise has come around. 219 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: Ted Cruise has like sold his soul. 220 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: Now listen, Frankly, if anybody was going to sell her soul, 221 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: I think would we would have bet on Ted Cruiser. 222 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's true. 223 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: How about Joey for example, Just we just saw this 224 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: with Nicky Haley, right, So that's right. If you go 225 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: back and you look at the things she said when 226 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: she was running against him, they were quite sharp, quite clear, 227 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: like you know this this person is unfit for office. 228 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: They should never be in this position. But then of 229 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: course when it comes to will you vote for him, yes, 230 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: she says yes she will, And so that's part of 231 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: the game. 232 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he pulled the there was the birther Or conspiracy 233 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: that he did with Obama, he pulled on her as well. 234 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: And when her husband was serving, his. 235 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: Sort of denigrated her husband who worked in military. 236 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: That's right, her husband was serving in the military abroad, 237 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: and he was laughing and saying where's her husband, as 238 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: if he wasn't supporting her. And I don't know, I'm 239 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: going to ask where's Milana with his during his trial? 240 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: All right, So I'll keep trying to look for interesting stories. 241 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: We will try to find things that are a little 242 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: more critical of the left wing politically. If we're going 243 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: to talk politics, you know, if we can avoid politics, 244 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: all the better. But in the meantime, please join us 245 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: next time for a full episode of Mission Implausible.