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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, August eighteenth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: episode number ten. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. Got Nate, got Dave Hellman and Nick Eatman

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Speaker 1: with me. We got a lot of things we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about today. We'll talk about the Cowboys night practice

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Speaker 1: from Monday night and guess observations from these guys and

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Speaker 1: some things that they may have seen and heard during

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Speaker 1: that night. We'll also talk about the Cowboys first cut

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Speaker 1: they get down to eighty five players. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: some of the players that are no longer on the team,

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Speaker 1: and a couple of interesting cuts around the league that

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Speaker 1: I want to get some opinions from these guys on

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Speaker 1: whether they think the Cowboys should maybe take a look.

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Speaker 1: We'll maybe get around of I get around. I've got

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna hear from you guys if you want

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Speaker 1: take some calls in the latter half of the show.

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Speaker 1: How's everybody doing it? Awesome, Derek, let's freaking go awesome,

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Speaker 1: get it going, Dave, let's start with you. Actually, Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy had his daily press conference. What do you have

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Speaker 1: to say? I probably wouldn't look for Dak Prescott on

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Speaker 1: Saturday night if I were you, And I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty logical conclusion, but I appreciate Mike kind of

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Speaker 1: just saying it. I'm saying, you know, probably unlikely that

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Speaker 1: a guy who hasn't practiced fully since July twenty eight

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Speaker 1: I would I like my of course, I want everybody

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Speaker 1: concerning for somebody that your first reps in almost a year,

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Speaker 1: Is it concerning for Unick? Yeah? Yeah, but it would

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Speaker 1: But you know, you can say this rest versus rust,

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Speaker 1: I would I would rather have Mali Cooker even if

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Speaker 1: he's you know, even if he's not doing anything, just

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean then than that, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: until until Week one they have a return for a

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe we need some of those guys. Bet they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to lose to the Bucks because somebody

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the eighty five cut Cowboys get

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Speaker 1: gotta have a better mentality than that. You gotta think rich,

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Speaker 1: abundance everywhere. Welcome to the show, Amber Garcia. We miss you.

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Speaker 1: How's everything going? Good? Good, tired, but good and happy? Um, honestly,

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Speaker 1: just calling for one thing for you, guys. It is

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Speaker 1: a very simple question, oh very general. Are we actually

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Speaker 1: but because you know I'm not it's hard for me

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Speaker 1: to keep up with what's going on right now and

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Speaker 1: kind of taking care of a baby at the same time.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to know are we actually getting

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Speaker 1: better or not? And when we when I get back

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Speaker 1: to work, am I walking into excitement and happiness or

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Speaker 1: am I walking into disappointment and one of those seasons again?

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Speaker 1: So that's what I want to know from you, guys,

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Speaker 1: And just as usual, just wants us to predict the future.

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Speaker 1: Some things don't change. Simple, Well, when when is that

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Speaker 1: going to start? Though? Like? What is it? Yeah? When

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Speaker 1: are you when? When? When do you think we'll see you?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it right after the Bucks game? Because

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that one. If that's what you start,

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Speaker 1: i'd say probably not made October. Oh, yeah, okay, made October.

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Speaker 1: Will things be good? Five and one? Oh, I'm completely

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Speaker 1: I'm completely talking out of my butter. You know, I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say, you know, if Davis saying, then wow,

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Speaker 1: we'll see Yeah. I think. I think the schedule, we

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Speaker 1: think and you never know what teams are gonna be,

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Speaker 1: but we think the schedule is gonna be favorable for

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Speaker 1: them to compete, maybe win these games, and it gets

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Speaker 1: a little tougher later on. We think, age it'll be

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Speaker 1: happy and positive just because you're back, regardless of what

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing. Well, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: I heard you guys. I heard you guys um talking.

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Speaker 1: I turned on the show right when you guys were

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Speaker 1: talking about easy in players. I didn't hear exactly who

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Speaker 1: you were talking about specifically, but I'm like, man, who

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Speaker 1: do we gotta easy into this season? I mean, is

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Speaker 1: that gonna be slowing down the Cowboys is gonna be

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Speaker 1: one of those times again where we're like, oh, here's

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Speaker 1: a slow start, but then kind of get going later

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Speaker 1: down the season. But then hey, it's kind of too

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Speaker 1: late actually, Like never mind. I want to have a

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Speaker 1: better idea of what I'm going back to work too,

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Speaker 1: what I'm getting into this year with the Cowboys. Well,

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Speaker 1: we know it won't be eight and eight season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we know that could be eight, eight and one, It

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Speaker 1: could be eight and nine and nine and eight. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's gonna be Maybe I say

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be better than that. But optimism just dripping

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Speaker 1: from that show right now. The one thing, the one

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Speaker 1: thing I think I know that hasn't thrown a pass. However,

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Speaker 1: the one thing I think I know is that the

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Speaker 1: defense won't be worse. So I think if that gives

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Speaker 1: you any hope, I don't think they'll be worse than

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Speaker 1: they were last year. So there's something that's been pretty

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Speaker 1: good these two I don't think they'll be worse. I

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Speaker 1: think there'll be a better defense, and so maybe that's

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Speaker 1: a reason for optimism. We'll see, Yeah, you're you're gonna

551
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Speaker 1: like dan Quinn a g. He's just he's got some

552
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Speaker 1: he's got some stuff to him. He's the smoothest cusser

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Speaker 1: Yeah ever ever heard. He just he just throws in

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Speaker 1: and you're looking around, You're like, it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: Will Ferrell in that old old school movie at the wedding,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, did he just cuss that? He just

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Speaker 1: says something like yeah he does. He doesn't. He's awesome

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Speaker 1: right past not it's not with like you didn't say

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Speaker 1: it with omph. He just kind of says it before

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Speaker 1: you know. It's just rolled off the tongue. I love it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he saw him. But on the show Joseph, I saw

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Speaker 1: him on the when I was watching Hard Knocks, I

563
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Speaker 1: saw him watching the game from upstairs on the booth.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys think that's actually gonna be beneficial or

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Speaker 1: do you think it's it's better for him to be

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Speaker 1: on the ground on the field with the players. I I,

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Speaker 1: you know, I personally think it's better for coordinators to

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00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: be up top um to see. But they it's hard

569
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Speaker 1: to get a coach that wants he wants to get

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Speaker 1: in the mix there, He wants to be down there,

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Speaker 1: wants to talk to the players. We have seen on

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Speaker 1: hard knocks that he'll he'll get him on the phone

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Speaker 1: and he'll communicate with him. But you know, it is

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Speaker 1: one of those things. And I have friends that coach

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Speaker 1: in the high school ranks and then that they say, yeah,

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00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: you see a lot more up there. We know that

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Speaker 1: you see better. But they want to be able to

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Speaker 1: kind of talk to the players, motivate and do all that.

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Speaker 1: But if they're willing to take a step back, like

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Speaker 1: it sounds like he is, he'll probably see more and

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Speaker 1: be a better coach from up top. You do the

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00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: things that make you worth your paycheck from the booth.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I don't even I don't know jack

584
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: about football compared to Dan Quinn, but he like, we

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00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: watched these Frisco practices in the booth as opposed to

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00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: the sideline. It's like watching a completely different sport. You're like, oh, okay,

587
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: here's the rotations, what the safety is doing like and

588
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: now put real coaching football knowledge into that. Get leon

589
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: Lett to smack guys on the ass and motivate them

590
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: like anybody can do that. That's I always I watched

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00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: the sidelines during games and I'm like half these guys

592
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: are just talking to hear themselves talk honestly, Like, give

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Speaker 1: me the guy that's in the booth making the calls

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00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: and the adjustments. That's what's important. And if something's really

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00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: that important to talk about and you get them on

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Speaker 1: the phone. The Hall of Fame game, it was that

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Speaker 1: the last night's Knox or the night before or the

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Speaker 1: first episode, because we've seen him in the yeah no,

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Speaker 1: what she was saying, um that you saw him in

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Speaker 1: in the first episode when he was talking to yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mike Carson. Then that's what it led me to think.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, communication wise, I mean, are you gonna

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Speaker 1: be trying to get guys on the phone head real quick,

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Speaker 1: jump on the phone, or obviously you talk to other

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Speaker 1: coaches to transmit the message. But I thought it was

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Speaker 1: kind of interesting and he led me to wonder, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: which way is actually better because he has to disadvantages

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Speaker 1: and advantages at the same time, but which one kind

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Speaker 1: of outweighs the other? You know. Yeah, we had a

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Speaker 1: big debate on on There was people like in our

611
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: office this morning, some people did not like last night's

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Speaker 1: episode of Hard Knocks, and some people thought it was

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Speaker 1: way better than the first one. It was. It was

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Speaker 1: Donald Dave and I don't agree with that. I thought

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Speaker 1: last night's was not as not the best one. Did

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Speaker 1: you see that one yet? No? I haven't seen it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: i'll see you today. I have it on the TV. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you go, better stuff to do right real quick though,

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Speaker 1: Before you go, I have to let everybody know and

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Speaker 1: and publicly congratulate you on another Emmy win, like this

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Speaker 1: girl's just racking up Emmy hardware. And this time it

622
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Speaker 1: was for It was for a documentary, which you hadn't

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Speaker 1: done one for us before. But you did a phenomenal

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Speaker 1: job on on that story on Connor Williams and uh,

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Speaker 1: and you were recognized by your peers winning an Emmy.

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Speaker 1: I'm very very proud of you. Hammer, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yep, that was a that was a

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Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, for sure. And you know I was

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Speaker 1: gonna see Connor here today. I was probably mentioned it

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Speaker 1: to him, but no one, Connor, he'll be like cool, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we do need to mention that to let him know

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Speaker 1: because he put in a lot of time with you

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Speaker 1: to get that done too, So make sure he knows

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Speaker 1: it was Emmy win. Yea, his family is gonna be happy.

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Speaker 1: I haven't told him yet, but his family is gonna

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Speaker 1: probably throw a party for him or something. Yeah, you

637
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: got a great family, fun family, all right, and we're

638
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna let you go get back to the little man.

639
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: But but it's good to hear from you. And don't

640
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: be a stranger. If you hear something on the air,

641
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: if Dave says something or Nick says something, you need

642
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: to smack him around, then give us a call and

643
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: jump in smack him around. Well, thank you guys for

644
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: your time today and allowing me to kind a chit

645
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: chat with you a little bit. All right, it's been

646
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: a while, We miss you. We'll see you later. Hurry back.

647
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: Bye bye, allright, bye bye, all right, if by the way,

648
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: we can take other calls as well. Eight eight eight

649
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: eight five five two two nine seven is the number

650
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: real quick, though, Let's get to the cuts, cowboys. Get

651
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: down to eighty five. Who got cut? And uh? And

652
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: then let everybody know kind of when does the next cut?

653
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: How does this all work? From the standpoint of the cuts,

654
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: getting down to the final roster Tuesday, they cut to

655
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: eighty five yesterday and next Tuesday, cuts eighty. The next Tuesday,

656
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: fifty three. Here we go. So no longer, and Dave,

657
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: We'll appreciate this more it anybody else. No longer are

658
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: we cutting down the roster in the middle of LSU

659
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: season opener on Labor Day weekend, the worst day of

660
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: the year. It's the best day of the year slash year. Well,

661
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: you just hate that. It's it's it's Christmas for anybody

662
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: that likes college football, and they spend the whole time

663
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: sort of glancing at your phone, working on stories, not

664
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: feeling relaxed. So I'll be honest, I feel for you

665
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: guys every year on that day because inevitably I'll be

666
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: somewhere with my family, will be somewhere and we're doing

667
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: something and I'll be just checking my phone, like and

668
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it. But you guys are having to do

669
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: the work, and so every year I feel for you.

670
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this sucks. Not this year sucks. Let's go.

671
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: I gust thirty first is when they cut the fifty three,

672
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: but they cut five yesterday, or basically, it's just roster reduction.

673
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: You don't have to necessarily cut, you just get them

674
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: off the roster. And they only actually cut like two guys,

675
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: guys Kyon Brown and Vernon Eagles. Um, yeah, Texas, he

676
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: just didn't pretty much did what he did at Texas. Yeah,

677
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't like like a star star. And honestly, Texas

678
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: when he came, when he came into Exis, he was

679
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: like there was a lot of attention on him, like

680
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: he was a recruit that they really wanted, and so

681
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: everybody had really high expectations for him, and he just

682
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: never quite got there. He'd have a game here or

683
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: there where it was pretty good, but most of the

684
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: time he was just kind of like you you'd get

685
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: through a game, you'd be like, did he did he

686
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: do anything? Do you have a catch? It's that kind

687
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: of thing where it just wasn't consistent. I'm not trying

688
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: to take shots, but I feel like that's that's been

689
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: a thing like getting the talent to Austin has not

690
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: been the problem recently. I agree. I agree, And so

691
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: that's always the question of coaching that want to get

692
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: into that. Never he never had a shot here. And

693
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. We have a guy, a camera

694
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: operator videographer Alex Lily does a lot down there, shot

695
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: a lot of training Camp and he's a big UT fan. Okay,

696
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: didn't know that, Oh yeah, big ut fan. He just

697
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: went up with notching my book, so okay, and he

698
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: was shooting, you know, one of the players and he

699
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: made it a catch and for a touchdown and he

700
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: kind of yelled out. He's like, go Eagles, and I'm like, yeah,

701
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: see Camp. So he's yeah, like I'll see first of

702
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: all cheering and and you know, shooting at the same time.

703
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: It is kind of weird, but go Eagles is really

704
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: not something that you know, is said around here. So yeah,

705
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: that's one you definitely want to stay away. He had

706
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: an uphill battle, you know, Eagles with the Cowboys was

707
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough one. Anyway. I get enough random

708
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: tweets from people like Eagleton. Really, I'm like, seriously, even

709
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: never is that what we're doing? But no, yeah, it's

710
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Eagles is just not a It's not a word people

711
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans like to say or here or even read.

712
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: I guess all right, let's jump in. Let's talk a

713
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: little bit more about a couple of guys around the

714
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: league that got cut. There were two names that jumped out. Hang.

715
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, we're burying the lead here. We

716
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: just did five minutes on Brendan Eagles, and we're not

717
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: going to talk about the fourth round cornerback being put

718
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: down for the year as a twelve. But he wasn't

719
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: he Okay, let me ask you, Reggie Robinson, if Reggie

720
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: Robinson were not hurt, is Reggie Robinson making this team? No? Okay?

721
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: So that he just got bad here? That ain't got

722
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: an extra year. So that's a good thing, right, It's

723
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: it's newsworthy. Fourth round, fourth round picks make the team here,

724
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: so it is it's interesting to think he couldn't get

725
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: on the field last year, he wasn't doing enough to

726
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: make the team this year, and you know, it's not

727
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: the end of the world. It is just curious though

728
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: this team is usually better at drafting than that or

729
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: or something. Is the guy not a fit? Were they

730
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: wrong about him? I don't know. Well, here's the Fortunately,

731
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: we don't have to answer that right now because he'll

732
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: be back next year. That's when you go to ir

733
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: At during training camp, you're like, you can't come back,

734
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: but you retain Reggie's right, So, I mean, he'll be

735
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: here next year. But that's an inauspicious start to his career.

736
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: But you got it, I said, who else did that? Yeah?

737
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: Down the guys out for the year right now? You

738
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: put him an R right now, Like he said, out

739
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: for the year. No, let's go back to the ridge.

740
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: But I think you got a factor in the fact

741
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: that there are that the Cowboys came back this year.

742
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: They got him in the fourth round of last year.

743
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: But they came back this year and got a second

744
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: and third round cornerbacks, right, So so those are higher

745
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: picks than him, and they played like it. So that's

746
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: his point if you, I mean, if they come back

747
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: next year and get a first round corner in a

748
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: second round corner, what is that going to show you

749
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: about what they think of Nashan right or Kelvin Joseph.

750
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: I get that. But also I think that this is

751
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: where you start getting that rub between coaching and scouting

752
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: because you're talking about a fourth round pick that spent

753
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: most of his rookie year playing safety. So did he

754
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: get a fair chance to really be able to develop

755
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: and compete at cornerback? Like? Those are the questions that

756
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: you have to ask when you start saying hey, before

757
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: you would just say that they just didn't do a

758
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: good job with from the standpoint of drafting, Okay, I

759
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: mean every like fourth round picks regularly become meaningful contributors

760
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: to this team in my time working here. And Reggie's

761
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: going to be going into year three without and I'm

762
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: really not blaming him, Honestly, I haven't talked to him.

763
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: I've never talked to Reggie Robinson thanks to COVID, But

764
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: if I were him, I'd probably be pretty pissed about

765
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: the way my career has shaken out to this point.

766
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not dogging him. I just it's weird

767
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: and interesting. This is not the trajectory that we see

768
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: for fourth round picks. We're very We're very excited about

769
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: Jabriel Cox. Anthony Hitchins is the name that I bring

770
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: up all the time. Derek Prescott, like your fourth round picks.

771
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: If you're a fourth round pick, you're probably Dorin's armstrong,

772
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: not setting the world on fire, but a quality member

773
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: this roster. Dalton Schultz, if you're drafted in the fourth round,

774
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: I have a decent amount of expectations for you, and

775
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Reggie Robinson is high up on the list of guys

776
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: that just haven't hit that mark yet. Charles Tapper is

777
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: another one that comes to mind. I mean, it does happen.

778
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: I still think it's worth noting. Okay, that's all. And

779
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: Dooley noted, I think that's a good point. All Right,

780
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do is we're gonna take our final

781
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: Oh no, actually before we take our break. I did

782
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: want to real quickly get your opinions because I got

783
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: some messages on this. Just Rosen, quarterback he was with

784
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers, was cut, just was

785
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: waived yesterday because the Cowboys have had issues at backup quarterback.

786
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: Lots of question mark there. Do you think that's one

787
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: that maybe the Cowboys should just take a look at.

788
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: And I say this as someone I really I loved

789
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. I I loved his cockiness. I think he

790
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: had a very pro ready type of game in that draft.

791
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking back at it, like I would have

792
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: drafted Josh Rosen before Josh Allen for sure. Wow, Josh,

793
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean Josh Allen was pure product projection based on

794
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: absurd you know, athleticism, which it looks like it's working out.

795
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna be wrong about guys if you talk about

796
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: the draft long fit matters too, right, Yeah, I think

797
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: fit matters, and maybe he got the right fitt and

798
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: Rosen hasn't. The point Well, the point is I liked

799
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: Rosen a lot, but it's been four teams by now,

800
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: and I know, you know, he's he's been in a

801
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: different system all this time. I get that he's done

802
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: all these different things. He hasn't had a chance to

803
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: get comfortable. But I don't know, if you're that good

804
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: at some point, shouldn't your talent shine through. I mean,

805
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: he got to work with Tom Brady for a year,

806
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: he got to start games for the Dolphins. I know

807
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of talent around him, but

808
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: you should have seen something that made somebody kind of

809
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: sit up and say, okay. And Garrett's been here for

810
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: a year, He's went through the whole offseason. It's also

811
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: Rosen will be back right where he's always been if

812
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: he comes here just learning a new thing on the fly,

813
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: trying to make it work. And I don't, you know,

814
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't I doubt he can. I think Garret Gilbert

815
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: is probably better than him right now. And that's kind

816
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: of what I was pointing out. Um, I guess in

817
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: the column that I wrote that we mentioned is that

818
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: is that, yeah, you're gonna have names that you that

819
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: you like or that that you've heard of or were

820
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: drafted better, but like, you know, there's a reason why

821
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: they're available, and are they gonna come in and and

822
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: be you know, better than what you've got and understand,

823
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, who understand the offense enough that if something

824
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: were to happen to that this guy's gonna be ready.

825
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be you know, he's not gonna be

826
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: as ready as as Garrett Gilbert. So you have to

827
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: factor that part into it as well. Like whoever he's

828
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: gonna have got to have way more talent, got to

829
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: have more upside, and gotta be ready to play. That's

830
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: just very rare to find that right now. Now, he

831
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: had some pretty decent guys ahead of him, Like you

832
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 1: understand why he got cut in San Francisco because all

833
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: but all those guys Garoppolo, the guy they drafted, there's

834
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: a CJ. Bethard. Yeah he's been around, you know, Yeah,

835
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: he's been a he now understands the system obviously a

836
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: lot more too, So you knew that was probably going

837
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: to happen. But at this point, I think it's it's

838
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna take it's gonna take a guy who has started

839
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: in won significant games in the league to come available

840
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: for that for me to think that they would make

841
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: a move, like, you know, people talk about Chicago because

842
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: it's the most obvious one. I mean, there's a good

843
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: chance that a guy with some serious skins on the

844
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: wall will be available at some point, whether you know,

845
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: I guess theoretically it could even be Dalton, like if

846
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: Fields just keeps kicking ass. I mean, I don't pay

847
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Speaker 1: Tony from Atlanta. Tony, what up? Hey, what's going on? Fellow?

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Speaker 1: Tell y'all I'm good. I'm great. Man good to hear y'all. Hey. Um,

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Speaker 1: two quick questions. One, is the with the schedule being

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00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: out in the home and road games and everything announced,

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00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: do we already know it hasn't been announced? What the

903
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: uniforms are gonna be? Blue? White? You know that type thing,

904
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, the bad luck blues and all that. That's

905
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: my first question. Second question, with all the talk about

906
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: d Lamb and how great his camp has been, and

907
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, Cooper missing all this time, and people talking

908
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: about Lamb's ascension, I want to just kind of ask

909
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: you all, get you all thoughts on what exactly is

910
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: a number one receiver? We hear the term thrown around

911
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: a lot, number one, number one, but what exactly really

912
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: is a number one receiver? Is the best receiver on

913
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: the team? Is just an elite receiver? What do you

914
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: guys thoughts on that? Thank you? I mean to me,

915
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: it's it's the guy that you absolutely count on every week,

916
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: and you know he's going to get doubled. You know

917
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: that that he'll be a focal point of the defense.

918
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: But he fights through that and he makes plays. He

919
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: can go and make plays, you know, it doesn't he can,

920
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: he can be an outside guy inside whatever. But number

921
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: one receiver is the guy that that will will shine

922
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: above um the amount of coveragen that he'll get and

923
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: he continues to consistently make plays. That's that's my you know,

924
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: view of a number one I'll actually you kind of

925
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: touched on it there, but I look at it more

926
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Speaker 1: from when you go into every week, who is the

927
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: opponent saying that's who we got to pay the most

928
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: attention to? Who affects the game in that way From

929
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: the standpoint of they're going to get the attention and

930
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: it creates opportunities for other guys. Now, the byproduct the

931
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: reason why that happens is because, as you said, they

932
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: always are making plays, So defenses have to figure out

933
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: how to control them, how to manage them, how to

934
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: maybe stop them. But I think it's really about who

935
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: is the other team saying is their top offensive receiver

936
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: weapon that we gotta take away? If whoever that is,

937
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: that to me is who the number one receiver is yeah.

938
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean you can get all kinds of end of

939
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: the weeds with that, because like, does your number one

940
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: have to be an ex receiver like a guy that's

941
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: out on the boundary. I think in most cases it is,

942
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think it has to be you know,

943
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: guy like Antonio Brown is famous for moving all over

944
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: the place. Going back to your point, I mean it's

945
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hills, Kansas City's number one, Like is he the

946
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: guy you have to take away? Or is it Kelsey?

947
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: Like I think you could make an argument in a

948
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: way when you say that to me. I just think

949
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: that means to Nick's point, like the game plan starts

950
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: with taking him away, that's what any so it could

951
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: be anybody. Really, let's answer the question he's really asking

952
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: lam there. Number one is the number one. It's still

953
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: Amari until CD has a season where he is truly

954
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: It's like, I'll tell you now, I'll tell you this,

955
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: I do expect that to happen this year. And I've

956
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: said that on another episode that we've evaluate a lot.

957
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: A lot of people do, and it's hard to argue

958
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: with them seeing what CD's done and the vast majority

959
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: of it has been on the boundary by the way.

960
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: I mean he's been playing outside because don't you know,

961
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: but we know he can do all of that in

962
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: the slot, So you add all that together. I understand

963
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: the hype. But like I've said it before, I think

964
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, ironically, for being a Dallas cowboy, I think

965
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: he's a little bit slept on. I'm not saying he's

966
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: not top five, but I think he's a lot better

967
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: than a lot of people want to give him credit for. Honestly,

968
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be an either or.

969
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't think just because CD becomes the top person

970
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: that defenses want to take away or feel like they

971
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: need to take away, means Adam Maury falls off and

972
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: isn't a good player anymore. I look at and I

973
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: compare this to Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt. In Saint Louis,

974
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: Isaac Isaac Bruce had been the guy. Tory Holt came

975
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: along and became the guy. It didn't mean that Isaac

976
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: Bruce fell off. He just went into the Hall of Fame.

977
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: He was still a very very good, very very productive receiver.

978
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: But Tory Holt was making the plays that were like

979
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: Holy crap, did he just do that? Right? And I

980
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen here. It's a good problem

981
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: to have, And that's absolutely I'm already annoyed. I'm already annoyed.

982
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna be here mondays after one of them blows

983
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: up and the other one has like a pedestrian game,

984
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: and everybody's for some reason mad about it. Like I'm

985
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: already annoyed. You know the reason. It's not for some

986
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: reason because the money. Now, it's because they drafted a

987
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: money on their fantasy football team. It's because because they're

988
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: cowboy finn and they think Michael Gallup's gonna have a

989
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: big gear, so they put him in the fourth round

990
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: of fifth round or whatever, and he's gonna have two

991
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: catches for twenty four yards and he's gonna be okay

992
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: with it because maybe they won the game. But I'm

993
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 1: just saying that'll happen. That's why when I get asked.

994
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: I got asked this morning on a show about will

995
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: CD lead the team in catches, yards and touchdowns and

996
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: you know, fact or fiction? And I was like, I

997
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: just can't go there. I can't go there on all

998
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: three because that's not the way the Cowboys want to play. Yeah,

999
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: they don't want to play that way. Yeah, they want

1000
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: Zeke to be running for fifteen hundred yards and run

1001
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: out the clock. So um, I just don't. I think

1002
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: Amari will end up maybe getting more yards. I could

1003
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: see CD leading the team and touchdowns. Yep. I think

1004
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the best red zone threat. They've got.

1005
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert. Hey, he's smart enough to they all all

1006
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: the backups are. If it's if it was a mojo

1007
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: moment or fourth and eight or whatever, you know, in practice,

1008
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: throw it up to CD. He'll make the play, you know.

1009
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: As far as the other question, um to the uniforms

1010
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they have not put out their schedule, which

1011
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's ever I feel uniforms Well, no, not really,

1012
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: but I feel guilty because I've run into Mike McCord

1013
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: and Bucky a million times since camp started, and I

1014
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: could have asked them and just slip my mind. But

1015
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: it's funny because you can kind of piece some of

1016
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: this stuff together because other teams put theirs out. So

1017
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: we know Dallas will be wearing blue when they host

1018
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: Denver because Denver announced that they're wearing white. So and

1019
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: then you know, I'm like, you know, the Giants are

1020
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: wearing their homes so both Giants games, the Cowboys will

1021
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: be in white, if that means anything to you. But

1022
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: as far as a as far as a full schedule

1023
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: of what Dallas is going to be wearing, I bet

1024
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: I bet you can. You can bet on the Tampa

1025
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: game them wearing white. Do you think? Yeah, just teams

1026
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: like to do that and it's gonna be hot. They

1027
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: want to put their team and Navy now they usually

1028
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: do that when it's sunny. No, you're you're saying Tampa

1029
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: will be wearing white? Did I not say that Tampa?

1030
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: Did you just say that against Denver? That Denver's gonna

1031
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: Denver's wearing their whites into eighteens? So that means the

1032
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys they did? They do? The Cowboys know they know

1033
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing, Okay, we just don't. We just

1034
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: don't know it. That means once they've told everybody what's

1035
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: going on, then Denver puts it out what they're gonna

1036
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: be wearing. The Cowboys have made that I understand. I'm saying,

1037
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: isn't it curious that the Cowboys chose blue for home game.

1038
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: They typically choose white for home games, right, I'm missing something.

1039
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. It mean, they wore blue like six

1040
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: times a couple of years ago, and I thought it

1041
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: most instance it was it was because they were in

1042
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: road situations where they honestly, they've had a few games

1043
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: where they've they've worn blue, and they're not not always

1044
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving they dave it was eight games a few

1045
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, so it happens they're slowly getting away

1046
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: from that a little bit. The white, Yeah, but the

1047
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: best uniform the course. I think that's part you are opening.

1048
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: You're opening a can of worms. But I actually agree

1049
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: with you. The blue looks the blue actually looks the best.

1050
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: But but yes, he's opening. They of course corrected last

1051
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: year though, like they wore white like fourteen times last

1052
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: year they and they fixed the pants go with the

1053
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: white jerseys. I'm sorry, I just havecrophones pick up whispers too,

1054
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying, like the pants are more

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00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: bluish now. The ice blue, I don't care, looks good.

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00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: It's the white uniform is iconic. Yeah, but the blue

1057
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: looks really good too, and it's not bad luck. I

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00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: hate I mean, LSU is the same like LSU always

1059
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: wears white. They wear white at home, it's their thing,

1060
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: and fans flipped, yeah, great colors like purple and gold.

1061
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: You need to wear your colors. I think our fans

1062
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: hate it when LSU wears purple because it's bad Juju.

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00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, they lost games when they wore purple

1064
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: because they sucked. That ever happened to me when I

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00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: was wearing purple and gold. Okay, Okay, just say what

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00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: you want to say. I'm not saying anything. I'm just

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00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: making a point. At it's a point, okay, point if

1068
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: the team. The team is good, they can blays low

1069
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: games in the eighties because they were blue because they

1070
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: went into Philly and lost. No, they weren't bad. They

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00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: just they on the road. It's tougher to win on

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00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: the road than at home. So they're like, man, we

1073
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: were eight no on white and we were we were

1074
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: only four and four and blue because they're on the road.

1075
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: But the point is in the nineties when they were rolling,

1076
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: how many times they losing blue, Probably not as many.

1077
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like, when you're a great team, it

1078
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: didn't really matter. It's they lost the players, they lost

1079
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: the Eagle. They lost the Redskins the year they won

1080
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, they lost in the Blue probably had

1081
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: something to do with playing at the vet, you know,

1082
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: with Reggie White, I would think probably has something more

1083
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: than guessing. Doesn't look good on me. I'm like, I

1084
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: might be speaking out of turn, but like the sixties

1085
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: throwbacks that everybody loves so much that they can now

1086
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: bring back because of the new helmet rule next year,

1087
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: weren't those teams terrible like that in the sixties, Like

1088
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: they weren't good when they wore those, at least not

1089
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: as good as they became in subsequent years they get

1090
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: they got good like sixties sixty five, sixty six based

1091
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: I think Ice Bowl is sixty seven, but they were

1092
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: already moving. They had already moved on to the like

1093
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: more gray silver helmet, right right, So people love the

1094
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: throwback because it looks cleanly. Look, I love it too.

1095
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: It's cool. Yeah, just the players, the players wearing the

1096
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: uniform matter, not what the uniform looks like and it

1097
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: they just give me a good looking uniform. And whether

1098
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: you all it or lost in it, just give me

1099
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: good All of the Cowboys uniforms look good, like you know,

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00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: I know the white doesn't match and all that, but

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00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: it's this iconic like NFL films, look right, the blue

1102
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: looks good, the double Star looks good. Like they all

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00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: look good. I don't care what they wear, they all

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00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: look good. All Right, we appreciate you guys. Join us.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on Friday, and we actually got a

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Speaker 1: special guest for you guys. On Friday. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: one Darren Woodson that's gonna be I think maybe gonna be.

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00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: We'll see gonna maybe gonna be joining us. We'll see

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00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: how they movie about the guy. Yeah, we gotta come

1110
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Speaker 1: out of the documentary coming out the Saturday. It's going

1111
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: to be really good about Darren in his life store,

1112
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Speaker 1: and so we want to get him on Friday hopefully

1113
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: to be able to talk a little bit about that

1114
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: and just get his opinions on this team, particularly a

1115
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Speaker 1: safety position, because for the first time in a long time,

1116
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: there are actually some people that maybe are worth talking

1117
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 1: about at the safety position. So we'll talk about talked.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll talk to Darren on Friday about that. Till then,

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Speaker 1: for Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, I'm Derek Eagleton. This has

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Speaker 1: been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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