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Speaker 1: We've got Chris Beam in the back. Gentleman, how are
Speaker 1: we doing? Fantastic fantastic goal? Oh yeah, uh yeah? Have
Speaker 1: have you missed? Unt? We all? We got we all?
Speaker 1: We got gotta ride with it. Don't mean green? Um.
Speaker 1: Anybody called their shot this week? Regarding call their shot?
Speaker 1: Regarding Brian call, Are you talking about the offensive coordinator?
Speaker 1: I knew where you're going to? Yeah you know what?
Speaker 1: Oh go ahead? What? No? Can we gonna bring it up?
Speaker 1: Who won? Oh? The pick? Pick them? Because it wasn't you.
Speaker 1: I don't know probably why we did because I was
Speaker 1: the winner. I've got to go back. I think I've
Speaker 1: got to look at the divisional round and then we
Speaker 1: gotta pick the awesome earthan you facts there. I thought
Speaker 1: that's what I thought you were gonna bring up something
Speaker 1: like about new offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer. I thought you
Speaker 1: were gonna bring up something specific. He is new to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys mostly kind of he's not been here for
Speaker 1: a super long time or an he's been in for
Speaker 1: a year in a minor role. It wasn't for only
Speaker 1: a year, and in a minor role as as an analyst.
Speaker 1: Would you call Bitton McAdoo in twenty twenty one a
Speaker 1: major role or a long term paid on the table.
Speaker 1: So that's what this was, if you wanted to really
Speaker 1: put it in, and he's the exact position one year
Speaker 1: in one year in let's talk about it. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. So the Cowboys hire Brian Schottenheimer named the
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, not a surprise at all. I think
Speaker 1: really we had talked about him on this show immediately
Speaker 1: whenever the call more news came out, we as Cowboys Twitter.
Speaker 1: Cowboys Twitter was on this thing immediately. He was a
Speaker 1: candidate as soon as the position had opened up because
Speaker 1: of his connection with Cowboys, because of his connection more
Speaker 1: specifically with Mike McCarthy, and then also just what he's
Speaker 1: done with veteran quarterbacks in the past. So it was
Speaker 1: always a conversation about Brian Schottenheimer. But how do you
Speaker 1: feel about the higher and is it My question is
Speaker 1: is it a significant higher? Because with Mike McCarthy calling
Speaker 1: the plays, this isn't like going and hiring a brand
Speaker 1: new mindset for your offense. It's basically going to be
Speaker 1: whoever's he's the number two in mind now as it stands,
Speaker 1: I'm mostly indifferent to it at the moment because Schattenheimer
Speaker 1: is not going to be the play caller. It is
Speaker 1: going to be McCarthy. So as far as the title
Speaker 1: of offensive coll and Schotenheimer is a figurehead in that
Speaker 1: role as far as titles go. Now, as far as
Speaker 1: helping Mike McCarthy coordinate the offense on a weekly basis,
Speaker 1: we mentioned this last week. You know, because although Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy will be calling the plays, he's not going to
Speaker 1: be solely co coordinating. It's going to be a collaborative effort.
Speaker 1: And for that cord, you gotta coordinate. You gotta coordinate
Speaker 1: for that. I'm I'm leaning towards the positive. I'm not
Speaker 1: wildly optimistic, nor am I wildly pessimistic about it. Because again,
Speaker 1: if this was a situation where you know, Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: got moved out and Schottenheimer was being brought up to
Speaker 1: the OC role to call plays, then I might feel
Speaker 1: a little bit differently about it. I don't know how
Speaker 1: I would feel. I would have to be in that
Speaker 1: situation to know. But that's not the situation. So it's
Speaker 1: still use Mitch, Mike McCarthy calling plays, per owner and
Speaker 1: general manager Jerry Jones specifically, he said it from the
Speaker 1: recent Senior Bowling mobile last week, and then from there
Speaker 1: it's it's what can the mind of Schottenheimer and McCarthy
Speaker 1: collectively put together on an offensive basis, but on a
Speaker 1: weekly basis. But one thing that's interested in. Isaiah's gonna
Speaker 1: love this. I did some digging get some science on
Speaker 1: Shoddy as far as his recent stints at Ocus, he's
Speaker 1: a big play action guy. Ye, he's a big play
Speaker 1: action guy. His time out in Seattle, his offense ranked
Speaker 1: I think eighth overall in play action percentage. It was
Speaker 1: almost twenty one percent between twenty twenty nine percent of
Speaker 1: his offensive plays are play action, So that's going to
Speaker 1: work well for a guy like Dak Prescott, who I
Speaker 1: think we can all admit, thrives in a play action scenario.
Speaker 1: So you know, again McCarthy's calling the plays, but with
Speaker 1: a collaborative effort with Schottenheimer, who, in helping McCarthy coordinate,
Speaker 1: loves to run him some play actions. So based on
Speaker 1: the quarterback you have, I think that works well. How
Speaker 1: does that make you feel? Yeah, I mean it sounds
Speaker 1: like a therapy session. I'm familiar with him because of
Speaker 1: his time in Seattle, right, everybody knows I'm a Seattle guy,
Speaker 1: born and raised in Seattle, so I've watched my fair
Speaker 1: share of Seahawks and in dangerous rusts when he was dangerous,
Speaker 1: you know, Shotty was there. And it's awesome to know
Speaker 1: that he has that in his in his hip pocket,
Speaker 1: that he's capable of that. But I'm not overly excited
Speaker 1: about this. I mean, I'm happy for him that he
Speaker 1: has an opportunity to be off as a creditor again.
Speaker 1: I think that's awesome. Anybody who gets another chance, that's dope.
Speaker 1: But in terms of the impact. I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: foresee at this point a major impact by him, because again,
Speaker 1: he was in the building. So I know people are
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, he was in a very condensed role,
Speaker 1: you know, he was what did he called him a consultant? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So nobody knows. We don't know. We can speculate all
Speaker 1: day long. How much impact he had this year, We
Speaker 1: don't know. But knowing that he was in the building,
Speaker 1: if he was in a position to have any kind
Speaker 1: of impact, we didn't see, we don't know. We don't
Speaker 1: know where the impact would have been at, and so
Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation. But I'm not getting excited
Speaker 1: for the reason that he was already in the building.
Speaker 1: Now the fact that they're elevating him, right they they
Speaker 1: agreed to mutually part ways with Kellen Moore, and the
Speaker 1: fact that he was in a building and they felt
Speaker 1: confident enough to elevate him from within. Obviously that goes
Speaker 1: to the history of what Dallas likes to do as
Speaker 1: an organization. But the fact that he must have done
Speaker 1: something or had some kind of input that was valuable
Speaker 1: enough where they said it was significant enough to bring
Speaker 1: him up to the officer coordinator position. Even understanding that
Speaker 1: McCarthy most likely is going to be the one primarily
Speaker 1: making those calls, they feel like he's going to bring
Speaker 1: some value. Otherwise, I feel, as I hope, as if
Speaker 1: they would have went outside the building and pulled somebody
Speaker 1: else in. So that's my take on it. Not excited,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna respect their wisdom inside the building, and
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that he has a greater impact on that
Speaker 1: than what we saw this past year. And that's what
Speaker 1: I mean when I said I'm not excited, but I'm
Speaker 1: not you know, the sky is not falling either. And
Speaker 1: when you look at Cowboys Nation as a whole, the
Speaker 1: large majority are basically on the on the ladder boat,
Speaker 1: you know, where they're like, oh, this guy's falling. Well again,
Speaker 1: McCarthy's the one calling plays, and McCarthy on the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl calling plays. So being that that's the fact, I'm okay.
Speaker 1: So when it comes to whomever the OC was going
Speaker 1: to be, and we talked about it before the OC
Speaker 1: was named, whomever that might be, they weren't going to
Speaker 1: come in calling plays. They were going to come in
Speaker 1: and try to help McCarthy craft on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1: What the what the offense was going to look like,
Speaker 1: and that's what Shottenheimer is going to do. So because
Speaker 1: that role is not full blown offensive coordinator. As far
Speaker 1: as you know what a traditional OC would do, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't see why I would invest so much emotional
Speaker 1: energy into either being super upset about it or being
Speaker 1: super hyped about it. It's it just is what it is.
Speaker 1: Mike's gonna call the plays, you know, and hopefully Schottenheimer
Speaker 1: can help him mode it on a weekly basis in
Speaker 1: a great way. Do you have to assign somebody the
Speaker 1: title of offensive coordinator or anythlf? He do not, so
Speaker 1: why I think there's an add an element to that,
Speaker 1: And I was about to kind of throw this into
Speaker 1: the fold anyways. I don't think he's bringing just this
Speaker 1: unworldly knowledge to your offense, kind of like what we
Speaker 1: talked about last week. If you wanted to go get
Speaker 1: another West Coast guy for your offensive coordinator, go get
Speaker 1: somebody who's been under the tutelage of Sean McVay or
Speaker 1: somebody who's been underneath Kyle Shanahan. Schottenheimer's done a ton
Speaker 1: of things. My biggest question mark for Brian Schottenheimer is
Speaker 1: how do you get Dak Prescott back to being Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: That's your biggest role, and he's a quarterback guy. He's
Speaker 1: been a quarterback guy for a long time. Look At
Speaker 1: some of the names that he's gone up against. Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: not gone up against. These are guys that he's worked with.
Speaker 1: Rather Trevor Lawrence, Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, Sam Bradford, Chad Pennington,
Speaker 1: Brett Farve, rich Gannon, just to name a couple. That's
Speaker 1: a good list. It's the best list you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: But it's a strong list of quarterback and that's most
Speaker 1: of his starters. Now, there's been some other guys kind
Speaker 1: of sprinkled in there that haven't worked out, but that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen whenever you're in the NFL for twenty five years.
Speaker 1: With Brian Schottenheimer, I think he has an offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: title and an offensive coordinator role because his main job
Speaker 1: is to elevate this quarterback that's already been here. And
Speaker 1: you wanted to go and get somebody who was used
Speaker 1: to working with veteran quarterbacks who are either having some
Speaker 1: struggles or on the middle part of their career or
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. However, he might be a good
Speaker 1: fit for Dak Prescott, and that might be why he's
Speaker 1: the one with the title. Yeah, that's I just don't
Speaker 1: understand if you don't have to give somebody a title,
Speaker 1: he's not truly the offensive coordinator, just making a quarterback coach.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think it's because you still actually
Speaker 1: need a quarterbacks coach. So I think if if the
Speaker 1: if the thought process on promoting Schottenheimer is because you're saying, well,
Speaker 1: I think he'd do better in a role of helping
Speaker 1: Mike coordinate the offense than keeping him in the lane
Speaker 1: of simply quarterbacks coach, which means I'm going to have
Speaker 1: to still hire a new quarterbacks coach. Then you don't
Speaker 1: want to create a redundancy there, right, So I would
Speaker 1: prefer those be two separate roles entirely. I don't want
Speaker 1: my offensive coordinator being my position coach at quarterback. I
Speaker 1: want a guy in quarterbacks coach that is specifically tied
Speaker 1: and glued to Dak Prescott stip on a daid league basis,
Speaker 1: as opposed to having to constantly step away because you
Speaker 1: got to meet with the head coach to coordinate the
Speaker 1: offense on But that's why I'm doing You're saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: if we know that he's not the OC, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna have OC duties and he's primarily being elevated because
Speaker 1: the impact he could potentially have him on deck then
Speaker 1: make him the quarterback coach. Well, I think he's still
Speaker 1: going to be coordinating. Well, he's just not calling, but
Speaker 1: he's just not calling the plays. So the real time,
Speaker 1: real time adaptations in game, you know, down to down,
Speaker 1: quarter to quarter, half to half, that's going to be
Speaker 1: Mike with you know, the assistance of Showery. What are
Speaker 1: you seeing, Brian, what are you seeing? And of course
Speaker 1: building out the game playing on a fortnight and he
Speaker 1: was a passing game coordinator before. So I mean, I
Speaker 1: again I don't it's titles, but I mean I'm not
Speaker 1: entirely on either side of it, because again McCarthy is
Speaker 1: the one calling the plays. And I will say there
Speaker 1: is something interesting, And I would say this also for
Speaker 1: those that are who were reman Kellen Moore and we
Speaker 1: defended Kelly Moore against this reman Kelly Moore. Don't we
Speaker 1: need the Cowboys need a more experienced offensive coordinator Keller
Speaker 1: Moore is not learning fast enough. He needs more experience. Well,
Speaker 1: you got here he is. You got yourself in an
Speaker 1: experienced offensive coordinator. But what's also interesting if you go
Speaker 1: back to his OC days, Brian's OC days in Seattle. Uh,
Speaker 1: granted it was prime Russell Wilson, but those three seasons
Speaker 1: the Seahawks were top ten in offense and points points
Speaker 1: per game. And so now you have that kind of
Speaker 1: a mind coming. They did, they did, and they were.
Speaker 1: They were six the points per game in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: they were ninth in twenty nineteen, they went back to
Speaker 1: eighth in twenty twenty, and then twenty one was his
Speaker 1: final season. He was in sixteen, right, so thanks kind
Speaker 1: of fell off, and I think that was the year
Speaker 1: Russ got hurt. That was Yes, so he's coming to
Speaker 1: we're not coming too, but he's being promoted within the
Speaker 1: Cowboys system. That stop me if you hurt this before,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Likes to run the ball, likes to
Speaker 1: establish the run. And then used to Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: about to say, who are we running it with right now? Man,
Speaker 1: TBD TPD here exactly right, But I don't I will
Speaker 1: say this. I don't think that that matters greatly on
Speaker 1: what the game plan is going to be in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, be it Zeke and or Tony Pollard, or
Speaker 1: it's Tony Pollard and Malie Davis, or it's Ezekiel Eli
Speaker 1: and Malie Davis. I mean either one of that, that
Speaker 1: either of those scenarios, you have enough talent to combo
Speaker 1: package and still lean heavily on the run to set
Speaker 1: up the play action because as I stated at the
Speaker 1: top of the show, Schottenheimer he's one of the old
Speaker 1: seeds that loves to go off of the play action.
Speaker 1: Where you can't go off the play action if you
Speaker 1: don't establish the run. Now, so he does love to
Speaker 1: lean heavily on the run as well. And now he's
Speaker 1: married with the Mike McCarthy who wants to consistently run
Speaker 1: the ball, gets get his running backs thirty touches a game.
Speaker 1: So you're going to see that. And I don't think
Speaker 1: the personnel really matters that. I think the Cowboy is
Speaker 1: going to be committed to that to help set Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott up to win. And keep in mind, you're you're
Speaker 1: coming with a new new offensive line coach as well.
Speaker 1: He has to get that offensive line in order and
Speaker 1: jailing and rolling out he wants. So while that's happening,
Speaker 1: you're going to have to buy Dak Prescott some time
Speaker 1: until things settle up on your front five and the
Speaker 1: other best way to do that it's play action. It
Speaker 1: sounds like it's turning into a running team again. It's
Speaker 1: kind of head that way. Yeah, I mean, think about
Speaker 1: those line coaches. He was here, running guy. It's full speed.
Speaker 1: He was a land telling you it's going to be
Speaker 1: full speed ahead on on the run, and then when
Speaker 1: they pass, it's going to be play action out of
Speaker 1: a West coast like, let's get the ball out quickly,
Speaker 1: and let's let's task guys like Ceedee Lamb who can
Speaker 1: Let's task guys like Michael Gallup getting back to health.
Speaker 1: Let's make sure that we have playmaking personnel like a
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson or Payon Hendershott who can take the ball,
Speaker 1: receive it five to six yards out and then get
Speaker 1: you another seven or eight. So, if you're looking at
Speaker 1: the Kyle Shanahan type offensive, Sean McVay offense is all
Speaker 1: about playmakers on offense, It's about getting the ball out quickly,
Speaker 1: use motions to disguise pre snap, and then once the
Speaker 1: ball is out, it's I need you to get me
Speaker 1: another ten yards after this five yard reception. So the
Speaker 1: only my main question going forward is what does the
Speaker 1: personnel look like? I was about to ask Kyle a question,
Speaker 1: mister draft guy. Yeah, how many draft picks does Dallas
Speaker 1: have this year? Probably ten? Ten? Yeah, they've got seven
Speaker 1: right now they have They have one picks in every
Speaker 1: single round, so they have all of their draft capital.
Speaker 1: They have not traded a single thing away, and they
Speaker 1: should get three top picks. So let's let's just market.
Speaker 1: Let's as that Tony pod gets tagged. That's assumed. That's
Speaker 1: a good assumption, pretty relatively good put up there, this
Speaker 1: franchise tag Tony Potter. Okay, Um, and you find a
Speaker 1: way to cut Zeke down, you know, financially, so by
Speaker 1: cut team. Um, and you still have Millie Davis right,
Speaker 1: he's on a cur Do you draft running back? No? Nope? Okay,
Speaker 1: not even close. Okay, uh, let me let me rephrase that. No, No,
Speaker 1: you're a quick on him. Not in the first round.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. That's the thing. There are people
Speaker 1: right now that are on the Bejean Robinson train. I
Speaker 1: really like Bejean Robinson. He's the running back out of Texas.
Speaker 1: Hell of a player, top notch running back, great great
Speaker 1: play Washington was. Yeah, he should have been getting ready
Speaker 1: to get in the building. Should have been a hum.
Speaker 1: Finally he was really really, really really good. Here's the thing. One,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna fit to twenty six. I
Speaker 1: think somebody's gonna snag him before then, somebody who doesn't
Speaker 1: have as many needs across the board, and they're just
Speaker 1: gonna grab him because he's that big of a weapon too.
Speaker 1: If he does make it there, he might be the
Speaker 1: only guy I'm okay with taking. And the only way
Speaker 1: I'd be okay taking him is if Tony Pollard's not
Speaker 1: in the fold. That's my that's my only way I'm
Speaker 1: taking Bijan Robinson at twenty six is if as if
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is not on the Cowboys at that point,
Speaker 1: like he goes somewhere else in free agency and whatever.
Speaker 1: And that's fair. But even then you have to look
Speaker 1: at your other positions of need to see where they stay.
Speaker 1: Completely agree, were you able to retain Lve for a
Speaker 1: second maybe season, go get a linebacker, a linebacker and
Speaker 1: in the first round. I don't really love that either. Okay,
Speaker 1: he wasn't an off linebacker though he's a pass rusher. Fair,
Speaker 1: but but it's safe to say that. I mean the
Speaker 1: last two linebackers that the Cowboys used the first round
Speaker 1: pickle on. Yeah, it kind of worked out. They worked out,
Speaker 1: they worked out. But I think there's a contingency of
Speaker 1: fans that are standing on the table for Bijean Robinson.
Speaker 1: I'm not standing on the table. I would be into
Speaker 1: the idea depending on the situation outside of that. Day three,
Speaker 1: I'll draft a running back Day three, give me, I'll
Speaker 1: take a flyer on a guy late. There are a good,
Speaker 1: good amount of running backs that are going to be
Speaker 1: decent out of this draft. But you can't just take
Speaker 1: a premium picking so like, no, you can, especially if
Speaker 1: you have all three of those guys back. And we
Speaker 1: were coming off a season where there were a ton
Speaker 1: of question marks at CB two opposite Treyvon Diggs, and
Speaker 1: you see what de Ron Bland can do in the slot.
Speaker 1: You know the nickel and he can pop out every
Speaker 1: once in a while. But you know, presumably Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: is going to be healthy, but it's a contract situation
Speaker 1: for Anthony Brown as well, So you have to again,
Speaker 1: all of this has to be spoken about contextually because
Speaker 1: it's not as easy as saying, oh, well, if you
Speaker 1: don't have Tony Pollard, go get Bejean Robinson. If you
Speaker 1: don't have Ezekiel Elliott anymore, go get Bejean Robinson. You
Speaker 1: have other positions of need that are person as well,
Speaker 1: and you don't as we have this conversation, you don't
Speaker 1: know how free agency is going to shape out. You
Speaker 1: would love to believe that late vander esh is going
Speaker 1: to stay put. I would love to believe it, but
Speaker 1: we've seen stranger things happen. And if there's bigger money
Speaker 1: out there, and we don't know what georget was just
Speaker 1: going to land. But wherever George Jetwards lands, now you
Speaker 1: have the dynamic of a relationship there does George Edwards.
Speaker 1: Wherever he lands, can he help wou lve into whatever
Speaker 1: team is on his lending spot. So all of that
Speaker 1: is to be determined. So as we have the conversation
Speaker 1: in the second week of February, things are going to change.
Speaker 1: Things are going to change wildly between now and in
Speaker 1: the final weekend in April. Yeah, and also not to
Speaker 1: mention you've got so many different potentials in terms of
Speaker 1: this draft at twenty six, because if you're filling out
Speaker 1: a draft board, you're gonna have about twenty to twenty
Speaker 1: four first round grades, but you're picking twenty six. So
Speaker 1: maybe one of those first rounders that you have graded
Speaker 1: as a first round drop, but chances are you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna be picking a second round player at twenty six.
Speaker 1: You could trade back. I mean, you could develop it
Speaker 1: running back as well. That's why I'm finally using the flyer.
Speaker 1: I need to go call my buddy, Jeff Kavanaugh. We
Speaker 1: call him track Captain. Trade down yeah, oh yeah, see
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, trade trade on down, John. I'd
Speaker 1: be cool with that. Cooking, I'd be cool with that.
Speaker 1: I'm always more draft picks. Give me, give me, give me,
Speaker 1: especially if you don't have to give up a whole
Speaker 1: lot of draft capital, you can move down a little bit.
Speaker 1: Give me some morbum darkness. I'm not on the running
Speaker 1: back in the first and even I don't depends on
Speaker 1: the scenario. Because even even to your point as far
Speaker 1: as using a flyer on a guy, Malie Davis we
Speaker 1: all love Millie Davis. He was undrafted. That's the thing, though,
Speaker 1: is if Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard aren't there and
Speaker 1: then be John Robinson's not there, I'm not taking a
Speaker 1: running back. Even in that worst case scenario, I'm not
Speaker 1: taking a round. My point is is that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do well perennially in developing running backs. If they don't,
Speaker 1: if they do nothing well, they know how to develop
Speaker 1: some running backs. They will be drafting a cornerback first round.
Speaker 1: Is that your Your guess is that you say, first,
Speaker 1: my chest, say what your chests on Tuesday? So February,
Speaker 1: let it be No, they're drafting a cornerback. Drafting a
Speaker 1: corner in the first round. Yes, okay, there's some pretty
Speaker 1: damn good corners. All right. We're gonna talk more about
Speaker 1: draft corners when we come down scuting. When we come back.
Speaker 1: Where could this higher elevate the wide receivers? Where do
Speaker 1: we go with the wide receiver room. We've talked a
Speaker 1: lot about running backs, We've talked a lot about the
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Speaker 1: to Talking Cowboys back here on Talking Cowboys Here on
Speaker 1: this Talking Tuesdays, we look into the offseason moves of
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and how it could affect this team
Speaker 1: moving forward. We just talked about Brian Schottenheimer named offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator this past weekend. Not a surprising news burst or
Speaker 1: breaking news this past weekend, however, it is one that
Speaker 1: could impact this Cowboys offense moving forward. I want to
Speaker 1: know where we stand with the wide receivers. I say,
Speaker 1: I know overall, I guess the temperature outside of Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb was far disappointment on most of the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at your third round pick, Jaylen Tolber, disappointment,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup coming back from injury, took an entire year
Speaker 1: and still never really had anything. It just wasn't a
Speaker 1: good year for pass catchers. Fact side of Cede Lamb,
Speaker 1: Ceede Lamb elevated your your offense enough to where you
Speaker 1: can make it happen. But where do you go from
Speaker 1: here with the wide receiver room, I don't see Dallas
Speaker 1: making a ton of moves here. To be honest with you, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they signed one guy back. You have to
Speaker 1: look at t Y Hilden and see if he wants
Speaker 1: to come back. Yes, please, I mean I would like
Speaker 1: for him to come back personally, but I don't. Would
Speaker 1: you like for him to come back for an entire season? Yes, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I think he was in shape. I think he was
Speaker 1: in position to make an im media impact. He did
Speaker 1: make a media impact, talk about you know, a third
Speaker 1: and thirty. I think that he was open in the
Speaker 1: playoff game quite a bit, quite a bit. So I
Speaker 1: think he was prepared and ready to go. So I
Speaker 1: think he's a valuable asset to have all your on
Speaker 1: your offense. I obviously you have CD, Obviously you have
Speaker 1: MG that's gonna come back off of his his surgery.
Speaker 1: So you got three three headed monster right there. If
Speaker 1: you decide to retain t Y, and then you have Tolbert,
Speaker 1: which they're going to give another opportunity to just because
Speaker 1: a draft equity alone, he's gonna get another shot to
Speaker 1: come back and be healthy. And if he wasn't a
Speaker 1: third round pick, would he already been cut? Absolutely? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if he was a fourth round pick, would he may cut?
Speaker 1: So Tilbert's gonna have a chance to make an impact.
Speaker 1: You have Semi Phijoko who's on i R all year.
Speaker 1: He's going to into his third year now this is
Speaker 1: gonna his last shot, his last shot. He should be
Speaker 1: close to getting healthy already, so yeah, I foresee him
Speaker 1: being healthy. I think him and Tilbert are really going
Speaker 1: to be battling it out for a roster spot. That's
Speaker 1: just early early training camp storyline from Isaiah Stand. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's the situation. I think that they're going
Speaker 1: to most likely grab another receiver. Yeah, I think they.
Speaker 1: I think they will draft a receiver or pick one
Speaker 1: up in free agency. Either way, they're going to add
Speaker 1: another guy to this roster. And then Nora Brown was
Speaker 1: his was his contract situation? Oh, he's a free agent? Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it might be gone. Might so, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It depends how much money there is to
Speaker 1: throw around. But let's assume that Noah comes back somehow.
Speaker 1: You have cd mg M T Y hopefully, and Noah
Speaker 1: Brown that's your that's your first four, and then you
Speaker 1: got three more spots that guys are gonna be vying for.
Speaker 1: For me, it's it's it's going to the success of
Speaker 1: the wide receiver corps. Obviously, it's going to be predicated
Speaker 1: upon Dak prescott Um and that wide receiver corp at
Speaker 1: getting on the same page because we talked about it.
Speaker 1: Forty percent or so of his interceptions were accountable or
Speaker 1: tributable to the wide receiver corps not doing not running
Speaker 1: the route that deck thought they would route. The chemistry
Speaker 1: just wasn't there. But also in obviously what Ken, Brian
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer and Mike McCarthy can cock together on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1: But it goes ultimately goes back to what I was
Speaker 1: saying earlier when speaking of what McCarthy and what the
Speaker 1: McCarthy Shottenheimer offense might look like. Personnel personnel, personnel. West
Speaker 1: Coast is personnel based. We need playmakers that can take
Speaker 1: the ball, receive the ball six yards out and turn
Speaker 1: that into a twenty five yard played, ten yard played,
Speaker 1: fourteen yard play. I mean, yak, yak, yak, That's what
Speaker 1: forgot Turpin. Forgot Turpin's gonna be. I'd have to see
Speaker 1: that before I believe it, like i'd have to see
Speaker 1: them committing to Turpin as a wire. I'm saying he's
Speaker 1: taking up a wide receiver roster spot. But true enough,
Speaker 1: math is the math and the contracts there because he's
Speaker 1: here for a couple of years. What I would do
Speaker 1: is they've already and this isn't breaking news either. They're
Speaker 1: going to revisit the OBJ situation, the situation, going to
Speaker 1: talk with him again, and Odell is starting to release
Speaker 1: some workout vidits of him running some routes here and there.
Speaker 1: But for my money, if if it was a conversation
Speaker 1: of OBJ versus Hilton, I've already seen what Hilton can do.
Speaker 1: I've had him in the building. He's already started to
Speaker 1: establish at least a basic chemistry with Dak Prescott. I'm
Speaker 1: giving t why Hilton a two year deal. I'm giving
Speaker 1: him a two year deal because that at least gives
Speaker 1: you an out after one year of things don't go
Speaker 1: as planned. But his trajectory in such a short period
Speaker 1: of time with Dak Prescott, it's up there that I
Speaker 1: needed was pointed due North. So Ceedee Lamb is going
Speaker 1: to do Ceedee Lamb things. He's the definitive wide receiver
Speaker 1: one now in Dallas. Kudos to Ceedee Lamb for making
Speaker 1: that ascension. Michael Gallup now, instead of entering during the
Speaker 1: season to try to regain for him after a major injury,
Speaker 1: he has all offseason to get healthy, get right, get
Speaker 1: in the dackyard with Prescott and get that timing back
Speaker 1: together himself back. So if you look at it from
Speaker 1: the aspect, I've been invited to the deckyard. I haven't
Speaker 1: been about to the deck yard before. Yeah, Dak, I
Speaker 1: like barbecue, m ceedee lamb, let's say healthy Michael Gallup,
Speaker 1: t Y Houghton. I like that a lot. I liked
Speaker 1: that a lot. Huge question marks behind that is Jalen
Speaker 1: Tobert ready to take the next step. That's a big
Speaker 1: question mark. Kamante Turpin, He's going to take up a
Speaker 1: roster spot as a wide receiver, so you gotta factor
Speaker 1: that in as well. Like you said, where is where
Speaker 1: is Dennis Houston in his development? Dennis Houston was a
Speaker 1: training camp star, yeah, as was Sidi for HOCO, and
Speaker 1: I had still here, Yeah, and I had people forget
Speaker 1: about Dennis Houston. But he's still around. He's on the
Speaker 1: Fraknie squad and he's a dead guy and he's signed
Speaker 1: to a futures deal. So he's here. Send me for Hoco.
Speaker 1: Had a double check because I wanted to make sure,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he actually his practice window was opened on
Speaker 1: January nineteenth, so presumably if he wasn't healthy, then he's
Speaker 1: going to be fully healthy. If yeah, he's likely healthy now,
Speaker 1: so send me for Hoco, another training camp star. He's
Speaker 1: going to push and challenge jyaln Tober. He's gonna challenge
Speaker 1: Dennis Houston, so forth and so on. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you still have a question about
Speaker 1: death behind those top three guys, and you have to
Speaker 1: resolve that. And in resolving that, you got to make
Speaker 1: sure that these guys are the right personnel. Because I
Speaker 1: can't stress it enough. Yak Yak Yak is going to
Speaker 1: be needed. You know Ceedee Lamb can do it. You
Speaker 1: know a healthy Michael Gallup can do it. You know
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton can do it. He showed you he
Speaker 1: has the wheels behind those guys. You don't know that
Speaker 1: Noah Brown is gonna gonna be retained. Noah Brown is
Speaker 1: a coaching favorite, he's a Dak Prescott favorite, he's a
Speaker 1: favorite in the building, and he's a strong special teams guy.
Speaker 1: But if you retain him again, it's another wide receiver
Speaker 1: slot being taken up in a situation where how much
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three is Noah going to be utilized
Speaker 1: as a receiver And he's a vet. So his number
Speaker 1: is gonna be. Yeah, I don't know what it So
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting how it all sets out. Because the
Speaker 1: organization loves Noah Brown, but um schematically, by the schematically speaking,
Speaker 1: he's he didn't He started out this season on Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson trajectory. What he did not end on that Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson the same way, same way Dennis Houston started out hot,
Speaker 1: he's a dat guy. And then when Dak wasn't there,
Speaker 1: what happened? Yeah, there you go. You know's I mean
Speaker 1: that it is what it is. You're saying. Noah Brown
Speaker 1: had the connection with Cooper Rush, Yeah, that was what
Speaker 1: the Dennis Houston had a connection with Dak. No. I agree.
Speaker 1: I think they'd love to keep Noah Brown. But again,
Speaker 1: it's a numbers game. It'll probably be just under two.
Speaker 1: Mel It just under two for Noah. He was one,
Speaker 1: he was one point two this year, it'll probably be
Speaker 1: like one point four one point five now fair enough.
Speaker 1: Mathematically speaking, that balances out with the fact that you
Speaker 1: have guys like Dennis Houston semi for hooko UM on
Speaker 1: rookie deals. Kavante Turpin is technically still on a rookie deal,
Speaker 1: and if he draft a guy, right Jayalen Tilbert rookie deal,
Speaker 1: drafted guy, that's another rookie deal. So the money kind
Speaker 1: of balances out there. But you're also going to have
Speaker 1: to pay CD Lamb at some point down the line too. Acceptually.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, now that's what I mean, like asceptually. Oh man,
Speaker 1: there are a couple of contracts that are on the horizon.
Speaker 1: CD Trayvon that negotiations are going to start now and
Speaker 1: they're going to continue either until the deal gets done
Speaker 1: sooner or next year. It's gonna be blow up Central.
Speaker 1: It'll be a big time thing because they've still got
Speaker 1: one year left on their rookie deals. But usually these
Speaker 1: contract negotiations start the year before. It will behoove the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to get either Digs Ord Lamb extended now because
Speaker 1: one of those both of those guys are worth the
Speaker 1: franchise tag next offseason. But it's gonna be a hefty
Speaker 1: tag exactly. So you know, yeah, you think you don't
Speaker 1: want to have to choose between the two because I mean,
Speaker 1: you also have the transition tags as an option as will,
Speaker 1: but they're not going to use the guys. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's franchise tag extension, and you just don't want to
Speaker 1: have to negotiate. Oh, it's it's rich. So a twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four projected franchise tag would be twenty five million
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver, twenty five million for one year
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver. For a corner it would be
Speaker 1: twenty one and a half. Oh, my god, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of dough. Extend now, yeah, can we go ahead
Speaker 1: and get this done at my point? Extend now, my lord,
Speaker 1: Extend lots of work for the front office. All right.
Speaker 1: When we come back on Talking Cowboys, we're gonna wrap
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Speaker 1: helping out Dak Prescott. If you could add one position
Speaker 1: group to help out Dak, one player to one position,
Speaker 1: who would it be. Oh, we can talk about that
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Speaker 1: we welcome me back in to a Tuesday, they should
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back super Bowl Champion. We've got Patrick No
Speaker 1: c Walker, Cris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's
Speaker 1: It's super Bowl week. Guys, who are we cheering for? NFC? Duh?
Speaker 1: Stop it. I am no put some respect on a
Speaker 1: in a stop how about those? I get it, I
Speaker 1: get it from that perspective, but also give me the
Speaker 1: NFC East. I want them respect. Hell dude, I this
Speaker 1: is my stance. Slept those guys. And it's always been
Speaker 1: my stance as a competitor. If I don't take care
Speaker 1: of business and put myself in a position and represent
Speaker 1: my represent the conference. I want the conference to have respect,
Speaker 1: so like like I don't. I don't have to like you,
Speaker 1: and I don't have to like you, but I have
Speaker 1: to respect what you've done. I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 1: I take the motion out of it, so I could
Speaker 1: dislike you to the to the utmost power, but I
Speaker 1: still want the respect. So it's no different than like
Speaker 1: even in college, even in college college, I understand it
Speaker 1: because you're trying to elevate your conference for recruiting purposes.
Speaker 1: Look at the SEC I go to my school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's the thing you're you're trying to elevate your
Speaker 1: school because of Mississippi or because of Alabama and LSU
Speaker 1: and like all their success for football. Guess who's better Mississippi,
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, all these others that university watch everybody else?
Speaker 1: How much could they rock? How does the Eagles winning
Speaker 1: elevate the Cowboys? I say elevate the Cowboys. I said,
Speaker 1: it puts some respect on the conference. Nobody gives the
Speaker 1: hell with that, Oh the way I am, I play
Speaker 1: on both ways. I'm completely has to keep that energy.
Speaker 1: Kyle makes a fantastic point. If that's going to be
Speaker 1: your take, I could justifiably see why it would be
Speaker 1: your take from a collegiate standpoint. Conference wise, I get it.
Speaker 1: I it nauseates me to consider doing it myself, because
Speaker 1: go dogs, I won't. I want to put some put
Speaker 1: some respect name back to back to back. Fair. But
Speaker 1: that being said, I don't ever want success for the
Speaker 1: Obama's and the Floridas and the lsus of the world,
Speaker 1: and you know, Missouri, I just I don't. Now for
Speaker 1: those that say, oh it's the SEC, Okay, pump up
Speaker 1: the conference if you like, I'm saying, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care if Georgia can't get
Speaker 1: into the playoff and get into the national Championship with
Speaker 1: Babama's there, whoever's playing Obama, that's who I want to
Speaker 1: win period. Now translate that to the NFL, it's even
Speaker 1: more nauseating to consider that anyone would cheer for a
Speaker 1: conference or a division when you know what comes from
Speaker 1: your division rival winning the Super Bowl, the Sugar honey
Speaker 1: blank blank show that you didn't have to deal with
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future from the fan base and the
Speaker 1: media analysts in that particular time. I do. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want nothing but the worst for the Philadelphia Eagles, nothing
Speaker 1: but the worst for the Washington Commanders. And I actually
Speaker 1: have of the three teams in the NFC East, and
Speaker 1: there's only one team I have respect for, and that's
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. And even with that being said,
Speaker 1: as a franchise that's in an organization, I have a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for that. Good. That said, I want
Speaker 1: nothing but the worst for them as well. If it's
Speaker 1: not the Cowboys in the title game, but go AFC.
Speaker 1: They had a chance. Okay, fair enough, they did have
Speaker 1: a chance. And I'm not saying because the Cowboys blew
Speaker 1: their chance that, oh well, let's just get Philly. Never
Speaker 1: you won't even hear me say that. I know, I said.
Speaker 1: It started up a different We all have our own pens.
Speaker 1: And I lose to somebody in in my in my conference,
Speaker 1: I want my other guy to go up. No, bro,
Speaker 1: I know, not even We're a different competitive not even. Okay,
Speaker 1: so now you're talking, you're back on collegiate level. I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about just in general. I mean even in
Speaker 1: the NFL, it representative like that's just me, that's just me.
Speaker 1: You did better than me, and that's just facts. You
Speaker 1: did better day, okay, and you represent our side, doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that better So you're less of my enemy because
Speaker 1: because you did better, they personally want them to go
Speaker 1: win that thing so that we can smack them up
Speaker 1: twice next year and say we'd beat the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: champions twice. Oh, I don't care about that. Now that
Speaker 1: I don't care less, I do, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 1: And the psychological conversation expect want the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: to not only defeat the Philadelphia Eagles. I want them
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to embarrass the Philadelphia or
Speaker 1: you want a Georgia TCU, I want a Georgia TCU game.
Speaker 1: That's what I want. I wanted to be unequivocal that
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles's gonna happen. I don't think it's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: because I okay, what honestly speak going to happen? Do
Speaker 1: you think's gonna happen? Give me, give me your score,
Speaker 1: and give me your prediction. Chiefs win thirty four twenty four. Okay,
Speaker 1: thirty four. But I don't have a score. Now give
Speaker 1: me a score. I don't have a s I'm asking
Speaker 1: for a score. I have a prediction in terms of
Speaker 1: who's gonna win. I think Philadelphia is gonna win because
Speaker 1: you want Philip. It's not that it's not Philadelphia is.
Speaker 1: You just said you want to be win because you
Speaker 1: want them to represent the NFC. I'm saying I want
Speaker 1: them to I want them to whip it. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: from that particular. I'm not a fan, so you know
Speaker 1: i'm talking about I'm saying you want them to win
Speaker 1: because of your argument. But I think they're a better team.
Speaker 1: I think they're a better team, and I think they've
Speaker 1: been the best team. I've talked about that all year long. Though,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not that's not new. No, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: said that all year long. They made the moves in
Speaker 1: this off season to put themselves in this position. I'm
Speaker 1: still stuck on you, and then they kept making the
Speaker 1: moves during the NFC and NFC East win. If the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I mean now I'm tight in it.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I know you I said I'm not
Speaker 1: y'all know I'm a fan. If I had to one city, okay,
Speaker 1: and I will have a high regard for everybody else.
Speaker 1: Dallas had their chance, okay, I would love him. Nobody
Speaker 1: and it's not Dallas. I really don't give a dog
Speaker 1: on But I think Philly's a better team. And if
Speaker 1: I if I had to choose an AMC in the NFC,
Speaker 1: I want the NFC to win it. Hey, Frank Clark,
Speaker 1: you hear this. So here's here's my thing. Regardless of
Speaker 1: we're talking about Chris Jones or we're talking about the
Speaker 1: win scenario. You went to Washington, correct, you're a Husky
Speaker 1: for life. You bleed purple and goal. Absolutely, if Washington State,
Speaker 1: your main number one rival, was in the College Football
Speaker 1: Playoff national Championship, there is no there is no way.
Speaker 1: If I had a chance and I blew my chance. Now,
Speaker 1: guess what, I don't have a right to now be
Speaker 1: seting up here sobbing and hating on everybody else. The
Speaker 1: hell you don't, that's not it's not in me. This
Speaker 1: is compartable, this conversations comfortable to win. Georgia lost to
Speaker 1: Obama in the SEC Championship and then Obama went onto
Speaker 1: the title game, Georgia lost to LSU, and the SEC Championship,
Speaker 1: LSU went onto the title game, and both of those occurrences,
Speaker 1: people would look at me and say, well, are you
Speaker 1: chairing for those guys? Because it's SEC. You gotta pull
Speaker 1: for SEC. The hell I do I want whoever is
Speaker 1: going to get those guys that beat me perfect example. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I hate Orgon and I hate I hate watching
Speaker 1: the state them the same way y'all hate feeling on it.
Speaker 1: I hate I don't know when that little freaking duck.
Speaker 1: I want to get my dog Nintendo gun out. Okay,
Speaker 1: So like I just it just gets me. There. We
Speaker 1: were at the at the game, at the hotel, okay,
Speaker 1: walking around down there and at the riverwalk k getting
Speaker 1: ready the next day. It was gonna be the game
Speaker 1: Washington versus Texas for the ball game this year. Okay,
Speaker 1: walking past the bar downstairs, I saw the Organ game.
Speaker 1: Organ game came down to the wire. Okay, you guys
Speaker 1: remember that this year game here, I stopped in Washington
Speaker 1: cheered on Organ. I think we talked about that. I
Speaker 1: stopped in watching cheered on organ y because I don't
Speaker 1: give a crap about Organ but they're playing somebody outside
Speaker 1: our conference. I can't stand that. So and my brother
Speaker 1: went there, so listen, I started cheer for you know why,
Speaker 1: I want them to win. I want them to win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go Oregon. That would be Ducks. That would be like
Speaker 1: me saying blank a tide. I don't have to listen.
Speaker 1: So everybody, I just don't have hate in my in
Speaker 1: my system Dallas when it comes to sports, I have
Speaker 1: so system. When it comes there is one thing. But
Speaker 1: Dallas lost that opportunity. So that means that means that
Speaker 1: my hate for this for my sports rival suddenly lessons
Speaker 1: because for me, my opportunity for me, yes, no, what
Speaker 1: should happen is I should look in the mirror and
Speaker 1: check myself for the next time. But while I'm doing that,
Speaker 1: I am also looking at my opponent, my bitter rival,
Speaker 1: and saying, I hope the planet collapses. I don't have
Speaker 1: that in me. That's what I hope. We're talking sports
Speaker 1: that we're not talking. We're not talking, realize, because that's
Speaker 1: a difference even the sports I don't. I don't have
Speaker 1: that in me. Like if I have my shot I wanted,
Speaker 1: I missed my shot man, that's all I mean no,
Speaker 1: that's all the competitor in me, no way, on no
Speaker 1: sports level, in no sports category. I don't care. They
Speaker 1: were facing another Internet NFC championship. No, no, no, this
Speaker 1: is this is a different scenario. If it's the NFC Championship, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate that. And it's and it's the Eagles, Hay
Speaker 1: the duck that does push ups. Hey, if you're talking
Speaker 1: about if you're talking about a rival and you're talking
Speaker 1: about like some of the Eagles, right, we're talking about
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and the Eagles are facing another Green Bay
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship. I'm gonna cheer for Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Bro Okay, Phillies. Philly beat my Braves fair and square.
Speaker 1: And I gave the Phillies respect for that publicly, I
Speaker 1: gave him respect for that. But did I cheer for
Speaker 1: the Phillies against the Padres. Absolutely not. It was go Padres.
Speaker 1: That's how this works in this household. Yeah. And and
Speaker 1: that was not to take away from the Phillies going
Speaker 1: And this is different because the Eagles and the cow
Speaker 1: Boys didn't go head to head to determine who moves forward.
Speaker 1: Phillies and Braves went hit the head to determine who
Speaker 1: went forward in the wild card and Phillies beat him
Speaker 1: straight up. Nothing away from the Phillies, I'm taking nothing away.
Speaker 1: But in that next series when they went against the Padres,
Speaker 1: I was I damned their head on the Padres Jersey.
Speaker 1: I think you can get these guys out of here. Here.
Speaker 1: You that that's where everybody's did. Dude, you were in
Speaker 1: the minority right now, I usually guaranteed there my whole life.
Speaker 1: Card ladies and gentlemen responding on Twitter, I've been in
Speaker 1: Kyle's gonna drop a Twitter pole. I just see you
Speaker 1: got a chill. That's not okay. But here's where I
Speaker 1: feel You're probably in the one. I'm gonna drop a
Speaker 1: Twitter pole today and this is just gonna go. That's
Speaker 1: okay people even asking the question. You guys know, no
Speaker 1: you have. I'm used to being on my own island.
Speaker 1: I'm probably fine with that. That's just my mentality. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: in same clear, here's competitively. I was competitor, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a fear competitor now. But once I'm out the picture,
Speaker 1: I have no hate. No, I have no hate. I
Speaker 1: could be out of the picture and still hanging in
Speaker 1: the living room. Why you. But if you're the only
Speaker 1: one standing left from our side, nah, I want you
Speaker 1: to win. Nah. No, it's just mad on that one.
Speaker 1: I didn't give my prediction Chiefs win it. Twenty twenty
Speaker 1: seven twenty one. Is that your heart saying that? No,
Speaker 1: my heart says Chiefs forty to three. But yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: say twenty seven twenty Do you think the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: gonna win? I like, honestly, I think I think they
Speaker 1: defensive line wise first and foremost. Yeah, they had guys
Speaker 1: who both teams, but I would give who's better from
Speaker 1: Chris Jones. You're asking me why I feel like that
Speaker 1: team Chris Jones, Who's who's deep runner d line? Your
Speaker 1: question is why do we feel like the who? I'm
Speaker 1: asking the reason that also give me Patrick Mahomes over
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts every day, I agree, give me Patrick Homes
Speaker 1: every other part anybody, every every quarterback, and I do
Speaker 1: mean every So that's one. So that's the that's the
Speaker 1: advantage their quarterback versus quarterback, but also one of the
Speaker 1: reasons the Eagles continue to thrive offensively. It's because Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: or when Jalen Hurts is able to speed the edge
Speaker 1: and burn the edge. Okay, well Chris Jones, Frank Clark, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's a you know what I mean, like, that's
Speaker 1: a dead Which D line is better? Honestly, it's really
Speaker 1: it is not. It is not that tight. Slight ash
Speaker 1: to the Eagles only because the watch Cherry, I watched
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The Eagles interior defensive line is slightly better.
Speaker 1: So slight forty nine Eagles, fair enough, but as far
Speaker 1: as the edges go, fifty one forty nine Chiefs, as
Speaker 1: far as the edges go, are you telling me you
Speaker 1: take a sweat over Clark or sweat over Jones or
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it for a second, so I
Speaker 1: think I think it's entirety. That's about the defense. It's
Speaker 1: all probably want to right, but started almost a wash
Speaker 1: though they literally have two starting D lines. It's all
Speaker 1: one from twenty fifteen and then the other one that's
Speaker 1: twenty here's here the first time. I believe that time.
Speaker 1: If you can keep it wet, though, if you can
Speaker 1: keep Jalen Hurts in the pocket, you increase your chances
Speaker 1: of winning significantly. However, flip it over to the Eagles
Speaker 1: defensive line. If you can keep Patrick Mahomes in the pocket.
Speaker 1: Does that significantly increase you? No, he can make every
Speaker 1: single freaking throw, including the throws. He's not supposed to
Speaker 1: make things from inside the pot. I think this D
Speaker 1: line is gonna gonna give I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a hell of a game. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a good game. I think that I think that Philadelphia
Speaker 1: is just is too deep at that position to cast
Speaker 1: those guys, and they don't have a running game. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to have a running game against him,
Speaker 1: So he's gonna be thrown aball forty seven times. Who
Speaker 1: Patrick Homes d You realize, you realize, you realize they
Speaker 1: like that, right, I get I get that. Makingn't mention
Speaker 1: as it's pay different playing into their hands. Philadelphia has
Speaker 1: the guys to guard their their their second, their arm receivers,
Speaker 1: and they have two guys. That's all they need. Now
Speaker 1: you're gonna need more. Isaiah's already got Patrick his chief's
Speaker 1: friends can make wide receiver three and four and five
Speaker 1: look like wide receiver. Some issues, I don't think. Look
Speaker 1: at my school prediction, I said thirty four twenty four.
Speaker 1: That's not indicative prediction. I wish I can give you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not indicative of me saying that I wish you
Speaker 1: could get me one dumped. But I do believe that
Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is a dude. Listen, and you
Speaker 1: get an argument for this is he's a freaking dude.
Speaker 1: But I just think that I think he's gonna have
Speaker 1: some problems. Bottom line and bottom line this for you.
Speaker 1: We'll talk everything we said Andy Reid, greater than greater
Speaker 1: than there you agree with that too, all right. We
Speaker 1: didn't even get to the Dak Prescott conversation that I teased.
Speaker 1: We'll do that next week Tuesday. We'll have about Tom Fooler. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did not realize that the Super Bowl segment would
Speaker 1: just go off the rails so quickly. But it was
Speaker 1: a fun one. Least the Ducks Oregon get out of here.
Speaker 1: You cheer for him if they're in the title game,
Speaker 1: you know, I would, I would come on if they were.
Speaker 1: I was stopping. Absolutely Ever Marcus Mariota up up against
Speaker 1: Ohio State, were you cheering for were you they were? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you cheer for h a couple of years ago?
Speaker 1: Anytime anybody represented him from the conference? Yeah? Absolutely, the day.
Speaker 1: I want Nick Saban to win another ring. I just
Speaker 1: love Yeah, Hey, I just don't have hate for him.
Speaker 1: Other people, I just won't talk. We're talk talking about people,
Speaker 1: we're talking talking about sports. But when I'm out of uniforms,
Speaker 1: when I'm out of it, my heat is just mean.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, mine is eternal. Sweet. That's title of the show.
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for us for Chris Me, Isaiah
Speaker 1: stand Back, Patrick No C. Walker und Kyle Yeoman's We'll
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