WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Calling Schotts 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.840 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:14.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This he's Talking 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:19.239 Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:31.160 the Star in Frisco. And now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:39.199 Patrick Walker and Kyle Yeomans. It is a terrific Tuesday. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.240 It is should have Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.440 Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco in the 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:50.720 SWBC studios. Welcome in everybody for another offseason episode alongside 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:54.520 Patrick No C. Walker, Isaiah stand Back of Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.840 We've got Chris Beam in the back. Gentleman, how are 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:01.680 we doing? Fantastic fantastic goal? Oh yeah, uh yeah? Have 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.240 have you missed? Unt? We all? We got we all? 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:10.920 We got gotta ride with it. Don't mean green? Um. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:17.240 Anybody called their shot this week? Regarding call their shot? 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:21.640 Regarding Brian call, Are you talking about the offensive coordinator? 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.960 I knew where you're going to? Yeah you know what? 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.360 Oh go ahead? What? No? Can we gonna bring it up? 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:33.680 Who won? Oh? The pick? Pick them? Because it wasn't you. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.920 I don't know probably why we did because I was 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.600 the winner. I've got to go back. I think I've 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:45.000 got to look at the divisional round and then we 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:52.280 gotta pick the awesome earthan you facts there. I thought 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.560 that's what I thought you were gonna bring up something 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.320 like about new offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer. I thought you 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:02.280 were gonna bring up something specific. He is new to 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.240 the Cowboys mostly kind of he's not been here for 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.320 a super long time or an he's been in for 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:13.000 a year in a minor role. It wasn't for only 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.840 a year, and in a minor role as as an analyst. 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.560 Would you call Bitton McAdoo in twenty twenty one a 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:23.560 major role or a long term paid on the table. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.239 So that's what this was, if you wanted to really 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.480 put it in, and he's the exact position one year 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.160 in one year in let's talk about it. Let's talk 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.200 about it. So the Cowboys hire Brian Schottenheimer named the 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:39.320 new offensive coordinator, not a surprise at all. I think 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.520 really we had talked about him on this show immediately 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:47.160 whenever the call more news came out, we as Cowboys Twitter. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.400 Cowboys Twitter was on this thing immediately. He was a 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.680 candidate as soon as the position had opened up because 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.120 of his connection with Cowboys, because of his connection more 0:02:56.160 --> 0:03:00.639 specifically with Mike McCarthy, and then also just what he's 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.720 done with veteran quarterbacks in the past. So it was 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:08.240 always a conversation about Brian Schottenheimer. But how do you 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.239 feel about the higher and is it My question is 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.480 is it a significant higher? Because with Mike McCarthy calling 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:19.920 the plays, this isn't like going and hiring a brand 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:24.080 new mindset for your offense. It's basically going to be 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.920 whoever's he's the number two in mind now as it stands, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:33.880 I'm mostly indifferent to it at the moment because Schattenheimer 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.520 is not going to be the play caller. It is 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.120 going to be McCarthy. So as far as the title 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:43.520 of offensive coll and Schotenheimer is a figurehead in that 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.400 role as far as titles go. Now, as far as 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.440 helping Mike McCarthy coordinate the offense on a weekly basis, 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.280 we mentioned this last week. You know, because although Mike 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.720 McCarthy will be calling the plays, he's not going to 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.720 be solely co coordinating. It's going to be a collaborative effort. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.440 And for that cord, you gotta coordinate. You gotta coordinate 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.160 for that. I'm I'm leaning towards the positive. I'm not 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.600 wildly optimistic, nor am I wildly pessimistic about it. Because again, 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.240 if this was a situation where you know, Kellen Moore 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.920 got moved out and Schottenheimer was being brought up to 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.000 the OC role to call plays, then I might feel 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.040 a little bit differently about it. I don't know how 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:22.600 I would feel. I would have to be in that 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:26.000 situation to know. But that's not the situation. So it's 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.040 still use Mitch, Mike McCarthy calling plays, per owner and 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.160 general manager Jerry Jones specifically, he said it from the 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.880 recent Senior Bowling mobile last week, and then from there 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:41.960 it's it's what can the mind of Schottenheimer and McCarthy 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.000 collectively put together on an offensive basis, but on a 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.839 weekly basis. But one thing that's interested in. Isaiah's gonna 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.640 love this. I did some digging get some science on 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:56.040 Shoddy as far as his recent stints at Ocus, he's 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.240 a big play action guy. Ye, he's a big play 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.120 action guy. His time out in Seattle, his offense ranked 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.359 I think eighth overall in play action percentage. It was 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.040 almost twenty one percent between twenty twenty nine percent of 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.560 his offensive plays are play action, So that's going to 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.000 work well for a guy like Dak Prescott, who I 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.200 think we can all admit, thrives in a play action scenario. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.000 So you know, again McCarthy's calling the plays, but with 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:25.200 a collaborative effort with Schottenheimer, who, in helping McCarthy coordinate, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.039 loves to run him some play actions. So based on 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.280 the quarterback you have, I think that works well. How 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.559 does that make you feel? Yeah, I mean it sounds 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.360 like a therapy session. I'm familiar with him because of 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.440 his time in Seattle, right, everybody knows I'm a Seattle guy, 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:41.880 born and raised in Seattle, so I've watched my fair 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.640 share of Seahawks and in dangerous rusts when he was dangerous, 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.640 you know, Shotty was there. And it's awesome to know 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.640 that he has that in his in his hip pocket, 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:59.640 that he's capable of that. But I'm not overly excited 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.880 about this. I mean, I'm happy for him that he 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.720 has an opportunity to be off as a creditor again. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.279 I think that's awesome. Anybody who gets another chance, that's dope. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:14.440 But in terms of the impact. I can't. I can't 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:20.159 foresee at this point a major impact by him, because again, 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.320 he was in the building. So I know people are 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.320 gonna say, well, he was in a very condensed role, 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:30.599 you know, he was what did he called him a consultant? Yeah, yeah, 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.839 So nobody knows. We don't know. We can speculate all 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.280 day long. How much impact he had this year, We 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.000 don't know. But knowing that he was in the building, 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.200 if he was in a position to have any kind 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:47.760 of impact, we didn't see, we don't know. We don't 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.640 know where the impact would have been at, and so 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.000 there's a lot of speculation. But I'm not getting excited 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.760 for the reason that he was already in the building. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.240 Now the fact that they're elevating him, right they they 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:04.240 agreed to mutually part ways with Kellen Moore, and the 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:05.800 fact that he was in a building and they felt 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.400 confident enough to elevate him from within. Obviously that goes 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.720 to the history of what Dallas likes to do as 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:16.440 an organization. But the fact that he must have done 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:20.400 something or had some kind of input that was valuable 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.080 enough where they said it was significant enough to bring 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:27.280 him up to the officer coordinator position. Even understanding that 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.800 McCarthy most likely is going to be the one primarily 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.440 making those calls, they feel like he's going to bring 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.440 some value. Otherwise, I feel, as I hope, as if 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.720 they would have went outside the building and pulled somebody 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.400 else in. So that's my take on it. Not excited, 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:45.360 but I'm gonna respect their wisdom inside the building, and 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.720 I'm hoping that he has a greater impact on that 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:49.440 than what we saw this past year. And that's what 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.720 I mean when I said I'm not excited, but I'm 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:55.760 not you know, the sky is not falling either. And 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.400 when you look at Cowboys Nation as a whole, the 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.360 large majority are basically on the on the ladder boat, 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.520 you know, where they're like, oh, this guy's falling. Well again, 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.280 McCarthy's the one calling plays, and McCarthy on the Super 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:14.400 Bowl calling plays. So being that that's the fact, I'm okay. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.400 So when it comes to whomever the OC was going 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:17.960 to be, and we talked about it before the OC 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.720 was named, whomever that might be, they weren't going to 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:22.320 come in calling plays. They were going to come in 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.480 and try to help McCarthy craft on a weekly basis. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.200 What the what the offense was going to look like, 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.520 and that's what Shottenheimer is going to do. So because 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.040 that role is not full blown offensive coordinator. As far 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.480 as you know what a traditional OC would do, I don't. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.880 I don't see why I would invest so much emotional 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:43.200 energy into either being super upset about it or being 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.640 super hyped about it. It's it just is what it is. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:49.040 Mike's gonna call the plays, you know, and hopefully Schottenheimer 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.280 can help him mode it on a weekly basis in 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:56.280 a great way. Do you have to assign somebody the 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.960 title of offensive coordinator or anythlf? He do not, so 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.760 why I think there's an add an element to that, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.880 And I was about to kind of throw this into 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:09.760 the fold anyways. I don't think he's bringing just this 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.640 unworldly knowledge to your offense, kind of like what we 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.439 talked about last week. If you wanted to go get 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.640 another West Coast guy for your offensive coordinator, go get 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.400 somebody who's been under the tutelage of Sean McVay or 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.880 somebody who's been underneath Kyle Shanahan. Schottenheimer's done a ton 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:33.000 of things. My biggest question mark for Brian Schottenheimer is 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.360 how do you get Dak Prescott back to being Dak Prescott. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.680 That's your biggest role, and he's a quarterback guy. He's 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.080 been a quarterback guy for a long time. Look At 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.600 some of the names that he's gone up against. Trevor Lawrence, 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.079 not gone up against. These are guys that he's worked with. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:52.280 Rather Trevor Lawrence, Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, Sam Bradford, Chad Pennington, 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.480 Brett Farve, rich Gannon, just to name a couple. That's 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.240 a good list. It's the best list you've ever seen. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.320 But it's a strong list of quarterback and that's most 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.480 of his starters. Now, there's been some other guys kind 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.360 of sprinkled in there that haven't worked out, but that's 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.480 gonna happen whenever you're in the NFL for twenty five years. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:14.079 With Brian Schottenheimer, I think he has an offensive coordinator 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:19.000 title and an offensive coordinator role because his main job 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.360 is to elevate this quarterback that's already been here. And 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.880 you wanted to go and get somebody who was used 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:30.560 to working with veteran quarterbacks who are either having some 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.440 struggles or on the middle part of their career or 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.200 whatever it may be. However, he might be a good 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.120 fit for Dak Prescott, and that might be why he's 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.600 the one with the title. Yeah, that's I just don't 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.440 understand if you don't have to give somebody a title, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.080 he's not truly the offensive coordinator, just making a quarterback coach. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.640 I think that's I think it's because you still actually 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.080 need a quarterbacks coach. So I think if if the 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:59.080 if the thought process on promoting Schottenheimer is because you're saying, well, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.520 I think he'd do better in a role of helping 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.800 Mike coordinate the offense than keeping him in the lane 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.680 of simply quarterbacks coach, which means I'm going to have 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.520 to still hire a new quarterbacks coach. Then you don't 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.360 want to create a redundancy there, right, So I would 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.880 prefer those be two separate roles entirely. I don't want 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:22.520 my offensive coordinator being my position coach at quarterback. I 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.440 want a guy in quarterbacks coach that is specifically tied 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.440 and glued to Dak Prescott stip on a daid league basis, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.080 as opposed to having to constantly step away because you 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:32.960 got to meet with the head coach to coordinate the 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.720 offense on But that's why I'm doing You're saying, yeah, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.440 if we know that he's not the OC, he's not 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.280 gonna have OC duties and he's primarily being elevated because 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.080 the impact he could potentially have him on deck then 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:47.000 make him the quarterback coach. Well, I think he's still 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.040 going to be coordinating. Well, he's just not calling, but 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.320 he's just not calling the plays. So the real time, 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.480 real time adaptations in game, you know, down to down, 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.280 quarter to quarter, half to half, that's going to be 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.600 Mike with you know, the assistance of Showery. What are 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.800 you seeing, Brian, what are you seeing? And of course 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.520 building out the game playing on a fortnight and he 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.280 was a passing game coordinator before. So I mean, I 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.920 again I don't it's titles, but I mean I'm not 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.880 entirely on either side of it, because again McCarthy is 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.120 the one calling the plays. And I will say there 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.040 is something interesting, And I would say this also for 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.679 those that are who were reman Kellen Moore and we 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.280 defended Kelly Moore against this reman Kelly Moore. Don't we 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.920 need the Cowboys need a more experienced offensive coordinator Keller 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.560 Moore is not learning fast enough. He needs more experience. Well, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.280 you got here he is. You got yourself in an 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.960 experienced offensive coordinator. But what's also interesting if you go 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:43.120 back to his OC days, Brian's OC days in Seattle. Uh, 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.560 granted it was prime Russell Wilson, but those three seasons 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.880 the Seahawks were top ten in offense and points points 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.160 per game. And so now you have that kind of 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:56.840 a mind coming. They did, they did, and they were. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.440 They were six the points per game in twenty eighteen, 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.120 they were ninth in twenty nineteen, they went back to 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.480 eighth in twenty twenty, and then twenty one was his 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.559 final season. He was in sixteen, right, so thanks kind 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.480 of fell off, and I think that was the year 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.839 Russ got hurt. That was Yes, so he's coming to 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.360 we're not coming too, but he's being promoted within the 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.440 Cowboys system. That stop me if you hurt this before, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.320 ladies and gentlemen. Likes to run the ball, likes to 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.880 establish the run. And then used to Yeah, I was 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.400 about to say, who are we running it with right now? Man, 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.960 TBD TPD here exactly right, But I don't I will 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.640 say this. I don't think that that matters greatly on 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.439 what the game plan is going to be in twenty 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:45.600 twenty three, be it Zeke and or Tony Pollard, or 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.440 it's Tony Pollard and Malie Davis, or it's Ezekiel Eli 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.400 and Malie Davis. I mean either one of that, that 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.559 either of those scenarios, you have enough talent to combo 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.079 package and still lean heavily on the run to set 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:00.800 up the play action because as I stated at the 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:04.000 top of the show, Schottenheimer he's one of the old 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.440 seeds that loves to go off of the play action. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:07.640 Where you can't go off the play action if you 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.640 don't establish the run. Now, so he does love to 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.240 lean heavily on the run as well. And now he's 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.600 married with the Mike McCarthy who wants to consistently run 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:18.280 the ball, gets get his running backs thirty touches a game. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.160 So you're going to see that. And I don't think 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.080 the personnel really matters that. I think the Cowboy is 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.040 going to be committed to that to help set Dak 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.520 Prescott up to win. And keep in mind, you're you're 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:31.120 coming with a new new offensive line coach as well. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.920 He has to get that offensive line in order and 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.560 jailing and rolling out he wants. So while that's happening, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.840 you're going to have to buy Dak Prescott some time 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.040 until things settle up on your front five and the 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.320 other best way to do that it's play action. It 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.920 sounds like it's turning into a running team again. It's 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.920 kind of head that way. Yeah, I mean, think about 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.960 those line coaches. He was here, running guy. It's full speed. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.600 He was a land telling you it's going to be 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.160 full speed ahead on on the run, and then when 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.040 they pass, it's going to be play action out of 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.240 a West coast like, let's get the ball out quickly, 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.200 and let's let's task guys like Ceedee Lamb who can 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.600 Let's task guys like Michael Gallup getting back to health. 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.440 Let's make sure that we have playmaking personnel like a 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.000 Jake Ferguson or Payon Hendershott who can take the ball, 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.760 receive it five to six yards out and then get 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.240 you another seven or eight. So, if you're looking at 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.920 the Kyle Shanahan type offensive, Sean McVay offense is all 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.880 about playmakers on offense, It's about getting the ball out quickly, 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.200 use motions to disguise pre snap, and then once the 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.160 ball is out, it's I need you to get me 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.360 another ten yards after this five yard reception. So the 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.040 only my main question going forward is what does the 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.960 personnel look like? I was about to ask Kyle a question, 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.480 mister draft guy. Yeah, how many draft picks does Dallas 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.600 have this year? Probably ten? Ten? Yeah, they've got seven 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.200 right now they have They have one picks in every 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.360 single round, so they have all of their draft capital. 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.480 They have not traded a single thing away, and they 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.160 should get three top picks. So let's let's just market. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:03.880 Let's as that Tony pod gets tagged. That's assumed. That's 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.960 a good assumption, pretty relatively good put up there, this 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.000 franchise tag Tony Potter. Okay, Um, and you find a 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:14.240 way to cut Zeke down, you know, financially, so by 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.200 cut team. Um, and you still have Millie Davis right, 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.600 he's on a cur Do you draft running back? No? Nope? Okay, 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.600 not even close. Okay, uh, let me let me rephrase that. No, No, 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.360 you're a quick on him. Not in the first round. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.640 I'm not saying that. That's the thing. There are people 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.280 right now that are on the Bejean Robinson train. I 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.920 really like Bejean Robinson. He's the running back out of Texas. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:39.600 Hell of a player, top notch running back, great great 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.240 play Washington was. Yeah, he should have been getting ready 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.240 to get in the building. Should have been a hum. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.560 Finally he was really really, really really good. Here's the thing. One, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.480 I don't think he's gonna fit to twenty six. I 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.160 think somebody's gonna snag him before then, somebody who doesn't 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.360 have as many needs across the board, and they're just 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.360 gonna grab him because he's that big of a weapon too. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.920 If he does make it there, he might be the 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.600 only guy I'm okay with taking. And the only way 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.760 I'd be okay taking him is if Tony Pollard's not 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.800 in the fold. That's my that's my only way I'm 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:16.200 taking Bijan Robinson at twenty six is if as if 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.359 Tony Pollard is not on the Cowboys at that point, 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.720 like he goes somewhere else in free agency and whatever. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.120 And that's fair. But even then you have to look 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.320 at your other positions of need to see where they stay. 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.280 Completely agree, were you able to retain Lve for a 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:33.399 second maybe season, go get a linebacker, a linebacker and 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:38.160 in the first round. I don't really love that either. Okay, 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.720 he wasn't an off linebacker though he's a pass rusher. Fair, 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.879 but but it's safe to say that. I mean the 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.440 last two linebackers that the Cowboys used the first round 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.640 pickle on. Yeah, it kind of worked out. They worked out, 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.560 they worked out. But I think there's a contingency of 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.080 fans that are standing on the table for Bijean Robinson. 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.679 I'm not standing on the table. I would be into 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.920 the idea depending on the situation outside of that. Day three, 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.240 I'll draft a running back Day three, give me, I'll 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.640 take a flyer on a guy late. There are a good, 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:08.720 good amount of running backs that are going to be 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.760 decent out of this draft. But you can't just take 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.119 a premium picking so like, no, you can, especially if 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:15.880 you have all three of those guys back. And we 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.600 were coming off a season where there were a ton 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:21.680 of question marks at CB two opposite Treyvon Diggs, and 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.520 you see what de Ron Bland can do in the slot. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.080 You know the nickel and he can pop out every 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.720 once in a while. But you know, presumably Anthony Brown 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.040 is going to be healthy, but it's a contract situation 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.320 for Anthony Brown as well, So you have to again, 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.960 all of this has to be spoken about contextually because 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.760 it's not as easy as saying, oh, well, if you 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.280 don't have Tony Pollard, go get Bejean Robinson. If you 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.119 don't have Ezekiel Elliott anymore, go get Bejean Robinson. You 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.680 have other positions of need that are person as well, 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.640 and you don't as we have this conversation, you don't 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.199 know how free agency is going to shape out. You 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.560 would love to believe that late vander esh is going 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.920 to stay put. I would love to believe it, but 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.280 we've seen stranger things happen. And if there's bigger money 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.240 out there, and we don't know what georget was just 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.560 going to land. But wherever George Jetwards lands, now you 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.600 have the dynamic of a relationship there does George Edwards. 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.520 Wherever he lands, can he help wou lve into whatever 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.520 team is on his lending spot. So all of that 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.480 is to be determined. So as we have the conversation 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.080 in the second week of February, things are going to change. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.439 Things are going to change wildly between now and in 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.879 the final weekend in April. Yeah, and also not to 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:28.840 mention you've got so many different potentials in terms of 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.680 this draft at twenty six, because if you're filling out 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.200 a draft board, you're gonna have about twenty to twenty 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:38.439 four first round grades, but you're picking twenty six. So 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.480 maybe one of those first rounders that you have graded 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.119 as a first round drop, but chances are you're probably 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.400 gonna be picking a second round player at twenty six. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.159 You could trade back. I mean, you could develop it 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:52.399 running back as well. That's why I'm finally using the flyer. 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.359 I need to go call my buddy, Jeff Kavanaugh. We 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.800 call him track Captain. Trade down yeah, oh yeah, see 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.920 I don't know. Yeah, trade trade on down, John. I'd 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.560 be cool with that. Cooking, I'd be cool with that. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.480 I'm always more draft picks. Give me, give me, give me, 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.040 especially if you don't have to give up a whole 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.960 lot of draft capital, you can move down a little bit. 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.280 Give me some morbum darkness. I'm not on the running 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:17.679 back in the first and even I don't depends on 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.080 the scenario. Because even even to your point as far 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.280 as using a flyer on a guy, Malie Davis we 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.520 all love Millie Davis. He was undrafted. That's the thing, though, 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.040 is if Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard aren't there and 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.320 then be John Robinson's not there, I'm not taking a 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.919 running back. Even in that worst case scenario, I'm not 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.000 taking a round. My point is is that the Cowboys 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:40.640 do well perennially in developing running backs. If they don't, 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.119 if they do nothing well, they know how to develop 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.520 some running backs. They will be drafting a cornerback first round. 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.280 Is that your Your guess is that you say, first, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.800 my chest, say what your chests on Tuesday? So February, 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:56.800 let it be No, they're drafting a cornerback. Drafting a 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.200 corner in the first round. Yes, okay, there's some pretty 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.080 damn good corners. All right. We're gonna talk more about 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:05.800 draft corners when we come down scuting. When we come back. 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:11.359 Where could this higher elevate the wide receivers? Where do 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.119 we go with the wide receiver room. We've talked a 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.280 lot about running backs, We've talked a lot about the 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:19.880 quarterback position. But have these whiteouts shown us enough? And 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.000 where could you get more out of the passing game? 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:27.119 When we come back with more talking cowboys. When you build, 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.560 you start with the foundation, and homeownership is a foundation 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:34.080 of a stable future. The Bank of America Community Homeownership 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.840