Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolboxes, a production of Shondoland Audio in partnership
Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. Yes, I am so full and I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I love it. My son's school this morning
Speaker 1: has something called the Feast, where every single parent brings
Speaker 1: in a dish, right, and then the kids all sit
Speaker 1: at long tables and basically we go around and serve
Speaker 1: the children and they practice saying like yes please or
Speaker 1: no thank you? Oh nice? Okay. So the food is
Speaker 1: like all for the kids, and I was like, whatever,
Speaker 1: it's like eleven am I fucking made a plate? Cranberry stuffing,
Speaker 1: sweet potato pie, whipped cream, corn souflay, green bean sou flay.
Speaker 1: Is it a souflay corn? No? No? And one of
Speaker 1: the kids thought it would be delicious if the corn
Speaker 1: bread souflay thing had colored sprinkles off. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll lead that too. I mean, what am I thinking?
Speaker 1: It is a Friday, We've got work to do, We've
Speaker 1: got a podcast to record. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I got that on lock. It was not bad, but
Speaker 1: I definitely feel very tight in my pants. What did
Speaker 1: you make? What did you make for the kids? I
Speaker 1: lied to everybody. You picked that shit up at Bristol Farms.
Speaker 1: Its way too expensive. I ordered. I signed up. Well,
Speaker 1: first everyone just thinks we're gonna bring shabby pretzels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we did that last year. And Adam was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not bringing shabby pretzels. That's like hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 1: of dollars, Like, we're not doing that. And so I
Speaker 1: ordered all those Caesar My son loves Caesar salads, and
Speaker 1: no one had signed her salads. Ca salads so dumb.
Speaker 1: But I picked up. I just literally got caesar salad
Speaker 1: mixing bags, dumped it into both. But then I we're like,
Speaker 1: I made a sesar, what did you make? And I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I made the caesar salad, but I
Speaker 1: made the dressing from scratch and I grew the lettuce
Speaker 1: in my yard. You're such a liar. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: You know, they're a bunch of Scandal fans and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like that bitch actually be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's the mom who has it all. She's got the
Speaker 1: Scandal Rewatch podcast, she's got Katie's crib, she's an acting career,
Speaker 1: and she fucking grows lettuce and looks amazing. And I
Speaker 1: was like, and don't you fucking forget it? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: But when they hear this podcast again that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come over my auser replate and they're gonna be like,
Speaker 1: where are you're raised farmer's boxes in your yard or
Speaker 1: cultivate a full garden? And I'm like, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to make a goddamn thing. Speaking of which,
Speaker 1: can we just talk about and then we should we'll
Speaker 1: do an indro, But can you tell all of our
Speaker 1: listeners what lunch you packed every day at Scandal for
Speaker 1: like a lot of time? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we mentioned it a little bit in one of the
Speaker 1: one of the episodes. It was I'm obsessed with canned beats,
Speaker 1: canned beats and green beans, and I would put I mean,
Speaker 1: I put like a can of each in you know
Speaker 1: a type of ware thing, and then put oil and vinegar.
Speaker 1: And that's like I was having beats earlier today, Like
Speaker 1: this morning, I had breakfast and I had it. Is
Speaker 1: your poop just like red No, because our toilets are black,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't see what's going on. I can.
Speaker 1: So part of me is like, am I dying? Like
Speaker 1: the bood in my school? Is the blood in my
Speaker 1: I know, I can't. We got black toilets, like I mean,
Speaker 1: it's see like a black toilet is fucking I get it.
Speaker 1: A black toilet is there's something that feels naughty and
Speaker 1: sexy about it. I like it. But I also take
Speaker 1: I take a big responsibility in like taking a poop
Speaker 1: and then looking at it to see how I'm doing,
Speaker 1: Like have I had enough greens like you're supposed to
Speaker 1: us to be. In the olden days, there was like
Speaker 1: poopa mater, Yes, kings and shit In England, there was
Speaker 1: someone's job who the king would take a dunch in
Speaker 1: the bidet next in their royal apartment or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then someone a doctor would check the duty and make
Speaker 1: sure that their digestion was like, yeah, it was well.
Speaker 1: I bet they didn't have black toilets back then. They
Speaker 1: didn't have both. They didn't have anything that holes in
Speaker 1: the ground. Right, you were the king. I think you
Speaker 1: were pooping in like um like a like a rolling throne.
Speaker 1: So weird, I really think so a throne thing like
Speaker 1: a wooden throne. I can't believe you've never eating beats
Speaker 1: and pooped in a toilet to see, Yeah, my toilet
Speaker 1: paper is in black. So that's you know, I'm still guys,
Speaker 1: this is the greatest podcast episode anyone has ever been
Speaker 1: interested in. It all started with beats. Germo used to
Speaker 1: bring his salads and also talking about me not growing
Speaker 1: shit and not being great in the kitchen. Darby would
Speaker 1: make the most incredible salads. Yes, at Scandal with shit.
Speaker 1: She actually grew with kumpquats. Was the first time that
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you could put umpquats in salad,
Speaker 1: and now I'm obsessed with kumbquats. But she grew all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, she grew kumquats. She was unbelievable. And
Speaker 1: she would have like half a lemon in one of
Speaker 1: those lemon baggies that when you squeeze it it catches
Speaker 1: the sea. Yeah yeah. And then she would have like
Speaker 1: some cut up tofu and just like deliciousness. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I had Darby like cooking for me, I would
Speaker 1: eat like that all the time. Oh hell yeah. And
Speaker 1: she loves it too. She's so good at its stuff
Speaker 1: good at it which is funny because I think we
Speaker 1: haven't gotten there yet. But when we get into the
Speaker 1: flashback episodes, when Abby you see her in the past,
Speaker 1: when she was sort of like a Susie homemaker, like
Speaker 1: baking and stuff like that. Darby actually has a quality
Speaker 1: of that. Oh. Absolutely, she's a very good cook. She's
Speaker 1: a very good baker. She's very comfortable in a kitchen
Speaker 1: like I would be. That is not my thing. During
Speaker 1: the pandemic, she did a bunch of videos of her
Speaker 1: teaching how to cut grapefruits up, like in different different ways,
Speaker 1: different creative ways to cut grapefruit. And it was the
Speaker 1: most mesmerizing thing I'd ever seen. I was like mesmerizing
Speaker 1: and her laugh breakdown. Yes, yes, videos, she's the most infectious.
Speaker 1: I love her. Like when she's laughing and having like
Speaker 1: a mental breakdown thinking something so funny, I'm I, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's the best. I think it's because she's just so pretty.
Speaker 1: She's so beautiful. That's that's part of it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: she's it's just so fun to watch her. Yes, she's
Speaker 1: so magical. She's also redhead that has the most like
Speaker 1: she just looks like a unicorn talking about like people
Speaker 1: who we g and I have talked about on the podcast,
Speaker 1: like you can't hide from anywhere. I'm fine. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine walking through life as Darby with that fire engine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's read. Yeah, she's so good about going incognito though,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because she also want to
Speaker 1: hat like, Yeah, she's so good about it. So that
Speaker 1: some very cool trench coat. Yeah. Today's episode of the
Speaker 1: Scandal Rewatch podcast. We're talking about episode one oh five,
Speaker 1: called Crash and Burn, which aired on April twenty six
Speaker 1: and twenty and twelve. It was written by Mark Wilding
Speaker 1: and directed by Steve Robin. It was guest starring Brendan
Speaker 1: Hines as Gidy and Wallace Bellamy Young his first lady,
Speaker 1: Mellie Grant, Joshua Molina as David Rosen, Ram Beckel as
Speaker 1: Hank Tanner, and Darren Petty as Andrew Mackelson. Yes up,
Speaker 1: we got to this place again. Are you going to
Speaker 1: do the synopsis or shoulmiji, let's see. Let's see what
Speaker 1: goes down. Let me hear you do that. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: see synopsis. Olivia and her team helped defend the pilot
Speaker 1: of a commercial plane that crashed, killing all on board.
Speaker 1: When a Mandatanner goes missing, Hawk must call upon his
Speaker 1: pass to help find her. Fits ask the vice president
Speaker 1: for help. Very nice, yo, can I just say how
Speaker 1: special this episode is. I mean, there were so many emotions.
Speaker 1: I cried like a bunch of times watching this episode,
Speaker 1: and not only because it, you know, because of the
Speaker 1: tragic stuff that happens in the episode and the things
Speaker 1: that the characters are going through and there's you know,
Speaker 1: the plane crash, and yes, but it was I was
Speaker 1: super emotional about it because it made me. It made
Speaker 1: me miss doing the show, It made me miss the cast,
Speaker 1: It made me miss hug really like, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this was such a special time, especially
Speaker 1: that opening scene when we're all in in Olivia's apartment
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what happened to Amandatanner. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were all just like on point and just going back
Speaker 1: and forth and just brought me back to those days
Speaker 1: where we'd all be shooting together, right and we would
Speaker 1: have an ensemble. Those that scene that opens this episode
Speaker 1: where we're all in Olivia's apartment and Amnitana has been taken,
Speaker 1: and every single one of us it's like music, Like
Speaker 1: you had said before on this podcast, like everyone's interjecting
Speaker 1: lines and we're all holding this ball up and keeping
Speaker 1: the scene going and like working together as a team
Speaker 1: and you say, there's a guy watching you. Her trash
Speaker 1: was taken out, and then Olivia says, how do you know?
Speaker 1: And you say, because that's how i'd do it. That's
Speaker 1: how I would do it. Yeah. I love hearing that. Ge,
Speaker 1: Like you watch these episodes and you're like, I mean,
Speaker 1: Huck has so much in this episode and we'll get
Speaker 1: into that, but like I could see why you miss
Speaker 1: playing him, Yeah, like he was so special. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know oftentime, like you work on a project and
Speaker 1: you're like, fuck, I wish in the moment. I wish
Speaker 1: I was more in the moment and really enjoyed it
Speaker 1: we were doing because it was such a special like
Speaker 1: what did I say, lightning in a bottle? Like are
Speaker 1: to have this experience? But for Scandal, I miss it
Speaker 1: and I missed the people and I missed the show.
Speaker 1: But I don't feel that because I feel like we
Speaker 1: really really enjoyed the experience and being around each other
Speaker 1: and knowing how special it was and and not taking
Speaker 1: it for granted and just relishing in it and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, I felt like we had
Speaker 1: such a gift, like also knowing when it was the
Speaker 1: you know, Sean to let us know way in advance
Speaker 1: that it was ending, and I just feel like we
Speaker 1: all really got to like therapeutically like process. I felt
Speaker 1: like when it was over, we like, like you said,
Speaker 1: we just laid our head in the pillow and know
Speaker 1: that we all made the most end of this experience
Speaker 1: and didn't take it for granted. And I didn't regret anything.
Speaker 1: I didn't regret not, you know, not enjoying it or not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my god, me either. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the fucking best. Yeah. So we know that she's gone missing.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny? Wow, I have a I feel
Speaker 1: like Roxanne Dawson was around in this episode. I remember her.
Speaker 1: I feel like, well, we'll talk about it. But in
Speaker 1: the diner scene with Huck and Charlie, I remember rocks
Speaker 1: An directing us in that scene. I don't remember Steve Robin.
Speaker 1: But then I remember Steve Robin directing me when I'm
Speaker 1: torturing Charlie weird, which is weird. I wonder if he
Speaker 1: wasn't a that which would happen sometimes. Well, she was
Speaker 1: our producing director this season, so I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I remember coming on the plane crash, Harrison and Quinn
Speaker 1: are like walking down this like hill. We were at
Speaker 1: the Disney Ranch that day, like in Santa Clarita again,
Speaker 1: wearing fucking fall clothes, sweating ball sacks, and we come
Speaker 1: upon the set, which is so impressive. Like that's when
Speaker 1: I remember being like, my god, like this show has
Speaker 1: like a budget. Like I came upon this field where
Speaker 1: there's like a blown up plane and there's like fake
Speaker 1: body parts everywhere and all of these flags, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't I couldn't remember Katie was that plane? Actually there
Speaker 1: was scgid in I couldn't remember. Actually, yes, wow, I
Speaker 1: think in my memory it is right, right, I think correct.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but like maybe at the Disney
Speaker 1: Ranch that's like in stock there. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of like at Universal Studios. Yeah, like I think
Speaker 1: that might be like sets that are there. I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I have a memory of Roxanne saying to me,
Speaker 1: and me being so upset, don't have your mouth a
Speaker 1: gape like that again when you come when you come
Speaker 1: upon the plane crash, because Quinn just does that all
Speaker 1: the time. I love you when you had your mouth agape.
Speaker 1: Thanks gee. Now I look back and I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: she was right. I should have taken that note. Quinn
Speaker 1: does that way too much and I need to grow up, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's her too, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been doing it. I should have taken
Speaker 1: the note and I didn't, And I remember her giving
Speaker 1: me the note and me being like kind of upset
Speaker 1: and for once thinking like, first of all, I'd never
Speaker 1: been in a series regular on the show before, so
Speaker 1: it had never occurred to me like, oh, like you
Speaker 1: should think about your character in relation to like all
Speaker 1: the other episodes and like the character you're building. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was like from the Guest Star World like the same.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I just was treating each story
Speaker 1: like in it of itself, like I wasn't. Really I
Speaker 1: would never be like, oh, well, in the last episode,
Speaker 1: I had my mouth agape at Amanda Tanner's door, and
Speaker 1: then the first episode, I had my mouth agape when
Speaker 1: I when Quinn was when Olivia was berating her on
Speaker 1: the shit, I had my mouth. I gave way too much.
Speaker 1: But also like, as an actor, you don't want to
Speaker 1: think about you know what I mean. You're in the
Speaker 1: in the moment of the scene, so you're not you
Speaker 1: can't remember you're not I'm not thinking like, oh, I
Speaker 1: did this with my eyes and this scene, so I
Speaker 1: shouldn't do it in this one. And you know you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be thinking about that too much. But right, listen,
Speaker 1: you you felt like it was a thing. But watching
Speaker 1: the episode your mouth, you were like, that's the fourth
Speaker 1: time Quinn has had a mouth. The gate was very
Speaker 1: appropriate for me. Well, thank you, since you are the
Speaker 1: best acting ever, I'll take that. Then I wrote in
Speaker 1: my notes, we fucking meet Charlie. Oh, yes, this is
Speaker 1: the introduction to Charlie. Yeah, like you see, Yes, you're
Speaker 1: eating the sandwich, which, by the way, do you remember that? Listen, bitch,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I wrote a whole page
Speaker 1: on eating moments. It literally says eating moments, Katie. I'm
Speaker 1: not even kidding. I wrote my first question. My first
Speaker 1: question is why huck Finn? Second question? What sandwich were
Speaker 1: you eating when you saw Charlie? Don't get me started.
Speaker 1: Do you remember what it was? Yes, of course I do. Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me about eating moments. It was on Holy Toast
Speaker 1: and it was lettuce, tomato, and mustard, and it was
Speaker 1: a turkey sandwich. I'm pretty sure there was Swiss cheese
Speaker 1: on it as well. But the great thing about our
Speaker 1: props team was Jeff Props and George. I mean, we
Speaker 1: love them so much the best, but they when you
Speaker 1: would have an eating scene, they would go up to
Speaker 1: you the day before, or usually the day before a
Speaker 1: couple of days before that. They knew that scene was
Speaker 1: coming up, and they'd be like, what do you want
Speaker 1: to eat? If it was in the script that it
Speaker 1: was a sandwich, they'd be like, what kind of sandwich
Speaker 1: do you want? Once I had to eat a fucking
Speaker 1: cheeseburger when I had a scene with Joe Morton, and
Speaker 1: all I could think about was shooting that scene and
Speaker 1: getting to eat that cheeseburger. And then I'm not even
Speaker 1: look how excited I am. This is crazy. But the
Speaker 1: thing about shooting a show like this is they make
Speaker 1: several several of the sandwiches or the burgers, or they
Speaker 1: buy them because you know you have to do several takes.
Speaker 1: So all I would think in my head was I'm
Speaker 1: going to get to take the rest of them home,
Speaker 1: or I would get pissed if somebody else was like
Speaker 1: can I get that? I was like, excuse me, Giermo,
Speaker 1: you are it looked delicious. And then for the Half
Speaker 1: Baked fans, I don't know if you can tell a
Speaker 1: little salute to Half Baked. They put Funnians on my plate,
Speaker 1: and Funnians is a big thing on Half Baked. When
Speaker 1: Kenny is you know, going through the list of things
Speaker 1: and at the end someone says funnyans. Don't forget the
Speaker 1: Funnians or something like that. Did you on purpose pick
Speaker 1: Funnians or did they just happen to put the Funnians
Speaker 1: on there. I remember us talking about it and saying
Speaker 1: how funny it would be if we put Funnians on
Speaker 1: the plate because it was a little sort of wink
Speaker 1: to Half Baked. Was George props or Jeff Props? Did
Speaker 1: they were they like half Baked fans to know that
Speaker 1: Jeff was Yeah Jeff, Jeff for sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the best. But yes, and so eating is always
Speaker 1: you know, I think that certain actors are super scared
Speaker 1: or they're nervous when they have to eat in a
Speaker 1: scene because you know, people don't want to eat and
Speaker 1: getting fat. But um Well or Tony and Scott, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: but they never eat on the show. The only thing
Speaker 1: they ate was Olivia, sorry out, No, keep it in, honey,
Speaker 1: keep it in. But anyway, eating. But then there are
Speaker 1: some actors who swear by it and think that it
Speaker 1: makes you the best actor ever. Like, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that I've heard for years that, like, if you go
Speaker 1: back into like all of Brad Pitt's performances, he's almost
Speaker 1: never doing an entrance without eating something. Really, he eats
Speaker 1: in most his scenes. Yeah, because there are very few
Speaker 1: things that you can do as an actor where you
Speaker 1: can't fake it. You cannot fake eating eat you have
Speaker 1: to act. People do it, but actors do it, and
Speaker 1: bad eating on in a film or on a TV
Speaker 1: show is the worst Gilmore Girls, I love the show
Speaker 1: The worst fucking eaters in the world. To go back
Speaker 1: and in their coffee cups are like you know, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: like there's nothing in them, Like it's the worst. They
Speaker 1: never take a bite. If they do, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's so. Any actor is listening to this podcast if
Speaker 1: you want to consider yourself legit, Yeah, you gotta fucking
Speaker 1: eat in the sit because it also does make you
Speaker 1: a better actor. You can't fake well, you can't fake eating,
Speaker 1: but you shouldn't smoking cigarettes. Ye can't feed, so like
Speaker 1: those are the moments where they're kind of like actor gifts. Also,
Speaker 1: like acting with a baby, like you can't really like
Speaker 1: you have to actually like be there because it truly
Speaker 1: is like you don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: I remember my first like major family eating scene with
Speaker 1: on this other show. I was on my first series
Speaker 1: regular run. I was twenty five. Lorie metcalf, who's like
Speaker 1: everyone thinks she's an incredible actress, myself included. We had
Speaker 1: these family like Sunday night dinner scenes that would take forever,
Speaker 1: and they would go around and around and around and
Speaker 1: shoot everybody's point of view and everyone was eating and
Speaker 1: Lorie meccalf would eat the shit out of her food
Speaker 1: really and I would be like, this woman's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a great ash. She's on Big Bank. Hey, she's
Speaker 1: a great eater. They're always eating on that show. And
Speaker 1: she's eat an eater and she's talking while she's eating,
Speaker 1: which is what Brad Pitt does too. He's talking with
Speaker 1: the full mouth, he's talking with like wiping his mouth
Speaker 1: with the napkin. He's talking while he's taking SIPs of
Speaker 1: whatever drink is being served, and like that makes you good,
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I agree, I agree. Okay, so then
Speaker 1: you see Charlie, who was cast crazily when we see
Speaker 1: him for a blip while you're hacking to see that
Speaker 1: he was caught on a traffic cam. Yeah, it's the
Speaker 1: first time we're seeing this character, Charlie, who's played by
Speaker 1: fucking George Newburn, who's the dad from Father of the Bride. Yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: he's the dad. He's the dad, or he's the groom.
Speaker 1: He's the groom, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Now he's a dad.
Speaker 1: He's a dad. Now, he's a dad. He Now he
Speaker 1: would get cast as the dad now, but at the
Speaker 1: time he was the groom, George, and he was also
Speaker 1: the boyfriend in Adventures in Babysit. Yes, yes, And George
Speaker 1: told me a story once I bet you were there
Speaker 1: that he was super close to getting the role of
Speaker 1: Marty McFly in Back to the Future, screen tested against
Speaker 1: Michael fucking Jay. They flew him out. He was going
Speaker 1: to Northwestern at the time. He was a drama major.
Speaker 1: He was auditioning and the he flew him in and
Speaker 1: he screen tested against Michael J. Fox. How amazing is that?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that? Yeah? I mean anyway, I just
Speaker 1: think the casting choice on that oh so good. And
Speaker 1: he did not know none of us knew, the writers
Speaker 1: know that that Charlie would be what Charlie became. But
Speaker 1: I love that they cast against type, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. They didn't cast like some sort of goon
Speaker 1: looking guy that you're like, oh, he's a bad guy.
Speaker 1: Bad guy looks like the loveliest, like kindest just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: ead sitcom dad you've ever seen in your life nineties Like,
Speaker 1: he's just so like I mean, he's from Arkansas. Go
Speaker 1: get a snack and we'll be right back. Can I
Speaker 1: just say really quickly? I love in this scene is
Speaker 1: one of the first times, maybe it's this second or
Speaker 1: third time that we've seen it on on in the
Speaker 1: first season, but that that Mike Huck's computer becomes the camera.
Speaker 1: So they would take away my computer, like this is
Speaker 1: us on set getting ready to shoot the scene, and
Speaker 1: they would put a camera right in dead in my face,
Speaker 1: and I would have to look into the camera and
Speaker 1: pretend I was typing, and that was so much fun.
Speaker 1: I love doing that. They would call it Huck Cam.
Speaker 1: It was called cam yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So then
Speaker 1: later on in post they would superimpose like the green
Speaker 1: like numbers and like computer typing letters going over Guarmo's face.
Speaker 1: But I had to be in Huck cam all the
Speaker 1: time too, like just kind of crouched down next to you,
Speaker 1: and we're both looking like dead into the camera as
Speaker 1: you're like fatly pretending to hit keys and Huck's I
Speaker 1: feel like we all loved being in Huck's office. It
Speaker 1: was such a special set, right, it was so unique
Speaker 1: and industrial and and just a lot of wires and
Speaker 1: growing things. Was he had a fucking grow a grow house,
Speaker 1: a little grow house in the back. Yeah. Towards like
Speaker 1: season three or four or something, they added that, like
Speaker 1: did they ever know? I mean, I felt like there
Speaker 1: were all these fucking plants hanging where you were just
Speaker 1: like I know they weren't weed, but I used to
Speaker 1: be like, this is on track, right, yes, Hucks little
Speaker 1: dark hydroponic is that the word? I think? So? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right then we see Harrison is everyone's trying to listen
Speaker 1: to this black box recording from the plane crash to
Speaker 1: figure out who is truly at fault for the plane crashing?
Speaker 1: Is it the pilot? You know? Darren Petty, who played
Speaker 1: the husband of the pilot so well, hires Olivia Pope
Speaker 1: to sort of represent the pilot of the plane that
Speaker 1: she was not at fault. And everyone's listening to the
Speaker 1: black Box and we see Harrison doing like the most
Speaker 1: amazing like that. He's so musical and he's like obsessively
Speaker 1: listening to the box. It's in this episode where I'm
Speaker 1: like this, fuck, I love that there are three degrees
Speaker 1: of Britney Spears on Yahndall you were in a Britney
Speaker 1: Spears music video. Yeah, Shanda wrote Crossroads, that's yes, Crossroads yep,
Speaker 1: and Columbus choreographed one of her one of her tours. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's so crazy. Yeah, why did she never visit?
Speaker 1: Set right between the whole thing of like listening to
Speaker 1: the black Box over and over again, figuring it out,
Speaker 1: and then doesn't Harrison look at us. We're at the
Speaker 1: coffee station and he shouts like, it wasn't the plane,
Speaker 1: it wasn't it, And his eyes are all red and
Speaker 1: you could tell, you know, I feel like Harrison had
Speaker 1: read makeup put on his eyes. Plus his eyes looked insane.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, hey hadn't slept because he's just
Speaker 1: like listening and listening and listening and trying to decode
Speaker 1: what's in this and then he yells at them and
Speaker 1: says something like, I don't remember when we learned that
Speaker 1: Laurie wasn't drinking right again, all these guest stars, coast stars,
Speaker 1: their performances, they're fucking ridiculous. So good, dirtess that was
Speaker 1: too drunk on her birthday and stand in and then
Speaker 1: she goes and visits her in the hotel room and
Speaker 1: she's like, doesn't even know that everyone had gone down?
Speaker 1: So good? So good? The yeah, yeah, the one that
Speaker 1: was hung over. Yes, it was so good. She played
Speaker 1: Carly Reston and her name her, her actually actress's name
Speaker 1: is Amanda Fuller, and fucking Google, I sure did, Katie,
Speaker 1: because because of what you were just saying, she's so
Speaker 1: good that I was like, we have to give this
Speaker 1: actor a shout out. Her name is Amanda Fuller, and
Speaker 1: she's yeah, she's been in a ton of stuff. She
Speaker 1: was in a Graze episode. She played Brittany Murphy in
Speaker 1: a TV movie about Brittany Murphy. Remember the amazing Brittany Murphy.
Speaker 1: She fucking killed that. But that this actress fucking just
Speaker 1: brought it. No, she was unbelievable. She's hysterical crying, she's
Speaker 1: funny at the top, just opened the door and be
Speaker 1: like what And then she has to go into this
Speaker 1: whole thing where she realized she just missed death. Darby
Speaker 1: is so good in this scene too, because you could
Speaker 1: see how cold she is and she's like, she doesn't
Speaker 1: know how to deal with someone being emotional. So she
Speaker 1: pushes the tissue box forward. Yes, and then she keeps crying.
Speaker 1: Then she pushes it forward again, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's so class. She's not comforting at all. Yeah. Was
Speaker 1: that written in the stage directions or is that Darby
Speaker 1: just making genius acting choices. I want to say it
Speaker 1: was Darby making genius acting choices. I want to say
Speaker 1: that too, so so good, Like she did not know
Speaker 1: how to comfort this what the character did not know
Speaker 1: how to comfort someone that's breaking down like that. It
Speaker 1: was just so fun to watch to watch her work.
Speaker 1: We're back in the OPA office, comes in and says
Speaker 1: and screams, Amanda Tanner is dead. Oh yeah, god, I
Speaker 1: remember getting chills doing that scene. Oh that was one
Speaker 1: of my favorite. You know how you have scenes that
Speaker 1: it just feels so good to do and they stick
Speaker 1: with you. I just remember that moment. What were our
Speaker 1: lines leading up to it? We were all like, I
Speaker 1: just remember, We're running around in a fury and Olivia's
Speaker 1: giving up fucking orders like you go this, and you
Speaker 1: go this, and you go this, and and then you're
Speaker 1: just like you yell, which Huck never does. Yeah, everyone's
Speaker 1: caught up because I don't know if we mentioned it,
Speaker 1: but a plane and a plane crashes in the episode
Speaker 1: and it kills one hundred and twenty people, and then
Speaker 1: Olivia now represents the pilots union, right, and she expects
Speaker 1: the airline is going to blame Lorie the pilot, which
Speaker 1: they do. I thought we were all like running around
Speaker 1: talking about like how to find Amanda or something, and
Speaker 1: then you just come Amanda Tanner's dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was something like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you record stop the whole scene and Olivia looks at
Speaker 1: you and she's like, are you sure. I just shake
Speaker 1: my head yes, and then she oh, and then that's
Speaker 1: my favorite fucking Carrie Washington moment. Acting. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: the same taste. When she marches out to the street
Speaker 1: to the black Dan that's been fucking watching it, and
Speaker 1: she's like, roll down your fucking window on the windfield.
Speaker 1: Tell your guy that I know, I know, yeah, talking
Speaker 1: to your little microphoning your brands and you tell him
Speaker 1: that I know. Yeah. When I see her do that scene,
Speaker 1: I feel like she is summoning her bronx, her like roots,
Speaker 1: like her bronx, Like this is how I talk to
Speaker 1: someone when I am like in my most power and
Speaker 1: I'm so pissed and I've been so wrong. Absolutely it's remarkable.
Speaker 1: And then she turns away from screaming at the two
Speaker 1: dudes and the sus Dan, and the whole shot goes
Speaker 1: into slow mo and she she like rubs her arms yes,
Speaker 1: which is so just that little moment, Oh god, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's unfucking believable. So we know she's dead,
Speaker 1: which is horrible and stupid ass. Quinn Fergus Yeah, makes
Speaker 1: a promise, finds Amanda Tanner's dad, brings him to the
Speaker 1: office and said everything's going to be okay, I promise,
Speaker 1: to which Olivia is like, Quinn, can I speak to
Speaker 1: you for a minute at the coffee station? And then
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, what and She's like we don't make promises.
Speaker 1: Yeah ever, and I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: And she's like, Amanda Tanner is dead and I was
Speaker 1: like what I was not mouth agape there, I gave
Speaker 1: you other options. Nope, just real quickly. In this scene,
Speaker 1: we are introduced to uh to Hank tan Or Hank
Speaker 1: tan Or, who is Amanda Tanner's dad, and it's played
Speaker 1: by Graham Beckel. Now let me tell you something. I
Speaker 1: went down a rabbit hole googling Homeboy because I was like,
Speaker 1: I do that with all the co stars because it's
Speaker 1: so fun to see what they've been in. So Graham
Speaker 1: Beckel was in fucking Broke Back Mountain. He plays Anne
Speaker 1: Hathaway's dad in that fucking amazing scene when they're having
Speaker 1: thanks Giving dinner and Hathaway and Jake Jillenhall they have
Speaker 1: the TV playing and their little son is like watching
Speaker 1: the TV and the mother's like, um, you eat your food,
Speaker 1: stop watching TV. And Jake Jillenhall goes and turns off
Speaker 1: the TV and the dad gets up and he's like,
Speaker 1: turns it back on. Anyway. It's a back and forth,
Speaker 1: but it's such a powerful scene and this man played
Speaker 1: and Hathaway's dad. Wow, I would have never known that.
Speaker 1: How great is he in this episode? Like he's he's
Speaker 1: that's heartbreaking, heartbreaking and what a hard yes, like let's
Speaker 1: come in, let's meet you, and let's have you be
Speaker 1: here on the worst day of your character's life, like yes,
Speaker 1: seeing your daughter's fucking body like this guy is. He's
Speaker 1: just so vulnerable in this episode and he's so sad
Speaker 1: and to see this like grown masculine ass man like
Speaker 1: breaking down. He's he was again perfect fucking casting. We'll
Speaker 1: get and we Katie. I was wondering, we'll get to it,
Speaker 1: but this episode, like you, I don't even have to
Speaker 1: say it, right, Oh, I remember it forever forever you
Speaker 1: and I I have goose. Yeah. I think that's why
Speaker 1: I cried so much watching the episode, because I was
Speaker 1: remembering that and oh it was just such a yeah,
Speaker 1: but we'll get to it. Oh my god, Garmo and I,
Speaker 1: well you have to get there. We're gonna get to
Speaker 1: that scene really soon. Yeah, Okay, okay, okay. Olivia calls
Speaker 1: fits he didn't know, he didn't know that she's dead. Yes,
Speaker 1: they do like a split screen down the center with
Speaker 1: like you know where they split the screen in two
Speaker 1: and there's like a black bar between their phone call,
Speaker 1: and Olivia is the first person to tell Fits that
Speaker 1: Amanda Tanner's dead, and he's like, come, look me in
Speaker 1: the eye. You know I'm telling the truth. It's not
Speaker 1: something I would ever fucking do. And she says, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you let Cyrus off his leash. You know, if
Speaker 1: a dog mall is a baby, it's the owner's fault,
Speaker 1: and you know that's on you. Yeah, she said, he's
Speaker 1: a he's a pit bull. You let your you let
Speaker 1: your dog off the leash. Yeah. Oh, it's such a
Speaker 1: great scene. Yeah, it is such a fucking great scene.
Speaker 1: I wrote, I wrote come off split screen in my notes,
Speaker 1: and then I wrote very Brian to Palma, because Brian
Speaker 1: to Palma does add a lot in his movies. He
Speaker 1: does split screen. Yeah, oh, such a powerful scene. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then I wrote, they do right by the pilot and
Speaker 1: they have an alibi that she wasn't drinking. Then we
Speaker 1: go into Olivia asks, oh, this was my title whoa
Speaker 1: g acting? Oh man, which is basically for the scene
Speaker 1: where Olivia comes into your office and says, I need
Speaker 1: you to help me find the body. Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: you need me to come get you, you know, just
Speaker 1: call or something like that, and we're like, what what
Speaker 1: is this? What is happening? These scenes with a Huck
Speaker 1: and Olivia were always so so special because there was
Speaker 1: just that unspoken like action with those two, right. The
Speaker 1: room was so full of emotions and like just stuff
Speaker 1: when we would do those scenes, and it was so
Speaker 1: easy to play, but it was exhilarating to play these
Speaker 1: scenes with carry. It was so much fun. And in
Speaker 1: this episode, I think it's the first time and it's
Speaker 1: the first time you see Huck torture someone, but it's
Speaker 1: the first time that I thought, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is this is going to a really dark place with
Speaker 1: my character, you know, and I freaking loved it. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the thing that's ever happened to
Speaker 1: me in my life as an actor. Oh it was.
Speaker 1: I felt so so it was so great. But it's true.
Speaker 1: It's they asked of you. Like what they asked of
Speaker 1: you was so fucking wild, and you went there so beautifully.
Speaker 1: And I wrote, I wrote, um, whoa gez acting whoa
Speaker 1: in that scene? Um, Not to get too deep, but
Speaker 1: a person, like a person that's been through a lot
Speaker 1: of shit. I mean, we've all been through a lot
Speaker 1: of know, but this is like a gift to be
Speaker 1: able to to you know, slice yourself. I just Sally
Speaker 1: Field said this once in an interview. They were like,
Speaker 1: how do you prepare for those emotional scenes? And she said,
Speaker 1: I start symbolically sort of slicing myself open emotionally and
Speaker 1: opening up all those old wounds and scars and shit
Speaker 1: that happened to you. And I'm super like, if somebody
Speaker 1: walks in the room and they're going through a really
Speaker 1: hard time, my eye goes right to them and my
Speaker 1: heart opens up, and I'm like, I can't like settle
Speaker 1: and I can't really have a good time if I
Speaker 1: see someone that's going through something. Yes, yes, an EmPATH anyway,
Speaker 1: So it was a gift to be able to play
Speaker 1: this this character and I just use that shit, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You can like go there and
Speaker 1: you feel like you're not allowed to do that in
Speaker 1: your day to day life. So to like get to
Speaker 1: be able, you know, some people would like scream at
Speaker 1: a steering wheel or like sob cry in a shower. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and most people probably don't even let themselves do that.
Speaker 1: And then it's so awesome when you're an actor that
Speaker 1: you get to just like do this stuff, yeah yourself,
Speaker 1: go like go to a really dark place, go to
Speaker 1: like a really scary emotional place, and it's okay because
Speaker 1: you were in a safe environment. It was also exciting
Speaker 1: and not knowing what was going to happen when I
Speaker 1: was doing the scene, like emotionally, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? That was so exciting to be like, this
Speaker 1: is so fucked up. I don't know exactly what's going
Speaker 1: to happen, if I'm gonna cry or whatever, what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna feel and do anyway, Okay, Then I wrote, oh
Speaker 1: my god, he has Charlie on the tarp, red tool
Speaker 1: Huck gets his red toolbox about eight thousand exclamation points,
Speaker 1: and I wrote red toolbox multiple times. This is this
Speaker 1: is the first time we see the toolbox, which is
Speaker 1: so funny because our podcast is called Unpacking the Toolbox. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm packing the toolbox. Baby. Did you ever know that
Speaker 1: this was going to be his thing? No? Not at all,
Speaker 1: Not at all. I knew when we you know, when
Speaker 1: we got the episode at the table read or the
Speaker 1: day before whatever, But before that, no, I had I
Speaker 1: had no idea but again, I freaking loved it. I
Speaker 1: was like, God, he's gonna fucking torture someone with all
Speaker 1: these tools in his toolbox. How did you make George
Speaker 1: Newburn feel safe? Because I didn't know him very well,
Speaker 1: but I remember him being like, I can't believe I'm
Speaker 1: doing this job. I have one scene, you know where
Speaker 1: I have like talking with Gamo Diaz in a diner
Speaker 1: and then I'm like naked. He was like in a
Speaker 1: duct tape underwear on a tarp where I just have
Speaker 1: to scream a lot. And I was like, yeah, like
Speaker 1: I don't know for like an older dude who has
Speaker 1: a very successful career, like I don't know, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: would think of that job. What was it like on
Speaker 1: the day? Were you very collaborative? Were you nervous? Was
Speaker 1: he nervous? I think we were both nervous. I was
Speaker 1: super nervous, but an excited nervous, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because because the scene was so good. But I think
Speaker 1: the thing with me and George, we as people and
Speaker 1: as the characters, we clicked right away, like it felt right.
Speaker 1: You know how Sometimes that happens on a movie or
Speaker 1: a TV show where you're like, oh, this just and
Speaker 1: and I think that was the case with all the
Speaker 1: regulars on Scandal. Something about this cast just it was
Speaker 1: just right. It just made sense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And when Charlie came into picture, it made sense. And
Speaker 1: how can Charlie it just click with him? It was
Speaker 1: it was so easy to do these scenes with him
Speaker 1: because it just it just felt right. And I and
Speaker 1: also me and George I crack up a lot. We
Speaker 1: love to laugh, as you know, because you love to
Speaker 1: laugh with us two. You well, the three of us
Speaker 1: two were together a lot over the seven years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you what's so funny about you two seeing you
Speaker 1: do these scenes with him? You're both two of the
Speaker 1: funniest dudes, I know, two of the most sweetest in
Speaker 1: your hearts like people, I know, like like really genuinely
Speaker 1: like want good things for people. And then to just
Speaker 1: watch this episode and see him fucking screaming his head
Speaker 1: off while you're doing yea horribuying fucking things to him,
Speaker 1: Like I get, he's drilling holes into him. Yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 1: Is that what you were doing? It was drilling holes? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's drilling holes in his body. Yeah, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding me. That's disgusting all because he
Speaker 1: won't tell you where the Amanitata body. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: asking where her body is and he won't tell me.
Speaker 1: But look in my notes, I wrote, um to film
Speaker 1: this was frightening, exhilarating, anxiety inducing. I also wrote it
Speaker 1: felt like it felt like an orgasm. I was in
Speaker 1: a trance doing doing this scene. Holy shit. And and
Speaker 1: then I wrote if if it's like chanting, you know
Speaker 1: when you chant and you just get in a sort
Speaker 1: of trance. Saying the words that Shanda wrote and that
Speaker 1: the Scandal writers wrote, feels like chanting because it's again,
Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. It it's so well written,
Speaker 1: and it just flows out of your mouth so well.
Speaker 1: I felt like that happened a lot doing a huck
Speaker 1: scenes because I felt like I would go in a
Speaker 1: trance because sometimes, you know, you get caught up like fuck,
Speaker 1: am I going to remember the lines? And then I'm
Speaker 1: sure you do this too, or you thought about this,
Speaker 1: but it gets to the point where they're rolling and
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, action you In my head, I think,
Speaker 1: all right, let me see if I remember my lines
Speaker 1: and just let the words come out and you're and
Speaker 1: you have to say them super fast, so part of
Speaker 1: you just has to like relinquish control and just whatever
Speaker 1: happens happens or whatever comes out comes out when all
Speaker 1: the words come out. Right, Oh, it's just it's it's
Speaker 1: it's best feeling. Yeah, that aha moment or whatever. That
Speaker 1: like you're in the flow, Like you're in that human
Speaker 1: heightened high vibrational flow where you're like, so, yes, there
Speaker 1: is no time, there is no then or future. You're
Speaker 1: just like really heightened connective tissue right then and there.
Speaker 1: But I think that makes a lot of sense to
Speaker 1: the transpart because I do think sometimes Huck, the way
Speaker 1: you'll you sound when you're like doing some of those
Speaker 1: scenes as you're like it almost sounds like you're chanting.
Speaker 1: I've never even thought about that until this moment, but
Speaker 1: it's sort of oh my god that I could barely
Speaker 1: watch it. I was like completely terrified. Yeah, okay, then
Speaker 1: we have I put a shitload of exclamation points for
Speaker 1: Sally Langston. First, yes, yes, all in the White House.
Speaker 1: He's trying to pass the Dream Act, which is similar
Speaker 1: to like DACA, isn't it yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: fits wants and knows that this is the right thing
Speaker 1: to do to be passed. And Sally Langston is holding
Speaker 1: up all the votes and not letting it happen, and
Speaker 1: fits has the most like amazing monologue to her about
Speaker 1: like ha ha, yeah, yeah, fuck you, you're gonna put
Speaker 1: the dream act through. Yes, And Sally Langston is so
Speaker 1: wonderful And fans must have gone so crazy because that's
Speaker 1: Merit Gray's mom from Grey's Anatomy. Yes, kay, well, listen,
Speaker 1: can we talk about Kate Burton. What a fucking dope
Speaker 1: person she is. She is like, oh so lovely, so kind,
Speaker 1: so loving, the nicest freaking person. And I love seeing
Speaker 1: really find like nice, genuinely happy people play these asshole characters.
Speaker 1: She does it so so well. Also, Kate Burton, which
Speaker 1: again I went on a googling thing and I knew
Speaker 1: this already, but Kate Burton is the daughter of Richard Burton,
Speaker 1: who used to be married to Elizabeth Taylor Is. She's
Speaker 1: a daughter Richard Burton and Sybil Williams, who was a
Speaker 1: Welsh actress. And I just think it was amazing that
Speaker 1: on Scandal we had our president and vice president were
Speaker 1: Hollywood royalty, because we had Tony Goldwyn of Goldwyn Metro
Speaker 1: Mayer and his whole dynasty of like MGM. And then
Speaker 1: we had Sally Langston played by Kate Burton, who is
Speaker 1: Richard Burton's daughter. Like we had like two Hollywood lineage
Speaker 1: of like I mean, they have debt, their their their
Speaker 1: Hollywood royalty. It's been their blood, yea, their blood. It's
Speaker 1: why they can walk around and sort of be like
Speaker 1: I'm the president and I'm vice president or whatever. But
Speaker 1: my god, Sally Langston again, in this episode, you get
Speaker 1: your first glimpse at Sally Lankson. You get your first
Speaker 1: glimpse at Charlie. Two people who were with us till
Speaker 1: the end and who were in countless eight billion episodes
Speaker 1: and we're such geniuses on the show. Yes, and then
Speaker 1: we pull I remember this like it was yesterday. We
Speaker 1: pull Amanda Tanner out of the Potomac. Yes. We shot
Speaker 1: it in Long Beach? Do you remember that? Wasn't it
Speaker 1: Long Beach? We shot it in Long Beach? And I
Speaker 1: was so nervous because Scandal ABC or something was like
Speaker 1: making me go around at the same time and like
Speaker 1: interviewing you people, do you remember that? And we were
Speaker 1: pissed you were kind of pissed because it's such an emotional,
Speaker 1: you know scene, and like, yeah, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm watching a mandatanner being pulled out of
Speaker 1: the Potomac and instead I'm going around They've asked me
Speaker 1: to go around with my cell phone and being like,
Speaker 1: what do you like about scanned them? Like, obviously that
Speaker 1: shit is important because the show was in no way
Speaker 1: shape form a hit in season one, and we were
Speaker 1: doing whatever we could on the social media fucking channels
Speaker 1: to get anyone to watch our show. I feel like
Speaker 1: that was the hardest thing on the show, was navigating
Speaker 1: doing press stuff and being able to stay focused on
Speaker 1: our work on the show, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because that would get thrown at us all the time,
Speaker 1: where it was like they would come on set and
Speaker 1: we have to do epks, which is a electronic press
Speaker 1: kit and you do all these interviews and but that
Speaker 1: would happen all the time. But navigating that my first day,
Speaker 1: I remember it like, oh my god, Manatanna is being
Speaker 1: pulled out. We're all so upset. We didn't even know
Speaker 1: death was like a thing on the show. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm going around being like, can you tell us
Speaker 1: what you think about scales all And I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is I actually have the video still
Speaker 1: in my phone and when we put out this episode,
Speaker 1: I'm going to put that on so everyone can know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Oh hell yeah. And then we
Speaker 1: go to the morgue. Oh man, Katie and that is
Speaker 1: me and Garmo were like best friends for life. After
Speaker 1: that we bonded. I feel like that was our first
Speaker 1: like bonding moment where we truly bonded as as you know,
Speaker 1: as Katie and Giarmo. Like, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: fuck happened. Maybe it was because we were shooting the
Speaker 1: scene where you know, Amanda's dad is at the Morgan
Speaker 1: he has to identify her body, and it was already
Speaker 1: a super emotional, like somber ominous sort of feeling on
Speaker 1: said and and somehow like what do you what do
Speaker 1: you remember? We talked about this on previous episodes, where
Speaker 1: like sometimes the tears are there and sometimes they're not,
Speaker 1: And this was one of these days where for some reason,
Speaker 1: like in the universe, Giermo and I were just like
Speaker 1: a well of emotion and tears and feelings and we
Speaker 1: were standing at that window looking into the morguet a
Speaker 1: Manda's body, and I couldn't stop crying, and I just
Speaker 1: feeling the feelings of the show. And I had lost
Speaker 1: I was kept you know, things kept coming into my head.
Speaker 1: And I had lost a friend who had died of
Speaker 1: lung cancer right when I auditioned for the part, and she,
Speaker 1: for some reason was just like her spirit was like
Speaker 1: very present in the room for me. I remember you
Speaker 1: telling me that story. Yeah, instead of running away from it,
Speaker 1: I was really singing into it, and I was really emotional,
Speaker 1: and it was one of these days where it's like
Speaker 1: we had the opportunity to really just like feel it
Speaker 1: and gear right there with me. Yeah. I remember me
Speaker 1: and you stepping like away from everyone. We were in
Speaker 1: the back of the set and we were talking about
Speaker 1: all this stuff and we couldn't stop crying. And I
Speaker 1: remember you telling me now that you guys all, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you still do it go on a
Speaker 1: high every year every year on her death. Yeah, every
Speaker 1: year on her death. That day sticks so strongly in
Speaker 1: my memory, and it's so special. I do like I've
Speaker 1: never had an experience like that with with someone. It
Speaker 1: was so special, It was so oh Katie and I
Speaker 1: wrote down no tears stick here. We talked about we
Speaker 1: didn't need that sea. Yeah, sometimes you need that tears,
Speaker 1: so we didn't need that mental blood. Oh no, we
Speaker 1: didn't need it. We had tears for fucking days. We'll
Speaker 1: be back soon, guys. Oh, this part really quick. Olivia
Speaker 1: goes to touch Hawk at that same scene, and you
Speaker 1: like quickly jerk yourself away, and we realize that recoil. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that it has taken a toll. It has you. You
Speaker 1: getting Charlie on the tarp took its toll. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: I wrote, Amanda dead. We're crying. We were crying so
Speaker 1: much when we shot that. Do you remember Giarmo, I wrote,
Speaker 1: do you remember Katie? Oh my god, look, I said,
Speaker 1: I wrote, look Katie, exclamation point. Remember our special emotional
Speaker 1: time while filming at the Coroners. We couldn't stop crying.
Speaker 1: We truly bonded in this episode. No tears stick here,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are okay? Then Darren Petty crying for
Speaker 1: his wife. Finally they get to the bottom of it
Speaker 1: that like it was this horror fucking ladies fault about
Speaker 1: the plane. She made it to her daughter's recital and
Speaker 1: she decided to just duplicate right for when the plane
Speaker 1: was broken and she sends it up the ladder end.
Speaker 1: The plane was broken, but it was her fault for
Speaker 1: not filing it correctly. And yes, she's they're they're underpaid
Speaker 1: and overworked and normally her job used to be two
Speaker 1: people's jobs. And she's amazing in that scene. Can we
Speaker 1: just give a shout out to Leonore May is the
Speaker 1: actress who played that role. My God, Yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: am going to make out with you again, okay. Cast
Speaker 1: be known as the Scandal rewatch podcast where every fucking
Speaker 1: actor gets their fucking, fucking Yes, Leonora May amazing in
Speaker 1: this role in their respect. Lenora May was in and
Speaker 1: she was in an episode of Little House on the Prairie,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite shows ever that Brad
Speaker 1: Ucobean freaking worked on. Did you know this? I didn't
Speaker 1: know Brad Brad, who was one of our producers of Scandal,
Speaker 1: was one of the producers on Little House on a Prairie. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he worked on Little House yep. But she did an episode,
Speaker 1: she did an episode of Gray's Um. Lenora May, she's
Speaker 1: a very accomplished actor and she was just wonderful in
Speaker 1: this fucking scene. Yeah, she fucking demolished. And also Harrison's
Speaker 1: Columbus's reaction to her it was so great, so good,
Speaker 1: so real, so h so organic, oh so so good.
Speaker 1: It was so good. So we find that out and
Speaker 1: Olivia is like, you know, lets the record be known
Speaker 1: that she was not drunk. She was an amazing pilot.
Speaker 1: The airplane says that they're at fall. Darren Petty, the
Speaker 1: actor who plays Andrew Mackelson, gets you know, his sort
Speaker 1: of due of like wiping his wife's name clean. Yes,
Speaker 1: And then the quick wrap up of the end of
Speaker 1: the episode is Tony calls in Hall and Tom so
Speaker 1: good to fucking amazing secret Service agents and he's like,
Speaker 1: what do I need to do to get out of here?
Speaker 1: They list this ridiculous shit. He's like, I'll do it
Speaker 1: for this, and it's a hilarious joke line because they're like,
Speaker 1: he's just like forty three, yes, yes, whoa is he
Speaker 1: like George Bush? Yes? Oh no, forty three is George
Speaker 1: Bush Jr? Excuse me, I'm an idiot, George h No.
Speaker 1: I looked it up yesterday. I was like, which one
Speaker 1: is forty three? Um? Then it cuts to Quinn goes
Speaker 1: to Gideon's apartment. He opens up the door, She's crying
Speaker 1: in his arms, and where is Tony going to Olivia's apartment? Right,
Speaker 1: Olivia's apartment and she's on the phone with Stephen as
Speaker 1: she opens the door. And he did fuck the lady
Speaker 1: in the morgue and did cheat on whatever her name, Georgia, Georgia, yeah, Georgia.
Speaker 1: And he says it's Amanda was pregnant, but it was
Speaker 1: not fits his baby. And right there, Olivia opens the
Speaker 1: door and Tony's standing right there. So good. It's so good.
Speaker 1: I mean, the episode is a banger, but this talk
Speaker 1: really quickly. The moment with you and Gideon at the door,
Speaker 1: and that was such a beautiful scene, Katie. Oh you're
Speaker 1: so so good, Like all those emotions that you had
Speaker 1: throughout the episode that the audience has, like it was
Speaker 1: released through you in that scene and it was so
Speaker 1: I got it today. I actually I don't remember if
Speaker 1: I used a tear stick for that scene or not.
Speaker 1: I can't remember. It doesn't matter because it was so
Speaker 1: good and Gideon was so good. He was really good,
Speaker 1: and I, you know, all I was thinking about was like,
Speaker 1: oh fuck, here's where we go into the grilled cheese
Speaker 1: sex scene, which we're good to get you in next
Speaker 1: of the episode, Katie, I'm feeling like we should get
Speaker 1: into tee te tweet tweet tweet tree tweet. Is there
Speaker 1: any Scandal tweets of the time that we should read
Speaker 1: that we feel like are hilarious and need to be mentioned?
Speaker 1: This is great. Tiffany Carter at tiff d car Tom
Speaker 1: on April twenty eight, twenty twelve, wrote fact Kerry Washington
Speaker 1: first African American lead actress and network show since sixties.
Speaker 1: Wow major true ps hashtag major fashion on Scandal ABC. Yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: that shit was true. She at the time, Kerry was
Speaker 1: the first African American leading lady of a network drama
Speaker 1: in thirty seven years. Wow. The last drama was in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight and it was Julia played by Diane Carroll.
Speaker 1: But like since Diane Carroll that there had not been
Speaker 1: an African American leading lady of a drama in thirty
Speaker 1: seven years? How insane is that? And that it was
Speaker 1: successful and that this show lasted so long. You know,
Speaker 1: it's such a such a wonderful thing. It had to
Speaker 1: be successful. I mean the problem because sliding doors. Had
Speaker 1: Scandal not been successful, there would have never been another
Speaker 1: black leading lady again, like for a long time, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They would have been like, well,
Speaker 1: clearly that didn't work, so we're not going to take
Speaker 1: that risk again. Whoever the they is Yea, but thank
Speaker 1: god everyone is amazing and watch the show because then
Speaker 1: after Carrie, it was like it opened up so many
Speaker 1: doors to like, yeah, they're being all different looking types
Speaker 1: of people as leads of network shows. Yeah, okay. Matt Midovich,
Speaker 1: who was a very huge supporter of Scandal for so
Speaker 1: long at Matt Minovich on April twenty six tweeted reminder,
Speaker 1: tonight at about nine fifty five is when Scandal's scandalousness
Speaker 1: spikes for consecutive weeks straight through to the finale. So yes,
Speaker 1: I guess we were like gaining some traction. I guess
Speaker 1: like four people were watching the show, right, Jersey fam
Speaker 1: that's it, she says, Oh my god, Scandal ABC was
Speaker 1: straight crazy. Kerry Washington, you better act, you better act
Speaker 1: boo hashtag scandal U. Heck yeah, Lego, what the hell
Speaker 1: is that mean? Franklin? Oh, Lego, I'm an idiot, But
Speaker 1: you learned something new every day. I think I think
Speaker 1: it's like that, right, I think it's like let's go
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, they wrote sp Franklin wrote
Speaker 1: at Scandal ABC, heck, yeah, let go. I'm ready to
Speaker 1: gladiate or whatever, which was Quinn's line. Hashtag Scandal quotes. L.
Speaker 1: Dave Nett wrote, replying to Josh Melina, Josh Malina, you, sir,
Speaker 1: or the glue that holds Scandal ABC together. Also, you've
Speaker 1: left sticky fingerprints all over my TV. Please stop? Yeah
Speaker 1: the person are they friends? I don't know like what
Speaker 1: you mean. Like when he put peanut butter on on
Speaker 1: Porschrossi's like car handle. He put fucking whip cream and
Speaker 1: shaving cream all over my trailer doors, all over my
Speaker 1: car door handles. Oh yeah, he put that shit over
Speaker 1: my card handles. We have to do a whole episode
Speaker 1: of the ship that Josh pulled. He called me, Yeah
Speaker 1: he did. What do you say? Well, he called me,
Speaker 1: changed his voice and left me a message on my
Speaker 1: voicemail saying he was a New York City police detective
Speaker 1: and that I was in big trouble and Katie that
Speaker 1: whole day, me being so anxious. I was unemotional mask
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh my god, what have I done?
Speaker 1: Malina got a voice changer app on his phone that
Speaker 1: he could leave voicemails, and it didn't sound like him.
Speaker 1: He a voicemail that said, we've got your phone number
Speaker 1: and we heard some scoop on Scandal about someone's behavior.
Speaker 1: You need to call immediately. And I was shitting bricks
Speaker 1: because how did a reporter get my cell phone number? Like,
Speaker 1: and I've never been on a show that's successful, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say, and am I supposed
Speaker 1: to call my back? And I don't even have a publicist.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do when we have josh On, We're gonna
Speaker 1: go real hard. We're gonna talk about all this stuff.
Speaker 1: How yeah pranking he did? Those are some tweets at
Speaker 1: the time. This has been such an amazing episode of
Speaker 1: Scandal rewatch us because it ended up with tears and
Speaker 1: praise and Garmo Diez just doing the most incredible dramaturgical
Speaker 1: researcher work on every guest star on this Scandal show,
Speaker 1: and they are so appreciative, and I am so appreciative
Speaker 1: of the work you've done. Oh please Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is again. I can't I can't imagine doing this
Speaker 1: with anyone else but you, like, it's truly a gift
Speaker 1: that we get to do this. You guys, please tell
Speaker 1: your friends that this is a fucking laugh. You feel
Speaker 1: all the feelings, all the gladiators. You have a place
Speaker 1: to come now, Like Gladiators, where have you been? Have
Speaker 1: you've been up to? Listen to this podcast? Tell all
Speaker 1: your gladiator friends rewatch the show. Next week we are
Speaker 1: going to be talking about episode one oh six, the Trail,
Speaker 1: which is literally one of the most famous Scandal episodes
Speaker 1: of all time. So good, so so good. Make sure
Speaker 1: you subscribe. Tell your friends episode one or six The
Speaker 1: Trail is coming. And thank you so much for listening.
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