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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolboxes, a production of Shondoland Audio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. Yes, I am so full and I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I love it. My son's school this morning

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Speaker 1: has something called the Feast, where every single parent brings

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Speaker 1: in a dish, right, and then the kids all sit

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Speaker 1: at long tables and basically we go around and serve

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Speaker 1: the children and they practice saying like yes please or

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Speaker 1: no thank you? Oh nice? Okay. So the food is

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Speaker 1: like all for the kids, and I was like, whatever,

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Speaker 1: it's like eleven am I fucking made a plate? Cranberry stuffing,

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Speaker 1: sweet potato pie, whipped cream, corn souflay, green bean sou flay.

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Speaker 1: Is it a souflay corn? No? No? And one of

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Speaker 1: the kids thought it would be delicious if the corn

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Speaker 1: bread souflay thing had colored sprinkles off. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll lead that too. I mean, what am I thinking?

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Speaker 1: It is a Friday, We've got work to do, We've

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Speaker 1: got a podcast to record. And I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I got that on lock. It was not bad, but

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Speaker 1: I definitely feel very tight in my pants. What did

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Speaker 1: you make? What did you make for the kids? I

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Speaker 1: lied to everybody. You picked that shit up at Bristol Farms.

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Speaker 1: Its way too expensive. I ordered. I signed up. Well,

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Speaker 1: first everyone just thinks we're gonna bring shabby pretzels. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we did that last year. And Adam was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not bringing shabby pretzels. That's like hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 1: of dollars, Like, we're not doing that. And so I

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Speaker 1: ordered all those Caesar My son loves Caesar salads, and

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Speaker 1: no one had signed her salads. Ca salads so dumb.

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Speaker 1: But I picked up. I just literally got caesar salad

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Speaker 1: mixing bags, dumped it into both. But then I we're like,

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Speaker 1: I made a sesar, what did you make? And I

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Speaker 1: was like, well, I made the caesar salad, but I

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Speaker 1: made the dressing from scratch and I grew the lettuce

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Speaker 1: in my yard. You're such a liar. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're a bunch of Scandal fans and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be like that bitch actually be like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that's the mom who has it all. She's got the

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Speaker 1: Scandal Rewatch podcast, she's got Katie's crib, she's an acting career,

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Speaker 1: and she fucking grows lettuce and looks amazing. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, and don't you fucking forget it? Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: But when they hear this podcast again that I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: come over my auser replate and they're gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: where are you're raised farmer's boxes in your yard or

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Speaker 1: cultivate a full garden? And I'm like, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how to make a goddamn thing. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 1: can we just talk about and then we should we'll

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Speaker 1: do an indro, But can you tell all of our

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Speaker 1: listeners what lunch you packed every day at Scandal for

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Speaker 1: like a lot of time? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: we mentioned it a little bit in one of the

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Speaker 1: one of the episodes. It was I'm obsessed with canned beats,

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Speaker 1: canned beats and green beans, and I would put I mean,

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Speaker 1: I put like a can of each in you know

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Speaker 1: And that's like I was having beats earlier today, Like

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Speaker 1: this morning, I had breakfast and I had it. Is

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Speaker 1: your poop just like red No, because our toilets are black,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can't see what's going on. I can.

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Speaker 1: So part of me is like, am I dying? Like

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Speaker 1: the bood in my school? Is the blood in my

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Speaker 1: I know, I can't. We got black toilets, like I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's see like a black toilet is fucking I get it.

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Speaker 1: A black toilet is there's something that feels naughty and

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Speaker 1: sexy about it. I like it. But I also take

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Speaker 1: I take a big responsibility in like taking a poop

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Speaker 1: and then looking at it to see how I'm doing,

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Speaker 1: Like have I had enough greens like you're supposed to

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Speaker 1: us to be. In the olden days, there was like

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Speaker 1: poopa mater, Yes, kings and shit In England, there was

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Speaker 1: someone's job who the king would take a dunch in

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Speaker 1: sure that their digestion was like, yeah, it was well.

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Speaker 1: this is the greatest podcast episode anyone has ever been

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Speaker 1: interested in. It all started with beats. Germo used to

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Speaker 1: those lemon baggies that when you squeeze it it catches

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Speaker 1: some cut up tofu and just like deliciousness. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: eat like that all the time. Oh hell yeah. And

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Speaker 1: she loves it too. She's so good at its stuff

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Speaker 1: flashback episodes, when Abby you see her in the past,

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Speaker 1: of that. Oh. Absolutely, she's a very good cook. She's

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Speaker 1: like I would be. That is not my thing. During

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Speaker 1: teaching how to cut grapefruits up, like in different different ways,

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Speaker 1: most mesmerizing thing I'd ever seen. I was like mesmerizing

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Speaker 1: and her laugh breakdown. Yes, yes, videos, she's the most infectious.

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Speaker 1: imagine walking through life as Darby with that fire engine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: some very cool trench coat. Yeah. Today's episode of the

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Speaker 1: Scandal Rewatch podcast. We're talking about episode one oh five,

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Speaker 1: called Crash and Burn, which aired on April twenty six

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Speaker 1: and twenty and twelve. It was written by Mark Wilding

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Speaker 1: and directed by Steve Robin. It was guest starring Brendan

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Speaker 1: we got to this place again. Are you going to

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Speaker 1: do the synopsis or shoulmiji, let's see. Let's see what

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Speaker 1: see synopsis. Olivia and her team helped defend the pilot

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Speaker 1: When a Mandatanner goes missing, Hawk must call upon his

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Speaker 1: for help. Very nice, yo, can I just say how

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Speaker 1: special this episode is. I mean, there were so many emotions.

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Speaker 1: I cried like a bunch of times watching this episode,

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Speaker 1: super emotional about it because it made me. It made

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Speaker 1: that opening scene when we're all in in Olivia's apartment

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Speaker 1: and every single one of us it's like music, Like

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Speaker 1: you had said before on this podcast, like everyone's interjecting

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Speaker 1: and you say, there's a guy watching you. Her trash

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Speaker 1: my god, me either. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: the fucking best. Yeah. So we know that she's gone missing.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny? Wow, I have a I feel

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Speaker 1: like Roxanne Dawson was around in this episode. I remember her.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, well, we'll talk about it. But in

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Speaker 1: I remember coming on the plane crash, Harrison and Quinn

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Speaker 1: like that's so crazy. Yeah, why did she never visit?

422
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: Set right between the whole thing of like listening to

423
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: the black Box over and over again, figuring it out,

424
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: and then doesn't Harrison look at us. We're at the

425
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 1: coffee station and he shouts like, it wasn't the plane,

426
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: it wasn't it, And his eyes are all red and

427
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: you could tell, you know, I feel like Harrison had

428
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: read makeup put on his eyes. Plus his eyes looked insane.

429
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, hey hadn't slept because he's just

430
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: like listening and listening and listening and trying to decode

431
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: what's in this and then he yells at them and

432
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: says something like, I don't remember when we learned that

433
00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: Laurie wasn't drinking right again, all these guest stars, coast stars,

434
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: their performances, they're fucking ridiculous. So good, dirtess that was

435
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: too drunk on her birthday and stand in and then

436
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: she goes and visits her in the hotel room and

437
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: she's like, doesn't even know that everyone had gone down?

438
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: So good? So good? The yeah, yeah, the one that

439
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: was hung over. Yes, it was so good. She played

440
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: Carly Reston and her name her, her actually actress's name

441
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: is Amanda Fuller, and fucking Google, I sure did, Katie,

442
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: because because of what you were just saying, she's so

443
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: good that I was like, we have to give this

444
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: actor a shout out. Her name is Amanda Fuller, and

445
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: she's yeah, she's been in a ton of stuff. She

446
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: was in a Graze episode. She played Brittany Murphy in

447
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: a TV movie about Brittany Murphy. Remember the amazing Brittany Murphy.

448
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 1: She fucking killed that. But that this actress fucking just

449
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: brought it. No, she was unbelievable. She's hysterical crying, she's

450
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: funny at the top, just opened the door and be

451
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: like what And then she has to go into this

452
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: whole thing where she realized she just missed death. Darby

453
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: is so good in this scene too, because you could

454
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: see how cold she is and she's like, she doesn't

455
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: know how to deal with someone being emotional. So she

456
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: pushes the tissue box forward. Yes, and then she keeps crying.

457
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: Then she pushes it forward again, like, oh my god,

458
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: that's so class. She's not comforting at all. Yeah. Was

459
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: that written in the stage directions or is that Darby

460
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: just making genius acting choices. I want to say it

461
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: was Darby making genius acting choices. I want to say

462
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: that too, so so good, Like she did not know

463
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: how to comfort this what the character did not know

464
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: how to comfort someone that's breaking down like that. It

465
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: was just so fun to watch to watch her work.

466
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: We're back in the OPA office, comes in and says

467
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: and screams, Amanda Tanner is dead. Oh yeah, god, I

468
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: remember getting chills doing that scene. Oh that was one

469
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: of my favorite. You know how you have scenes that

470
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: it just feels so good to do and they stick

471
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: with you. I just remember that moment. What were our

472
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: lines leading up to it? We were all like, I

473
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: just remember, We're running around in a fury and Olivia's

474
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: giving up fucking orders like you go this, and you

475
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: go this, and you go this, and and then you're

476
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: just like you yell, which Huck never does. Yeah, everyone's

477
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: caught up because I don't know if we mentioned it,

478
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: but a plane and a plane crashes in the episode

479
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: and it kills one hundred and twenty people, and then

480
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: Olivia now represents the pilots union, right, and she expects

481
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: the airline is going to blame Lorie the pilot, which

482
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: they do. I thought we were all like running around

483
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: talking about like how to find Amanda or something, and

484
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: then you just come Amanda Tanner's dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

485
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was something like that, Yeah,

486
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: you record stop the whole scene and Olivia looks at

487
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: you and she's like, are you sure. I just shake

488
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: my head yes, and then she oh, and then that's

489
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: my favorite fucking Carrie Washington moment. Acting. Yeah, I have

490
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: the same taste. When she marches out to the street

491
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: to the black Dan that's been fucking watching it, and

492
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: she's like, roll down your fucking window on the windfield.

493
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Tell your guy that I know, I know, yeah, talking

494
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: to your little microphoning your brands and you tell him

495
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: that I know. Yeah. When I see her do that scene,

496
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: I feel like she is summoning her bronx, her like roots,

497
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: like her bronx, Like this is how I talk to

498
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: someone when I am like in my most power and

499
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm so pissed and I've been so wrong. Absolutely it's remarkable.

500
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: And then she turns away from screaming at the two

501
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: dudes and the sus Dan, and the whole shot goes

502
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: into slow mo and she she like rubs her arms yes,

503
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: which is so just that little moment, Oh god, oh

504
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: my god, it's unfucking believable. So we know she's dead,

505
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: which is horrible and stupid ass. Quinn Fergus Yeah, makes

506
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: a promise, finds Amanda Tanner's dad, brings him to the

507
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: office and said everything's going to be okay, I promise,

508
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: to which Olivia is like, Quinn, can I speak to

509
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: you for a minute at the coffee station? And then

510
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, what and She's like we don't make promises.

511
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah ever, and I'm like, what are you talking about?

512
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: And she's like, Amanda Tanner is dead and I was

513
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: like what I was not mouth agape there, I gave

514
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: you other options. Nope, just real quickly. In this scene,

515
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: we are introduced to uh to Hank tan Or Hank

516
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: tan Or, who is Amanda Tanner's dad, and it's played

517
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: by Graham Beckel. Now let me tell you something. I

518
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: went down a rabbit hole googling Homeboy because I was like,

519
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: I do that with all the co stars because it's

520
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: so fun to see what they've been in. So Graham

521
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: Beckel was in fucking Broke Back Mountain. He plays Anne

522
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: Hathaway's dad in that fucking amazing scene when they're having

523
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: thanks Giving dinner and Hathaway and Jake Jillenhall they have

524
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: the TV playing and their little son is like watching

525
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: the TV and the mother's like, um, you eat your food,

526
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: stop watching TV. And Jake Jillenhall goes and turns off

527
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: the TV and the dad gets up and he's like,

528
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: turns it back on. Anyway. It's a back and forth,

529
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: but it's such a powerful scene and this man played

530
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: and Hathaway's dad. Wow, I would have never known that.

531
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: How great is he in this episode? Like he's he's

532
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: that's heartbreaking, heartbreaking and what a hard yes, like let's

533
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: come in, let's meet you, and let's have you be

534
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: here on the worst day of your character's life, like yes,

535
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: seeing your daughter's fucking body like this guy is. He's

536
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: just so vulnerable in this episode and he's so sad

537
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: and to see this like grown masculine ass man like

538
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: breaking down. He's he was again perfect fucking casting. We'll

539
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: get and we Katie. I was wondering, we'll get to it,

540
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: but this episode, like you, I don't even have to

541
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: say it, right, Oh, I remember it forever forever you

542
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: and I I have goose. Yeah. I think that's why

543
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: I cried so much watching the episode, because I was

544
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: remembering that and oh it was just such a yeah,

545
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: but we'll get to it. Oh my god, Garmo and I,

546
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: well you have to get there. We're gonna get to

547
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: that scene really soon. Yeah, Okay, okay, okay. Olivia calls

548
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: fits he didn't know, he didn't know that she's dead. Yes,

549
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: they do like a split screen down the center with

550
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: like you know where they split the screen in two

551
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: and there's like a black bar between their phone call,

552
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: and Olivia is the first person to tell Fits that

553
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: Amanda Tanner's dead, and he's like, come, look me in

554
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: the eye. You know I'm telling the truth. It's not

555
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: something I would ever fucking do. And she says, yeah,

556
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: but you let Cyrus off his leash. You know, if

557
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: a dog mall is a baby, it's the owner's fault,

558
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: and you know that's on you. Yeah, she said, he's

559
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: a he's a pit bull. You let your you let

560
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: your dog off the leash. Yeah. Oh, it's such a

561
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: great scene. Yeah, it is such a fucking great scene.

562
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: I wrote, I wrote come off split screen in my notes,

563
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: and then I wrote very Brian to Palma, because Brian

564
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: to Palma does add a lot in his movies. He

565
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: does split screen. Yeah, oh, such a powerful scene. Yeah.

566
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: Then I wrote, they do right by the pilot and

567
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: they have an alibi that she wasn't drinking. Then we

568
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: go into Olivia asks, oh, this was my title whoa

569
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: g acting? Oh man, which is basically for the scene

570
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: where Olivia comes into your office and says, I need

571
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: you to help me find the body. Yeah, and if

572
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: you need me to come get you, you know, just

573
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 1: call or something like that, and we're like, what what

574
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: is this? What is happening? These scenes with a Huck

575
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: and Olivia were always so so special because there was

576
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: just that unspoken like action with those two, right. The

577
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: room was so full of emotions and like just stuff

578
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: when we would do those scenes, and it was so

579
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: easy to play, but it was exhilarating to play these

580
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: scenes with carry. It was so much fun. And in

581
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: this episode, I think it's the first time and it's

582
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: the first time you see Huck torture someone, but it's

583
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: the first time that I thought, oh my god, this

584
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: is this is going to a really dark place with

585
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: my character, you know, and I freaking loved it. I

586
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 1: was like, this is the thing that's ever happened to

587
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: me in my life as an actor. Oh it was.

588
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: I felt so so it was so great. But it's true.

589
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: It's they asked of you. Like what they asked of

590
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: you was so fucking wild, and you went there so beautifully.

591
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: And I wrote, I wrote, um, whoa gez acting whoa

592
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: in that scene? Um, Not to get too deep, but

593
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: a person, like a person that's been through a lot

594
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: of shit. I mean, we've all been through a lot

595
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: of know, but this is like a gift to be

596
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: able to to you know, slice yourself. I just Sally

597
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: Field said this once in an interview. They were like,

598
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: how do you prepare for those emotional scenes? And she said,

599
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: I start symbolically sort of slicing myself open emotionally and

600
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: opening up all those old wounds and scars and shit

601
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: that happened to you. And I'm super like, if somebody

602
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: walks in the room and they're going through a really

603
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: hard time, my eye goes right to them and my

604
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: heart opens up, and I'm like, I can't like settle

605
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: and I can't really have a good time if I

606
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: see someone that's going through something. Yes, yes, an EmPATH anyway,

607
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: So it was a gift to be able to play

608
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: this this character and I just use that shit, you

609
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You can like go there and

610
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: you feel like you're not allowed to do that in

611
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: your day to day life. So to like get to

612
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: be able, you know, some people would like scream at

613
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: a steering wheel or like sob cry in a shower. Yeah,

614
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: and most people probably don't even let themselves do that.

615
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: And then it's so awesome when you're an actor that

616
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: you get to just like do this stuff, yeah yourself,

617
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: go like go to a really dark place, go to

618
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: like a really scary emotional place, and it's okay because

619
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: you were in a safe environment. It was also exciting

620
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: and not knowing what was going to happen when I

621
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: was doing the scene, like emotionally, do you know what

622
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: I mean? That was so exciting to be like, this

623
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: is so fucked up. I don't know exactly what's going

624
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: to happen, if I'm gonna cry or whatever, what I'm

625
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: gonna feel and do anyway, Okay, Then I wrote, oh

626
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: my god, he has Charlie on the tarp, red tool

627
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: Huck gets his red toolbox about eight thousand exclamation points,

628
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: and I wrote red toolbox multiple times. This is this

629
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: is the first time we see the toolbox, which is

630
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: so funny because our podcast is called Unpacking the Toolbox. Yes,

631
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: I'm packing the toolbox. Baby. Did you ever know that

632
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: this was going to be his thing? No? Not at all,

633
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: Not at all. I knew when we you know, when

634
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: we got the episode at the table read or the

635
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: day before whatever, But before that, no, I had I

636
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: had no idea but again, I freaking loved it. I

637
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: was like, God, he's gonna fucking torture someone with all

638
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: these tools in his toolbox. How did you make George

639
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: Newburn feel safe? Because I didn't know him very well,

640
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: but I remember him being like, I can't believe I'm

641
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: doing this job. I have one scene, you know where

642
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: I have like talking with Gamo Diaz in a diner

643
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: and then I'm like naked. He was like in a

644
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: duct tape underwear on a tarp where I just have

645
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: to scream a lot. And I was like, yeah, like

646
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't know for like an older dude who has

647
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: a very successful career, like I don't know, Yeah, you

648
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: would think of that job. What was it like on

649
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: the day? Were you very collaborative? Were you nervous? Was

650
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: he nervous? I think we were both nervous. I was

651
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: super nervous, but an excited nervous, you know what I mean,

652
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: because because the scene was so good. But I think

653
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: the thing with me and George, we as people and

654
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: as the characters, we clicked right away, like it felt right.

655
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: You know how Sometimes that happens on a movie or

656
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: a TV show where you're like, oh, this just and

657
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: and I think that was the case with all the

658
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: regulars on Scandal. Something about this cast just it was

659
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: just right. It just made sense, you know what I mean.

660
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: And when Charlie came into picture, it made sense. And

661
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: how can Charlie it just click with him? It was

662
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: it was so easy to do these scenes with him

663
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: because it just it just felt right. And I and

664
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: also me and George I crack up a lot. We

665
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: love to laugh, as you know, because you love to

666
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: laugh with us two. You well, the three of us

667
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: two were together a lot over the seven years. Yeah.

668
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: And you what's so funny about you two seeing you

669
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: do these scenes with him? You're both two of the

670
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: funniest dudes, I know, two of the most sweetest in

671
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: your hearts like people, I know, like like really genuinely

672
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: like want good things for people. And then to just

673
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: watch this episode and see him fucking screaming his head

674
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: off while you're doing yea horribuying fucking things to him,

675
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: Like I get, he's drilling holes into him. Yeah, it's horrible.

676
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: Is that what you were doing? It was drilling holes? Yeah, yeah,

677
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: he's he's drilling holes in his body. Yeah, Oh my god,

678
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding me. That's disgusting all because he

679
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: won't tell you where the Amanitata body. Yeah, I'm just

680
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: asking where her body is and he won't tell me.

681
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: But look in my notes, I wrote, um to film

682
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: this was frightening, exhilarating, anxiety inducing. I also wrote it

683
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: felt like it felt like an orgasm. I was in

684
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: a trance doing doing this scene. Holy shit. And and

685
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: then I wrote if if it's like chanting, you know

686
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: when you chant and you just get in a sort

687
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: of trance. Saying the words that Shanda wrote and that

688
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 1: the Scandal writers wrote, feels like chanting because it's again,

689
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. It it's so well written,

690
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: and it just flows out of your mouth so well.

691
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: I felt like that happened a lot doing a huck

692
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: scenes because I felt like I would go in a

693
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: trance because sometimes, you know, you get caught up like fuck,

694
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: am I going to remember the lines? And then I'm

695
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: sure you do this too, or you thought about this,

696
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: but it gets to the point where they're rolling and

697
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, action you In my head, I think,

698
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: all right, let me see if I remember my lines

699
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: and just let the words come out and you're and

700
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: you have to say them super fast, so part of

701
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: you just has to like relinquish control and just whatever

702
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: happens happens or whatever comes out comes out when all

703
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: the words come out. Right, Oh, it's just it's it's

704
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: it's best feeling. Yeah, that aha moment or whatever. That

705
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: like you're in the flow, Like you're in that human

706
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: heightened high vibrational flow where you're like, so, yes, there

707
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: is no time, there is no then or future. You're

708
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: just like really heightened connective tissue right then and there.

709
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: But I think that makes a lot of sense to

710
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 1: the transpart because I do think sometimes Huck, the way

711
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: you'll you sound when you're like doing some of those

712
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: scenes as you're like it almost sounds like you're chanting.

713
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: I've never even thought about that until this moment, but

714
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: it's sort of oh my god that I could barely

715
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: watch it. I was like completely terrified. Yeah, okay, then

716
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: we have I put a shitload of exclamation points for

717
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: Sally Langston. First, yes, yes, all in the White House.

718
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: He's trying to pass the Dream Act, which is similar

719
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: to like DACA, isn't it yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah,

720
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: fits wants and knows that this is the right thing

721
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: to do to be passed. And Sally Langston is holding

722
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: up all the votes and not letting it happen, and

723
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: fits has the most like amazing monologue to her about

724
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: like ha ha, yeah, yeah, fuck you, you're gonna put

725
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: the dream act through. Yes, And Sally Langston is so

726
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: wonderful And fans must have gone so crazy because that's

727
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: Merit Gray's mom from Grey's Anatomy. Yes, kay, well, listen,

728
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: can we talk about Kate Burton. What a fucking dope

729
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: person she is. She is like, oh so lovely, so kind,

730
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: so loving, the nicest freaking person. And I love seeing

731
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: really find like nice, genuinely happy people play these asshole characters.

732
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: She does it so so well. Also, Kate Burton, which

733
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: again I went on a googling thing and I knew

734
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: this already, but Kate Burton is the daughter of Richard Burton,

735
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: who used to be married to Elizabeth Taylor Is. She's

736
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: a daughter Richard Burton and Sybil Williams, who was a

737
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: Welsh actress. And I just think it was amazing that

738
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: on Scandal we had our president and vice president were

739
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: Hollywood royalty, because we had Tony Goldwyn of Goldwyn Metro

740
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: Mayer and his whole dynasty of like MGM. And then

741
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: we had Sally Langston played by Kate Burton, who is

742
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: Richard Burton's daughter. Like we had like two Hollywood lineage

743
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: of like I mean, they have debt, their their their

744
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Hollywood royalty. It's been their blood, yea, their blood. It's

745
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: why they can walk around and sort of be like

746
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm the president and I'm vice president or whatever. But

747
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: my god, Sally Langston again, in this episode, you get

748
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: your first glimpse at Sally Lankson. You get your first

749
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: glimpse at Charlie. Two people who were with us till

750
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: the end and who were in countless eight billion episodes

751
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: and we're such geniuses on the show. Yes, and then

752
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: we pull I remember this like it was yesterday. We

753
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: pull Amanda Tanner out of the Potomac. Yes. We shot

754
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: it in Long Beach? Do you remember that? Wasn't it

755
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Long Beach? We shot it in Long Beach? And I

756
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: was so nervous because Scandal ABC or something was like

757
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: making me go around at the same time and like

758
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: interviewing you people, do you remember that? And we were

759
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: pissed you were kind of pissed because it's such an emotional,

760
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: you know scene, and like, yeah, I was like, oh

761
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: my god, I'm watching a mandatanner being pulled out of

762
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: the Potomac and instead I'm going around They've asked me

763
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: to go around with my cell phone and being like,

764
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: what do you like about scanned them? Like, obviously that

765
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: shit is important because the show was in no way

766
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: shape form a hit in season one, and we were

767
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: doing whatever we could on the social media fucking channels

768
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: to get anyone to watch our show. I feel like

769
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: that was the hardest thing on the show, was navigating

770
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: doing press stuff and being able to stay focused on

771
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: our work on the show, you know what I mean,

772
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: because that would get thrown at us all the time,

773
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: where it was like they would come on set and

774
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: we have to do epks, which is a electronic press

775
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: kit and you do all these interviews and but that

776
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: would happen all the time. But navigating that my first day,

777
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: I remember it like, oh my god, Manatanna is being

778
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: pulled out. We're all so upset. We didn't even know

779
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: death was like a thing on the show. Really yeah,

780
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: And I'm going around being like, can you tell us

781
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: what you think about scales all And I'm like, oh

782
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: my god, this is I actually have the video still

783
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: in my phone and when we put out this episode,

784
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to put that on so everyone can know

785
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Oh hell yeah. And then we

786
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: go to the morgue. Oh man, Katie and that is

787
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: me and Garmo were like best friends for life. After

788
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: that we bonded. I feel like that was our first

789
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: like bonding moment where we truly bonded as as you know,

790
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: as Katie and Giarmo. Like, I don't know what the

791
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: fuck happened. Maybe it was because we were shooting the

792
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: scene where you know, Amanda's dad is at the Morgan

793
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: he has to identify her body, and it was already

794
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: a super emotional, like somber ominous sort of feeling on

795
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: said and and somehow like what do you what do

796
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: you remember? We talked about this on previous episodes, where

797
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: like sometimes the tears are there and sometimes they're not,

798
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: And this was one of these days where for some reason,

799
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: like in the universe, Giermo and I were just like

800
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: a well of emotion and tears and feelings and we

801
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: were standing at that window looking into the morguet a

802
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: Manda's body, and I couldn't stop crying, and I just

803
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: feeling the feelings of the show. And I had lost

804
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: I was kept you know, things kept coming into my head.

805
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: And I had lost a friend who had died of

806
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: lung cancer right when I auditioned for the part, and she,

807
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: for some reason was just like her spirit was like

808
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: very present in the room for me. I remember you

809
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: telling me that story. Yeah, instead of running away from it,

810
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: I was really singing into it, and I was really emotional,

811
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: and it was one of these days where it's like

812
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: we had the opportunity to really just like feel it

813
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: and gear right there with me. Yeah. I remember me

814
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: and you stepping like away from everyone. We were in

815
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: the back of the set and we were talking about

816
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: all this stuff and we couldn't stop crying. And I

817
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: remember you telling me now that you guys all, I

818
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: don't know if you still do it go on a

819
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: high every year every year on her death. Yeah, every

820
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: year on her death. That day sticks so strongly in

821
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: my memory, and it's so special. I do like I've

822
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: never had an experience like that with with someone. It

823
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: was so special, It was so oh Katie and I

824
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: wrote down no tears stick here. We talked about we

825
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: didn't need that sea. Yeah, sometimes you need that tears,

826
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: so we didn't need that mental blood. Oh no, we

827
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: didn't need it. We had tears for fucking days. We'll

828
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: be back soon, guys. Oh, this part really quick. Olivia

829
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: goes to touch Hawk at that same scene, and you

830
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: like quickly jerk yourself away, and we realize that recoil. Yeah,

831
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: that it has taken a toll. It has you. You

832
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: getting Charlie on the tarp took its toll. Yeah, um,

833
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: I wrote, Amanda dead. We're crying. We were crying so

834
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: much when we shot that. Do you remember Giarmo, I wrote,

835
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: do you remember Katie? Oh my god, look, I said,

836
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: I wrote, look Katie, exclamation point. Remember our special emotional

837
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: time while filming at the Coroners. We couldn't stop crying.

838
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: We truly bonded in this episode. No tears stick here,

839
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are okay? Then Darren Petty crying for

840
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: his wife. Finally they get to the bottom of it

841
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: that like it was this horror fucking ladies fault about

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Speaker 1: the plane. She made it to her daughter's recital and

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Speaker 1: she decided to just duplicate right for when the plane

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Speaker 1: was broken and she sends it up the ladder end.

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Speaker 1: The plane was broken, but it was her fault for

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Speaker 1: not filing it correctly. And yes, she's they're they're underpaid

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Speaker 1: and overworked and normally her job used to be two

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Speaker 1: people's jobs. And she's amazing in that scene. Can we

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Speaker 1: just give a shout out to Leonore May is the

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Speaker 1: actress who played that role. My God, Yes, yes, I

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Speaker 1: am going to make out with you again, okay. Cast

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Speaker 1: be known as the Scandal rewatch podcast where every fucking

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Speaker 1: actor gets their fucking, fucking Yes, Leonora May amazing in

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Speaker 1: this role in their respect. Lenora May was in and

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Speaker 1: she was in an episode of Little House on the Prairie,

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Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite shows ever that Brad

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Speaker 1: Ucobean freaking worked on. Did you know this? I didn't

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Speaker 1: know Brad Brad, who was one of our producers of Scandal,

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Speaker 1: was one of the producers on Little House on a Prairie. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: he worked on Little House yep. But she did an episode,

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Speaker 1: she did an episode of Gray's Um. Lenora May, she's

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Speaker 1: a very accomplished actor and she was just wonderful in

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Speaker 1: this fucking scene. Yeah, she fucking demolished. And also Harrison's

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Speaker 1: Columbus's reaction to her it was so great, so good,

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Speaker 1: so real, so h so organic, oh so so good.

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Speaker 1: It was so good. So we find that out and

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Speaker 1: Olivia is like, you know, lets the record be known

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Speaker 1: that she was not drunk. She was an amazing pilot.

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Speaker 1: The airplane says that they're at fall. Darren Petty, the

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Speaker 1: actor who plays Andrew Mackelson, gets you know, his sort

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Speaker 1: of due of like wiping his wife's name clean. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And then the quick wrap up of the end of

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Speaker 1: the episode is Tony calls in Hall and Tom so

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Speaker 1: good to fucking amazing secret Service agents and he's like,

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Speaker 1: what do I need to do to get out of here?

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Speaker 1: They list this ridiculous shit. He's like, I'll do it

877
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Speaker 1: for this, and it's a hilarious joke line because they're like,

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Speaker 1: he's just like forty three, yes, yes, whoa is he

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Speaker 1: like George Bush? Yes? Oh no, forty three is George

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Speaker 1: Bush Jr? Excuse me, I'm an idiot, George h No.

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Speaker 1: I looked it up yesterday. I was like, which one

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Speaker 1: is forty three? Um? Then it cuts to Quinn goes

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Speaker 1: to Gideon's apartment. He opens up the door, She's crying

884
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: in his arms, and where is Tony going to Olivia's apartment? Right,

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Speaker 1: Olivia's apartment and she's on the phone with Stephen as

886
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Speaker 1: she opens the door. And he did fuck the lady

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Speaker 1: in the morgue and did cheat on whatever her name, Georgia, Georgia, yeah, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: And he says it's Amanda was pregnant, but it was

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Speaker 1: not fits his baby. And right there, Olivia opens the

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Speaker 1: door and Tony's standing right there. So good. It's so good.

891
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: I mean, the episode is a banger, but this talk

892
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: really quickly. The moment with you and Gideon at the door,

893
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: and that was such a beautiful scene, Katie. Oh you're

894
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: so so good, Like all those emotions that you had

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Speaker 1: throughout the episode that the audience has, like it was

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Speaker 1: released through you in that scene and it was so

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Speaker 1: I got it today. I actually I don't remember if

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Speaker 1: I used a tear stick for that scene or not.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember. It doesn't matter because it was so

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Speaker 1: good and Gideon was so good. He was really good,

901
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: and I, you know, all I was thinking about was like,

902
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Speaker 1: oh fuck, here's where we go into the grilled cheese

903
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Speaker 1: sex scene, which we're good to get you in next

904
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Speaker 1: of the episode, Katie, I'm feeling like we should get

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Speaker 1: into tee te tweet tweet tweet tree tweet. Is there

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Speaker 1: any Scandal tweets of the time that we should read

907
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Speaker 1: that we feel like are hilarious and need to be mentioned?

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Speaker 1: This is great. Tiffany Carter at tiff d car Tom

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Speaker 1: on April twenty eight, twenty twelve, wrote fact Kerry Washington

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Speaker 1: first African American lead actress and network show since sixties.

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Speaker 1: Wow major true ps hashtag major fashion on Scandal ABC. Yeah, guys,

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Speaker 1: that shit was true. She at the time, Kerry was

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Speaker 1: the first African American leading lady of a network drama

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Speaker 1: in thirty seven years. Wow. The last drama was in

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight and it was Julia played by Diane Carroll.

916
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Speaker 1: But like since Diane Carroll that there had not been

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Speaker 1: an African American leading lady of a drama in thirty

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Speaker 1: seven years? How insane is that? And that it was

919
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: successful and that this show lasted so long. You know,

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00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: it's such a such a wonderful thing. It had to

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Speaker 1: be successful. I mean the problem because sliding doors. Had

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Speaker 1: Scandal not been successful, there would have never been another

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Speaker 1: black leading lady again, like for a long time, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. They would have been like, well,

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Speaker 1: clearly that didn't work, so we're not going to take

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Speaker 1: that risk again. Whoever the they is Yea, but thank

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Speaker 1: god everyone is amazing and watch the show because then

928
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Speaker 1: after Carrie, it was like it opened up so many

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Speaker 1: doors to like, yeah, they're being all different looking types

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Speaker 1: of people as leads of network shows. Yeah, okay. Matt Midovich,

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Speaker 1: who was a very huge supporter of Scandal for so

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Speaker 1: long at Matt Minovich on April twenty six tweeted reminder,

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Speaker 1: tonight at about nine fifty five is when Scandal's scandalousness

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Speaker 1: spikes for consecutive weeks straight through to the finale. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I guess we were like gaining some traction. I guess

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Speaker 1: like four people were watching the show, right, Jersey fam

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Speaker 1: that's it, she says, Oh my god, Scandal ABC was

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Speaker 1: straight crazy. Kerry Washington, you better act, you better act

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Speaker 1: boo hashtag scandal U. Heck yeah, Lego, what the hell

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Speaker 1: is that mean? Franklin? Oh, Lego, I'm an idiot, But

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Speaker 1: you learned something new every day. I think I think

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Speaker 1: it's like that, right, I think it's like let's go

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, they wrote sp Franklin wrote

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Speaker 1: at Scandal ABC, heck, yeah, let go. I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: gladiate or whatever, which was Quinn's line. Hashtag Scandal quotes. L.

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Speaker 1: Dave Nett wrote, replying to Josh Melina, Josh Malina, you, sir,

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Speaker 1: or the glue that holds Scandal ABC together. Also, you've

948
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Speaker 1: left sticky fingerprints all over my TV. Please stop? Yeah

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Speaker 1: the person are they friends? I don't know like what

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Speaker 1: you mean. Like when he put peanut butter on on

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Speaker 1: Porschrossi's like car handle. He put fucking whip cream and

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Speaker 1: shaving cream all over my trailer doors, all over my

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Speaker 1: car door handles. Oh yeah, he put that shit over

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Speaker 1: my card handles. We have to do a whole episode

955
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Speaker 1: of the ship that Josh pulled. He called me, Yeah

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Speaker 1: he did. What do you say? Well, he called me,

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00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: changed his voice and left me a message on my

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Speaker 1: voicemail saying he was a New York City police detective

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Speaker 1: and that I was in big trouble and Katie that

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00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: whole day, me being so anxious. I was unemotional mask

961
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Speaker 1: because I was like, oh my god, what have I done?

962
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: Malina got a voice changer app on his phone that

963
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Speaker 1: he could leave voicemails, and it didn't sound like him.

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Speaker 1: He a voicemail that said, we've got your phone number

965
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: and we heard some scoop on Scandal about someone's behavior.

966
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Speaker 1: You need to call immediately. And I was shitting bricks

967
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Speaker 1: because how did a reporter get my cell phone number? Like,

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Speaker 1: and I've never been on a show that's successful, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say, and am I supposed

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Speaker 1: to call my back? And I don't even have a publicist.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do when we have josh On, We're gonna

972
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Speaker 1: go real hard. We're gonna talk about all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: How yeah pranking he did? Those are some tweets at

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Speaker 1: the time. This has been such an amazing episode of

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Speaker 1: Scandal rewatch us because it ended up with tears and

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Speaker 1: praise and Garmo Diez just doing the most incredible dramaturgical

977
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Speaker 1: researcher work on every guest star on this Scandal show,

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00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: and they are so appreciative, and I am so appreciative

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Speaker 1: of the work you've done. Oh please Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: this is again. I can't I can't imagine doing this

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Speaker 1: with anyone else but you, like, it's truly a gift

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00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: that we get to do this. You guys, please tell

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Speaker 1: your friends that this is a fucking laugh. You feel

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Speaker 1: all the feelings, all the gladiators. You have a place

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Speaker 1: to come now, Like Gladiators, where have you been? Have

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Speaker 1: you've been up to? Listen to this podcast? Tell all

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Speaker 1: your gladiator friends rewatch the show. Next week we are

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Speaker 1: going to be talking about episode one oh six, the Trail,

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Speaker 1: which is literally one of the most famous Scandal episodes

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Speaker 1: of all time. So good, so so good. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you subscribe. Tell your friends episode one or six The

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Speaker 1: Trail is coming. And thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah to the Scan we Watch podcast. Thank you Gladiators.

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Speaker 1: We love you guys. We love you guys so much.

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Speaker 1: If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, share with your friends, rate,

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Speaker 1: or leave us a review. Scandal is executive produced by

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Speaker 1: Sandy Bailey, alex Alcha, Lauren Homan, Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins.

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Speaker 1: Our producer and editor is Vince de Johnny with music

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Speaker 1: by Chad Fisher. Scandal is a production of eight you

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