1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: What's up everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ, Bucky 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: back with you and Uh, Buck Man, it's great to 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: see you got a chance to to get away with 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: the family a little bit and uh and getting plugged 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: back in and it's almost go time. Man. How are 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: you doing? Man, I'm great, I'm great. DJ. Uh Happy 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: fourth of July. Even though it's already fast, but I 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: think the fourth of July signals a big holiday for 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: footballers because it's the final term before we get into 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: training camp. It's the last time for everyone to decompress 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: and get away and it's to ramp up to the 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: season being able to start. Training camp starts at the 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: end of July. As you know. Once it kicks off, man, 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: we don't stop until what the middle of February, not 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: even then. So it's an exciting time because we know 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: the football is on the horizon and no doubt. And 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: we've got a fun show for you today. We're gonna 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: dive into a bunch of different topics. Uh, some big 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: news on the scouting front, some kind of some breaking 21 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: news that will have an impact on personnel, department, So 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: we want to talk about that that just came down. Um, 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: we want to touch on Bucky with your experience at 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: the Elite leven just coming off that where you had 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: some of the top quarterbacks are all the top quarterbacks 26 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: in high school football joined by some of the top 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: college quarterbacks. So we're gonna get your experience, uh, and 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: thoughts on that event. I want do a little crossover 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: conversation something we've both been digging in on from another 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: sport that carries over to football. And then we're gonna 31 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: start digging in and getting ready for training camp with 32 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: some NFC position battles that we're looking forward to, specifically 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: three quarterback competitions and kind of shape those up for 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: everybody see what that's gonna look like. But as we 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: jump in here, Buck East West Shrine Game, which has 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: been in Tampa in Tampa St. Pete area for a 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: long time, used to be in San Francisco, right was 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: in the Bay area for a little bit for a minute, 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: then it was in Florida for a very long time, 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and now it just came out just Gott announced it's 41 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: gonna be the same week as the Pro Bowl, and 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: the game is going to be Thursday night and it's 43 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna take place in Las Vegas, Nevada in the Raiders 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: New Stadium, which gets us to some interesting points with 45 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: some juggling taking place because the Senior Bowl is two 46 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: days after the East West Shrine game. Yeah, it's uh, 47 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna take quite a bit of juggling. It's a 48 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on at one time. I think 49 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: it's great for the East West Shrine just because it 50 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: gives them an opportunity to be center stage on a 51 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: Thursday night. Everyone is going to be looking for stuff 52 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 1: to watch because it's a break between um, the week 53 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, and so it gives you an 54 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to really put more eyes on the prospects of 55 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: the East West Shrine game. You and I have done 56 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: this for years in terms of being on the field 57 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: seeing these guys practice or whatever. It certainly would be 58 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: a challenge when you have the Senior Bowl and all 59 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: that um kind of going. But ay, DJ, this is 60 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: what we do. This is life we chose, so we're 61 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. Yeah, it's interesting to see 62 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: when the NFL p a game, when that's gonna fall, 63 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: um and how that is all gonna work out, But 64 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: a lot of the decision makers like to go spend 65 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of days at each of these 66 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: games if they can. But really, the East West Shrine Game, 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: like you at least a couple of days of practice 68 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: there because traditionally that's you know, that's your fourth fifth 69 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: round type game. You get some some good midround players 70 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: in there. Um. And then the Senior Bowl is is 71 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: kind of the top of the top, and that's where 72 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: you get the premier guys that are going to play 73 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: an all star game, so they have to split your time. 74 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: We'll be interesting to see how that all gets figured out. 75 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know how it goes like uh in 76 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: the past, when those dates have been close together, like 77 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: teams would split their staff. Um, normally your decision makers 78 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: will kind of split in a half half You guys 79 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: would go to the East West Shrine Game didn't make 80 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: their way to the Senior Bowl. I do believe it's 81 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: going to be a challenge because you know, the work 82 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: at both games, but particularly at the Senior Bowl happens 83 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, UH Tuesday Wednesday, at a heavy 84 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: work days on the practice field. You have a walkthrough 85 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: on UH Thursday Friday, and so it's different with the 86 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: East West Shrine playing a game on Thursday. Maybe their 87 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: schedule is a little amended, so maybe they do their 88 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: early work Sunday, Monday, maybe Tuesday, so you can get 89 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: out and get to the Senior Bowl. But it's nice 90 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: to NFL Network has both games, and so we're just 91 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: gonna see how plays out. I'm really interested to see 92 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: if the Rams uh kind of new way of scouting 93 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: that they've kind of jumped in with both feet. Obviously 94 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: every knows about them trading first round picks, but there 95 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: was an article in The Athletic. We've discussed it on 96 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: here before about how they they don't value the in 97 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: person stuff as much. They're gonna be more tape driven 98 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: and data driven based off the numbers than necessarily going 99 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: and being around these kids. Pro days combine All Star games, 100 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: they've they've backed way off that now. I will be 101 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: interested to see if other teams will take that approach 102 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: to some of these All star games where maybe they 103 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: don't send a full staff, maybe it's just a couple 104 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: of guys um and maybe it is more so reliant 105 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: on the practice video that you're gonna get UM if 106 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: you send a couple of people there just to do interviews, 107 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: you could just tape the interviews and everybody could could 108 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: watch those on video, or you could stream them live. 109 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: I guess if you'd like to. But I be curious 110 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: to see if we see some of the impact of 111 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: of the pandemic and teams getting more comfortable doing things 112 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: over zoom and doing things from distance, if we don't 113 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: maybe see that large turnout that we're used to seeing 114 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: at these games. Yeah, did you? I do wonder how 115 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: how it would change the dynamic. I do believe video 116 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: is really critical. The Senior Bowl has done a great 117 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: job of being up on it when it comes to 118 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: the video analysis, and we'll see, hopefully we can get 119 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: the East West run up to part because if that 120 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: video can be circulated to all the teams, it would 121 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: prevent the need UH from teams having to have their 122 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: scouts physically in the building to see some of these workouts. Yes, 123 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: we've always gotten the video from the games, but man, 124 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: if we can get some of the practices, the one 125 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: on ones and not on seven, some of the eleven 126 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: on eleven team drills, that will certainly help us UH 127 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: continue to make those evaluations, because all star evaluations are 128 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: drastically different than any evaluations that we make during the fall. 129 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: But we certainly like to have that piece to the 130 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: palls of to come to do on the full evaluation. Yeah. No, 131 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: it's it's again a little bit of a shift here 132 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: and what's taking place in scouting. And we'll see, you know, 133 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: if that if some of those things carry over. I mean, 134 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: another longer discussion we can have on another day will 135 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: be I'll be interested to see how many times you know, 136 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: we used to have to go out to our A 137 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: schools when we were scouting. You have to go out 138 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: hit those A schools two or three times. I wonder 139 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: now if maybe even that's limited where you say, okay, hey, 140 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: just get in there one time, get the information that 141 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: you can do the other conversations with coaches and and 142 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: liaisons at the school over zoom. There's no reason for 143 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: you to drive, you know, all over God's Green Earth 144 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: to go back in there a second or third time 145 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: when you have all the game tape to be able 146 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: to watch from your house and you can do a 147 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: follow up visit with the coach over a zoom or 148 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, over a phone call. Yeah, you know DJ 149 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: that's wanted to UM. I guess the changes that we 150 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: might see from the COVID situation. UH, last year, guys 151 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: had to do everything pretty much virtual. They had to 152 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: do it from the house. They had to steady the tape, 153 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: they had to put themselves on a schedule, UM and 154 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: and show some some discipline in terms of being able 155 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: to do it that way without being able to go 156 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: physically talk to administrators, coaches and those people on campus 157 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: to get the background info. Now, if you make one visit, 158 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's really necessary to go back 159 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: because I remember back in the day DJ, the second 160 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: time that we would go through, we were change. There's 161 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: a lot of it was just a go through due 162 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: to tape work or whatever. That's why the grind was 163 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: so important early in the process. Get in there in 164 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: August whatever, get all that background stuff done. So now 165 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: the second and third time through was pretty light work. 166 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: You're just catching up on the most recent games. You're 167 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: checking with the trainer. You can't do that anymore, but 168 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: you're trying to get the latest injury information that stuff, 169 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: and then the way you go UM it certainly would change. 170 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: I have to think that the process and talking to Scotts, 171 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: They've talked about the changes, and I think from an 172 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: economical and maybe a work life balance standpoint, you can 173 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: change the way that you go about doing business and 174 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: still get the work done no doubt. Um. I want 175 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: to hit on quick here your experience at the Elite 176 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: eleven after a year where we didn't really have it 177 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: in person, what was the experience like to be back 178 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: this year and tell me a little bit about the group. 179 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: I know this is several years before we have to 180 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: worry about these names, but we do this every year 181 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: and you bring up names that end up being the 182 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrences and the Justin Fields and the Kyler Murray's. Uh. 183 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: You kind of alert us to these guys during the 184 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: high school years, you know. Once Look, the Elite eleving 185 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: had been is great, Like it's a great event. Uh. 186 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: And it's so great because you get a chance to 187 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: see all the names to who's who and the what's 188 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: what guys that you read about and heard about. The 189 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: first part that you have to touch on the college 190 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: counselors coming back um Malique Willis, Sam Howe, Spencer Rattler, 191 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: um D D t R coming over from um C 192 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: l a like being able to see those guys throw it. 193 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: DJ's amazing how much they improve there two three four 194 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: years in college, Malik Willis was a guy who wasn't 195 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: really on the radar, and so from a physical standpoint, 196 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: just seeing him and like being able to put the 197 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: physical evaluation with the tape evaluation and just from a 198 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: physical standpoint, just so impressive. Sam Howell, who I thought 199 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: we've touched on and we'll touch on it in later episodes. 200 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: I think, man, you really described him perfectly when you 201 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: did the Baker Mayfield comparison. He's built in that vein 202 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: maan man. He spends it so effortlessly and easy when 203 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: it comes to putting the ball and the strikes on 204 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: in rhythm and Spencer Rally is one of the more 205 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: talented guys that we were gonna see. Like he's super talented, 206 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: big time arm talent, has a level of confidence that 207 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: he just kind of oozes when he walks in the building. 208 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: And so it's it's a lot. It's a lot to 209 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: see these guys. But I would say the high schoolers, 210 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: ay Man, the the m v p K public public 211 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: going to Clemson, he is the real deal. Ja and 212 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: I think the biggest how big is he tell me 213 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: about what he looks like. Look, man, he's six to 214 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty six pounds, but he won everything 215 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: DJ when I tell you everything, the accuracy throwing the 216 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: ball down the field like he has all of it. 217 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: And the thing that I think about him is he 218 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: is the major league picture who can hit you with 219 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: anything that you want. If you need to come with 220 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: power and fastballs, he can do it. If you want 221 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: to go all speed and throw changeups and sliders, he 222 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: can do that. He does a great job of putting 223 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: the ball wherever it needs to be thrown, really really 224 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: really good. Uh. Devin Brown, who's committed to USC right now, 225 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: was also like a top performer, did a really good 226 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: job of just kind of taking with the defense gave him. 227 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: You can see the arms sound. I like the leadership 228 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: ability that he displayed throughout it. And then I think 229 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: the surprise is like Walker Howard and I know he's 230 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: a five star commute, five star recruit coming out of Lafia, Louisiana, 231 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: six one hundred pounds, but man, he just look right now, 232 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: he is committed to l s U and he would 233 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: give them something that I would say, maybe they hadn't 234 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: He's just a great player. You know who was really 235 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: disappointed the guy who everybody talked about. Come on, hey 236 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: he was on my team. Dj uh. I'll say this, 237 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: he's talented, but he's maybe too casual for my taste, 238 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: like a little too cool for school when it comes 239 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: to doing everything and where a lot of these guys 240 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: took the event as an opportunity to show improve people 241 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: why they were ranked or why they've received as many 242 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: stars if they've received he was kind of like, uh, 243 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I'm just go out here and do 244 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: the thing, and so it it just wasn't a great thing. 245 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: I will say this, though he's super talented. He could 246 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: throw it, he could do all the path my home 247 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: stuff that you want to see. I would just say, 248 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: maybe he didn't pour his heart and soul into with 249 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: it throughout the course of the week, because I would 250 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: think that you would, you would get a better product, 251 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: because I would say, you could argue that he was 252 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: more talented than some of the guys that finished ahead 253 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: of him. But we'll see. You never know, you never 254 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: know the motivation behind hind these things. But I thought 255 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: I would see more from him than I saw. All Right, 256 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: give me one or two high school names, non quarterbacks. 257 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: I know they're all the seven on seven stuff there. 258 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: Because you've always identified a couple of those guys, UM 259 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: that end up going on to be big time dudes. 260 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: I want to say you might even was Jerry Judy. 261 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: I think you were on him from from from this 262 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: event a few years back. But anybody stand out to 263 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: you well, I would say this. I would say, arguably 264 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: the most impressive linebacker that I saw was c. J. Hicks, 265 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: who was going to Ohio State. He was on my team. Man, 266 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: DJ like these new school linebackers that are playing in 267 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: high school them and they're super athletic, great instincts, and 268 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: they all have the ability to be able to play 269 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: the past. C J. Hicks was phenomenal. And he's a 270 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: guy who told me he hadn't played much seven or 271 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: seven because in the state of Ohio they can't they 272 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,599 Speaker 1: can't play UM, and so he was really impressive. I 273 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: would say, uh, mccullo, because there's two mccolor guys um 274 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: son of the former USC running backs coach Sultan McCullough. 275 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 1: Not Sultan oh now right, but his older son that 276 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: plays linebacker DJ. He is exactly what you want. Man. 277 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: He's about six three, he has super long arms. I 278 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: mean he just covers ground. You put him in like 279 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: a Tampa two style defense or his own defense, he 280 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: is going to be a problem because he's able to 281 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: close windows. Um, there are plenty of defensive backs. You know. 282 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: We're so fast and furious and everyone was all over. 283 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: I will say this, they did it differently because it 284 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: was like eighty of the guys and they had to 285 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: pay their own way. But the talent is tremendous and 286 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: there are a lot of underclassmen that we have to 287 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: keep up with going forward. Nice. Well, I'm excited, man. 288 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: It's fun to get an eye on those kids like 289 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: you do early on in the process. Uh, let us 290 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: know what's coming down the pipeline here, all right. I 291 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: want to get over to a little bit of a 292 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: baseball crossover discussion, and I want to get to what 293 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 1: you had had read about Joe Madden and some of 294 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: the things you took away from that. But I want 295 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: to start off, and we haven't talked about this, but 296 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: this is something I'm I'm kind of been working on 297 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: a project with this with our buddy Bill smith On, 298 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: who does a lot of the research projects is great. Um. 299 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: But I was talking with a baseball executive and he 300 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: brought up I actually sent him a text message about 301 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: a player. Uh. I mean, I can be honest about it. 302 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: It's Tommy Fam. Tommy Fam for the Padres started off 303 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: the first month to the six weeks of the season 304 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: was bad, like just not hitting. Just it was bad. 305 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: And then you know, they just were like, I'll just 306 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: be patient with him. And then all of a sudden, 307 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, he just turned it on and he's he's 308 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: put together a really, really good season. So I was 309 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: just texting with him and I just said, you know, 310 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: the uh, it's so fascinating to me how patient you 311 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: can be in baseball, whereas in football if a guy 312 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: has six weeks, I mean that's a huge chunk of 313 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: the season. Man, it's a third of the season. Uh 314 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: So you can't you know, you have to move off 315 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: of those decisions. I said, It's just interesting that the 316 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: different evaluations you have to make in terms of sample 317 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: size UM versus football. And maybe it got me thinking, 318 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,359 Speaker 1: maybe we give up on some of these players prematurely, 319 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: that we don't give him enough time to to let 320 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: them work through some things, you know. And uh, he 321 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: brought up a great point about even in baseball to 322 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: have issues because if you think about it, relievers and 323 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: starters both will get judged on an annual basis, even 324 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: though a starter might throw two innings and a reliever 325 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: might throw thirty five innings. So there is some value 326 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: to be had because people they kind of make a 327 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: determination prematurely on relievers after maybe two or three years, 328 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: what might take four or five years before you know 329 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: exactly what that guy is. So I think there's there's 330 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: something to be done there or with sample sized with players. 331 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: And it got me thinking with the NFL, and you 332 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: think about examples like offensive lineman the five best play right, 333 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: so if everything goes perfect, you trot the same five 334 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: guys out there the whole time, your backups wouldn't play. 335 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: So there might be some offensive lineman that are swing 336 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: guys um on good teams that maybe don't play a 337 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: lot on their first contract. Maybe those are kind of 338 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe roll the dice on some of those 339 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: type guys when you get to the second contract. Now, 340 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's funny what you're talking about 341 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: sample size, and it actually dove tails into some of 342 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: the stuff that I heard and read from Joe Madden 343 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: when I was digging into his success over the years. 344 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: And so you talk about the patients and understanding DJ. 345 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: I do believe that there needs to be more patients 346 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and I think that patients 347 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: has to be demonstrated by not only scouts but by coaches. 348 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: And I think what you're talking about, as I think 349 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: your personnel staff and your coaching staff has to be 350 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: in lock still. But the only way it can be 351 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: in lockstep, it has to be an ownership decision that 352 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: we're going to build it and build it the right way. 353 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: For example, if we're going to be a homegrown team 354 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: where we really believe in draft and develop, where we 355 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: have to play the young guys enough so they actually 356 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: can develop. And so if we're going to do that, 357 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: then you need to find a way to allow those 358 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: guys to play through their mistakes, to have a level 359 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: of fearlessness that they don't fear making a mistake because 360 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: it's going to lead to them coming out. I think 361 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that I took from Joe Madden 362 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: and reading his stuff is hey, man, you gotta let 363 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: your best players play through their stuff. And you don't 364 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: want to, he said this, I don't want to in 365 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: fear with their genius and their greatness. My job is 366 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: a step out the way. Let them learn how to 367 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: figure it out. Give them some tools, but let them 368 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: figure out which tools to use in those situations. And 369 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: so what I'm hearing from you when you talk about uh, 370 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: the young guys in baseball with the general manager that 371 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: you spoke to, it's kind of the same. Hey, let's 372 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: give these guys an oppert tunity to work through some 373 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: of these rough moments before we make these decisions. And 374 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: it really reminds me of the conversation that people are 375 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: having over to a ton about la Like to a 376 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: ton about Laura plays half the season and we're making 377 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: these sweeping judgments, Oh he can he can't play based 378 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: off this small sample size. I think what we have 379 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: to do is fully let people play it out before 380 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: we make these hard determinations on where the guys can 381 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: play or not. Well, this is the other thing that 382 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: that was brought up in this conversation when we're talking 383 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: about sample size. Um, we were talking about a player 384 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: that had developed and was kind of a late bloomer 385 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: and he said, I had never heard this phrase before 386 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: in baseball, but he said, oh yeah, that's the different. 387 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: It's a cold weather high school kid, like the longest, 388 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: the longest development track is for not just a high 389 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: school player, but a cold weather high school player. Because 390 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: you think about it, you grew up in California, Texas, Florida. 391 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: You're you're not only playing baseball year round, you're playing 392 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: against really good petition. You grow up in Minnesota and 393 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: you're not able to play year round. You're in a cage, 394 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: maybe doing some things that way, maybe you go to 395 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: a tournament here there, um, but you're not playing year round. 396 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: And even when you're playing in your season and you're 397 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: in the spring, you're not playing against the best competition, 398 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: um that those guys are playing against. So in other words, 399 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: you need to you need to have more patients with 400 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: that type of a player and not and not you know, 401 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: throw him away too soon. And it even got me thinking, 402 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: and you know, look, I know Carson Wentz has been 403 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL for a while, but he's missed time 404 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: with injury. He played at a lower level UM at 405 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: North Dakota State. Even though it's the best of the 406 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: best of that level. So it almost almost leaves you 407 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: wondering kind of like, is there maybe even as old 408 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: as he is as many games, is there even still 409 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: can he get better? Like is there are we maybe 410 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: is there more room for him? I don't know. It 411 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: just got me thinking about guys like that. Yeah, I 412 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: absolutely believe that that is the case. And you know, 413 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are rest the judged. I think when you do 414 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: take in all the things, the factors that you mentioned 415 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz, I believe it's something that probably needs 416 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: to be inserted in the conversation a little more. Now. 417 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: It always gets clouded because he got the big contract, 418 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: he was considered a franchise quarterback, he was considered a 419 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: front runner to be an m v P when he 420 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: played at his best, and so it's hard to give 421 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: him that. But DJ, I believe when you go back 422 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz in particularly, I went back and I 423 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: looked at how he played at North Dakota State at 424 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: his best, he threw the ball between twenty four and 425 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: twenty nine times. Then when you talk about the amount 426 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: of passes that he had at North Dakota State, how 427 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: they played, how they operated, um he was only a 428 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: two year starter there. He then goes to Philadelphia. You 429 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: talk about the injuries and how they kind of kept 430 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: him in and out the lineup at times, and how 431 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: he's kind of working through those things. He really is, 432 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: And I would say he's an experienced player, but he's 433 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: certainly not as experienced as the age on his trading 434 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: card would suggest. And so maybe we should is it 435 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: been a little more patience with him as he continues 436 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: to develop and kind of find the groove or the 437 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: sweet spots to his game. Yeah, and and maybe even 438 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: he's not the perfect example. There's other guys though that 439 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: you think about that just there's still more more growth. 440 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: Let's store up Sam Donald. All right, let's store up 441 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: Sam Donald in this evaluation. But Sam Donald started how 442 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: many years at USC too? Yep? I think he was 443 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: a two year starter early one and a half. Yeah, okay, 444 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: so at one point five years starter at USC, he 445 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: goes to New York. We can talk about the dysfunction 446 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: in the changing parts around him. Um, how experienced is 447 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: he really? If you go back to high school, how 448 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: many years did he really play in high school? One? 449 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Maybe two? I know he was an outside linebacker the 450 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: first year, so as Clementy. So you're really talking about 451 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: about a guy who hasn't played a lot, and most guys, 452 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: I would say, aren't necessarily afforded the opportunity in the 453 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: National Football League to really grow and develop in that position. 454 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: And I think is one of those things where the 455 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: league has just changed where you would see a guy 456 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: like Steve Young, who it took a long time for 457 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: him to pop in the National Football League, but he 458 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: eventually did. He became a Hall of Famer. We don't 459 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: use those same kind of standards and developmental processes to 460 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: allow our young quarterbacks and young players to fully develop. Yeah, 461 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: I think to me, it probably comes down to do 462 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: you have the talent And we've talked about this before, 463 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: but you have the talent and the makeup. If you've 464 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: got the talent and the makeup, then maybe let's exercise 465 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: a little more patients here that that this guy is 466 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: going to eventually figure it out. But I think there's 467 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: a way, you know, I'm trying to figure out a 468 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: way where you can almost kind of come up with 469 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: a number, you know, and and it would probably be different, 470 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: but depending on the level that you came out of 471 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: college but the number of snaps you feel like, Okay, 472 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: this is a it's not an exact number, but this 473 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: is you know, we talked about with quarterbacks before, you know, 474 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: a certain number of starts what we say forty starts 475 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: or something over you know, it's funny. So it's weird. 476 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: It's weird because like the general rule in the National 477 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: Football League, it takes about three years to figure out 478 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: if a guy can play or not. Right, But yet 479 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: when we talk about quarterbacks, the number that has been 480 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: frequently thrown out has been thirty to thirty two starts. 481 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: I remember Brian Billick saying that I know a lot 482 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: of coaches subscribed to that, but that's really only two 483 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: full years. That's a low that's a low number. That's 484 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: a that's too low for me, right, that that's a 485 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: low number. And so forty starts, to me is probably 486 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: a more realistic deal because that's two and a half year, 487 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: two and a half years of games under year, bill right, 488 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: two and a half starts. You know what else? You 489 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: know what else? I would add, though, I think we 490 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: might even be looking at it wrong from starts. I 491 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: think it should be like if you're talking about quarterbacks 492 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: to me, it's past attempts, like, because I don't care 493 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: if you go out there and throw the ball twelve 494 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: times and hand the ball off on a really good team, 495 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: like you're not developing. You know, I don't know what 496 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: you are. I don't you haven't been given the keys 497 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: to the car yet. So to me, it's almost like 498 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: the number of past attempts, or if it's an offensive lineman, 499 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: it's snaps because he might say, oh, he played in 500 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: fifty seven games, well, yeah, and and fifteen of those 501 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: games he sprinkled in and played fifteen snaps. Like to me, 502 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: it's like you can be a little bit more exact 503 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: with that. You know, it's funny that you mentioned that, 504 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: because it is about repetitions. That's everything. Um, and so 505 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: I was looking at something like Tony Russe has the 506 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox like balling out and uh. In reading stuff, 507 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: they talk about what has been the biggest difference, and 508 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: this thing has always been fundamentals. And look, repetitions lead 509 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: to skills, Skills lead to expertise. And so if you 510 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: talk about it just like that, DJ, you want to 511 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: get your guys the most snaps because every snap allows 512 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: you to have an experience that goes into the mental bank, right, 513 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: and as you begin to build those things and develop 514 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: those skills, you then to begin to develop the confidence 515 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: to play it your max pretend into And so if 516 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: you think about all players, they all need reps. When 517 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: can't we give those guys reps the teams that have 518 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: been the most successful. If you go back to looking 519 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: at how the Seattle Seahawks had their run with all 520 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: the undrafted and young players, they put them on the 521 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: field and they let them play through it, and they 522 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: had a front office and coaching staff that was in 523 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: lockstep when it came to developing the players. I think 524 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: everybody has to be in alignment to be able to 525 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: do what it is that you and I are talking 526 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: about being able to do, no doubt. Um, all right, 527 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: that's a it's a it's a fun discussion and a 528 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: fun topic. We can revisit another time as well as 529 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: we kind of learn more about it and come up 530 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: with a plan there. But I do want to before 531 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: we get out of here, hit on some position battles 532 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: because as we're getting ready to march towards training camp, 533 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: which I don't want to give away the secrets, but 534 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: I think we are. I think the network is gonna 535 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: go strong on training camp this year, so you're gonna 536 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: have all your training camp needs covered on NFL Network 537 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: as we kind of enjoy the fact that we're pened 538 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: up and things are getting back to normal here. So 539 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: position battles, three position battles in the NFC I wanted 540 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: to focus on, and they're all happened to be quarterback battles. 541 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Let's start first with Chicago Bears. Um Nick Foles is 542 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: still there. I don't man, I wouldn't imagine that the 543 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: he'll get traded here at some point in time, I 544 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: would guess. But obviously it comes down to Andy Dalton 545 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: and Justin Fields, and it looks like Andy Dalton has 546 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: the has been given the go ahead at least thus 547 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: far from Matt Naggy. Yeah. I mean like the way 548 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: that all the noise coming out of Chicago is that 549 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a situation where when Justin Fields 550 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: is ready, they would give him opportunity, but there's no 551 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: pressure on him to get on the field. They feel 552 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: good about what they have and Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton 553 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: played well doing a I would say a solid sample 554 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: size with the Dallas Cowboys. But Kenny played well in Chicago. 555 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: He will be reunited with his old offensive coordinated that 556 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: he had a Cincinnati for a while, Bill Laser. Even 557 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: though Matt Naggi is calling the plays and so it 558 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: should give him an opportunity to kind of hit the 559 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: ground running in Chicago while Justin Fields is working on 560 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: his game and the practice on the practice field and 561 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: in preseason games. Eventually, though, I would expeact Justin Fields 562 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: to get on the field maybe around week eight, week nine, 563 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: whenever the Bears have the bye week. I think that's 564 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: when we need to have Antenna's up for Justin Fields 565 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: maybe taking over. He's obviously a super talented player. He 566 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: is someone who has next level ability. When will Matt 567 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: Naggie feel comfortable giving him the ball? I don't know. 568 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it depends on how Andy 569 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Dalton plays as a starter and what the Bears record 570 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: looks like at Bears points throughout the season. Yeah, They're 571 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: bye week is week ten, um perfect, and that's that's 572 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: coming off games against San Francis, coming off games against 573 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: Listen to this stretch they play in October seventeenth, that's 574 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: green Bay at Tampa San Francisco at Pittsburgh. Okay, so 575 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: we may have a four game we may have a 576 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: four game losing streak. That might be the perfect time 577 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: to hand up Beside, then he comes out of the 578 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: by he's got a home game against the Ravens with 579 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: with a good defense, and it's Detroit Arizona. So okay, 580 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: I think that that that makes some sense. I will 581 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: say this though, you know, guys are not gonna be 582 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: playing a lot of starters in preseason games. They're gonna 583 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: rely on these uh on these joint practices, which means 584 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: Justin Fields is probably gonna start and play a ton 585 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: of the preseason against a bunch of backups, and it's 586 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna look like it's gonna look like he's play against 587 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: high school kids, and it's gonna put a lot of 588 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 1: pressure on the Bears to run him out there. I'm 589 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: just calling my shot on that one right now. Oh absolutely. 590 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's gonna look great during the preseason. Um, 591 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, it just depends. I would say this with Naggie, Um, 592 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: I know he's gonna lean on his experience. When Patrick 593 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: Mahomes had an opportunity to sit behind Alex Smith, Patrick 594 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: Mahomes did play that last game against the Denver Broncos, 595 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: and that's the one to kind of he showed him 596 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: prove that he might be ready to take over the reins. 597 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: I wonder when they're going to have that moment for 598 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: justin fields, like when everyone in the building knows, okay Man, 599 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: the young guy is ready to take it. Now. It 600 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: could be impacted by that stretch that we talked about 601 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: where it could be very challenging and difficult for this 602 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: offense to score, or it could be a situation where 603 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: it's undeniable that the young quarterback will give them the 604 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: best opportunity to fully open up the playbook and change 605 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: the way they've always played offensive football in Chicago, no doubt. 606 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: All Right, New Orleans Saints. Who who do you think 607 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: wins that one? Between Jamis and Taysom Hill. I think 608 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Jameis eventually wins it. I think Jamis gives them something 609 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: that they didn't have under Drew Brees. And I love 610 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Drew Brees and I respect all that he did, But 611 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: this was a team they had to play small ball. 612 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: They didn't have the ability to hit the ball out 613 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: the park and couldn't push it down the field. Well, 614 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: if Jamis can rein in some of the Dare deevil 615 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: tactics that he had when he was in Tampa, pushed 616 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: the ball down the field and really allowed the Saints 617 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: to expand the way they attacked the field. Now with 618 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara and some of of weapons 619 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: that really kill it underneath, this is an offense that 620 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: could go next level. I think Taysom Hill still has 621 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: a role as a Swiss Army knife. I just think 622 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: Jamie's is a much better passer and he allows Chanpagne 623 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: to continue to do what they've done in terms of 624 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: using Taysom Hill as a weapon while giving them the 625 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: added uh dimension of being able to throw the ball 626 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: down the field and attack the deep part of the field. Yeah. 627 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: I feel like if you start Jamis, you get both guys, 628 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: because you can still use Taysom Hill a bunch and 629 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: roll him through there, maybe even increase his role even 630 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: over what he had pairing up with Drew Brees. But 631 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: if you start Taysom Hill, you just Taysom Hill like 632 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: it's a it's a one man show. You don't really 633 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: have I mean, I can't really throw Jamis in there. 634 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: You know it's a change up. I don't see that happening, 635 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: So to me, it makes more sense in the way 636 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: they would probably like it to go, would be Jamis 637 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: and then still being able to use and sprinkle and 638 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill back there for some of the stuff they 639 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: want to do with him. You know, I think that 640 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: does make sense because now you have two pitches. If 641 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: you have Jamis and Taysom Hill. If you just throw 642 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: Taso Hill out there, it's like facing the knuckler. The 643 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: knuckler doesn't have as much um or effectively if you 644 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: have a rotation full of knucklers. It's different though, when 645 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: it's when it's different and you see it and you're 646 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: you're not used to dealing with that kind of Yeah, 647 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: I think that's what Taysom Hill is because I think 648 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: the more you see Taysom Hill, the less effective he 649 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: is as defenses begin to really understand what he can 650 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: and what he can't do, no doubt. And then, uh, 651 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: last one, forty Niners got the rookie there and Trey 652 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo, what's your what's your take on 653 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: that one? This is Jimmy Garoppolo's job as long as 654 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: he's healthy, Um, we can talk about all the things 655 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: that Tray Lance will bring to the table. With Jimmy 656 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: Garoppolo is twenty two and eight as a starter in 657 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: the regular season when he's available. His biggest issue has 658 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: been the lack of availability when he is not available. 659 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: This is a team that is really struggled. So to me, 660 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: Trey Lance was insurance against Jimmy Garoppolo getting hurt. But 661 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: if he plays little Man, it's been proven he can 662 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: get them to the Super well and put them in 663 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: a position to win it. It's just a matter of 664 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: him being available. I think if he's available for most 665 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: of the one season, I think he is the starter. 666 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: But I think if he leaves the door crack and 667 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: Trey Lance bust through it, then I think the fund 668 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: begins because I think Kyle Shanahan can't wait to kind 669 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: of play with his new toy. Yeah, I agree with that. 670 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: I feel like the first two with the Bears and 671 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: the Saints that they have to make a decision. I 672 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: feel like the forty Niners, the decision is gonna be 673 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: made for him, and that's whenever Jimmy gets hurt, you know, 674 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: which is basically happened every year, so he just kind 675 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: of You're just kind of sitting when is that gonna happen, 676 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 1: you know, and then once that happens, off you go. 677 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: So you don't have to if you're Kyle Shannon, I 678 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: don't think you have to have any sleepless nights here. 679 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: This is gonna get made for you. Now. I think 680 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be made for you. But I think what 681 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for them to resist because you've 682 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: already heard John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan talked about how 683 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: Kyle was so excited about kind of drawing up new 684 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: plays and what they can do to me, Trey Lance 685 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: gives Kyle Shanahan the best of both worlds. He gives 686 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: them the opportunity to play it the way they ball. 687 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: We just wanted to play under center, while also adding 688 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: in some of the stuff that he did with r 689 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: G three that made debt offense man a nightmare to 690 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: deal with when r G three was rolling his rookie season. 691 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: It could be a problem. It could make a dangerous 692 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: run game scarier because now you have to also defend 693 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I'm excited to see once Trailance gets out 694 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: on the field. It Once he gets on the field, 695 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: he ain't coming off. I can tell you that much. 696 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun. Hopefully for Jimmy Garoppolo's sake. 697 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: That takes a minute. But anyways, man, this is a 698 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: fun fun show today. Buck anything you want to add 699 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: before we jump out of here, No, DJ, it's funny 700 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: because we're getting at the All Star breaking baseball and 701 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm keeping up. I'm back in like now is when 702 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: I begin to play bass to check in. I went 703 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: and saw the Dodgers. I saw the Dodgers play the 704 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Giants a week ago. There the Dodgers. It was part 705 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: of like their eight game winning street And I'm just saying, 706 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm beginning to see the piece of the puzz will 707 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: come together. Like I think they've kind of shaken off 708 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: the boardom I think they're kind of they're kind of 709 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: they're kind of getting off of it. But man, the 710 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: Giants are so good. I don't understand the Giants. I 711 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: don't understand. That's not gonna last. I don't understand. They're 712 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: all old. They're all old, they're breaking down, they're all 713 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: playing over their heads. That's not gonna last. They've played 714 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: an easier schedule, they got to play better. Teams got 715 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: new uniforms. They got new uniforms. I did like the uniforms. 716 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: I did like the new uniforms and all that. So 717 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure them out. I'm looking at Milwaukee. 718 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: Milwaukee is in the mix. The New York Mets are 719 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: at the top of the division their division. I go, 720 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: the Houston Astros are out there ball in Chicago white 721 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: Socks and who knows man to Boston Red Sox. Like 722 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: I am, just we're gonna get in. I would like 723 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: to try and win the divisions to not have to 724 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: play a one game wild card. But that's okay. We'll 725 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: go one game wild card. We can throw you Darvish 726 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: out there. It'll probably be the Dodgers winning the division. 727 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: It'll be the Padres and the Giants and the one 728 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: game playoff. We'll win that and it'll be the Dodgers 729 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: worst nightmare. They gotta deal with the one team that's 730 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: not scared of them. I mean maybe, I don't know. 731 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean it might be wonder did you see the 732 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: catchup Tattoos made last night? By the way, I mean, 733 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: he's just so awesome, man, he is so like he 734 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: is so crazy. Like it's funny because my son, who's 735 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: a baseball player, was was sitting here talking about the 736 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: game is changing and how exciting it is, like the 737 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: new crew or whatever. He said, it's not only felt 738 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: in the majors. But he was just talking about college 739 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: baseball because we said and watched all the college World 740 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: Series stuff bat flips DJ. I'm gonna say this, there's 741 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: a new level of athleticism that's entering the college game. 742 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: Like you're seeing different athletes, you're seeing a different style, 743 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: You're seeing more of the what I was call it, 744 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: like connect the dots baseball. People are getting on stealing 745 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: bases and doing that stuff. I think it's a more 746 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: exciting brand of baseball to watch. I'm not gonna lie. 747 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: I went to the Dodging game and I got a 748 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 1: little bored because it's like get on base and wait 749 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: for somebody to hit a big bopper. To me, that 750 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: is that it's hard to watch on TV. It's hard 751 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: to watching us in all the time. I would like 752 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: to see a little more running, a little more excitement. 753 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: So I do get this sometimes when I check out 754 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: your padres and all the other stuff. I just needed 755 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: to stay in their little place though I need to stay. Yeah, 756 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: we're just gonna beat the bad teams, man. That's our problem. 757 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: That's it. The focus has been on the Dodgers tomorrow, 758 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: laser focus. All right, let's get out of here, man. 759 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: It's good to catch up with your goodnes see your 760 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: face man. But we're back with another episode here in 761 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: a couple of days. I appreciate you guys hanging with us. Remember, 762 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: as always, you can find all the video content NFL 763 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: dot com Slash mts Video YouTube dot com Slash NFL podcast. 764 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: You can download the movie six podcasts on Apple podcast 765 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: or your favorite podcast app. That's gonna go for it today. 766 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for hanging with us, and we'll catch 767 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: you next time right here on Move the Sticks. 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