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Speaker 1: This is a regular Lesson Happy Table one. You're saying

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Speaker 2: Humans need fantasy to be human. My goodness, mis.

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Speaker 1: Sprone bets relentless, refusing to give up.

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Speaker 2: All right, hit that horn very bless their.

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Speaker 1: Love and Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast presented by

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Speaker 1: Price Picks. I'm your host, Samantha Pubdi on today's episode

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Speaker 1: of twenty one questions. I am so happy to be

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Speaker 1: joined by the one and only John Paulson, who is

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Speaker 1: the director of forecasting at four for four Football, who

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Speaker 1: you can find on Twitter at four for four Underscore.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex John. How is your week thirteen?

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Speaker 3: Ely thirteen wasn't too bad? I think I won most

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Speaker 3: of my matchups, but it's not quite over with the

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Speaker 3: Bills and Patriots tonight, but thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: I think we're getting ready for the game in about

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Speaker 3: an hour, so looking.

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Speaker 2: Forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there's always something to do in this industry, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you sharing some time from your very

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Speaker 1: busy life week thirteen was interesting. I a very decisive week.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, or at least could be decisive in

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Speaker 1: all right, John, let us just hop right in. Question

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Speaker 1: one is what year did you start playing fantasy and

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Speaker 3: I think it was when I was in college. I'm

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Did you have you played other formats? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: like other sports, fantasy baseball, fantasy basketball and all that too.

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Speaker 1: Enough, I only do fantasy football. I've just noticed a

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's it's being able to beat my friends

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Speaker 1: going to talk about is James Robinson, so he was

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Speaker 3: But right now it may almost seem like this week

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Speaker 1: to talk about is Ezekiel Elliott. So he out touched

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Speaker 3: He's being ranked as you see my son right racing

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Speaker 3: Right now we are. I mean, Zeke is no longer

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Speaker 3: I really wanted to rank Pollard over Zeke this week,

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Speaker 3: It's just the problem is the Pollard is clearly the

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Speaker 3: more explosive and more productive player on a per touch basis.

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Speaker 3: Now it's just the number of touches that Zeke commands

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Speaker 1: It's been a very up and down season for mclauren,

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Speaker 1: Eagles Week fourteen by Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This is an interesting segment because I can't say that

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Speaker 3: I'm full send on Gainwell knowing but has happened in

440
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Speaker 3: that backfield over the last month.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most frustrating backfields. We talk about

442
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and Kyle Shanahan being really annoying for fantasy,

443
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Speaker 1: but this has been I think one of the worst

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Speaker 1: backfields for fantasy this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you've got Jordan Howard who's on the shelf,

446
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Speaker 3: and if he comes back, what happens with him, because

447
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Speaker 3: he looked like he was ahead of Boston Scott and

448
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Speaker 3: Miles Sanders for or at least you know in a three.

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Speaker 2: Way committee with them.

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Speaker 3: I think if you're assuming Howard is out and now

451
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Speaker 3: you're assuming Sanders maybe misses a game or two with

452
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Speaker 3: this ankle injury, look pretty bad in terms of his limping,

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Speaker 3: but we'll see. Certainly, Gamewell earned some touches with a

454
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Speaker 3: pretty good performance. I mean seventeen touches, fifty four yards rushing,

455
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Speaker 3: thirty three three yards receiving, got the touchdown, and he

456
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Speaker 3: had some pretty good plays earlier in the season. But

457
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Speaker 3: he just sort of went to the shelf recently. And

458
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Speaker 3: when Scott was healthy, he was well ahead of Gamewell.

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Speaker 3: He was getting more carried sin Sanders was two weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: So I would assume some sort of committee with those

461
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Speaker 3: two and Gainwell probably getting more reception receptions and Scott

462
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Speaker 3: getting more carries.

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Speaker 2: If Scott has a good week of practice.

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Speaker 3: That's d If you are in need of a running back,

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Speaker 3: Biggers can't be choosers right now. If you're trying to

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Speaker 3: scramble and try to find somebody to start, Gainwell's worth

467
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Speaker 3: a pretty hefty bid because of what do you saving

468
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Speaker 3: your money for right now? On the free agent acquisition budget.

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Speaker 3: You know it's it's it's tough out there for the

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Speaker 3: streets for running.

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Speaker 1: Backs, fair enough. I am just bums that I didn't

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Speaker 1: go one in on Elijah Mitchell and we too, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would like to fancy myself at least

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Speaker 1: an average fantasy player, and I just cannot get this

475
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Speaker 1: backfield right, like whatever week it is, whatever, Like I

476
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Speaker 1: choose one of the running backs and I think that

477
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Speaker 1: they're going to be the guy that week, and it's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Like all signs when we pointed to Gainwell, I started

479
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Speaker 1: gain Well in multiple leagues. He had like two fantasy points.

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Speaker 1: So it's been very, very frustrating. I mean, maybe like

481
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Speaker 1: attrition will kind of give it a little more clarity

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Speaker 1: this week, but we shall see, all right. The next

483
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Speaker 1: skiver to talk about is a very popular name on

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Speaker 1: fantasy Twitter, Javonte Williams. He did not disappoint when given

485
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Speaker 1: the reins to this backfield, posted a season high twenty

486
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Speaker 1: nine touches for one hundred and seventy eight scrimmage yards

487
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Speaker 1: and a touchdown. Currently the RB one heading into Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football, Melvin Gordon is expected to practice ahead of

489
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Speaker 1: the Broncos Week fourteen matchup against the Lions, so this

490
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Speaker 1: could make Javante season a little dicey. I'm asking, are

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Speaker 1: we going full sen on Javonte or will Gordon's presence

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Speaker 1: make this cap.

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Speaker 3: I saw a tweet that said that Gordon was going

494
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Speaker 3: to return to practice this week, and all I could

495
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Speaker 3: hear is a bunch of people booing. In my head,

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Speaker 3: I think everybody but managers who have Gordon rostered? Are

497
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Speaker 3: you wishing that this would be the Johntay Williams show?

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Speaker 3: After what he did last night was really impressive game

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Speaker 3: for him.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward, he.

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Speaker 3: Has four green matchups Detroit, Cincinnati, the Vegas and the Chargers,

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Speaker 3: So I if it's full send that he's going to

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Speaker 3: be a fantasy irvy one the rest of the way. No,

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Speaker 3: I think he's probably still going to split time with

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Speaker 3: with Gordon unless they decide, you know, they just want

506
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Speaker 3: to hand the keys to the you know, the backfield

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Speaker 3: to him and let him go and you know, have

508
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Speaker 3: him as more of the lead back with Gordon as

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Speaker 3: sort of the backup. It gets ten touches, But you know,

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Speaker 3: what we've seen so far this year is just basically

511
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Speaker 3: a down the middle fifty to fifty split. I think

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Speaker 3: that Javonte will be startable given those matchups, though, I

513
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Speaker 3: mean he's been pretty startable even in that split. Throughout

514
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Speaker 3: the season. He has some bad games here and there,

515
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Speaker 3: but he's gone double digits several times and finds the

516
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Speaker 3: end zone here and there. So I think given the

517
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Speaker 3: matchups that he has down the stretch, I think he's

518
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Speaker 3: going to be startable. I just wouldn't expect, you know,

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Speaker 3: week thirteen production every every week the rest of the

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Speaker 3: way unless Gordon's out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean the Broncos have obviously mean very

522
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Speaker 1: hard on the run game with their somewhat deficient passing game,

523
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Speaker 1: which is made both of them fantasy relevant in multiple matchups.

524
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Speaker 1: Like they're both startable in certain match in certain matchups.

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Speaker 1: This year, I feel like we were seeing a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a trend towards Javonte with the touches and

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Speaker 1: like snap counts kind of going a little bit in

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Speaker 1: his direction even before the injury. And it's kind of

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Speaker 1: one of those things I'm like wondering, like can you

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Speaker 1: put the genie back in the bottle? Like Broncos fans

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Speaker 1: want to see this and I know that doesn't really matter,

532
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Speaker 1: but like it's really impressive and that's their future, so

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Speaker 1: I think it could be interesting if they do start

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Speaker 1: transitioning more of that direction. All right, Next up is

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Speaker 1: I'm on rass Saint Brown, which I will just say

536
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Speaker 1: was one of my preseason sleepers, been a little sleepy,

537
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Speaker 1: but he exploded in Week thirteen against the Vikings, caught

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Speaker 1: ten of twelve targets for eighty six yards in a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: This depth chart is bereft of talent, so there is

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Speaker 1: a clear path for Saint Brown to be their number one.

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Speaker 1: My question is, could Saint Brown return on flex fout like,

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Speaker 1: how could he have flex value in the right matchups?

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Speaker 1: Or is trusting any Lions wide out cap.

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Speaker 3: I think it's dicey to count on him in your

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Speaker 3: flex or in a you know why if your three spot.

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Speaker 3: Just looking at his targets throughout the year, they've just

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Speaker 3: been up and down and he doesn't He's not like

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Speaker 3: a super explosive player or anything. This was by far

549
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Speaker 3: his best game of the year. Prior to this, he

550
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Speaker 3: hadn't scored more than thirteen point five Fantasy points PPR.

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Speaker 3: He had you know, four or five games under ten

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Speaker 3: in the last six or seven games, So it's it's

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Speaker 3: kind of you're you're kind of chasing points. I think

554
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Speaker 3: also Josh Reynolds there, I sort of like him. He

555
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Speaker 3: seems to have a pretty good rapport with his old

556
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Speaker 3: quarterback Jared Goff. Saint Brown did have the big game

557
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Speaker 3: against Minnesota. I think you have to look at specific

558
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Speaker 3: cornerback matchups with Saint Brown. So if he has a

559
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Speaker 3: really bad matchup, just stay away from him in the

560
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Speaker 3: slot because he slot. The slot receivers end up on

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Speaker 3: the slot corners like ninety percent of the time, So

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Speaker 3: if you have a really tough slot corner, you might

563
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Speaker 3: want to just bench him. But if he has a

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Speaker 3: good matchup with somebody that's terrible, then he might be startable.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely an opportunity in this offense for somebody to

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Speaker 3: step up. But I think it's a different guy, you

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Speaker 3: know each week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a ton of touchdowns to go around

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Speaker 1: in this offense, so it may be just one guy

570
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Speaker 1: every week, and you don't know which guy, all right.

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Speaker 1: The final guy we're going to talk about you already

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Speaker 1: alluded to him is kJ Ousbourne. He had a sweet

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Speaker 1: Week thirteen in Detroit, caught four of seven targets for

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Speaker 1: forty seven yards. And a touchdown. Adam Feeling, of course,

575
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Speaker 1: went down with that ankle spring, which means it's I

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Speaker 1: mean unlikely, very unlikely he plays on the short week

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Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh. Are we going full sent on Osbourne this week?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And I think maybe even rest of the season.

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Speaker 3: With Feeling that high ankle sprain might be out three

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Speaker 3: weeks or more.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how he comes back.

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Speaker 3: It depends on the grade of the high ankle sprain,

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Speaker 3: but I don't I'm not super optimistic about the rest

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Speaker 3: of the season for Adam Feelin. And the nice thing

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Speaker 3: about Osborne is that we've seen him produce multiple times

586
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Speaker 3: this year. I mean, he started with seven for seventy

587
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Speaker 3: six and week one he had five for ninety one

588
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Speaker 3: and touchdown in week two and everybody who was running

589
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Speaker 3: to the waiver ward to pick him up. And then

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Speaker 3: you know, he kind of suffered from being the wide

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Speaker 3: receiver three in that offense and getting them getting Justin

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Speaker 3: Jefferson more involved in the passing game, which was a

593
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Speaker 3: wise move on their part. But he also had you know,

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Speaker 3: week six, six for seventy eight and a touchdown, seven

595
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Speaker 3: targets and then as soon as steel and gets knocked

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Speaker 3: out of this game. He you know, catches a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: forty seven yards for receptions another seven targets, So I

598
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Speaker 3: think he's along with maybe Kendrick Warren, who is somehow

599
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Speaker 3: the number twelve fantasy receivers since Week three. He's not

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Speaker 3: going to do much tonight with the wind and snow

601
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Speaker 3: and buffalo. But those two the two guys on the

602
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Speaker 3: way where that I'd be picking up if I need

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Speaker 3: some receiver help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that number two receiver spot, which is now vacated

605
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Speaker 1: from Feeling, is certainly an enviable thing in the Vikings offense.

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Speaker 1: Feelin already had ten touchdowns this year, so it'll certainly

607
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see Osborne seymore targets. All right, John,

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Speaker 1: you made it through all the serious finnasy stuff. We've

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Speaker 1: got nine more rapid fire questions for you. People, get

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Speaker 1: you out of here. So question thirteen is a name

611
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Speaker 1: one player you just cannot quit or you always find

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Speaker 1: yourself making excuses for.

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Speaker 3: I think it has to be this year, especially Ryan Tannehill.

614
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Speaker 3: He was my top plan at quarterback heading into the year.

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Speaker 3: He was a bona fide QB one as a starter

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Speaker 3: for Tennessee over the last year. And a half and

617
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Speaker 3: he's getting Julio Jones, so I was excited about that.

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Speaker 2: AJ Brown was obviously back.

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Speaker 3: I felt like he was a shoe in, you know,

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Speaker 3: low end QB one, mid range QB one, and some

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Speaker 3: of our subscribers are mad at me for having drafted him,

622
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Speaker 3: and you know, I think that as a tenth round pick,

623
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Speaker 3: you can move on and find quarterback help elsewhere. I

624
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Speaker 3: don't think that there was that much invested in him

625
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Speaker 3: really with that sort of level pick, But I did

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Speaker 3: I find myself making excuses for him. I still think

627
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Speaker 3: that he would have had a good year it had

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Speaker 3: everybody stayed healthy. But Brown's been hurt, Julio has been hurt,

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Speaker 3: and now he's being asked to do a little bit

630
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Speaker 3: more because Derek Henry's out. But of course Derrick Henry

631
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Speaker 3: being out affects the offense negatively as well. So I'll

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Speaker 3: definitely say Tanny is the guy I just can't quit.

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Speaker 1: He is certainly a guy that I was I think

634
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Speaker 1: pretty wrong about. I think the Titans offense in general,

635
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Speaker 1: I was pretty wrong about. I just thought they'd have

636
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Speaker 1: a lot more explosion, and I know, I know their

637
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: offensive line has maybe had their struggles as well, so

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put all that blame on Ryan Tannehill.

639
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Speaker 1: But yeah, he was QB seven last year, I believe,

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Speaker 1: and I don't even want to check what he is,

641
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Speaker 1: but he's probably in the twenties this season. All right.

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Speaker 1: You did tell me that you're a Packers fan before this,

643
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Speaker 1: so predict when the Packers will win their next Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll be alive for it after that. Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember, you might be too young,

646
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: but the Seattle game several years ago where the Packers had.

647
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: Another Super Bowl trip.

648
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: Ready to go, and all they had to do is

649
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 3: like cover an on side kick and they didn't, and

650
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Speaker 3: Seattle got the ball back and ended up winning and

651
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Speaker 3: going and playing New England and then New England won,

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Speaker 3: And that was the one and only time I was

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Speaker 3: ever rooting for New England Patriots was to beat Seattle.

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Speaker 2: I am not going to I don't know when they

655
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Speaker 2: I hope my son gets to see.

656
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: He's a Packer owner quote unquote, so I've kind of

657
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: forced him to be a Packer fan by making him

658
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: a part owner and the team. But I hope he

659
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: sees it at least in another Super Bowl, and I'd

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Speaker 3: like it to be this year with Rogers if it's

661
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: his last dance. But boy, when will they will the

662
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: next one? I mean, at some point they will, but

663
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: I can't even tell you when it will be. It's

664
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Speaker 3: either this year or might be down the line of ways.

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Speaker 3: Give them the quarterback situation, I will.

666
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Speaker 1: Say that is the least optimistic answer I have from

667
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Speaker 1: anyone on this podcast.

668
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm a half I'm a half last, half empty person.

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00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: So that's how with the Packers anyway.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because I've just had like a disproportionate

671
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: number of Bears fans on this podcast, like Adam Ranks

672
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: like people, and like they all said like within the

673
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Speaker 1: next five years and stuff.

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00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: So that's very optimistic.

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Speaker 1: It's quite optimistic. But and it's just interesting because you

676
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: actually have the best team of probably anyone that's been

677
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Speaker 1: on this podcast. So that praying for a Super Bowl

678
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: this year, I guess for you so much. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: the Packers, what needs do they need to address during

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00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: the next year's draft.

681
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: Well, we don't know what the teams will look like

682
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: heading into next season. I mean, if Jordan loves the

683
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: quarterback and DeVante Adams moves down because he's a free agent,

684
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: then they definitely need receivers, or at least one stud receiver.

685
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Speaker 3: But we've been clamoring for that for years and years

686
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: and years. They haven't drafted a receiver very early. I

687
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: think it just everything happened. Everything depends on what Rogers

688
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: does and are they trying to store up their few

689
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: weaknesses for one more Super Bowl run or are they

690
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: just built rebuilding. So that's a tough I mean, if

691
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Speaker 3: you want to ask me that in about six months

692
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: and I have a better.

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Speaker 1: Answer for it fair enough. I know it's a little premature,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like a lot of the people that

695
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: have been on this podcast are already like they've written

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00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: off their teams season this year, so we were pretty

697
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: happy to talk about next year looking forward. All right,

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Speaker 1: if you could change one setting in every league, what

699
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: would it be?

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00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: I would like to I'm a big proponent of a

701
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: point per first down instead of PPR. I don't like

702
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: the nine catch for thirty five yard twelve point five

703
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: PPR point days, So I would prefer to not reward

704
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: for just making a simple catch and you know, reward

705
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: for first downs instead.

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Speaker 2: I think, and it's doable.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: A lot of sites will allow that.

709
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Speaker 3: In their scoring, and I think that's I think hopefully

710
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: with the fans football community moves that way, but I

711
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: think PPR is pretty entrenched across the boort.

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00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's an interesting thing. I've been My

713
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: longest league that I've been playing in is my most

714
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: complicated league by far. It is a sixteen team gallery

715
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: cap draft with seven IDP spots, deep benches and like

716
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: the weirdest custom scoring you could ever imagine. Like it's

717
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: basically like I don't like the commissioner doesn't want anyone

718
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: to be able to rely on someone's just like off

719
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Speaker 1: the cuff rankings and stuff like that. So but I

720
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Speaker 1: have they are a league that does reward for first down.

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Speaker 1: So I've been in that league for a while and

722
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: certainly seems to make more sense than just PBR. Was

723
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: the Joe Flacco ever elite yesterday?

724
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: No?

725
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: No, I mean you can maybe right after the Super

726
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: Bowl that he won, you could maybe convince a few people,

727
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: but he was elite. But no, he was always a

728
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: game manager, but solid and new enough not to make

729
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: mistakes with the great defense that he had, So no,

730
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 3: he wasn't.

731
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Speaker 2: He was never elite.

732
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: Well, most people that have been on this podcast agree

733
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Speaker 1: with you. A couple of people have said things like

734
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Speaker 1: he was elite for four games or six games. So

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Speaker 1: who should manager's top weaver at it be this week?

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Speaker 3: I think probably Osborne? I suppose you know Born, depending

737
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: on how it is tonight. I'm just not I mean, I

738
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 3: saw the wind, the video of the wind there. I

739
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 3: just don't think the passing game is going to be

740
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: doing a whole lot tonight. But if he if he

741
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: scores a night touchdown or has another long one, those

742
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: two receivers I think are the prime ads this week.

743
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: Maybe Tennessee running back Foreman might be out there, Dontrell

744
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: Hilliart might be out there.

745
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: It sort of depends on what your your needs are.

746
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: But I think certainly going to the player that has

747
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: seen his value rise the most since yesterday or the

748
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: day before is probably Osborne.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the guy that I've been stashing in that

750
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: sixteen team league, but I have not had the fortitude

751
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: to start him yet and he's popping off on my bench.

752
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: So well, I would I would.

753
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 3: I would say that when you have a talented third

754
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 3: receiver on a team that he's not doing much on

755
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 3: a week week basis, you do have twice the chance

756
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: of something happening to one of the starters. So Jefferson

757
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: getting an injured or Feeling getting injured. It's almost like,

758
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: you know, maybe like a James Washington or an Audentate

759
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: like situation where you've got a chance with if one

760
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 3: of those players goes down, you have twice as much

761
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 3: chance with a player that's the third the third option.

762
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: So I think it was good to stash him and

763
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: Boun's paying off for you. Hopefully it can get you

764
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

765
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: Give me one player you think is for a big

766
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: fantasy season next year.

767
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: Let's go back to Davante. I think, you know, Nolan

768
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: Gordon is we're going to move on. I think it's

769
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: his last year there in Denver. I didn't checked his contract,

770
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: but I think it's his last year there, and he's

771
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 3: when you're looking at Javante after last night, he's got

772
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: back to back twenty point games and it'd probably be

773
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: going eventually. They'll be going in the top five, you know,

774
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: next August. So I would say Javonte Williams.

775
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: Over half of the people that have been on this

776
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: podcast have said ravone.

777
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 2: Oh, because I'm pretty basic.

778
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: So basic, how many attempts would it take you to

779
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: make an extra point?

780
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: What's it? What's it at now? What's the thirty five

781
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: yard or is it the thirty yarder? Do you know?

782
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: No?

783
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: No, before when it was at the two yard.

784
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: Line, I think it wouldn't have taken me that long,

785
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 3: But a thirty five thirty yard field goal that would

786
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: be probably a few tries. I was a pretty good

787
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: soccer player, but it's a big difference between that and

788
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: kicking and football.

789
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: Fair enough, it would take me infinity, like I don't

790
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: even know. I I feel like I would be like

791
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: that basically Peanuts cartoon like whatever where like, but no

792
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: one would have to remove the ball. I would just

793
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: fall trying to kick it. So I am really athletic

794
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: in like balanced type sports and flexibility anything that involves

795
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: core and I have zero hand eye foot eye coordinations,

796
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: so there would be absolutely no shot in the world.

797
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: It definitely would take some like strength, like just being

798
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 3: a kicking power. You have to have a little a

799
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: basic amount of that before you can even get it,

800
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: and then you have to aim it, which is very difficult.

801
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: So for sure. All right. Finally, if you had one

802
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: cardinal rule to tell someone just getting into fantasy this year,

803
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: what would it be.

804
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: One cardinal rule?

805
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: I feel like I should have something prepared for that,

806
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: but I would say, you know, don't draft your quarterback early.

807
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: I think that's still.

808
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: You know, you want to get quarterback, but you can

809
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: get one late, and you don't want to invest too

810
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: early on that, So I would I would definitely say

811
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: wait on your quarterback would be the cardinal role that

812
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: would get you off to a pretty good start in

813
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: your draft, because if you do wait, you can load

814
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 3: up on other positions and then finally find a Tom

815
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: Brady in the ninth round or Ryan Tannehill even better.

816
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: I do feel like we forget being in this echo

817
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: chamber of fantasy Twitter, and even just outside of Twitter,

818
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: you work in the industry, you forget what the average

819
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: draft looks like, and people will come up to me

820
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: and say, like, oh, that's so cool you work in

821
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: fantasy football, Like I took Tom Brady in the second round,

822
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: and like those things certainly do happen a lot. So

823
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: that is good advice, all right. That will do it

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Speaker 1: for this round of twenty one. Questions with our esteem

825
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: guest John Paulton. John, I cannot thank you enough for

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Speaker 1: joining me during this insanely busy time. Please tell everyone

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Speaker 1: where they can find you this NFL season.

828
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find on Twitter at four for four

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Speaker 3: underscore John. Our websitefo dot com has really grown in

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Speaker 3: the last ten years since I have and Josh Moore

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Speaker 3: our owner or former owner. We're just sold to Betsfurts,

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Speaker 3: but has done a great job building a great team

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on again. As a reminder,

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Speaker 1: Sean Kerner and Chris Raybon are here on the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: dominate your fantasy leaks. I will be back this Thursday

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Speaker 1: and every Thursday with my Mailbag episode, speaking of which

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Speaker 2: Y'all