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Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty.

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Speaker 2: We have obviously a lot to cover. I can tell

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Speaker 2: you I'm having epiphanies all the time. They're not quite

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Speaker 2: like orgasms, but but sort of.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you clarify that.

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Speaker 2: Suddenly I jerk my head back and I see, I

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Speaker 2: see the world clearly, and I say, aha, I got

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Speaker 2: it now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you wanted to say it that way,

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Speaker 3: but anyway.

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Speaker 2: Don't read dirty things. I'm talking off the top of

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Speaker 2: my head. Odd things might come out one once I

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Speaker 2: get bounced, I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, well I'll tell you how I'm figuring

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Speaker 2: the world out coming up blent. Charlie's going to help too,

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Speaker 2: since he has been up close to all the excitement

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Speaker 2: at UCLA for the past few days.

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Speaker 1: And they quite a night last night.

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Speaker 4: Blake you there, hey, John, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: Sah?

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Speaker 2: How many people get they did? How many people did

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Speaker 2: they arrest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so right now the count that we're given is

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Speaker 5: like two hundred and three, but that number could raise

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Speaker 5: or could rise here in the next few days. You know,

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Speaker 5: I was told none of these cases now again, this

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Speaker 5: was told to me this morning by a source in

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Speaker 5: the DA's office. But I was told none of these

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Speaker 5: cases have been turned over yet. Most of these cases

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Speaker 5: are going to be simple trespassing cases for the students

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Speaker 5: who refuse to leave the camp. But there are some

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Speaker 5: assault cases pending now, is what I'm told. But prosecutors

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Speaker 5: are going to be working to get their hands on

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Speaker 5: a lot of video and able to get those cases

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Speaker 5: to or those charges to stick.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody's wondering will be there'd be actual prosecutions

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Speaker 2: of anyone for the I mean, god, God, what a

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Speaker 2: mess they created.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and look who they're heading to though.

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Speaker 5: They are heading to George Gascone's office for for prosecution.

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Speaker 4: And you know what.

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Speaker 5: I had sent them an email at ATO three this morning,

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Speaker 5: I said, good morning, how does the DA plan to

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Speaker 5: prosecute cases on the UCLA students? And I have yet

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Speaker 5: to hear anything back now that could be that they're

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Speaker 5: still coming up with a plan or the answer. But yeah, John,

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Speaker 5: it was a pretty intense night showing up here to campus.

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Speaker 5: I showed up as the action was underway and it

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Speaker 5: sounded like a war zone. This morning, we'll get into

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Speaker 5: some of this. Flash bangs were going off throughout the

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Speaker 5: entire night and through the early morning hours. Let's just

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Speaker 5: get a timeline going before we get into some of this.

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Speaker 5: Police had initially called for students to disperse from the

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Speaker 5: camp at about six pm. They gave these students about

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Speaker 5: nine hours. At about three am, police start dismantling the

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Speaker 5: students hard work was torn down pretty quickly by mainly

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Speaker 5: CHP officers in riot gear. They got in there, they

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Speaker 5: started tearing apart this this barrier, and they were met

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Speaker 5: with some resistance. I was watching some TV coverage from

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Speaker 5: the from the line from the exact moment that they

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Speaker 5: they broke down that barrier, and bottles were being thrown.

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Speaker 5: Fire extinguishers were going off at police. Police were firing

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Speaker 5: flashbanks into the air in order to you know, distract

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Speaker 5: appear that some less lethal munitions were used, just by

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Speaker 5: video I saw. I did ask the CHP about that

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Speaker 5: by video it did appear that rubber bullets were possibly

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Speaker 5: being used. When we had asked CHP, what what exactly

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Speaker 5: they said. The spokesperson said, look, I can't give you

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Speaker 5: facing off with officers in riot gear and chanting take

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Speaker 5: different chants. One was there's no riot here, so why

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Speaker 5: they would stand in a formated line, and sometimes that

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Speaker 5: line would look more like a horseshoe, as they kind

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Speaker 5: these protesters, and then every five minutes or so, you'd

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Speaker 5: hear them say push, and they would push these students back. Now,

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Speaker 5: what was really interesting is while there were these impassioned

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Speaker 5: some other ones who I'm guessing were just tired, because

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Speaker 5: They were on their phones, texting, some were sitting down,

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Speaker 5: So I was able to actually talk with a few

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Speaker 4: This is you'll hear the commotion in the background.

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Speaker 5: This is as CHP officers are pushing them off campus.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that I think with this group,

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Speaker 5: and yesterday it interviewed somebody in the encampment and they

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Speaker 5: had said, listen, we're not leaving until the school meets

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Speaker 5: our demands divest from Israeli businesses. Do you all plan

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Speaker 5: to go down with the ship today? If police start

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Speaker 5: making arrests on this contingent of people, I think.

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Speaker 6: It's really interesting how I guess, you know, have started

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Speaker 6: calling police on people. They're saying like like these people,

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Speaker 6: I don't know, They're saying all of these different things

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Speaker 6: about peaceful protesters. Whereas the semester ends like two weeks.

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Speaker 5: So do you think that the encampment would just naturally

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Speaker 5: come to an end in two weeks when this semester

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Speaker 4: Was that the plan?

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Speaker 7: It was it would not come to an end in

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Speaker 7: Leicester just actual a social statement from UCLA that they

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Speaker 7: would divest from iSER.

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Speaker 4: So you would have kept the encampment here through the summer.

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Speaker 6: We would have.

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Speaker 7: We would have We literally were just in there police

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what did you see from the encampment?

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Speaker 5: Because I know the about three am right, they started

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Speaker 4: What'd you see people?

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Speaker 6: People were like extremely peaceful. We arrived and people were

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Speaker 6: like eating food and just talking and like having like

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Speaker 6: like they started coming in and it was like they

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Speaker 6: started like pushing people like I know, like me and

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Speaker 6: it's like they were very violent against us.

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Speaker 4: What did you see from sources students?

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Speaker 6: It was just very violent. They didn't want like we

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Speaker 6: had seen multiple students. They'd offered to like have talks

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Speaker 4: Local authority as well.

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Speaker 6: But no one was responding at all.

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Speaker 5: So right here we stopped because we're actually getting pushed John,

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Speaker 5: and then the interview continues. Here we go, are you

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Speaker 5: afraid of at all though that you know, any sort

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Speaker 6: I think it's really interesting how, like me personally, my

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Speaker 6: like the biggest threat to us is the police, the

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Speaker 6: police violence. It's like they've become the school shooters that

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Speaker 6: we were so afraid about in like elementary, middle.

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Speaker 4: And high school.

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Speaker 2: I figured he liked that, Wow, you know, I had

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Speaker 2: to pick them out unless they're all like that.

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Speaker 5: Well, a lot of them won't even talk to talk

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Speaker 5: to the media. You know, you have to really work

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: I like the account she gave that they were sitting around.

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Speaker 5: Some of them were just studying, because in the morning.

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Speaker 1: That's that's when I like to study.

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Speaker 2: Three in the morning, outdoors, in the middle of a riot,

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Speaker 4: That is just the study time that groups.

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Speaker 5: Every time officers would push towards them, they would run backwards,

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Speaker 5: and ultimately they ended up on the campus line here,

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Speaker 5: if you will, out to the just basically off campus,

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Speaker 5: run with that many people. Do you have any more stuff?

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Speaker 5: Because I guess you know what. I talked to a

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Speaker 5: guy and I vetted out his page. He infiltrated the

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Speaker 5: he saw inside. This guy's followed by Megan Kelly, some

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Speaker 5: big names at Fox News. Some of these tweets he's

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Speaker 5: got from inside have gone viral. He gave me a

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Speaker 5: saw when he snuck in by counterintelligence. Huh, Well, he's

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Speaker 5: so young. I thought he was a student. I was

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Speaker 5: just out trying to interview students.

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Speaker 4: He looks like one. I assume that's how he got in.

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Speaker 2: He found a spy. You found found an infiltrainer. We

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Speaker 2: found an infiltrator. All right, Blake Trolley with his infiltrator

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Speaker 2: coming up from KFI News. As we continue enjoying the

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Speaker 2: coverage of the u c l A riots this week.

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Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am

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Speaker 8: six forty.

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Speaker 2: We are talking with Blake Trolley at KFI. He was

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Speaker 2: up in the middle of the night to witness and

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Speaker 2: cover the u c A riots, another another evening of

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Speaker 2: followed around, As he explained, the police broke up the

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Speaker 2: very large contingent and protesters into smaller contingents, and Blake

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Speaker 2: latched onto one and started interviewing some of the participants.

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Speaker 1: So, now, who what do you have next here?

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 5: Actually, before we get into the guy that infiltrated the camp,

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Speaker 5: and he did that on Sunday. I do want to

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Speaker 5: go to the last We'll go to this woman. She

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Speaker 5: says that she is a professor from a college out

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Speaker 5: on the East Coast. She was here with her husband.

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Speaker 5: I saw them behind the protest line. I thought they

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Speaker 5: were just protesters. She said, Oh, are you a protester?

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Speaker 5: She said, no, I'm a professor. I said, oh, here

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Speaker 5: at UCLA. She said, no, school on the East Coast.

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Speaker 5: And here's what she had to say. She was here

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Speaker 5: to support these students.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I was walking around, I'm looking for I'm

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Speaker 2: Were they really I thought it was so that they

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Speaker 1: And maybe targeted by the police.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the things I've heard, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: I think from twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: behind the organization. Blake, thanks very much, excellent recording. I

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Speaker 1: It is not innocent.

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Speaker 2: Students exercising their First Amendment right, It's nowhere close to that,

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Speaker 2: And people who've been covering this stuff for years know it,

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Speaker 1: You've done that, You've been threatening that.

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Speaker 1: Aren't you. You're still upside down from your trip.

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Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 2: So like, if you have the time, you know, here

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Speaker 2: who realize, oh, I can make money at this, which

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Speaker 2: is what I'm getting to and it also gives you

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Speaker 2: a purpose in life. Either you're a true believer and

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Speaker 2: you think you're making the world better, or you're an

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Speaker 2: opportunist who realize is you know, I can get some

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Speaker 2: stature and I can get paid. And maybe I believe

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Speaker 2: in this or maybe I don't, it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 2: It's like I know how to do it. You know

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Speaker 2: a lot of people and they realize they know how

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Speaker 2: to do something, even if it's not their first love

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Speaker 2: in life. It's like, yeah, I'm gonna do this. This

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Speaker 2: is gonna pay the bill. I'm going to get a

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Speaker 2: comfortable life out of this. So that's all coming together

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Speaker 2: behind these leftist groups. The modern modern version of this

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Speaker 2: really started to my mind around twenty eleven Occupy Wall

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Speaker 2: Street we called it Occupy here, and it was in

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Speaker 2: the run up to the Obama reelection, with Romney as

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Speaker 2: the likely candidate against him. A way to highlight that

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Speaker 2: Romney was one of these super wealthy money manipulators who

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Speaker 2: cared nothing for the common man. And it was coming

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Speaker 2: off a few years after the huge Wall Street scandal,

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Speaker 2: the mortgage debacle. A lot of people lost their jobs,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people lost their homes, and there was

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Speaker 2: a real receptive audience to the idea that yeah, Wall

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Speaker 2: Street is a rigged.

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Speaker 1: Game, and it is to some extent, and that.

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Speaker 2: You know, people manipulated the system and eventually came crashing down.

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Speaker 2: Nobody from Wall Street went to went to jail, but

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Speaker 2: lots of people lost their jobs and lots of people

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Speaker 2: lost their homes, and that is all true because capitalism

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Speaker 2: is not a perfect system, and human beings are greedy

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Speaker 2: and manipulative and some of them are evils, so that

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Speaker 2: that's all true, So that that's their belief system.

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Speaker 1: And then they realized, wow, this got a lot of attention.

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Speaker 2: We all pitched tents, remember they did this at City

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Speaker 2: Hall while vera Grocer's. They pitched tents.

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Speaker 1: And they they were crapping all over the place.

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Speaker 2: One theme in all these uh, all these protests, you'll

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Speaker 2: see it come back over and over again is is

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Speaker 2: Feces is a big part of all this stuff. Like

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Speaker 2: Blake was talking, you know, they had they had poop

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Speaker 2: tents at U c l A. You had, you had,

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Speaker 2: you had lots of feces at the occupy movement. Feces

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Speaker 2: is a major part of the movement to allow homeless

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Speaker 2: people to take over the street. There there there is

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Speaker 2: a connection between the occupy movement and twenty eleven and

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Speaker 2: this massive hysterical homeless industry that has developed. And what

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Speaker 2: is it about people intents? What is it about this protest?

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Speaker 2: People intense because you can cover a lot of territory

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Speaker 2: by pitching tents.

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Speaker 1: You can create a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Quite a blockade. It's about, you know, grabbing control of land.

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Speaker 2: Like any war is is who's got the land, Who's

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Speaker 2: got control? Well, these groups.

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Speaker 1: Occupy.

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Speaker 2: Then we had the first iteration of Black Lives Matter,

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Speaker 2: after the Ferguson Missouri case, you know, hands up, don't shoot,

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Speaker 2: which was built on a line. Then Trump gets elected,

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Speaker 2: you had these anti Trump demonstrations, you had climate change demonstrations,

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Speaker 2: George Floyd, the second iteration of black Lives Matter. Then

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Speaker 2: last year what was the issue was trans issues? And

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Speaker 2: now it's Israel and I'm listening to this guy and

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Speaker 2: I'll talk more about it when I come back. He's

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Speaker 2: on Fox Dunes and I'm going to try We're going

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Speaker 2: to try to get him on. I just got his

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Speaker 2: first name. Paul came in a little bit late in

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Speaker 2: the interview, but Paul says, I know these people. I've

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Speaker 2: been covering them since Occupy Wall Street in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: He's some kind of investigator and he says, it's all

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Speaker 2: the same people, and it's an industry, and it's a

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Speaker 2: way to make money. It's professionalized. It has become a

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Speaker 2: major weapon that can be used against people in government,

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Speaker 2: against businesses, you know, against just basic civilization. Tell you

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Speaker 2: more about it when we come back.

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Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 8: six forty.

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Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock, Debor's News. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about well more on more on these protests and

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Speaker 2: the behind the scenes story. Brad Garrett, he's the ABC

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Speaker 2: News Crime and Terrorism analyst, and he's going to talk

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Speaker 2: about how these protests started and why they're difficult to

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Speaker 2: stop and uh, the outside ADJECTI component that I've been

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Speaker 2: talking about. Brad Garrett coming up after two o'clock. So

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Speaker 2: just to finish up here the protests, I'm there was

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Speaker 2: this expert on Fox, and I've got some other sources

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Speaker 2: on this as well. These are the same people, many

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Speaker 2: of them, that have been putting on protests for let's

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Speaker 2: call it the last thirteen years of the modern era,

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Speaker 2: and from Occupy to BLM, to George Floyd, to climate

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Speaker 2: change to trends and now it's Israel. Homeless activists have

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Speaker 2: picked up a lot of these tactics as well. It

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Speaker 2: always involves tents, it always involves poop, It involves belligerents,

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Speaker 2: It involves a lot of the jimboree behavior, you know,

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Speaker 2: chanting rhymes. Usually what they're saying is incoherent and crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's based on a lot of aggression and emotion, and

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Speaker 2: they go to classes for this. The whole industry is professionalized.

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Speaker 2: According to this analyst I saw on Fox, and he said,

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Speaker 2: in New York City alone, there are one thousand non

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Speaker 2: profits five oh one three c nonprofits involved in activism.

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Speaker 1: They get funded, They get funded big time.

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Speaker 2: You know. Now there are many more billions and trillions

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Speaker 2: of dollars floating around because of all the tech money

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Speaker 2: in the world and all the investment hedge fund titans,

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Speaker 2: people like George Soros, a lot of tech billionaires, and

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Speaker 2: they want to make their mark on changing society. For

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, they fund these groups. There's plenty of money.

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Speaker 2: So what they do is they find college students who

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Speaker 2: want to get in the game, and they get trained

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Speaker 2: and they do what you've seen at UCLA this week.

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Speaker 2: After they get out of college, especially if they've been

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Speaker 2: expelled suspended, they then become professional agitators and organizers and

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Speaker 2: organized protests over whatever the issue of the day is.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the issue doesn't really matter. The point

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Speaker 2: is to create disruption in society. The point is to

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Speaker 2: get people fighting with each other to provide distraction. It's

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Speaker 2: to block traffic, it's to block school, it's to block things.

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Speaker 2: It's to make life unhappy in America. And so they

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Speaker 2: like any television show, right, you need new material every year,

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Speaker 2: you need a new production. So this year's production is

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Speaker 2: Reel Gaza. Last year's production was trans the year before

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Speaker 2: that was climate change, the year before that's George Flood.

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Speaker 2: It's just material, that's all it is. And they manipulate

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Speaker 2: social media. Social media works great at infiltrating the minds

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Speaker 2: of young people. They've already infiltrated the university system. The

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Speaker 2: university system now takes its students based on well, first

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Speaker 2: of all, a lot of the elite colleges don't use

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Speaker 2: SATs anymore, so the intelligence factor has been removed. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: it's dei stuff, all right, And so what you have are.

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Speaker 1: Like in this case, you're taking a.

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Speaker 2: Dispute that's gone on for thousands and thousands of years.

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Speaker 2: Now it's here because we've brought in so many people

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Speaker 2: from overseas, from the Middle East. Well, they brought their

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Speaker 2: grievances and feuds and wars with them. So now on

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Speaker 2: a college campus, what do we have here? We have

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Speaker 2: Israelis fighting Palestinians. It's been imported, you know, the way

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Speaker 2: leaving the border open has brought the Mexican drug cartels

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Speaker 2: to our country and we have to deal with that

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Speaker 2: on the streets as well. We don't take people anymore.

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Speaker 2: You can get into any humanities program now there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of garbage degrees going on, and we know what

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00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: the garbage degrees are. Usually ends with the word study.

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00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of gender and ethnic studies and various

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Speaker 2: offshoots of that. And when you graduate, what are you

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Speaker 2: going to do with it? There's nothing you could do

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Speaker 2: with it. But one of the industries you can get

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Speaker 2: in is the protest industry, so you can make money,

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Speaker 2: You teach the next class of kids, and you spread

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Speaker 2: your influence. You infiltrate more colleges, more cities, and make

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Speaker 2: life difficult for ordinary Americans. This is done on purpose.

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Speaker 2: This is funded by rich people who want to see

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Speaker 2: all this happen. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's your

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Speaker 2: reality that you're living in it. There's no other explanation

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Speaker 2: for all this. There's no other explanation to have these

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Speaker 2: kinds of protests that shut down traffic, that shut down business,

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Speaker 2: that shut down life, that go on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: It's all got tense. It's all got this.

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Speaker 2: It's like the same production company over and over again

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Speaker 2: with their same they're they're saying taglines and they that's

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Speaker 2: what's going on. But it's it's not students primarily exercising

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Speaker 2: the First Amendment rights. It's professional organizations wanting to disrupt

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Speaker 2: our lives. And you think the university presidents would know this,

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Speaker 2: And you know what, maybe they do, and they don't care.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they have the same belief too, and they hate

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Speaker 2: America and they hate capitalism, they hate our way of life.

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Speaker 2: We stole the country from the dative Americans, we we

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Speaker 2: enslaved blacks and the whole rest of it. And maybe

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Speaker 2: that's what they really believe, and that they want to

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Speaker 2: do their part by lending their land at uc LA

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Speaker 2: over to the good cause. And then when it finally

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Speaker 2: gets out of hand and it looks like people are

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Speaker 2: going to die and they're going to get their asses sued,

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Speaker 2: it's like, all right, all right, we'll call them the police.

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Speaker 2: It's not that I don't even think that they're anti police.

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Speaker 2: I think what they want is they want the mayhem.

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Speaker 2: They want the trouble. This is what they think America deserves.

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Speaker 2: And they're trying to wake up all you boring suburban

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Speaker 2: people who are ignoring all the issues and all the

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Speaker 2: history that America has created, all the terrible things that's

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Speaker 2: done in the past, all the terrible things it's doing now.

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Speaker 1: How else to shake you up?

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Speaker 2: And by having a riot on your TV screens every night,

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Speaker 2: it's programming, it's emotional manipulation. There's nothing any of US

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Speaker 2: can do about Israel and Gaza. Nothing, especially these protesters. Nothing.

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Speaker 2: It's an issue that we have zero influence over.

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Speaker 1: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: You can vote for Biden. He is sending in plenty

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Speaker 2: of money and plenty of weaponry. Trump is going to

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Speaker 2: send even more money and more weaponry, so it doesn't

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Speaker 2: even affect the election at all because Israel is going

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Speaker 2: to do what it's going to do. This is programming,

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Speaker 2: all right, we come back Brad Garrett from ABC News. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You

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