WEBVTT - Ep18 Dai Yoshihara 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.280 Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Car Stories 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:08.840 with Sun. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:10.320 King and Amelia Hartford. 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:13.360 And today we get to talk to our dear friend 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:17.800 Die Yoshihara, living legend, his story of how he came 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:19.840 to the United States, how he got into drifting. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.439 Yeah, it's a story about where he came from nothing, 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.800 having moved from Japan, coming to the US, winning a 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:31.040 championship and more than that, he raises gript driving, has 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.879 done Pike's Peak, which is a famous mountain course in 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.360 Colorado Springs, and he's. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:38.360 Just so zen. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.160 You know, he just has this piece about him and 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.640 it's very hard for him to talk about himself and 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.280 maybe that's the Japanese thing. But having this conversation to 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.120 hear his story, you learn about why the community respects 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:51.720 him so much. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.120 Yeah, and I think a good takeaway is to treat 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:56.280 others with kindness. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.000 Yeah, and then you'll be able to surround yourself with 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.000 the people that that will help you pursue your dreamy. So, 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:11.399 without further ado, mister Dai Yoshihara, So let's talk about 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.600 your your origins with drifting. Yeah, can you tell us 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.200 how you started and where'd you learn it? Like, where'd 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.880 you fall? In love with it. How you became a 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.039 professional jurist driver. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.000 It's kind of long story, but uh, you know, I'm 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.360 from Japan and I was one of those street racer 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.199 back in the days. But also I've been always looking 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.720 up to US culture ever since I watched Top Gun, 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.720 like back in that was eighty six, but I watched 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.520 the movie like maybe early nineties. But anyway, it's like 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.400 those are two like my interests, like driving and you know, 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:52.000 US culture. Right after Fast Inferiors in Japan spoke compact 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.760 culture was kind of popping. It's kind of like a 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:59.920 us DM custom cars, not just like a you know, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:01.760 like drift cars or anything like that. It's more like 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.120 Honters and so basically the cars from the past and furious. 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:09.520 So around that time, I was like really into that. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.760 And then I met the guy from the US and 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.120 who did the car show in the US at the time, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.520 and he's like, oh, maybe drifting will be the next thing, 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.919 And I took me to the Japanese Mountain Road. 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.920 He really liked it. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.800 A few months later he invited me to compete in 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.880 the US drifting competition. 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.200 That was my beginning. So can you give us your 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:39.919 history of your first car. Were you always into cars 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.919 growing up? And like where did you learn how to drive? 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.240 Because and also togay for the listening audience, can you 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.840 first let's explain what togay is. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:54.440 Okay, So togay is basically a mountain roll. So yeah, 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.760 I will stay tokay as a Kenyon road, I guess. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.800 So my first car was eighty to eighty six Corolla 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.280 and yeah, I always wanted to, you know, get a 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.720 car ever since I was a kid. So as soon 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.880 as I get a driver license, I already had the car, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.680 which was two hundred bucks. And then just every now 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:20.040 I just put like ten ten liter gas because gas 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.200 is the most expensive thing, you know, at the time 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.960 for me, So just put like a ten litter which 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.800 is like four garrow maybe, and then just drive mountain 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.360 all night until it gets empty and then come back. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:38.800 So that's how I practice myself, maybe like a year 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.200 or so. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:44.640 So you're self taught pretty much. Really, Yeah that's crazy. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.760 Yeah wow, Well but I watched a lot of videos. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:54.320 One of the popular one is the Drift Bible from 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:59.720 ka Who is who is people called drifting? 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.160 Maybe you guys can explain who he is? Kg Suchiya 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.120 is he's actually in Tokyo Drift yes, all right, so 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.440 he is essentially known as the drift King. And he 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:17.119 started driving the A eighty six when he was young. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:22.000 And there's a manga called Initial D very famous manga, 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.440 and it's about this character Takumi that lives in the 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.599 Togay mountains and he delivers Tofu and he was a 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.960 consultant on this manga. And that's why this you know, 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:37.559 nineteen eighty five eighty six Hachiroku Corola A eighty six 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:41.920 has become the grandfather of drift cars, right, and so 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.359 Suchiya san is still alive, and he would be like 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.560 the Michael Jordan of drifting. All right, that's a very 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.040 good way to say. Yeah, I mean, did he inspire 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.960 you to get the A eighty six? Was he like 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:55.359 a hero of yours? Yes? 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.480 Yes, I mean at the time I didn't really like 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.320 it was like more like no choice because it was 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.919 super cheap. It's not like this is a car I 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.880 wanted to drive back in the days, right, But now 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:12.039 this is still my favorite cars just because that's the 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.839 car I learned how to drive. But yeah, so for sure, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.240 suggestn't helped a lot of people to you know, knowing 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.760 this car, it's so different and be inspired. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.800 Yeah, Now where are you from in Japan? 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.559 I'm from Tokyo but east I'm sorry, west side of Tokyo, 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.320 which is a little bit countryside in a way, so 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.680 it's pretty easy to access to the togi which is 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:37.520 a canyon roads. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:40.320 Which toga would you drive? 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:45.000 I have a few different, but it's called those togi 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.039 and then old that me. 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.800 So is that like saying Mulholland canyon out there much? 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.960 Yeah? Yeah, so there's a few in the area, so 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.680 just go there, like and. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.800 Would you drift or would you just drive really fast? 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:04.040 I did drift specifically in the beginning. Now is it 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:09.120 Are there a lot of police up there? Yeah? I 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.560 don't know if this kind of touchy subject, but because 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.320 I think we should say like no street driving, right absolutely, 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.400 But yeah, back in the days there's a. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:18.960 Lot of cops. 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.960 But you know, we of course run away, and here 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.560 in japan's a little different like here, I think it's 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:33.760 more more crazy, but Japan, like if you run away, 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.599 then I don't think most police will really chase you 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.159 too hard because it's it gets dangerous for the driver 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.599 and then other people as well, right, so they just 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.800 let you go you know where. But also we never 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.200 really do, you know, when you have a lot of 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.800 traffic with a lot of people around. So I mean 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.560 there's a you know, a few people do that too, 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.040 but most of the time I try to pick most 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:02.359 like like quiet like thing around no home, so trying 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.960 not to like, you know, kissed people off kind. 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:06.920 Of thing, not to like disturb the piece. 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:11.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very Japanese. Yeah, I guess you're 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:16.320 breaking the law, but you're doing it. What drew you 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:22.960 to start drifting opposed to like drag racing or track racing, 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.560 track driving? Like what was the thing that called to 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.600 you to become a drifter? 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.480 So before I get a driver's license, I got a 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.240 I was riding a motorcycle. In Japan, you get the 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:41.640 license driver's license when you get eighteen, but you you 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:46.160 can get a motorcycle license at sixteen. So those two years, 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.840 I was riding a motorcycle and I was riding on 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.000 the mountain one night and then I just saw the 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.400 call is drifting coming at me, which is kind of 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.160 kind of scary, but it was so cool to see that, 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.160 and from that moment, I'm like I have to do this. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:07.360 So that's how I got into it. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.480 Was that car in a eighty six. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.760 No, I can't remember what was, but it was super 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.040 cool moment, right, So and then I started like watching 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.200 those videos and kind of like study the culture. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.440 What did your parents think about you getting into cars 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.160 and pursuing this like journey and. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.880 Yeah, of course they were like a typical parents, so 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.120 they didn't like it at all. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.880 A long time. What were they hoping you were going 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:35.680 to do with your life, just. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.760 Like the regular stuff, like, you know, go to the 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.440 college and you know what got I don't know, like 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.840 some cool big company or something like that. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.200 What did your parents do for work? 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:51.080 Actually, my dad was working with his brother who had 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:55.880 the used car dealer. Okay, so he likes cars as well, 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.760 so he kind of understood. But at the same time 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.560 he was key telling me like just get the you know, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.040 normal job and kind of things. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:08.440 So, so, how did they feel about you coming to 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.440 the United States and giving up your life in Japan? 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.120 I mean, for the for our listeners too, I'd love 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.160 you to maybe share like that journey of how you 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.640 ended up in America, right, because it is like an 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.840 almost an American dream. Success story. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.839 Yeah, well, so kind of back to what I told 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.640 you guys, I had one chance to come to the 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.280 stage to compete for drifting. So actually a guy named 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.920 Kim Yoshi who had the car show back in the days, 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.520 and he you know back in the days. Of course, 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.520 I didn't have money, so he got me a ticket 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.360 to fly here, and he got me a place to stay, 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.400 which is his house. And then I did one competition 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.920 and I did pretty good. I got like top eight, 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.520 So that kind of opened up my opportunity. And back 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:59.080 back then, I was working for used car dealer in Japan, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.600 but I thought that was a good opportunity. So after 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.120 that I quit the job and then I started coming 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.400 to the States, but of course I didn't have a visa, 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:09.960 so I have to stay here for like two months 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.640 and go back to Japan. I was basically back in 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.680 a fall at what it was, I was twenty four 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:23.680 and then slowly getting sponsors and stuff, and maybe a 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.480 few months after a former drift just started. So that 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.400 was back in two thousand and three, and then Formula 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.679 D was started at the two thousand and four and 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:37.440 I got sponsors and the team to compete for the season. 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.640 So that was kind of a second chance, and I 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.640 just keep back in forth and yeah, it's a long 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.520 story show. Four years after I finally got a visa 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.840 and then around that time, finally I was able to 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.840 make some money. And so that's kind of like when 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.199 I'm like, Okay, this is my this is going to 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.800 be my career. Until then, I wasn't even sure. And 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.160 then back to your question, my parents are like, what 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.880 the hell you're doing. They understand that I like cars 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:12.160 a and I like the US, but they didn't think 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.959 it's going to be a career. So it was kind 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.800 of tough time to be honest. 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.680 Yeah, So when you say sponsors, like, because I have 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.280 no experience on like what it takes to get a sponsor, right, 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.560 And do they pay? Do they give you a salary 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.200 so you're able to like pay rent and eat or 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:34.160 do they just pay for your racing season to maintain 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.199 the car? Like how does that work? Especially when you're 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:40.480 starting out right to do a race, it's going to 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.880 cost you, right. So I was driving for a team 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:48.240 the team called Pacific RIM. So some are just the part. 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:49.840 For example, like the tires. 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.439 I was sponsored by Yokohama Tire back in the day, 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.240 so they surprise tires and then some company give you 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.880 some budget as well, so those are like the beginning 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.280 of the drifting. And then I think slowly the dollar 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.680 amount got bigger so that the left doorver will be 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.320 the team owners salary. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.080 I guess, yeah, so you're not making money really for 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.760 a long time, a long time. Now, Yeah, there are 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.760 professional drifters today actually making a good living. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.199 I wouldn't say all of them. Maybe in the States 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.360 is still one of the biggest series, so I think 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.320 maybe half who we're making some money. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.720 So then how do they actually stay competitive with the 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.920 guys that are making money? What do they do? 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.240 Yeah, so that's kind of like a tough part of 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.400 you know competition, right, because if you're good, you get 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:42.559 more support, so yeah, you can get even better. But 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.920 if you don't have a supports, it's hard for you 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.320 to improve for you know, doing a practice and getting 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:52.080 better cars. It just everything is cost you, right. I think, 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.280 you know a lot of new guys and watching the 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.680 Formula drift drift these days, a lot of new talented 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:02.920 driver and they're doing good. So I think eventually they're 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.679 going to get bigger sponsors, and then that's how you 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:07.520 kind of rotate. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:07.959 I guess. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:08.439 Mm. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.760 A lot of drivers also on top of driving, do 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.760 they not also run their own businesses to try to 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.880 help supplement the cost, right. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.040 Right, So I think that's a lot of a lot 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.240 of people like that. If they have a shop, they 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:27.160 have a brand, and that's kind of like, yeah, offset 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.200 some of the cost of doing the race. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.280 So when you moved over to America, did you experience 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.480 America being what you thought it was going to be 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.839 in your head? Yeah, I guess so, yeah, Yeah, it 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.800 was it easy transition. No, no, because I couldn't really 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.200 I mean, I still I'm not really good at English, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.680 but even worse back in the day, so it was 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.720 hard to even communicate. Just to go to drive through, 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.040 you know, it took me a while to order some 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.280 stuff that I wanted to But yeah, it was really 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:00.360 cool to be here. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.280 But at the same time, I think at one point 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.360 also I realized, you know, Japan is such a cool 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.200 country too, Like you know, sometimes you kind of like 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.840 look back and kind of see from the outside. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.120 It's like a different perspective. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.320 And yeah, I remember, like one time I was like, oh, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.040 maybe I should go back to Japan. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:20.640 How come we never went back. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.360 Yeah, I don't know why, but yeah, that was like 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.800 one of the phase. And then after a while, I'm 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:31.000 now I'm more comfortable in a state. So it's been 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.840 like fourteen fifteen years since I moved to the states. 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.120 Now and you started a family now right right? 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:38.680 Right? Yeah? 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:39.840 How many how many kids? 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:40.080 Ye? 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:40.840 Two boys? 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:42.240 How old are there? 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:44.040 Eight and a five? 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:45.320 Are they into driving? 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:46.600 Not really? 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.280 No, you know, And I'm not really trying to push 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.520 them to do it neither. And again it's you know, 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.840 it's an expensive hobby and it's really hard to make 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.560 living out of it, So I don't want to push them. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.600 If they want to do it, I would try to 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.960 support as much as I can, but it's not cheap. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.560 Yeah, the saying is in racing, it takes a big 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:10.960 fortune to make a small one. 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:11.480 Yeah. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.960 But you know, die, you're fairly still very young. Like 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.480 why did you retire? Like how old are you? Like 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:19.920 forty forty five? 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:20.480 Yeah? 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.560 I mean that is that like way beyond like the 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.200 prime of a drift drivers? Like is that why you retired? 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.920 Like I don't understand why you retired. When you announced 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.400 your retirement, I was like, where's it going? That's I 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:33.960 gonna do. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.080 So I retire from Formula Drift, one of the biggest 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:43.240 drifting series in the world, and I've done since day 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:47.840 one and it's been eighteen years for me, so you know, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.360 I'm doing the same thing for a long. 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.560 Time, and I kind of wanted to change it up. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:55.560 So, I mean, I still love drifting driving wise, but 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.680 the format of competition. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:15:59.960 You knows, there's. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.080 A lot lot of stuff going on like sponsors and 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.360 judges and everything. So I kind of wanted to stay 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.600 away for a little bit at least and see what 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.520 the other opportunity. So, for example, I did a movie 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:18.000 as a stunt driver last year and then with you. Yeah, 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.120 that wouldn't happen if I was still competing in the 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.440 Formula dred because you know, like we're on a shoe 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.680 for like a few months, yeah, and you. 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.080 Can be out for that long. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.720 Like, once you're into this in a series, you have 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.680 to commit, right. 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.960 And bless your heart, you were telling me when you're 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.320 out there that you go straight from the movie to 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.840 then go back for Sema for a car that you built, 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.360 to then go to another project, right right. Definitely keeping 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.520 busy with with a lot of things yeah. 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:53.160 So, yeah, those are actually kind of new thing to me. So, yeah, 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.360 how was your experience like working on a movie? It 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:57.200 was super cool. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.280 One of the coolest experience as I had, especially that 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.880 was a racing movie, so like on the truck, driving 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.800 with a lot of people, and every single day on 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.879 the race car and getting paid. 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:28.320 That was super dope. People think, like, you know, they 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.080 watch a movie, they think, like all the driving stuff 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.560 must be so fun, but there's a lot of waiting around. 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.800 Oh yeah, it is kind of boring at times. 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:37.680 So the sayings, hurry up and wait right now. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.879 Yeah, but I think this movie was one of the 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.760 fun one because this was my first movie. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.560 I've done many commercials, but. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:47.920 This was your first movie. 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:48.840 Yeah for the movie? 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.359 Yeah, really, I don't know that. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.040 Yeah, so that was super cool. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.760 But I worked with a lot of the movie industry 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.200 stunt drivers, the guys that done so many like Fast 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.280 Inferiors and all the big movies. But they say this movie, 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.520 the one we did was really fun to do because 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:09.120 not so much waiting. Pretty much every day was driving, 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.600 so and once we were off, like a couple of 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.920 days off and just don't even go to the set. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.120 We had some free times and stuff like that. Did 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:18.280 you get to drive in the movie? 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:18.960 I did not? 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:19.960 You didn't, no. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.320 I so how they shot it? And I imagine they've 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.280 done things similar for Fast was there was a cage 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.200 on the roof of the car and there'd be a 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.679 driver on the roof controlling everything and the gas steering 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.359 and put and then I'm an actor in the driver's 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.320 sept and I can't see in front of me because 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.240 they have like screens to protect light from being too 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.000 harsh on the face, and a bunch of cameras and 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.600 I'm turning the steering wheel trying not to get nauseous, 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.680 acting like I'm driving when there's actually a driver on 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:48.480 the roof of the car. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:49.879 How did that feel? Actually? 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:54.440 I was curious about that, especially you know how to drive. Yeah, 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.680 it seems like it's hard to act because you don't 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.600 know what really the car is going to do. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:18:58.960 Right. 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:05.359 It was definitely nauseating, And there'd be times where the 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.080 director would be like, all right, someone's passing you on 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:11.280 your right, and because you can hear everything, the director 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.399 in our case, Neil blomb Camp, was saying, yeah, but 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.120 maybe it wasn't natural and racing for someone to pass 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.600 you on the right in this turn, so you'd still 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.679 be acting that's the job. But as a driver, you're like, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.439 but no one would pass me on the right. This 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:25.240 doesn't make sense. 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.560 It was like perfect casting to have Amelia in that movie, right, 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.080 But it's frustrating that you don't get to actually drive. Yeah, 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:34.440 did you tell them you drive? 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:34.879 Oh? 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:39.000 They trust me. I tried to let them. I wanted 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:40.520 to drive the cage car. I wanted to be on 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.320 the roof and get to drive, do donuts, no matter. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:46.399 Something for the listening audience. A cage car that you 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.000 want to kind of explain what that is. 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.280 Yeah, it's it's basically where the driver's sitting on the roof. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:55.080 Nowadays throttle and break. It was an automatic car, so 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.720 throttle and brake are now it's called drive by wire. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.879 It's basically electronics, so they can move the pedals wherever 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.560 they want on the car and it still does the 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.720 same thing as if it were in the car and 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.439 someone's just driving on top of the roof with steering wheel, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:12.359 and you have a steering wheel that doesn't really do 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:13.840 anything on the inside. 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.280 And they have to make like seven versions of the 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.919 car because they you know, they if you need like 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:21.800 a rear view, they cut the back of the car, 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.679 They cut the roof of the car. Sometimes the cars 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:26.879 like lift it up onto like a frame and then 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.640 the camera's on the floor to get all these reactions right. 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.840 And it's funny because people, you know, they meet me 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.000 and they go because of the fast and fears movies, 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.480 they just assume that I'm this, i'mute, like I. 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.520 Can drift, and then what do you mean you can't? 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.520 But the movies make it look like I know what 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.879 I'm doing right, But it's all pretending. So I mean 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.040