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Discord the majority of the questions 39 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: come From, discord and for the overwhelming majority of, them 40 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: they are off season. Related there are some things THAT 41 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: i want to play catch up. On we never really 42 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: got to dive into The Tony vitello, thing and somebody 43 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: asked A Tony vitello, question AND i do want to 44 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: spend some time on. THAT i also have something off 45 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: the top that has been. Reported it hasn't been officially 46 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: announced yet by the, organization but we will hit on 47 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 2: that in a. Moment Arm, layton you accited a mail bag. 48 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: Man it's been a minute since we were able to mail. 49 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: Bag peter loves these, episodes so he almost hoards. 50 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: Them. 51 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah HE i was surprised he allowed us uh to 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: do one while he's while he's away. Here. UH i 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: assume the news you're alluding to is uh, my My 54 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: Carlos hernandez report that he signed back with The guardians 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: on a minor league. 56 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: Deal, no it wasn't Your Carlos. Hernandez the team has 57 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: yet to. 58 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: Confirm I'm i'm getting. Worried, yeah it's two point. 59 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: H there were a couple others The Red sox Confirmed Jason. 60 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: Delay is that? 61 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: RIGHT i hope they confirmed. IT i think the transition 62 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: see these, deals it's really a matter for. Me These 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: i'm just trying to beat the transaction like machine over, 64 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: there like just just the what do you call, it 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: like where just basically you're just gonna get it automatically 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: on THE mlb transaction like portal or, whatever the transaction. 67 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: Log IT'S i just have to beat the transgil of the. 68 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: LOG i just have to beat the transaction. Log that 69 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: just sounds. 70 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: WEIRD i almost always have an idea of. Things you, 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: know typically you see things reported before they get to trade. 72 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: Rumors Trade rumors is almost never breaking a transaction to, 73 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: me but it was funny yesterday it had to just 74 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: be this weird date in the baseball. Calendar Trade rumors 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: was breaking news to me left and right where MAYBE 76 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: i wasn't attached to my phone the way THAT i typically, 77 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: am but they were just on, like, okay this person, 78 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: cleared this person. CLEARED i had no idea or EVEN, Dfa. 79 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah they're on, it. Dude they've got the transaction 80 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: log fired. Up the second hits the transaction. Log Trade 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: rumors has got. It SO i just got to beat 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: the transaction. Log and that's Where i'm you, know just 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: just digging for some low HANGING i was just gonna 84 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: say some kind of just lower end options, here but that, 85 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: HEY i of the reports that we've been able to break, 86 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: Here Carlos hernandez might be on the upper rational on 87 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: of innings pitched for signings. 88 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: That you would think so able to break at the 89 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: big league. Level but, UH i think the leader is 90 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: Still Alex. Reyes but we'll, See, YEAH i, HOPE i 91 00:04:59,160 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: hope he gives it a. 92 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: Shot we shall see a lot of good stuff and 93 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: somebody that will be active on the transaction. 94 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: Front is actually WHAT i want to lead. With the 95 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: thing that is sourced but not officially confirmed just. Yet 96 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: The rockies apparently have their, guy and The rockies new 97 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: head of baseball, operations according To Ken rosenthal And Jeff 98 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: passens said they were very close to the one yard 99 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: line Is paul De. Podesta if that name rings a, 100 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: Bell Jonah hill was based Around PAUL. D. Podesta paul 101 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: De podesta Is Peter brand From. Moneyball this guy started 102 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: as an intern Under Mark schapiro and The Cleveland. Indians 103 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: then he, Escalated he climbed the ranks in the scouting. 104 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: Department Billy bean brought him on in the early to 105 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: mid two thousands to be his ASSISTANT gm is number. 106 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: Two PAUL. D, podesta since twenty, sixteen has been the 107 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: chief strategy officer for The Cleveland. Browns that's not A 108 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Major league baseball, team that's AN nfl football, team. 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: And that's that's a smart. 110 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: Team The Cleveland browns over. There are they running With 111 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: Dylan gabriel? Again or is It shadoor? Time what's going on? 112 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: THERE i think just way For Deshaun watson to come. 113 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: Back paul De podesta is the higher they. Were you're 114 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: breaking this to, me by the, way, TOO i missed, 115 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: this LIKE i. WAS i just Finished Met's Top. PROSPECTS 116 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: i went to go grab a coffee AND i didn't 117 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: even see this. 118 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 4: Yet so you're getting my genuine reaction. 119 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: Here, Yeah rockies have a new reported head, again it 120 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: is not officially announced, yet but they were sniffing around 121 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: in some really good. ORGANIZATIONS i saw that guy At Amiel. 122 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: SAUDE i might have butchered that, name but one of 123 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: the assistant gms that Are Mike hazen And arizona was a. 124 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: Candidate they had a couple other very smart people as, 125 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: candidates And paul De podesta is clearly a very smart. 126 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: Person he's just been out of baseball for about ten, 127 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: years and now he's back and he's heading The Colorado. 128 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: Rockies it's one thing to be out of. Baseball it's 129 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: another thing to be out of baseball in football with 130 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: another organization that has been incredibly. Inept AND i don't 131 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: know the dynamics of the football side of, That LIKE 132 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: i don't know how that all. 133 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: Works but he has a pretty significant leadership role, there 134 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: as you alluded. 135 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: To and. 136 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: They are comically bad in terms of the way that they. 137 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: Operate so guy removed from, Baseball guy that is not 138 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: doing a very good. Job at least his organization was 139 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: not doing a very good. Job and it just is 140 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: also So rockies because you almost just feel like they 141 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: were Reading uh they were just the Mond forts were 142 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: just like reading money. Balancing oh wow is? 143 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: That? 144 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah where is this? Guy he must be with The. Dodgers, 145 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: wait he's with The. Browns we can bring him. 146 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: Back he was the lead decision maker for The La 147 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: dodgers at thirty one years. Old he jumped From oakland 148 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: to The dodgers at thirty. One his famous transaction had 149 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: to do With Paul laducah and breaking up kind of 150 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: the clubhouse dynamic Of Paul laduka being the leader of 151 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: The dodgers in the mid to late two, thousands so 152 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: he's already done THE gm. Thing at thirty one years, 153 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: old he was one of the youngest general managers in 154 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: the history Of Major League. Baseball then he went to, 155 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: football and here he is back in the freaking show 156 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: with The Colorado. 157 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: Rockies, YEAH i, mean we'll give him a chance, here 158 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: we'll see what. Happens it just is Very rockies to 159 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: go with the guy that, is you, know kind of 160 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: famous from a movie and a. Book and we'll. 161 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 4: See he's earned a, lot. 162 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: Famous for being what famous for being a disciple Of Bill, james, 163 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: right famous for being almost too analytically driven to the 164 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 2: point where you kind of lost the scouting. Department and 165 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: they made a major motion picture that Won oscars based 166 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: on saber metrics and. Analytics SO i guarantee you The 167 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: rockies looked at this and, SAID i want the analytics. 168 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 2: Guy and they looked around the league over the last 169 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: two decades and said who is the analytics? Guy and 170 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: they stumbled upon the chief strategy officer for The Cleveland 171 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: Brown SO i could appreciate the analytically driven approach to 172 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: hiring a lead decision. Maker but it is funny that 173 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: they found the guy that was in the. Movie and here's. 174 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: The thing, Too and last Thing i'll mention is baseball 175 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: has changed as much in the last ten years as 176 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: it probably has in the last forty. Years so there 177 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: is a lot For deepotesta to like get tapped. Into 178 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: and maybe he has, been you, know, MAYBE i know 179 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: he has a trillion contacts and Baseball, Still i'm sure 180 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: he's gonna assemble a really good. Team but being at 181 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: a baseball for a, decade like you got to catch 182 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 3: up quick, here and it's gonna be. INTERESTING i, mean step, 183 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: one create a stuff plus model for your internal organization 184 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: so that you're not the only team In Major League 185 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: baseball to not have. One that'd be a good. Start 186 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 3: BUT i mean didn't even, exist you know last, time you, 187 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: know at least in the scope that we see him 188 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: now that that we we had him in, Baseball SO 189 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: i can't. Wait it adds to the. Lore and in 190 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: the fun Of, october they also Claims Troy, johnston SO 191 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: i love that as. Well i'm really pumped For troy 192 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: to get an opportunity out. There So i'm all in 193 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: on The. Rockies I'm i'm. Again it's it's the gift 194 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: that keeps. Giving they really are like They The pirates 195 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: are just. Upsetting The rockies are. Funny if you're gonna, 196 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 3: suck be funny and. Rocking The pirates. 197 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: Are almost dwindling away in the prime Of Paul skens' 198 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: youth and control. Contrect it's not funny at. All what's 199 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: funny is we Spawned Hunter. Goodman let's try and find 200 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: ten more and make. 201 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: Him not a, catcher and then a catcher, again and 202 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: then maybe he's Not, actually let's catch him again. 203 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: And many hits thirty four homers or however many he, 204 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: hit which is just. Great SO i love it so. 205 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: AGAIN i Mean October October roctober is, on And Paul 206 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: deepotesta is your New president Of Baseball operations for The Colorado, 207 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: rockies at least it has been reported at this. Point 208 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: now we get into the, mailbag and we're gonna start 209 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: with some market. Movement and what DO i mean by? 210 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: That this first question comes to us FROM x and 211 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: this question is from At Carter Underscore west. Eleven who 212 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: of the ten smallest market teams will do the. Most 213 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 2: who of the ten largest market teams will do the. 214 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: Least it's tough in terms of market. Size so How 215 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: i'm gonna go about it is payroll allocation for twenty twenty. 216 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: Six i'm going to read you the top. Ten we're 217 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: going to talk about who does the least this, offseason 218 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: and Then i'm gonna read you the bottom, ten and 219 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about who does the most of those bottom. 220 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: Ten do you want me to go payroll allocation for 221 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: twenty five or for twenty? 222 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: SIX i Would i'd go For i'd go for Twenty 223 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: that's a good. Question, ACTUALLY i think for twenty six twenty. 224 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: Six, okay so what do you have allocated? 225 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: For, ACTUALLY i think the basis of the question is 226 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 3: kind of like from what we saw last, year what's 227 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: gonna be like can this team be a little bit different? 228 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 3: Now like which team is clearing up the most to potentially? 229 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: SPEND i think they'll be overlap regardless then, diagram it's 230 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 3: gonna be too overlapping quite significantly. There but, YEAH i 231 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: Think i'm just. Curious we'll use twenty five as a reference. 232 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: Point, okay let's use twenty. Five so the first part 233 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: of the. Exercise we're gonna go with the top ten 234 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: teams in terms of payroll, allocation and you're gonna tell 235 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: me who you feel like does the least this offseason 236 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: among the teams that are top ten in payroll for twenty, 237 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: five so the top ten were The, dodgers The, mets The, 238 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: yankees The, phillies The Blue, jays The, astros The, rangers The, 239 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: padres The, braves and The. Cups so again la Both New, York's, Philly, Toronto, Houston, 240 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: Texas San, Diego. Atlanta The. CUPS i can start if 241 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: you want more time to, think but if you've got 242 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: one off the map a. 243 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 4: Rip there's two. 244 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: LAYUPS i don't expect The padres to do, much just 245 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 3: because in terms of and we're talking about, spending, right 246 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: you can always expect the, trade BUT i don't expect 247 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: The padres to do, much AND i will never expect 248 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: The cubs to do much as long As rick gets 249 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: as the. 250 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: Owner the fact THAT i saw a report in Early 251 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: november this came out earlier this week that The cubs 252 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: will not be pursuing big time start or big time 253 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: relievers on the free agent market was discouraging to me 254 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: AND i know that a lot of people looked at 255 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: it and, said, oh it's. Relievers you, know they might 256 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: pursue other. Things they're effectively being priced out of The 257 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: Kyle tucker. Thing they've never paid a free agent like, 258 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: That so who's to believe that they're going to do 259 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: it For Kyle? Tucker, now who's to say that they're 260 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: going to do The Alex bregman. Thing When Matt shaw 261 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: showed his signs of life at the end of the 262 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: twenty five, Season SO i start looking at what else 263 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: you may? Need Showed aymanaga is now. Walking you assume 264 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: that they pursue starting, pitch but do they do it 265 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: on the free agent market or do they try and 266 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: get creative on the trade. Front they have the capital 267 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: to go Get Mackenzie gore From, washington they have the 268 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: capital to pursue a couple other trade. Partners maybe not 269 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: schoolbl but we'll. SEE i thought relievers were the way 270 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: to go on the free agent. Market Brad keller's not 271 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: on the team next, year the only. Highliver it's crazy 272 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: they lost a. Lot if they were losing nothing and 273 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: everybody was, RETAINED i understand wanting to run back what 274 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: you had at the end of the year because The 275 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: cup bullpen was decent at the end of the. Year 276 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: but the only high leverage arm that is returning Is Daniel. 277 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: Palencia you need other guys Around Daniel, palencia and even 278 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: if you feel overwhelmingly confident that he can be a 279 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: ninth inning, guy go get an elite eighth inning, guy 280 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: and if you have to flip flop, him you. Can 281 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: the fact that On november, Three november, fourth whenever it, 282 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: was they shut down the pursuit Of Edwin diaz Or Devin, 283 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: Williams it's it's just crazy to me that they shut 284 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: it down immediately like. That so that was my easy 285 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: layup answer because. 286 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: And AGAIN i think it ties into similar to what 287 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: we were talking about with The Jed hoyer. CONVERSATION i 288 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: Think hoyer has a budget that he has to work, 289 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: within and he's probably looking at it and, saying, Well 290 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: i'm not gonna WASTE x amount of my. Budget i'm 291 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: on a reliever WHEN i don't have a ton of 292 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: wiggle room right now because ownership's not giving me a 293 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: much much room to work. With so that's at least 294 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: HOW i perceive. It you, KNOW i Think jed would 295 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: love to. SUSPEND i, mean they were apparently in on 296 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: The Tanner scott. Sweepstakes maybe they they saw how that 297 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: went and, said, oh thank, goodness we dodged that, bullet, 298 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: Right because The dodgers can afford to miss On Tanner, 299 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: scott The cups can afford to as, well But Jed 300 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: hoyer can't afford To and that's the, difference. Right he 301 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: needs to operate like he's a mid market team because 302 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: his owner handcuffs his, own you, know his own front, 303 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: office so that that part is. TOUGH i think The 304 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: rangers are an interesting one as. Well you do wonder 305 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: like at what point do they kind of not, reset 306 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: but like look at their financial commitments because they're still 307 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: gonna Have semi And seeger paid for a long time 308 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: To grom for a couple more years and, say maybe 309 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: we need to like we're still, good but, yeah maybe 310 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: we need to get a little bit. Younger LIKE i 311 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: could see it going either, way BUT i don't feel 312 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: as though The rangers are going to be incredibly aggressive this, 313 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: offseason given where their payroll, is where they have continued to, 314 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: be AND i just think where the franchise is kind 315 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: of AT i don't. Know i'm curious what you think 316 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: about The. Rangers, yeah The. 317 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: Rangers it makes sense because they were so offensively lethargic 318 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: for the back half of the, year really the entire, 319 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: season and the starting pitching was so, good and the 320 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: relievers they mixed and. Matched they didn't have to too 321 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: much coming off the. Books so part of me, Thinks, 322 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: okay they feel like half the team they don't have to. 323 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Touch they're thirteen to fifteen, pitchers maybe even twenty when 324 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: you think about minor league, depth they're twenty pictures that 325 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: they have in the. Stable they may feel like they 326 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: don't need to, touch AND i understand entirely why they 327 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: wouldn't do. That and the question then becomes how many 328 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: places do you feel comfortable spending on? Bats do you 329 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: really think j T romuto is going to be that 330 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: much better Than? Jonaheim probably. Not do you really think 331 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: so and so is going to be better than this 332 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 2: guy in the corner? Outfield are you really moving off 333 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: of a Doleice. Garcia there are so many little pieces 334 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: in this that make little sense to. Me if you're 335 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: looking to, upgrade if it's not going to be, substantial 336 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: why do it SO i understand why you just Throw. 337 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: Texas, yeah and it's, Like, okay a lot of these 338 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: contracts are at least on the back end, now especially 339 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: some of the, pictures and and you're looking forward to 340 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: Getting jock off the books after next. Year and when 341 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: you look at the younger core Of langford And Josh 342 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 3: young And Evan, carter hopefully you take a step forward and. 343 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: Lighter and you mentioned some of the top prospect APP 344 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: i just wonder if they want a little reset on 345 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 3: the books. There AND i think signing more free agents 346 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: and vets like just may not make a ton of, 347 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: sense as we, mentioned Like San diego is always kind 348 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: of cash. STRAPPED i also wonder What philly's gonna do 349 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: because they don't have to like, if, okay bring Back, 350 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: schwarber that's, priority but that may not even. Happen bring 351 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: BACK jt that. Helps if you do those two, things 352 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: you've got no other room to work with. FINANCIALLY i 353 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 3: don't think. 354 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: So that was the other team that jumped out to. 355 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: Me there are some clear cut lineup deficiencies if they 356 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: don't bring anybody, back, Right, okay try and bring Back Kyle. 357 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: SCHWARBER i hope they. DO i think they're gonna pony 358 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: up and do. That can they get out of The castianos? 359 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: Thing maybe not. So castianos already locks up a roster 360 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: spot for. You centerfield is going to be marsh and 361 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: Probably Justin. Crawford at this, Point crawford had enough success 362 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: In TRIPLE a to warn a major league roster spot 363 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: In dombrowski and his, endics and media availability was obviously 364 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: very high On Justin, Crawford so baitter that retention doesn't 365 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: make much. Sense the one big splash THAT i could 366 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: see them making is a third. Base do you move 367 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 2: off of, boonmb do you trade? Him he's, tradeable and 368 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: do you pony up and Pay. Bregman you're already at 369 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: about two hundred and fifty million dollars on the books, 370 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: here so there's a lot of money allocated to this 371 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: roster as it. Stands right, now there's minimal space in the, 372 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 2: rotation and you look at the bullpen and it's pretty much. 373 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: Untouched the only guy that comes off Is David. Robertson 374 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: but you already have your closer In. Deran alvarado is already, 375 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: Back kirkering is already. Back strom is already, Back so 376 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: there's like two guys to go. Get It's, schwarber it's a, 377 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: catcher and then maybe It's. Bregman so it just, depends, 378 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: like all, right if they Retain schwarber AND jt and 379 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: they keep, boom what did they? Do not? Much it's 380 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: just running back the same damn. 381 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 3: Thing that's WHY i like the idea of clearing up 382 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: some money moving. Boone, Yeah Aiden, miller COULD i think 383 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: be big league ready? Soon and is he gonna be 384 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: great right? AWAY i don't. Know but he going to 385 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: defend at third? Base, well he's gonna grab bags if 386 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: that's your, late you, know back of the order, HITTER i. 387 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: DON'T i don't hate. That and then you have some 388 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: money to allocate. 389 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: Elsewhere almost identical to The Matt shaw situation In chicago 390 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: going into this, year where, like you, Know shaw is 391 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: going to be okay at minimum and when the stick 392 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: comes around he can transition into. Good that feels like 393 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: The Aiden miller conversation one hundred. 394 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: Percent, SO i, mean we've talked about all the teams 395 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: that we don't think are going to do very, much, 396 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 3: right who do we think is going to do very? 397 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: Much so the bottom ten and payroll last year twenty 398 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: one through, Thirty, Minnesota, Colorado, Cincinnati, Washington, Cleveland, Tampa Bay, 399 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: pittsburgh The White, sox The a's and The. Marlins so, Again, 400 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: miami The, a's The White, Sox, Pittsburgh, Tampa, Cleveland, Washington, 401 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: Cincinnati colorado And. Minnesota the two that immediate like knee. Jerk, 402 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: oh of course they're going to do. Something cincinnati And 403 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: cleveland are probably those two. Teams but how much faith 404 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: do you have In cleveland actually doing. Things cincinnati couldn't 405 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: agree to terms OR i think declined their end of 406 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: the option With Austin, hayes So hayes is now on 407 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: off the. Books there were a bunch of moves For 408 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: cincinnati that make me think that they're going to try 409 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: and upgrade in a couple of. Places so my eyes 410 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: gravitate Towards. Cincinnati the other, one to be totally honest with, 411 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 2: you The a's might throw a bunch of cash at 412 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: a couple more starting. 413 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 3: Pitchers, yep, Yep AND i think they should AND i 414 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: THINK i think they. WILL i really, do because this 415 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 3: is a team now where you'll get your offense and you, say, 416 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: man like we can we can make a little run next, 417 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: year and we can really position ourselves. Well AND i 418 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: think with all the money that's waiting for you, know 419 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: ownership And fisher on the other, side when they make the, 420 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: MOVE i think even the cheapest of cheapos can justify 421 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: that expenditure when you, know you, know you're generating hype 422 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: and excitement ahead of that potential move and you, have you, 423 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: KNOW i think one of the more exciting young. Cores 424 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: The reds thing is interesting because What Nick crawl, SAID 425 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: i think it was a few days, ago was that 426 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: the payroll will be around the same was the quote 427 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: to the twenty twenty five, levels which is a, joke 428 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: just just a. 429 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: Joke by the, Way So cincinnati's payroll last year was 430 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: one nineteen right, now what are they owned the books 431 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: for before arbitration kicks in thirty? Nine let me go 432 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 2: to their estimation when it comes to ARBITRATION. 433 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: Mlb trade rumors as their projected payroll or roster resource 434 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 3: does excuse me at ninety one? 435 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: Million, YEAH i see ninety seven on spot, Tracks so 436 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: that gives them about twenty five thirty to work, with which. 437 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: Is that is pretty? Active if that's? 438 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah and they can move off of maybe a 439 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: contract here or there like. That that's what makes It 440 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: Brian hayes thing even more head. SCRATCHING i think is 441 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: just like why you have even more money to work with? 442 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: Now BUT i guess they looked at the free, agent 443 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: you know pool and said it drops off at third, 444 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 3: base and this is a player, that you, know we 445 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 3: feel like will probably be better than what we can 446 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: get during the off. Season BUT i don't. 447 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: KNOW i just thought that was. 448 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: Interesting BUT i think they obviously have some wiggle room there, 449 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 3: still even though they don't want to up the. PAYROLL 450 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 3: i think in The a's there IT'S i just don't 451 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: how does the revenue work for? Them they're playing in 452 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 3: a minor league. Park how much is that affecting? THEM 453 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: i have no. Idea i'm not, sure but who knows 454 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: all fake numbers with them? 455 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 4: Anyways and THEN i don't know if this sounds. 456 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: WEIRD i don't have any proper analysis for, this BUT 457 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 3: i feel Like tampa's do for one of their surprising little. 458 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: DEALS i think so. TOO i think they try it every, 459 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: year they don't, always and if they're going to give 460 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 3: their best, offers we just don't really hear about it 461 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 3: and if it's just they're not going to, overpay, right 462 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: but sometimes players fall into their. Lap Aus On kim 463 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: kind of fell into THE wap just didn't really work. 464 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: OUT i think they could do something similar. 465 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: To, that but a little bit. 466 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 3: BIGGER i don't know who that is, exactly BUT i 467 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: just feel LIKE i feel like they're due to make 468 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of a spend and do something, there 469 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: especially new. Ownership, yeah maybe they want to send a 470 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: message here to their fan base and that this is 471 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 3: going to be a little bit different than what you've 472 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 3: been used, to you, Know AND i wonder if that 473 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: a little bit of a. Splash there could be something 474 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: that they. 475 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: Do and as of nine minutes, ago this is The 476 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: perka doing this. Live they have eleven more million dollars 477 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: to play. With they Declined Pete fairbanks option for twenty twenty. 478 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: Six that was an eleven million dollar club option that they. 479 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: Declined So Pete fairbanks number one is now a free, 480 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: agent and that enriches the pool of free agent, relievers 481 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: which we've learned The cubs are not willing to venture. 482 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: Into if The cubs And Pete fairbanks have a conversation 483 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: and they get to a point where they can't agree 484 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: on like a bargain. Number that is crazy to. Me 485 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: crazy to me that The cubs would eliminate themselves Before 486 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: fairbanks even hits the open. Market So Pete fairbanks is 487 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: officially a free Agent tampa to climb the club. Option 488 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: BUT i could see, that like they, have for the 489 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: sake of the, exercise thirty five million dollars to. Spend 490 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: how do they spend? IT i Trust tampa to spend 491 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: it in a really smart and fun and frisky. Way 492 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: AND i feel like this could be their fun and frisky. 493 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 3: Offseason Like Merril kelly or something like. 494 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: That, yeah, Right like who's the next Flin. 495 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: OR i know they don't really need, him but LIKE 496 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: i could see like An okamoto something like that would 497 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: be really. Fun so that's the one OTHER i could. See. 498 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh there's just no, shot right they should on, paper they, 499 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: Should they. WON'T i don't know who. Else who else 500 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 3: kind of do you look at and. 501 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 2: Say, HEY i could see them spending not many people 502 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: to be on with, you like in that. Clump Is. 503 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: WASHINGTON i don't Think washington does. 504 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 2: That, No washington. Doesn't washington is closer to a rebuild 505 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: than they were last. Year last year we were, Saying, 506 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: oh they're the team of the, future and then all 507 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: of a, sudden they took five steps. 508 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: Backwards, YEAH i Think tampa's going to surprise with a little. 509 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 3: Deal that's that's my. Shot and THEN i agree with 510 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: you on the. Athletics, cool all. 511 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 2: Right next question also comes to us On, twitter and 512 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: this one in our mailbag comes to us from At chargers. 513 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: Bang who are the best bounce back starting pitching options 514 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: in free? Agency starting pitchers that are on the open. 515 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 2: Market the ones that immediately jumped to the forefront of my, 516 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: mind you, know the best are From Bervaldez Ranger. Suarez 517 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: Dylan ceze is one of the. Best he's ALSO i 518 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: think looking for a relative bounce. Back it was not 519 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: a very good walk here For dylan Ce so that 520 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: is my bounce back. PICK i Guess Dylan. Ce's but 521 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: the clear cut one for me Is Michael. King he 522 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: knows What Michael king's value. Is When Michael, king when, 523 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: healthy has proven that he can be a top fifteen 524 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: to twenty pitcher In Major League. Baseball SO i look 525 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: For Michael king to almost sign like this bargain deal 526 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: maybe approve it of sorts and absolutely. Shove so the 527 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: two Former padres are the ones that jumped to the 528 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: forefront for. 529 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 4: Me, YEAH i was trying to. 530 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: Think, of, like by definition a bounce back guy here 531 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: because it's it's tough because, like does Does giulito count 532 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: as that he kind of bounced back last? YEAR i 533 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: Think imanaga is the clear cut, one and now that 534 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: he's a free, agent even more, so and a guy 535 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 3: THAT i just think one maybe finds a way to 536 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: get a tick back on the, fastball hits a different 537 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 3: kind of. 538 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 4: Yo you could already hear it now right. 539 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: Where Oh imanaga's averaging ninety two to ninety three, now 540 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 3: and he did a whole different workout regiment this offseason 541 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 3: and you, know met with this person or that person 542 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: and did, This AND i like him with his. Fastball one, 543 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 3: tick two ticks can make all the difference in the. 544 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 3: World and kind of saw that this year being down 545 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: a tick when you have that kind of. Vert SO 546 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: i think he's the clear cut, guy AND i think 547 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: for him this year was a little bit of a 548 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 3: wake up. Call he probably the first year he comes 549 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 3: over and is now my stuff still plays the. Same 550 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 3: they said this was going to be a tough, transition 551 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 3: and then has the year that he had this, year 552 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 3: and then has the option, Declined, LIKE i think this 553 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: is a spot where it's, like, well this is this 554 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: year coming up for, me can be the difference between 555 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 3: me making another sixty to seventy million in my career 556 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: even regardless of how this contract, goes or or a 557 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: little bit. Less SO i think he's a clear cut 558 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: option there to be a guy THAT i think could 559 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: bounce back in a big. Way and that's Why i'm 560 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: really fascinated if he goes one year deal or if 561 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: he tries to maximize his earnings and just goes three by, 562 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: twenty AND i think somebody would give him. 563 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: That in terms of a bounce, Back i'm going to 564 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: start to get a little, gross And i'm going to 565 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: throw you some, names AND i just want to see 566 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: your facial, reaction And i'm going to try and describe 567 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: facial reaction for our audience on, Audio Nick, martinez is 568 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: that a bounce back, name little, smile slight turn of the. 569 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: Head, YEAH i can. 570 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 4: Count BUT i think he had a decent, year did he? 571 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: Not he? Did gallan is also a clearcut. One he 572 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: started to really write the ship after The All star, 573 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: break but it was tough before The All star. Break Eric, FETTI. 574 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: I don't even think he's bouncing, back. MAN i, Think, okay. 575 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: He was really good in twenty four and then he 576 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: was really bad in twenty. Five did all of it 577 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: go away in twenty? Five that's just for the sake 578 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: of the, exercise that's my. 579 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: Question he, NO i mean he is a a guy 580 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: that could be better next, Year SO i guess by, definition, yes, 581 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: see he could be a bounce back. 582 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 4: Candidate there's not really a lot Out Yester. 583 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 3: Cortez, yeah he's got to get, healthy, right BUT i 584 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: think he's a great. One His Brandon woodruff count Because 585 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: cortes was pitching through an albo. Issue he was and 586 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: now he got to. FIX i don't know how long he's, 587 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: out but that that's definitely a guy if he's healthy 588 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: and feeling better that you, know we've seen, him you, 589 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: know pitch at a high. 590 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: Level, yeah Does woodruff count kind? 591 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: OF i thought we saw him look good when he came. 592 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: Back we did see him look. Good Walker, bueler. 593 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: It's always going to Be i'll pick him every. Year 594 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: is a balanced back candidate for. 595 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: Sure Does dustin may still have nasty stuff in? 596 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: HIM i THINK i think He's he counts, too because 597 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: that's another. Guy just if it clicks his, offseason his 598 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: body's in a good. Spot would it surprise you at 599 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: all that you know he took a huge step? Forward, 600 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: AGAIN i don't think, so AND i think definite he's. 601 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah f one's an interesting. 602 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: ONE i like the flyin shout one more THAN i 603 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: want to throw at. You Does Marcus stroman have anything? 604 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: Left i'm packing it in AND i think. THERE i, 605 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: THINK i think that's. IT i don't know if he's 606 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: going to be much of a bounced back. 607 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: Guy that's. Fine, okay let's move to Our instagram questions. 608 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: Here first one has to do With Trek. Schoobel in 609 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: our First instagram question comes to us From coyotes eight 610 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: eight K i yts eight lower case. Eight who has 611 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: and would be willing to give up the prospect capital 612 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: For Trek's. Schooble there are very few teams that have 613 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: the prospect. Capital we've already seen a couple of teams 614 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: signal that they could be in on the pursuit Of Terrek. 615 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: Schooble one of them is one team that doesn't Need Trek, 616 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: schooble and that is The Seattle. Mariners but The Seattle 617 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: mariners have the prospect capital to go and Get schooble 618 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: for one. Year do they do? It do The tigers 619 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 2: entertain a prospect. Package they clearly have a system that 620 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: can go get. Him the other systems at the forefront 621 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: of your mind that can go Get Trek's, Schooble, seattle The, Dodgers, 622 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: tampa But tampa wouldn't do it. Yet tampa could have 623 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: some fun and do. This that would be pretty. Funny 624 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: milwaukee could go do. 625 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: It The. 626 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: Mets The mets could go do. 627 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: It The mets could do it because it is insane 628 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: as it, Is, like, yes it's still going to be 629 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: a crazy, haul but it is one year Of, schooble 630 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: so it's still going to be a crazy. Haul but 631 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: it's not going to be The Juan soto, package right 632 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: like it just it won't be. That SO i THINK 633 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: i think a lot of teams can do. IT i 634 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: just wonder it's one of those situations WHERE i don't 635 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: very rarely DO i think it's gonna work in your 636 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: Favor when you know that the player is gonna hit 637 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: free agency unless you feel like that's. All like for The, 638 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 3: MARINERS i think it makes a little bit more sense 639 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: because they can legitimately win The World series with. HIM 640 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: i think with The, mets like it can make some, 641 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: sense but they also have a lot of things they 642 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: need to sort. Out and if you have an eighty 643 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: eight win season and you traded you, know two fifty 644 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: future value prospects and a couple other, guys uh that 645 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: that's twelve plus years of control of those, guys, like 646 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: and then you win eighty eight games and that's. 647 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 4: It, LIKE i don't know if it makes as much. 648 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 4: Sense SO i. 649 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: Think The mariners are as good of a candidate as you've, 650 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 3: got BECAUSE i think for them, too there's just several 651 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: prospects THAT i don't think they'd feel as. Much you imagine, 652 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 3: dangling you, know AND i don't know where he fits 653 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: in with The tiger, specifically but you could Dangle Harry 654 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: ford and some of these other guys THAT i think 655 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 3: would provide plenty of. INTRIGUE i do think The mets 656 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: have as good of a top ten as you've got 657 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: in terms of. 658 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 4: Prospects as if we just updated that, system but you. 659 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: Also have to think, about like what team is going 660 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: to operate in that, manner in that level of. Aggression 661 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 3: and that's WHY i don't see The brewers doing. It 662 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: that's WHY i don't see The rays doing. It it 663 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 3: doesn't seem like there's a ton of teams that are 664 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 3: probably gonna meet that asking price that's going to Allow 665 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 3: Scott harris to do, it because it's no matter what 666 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: an optics, nightmare, Right so you better nail the trade 667 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 3: and you better get as much as you. Can and 668 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: that's where maybe The dodgers or the team that really 669 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: is willing to get a little, reckless maybe The, phillies 670 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: because they don't want to spend out, right and they 671 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 3: know this might be, actually even though we say it every, 672 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 3: year this might be their last. Shot maybe The phillies 673 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: can piece something together there and make it happen because. 674 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 4: Their system isn't, elite but it's it's good. 675 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: Enough they. Could it would, hurt but they could do. 676 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: It. Yeah the other team THAT i wanted to float 677 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: in this but they just don't have the headlining piece 678 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 2: good enough to do it Was. Arizona like If lawler 679 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 2: could be a headlining piece Obviously arizona would be willing 680 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: to go and do, it But lawler, has, UNFORTUNATELY i feel, 681 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 2: like played himself out of being A terrek schoolble. Headliner 682 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: he can be the headliner for some really good. Pitchers Terrek, 683 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 2: SCHOOBLE i don't know if he's at that level. Anymore 684 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: you'd have to give a lot with, it, right a. 685 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: Lot it'd be like co headliners and that hurts right 686 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: like you'd have to be doing that and Wald schmidt and. 687 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 3: Like at that, POINT i think If i'm it's. Crazy 688 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: If i'm The, DIAMONDBACKS i don't know IF i want 689 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 3: to do it at that point because AND i know 690 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 3: it Was, oh but It's. Terrek'scouoble it's one, year. 691 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: And it's one year and you have zero. Farm after this, trade. 692 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 3: You're, done and the odds of you retaining him are 693 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: probably rather. Slim so that's WHERE i think they Could, 694 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: theoretically it may not make sense for, Them and then 695 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 3: the team THAT i think would want to do, IT 696 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 3: i just don't know how they would do. It as 697 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 3: The giants as, well they don't have the prospect, capital 698 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: BUT i could see them having the aggression and the 699 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: willingness to do. IT i just don't know how they 700 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: would be able to do it because it would have 701 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 3: to Be eldridge and then scrap it together, Man and 702 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: maybe you, can but, like do you want to? Again 703 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 3: it goes back to the, conversation do you want to 704 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 3: Trade eldridge for one year of a? Pitcher it's, Tough 705 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 3: so all of those wrinkles make it. INTERESTING i don't. 706 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 3: Know is there a fit that makes the most sense for, 707 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: you like a team that you feel like can afford 708 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 3: to go all in other than The dodgers on one year? 709 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: Here not, really to be honest with, you the two 710 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: that make the most sense to me that would never do, 711 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: It but in terms of like it makes a lot 712 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: of sense in terms of their candidacy for contention in 713 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Six milwaukee is far and away a clear 714 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: cut one for. Me if The brewers Had trek schoobl this, 715 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: year think about how we're talking about, Them but. 716 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 4: They're usually the one that's trading The. 717 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: AGS i know. Exactly but what does like back to 718 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: back N O manager of The year awards do for? 719 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 2: You what does the best team in baseball and not 720 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: getting through THE cs do for? You and getting bludgeon 721 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: in THE cs do for. You, yeah they're not going 722 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 2: to do it because they've built a sustainable model on 723 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: winning and they don't spend the future to maximize the. 724 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: Present they want to, have you know that To poto 725 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: fifty four, percent like they embody that as well as 726 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 2: any organization in, Baseball so they wouldn't do. It it's, 727 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: funny LIKE i look at the two AND i, think 728 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: what Would milwaukee look like if they Had schooble fronting that? 729 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 2: Rotation and then what Would tampa look like next year 730 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: if they Had schooble running that fronting that. Rotation but 731 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: these are two teams that literally never do, that so they. 732 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 3: Won't that's and that's that's the tough. 733 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: Part the other one is The, mets like obviously The, mets. 734 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 3: And then one other could The Blue jays, Say, okay 735 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 3: it's no guarantee we get back, there we need to 736 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 3: make a. Splash we already have our financial. Commitments could 737 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 3: The Blue jays piece something together here to make it? 738 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: Happen and what would their piece together look? Like it 739 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: would start with. Argin start With. 740 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 3: ARGIN i, MEAN i think a lot of people like you, 741 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 3: know AND i don't think you need to do both of, 742 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 3: them like you could figure it out a lot of 743 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 3: people Like Jojo, Parker, LIKE i don't know if you 744 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 3: have to move both of. THEM i think one of 745 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 3: those two guys can headline because they have so many 746 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 3: INTERESTING i think pitching prospects at least that are, Emerging 747 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 3: but it would be, Hard like is It? Tetaman are 748 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 3: you gonna trade six years A? 749 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 2: Tetaman how About ben's pitching clips here on? YouTube adding 750 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 2: in barger question mark. Barging. 751 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 3: Thing that's the interesting thing about The Blue jays is 752 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: it doesn't and it's a great, point it doesn't necessarily 753 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 3: have to be all farm, related like and if you're The, 754 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 3: tigers you're not looking for like a major major prospect 755 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 3: all you probably want some some close to big league 756 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 3: ready pieces that can help. You and they've got a 757 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 3: lot of outfield depth that they need to sort, through and. 758 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 4: We're going to talk about that in a. 759 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: Minute but like even A Joey Lil, perfido you get an incredible. 760 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: Year that guy CARRIES i think as much value as 761 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: a really solid, prospect given that he's had some big league, 762 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 3: success he's got, versatility he was just squeezed out on you, 763 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 3: know one of the best rosters position player wise in, 764 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 3: baseball but even then contributed and played, Well like why 765 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 3: can't that be a complimentary piece if you're going To 766 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: mala And Lill braffito and then you, Know Johnny king, whatever, 767 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 3: like you can put together a really good package there 768 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 3: and make it. Interesting AND i think that's and then 769 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 3: that's a guy that helps The tigers. Tomorrow SO i 770 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 3: feel like that would be a really interesting way to 771 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 3: go about. 772 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 2: IT i think so that would be a favorite. Too, 773 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: yeah that would Be that would be the, Sexiest like 774 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: that would be the biggest splash that just changes. Baseball 775 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 2: AND i can See Bleacher report aggregating that and just 776 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: saying are The Blue jays unbeatable? Now like doing the 777 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 2: hoop of fi. Thing, yeah so that would be. 778 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: Fun Uh. 779 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 2: Okay Last instagram question for you is A tony V tello. 780 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: Question we haven't really gotten to talk about, it SO 781 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: i Appreciate Aiden hurforth bringing this up On. INSTAGRAM i 782 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: know what happened a little bit, ago but can you 783 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 2: guys share your thoughts On Buster posey taking a crazy 784 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 2: chance On Tony vitello and How bouchie And Dusty baker 785 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 2: can help his. Advisors if you missed, It Bruce boci 786 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 2: is back in the organization as a special. Assistant Dusty 787 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 2: baker has his toes in the organization as. Well you 788 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 2: have Two hall Of fame level managers that are overseeing 789 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 2: the first guy ever to jump into a major league 790 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: manager role without any previous coaching experience at the professional. 791 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 2: Level Tony vitello won a national title At. Tennessee he 792 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 2: jumps from being the head coach at The university Of 793 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 2: tennessee and dealing with nil in the transfer portal to 794 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 2: dealing With Raffi devers And Logan. Web it is an amazing. 795 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: Jump it is such a ballsy jump from The San Francisco. 796 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: Giants it is so so o gutsy From Buster posey 797 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: And i've talked to you about this via, FaceTime via phone, 798 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 2: call via, text AND i just don't think we've ever 799 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: really had the opportunity to talk about it on the 800 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 2: pod because there was that Whole World series thing going. On. 801 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: YEAH i freaking love this. HIGHER i love that they're 802 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: taking this. Risk Walt weiss In? Atlanta is that? Fun 803 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: is that winning A kunya back? OVER i JUST i 804 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 2: look at these two AND i gravitate Towards San francisco 805 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 2: Hiring Tony. VITELLO i gravitate Towards washington hiring a thirty 806 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 2: three year Old Blake puterra get, fun get, young get 807 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: closer to these. Guys and this is the closest that 808 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 2: a team has gotten to these. Guys. 809 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 3: Well AND i think there's a new normal here right 810 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 3: in terms of how what a manager's job description. Is 811 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 3: AND i think more than, ever the manager's job description 812 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 3: is less about putting the best lineup together every single 813 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 3: day and more about keeping the team together every single 814 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: day and kind of, leading you, know a group of 815 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 3: young men and keeping them bought in and having the 816 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 3: trust and all those different, things and really being the 817 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 3: liaison between players in front. 818 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 4: Office like they got to wear a lot of the 819 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 4: player of. 820 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 3: Frustration like if a player is not, playing you, know 821 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 3: and he's got an issue with, it they're not the 822 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 3: players not going to THE gm and saying why AM 823 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 3: i not? Playing but the manager's usually not the one 824 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 3: making that. Decision yet he's gonna go to the manager's 825 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 3: office and talk about. 826 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 4: It so that's the new norm in the. 827 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 3: Role and like it's, funny it goes back To moneyball 828 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 3: in the conversation WHERE i, have like you remember it, 829 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: was that's kind of the beginning of that disconnect that 830 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,919 Speaker 3: daw has been, streamlined where IT'S gm acquires a guy 831 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 3: wants him to play, manager says, NO i like this guy. 832 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 3: Better that doesn't really happen, anymore doesn't. Exist SO i 833 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 3: think when you have a college coach here that that 834 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 3: is the biggest part of the. JOB i think is 835 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 3: leading even younger men THAT i have even less direction 836 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: and things like. THAT i think it's an interesting shot to. 837 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 3: TAKE i would be a little bit nervous if it 838 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 3: was him In washington with like nobody else maybe, involved 839 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 3: like No, dusty, no, No. BOCI i really like it 840 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 3: when you have the mentors to, compliment you have a 841 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 3: buster posey to, compliment and you have a guy that 842 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 3: also In, vitello that can provide a perspective that Maybe 843 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 3: boci and, uh you, Know dusty don't, Have AND i 844 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 3: think that's the really cool part of, it but also 845 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 3: compensate for the lack of experience That vitella, has you, 846 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 3: know at the big league. Level SO i do feel 847 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 3: like this is a perfect scenario to take this. Shot as. 848 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 3: Well Between, posey the Two hall Of fame, managers and 849 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 3: the situation at hand, THERE i think it wouldn't have 850 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 3: been an equal hire in a different. SITUATION i think 851 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 3: this is the perfect landing spot to try this thing 852 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 3: with the college. 853 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 2: Coach, Yes AND i Think Tony votello is going to feel, 854 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 2: zero like almost feels zero hesitance to reach out to 855 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 2: A Bruce boche and A Dusty. Baker, frankly that's what 856 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 2: they're there. For AND i guarantee You bochie looked at 857 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 2: this and, SAID i have the opportunity to be kind 858 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 2: of a manager's. MANAGER i get to coach up a. 859 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: Manager that's better than any managerial Opportunity i'm gonna have right. 860 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 2: NOW i have no idea What bochie's pursuit of another 861 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 2: big league manager role looked like this offseason after he 862 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 2: and textas parted. WAYS i have no idea if he 863 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 2: was a real candidate For San diego or any other 864 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 2: team The. Rockies The ROCKIES i think are the only 865 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: team without that manager seat field right. Now but that's 866 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 2: A paul De podesta. Problem so, UH i just look 867 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 2: At bochie salivating at this and him saying, yes because 868 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 2: he wanted to be the mentor To Tony bytello And 869 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: Dusty baker being willing to Mentor tony By. Tello so 870 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: if you told me THAT i could learn quarterback in 871 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 2: THE nfl And Tom brady was a part of, OWN 872 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: i want to play for The, Raiders like that's that's 873 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: my cross sport equivalent of. 874 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 3: This. Yeah, Yeah and at the end of the, day 875 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 3: The raiders are very good right, now at the end 876 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 3: of the roster is the most important, part Right so, like, 877 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 3: yeah and that that's the big. Thing roster looks pretty. 878 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 3: GOOD i think it's a it's it's a nice piece 879 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 3: to add here into like a NEW i THINK i 880 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 3: don't want to see a new, era but like the 881 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 3: posey era and just kind of creating a different feel 882 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,919 Speaker 3: to everything that's going on. There he's made his kind 883 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 3: of stamped. Trade he's made some moves and now this 884 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 3: is kind of his stamp tiring and AND i think 885 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 3: it's it's a fun approach to take from a guy 886 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 3: that you, know is A hall Of fame caliber player 887 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 3: that has played for a legendary manager saying, NO i 888 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: think this is actually a good shot to take. Here 889 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 3: AND i think that says a, lot BECAUSE i don't 890 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 3: Think posy's the kind of guy that's just going to 891 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 3: try to be different and get cute with it like there. 892 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 3: Was i'm sure a lot of sound logic behind. This. 893 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, uh it's amazing that we've made it forty three 894 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 2: minutes and we have yet to bring Up Kyle. Tucker 895 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 2: we're gonna do that with a fun question in a. 896 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 2: Moment now to Our discord, questions and the first one 897 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 2: has to do with the Mister Kyle, tucker who is 898 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: the most sought after free agent on the market right, 899 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 2: Now john De philippo in our Amazing discord. Community and, 900 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 2: again if you are not in Our discord, community number, 901 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 2: one you're missing out number. Two the link is in 902 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 2: our episode description to. Join john De philippo, asked how 903 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 2: do you guys see The Kyle tucker sweepstakes? Evolving and 904 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 2: which clubs do you think are most willing to give 905 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: him That megod deal in terms of, Like i'll answer 906 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 2: the second part first because that's the quicker. Answer the 907 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 2: clubs that are willing to give him The megod, deal 908 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 2: you know. Them you can count them on one, hand, Right, Dodgers, Yankees, 909 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 2: mats a couple other teams sprinkle in, there maybe not The. 910 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 2: CUBS i have no. Idea so it's the typical. Players 911 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 2: it's the common. Folks when we talk about a three 912 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: hundred and four hundred million dollar, contract how it's going 913 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: to evolve is the fascinating part to. Me with twenty seven, 914 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 2: looming THAT cba is hanging Over Kyle tucker like a 915 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 2: storm cloud right, now AND i have no idea if 916 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: teams are willing to go four hundred and fifty million 917 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 2: dollars for, Him i'd be curious because, like it's getting 918 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 2: more real. Now and the argument, is, well The mets 919 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 2: just Paid soto seven sixty five last. Year The dodgers 920 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 2: just Paid yamamoto three twenty five two years. Ago we've 921 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 2: seen mega deals come. In The Blue jays played paid 922 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: flatty five hundred last. Year things get more real a year. 923 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 2: Out i'm planning a wedding For january at twenty. Seven 924 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 2: things are gonna get more real In january at twenty. 925 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: Six as soon As New year's. HIT i Know i'm 926 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 2: a year away from my, wedding so shit's gonna get 927 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 2: more real at that. POINT i feel like it was 928 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 2: almost this. Abstract oh that's so far off in the, 929 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 2: distance and now we have counted one he's in remaining 930 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 2: before we get to, this it feels like around an inevitable. 931 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 2: LOCKOUT i have no idea what's gonna happen, there but 932 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 2: there's this sense of impending doom that is becoming more 933 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 2: and more real for a guy that struggled with injury 934 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 2: after The All Star break and struggled on field after 935 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 2: The All star. Break there were so many factors here 936 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 2: that make his free agency fascinating to. 937 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,399 Speaker 3: Me, yeah it's a combination of unfortunate circumstances for him 938 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 3: where he's still had a good year, obviously but it 939 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 3: wasn't his best and try to play through injury and then, 940 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 3: yeah you have the lockout. Looming but it's funny to 941 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 3: me because. 942 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 4: How much does that. 943 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 3: MATTER i know teams don't want to pay guys like 944 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 3: when you know when they're not playing games, essentially and 945 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 3: there's a lot of different wrinkles to that, Too BUT 946 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 3: i feel, like no matter, what you're signing him for 947 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 3: the next decade, Anyway so what's the, Difference and how 948 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 3: many games are we truly gonna, miss if any at? 949 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 2: All and the clap back to that is do you 950 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 2: want to be on the hook for forty five million 951 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 2: dollars a year in twenty thirty three when there's already 952 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 2: a restructured thing and only five guys are making. 953 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 3: That, YEAH i mean that that is that is the difficult, 954 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 3: part right because you don't know what the structure is 955 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 3: going to look. Like AND i think that is the 956 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 3: the ultimate. Challenge but you're worried about You you're not 957 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 3: going to rewrite the constitution, here Right like at the 958 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 3: end of the, day there's too many players on those 959 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 3: deals that you you won't. LIKE i don't think there's 960 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 3: a way where those deals are just going to become. 961 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 3: Up so if you create an infrastructure And i'm this 962 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 3: Is i've already starting to get on the edge of. 963 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 4: Outside of my pay. 964 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 3: Grade but if you create an infrastructure of, like, okay 965 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 3: forty five million dollar contracts are no longer worth, it 966 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 3: that would that would fuck them like a lot of. 967 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 3: Teams SO i just don't think it would be allowed to. 968 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 3: Happen even if you did create some guardrails and figure 969 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 3: out a way to create some sort of cap it 970 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 3: would have to be still room enough to where all 971 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 3: of these forty plus million all The Kyle tucker caliber 972 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 3: players are still earning close to. That and that's the 973 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 3: other conversation that becomes really fascinating, too like who is 974 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 3: most affected by a salary? Cap is it the top 975 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 3: end guys or. 976 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 4: Is it like the middle? 977 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,879 Speaker 3: Guys because in THE nba you have no middle, class you. 978 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 2: Have not no, no because you're either getting Like Tumani 979 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 2: kamara getting one hundred million, dollars you're Getting caruso getting, 980 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 2: fifty or you've got guys playing on the. Minimum now 981 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 2: the minimum is going to go. Up that feels like 982 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 2: the foregone. Conclusion it feels like The Players association will 983 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 2: try and push The Major league minimum from the seven 984 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 2: to fifty eight hundred it's sitting at right, now to 985 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 2: a million bucks and that would be second BEHIND i 986 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 2: think THE. Nba so you've got a million dollars in 987 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 2: terms of a, minimum what happens to the mid? Level 988 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 2: But i'm looking at just allocations for twenty twenty, six 989 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 2: there are fifteen. Guys twenty six times thirty is what 990 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 2: twenty six times thirty equals seven hundred and eighty seven 991 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,399 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty Active Major League baseball players at any 992 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 2: given time fifteen of them make thirty million dollars in, 993 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 2: More so that number from an owner's, perspective they'd probably 994 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 2: want to keep. There and they don't want. Everybody they 995 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 2: don't want fifty guys making thirty million dollars or, more 996 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 2: they want fifteen guys making thirty million dollars or. More 997 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 2: so the question then, becomes do you View Kyle tucker 998 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 2: as one of those top? Fifteen do you View Kyle 999 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 2: tucker as the fifth guy to make forty million dollars 1000 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 2: over the course of a given. Year there are four 1001 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 2: guys making forty million dollars or more in twenty twenty. 1002 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 2: Six It's, Soto It's, judge It's, wheeler and It's. Guerrero 1003 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 2: those are the. Four so it just becomes, like all, 1004 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 2: right if there are sweeping changes and the top is, 1005 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 2: affected AM i comfortable with this guy being grandfathered into 1006 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:00,720 Speaker 2: the tippy tippy? 1007 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 3: Top? 1008 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah and that you got to lean on your, evaluations 1009 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 2: and you got to lean on YOUR r AND d, 1010 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 2: department like you have to lean on a lot there 1011 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 2: to make that. 1012 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 3: Decision and that's WHERE i THINK i go longer term 1013 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 3: and just a little bit lower Aav but it becomes 1014 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 3: a really fascinating, conversation And i'm very eager to see 1015 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,919 Speaker 3: how it all works. Out BUT i still think, regardless 1016 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 3: we're going to see a team just, say, Well i'm 1017 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 3: going to take advantage of this. Uncertainty maybe in some 1018 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 3: other years we might get out. Bid and IF i 1019 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 3: can get in On Kyle tucker even three hundred, million 1020 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 3: three hundred, CHANGE i think that's where you start to 1021 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 3: see The yankees really get back involved, there. 1022 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 2: And The cubs maybe get involved. 1023 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,760 Speaker 3: There, yeah and The cubs you'd hope would get involved, 1024 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 3: there and maybe it opens up the sweepsticks a little bit. 1025 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 3: MORE i think The giants should be involved there as, 1026 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 3: Well so maybe more teams are a little bit more 1027 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 3: willing at that. Point but then that naturally drives the 1028 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 3: bidding back up. Again SO i think it's going to be. 1029 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 3: FASCINATING i think teams will go more. Years well 're 1030 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 3: aav for the sake of not knowing what the. 1031 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 4: Situations to. 1032 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 3: Be salary cap, wise that. 1033 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 2: Feels like to play where it. 1034 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 3: Seems like a game that'll age, well even though he's been, 1035 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 3: Hurt like his game seems like it'll age. 1036 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 2: Well, yeah because he doesn't really punch. Out he. Walks 1037 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 2: he plays good, defense like there's enough well rounded in 1038 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 2: his game that makes you think that it's gonna be, 1039 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,439 Speaker 2: fine which is funny because common thinking would, be, oh 1040 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 2: in this case of, uncertainty pay him a lot like 1041 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 2: highav over a shorter amount of total. Time we're actually 1042 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 2: working the opposite, here where you should pay him for 1043 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 2: longer but pay him a lower amount of, money which is. 1044 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 2: Funny part of the trickle down leads to our next 1045 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 2: question on, discord and this discord question comes to us 1046 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 2: From Regal, lager one of the funniest guys in that. 1047 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 2: Discord he asked some funny. Questions he, said my serious 1048 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 2: question is which free agent people are projecting for a 1049 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 2: massive payday will still be unsigned On Valentine's? Day and 1050 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 2: why is it going to Be Cody? Bellinger AND i 1051 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 2: love that he said, that because it is gonna Be Cody. 1052 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 2: Bellinger it's gonna be the trickle down from the mega. 1053 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 2: Guys Cody bellinger won't sign Until tucker, signs because everybody 1054 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,280 Speaker 2: that's in The tucker sweepstakes is gonna try and pivot 1055 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 2: To PLAN b AND b stands For, bellinger and then 1056 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 2: they're gonna pivot to PLAN g AND g stands For. 1057 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 2: Grisham Cody bellinger And Trent grisham are the two to 1058 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 2: me And baitter those are the guys to me that 1059 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 2: are waiting For tucker to sign and then their market gets. 1060 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: Moving there are pieces like that every single, year and 1061 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 2: there are starting. Pitchers we'll see who the first starting 1062 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 2: pitcher is that get, Signed BUT i guarantee it's not 1063 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,959 Speaker 2: gonna Be Michael. King like it's gonna be a top 1064 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 2: of the line, person and Then Michael king is gonna 1065 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 2: look at that contract and, say people forget When i'm 1066 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 2: on the, Mount i'm better than that, Guy so gimme 1067 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 2: more or gimme the. Same this is gonna be a reactionary, 1068 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 2: offseason much like it was last. Year you also look 1069 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 2: at the third base market Behind Alex. Bregman it's weird with, 1070 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 2: posting but like Does morikami wait Until bregman signs or 1071 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 2: Does bregman wait Until mourakami, signs there are a couple 1072 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 2: of decent domino effects that need to, happen And bellinger 1073 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 2: is the clearest example of. 1074 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 4: That, yeah that's. 1075 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 3: FUNNY i THINK i Think tucker is going to take 1076 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 3: some time, too because they're gonna just hope that the 1077 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 3: market materializes a little bit more than it does or 1078 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 3: whatever it may. Be pitching wise To cease one of 1079 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 3: the first shoes to, drop or is he a wait and, see, 1080 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 3: like are team's going to be a little bit more 1081 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 3: hesitant to all? RIGHT i, GUESS i guess we'll take 1082 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,839 Speaker 3: a shot. There or Is fromber a safer choice for? 1083 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 3: You like who? Is they're, Different they're volatile in different, 1084 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 3: ways AND. 1085 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 2: I all, KNOW i understand the idea Of romber being 1086 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,479 Speaker 2: volatile from like an emotional, perspective but from an on field, 1087 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 2: perspective you know what you're getting every, year and that's 1088 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty to two hundred innings at a 1089 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 2: low threes and a really good ground ball. Rate SO 1090 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 2: i feel Like fromber could be the first shoe to 1091 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,359 Speaker 2: drop because there has been precedent for, Him and then 1092 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 2: you get into volatility is cease and then When cease, 1093 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 2: SIGNS i feel Like gallon would wait for cease because 1094 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 2: If cese is getting, This gallan can pitch himself similar 1095 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 2: or better To cease and, say WELL i need. More 1096 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 2: there are a bunch of different ways that this can. 1097 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 3: Unfold, YEAH i have a Feeling cease is gonna take a. 1098 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 3: WHILE i don't know, why BUT i JUST i THINK 1099 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,840 Speaker 3: i think there's gonna be a lot because he's so, 1100 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 3: talented AND i think there's just such a wide range 1101 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 3: of what he possibly could get and what he might 1102 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 3: end up. GETTING i think that might be one of 1103 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 3: the guys that we're waiting late into the, offseason still 1104 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 3: trying to figure out where the heck he's gonna. 1105 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 2: Go, YEAH i could see, that all. Right next question 1106 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,479 Speaker 2: we've got comes to us From scoople is my king 1107 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 2: with a crown emoji in. Discord this question has to 1108 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,919 Speaker 2: do with The Blue. Jays how did The Blue jays get? 1109 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 2: Better and should they get rid Of varshow because his 1110 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 2: bat is so. Inconsistent i'll push back on the inconsistent bat. 1111 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 2: Thing when Var show was on the field this past, 1112 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,720 Speaker 2: year he was, like pound for, pound the most powerful 1113 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 2: guy in. Baseball he hit a bunch of homers and 1114 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 2: not a lot of time they hold on to our. 1115 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 2: Show Var show has quickly become a cult. Hero this 1116 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 2: guy is one of the best defensive outfielders In Major League? 1117 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 2: Baseball how did The Blue jays get? Better terrek's Schoobl 1118 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 2: how else did The Blue jays get? 1119 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 3: Better, Derek, Uh it's interesting because they. Aren't and this 1120 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 3: is the hard part of like The hangover ball, clubs 1121 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 3: right where it's, Like, okay you don't want to rewrite 1122 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,919 Speaker 3: what got you, there because you clearly have something good, 1123 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 3: here but you also don't want to take it for 1124 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 3: granted and just assume you're gonna get back there with 1125 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 3: the same situation. Always you're gonna lose some. Guys guys 1126 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 3: are gonna get. Older you, Know Kevin gosman's gonna be thirty. 1127 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 3: Five George springer had this incredible, season can he match 1128 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 3: it at thirty. SIX i think there's a lot of 1129 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 3: different components to. IT i think there's positives. TOO i 1130 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 3: think the way that they get better IS i can promise, 1131 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 3: you AND i don't know. HOW i don't. THINK i 1132 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 3: don't know if we'll be. GOOD i can promise, You 1133 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 3: Anthony santander won't be. Worse of, course you're gonna get 1134 00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 3: a full season of our. 1135 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,359 Speaker 4: Show WHO i don't think you should. 1136 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,880 Speaker 3: Trade there's a team that Employed Kevin, kiermeyer and you 1137 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 3: kind of get him with all the sliders turned up, 1138 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 3: HERE i understand that he's really inconsistent, offensively but he 1139 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 3: is really really special out, there and he's gonna run 1140 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 3: into enough homers and he's gonna give you a ton 1141 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 3: of value. DEFENSIVELY i don't, know because you, lose you 1142 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 3: Lose bishet, presumably then it's really hard to get better. 1143 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 3: There you Bring baschette, back it's really hard to add anything. 1144 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 3: Else the fact That Shane bieber opted IN i think 1145 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 3: says a lot about the clubhouse and their situation there 1146 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 3: and how much people want to play. There, incredible incredible 1147 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 3: that he did, that and it was cool to. SEE 1148 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 3: i think the clear way that they get better is 1149 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 3: they bolster that bullpen. Further and another clear way that 1150 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 3: they get better Is Ricky tiedeman's gonna be. 1151 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 4: Healthy And i'm speaking that into. 1152 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 3: EXISTENCE i think he's gonna be, healthy and whether he's 1153 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 3: a rotation piece or a bullpen, guy it's an arm 1154 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 3: that you can utilize that will be helpful and will 1155 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 3: make you. Better you're gonna get a full Season. Savage 1156 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 3: Remember Trady savage made three starts at the big league. 1157 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 3: Level SO i think they'll naturally get a little bit. 1158 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 3: Better BUT i don't think they need to do anything 1159 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 3: crazy with that. LINEUP i really do believe that the 1160 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 3: way that this team gets better is maybe one more 1161 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 3: arm that you trust and then adding to the, bullpen 1162 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 3: because your two biggest ADDITIONS i think as a season. 1163 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 3: Progressed Where Trey savage And Shane bieber they made a 1164 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 3: combined ten starts for you last, Year you're going to 1165 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 3: get them for the entirety of the season this coming. 1166 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 3: Year and that is a huge addition for twenty twenty. 1167 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 2: Six what do we talk about all month? Long one through? 1168 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 2: Nine there are minimal weaknesses in This Blue jay, lineup 1169 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 2: and the weakest link in That Blue jay lineup Was Andre. 1170 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 2: Seimenez And jimenez is not going. Anywhere he's on one 1171 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars deal and he's an, elite elite. Defender 1172 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 2: so there's nowhere that you need to concretely upgrade and, 1173 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 2: listen If bishett doesn't come, Back you're, right it's really 1174 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,959 Speaker 2: hard to you, know kind of supplement. That so we'll. 1175 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 2: See but, yeah it feels like the path to success 1176 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 2: is in that bullpen and not Having Louis varlin throw 1177 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen games like he did this. Year 1178 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 2: how many games did he throw in, Total i'd be 1179 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 2: curious to, Me. 1180 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 3: I'll pitch seventy two. INNINGS i don't know how many. 1181 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 3: Appearances it was seventy three. 1182 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 2: Innings, Actually Louis varland this, year AS i pull it, 1183 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 2: up he made seventy four appearances in the regular season 1184 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 2: and then you go to the. Postseason seventy four plus 1185 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 2: fifteen is eighty nine appearances over the course of one calendar. 1186 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 2: Year Louis, varlin how about his twenty? Five you were 1187 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 2: on the hill all the freaking. Time find somebody else. 1188 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 3: That's another guy that didn't. Throw it's on for them. 1189 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 3: RIGHT a lot of their deadline acquisitions set them up 1190 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 3: for next year, too and that's WHY i think they're 1191 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 3: naturally gonna be, better or at, least you, know in 1192 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 3: a spot where they can be. 1193 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 2: Better, yep. Dork question for, You. Dork this one has 1194 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 2: to do WITH Ivb. Jared is a high IV b 1195 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 2: AND dos vertical break fastball something that can be taught 1196 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 2: or is it just something that a pitcher either does 1197 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 2: or doesn't naturally. Have and if it is, teachable why 1198 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,959 Speaker 2: don't more guys have HIGH ivyb fastballs your, Show? 1199 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 3: DORK i think more guys do have HIGH ivb, fastballs, 1200 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 3: Right so like that's what we're. Seeing but, yes it is, 1201 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 3: Teachable but here's the interesting balance of. It it's teachable 1202 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 3: to a point where it's LIKE i think every guy, has, 1203 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 3: well first of, all either a pronator or. Supernator so 1204 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 3: if you're a, pronator it's gonna be pretty hard to 1205 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 3: teach because you're naturally kind of getting over the ball 1206 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 3: and you're gonna be throwing more sinkers, naturally change up 1207 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 3: guy thinks like, That Think sandi Al contra in terms 1208 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 3: of a. Pronator if you're a, supernator that's guys that 1209 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 3: just tend to cut stuff a little bit more. Naturally 1210 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 3: those guys it's a little bit easier to stay behind the. 1211 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 3: Baseball AND i would say Think Kirston, WALDRIP i Think Corbyn, 1212 01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 3: burns think those types of. 1213 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 4: Guys then you just have the guys. 1214 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 3: That are a little bit in, between but you're you're 1215 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 3: always gonna skew on one side, there. RIGHT i think 1216 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 3: those are the guys that you can find, Like, okay 1217 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 3: how CAN i stay behind the baseball a little bit? 1218 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 4: Better you? 1219 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 3: Know how CAN i work behind the ball and generate 1220 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 3: more spin? Efficiency you get instant feedback too with Track 1221 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 3: man and Rap. Soto so you can be throwing these 1222 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 3: balls and then, say, oh, okay your spin efficiency isn't great, 1223 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 3: Here like if you make this mechanical adjustment, here and 1224 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 3: there's people that are way more you, know tapped in 1225 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 3: that can speak to this a little bit. More but 1226 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 3: little things that you can do mechanically to improve. That 1227 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 3: BUT i do think there's just a certain point where 1228 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 3: you can't get to any more for your personal, ability, 1229 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 3: Right LIKE i don't think you can just teach everybody 1230 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 3: how to get twenty plus inches. 1231 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 4: Of vert or. Whatever it is relative to their release. 1232 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 3: Height and that's the other thing, too, right it's relative 1233 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 3: to release. Height, also you don't want to undo what 1234 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 3: got these pitchers. There they're they're throwing the way that 1235 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 3: they've always, thrown and in the pursuit of vert if 1236 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 3: you are now changing the throws and the motion for these, 1237 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 3: guys it could affect the way that they throw their breaking, 1238 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 3: Balls it could affect their fastball, command it could make 1239 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 3: them more likely to get hurt because they're thrown from 1240 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 3: a different. Angle, like there's a lot of Variable so it's, 1241 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 3: yes you want to pursue vert but you also don't 1242 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 3: want to give on some other areas as, well and 1243 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 3: it's not just that. Easy SO i think that's the difficult. 1244 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 3: Part BUT i do think it is, teachable AND i 1245 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 3: think it's something that guys have just found a way 1246 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 3: to maximize their ability and their ability to. 1247 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 4: Spin it can be. 1248 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 3: Different hand size, matters like all these different things can. 1249 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Matter it seems like every pitcher In Major league baseball 1250 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 2: skews towards in terms of, ease getting away from the 1251 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 2: norm and getting away from the dead zone in one particular. 1252 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 2: Way so there are, guys you, know pretty much Every 1253 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 2: major league baseball player is a good enough. Athlete if 1254 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 2: they wanted to addvert to their, fastball they, Can if 1255 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 2: they wanted to develop a, sinker they. Can't one of 1256 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 2: them is, easier one of them creates a nastier. Pitch 1257 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 2: you got to figure out which one is easier for. 1258 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 2: You Quinn priester in the minor leagues was hunting a 1259 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 2: four seam. Fastball The pirates were hunting a four seam 1260 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 2: fastball for, him. Right they were, like all, right let's 1261 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 2: get vert vert, Vert and it's not. Working it's just dead. 1262 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 2: Zone it's a bad Four. Seemer so what happens when 1263 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 2: he goes To, Boston, hey you're a sinker guy, Now 1264 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 2: and what happens when he makes his way To. Milwaukee 1265 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 2: he becomes one of the best groundball pitchers In Major 1266 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 2: League baseball and they won nineteen consecutive games that he 1267 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 2: started this. Year one of them is easier than the, 1268 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 2: other and it's dependent on the pitcher to figure out 1269 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 2: which one that is the other like simple number THAT 1270 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 2: i didn't realize correlated as much to vert AS i 1271 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 2: do realize. NOW i had heard tilt a lot over 1272 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 2: the last couple of, years AND i was, like what is? 1273 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 2: Tilt And Ryan weathers explained tilt to me. Best If 1274 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,919 Speaker 2: i'm tilting at, eleven which is one o'clock for a right, 1275 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 2: hander he's at eleven as a. Lefty if you're with 1276 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 2: the on, YouTube it's just the angle in which your 1277 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 2: fingers are when the baseball is coming. Off if he's 1278 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 2: tilting at, eleven he's going to get less furt than 1279 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 2: if he's tilting at high. Noon if his index in 1280 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 2: middle are straight up on a four seam, fastball he's 1281 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 2: going to get more vert than if they're slightly off 1282 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 2: to the. Side so if he feels like he's lacking, 1283 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 2: vert how do you add some in the? Moment how 1284 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 2: do you add some in a single bullpen on the 1285 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 2: very next pitch by focusing on staying behind the baseball 1286 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 2: and keeping your fingers. Upright so tilt has a lot 1287 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 2: more to do with it THAN i ever realized it. 1288 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 3: Did but if you're a guy that naturally you know 1289 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 3: their arm is a little bit closer to high three 1290 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 3: quarters or, whatever you're now trying to create an abnormal 1291 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 3: throw in the name of. Vert and now you're just 1292 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 3: making yourself less natural of a, throw, Right. 1293 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 2: So why not lean into the natural thing and try 1294 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 2: and get to that sinker which is probably. 1295 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 3: Easier, Yeah and that's the give and take, there, Right 1296 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 3: so how CAN i find a little bit more, vert you, 1297 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 3: know without compromising my? Mechanics and that's, where, guys that's 1298 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,479 Speaker 3: the give and. Take AND i think that's the hard, 1299 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 3: part and that's what makes it sof. Fun and that's 1300 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 3: why you've got all these these centers helping. 1301 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,479 Speaker 4: You you Got, tred you got all. 1302 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 2: Of, them all of. THEM a couple more quick. Ones 1303 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 2: this one is also From. Discord it has to do 1304 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 2: with storylines, simply And this is From ryan, simply what 1305 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 2: were your favorite three storylines this year that as to 1306 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 2: the beginning of the, year what were your favorite storylines 1307 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 2: would be coming into the. Season so this is kind 1308 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 2: of like reviewing the. Work the twenty twenty five season 1309 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 2: is in the. Rearview what were your favorite storylines from this? 1310 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 2: Year the one THAT i threw you before we hit 1311 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 2: the record button that you jumped all over in agreement 1312 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 2: was the pitch. Ability lefty is freaking. Back Matt boyd 1313 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 2: was An All star and one of the best pitchers in. 1314 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 2: Baseball Ranger suarez. Carved Christopher sanchez is probably going to 1315 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 2: finish second In National league Scy Young award. Voting there 1316 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 2: are so many lefties that dominated this, year and there 1317 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 2: are some high octane lefties that killed right Schoobl. Crochet 1318 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 2: those are the best two, examples but there were so 1319 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 2: many stuffy chess match lefties that shoved this. Year and 1320 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 2: is it because everybody else is a writing that's going 1321 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 2: four seems slider and it's high spin and high carry 1322 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 2: and it's hard and. Harder it's just such a. DEVIATION 1323 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 2: i feel like it almost like finally caught up to 1324 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 2: the modern age of. 1325 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 3: Baseball it's it's. WILD i don't AND i. Was i've 1326 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 3: been talking to some people about. It it's, like can 1327 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 3: you quantify? It like some people with teams even they're, 1328 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,440 Speaker 3: like we talk about it all the time in the. 1329 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 4: Office we have no, idea like we're trying to figure it. 1330 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 3: OUT i think it's just, different, Right AND i THINK 1331 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 3: i think that's a big part of it is in 1332 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 3: the in the pursuit of trying to cover vert and 1333 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 3: stuffy guys like the command and pitch, ability it just 1334 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 3: ended up becoming a factor. 1335 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 4: Here that's WHY i always say baseball. 1336 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 3: Cyclical you get so far away from sometimes where you 1337 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 3: used to be trying to create a new edge and 1338 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 3: match that edge that other guys are trying to, create 1339 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 3: that the thing that you know used to be really 1340 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 3: common becomes uncommon and now that's. 1341 01:06:59,360 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 4: Typical. 1342 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 3: Uh it's funny because this isn't the best, barometer but 1343 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 3: right handed, pitchers you, know dating back to twenty, fifteen 1344 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 3: right handed pitchers had a four like compared To i'm 1345 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,280 Speaker 3: trying to think of the best way to say. This 1346 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 3: in twenty, fifteen right handed pitchers had a three nine 1347 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 3: NINE era and the ten or eleven season since, then 1348 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, five right handed pitchers had the seventh HIGHEST 1349 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 3: ri it was a. 1350 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 4: Four point two. 1351 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,959 Speaker 3: Eight the only higher seasons in that regard with twenty twenty, 1352 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 3: three twenty, seventeen twenty twenty and twenty. Nineteen left handed 1353 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 3: pitchers this past year had a three eight FOUR. Era 1354 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 3: that's the lowest in a. Decade that's just interesting to, 1355 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 3: Me like a three eight, four like it's a half run. 1356 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 3: Difference three at FOUR era is the lowest for left 1357 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 3: handed pitching since twenty. Fifteen so three eight, SEVEN i. 1358 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 4: Don't know what it. 1359 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 3: IS i don't know what, happened but, lefties and it 1360 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 3: wasn't just the top guys right Like Parker messek comes 1361 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 3: up and gets. 1362 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,439 Speaker 4: Out It's Andrew abbott now became a top. 1363 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 3: Guy it just it just is. Fascinating gintana continues just 1364 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 3: go out there and get. Out BUT i thought it 1365 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 3: was really, interesting just the discrepancy between AND i know 1366 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 3: sometimes you, know you get a lot more left on left. 1367 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 3: Matchups relievers could skew that a little, bit but not 1368 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 3: enough to throw off a whole sample size here four 1369 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,639 Speaker 3: two EIGHTY r for right handed pitching this past year 1370 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 3: and like a three eight four for left handed pitching this. 1371 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 3: YEAR i think that's pretty. Incredible and for the first 1372 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 3: time since twenty, fifteen a sub for era for left handed. 1373 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 2: Pitching that's so damn. Cool and you, know, hey you know, 1374 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,599 Speaker 2: what it really helps that some of the best pitchers 1375 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 2: on the planet and some of the guys that were 1376 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 2: anchors in terms of lowering that era are left. Handed 1377 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 2: Schooble Crochet abbott was one of the era leaders to your, 1378 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 2: Point Max freed one of the era leaders for the 1379 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 2: majority of the. Season but, like if we go back 1380 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 2: to the, cellarything it's the mid Level Matthew boyd coming 1381 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 2: out of freaking. 1382 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 3: Nowhere it's still an eleven seven and ninety one inning 1383 01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 3: and two thirds. 1384 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 2: Sample, Yes like those guys can't drag it all. Down 1385 01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 2: that is top to. Bottom they were just better than 1386 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 2: radies this, year which is, fascinating and they've been as 1387 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 2: good as they have been in a, decade so really really. 1388 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 2: Cool two more questions or, No we've got a couple more. 1389 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 2: Storylines that was only our first. Storyline the second one was. 1390 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 2: SIMPLE a catcher hit sixty homers this, year like Watching 1391 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,559 Speaker 2: Cal rawley Do that was utterly. 1392 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 3: Insane, YEAH i mean the amount of discourse that it. 1393 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 3: CREATED i think the regardless of what happens to THE, 1394 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 3: mvp just the fact that somebody could Challenge judge and 1395 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 3: just to have an all time season from that position 1396 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,600 Speaker 3: was just such a fun buzz and just another storyline 1397 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 3: that just created so much more excitement and something to 1398 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 3: follow In Major League. BASEBALL i, think without a, doubt 1399 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 3: that's one of the best storylines that we've had in multiple. 1400 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,160 Speaker 3: Years and THEN i think The Blue jays as a 1401 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 3: whole are just a great storyline because if you asked 1402 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:54,760 Speaker 3: me before the, SEASON i would have said them more 1403 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 3: likely to finish in last than. First AND i definitely 1404 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,599 Speaker 3: would have said them more likely to finish last than 1405 01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 3: to make it to The World. 1406 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:00,439 Speaker 4: Series that's what they. 1407 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 3: Do and then within that all the little wrinkles within 1408 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 3: The Blue, jays The Ernie clement story is one of 1409 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 3: the best postseasons of all, time even with the additional. 1410 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 3: GAMES i don't Care vladdie living up to the contract 1411 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 3: in like this first. YEAR i know he was going 1412 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 3: to do it, more but that was so. SPECIAL i 1413 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,800 Speaker 3: also would have Dfa George springer last, Year so Everything 1414 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,720 Speaker 3: Blue jays, RELATED i don't, KNOW i don't know, shit 1415 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 3: and he was one of the best players in baseball 1416 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 3: this year. 1417 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 4: PERIOD i just. 1418 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 3: Think at thirty five years, old to be able to 1419 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 3: find that WHEN i thought you were he was left 1420 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,599 Speaker 3: for dead the last couple of. YEARS i just Think 1421 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,639 Speaker 3: springer and The Blue jays in general just just such 1422 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 3: a unique and fun. Story and THEN i, think just 1423 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,640 Speaker 3: kind of tying that In Trey Y savage made The 1424 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 3: Blue jays really fun And i'm kind of stealing one 1425 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 3: from you. 1426 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,799 Speaker 4: Here but like we talked about it before we, recorded the. 1427 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 3: Youth movement In Major League baseball is in a it 1428 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,919 Speaker 3: is it is, powerful and we are in a, really, 1429 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 3: really really good. 1430 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 4: Spot WHERE i was. 1431 01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 3: Gonna, say is Like Nick kurt's's, storyline not really because 1432 01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 3: they didn't do much as a, team but he a 1433 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 3: guy that in one hundred and seventeen games put up 1434 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 3: a one to SEVENTY wrc plus as a. Rookie he 1435 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 3: was in the twenty twenty four draft. Class we're seeing 1436 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 3: players drafted getting to the big leagues faster than, ever 1437 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 3: faster than, Ever we're seeing guys make an impact faster than, 1438 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 3: ever and we're seeing young players continue to do things 1439 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,719 Speaker 3: that we've never really, seen whether it's Just savage almost 1440 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 3: winning A World series on the, Mound nolan McLain i 1441 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 3: think would have done the same thing if The mets didn't. 1442 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 3: Suck you look At Roman anthony he WAS i think 1443 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 3: his injury derailed The Red. Sox we're talking about rookies 1444 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 3: year that you should never play that much importance. On 1445 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 3: there is so much, talent young talent Major league, baseball 1446 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 3: AND i thought we really saw that this year across the, 1447 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 3: board where almost like A Cad horton who might, Win 1448 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 3: you're probably gonna Win rookie of The, year And Drake 1449 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 3: baldwin is gonna be the runner. Round we're almost forgotten 1450 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 3: because their years weren't as sexy as some of these 1451 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 3: other guys that came up and just flashed some incredible. 1452 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 2: Stuff, well and guys that fall further down the totem. Pole, 1453 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 2: Right durbin solidified himself as an Everyday Major league baseball 1454 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 2: player this. Year he was not a top one hundred 1455 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,479 Speaker 2: prospect in baseball coming into the. Year was he No Marsi, 1456 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 2: Right marci solidified himself as a building block for a 1457 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,400 Speaker 2: Major league baseball. Team for the next, five, ten fifteen, 1458 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,679 Speaker 2: years and he wasn't sniffing the top one hundred prospects 1459 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the. Year guy Like Augustine ramirez coming. 1460 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,200 Speaker 2: UP i know the catching wasn't, great but this dude 1461 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 2: hit twenty five homers in one hundred and twenty. Games, 1462 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,559 Speaker 2: like there were so many guys that showed, up and 1463 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 2: it was so much also to keep tabs. 1464 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,760 Speaker 3: On, Yeah Jacob wilson An All, Star like it's JUST 1465 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,639 Speaker 3: i and it's only gonna get. Better, LIKE i really 1466 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 3: think we're gonna see a lot of these guys take 1467 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,799 Speaker 3: a huge, leap and there's just so much to be excited. 1468 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,719 Speaker 3: About SO i think the youth movement and the talent 1469 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 3: that we've, gotten and even just Like Chandelier simpson comes 1470 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 3: up and, yes you know he's going viral because he's 1471 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 3: so fast and fun to. Watch, like there's just so 1472 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 3: many cool things THAT i think we're getting here from 1473 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 3: these athletes that are getting coming up In Major League. 1474 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 2: Baseball, Yeah i'm totally wing with. You two more guys 1475 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 2: THAT i want to throw. You in terms of, STORYLINES 1476 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 2: i JUST i found myself checking in on them all the, 1477 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 2: time not building off the pitchability lefty thing because he 1478 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:14,559 Speaker 2: throws ninety seven to ninety. Eight Christopher sanchez took a 1479 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,680 Speaker 2: really long time to become the pitcher he is right. 1480 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:22,639 Speaker 2: Now this guy was a non factor three years ago 1481 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 2: and then he's now on the most team friendly contract 1482 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 2: In Major League. Baseball he was like bouncing. Around he 1483 01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 2: was dfa candidate for a while, here and he became 1484 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 2: a top five arm in the. Game and every single 1485 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 2: TIME i got to Watch Christopher sanchez throw for The Philadelphia, 1486 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 2: PHILLIES i was. Enamored he has two. Pitches they moved 1487 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 2: the same. Way it's a sinker and a. Changeup they're 1488 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 2: just ten miles an hour. Apart and, again like the 1489 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 2: movement profile is. Identical he just has you playing a 1490 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 2: guessing game for seven, eight nine innings and it was 1491 01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 2: roll out of bed eight, innings a one run, ball 1492 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 2: seven innings of one run, ball eight. Eight he's a 1493 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 2: two run. Ball clockwork For Christopher. Sanchez it fascinated me 1494 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 2: every single time he got the. Ball and then the 1495 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 2: other one Is joe. Adel The Joe adel' breakout was 1496 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 2: really fun for me to keep tabs. 1497 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,479 Speaker 3: On, yeah that was cool to, see even though it's 1498 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 3: STILL i. DON'T i don't EVEN i still don't know 1499 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 3: If i'm buying. 1500 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,599 Speaker 2: It, sure that's, fun you, know we're just flirting with forty, 1501 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 2: yeah which is you got to buy, that. 1502 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 3: RIGHT i think The sanchez thing is so cool because 1503 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:26,679 Speaker 3: it went from a point on how do you Trade 1504 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,760 Speaker 3: Curtis mead for? Him and now it's, like how did 1505 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,839 Speaker 3: you trade him For Curtis? Mead? 1506 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 4: Uh and it was the? 1507 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,719 Speaker 3: Raise? Right SO i think that's the really fun part 1508 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 3: of this whole thing is you just you never, Know 1509 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,599 Speaker 3: and in baseball, specifically just so many different players can 1510 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 3: break out or turn things around or or whatever it may. 1511 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 3: Be AND i think the last one for me was Just. 1512 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 3: Buxton byron bucks what one hundred and twenty six games 1513 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 3: and most of those were in center field and he 1514 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,720 Speaker 3: went thirty, five almost twenty, one thirty five to twenty 1515 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 3: four home run stolen bases five. WAR i would have 1516 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,000 Speaker 3: never thought it was happening at this, point, Right, like 1517 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,759 Speaker 3: If Byron buxton can't play one hundred games in center 1518 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,439 Speaker 3: field at age twenty nine, thirty why is he going 1519 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 3: to do it at thirty? ONE i don't know what 1520 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 3: he did, it and JUST i know it was a 1521 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,720 Speaker 3: shitty season for The, twins but we just kept saying 1522 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,400 Speaker 3: on WHY i would just love to see him playing 1523 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 3: more games and not have TO dh most of. Them 1524 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,519 Speaker 3: and here he was playing a full season almost and 1525 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:23,439 Speaker 3: it was awesome to. 1526 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 2: Watch, yep all, right two more questions here to wrap us. 1527 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,640 Speaker 2: Up this was a fun one and this was a 1528 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,120 Speaker 2: conversation that actually stemmed from THE. Nba AND i love 1529 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 2: That vix threw this our way in the. Discord vic 1530 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,640 Speaker 2: sent us a screenshot of A Kenny beacham tweet And 1531 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,599 Speaker 2: kenny is doing great stuff AND i love That Kenny 1532 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,719 Speaker 2: beacham is getting this opportunity with THE nba ON. Nbc 1533 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 2: he is amazing and one of the. BEST i guess 1534 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,839 Speaker 2: creator is the right. Word he's one of the best 1535 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 2: content people that we have in. Sports But Kenny beacham 1536 01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,640 Speaker 2: asked this question On twitter a couple of years, AGO i, 1537 01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 2: think And vic sent it to us from a baseball 1538 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 2: if your favorite team could have one transaction redo from 1539 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 2: the last ten, years what would it? Be and that 1540 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,680 Speaker 2: could be a, draft that could be free, agency that 1541 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,040 Speaker 2: could be a. Trade and that just got me thinking 1542 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,280 Speaker 2: about the, trades Like Christopher santez For Curtis meat and 1543 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,880 Speaker 2: that got me thinking About Fernando Tatist junior For James 1544 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,639 Speaker 2: shields And Eric, johnson and that got me thinking About 1545 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,240 Speaker 2: Junior camonero For Tobias. MYERS i was just thinking about 1546 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 2: the best what ifs that we have in recent. Memory 1547 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,680 Speaker 2: do people know That Jordan alvarez was A? Dodger do 1548 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 2: people know That Onnel cruz was A? Dodger That there's 1549 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 2: so many fun ones that you can just look back 1550 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,160 Speaker 2: on and, say, oh you, know what if we drafted 1551 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,200 Speaker 2: this guy instead of this? Guy what if we held 1552 01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 2: on to this. Guy what if we didn't trade this 1553 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,200 Speaker 2: prospect for, this you know. Reliever are there any that 1554 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 2: jump to your mind like? 1555 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 3: THAT a lot of mine are not in the last, 1556 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 3: decade you, know like, that a lot of. THEM i 1557 01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,640 Speaker 3: go To miggy and there's so many of. THIS i 1558 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 3: think the one that that there's two It's yellowich And Real. 1559 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,320 Speaker 3: MUTO i think WHEN i look at The, marlins BECAUSE 1560 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,480 Speaker 3: i Think Real MUTO i could understand a little bit more. 1561 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,839 Speaker 4: Given where they were at with. Him The yellowich. 1562 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 3: One it's not really just about the. RETURN i know people, say, 1563 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,680 Speaker 3: Well yellwich wanted, out who. Cares what's he going to 1564 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,720 Speaker 3: not show up to the. Ballpark you extended him for 1565 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:30,719 Speaker 3: seven years like fifty million dollars and to trade him 1566 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:35,200 Speaker 3: to The brewers for the package that they, got Which 1567 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,640 Speaker 3: i've talked about a. Lot, right it's a guy out of, 1568 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,479 Speaker 3: baseball a guy playing football For, arkansas a guy that 1569 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 3: was out of baseball now is back in affiliated, ball 1570 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,760 Speaker 3: and a guy that's coaching high school. Baseball this trade 1571 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,800 Speaker 3: wasn't fifteen years, ago was now seven years. Ago. Less 1572 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,280 Speaker 3: that's the one THAT i think really set the franchise 1573 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,280 Speaker 3: back when you're talking about the process of trying to rebuild, 1574 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,000 Speaker 3: there because, like you had a budding star AND i 1575 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 3: think EVERYONE i don't think everyone knew that he was 1576 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,880 Speaker 3: going to be AN mvp, Candidate but it was funny 1577 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 3: WHEN i was Doing marlin stuff at the. Time the 1578 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,720 Speaker 3: year before his final year with The, marlins he was 1579 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,719 Speaker 3: my dark HORSE mvp. 1580 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 4: Pick didn't. 1581 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 3: Happen he had a really nice year, anyways but then 1582 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 3: the next year he WAS i think a lot of 1583 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,200 Speaker 3: people In marlins land knew that he had that upside in, 1584 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:24,559 Speaker 3: him and then you had him with control very. Cheap 1585 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,560 Speaker 3: that was the one where it's like you could have 1586 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 3: rebuilt with him as a constant and still you, know 1587 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,680 Speaker 3: been in a good, spot and then to whiff on the. 1588 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,559 Speaker 3: Trade that's the one THAT i think Hants marlins fans 1589 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,240 Speaker 3: as much as ANY i think is that, one because 1590 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,320 Speaker 3: you just can't come up empty if you're going to 1591 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 3: make that trade when you have all those years of 1592 01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 3: control and you know it's it's a good. SPOT i 1593 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,720 Speaker 3: know the contract is age a little, bit but like 1594 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 3: if The brewers are taking that extension and tacking on another, 1595 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 3: extension they never do. 1596 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 4: THAT i think that says a. 1597 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 2: Lot, Yeah i'm one hundred percent with. You, yeah growing, 1598 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,760 Speaker 2: up grow up A White sox. Fan like looking back 1599 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 2: at The tatis For James shields, MOVE i was so 1600 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 2: excited For james SHIELD i was at His White sox. 1601 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,599 Speaker 2: Debut it Was shields Against suzer And James shields didn't 1602 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,120 Speaker 2: make it out of the first inning AND i was 1603 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,879 Speaker 2: so fired up for big Game james being A Chicago 1604 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 2: White sox and the fact THAT i have to look 1605 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,559 Speaker 2: At tatis With San diego now is just it's not 1606 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:28,679 Speaker 2: hard obviously Because i've moved on from that. Entirely it's 1607 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 2: JUST i don't, know, man you're thinking about what could have, 1608 01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,880 Speaker 2: been and you think about what they built With Tim, 1609 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,360 Speaker 2: Anderson amonkata And Alloy jimenez And Luis robert and the 1610 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,759 Speaker 2: pitching that they. Had they Had, rodan they Had Lance, 1611 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,120 Speaker 2: lynn they Had dylan See. Gilito that team was. Loaded 1612 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,599 Speaker 2: and if you add a Young tatis to that, fold 1613 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 2: what does that team look? Like is it still? Together 1614 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,639 Speaker 2: are they still at the top Of Major League? Baseball 1615 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,880 Speaker 2: and it's, like it's a fun what if game to? 1616 01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,760 Speaker 2: Play AND i know That Kenny beacham is also A White. 1617 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 2: Sox that's how WE i think connected a few years. 1618 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,839 Speaker 2: Ago So i'm sure that's his baseball. 1619 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,760 Speaker 3: Answer, Yeah and THEN i would say. Probably and at 1620 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 3: the time it looked like a great a great Gat 1621 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 3: but also there was SOME i think info that could 1622 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 3: have been sourced at the. Time maybe picking someone other 1623 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,240 Speaker 3: than six to zero is the headliner for the Real 1624 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,400 Speaker 3: Mutea orchi probably undo. THAT I and, AGAIN i know 1625 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 3: he was super. Talented oh look how good he? Was 1626 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,679 Speaker 3: that was never the. Question but there was a history 1627 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 3: of arm, issues there were work ethic, questions AND i 1628 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,519 Speaker 3: think it was kind of The jeter way of oh, 1629 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 3: no we'll get him in our. 1630 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 4: System you will teach him The yankee way and we'll 1631 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:37,080 Speaker 4: get him. 1632 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 2: RIGHT i don't think, So, no didn't really work. Unfortunately, 1633 01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,720 Speaker 2: okay last question that we got is a fun. One 1634 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:44,840 Speaker 2: oh does that come as a? 1635 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 3: Transaction Derek jeter IS, ceo because that would just be 1636 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:48,920 Speaker 3: the ONE i would. 1637 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:53,719 Speaker 2: Undo we'll move on to the Mascot Hunger games. 1638 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 3: One. 1639 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,439 Speaker 2: Uh this one comes to us From taylor g If 1640 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,720 Speaker 2: all twenty seven masks because The, yankees The, dodgers and 1641 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,840 Speaker 2: The angels hate fun entered into The Hunger. Games which 1642 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,600 Speaker 2: mascot would? WIN i like this question a. LOT i 1643 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,240 Speaker 2: Think billy The marlin has a really good shot with. 1644 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 3: THAT i never saw A Hunger. 1645 01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,760 Speaker 4: Games so what, like what what is the? Importance like 1646 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:15,599 Speaker 4: you need. 1647 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,599 Speaker 2: To you need to source, food you need To it's 1648 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,160 Speaker 2: it's in every man for, themselves fight to the. Death 1649 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 2: like if you threw every mascot in the, octagon it's 1650 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,479 Speaker 2: not it's not about, survival it's about killing everybody. 1651 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:35,000 Speaker 3: Else, Okay So i'm honestly surprised that there hasn't been 1652 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,600 Speaker 3: like a lawsuit with The marlins of Like billy The 1653 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 3: marlin accidentally like poking a kid in the eye or 1654 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 3: something like. 1655 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 2: That billy looks a little. Dangerous he's really. LIABILITY i 1656 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,200 Speaker 2: don't know if it's a liability because he knows where that. 1657 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:47,640 Speaker 2: Where that. 1658 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,720 Speaker 4: Schna he's got good snout. AWARENESS i don't, know. 1659 01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 2: He's got good schna's eye. Coordination what do you be 1660 01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,160 Speaker 2: Bi Bill? Bill because It's billy. 1661 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 4: Our twenty at the podcast, here it. 1662 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,640 Speaker 3: Does but he can just, like, YEAH i think you 1663 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,720 Speaker 3: could not out right like that gimmick that the fanatic 1664 01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,280 Speaker 3: has with like the stomach like hip. 1665 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,920 Speaker 4: Pump that's not doing, Shit SO i. 1666 01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,439 Speaker 3: DON'T i think the best weapon that any of these 1667 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,280 Speaker 3: mascots have Is Billy's. 1668 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 2: BILL i would think. So the other one is The 1669 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,719 Speaker 2: padres have the swing In, fryar, right and That frar 1670 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,040 Speaker 2: holds a. Bat that's a legit, weapon AND i think 1671 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 2: that's the only weapon that is used by any. Mascot 1672 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,400 Speaker 2: BUT i would, say in terms of what you already 1673 01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,760 Speaker 2: have on your, Person billy The marlin feels like the 1674 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 2: way to go about. It The brewers also have two. 1675 01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,880 Speaker 2: Mascots they Have, bernie who hangs out in his chalet 1676 01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,640 Speaker 2: and he's gone. Immediately they have another, GUY i think 1677 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 2: called like the Barrel man or. Something and this, guy his, 1678 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,600 Speaker 2: body his torso is just a wooden, barrel so you 1679 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,519 Speaker 2: would think he would be immun from Any Billy. POKES 1680 01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 2: i feel decent about, him just almost like totally his 1681 01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,920 Speaker 2: way to. Victory But billy feels like the. Menace what the. 1682 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,639 Speaker 3: Hell is The i've never been through all the Mat 1683 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:13,800 Speaker 3: what the hell is The ray's? 1684 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:18,000 Speaker 2: Mascot they have like Three they have this Skateboarding, Ray 1685 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:21,440 Speaker 2: they have this cat understand. 1686 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 4: The popcorn, taking belly shaking. Loving raymond is a sea 1687 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:25,760 Speaker 4: dog from The gulf Of. 1688 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 2: Mexico, Yeah, RAYMOND i MET i Met. RAYMOND i met 1689 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 2: all three of them At Steinbrenner field this. Year it was. 1690 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 2: GOOD i took a photo of all. 1691 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 3: Three i'm Going billy with the with with The Bill. 1692 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 3: Dinger dinger has a pair of, uh a pair of like, horns, 1693 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,840 Speaker 3: yeah and uh actually a trio because he's got one 1694 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,400 Speaker 3: on the on this new, too and he can spin 1695 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:55,720 Speaker 3: his head Apparently dinger, Can, yeah so that could be 1696 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:56,360 Speaker 3: an asset. 1697 01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 2: Also otherwise they're all kind of the. Same The mariners 1698 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,360 Speaker 2: also have a, movie which is. 1699 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,240 Speaker 3: Tough what is what The diamondbacks? Thing What is that 1700 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:04,439 Speaker 3: like A. 1701 01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,640 Speaker 2: Bobcat, yeah it's kind OF i. 1702 01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,439 Speaker 3: Think so we need to refresh on the. Mascots i've 1703 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:11,320 Speaker 3: never gone through all of. 1704 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,519 Speaker 2: These, yeah should? We we should play a game if 1705 01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,680 Speaker 2: you were to like blur out the, uniforms could you 1706 01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 2: name this? 1707 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,840 Speaker 3: Mascot, DUDE i Think i'd get less than. 1708 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:21,760 Speaker 2: Five i'm gonna throw. You i'm gonna throw you all 1709 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,400 Speaker 2: the green fuzzy things like The Green. Monster i'm gonna 1710 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:28,840 Speaker 2: show you the Fanatic southpaw with the White sox, orbit 1711 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 2: with the astros. 1712 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:30,720 Speaker 3: Of any of. 1713 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 4: These, yeah also throw. 1714 01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:33,519 Speaker 2: You all those with blurred out. 1715 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:37,360 Speaker 3: Uniforms Rosie Red it's like a baseball nog in. There 1716 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 3: she could probably just like headcut. People, so, yeah the 1717 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,840 Speaker 3: bill is the, best the best. WEAPON i JUST i 1718 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 3: think it's clear the bill is the best. Weapon and 1719 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 3: and AND i don't see how anyone's, tapping like how 1720 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 3: anyone's topping. 1721 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,200 Speaker 2: That, yeah IF i were to, RANK i would Go 1722 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:56,719 Speaker 2: billy The, marlin The, Mariner, moose and Probably Dinger. 1723 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:02,760 Speaker 3: Dinger dinger's no no stranger to. Controversy, YEAH i think 1724 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,320 Speaker 3: Ding dinger is just tough to. Beat you can't take. 1725 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,599 Speaker 2: He actually has a penthouse apartment in Cassaday. 1726 01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 3: Arum oh he's ruin. Smile i'm looking at a card 1727 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:12,160 Speaker 3: Of dinger right. 1728 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,000 Speaker 4: Now that's our. 1729 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 2: Program we've taken you an hour in twenty three. Minutes 1730 01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us. Live if you did, 1731 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,559 Speaker 2: that thank you for joining us wherever you get your 1732 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,639 Speaker 2: podcast on audio or video anything? Else before we, say 1733 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 2: have a good? 1734 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 3: Weekend does The mariner's mascot get a? TRIDENT i saw that. 1735 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 3: Comment that is a good, question. Maybe and is there 1736 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 3: any asset To bernie The, brewer WHICH i didn't, know 1737 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 3: that's his. Name he can rip down a, slide but 1738 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:40,360 Speaker 3: anybody that's not. 1739 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,000 Speaker 2: A hunger games doesn't have his chalet in. 1740 01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,720 Speaker 3: There that's the best job in. Sports, huh just wait 1741 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 3: till the home go down the. 1742 01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,639 Speaker 2: Slide DID i tell you about my rant On? Bernie 1743 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,519 Speaker 2: he doesn't do any fan. Interaction he just hangs out 1744 01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,719 Speaker 2: in that. Chalet he goes. INSIDE i assume he takes 1745 01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,040 Speaker 2: his head. Off uh when he's just sitting in that. 1746 01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,960 Speaker 2: Chalet his only job over the course of A brewer 1747 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,040 Speaker 2: game is if they hit a, homer he goes down 1748 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:03,519 Speaker 2: the slide and then he just goes right back up 1749 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:08,320 Speaker 2: to his chatelet and. Chills it's first to, GO i would, 1750 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,679 Speaker 2: think so he doesn't really have any survival. 1751 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:15,040 Speaker 3: Skills, YEAH i like. That, okay, cool it's good enough for. 1752 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 3: Playing b have a good. Weekend yeah you, Too and 1753 01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,600 Speaker 3: everybody and every again every link of meats in the 1754 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 3: episode of. 1755 01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:34,400 Speaker 2: Description we will talk to you On. Monday