1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Nick Shot 3 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 5 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. Are you ready for some football? We've 6 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: got some football at the Star in Frisco. First practice 7 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: of the Mike McCarthy era is in the books. And 8 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola was right by the field to watch it. Well, 9 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: he was sort of. He had. In fact, Mickey had 10 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: a bird's eye view of it, better view than anybody 11 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: around Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. Bill Jones, 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: Everson Walls, Mickey Spagnola and Mickey. It's supposed to be 13 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: a high of one hundred five degrees today here in 14 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth. I think it was around eighty two 15 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: degrees when the Cowboys took the practice field at eight 16 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: o'clock this morning. So, and it was outdoors at Ford 17 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: Center at the Star in Frisco. But wouldn't it be 18 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen And it is the hottest day in at 19 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: least two years in Dallas Fort Worth when the Cowboys 20 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: have their first training camp practice. How about that? And 21 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Bill and Everson. That's a very good reason why Mike 22 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: McCarthy started this practice at eight o'clock in the morning, 23 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: because my thermometer here in Frisco said eighty three. I 24 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: think when they finished it was about eighty five, and 25 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: they had a two hour window, but they finished in 26 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: an hour and a half, so it wasn't that bad. 27 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: And one thing to remember, they've got four tents out here, 28 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: and judging from these big piping things from behind them, 29 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: they must be refrigerated, so there's some air conditioning in there. 30 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: And when they took a break at nine o'clock, everybody 31 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: went into the tents, so that's why I assume they 32 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: were cooling off. So they're trying to combat the heat. 33 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: And when you said I had a bird's eye view, 34 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: bird's eye is right because we're one level up and 35 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm watching out the window from my desk because we 36 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: can only have one person out on the field and 37 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips took that honor today, so the rest of 38 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: us watched from high above. But you know it's a 39 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: little different, and you guys are gonna laugh at this. 40 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: I used to judge my eyesight during these ota practices 41 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: where where you know, could be a hundred yards away 42 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: from the other end of the field where guys are working, 43 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: and I can see my eyes fading. So I said, okay, 44 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: now I need glasses, right, well, now I need binoculars. 45 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: So I got to alternate between my glasses and my 46 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: binoculars just to watch practice. So a little bit challenging. 47 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: But guess what, We're here at the start and there 48 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: was football on the field, and this is your first 49 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: time back at the Star, and I mean this week 50 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: is the first time back since the pandemic began. Right, well, 51 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: think about this. So I came back yesterday just to 52 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: see the protocol of how to get in, what I 53 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: had to do, get my temperature taken, answer a few questions, 54 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: make sure my mask is on, and I went and 55 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: sat at my desk, right and I kind of looked 56 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: around Bill and Everson, and you know, there was a 57 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: little clutter there and no one cleaned it up right 58 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: all this time. And then I looked at the calendar 59 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: and the calendar was still turned to March when time 60 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: stood still, and I could see my TS bags and 61 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: I saw the notes on my calendar, and the last 62 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: one I had there was Wednesday. I think it was 63 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: March twenty fourth, so that would have been the last 64 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: day I was here. I counted it up and it 65 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: was one hundred and forty days since I had been 66 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: here at the start. So yeah, it's been a while. Well, 67 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: I flew for the first time this past weekend and 68 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Brave Soul that was a herowing experience, I must say, uh, 69 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: And it was a little bit crowded as well. So yeah, 70 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: it's this is a different thing that we're dealing with, guys. 71 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: And that's one I think A factor that we really 72 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: didn't figure into. I don't think is you know when 73 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you look at the NBA and you look at how 74 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: some teams are adjusting better to the new schedule, to 75 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: the new venue than others, and then you've got the 76 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: Phoenix songs and breaking out there undefeated, and you've got 77 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: some tea that are just really not adapting well at all. 78 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: You have Baseball having to deal with fragmented scheduling and 79 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: things of that nature. I wonder, with the short practices, 80 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: no preseason, if I'm not mistaken, just not getting into pads, 81 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: how the team that adapts the best and the quickest 82 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: it may surprise you on the ones that are able 83 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: to do that, because when you look at this season 84 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: and you know, I guess they're going for a full season, 85 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: but the preparation for it, the time leading up to it, 86 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: I think it's extremely fragmented as well. And i'd be 87 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: interesting to see how many injuries you're gonna look at, 88 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: how many people are gonna look like they're a little rusty, 89 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: so I'm out of shape even so, I'd be very 90 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: interested to see how that's going to work out. So 91 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: it's pretty important guys to point out that while there 92 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: was football practice, it was basically a mini camp practice. Helmets, shorts, jerseys, 93 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: so uh, they don't put the pads on, or they 94 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: can put the pads on on Monday. So whatever they 95 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: did today and whatever they do Sunday, uh it'll be 96 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: uh in as a mini camp ota type practice, so 97 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: they won't be hitting and they don't have to put 98 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: the pads on Monday. They get fourteen padded practices over 99 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: uh twenty days once the Monday arrives, so uh, they're 100 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: gonna try to ease into this, and they've been doing 101 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: conditioning out on the field but not going up against 102 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: anybody today was the first time. The different thing to 103 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: try to get that timing down. You know, when you 104 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: try to get that timing down, it's it's totally different. 105 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're a veteran of your rookie. 106 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta you gotta get some LIXI in first, 107 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: and you gotta have to get a lot of them 108 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: in and we probably need to and we probably need 109 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: to qualify things because they were kind of going three 110 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: quarters speed maybe and there was hardly any There wasn't 111 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: really contact. It's like the offense and defensive lineman would 112 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: come up and just kind of hit, but not anything physical. 113 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: There wasn't really anything physical in the secondary of their linebackers. 114 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: It was touching up. So you're going to hear different 115 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: things about what took place and an interception that was thrown. 116 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: But let's let's qualify this, Okay, Let's not get too excited. 117 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: You know. I think the interesting thing about it from 118 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: an injury standpoint, you know, we see a lot of 119 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: injuries in normal years when training camp gets started, muscle pulls, 120 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And with the way things worked 121 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: out this offseason where they had no offseason except on 122 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: their own working out and really the veterans. Now the 123 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: rookies got in a week earlier than the veterans, but 124 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: the veterans that have been there since August first, basically 125 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: at the facility doing strength and conditioning and walk through 126 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: and so forth. And the fact that they don't have 127 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: preseason games that they have to prepare for initially, they 128 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: can afford. Actually, even it sounds strange, they can afford 129 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: to ease them in a little bit more. And they 130 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: need to ease him in a little bit more just 131 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that the Bill doesn't have those injuries. 132 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: A few connection problems right now. But yeah, and when 133 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned injuries and stuff, I guess I should probably 134 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: give you guys an update. They did take Tyrone Crawford 135 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: off of physically unable to perform, so he's off of 136 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: POP and he was able to practice today. This was 137 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: his first day. Don Terry Poe is still on it. 138 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: He was working with Britt Brown on the resistant chords, 139 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: so they're taking his a little bit slow. He had 140 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: a I believe it was a hamstring injury to end 141 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: the season, so they're bringing him back. So Brandon Knight 142 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: was over there working with Britt along with Lale College, 143 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: and so from an offensive line stamp point, it was 144 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: basically what you would have thought, Uh, with the exception 145 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: of Collins not being at right tackle. Uh it was 146 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: Wyatt some guy I never some guy had never heard 147 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: of before. Okay, it was Wyatt Miller. Wyatt Miller. See 148 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: Miller working at right tack. Yes, yes, So from an 149 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: injury standpoint, though they were in they were in pretty 150 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: good shape because everybody else was out there. So I 151 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: guess I since I brought up the offensive line Tyrone Crawford, uh, 152 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: Connor Williams, Connor McGovern kind of rotating there, Joe Looney 153 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: at center, uh Martin at right guard, and then Wyatt 154 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: Miller at right tackle. Yea, all right, Uh, okay, let's 155 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: talk about who's not there yet, because that was the 156 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: breaking news on Wednesday night. We got so much of 157 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: Mickey's observations about what he did see from his bird's 158 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: eye perched there at board center. But let's talk about 159 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: the name the guy that's named after Everson Everson Griffin. 160 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: As of course, Jerry has his State of the Team 161 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: address earlier in the day on Wednesday, and then on 162 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: Wednesday night the breaking news the Cowboys sign the pass 163 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: rusher that they needed to sign one year up to 164 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: six million dollar deal, three million dollar base reportedly, and 165 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin is a Dallas Cowboy. Now he has to 166 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: go through his COVID testing. I believe a couple of 167 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: negative COVID tests and he could be out on the 168 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: field as early as Tuesday, I believe. Is that right, Mickey, Yes, absolutely, 169 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: He's got to have the basically probably tested today, will 170 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: test tomorrow, and then test again on Monday, and then 171 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: if he gets the three negatives, he's allowed to be 172 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: back on the field on Tuesday. So you know what, 173 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: And I'm going to cut right to the chase. They 174 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: signed a bunch of guys this offseason that have been 175 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: former Pro Bowlers. This guy was a Pro Bowler last year, 176 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: and I think this might be their biggest offseason veteran 177 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: pick up of everybody they signed. I know, Gerald McCoy, 178 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: Don Terry po Haha, Clinton Dix, but this guy was productive, 179 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: had eight sacks last year. And this is the key 180 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: thing for me. And you guys know Mike Zimmer. Mike 181 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Zimmer doesn't mince words and he doesn't just say stuff 182 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: to say stuff to be politically correct. So when he 183 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: came out several weeks ago and said, we want Everson 184 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: Griffin back on this team, we want him here, then 185 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: to me, that kind of qualified that this guy still 186 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: got something ten years in the league, thirty two years old, 187 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: be really interested to see what he's able to do 188 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: once he gets here. How did you find that out? Oh, 189 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: apparently we lost Everson. Apparently we lost Everson. So just 190 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: one that was important because I wanted to find out 191 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: Jill how he how he knew he was named after 192 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: Everson Walls. Now we'll get Everson back here, Shorty got 193 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: you and h But I agree Mickey though that that 194 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin is the key signing of this offseason defensively. 195 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things about the Vikings, 196 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: uh my guy in the draft a few years ago. 197 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter plays on the other side for the Vikings 198 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: as about fifty sacks early in his career, and probably 199 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: one of the big reasons that Daniel Hunter has as 200 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: many sacks as he has is because Everson Griffin has 201 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: been on the other side and he's averaged. Griffin has 202 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: averaged ten sacks a season over the last six years. 203 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: But Everson Walls back with us now, and you know 204 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: he was Everson Griffin was a fourth round pick out 205 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: of USC and has had some issues along the way. 206 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: But as long as he is on board and and help, 207 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: he sounds just like his namesakes. I had a few 208 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: He sounds just like his namesake. I had a few 209 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: issues along the way as well, So that was part 210 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: of the course. But but I can't say that early on. 211 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: You're right, Bill, he did have some issues. He had 212 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: to grow up a little bit, had some issues off 213 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: the field as well, and then all of a sudden 214 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: he got it. And I really think that had a 215 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: lot to do with Mike Zimmer. I think spacts you 216 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: mentioned them earlier. I think that that defense, we saw it, 217 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: how well they played against the Cowboys last year, how 218 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: they they had these great athletes on the defensive line 219 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: and they were a catalyst, uh for that success on 220 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: that defense. One thing I like about him coming from Minneapolis, 221 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: from Minnesota here to here is I like how uh 222 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: with with the new defensive coordinator Nolan, that we're going 223 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: to have I think the similar style, very unpredictable blitzes, 224 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: which will allow things so open up for your defensive 225 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: lineman as well. More aggressiveness. Of course, you know I 226 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: was always complaining about the Cowboys defense previous years. I 227 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: think we're going to get back to the aggressiveness that 228 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: we need, and that's that really posed as well for Everson. So, Everson, 229 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: two questions for you. One, how did you find out 230 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: he was named after you? And two? How many other 231 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: Eversons have you run into in your life? Well, my 232 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: old agent, Steve Weinberg, you know, he was a pest 233 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: to Gil Brand and his text ram for quite some time. 234 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: As my representative, he was still out there, you know, 235 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: trying to make make make his name, get his name 236 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: out there and get some clients. And he was the 237 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: one that approached Everson Griffin and asked him a question. 238 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: And his parents just happened to be major Cowboy fans. 239 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know maybe the uniqueness of my name, 240 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: but the parents themselves, they settled on calling him Everson 241 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: a lot, being a Cowboys fan, but of course being 242 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: an Everson Walls fan as well. So I knew about 243 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: him as he was coming out of USC and it 244 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. So of course, you know me, I 245 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: have to do a search on how many Eversons are 246 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: out there, you know, so I looked it up a 247 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: little bit and went on Facebook, of course, and there's 248 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: a few. One guy, I know, it's one Everson. I 249 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: had a picture sent to me back in nineteen eighty 250 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: two and a young kid named Everson Eiders Marsh he was. 251 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: It was mailed to my home and he was also 252 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: named after me. And I've also been named as a 253 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: one of two twins just recently was born right before 254 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: this whole COVID thing with. So what's the story behind 255 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: your parents naming you Everson? We lost Everson again? You know. 256 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: One of the things, Uh, Mickey, you may recall this 257 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: early in Everson's career, TV broadcasters oftentimes mistook his name 258 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: and would call him Emerson Walls inside, Everson Walls. You 259 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 1: remember Emerson Boozer. Yeah, Everson Boozer. That's exactly what I 260 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: was thinking of. But Everson Griffin is a great pickup 261 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: I think for this team, and really, Mickey, when you 262 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: look at what this team has done, let's let's go 263 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: this route on this. Think about Dak Prescott's contract and 264 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: the thirty one point four million dollars because he is 265 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: franchise tag, I think he give a lot of credit 266 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: to the way Stephen Jones and think Will McClay the Cowboys. 267 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: They have worked this roster this offseason where they even 268 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: though they knew there was a possibility that Dak was 269 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: going to count that much against the cap, they have 270 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: managed this roster and the salaries on the roster to 271 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: the point that here as training camp starts, they're able 272 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: to bring on a big time veteran talent at a 273 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: position of need and sign him and have that kind 274 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: of money available because there's not a lot of teams 275 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: that could that could do that. And when you're you know, 276 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: you're thinking that, Okay, you might be able, you know 277 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: this contract that you're trying to negotiate with your quarterback, 278 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: you might be able to free up some space. But 279 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: for them to have the foresight that, hey, if we 280 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: don't get a deal done, we still need money to 281 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: add to this team. I give them a lot of 282 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: credit to be able to do that. Yeah, and we 283 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: have to remember it's kind of a one year, proven deal, 284 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: sort of what they did with Robert Quinn last year, 285 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's will count three million for sure, it's guaranteed, 286 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: and then he has a per game bonus that can 287 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: count another three million if he gets all the games. 288 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: So basically, for potentially six million dollars, they got a 289 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: replacement for at least a replacement that played last year 290 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: in the league at a high level for Robert Quinn, 291 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: who was counting a bill if I remember, it was 292 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: like seven and a half million maybe last year or 293 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: something like that. So yeah, it's it's kind of a 294 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: sweetheart deal. And obviously, you know, he opted out of 295 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: his contract that he had going in Minnesota to allow 296 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: him to become a free agent, and he took that 297 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: deal and played for less last year. So yeah, and 298 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: look at it this way. Coming into today, that right 299 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: defensive end spot had a big question mark up there, right, 300 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you how they lined up today. Over there, 301 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: Alden Smith lined up with the first team at right 302 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: defensive end. And he hadn't played any football since twenty fifteen. 303 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, he's wearing fifty eight and they've 304 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: got him listed at two eighty. He doesn't look, from 305 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: my bird's eye view more than two hundred sixty pounds. 306 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: He looks just the way you're supposed to look at 307 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: defensive end. And then, because I'm guessing them signing Everson 308 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Griffin and counting on Alden Smith. Tyrone Crawford, who I 309 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: mentioned came off of PUP today. He was the other 310 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: first team defensive tackle with Gerald McCoy since done. Terry 311 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 1: Poe is still on PUP. So that shows you the 312 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: versatility of Crawford, But what they think of Alden Smith 313 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: and after that, then it's guys that you know, didn't 314 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: do much at all last year. So to bring this 315 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: guy in and have a proven talent and put a 316 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: rotation there, I thought it was huge. You know, to 317 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: hear what you say that he looks more like he's 318 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: two sixty than two eighty, I think that is really encouraging, 319 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: because you know, there were the reports after the Cowboys 320 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: signed him that he was like two hundred and eighty 321 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: five pounds or something. I said, if he's two hundred 322 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: eighty five pounds, then he is he's more of a 323 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: five technique than he is and edge rusher. And to 324 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: hear but to hear that he looks like to Mickey's 325 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: bird's eye view, closer to two sixty. And I haven't 326 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: seen the official weight that he added at his physical, 327 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: but I think that is really really great news to 328 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: hear that he's in that kind of condition. Yeah, yeah, 329 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: I think not with him anyway, He's got that great 330 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: athletic ability, so he could probably just make make two 331 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: eighty five look like two sixty because he's just been 332 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: that exceptional. But what I like about what the coach 333 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: McCarthy's doing is he's bringing in the veterans. And the 334 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: thing about bringing in veterans, you have guys you can trust, 335 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: you understand. You want to make sure that you have 336 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: guys that you can trust. And they may not always, 337 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: you know, play consistently necessarily every game because some of 338 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: them are a little bit older, uh in in in 339 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: their careers, but what you can look at is they 340 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: will know the gravity of the moment. And that's one 341 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: thing that Parcells has always done, one thing that Belichick 342 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: has always done. They brought in veterans who understand the 343 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: gravity of the moment and you can trust them to 344 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: be in position every time that you need a play done. 345 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: And also these guys can bring along the young kids 346 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: in there and make sure that they understand, you know, 347 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: what it is to be a professional. So I think 348 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: what coach McCarthy's doing, it's a great game plan. Working 349 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: with Will, working with McLay and how he's bringing these 350 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: these quality veterans in and able to fit them under 351 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: the cap. This is this is looking pretty good, guys. 352 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: When you when you look at the entire architectural piece 353 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: of it's coming together very well. Okay, if if if 354 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: these a thirty something guys can stay healthy. Did the 355 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: math on it. There's fifteen Pro bowls on this defensive line. Now, 356 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence with a couple, Gerald McCoy with six, 357 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Dantee Jerry Poe with a couple, Everson Griffin with four 358 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Pro bowls, Alden Smith one Pro Bowl in his career. 359 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: I total it up, there are fifteen of Pro Bowl 360 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: accolades on that defensive line. 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How about we switched to the offensive side. 416 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: And if you're following Cowboys Twitter, by the way, rules 417 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: against for the media. There are rules against being able 418 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: to a shoot video off their camera their phone during practice, 419 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: and they can't tweet during practice. And so you can 420 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: always tell when practice is over because the Todd Archers, 421 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: Jade Slatter's, David Moore's of the Clarence Hills of the world, 422 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: they're all immediately John Mutchiel, They're they're all tweeting as 423 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: soon as so about ten twenty this morning, all of 424 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, you start seeing all these tweets from practice. 425 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: He's like they had these notes or they got the 426 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: tweets looted, ready to go, and then they can release 427 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: them right with practice is over. It was funny, but 428 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: one of the number one things did Mickey, did you 429 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: see ced Lamb with a one hitted catch on the sideline? 430 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: All I know, Bill and I remember when they drafted 431 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: Cede Lamb. My column right after that basically said, I 432 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: can't wait to the first time the Cowboys line up 433 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: on September thirteenth and Dak Prescott, you know whatever the 434 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: call is at the line of scrimmage three eighty one, 435 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: three eighty one, I said, I'm gonna see Michael Gallop 436 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: to one side, a Marie Coop to the left side, 437 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: and Cede Lamb in the slot. Well, when they first 438 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: lined up for the first kind of skeleton drill, that's 439 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: exactly how they lined up. They're not messing around. Number 440 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: eighty eight was out on the field with the first 441 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: team offense, and not only did he catch a one 442 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: handed pass, but he was catching everything thrown his way. 443 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: And you know the thing that impressed me most about it, guys, 444 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: and you know, when you hear about a guy that 445 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: has talent like that, you kind of think of a 446 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: guy that's five eleven, one seventy. This guy's big, he's tall, 447 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't look like your average slot receiver, the little 448 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: munchkin guy that can go in and out and real shifty. 449 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: This guy's got some size to him. So yes, right 450 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: away he was right there with the first team offense. Hey, Everson, 451 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: I love it when Mickey starts talking about little munchkin guys. 452 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: I would have been a slot receiver if I had 453 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: some speed. You would have been a slot receiver. Maybe 454 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: if you were born as another person. Yeah, that's probably 455 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: what would happen now. But but one thing I can 456 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: say about Ceedee Lamb. You talk about the style that 457 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: he has, why he's so well fit for the slot. 458 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, when you think about a guy like Michael Johnson, 459 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: the way he ran track and the way his stride 460 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: was so unique. It allowed him to have an advantage 461 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: because he kept his feet on the ground. When you 462 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: look at Ceedee Lamb and you look at the score 463 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: the plays that he made in college, one thing that 464 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: you could see was he was deceptively elusive. It didn't 465 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: look like he was running as fast as he was running, 466 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: just like Michael Johnson. But when you keep your feet 467 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: on the ground, you have more power with each stride. 468 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: So that's why he was able to play so many 469 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: tackles along with of course his size that you just 470 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: spoke of. So you know, this guy's gonna just fit 471 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: right in with the Cowboys offensive scheme. And once again, 472 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how many games the Cowboys are gonna win, 473 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: but once again, they're gonna be excit offensively and it's 474 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of balls going up in 475 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: the end. So you can expect that to increase with 476 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: the kind of talent that we just attained. And let 477 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: me add one more thing about CD Lamb. When they 478 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: were doing special teams guests, who was back there catching 479 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: tun puns? Yep, yeah, absolutely, and that's what he did 480 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma too, And me being an ou alum, I 481 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: watched every one of his games in college. You know, 482 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: when everyone's making a big deal about Marquise Hollywood Brown 483 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: with the Ravens, who is a first round draft pick 484 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: the year before, and what a terrific talent he is, 485 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: and take nothing away from him, he is a terrific talent, 486 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: especially as a deep threat. And Tony O'brown's cousin, I said, well, 487 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: just wait until CD comes out because I thought, you know, 488 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: CD the first time I saw him at OU as 489 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: a true freshman. I went, Wow, who's that guy? And really, 490 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: when you go back and look at what he did 491 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: in high school at Houston in Houston, unbelievable, the numbers 492 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 1: that he put up in high school. And so he 493 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: just continued that, uh into college, and I expect him 494 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: to continue that. Now there's only one football to go around. 495 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: But I think, assuming that that he stays healthy, even 496 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: without this offseason, I think he can be a guy 497 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: who can make an immediate impact of first game when 498 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys open the season in LA against the Rams 499 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: now less than a month from now. Mickey, Well, absolutely, 500 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: and uh, you know he's going to be a guy 501 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: that and and how about this, We've gone this far 502 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: and I haven't said the quarterback's name yet, but I 503 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: was gonna say Dak Prescott pointed out when he when 504 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: he was asked during his UH conference call on Wednesday 505 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: with Ceedee, Lamb and Gallup and Cooper and Zeke, uh 506 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: do you have enough footballs to go around? That he said, 507 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: I only need one football. And these guys, Uh, they're 508 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: they're not greedy. Uh, they're not egotistical. They're team players. 509 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: And that's the great thing about the group they have 510 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: because the flexibility they're going to have on offense, uh 511 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: is going to be something we haven't seen in quite 512 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: some time. All right, do we have Everson back there? 513 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: I think he's working on it, right, he's working on it. 514 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: Ever he's off right now, all you, Micky. There's been 515 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about the chances that the Cowboys 516 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: could have a trio of one thousand yard receivers um 517 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: and actually they came very close to it last year, 518 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: even with Randall Cobb. You know, if Randall Cobb, if 519 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: he hadn't had those uh those big plays that were 520 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: called back by penalty, the Cowboys would have had a 521 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: trio of a thousand yard receivers last year. Right. That's 522 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: why I I didn't understand why everybody was astounded, uh 523 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: that that that was said by by Maury Cooper, because 524 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: you're exactly right, the Onlie came up like one hundred 525 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: and seventy yards short of having three guys last year. 526 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: And then the other point was, well, if you have 527 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: three one thousand yard receivers, are you not giving the 528 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: ball to Zeke? Well, Zeke gained thirteen almost fourteen hundred 529 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: yards last year and they almost had three one thousand 530 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: yard receivers. And you're right, Bill, he had so many 531 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: passes called back by penalty that were not on him 532 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: that I guarantee you it was at least one hundred 533 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: and seventy yards worth and probably a couple more touchdowns. 534 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: So I think that, uh, you know, as Cooper said, 535 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, those are the expectations, and why not. You know. 536 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: Another thing as far as the receiving corps goes, is 537 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin. And I think I think if Jarwin stays healthy, 538 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: he's for sure doubling his receptions from last year. When 539 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: you when you factor in that Jason Witton always had 540 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: at least sixty catches and jars was in the low 541 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: thirties last year. He's going to double that. But how 542 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: about this, mickey, when you look at the contracts being 543 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: signed by tight ends, these receiving tight ends around the league. 544 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: This week, George Kittle gets a se reset the market 545 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year. Travis Kelsey on the heels 546 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: of that, gets an extension. He's now averaging fourteen million 547 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: a year. And one of the things the Cowboys did 548 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: early this offseason before pre agency hit, of course, Blake 549 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: Jarwin was a restricted free agent, they signed into a 550 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: three year, twenty four million dollar deal, and that was 551 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: a very shrewd move. Oh absolutely, you know. And if 552 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: you think about the plays he made last year, and 553 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: he wasn't the primary tight end target with Jason Witten 554 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: taking the majority of the snaps. There their ability to 555 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: stretch the field with the tight end. And again, you know, 556 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: you go three wide and I'll guarantee you that's going 557 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: to be their base offense for the majority of it. 558 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: You got to take a linebacker off the field. So 559 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: do you have a line backer that can cover Jarwin? 560 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Do you have a safety big enough to cover Jarwin? 561 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, what happens if they hand 562 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: the ball to Zeke and you got a linebacker out 563 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: of there trying to cover the tight end and you 564 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: got one linebacker trying to take care of the running game. 565 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just I'm expecting big things from this 566 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: offense and I'd be disappointed if that didn't happen. That's 567 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: why I think the key to this entire season, as 568 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 1: I've been saying, is how well this defense place and 569 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: if they can up their game and actually get some takeaways. 570 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: And if you remember when Layton vander esh was talking about, 571 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: you know, the defensive plays. He said, with this offense 572 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: that we have, we've got to get the ball back 573 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: to them, and imagine if they can get some takeaways 574 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: and if they can get some interceptions, right, can say 575 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: and I get a cornerback to get half as many 576 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: as Everson Walls had his rookie season. Of course, I 577 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: said that all last years, as great as that offense was, 578 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: we still needed your Your offense is still gonna need 579 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: a defense. I mean, Joe Montana still needed Ronnie Lott 580 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: and and and Dean and Fred Dean. You know, he 581 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: still needed a great defenses to set him up for 582 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: the plays. Even Tom Brady there were times when he 583 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: actually needed some help from his defense, especially last year. 584 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: This offense. Even though our defense had great numbers for 585 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: some reason we always rank highly, it was when we 586 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: needed to make those plays. I think that's the difference. 587 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: We have a defense now, I think is set up 588 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: to help these guys win plays. And when you start 589 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: talking about our tight end, and I've always liked him 590 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: and how well he played, h I think when you 591 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: compare him to those other tight ends, he still needs 592 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: to have a little bit more a little bit more 593 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: bulk because he needs to be a better If he 594 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: becomes a better blocker, then you can put him up 595 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: there in the category with those guys that just sign 596 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: those big contracts, because Jarwin, to me, one of the 597 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: more athletic, especially down the field tight ends that you 598 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: ever want to see. So now you've got a chance 599 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: to be a double threat like Jason Witten, like Kittle, 600 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: like Gronkowski. Those are the kind of guys you want 601 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: to live up to. So he's got to improve that 602 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: part of them to be the complete player that I 603 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: think he can be. That that's exactly right, and let 604 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: me clarify my point assuming because there's risk involved in 605 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: that end signing Jarwin to that contract, but they are 606 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: betting on his potential. They see that he's got that 607 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: potential and if they hit on him over the next 608 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: three years, he's making a half the amount of money 609 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: that the top tight ends in the league are making, 610 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: and they're betting on him having that production. It's also 611 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: going to be interesting, ever send to see how much 612 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: McCarthy in this offense with Kelly Moore as the offensive coordinator, 613 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: are going to use the two tight end formation twelve personnel. 614 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: Of course, they without witting they signed Blake Bell, who 615 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: was Travis Kelsey's back up at Kansas City, and they 616 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: also have Dalton Schultz at tight end, so it's going 617 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: to be interesting. Also a very decent athletic receiver as well. 618 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: I like Sheeltz as well. Very good, Mickey. Any other 619 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: observations that you saw, Yes, absolutely, Since we started talking 620 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: about takeaways and interceptions, we're gonna go right off Everson 621 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: Walls Alley here and talk about the cornerbacks and the secondary. 622 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: How they lined up. So the first skeleton drill basically 623 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: was the same as when they went somewhat eleven on eleven. 624 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: Shitab E Woozier was the first cornerback on the left side. 625 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: On the right side, the first cornerback up was Anthony 626 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: Brown with Jordan Lewis in the slot. But as they 627 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: moved along, Bo Whorley, the free agent corner the Cowboys 628 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: signed who started for the Raiders last year, rotated in 629 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: with the first team at cornerback on the left side, 630 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: and then the rookie Trayvon Diggs rotated in with Anthony Brown. 631 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: On the right side, it was Haja Clinton Dix along 632 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: with Xavier Woods at safety, and then Thompson and Donovan 633 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: Wilson came in with the second group, which, by the way, 634 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson picked up where he left off in training 635 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: camp last year and picked off a pass and I 636 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: believe it was on dec if my bird's eye view 637 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: was accurate. So that's kind of how they lined up 638 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: at cornerback. And you know, Everson, I think that position 639 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: there might be the most competitive position for playing time, 640 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: for starting jobs that the Cowboys might have because Daryl 641 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: Whorley is a good corner should have be a wooz. 642 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: I keep hearing this about how they're going to move 643 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: him to safety. Well, if they move them to safety, 644 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: he's not starting. So you got a guy that can 645 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: start at corner and you're gonna move them to another 646 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: position and then the right side. You know, I love 647 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: Digs When he had his first press conference and he 648 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: comes out and says, when they ask him, what's your goal, 649 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: he goes, my goal is to come here and compete 650 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: and compete hard. He goes, I want a starting job. 651 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: I love that in my corner. There you go, I 652 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: want you to be rash, I don't want you to 653 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: be me right, And then Anthony Brown. Remember they resigned 654 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: him to a three year, fifteen million dollar deal, so 655 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: they like him. And then everybody loves Jordan Lewis. Well, 656 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: we'll see where he fits in. So I think there's 657 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: five or six corners right now that are battling not 658 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: only for starting jobs, but for playing time. You know, 659 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: I like the thing I like about the Cowboys as 660 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: much as I complain about the secondary. I always like 661 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: the size that we had. You you had Vilan Jones, 662 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,720 Speaker 1: and now we still have a Woozier. You've got Diggs 663 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: coming in, who's a very good sized cornerback. But when 664 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: you start talking about making turnovers, it really, as far 665 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: as the athletic ability is concerned, that's always going to 666 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: be there. What you must have in the secondary is 667 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: someone back there that can help you understand what's coming 668 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: your way. The anticipation factor in the secondary has to 669 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: be high. You have to expect certain routes to show 670 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: at certain times of the game. Because you study, you 671 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: have to expect that when your defense is dialed up 672 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: and when that blitz is coming, that you can maybe 673 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: jump arount. You understand what your limitations are, you understand 674 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: what your strengths are. So when you talk about making turnovers, 675 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: you can be as physical as you want, but you 676 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: still have to know what the heck that wide receiver 677 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: is trying to do. So in order to make your plays, 678 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: you must study first of all, and you have to 679 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: anticipate making a play. I think with Diggs the way 680 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: I play him play at Alabama, he was able to 681 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 1: decipher certain plays that the offense was bringing towards him, 682 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: and he made the play. He saw what was coming, 683 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: he sniffed it out, and he used his brain as 684 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: much as he used his body. That's where we have 685 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: to look at how how Clinton Dix same thing. A 686 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: veteran that knows how to make plays. He could possibly 687 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: help our strong safety. He could possibly help our cornerbacks 688 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: understand the best way to play that particular wide receiver 689 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: because he's gonna be where he needs to be in 690 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: that secondary in order if they need help. So there 691 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: has to be a cohesiveness in regards to getting interceptions. 692 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: It has to become from an entire team standpoint, is 693 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: not from an individual standpoint, a team standpoint. But I 694 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: think the important thing to remember about Treyvon Diggs, He's 695 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: got all this potential. He doesn't have much experience. He 696 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: started for a full season last year at Alabama. He 697 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: was the starter the year before Alabama, but suffered a 698 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: broken foot and only was in six games the year 699 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: before and without an offseason. I think I think the 700 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys this offseason by signing Whorley and getting another veteran 701 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: guy in there, it buys some time for Digs. But 702 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: if dig shows here, you tell me ever since over 703 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: the course of the next month, even though he doesn't 704 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: have games to play in, if he shows in practice 705 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: that he can handle it, He's got the talent it 706 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: looks like to be able to handle it. It's just 707 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: from a mental standpoint, right, well, he's got to show 708 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: him something special. I mean, once again, you've got the 709 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: athletes out there. All of them are great athletes. Brown 710 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: is one of the quickest guys I think I've ever 711 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: seen at the cornerback position in a long time. But 712 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: if he's able to show that he can make plays 713 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: in a special way, in a unique way that the 714 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 1: other guys can't do, yeah, throw him in there. Come on, man, 715 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: it took me. I'm still mad. It took me five 716 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: games to start back in nineteen eighty one. I was leading. 717 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: I was leading the league interceptions. Before I was they 718 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: was to start, I was still on the bench. Come on, man, ever, 719 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: so what was your attitude? What was your attitude? You're 720 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent out of Grambling, your rookie year, 721 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: You're playing with your hometown team, trying to make the team. 722 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: Did you have that same attitude that I'm gonna start 723 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: my rookie year? You damn right, Bill, Okay, let's be 724 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: real about it. I was upset. I led the nation 725 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: and interceptions. I go for a free agent. I was 726 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: out for blood. Okay. I want to make sure you 727 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: embarrass any wide receiver I came up against. Now, when 728 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: I go up against Drew and Tony Hill, I was 729 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: the one that got embarrassed. But they also knew I 730 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: was gonna be there. I was going. I knew that 731 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: I could do something that the others could not do. 732 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: They I saw I was second. All right, all right? 733 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 1: We continue with more mix shots in just a moment, 734 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: observations from Cowboys training camp, the first practice of the 735 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy era, Just a moment. Since eighteen sixty five, 736 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: stetson hats are American maid with pride right here in 737 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: Texas and Stetson is proud to be on the field 738 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: with America's team. Want to show your Texas and Team 739 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: pride too, You can by purchasing your own Stetson. 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According 772 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: to the tweets that I saw from the Beat reporters 773 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: that were there, Mike McCarthy first emerged on the practice 774 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: field at precisely eight nineteen am. Is that what you 775 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: had on your clock, Mickey. I don't know that I 776 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: was clock and Mike McCarthy, but I do know that 777 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: when they when they started the stretching team stretch and everything, 778 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and the offense and I think most of 779 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 1: the defensive linemen were still in side, so I'm assuming 780 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: they were doing that in the Ford center and then 781 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: he came out with that part the offensive lineman and 782 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, who, by the way, Billy asked me for observations, 783 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks all had on red jerseys. Jerseys. Oh, that 784 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: was another thing that was trending on Twitter. The Cowboys 785 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have red jerseys on at practice. What a novel 786 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: concept that a football team has quarterbacks in red jerseys 787 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 1: during practice? Would somebody asked me? I said, does the 788 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: red jersey protect them from COVID nineteen two? Because that's 789 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: going to be most important. So I had to I 790 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: had to text Everson to find out because I can't 791 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, we did other than training camp. We didn't 792 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: get to watch the Cowboys practice back in the eighties, 793 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: as I remember, and so I needed to ask Everson 794 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: if Tom put the quarterbacks in red jerseys, and Everson, 795 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: you said, I said yes, but but as I recall, 796 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,720 Speaker 1: and I talked to Chris about this before you guys 797 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: even came on, I recall maybe red vests. I don't 798 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 1: know about red jerseys, but I think they had red vests. Yeah, 799 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think there you go. Yes, yes, 800 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: because they didn't have a number on it, just had 801 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: a vest, right, Yeah, they just put that. And I 802 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 1: don't remember the last time the Cowboys did that. I 803 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: can't remember. I don't recall Parcels doing it because he 804 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: always wanted everybody to be tough, So I don't know 805 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: that he did it. And I couldn't remember if Jimmy 806 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: put him on there or not. You know, maybe when 807 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: Troy came back in ninety three after his uh June 808 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: surgery back surgery, I believe it was, you know, maybe 809 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: they protected him and they basically and here here's how 810 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: well Troy Aikman listened. So it's a preseason game and 811 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: they basically said, you know, don't on data, DA, And 812 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: it's a preseason game. And he takes out of the 813 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: pocket around the ten yard line because he's gonna score 814 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown, by God in a preseason game, and he 815 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: dives for the end zone. It was his last play 816 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: of that preseason where you got here after that? Didn't 817 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: he later in the season. Yeah? Absolutely, I think Start 818 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 1: did the same thing. A Mickey wants some other observations 819 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: you had out there? Well, here here what happened at 820 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 1: practice today? Tell us here, here's what's Here's what's weird 821 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: about watching practice from where we did at my desk 822 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: inside the Start. There's no noise. It's quiet. Well that'll 823 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: be just like the games this year then, right, it 824 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: was just quiet the Red Jerseys. I also noticed, you know, 825 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: normally they had one judge machine to throw passes to 826 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: the receivers or the dbs. They had eight of them 827 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 1: out there. Now I didn't know if that was a 828 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 1: protection thing, so everybody wasn't touching the same footballs or what, 829 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: But there were eight jug machines out there. And I 830 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: mentioned Alden Smith. He's got some length, you guys, because 831 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: he batted a pass at the line of scrimmage and 832 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 1: he didn't really have to jump. He just got his 833 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,479 Speaker 1: hands up and knocked a pass down. So I did. 834 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,760 Speaker 1: I did notice that for sure. You know, I mentioned 835 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: the cooling tents already, the fact that they took a 836 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: break and they're kind of monitoring it, and there wasn't 837 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: loud music. I don't think was playing at least I 838 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: couldn't hear it so so that that was noticeable. And 839 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: I heard the music at the break, but that was 840 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 1: really it. So I give you how guys lined up 841 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: the linebackers obviously Layton, vander Esh Jalen Smith. And when 842 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: they're playing Nickel like that, it's kind of hard to 843 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: tell who's in the middle and who's not. But Layton 844 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: said he would be in the middle. Jalen was going 845 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: to be on the on the weak side. And one 846 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: of the things I noticed quite a bit with Alden Smith, 847 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 1: so he's playing that right defensive end spot. A lot 848 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,240 Speaker 1: of times they just had him standing up. They didn't 849 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: have his hand on the ground, So I don't know 850 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: if that gives him a head start or what, but 851 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 1: I thought that of a hybrid defense. If it was, 852 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: then they were off centered because they had two defensive tackles. 853 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: Uh and then DeMarcus Lawrence had his hand on the 854 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: ground on the other side. I don't recall if Alden 855 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: Smith was was you know, either did he favor either way? 856 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: Standing up? I would call him always with his hands down. Yeah. 857 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember, but the the 858 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: thing is when even even with three four teams, when 859 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: they're in the nickel, they're in a four man front 860 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 1: and Russian uh just like what you would see a 861 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: fourth in a fourth three defense. So um so most 862 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: of what we saw, Bill, they were in nickel defense. Yeah, 863 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: all right, So what do you make of Layton and 864 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: the base defense moving to middle linebacker? I thought it 865 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: was going to be a natural progression for him. His 866 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: command of the scheme, his recognition, uh, and his ability 867 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: if you want your middle linebacker dropping into coverage. I 868 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: think was better than Jalen Smith. You know, I know 869 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 1: Jalen ended up going to the Pro Bowl, but I 870 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: don't think that was his best year. Uh So uh, 871 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: you know what. I what I liked the fact that 872 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,720 Speaker 1: day one, Layton Vanderish was on the field. And remember 873 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: we found that out when we interviewed as agent Ron Slaven. Gosh, 874 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: that was a couple of months ago, wasn't it, Bill? Uh? 875 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: He told and he told us that, uh that that 876 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: Layton Vandersch was ready to go, and and yeah, there 877 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 1: was no limitations for him out there, uh either, you know, 878 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: the other guy that that that kind of showed up, 879 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: and two other guys. Tristan Hill looked like he kind 880 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: of reshaped his body a little bit in the offseason 881 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: and he seemed a little bit more active. And the 882 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: one corner that we haven't talked about. I was talking 883 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: with Will McClay the other day. He said, don't go 884 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: to sleep on Chris Westrey. Remember he was a rookie 885 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: free agent last year, like six three sixty four, and 886 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: they loved they still love his size even though he 887 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: was on the practice squad. And then I think he 888 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,760 Speaker 1: did he ended up on ir I'm trying to remember, 889 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: but they still like position quarterback at that size. Yes, yes, 890 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: oh interesting. So those were the things that probably, uh 891 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: most stood out to me. But yeah, the quietness of 892 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: watching practice was is a little different. You know. The 893 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: other thing that people would be talking about on the 894 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 1: offensive line, Connor Williams was out there with the first 895 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: team at left guard right. Yeah, absolutely, And Mike McCarthy 896 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: did say in the kickoff press conference that you know, 897 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: it's Connor Williams, but we kind of got him ease 898 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 1: him in there. We can't, you know, he's still not 899 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:27,799 Speaker 1: Gosh's he nine months removed from probably into nine or 900 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: ten months, yeah, from the ACL surgery. So uh so 901 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: that he took you know, he was out there first 902 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 1: and then they rotated, Uh, Connor McGovern in there. I 903 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 1: didn't see be a dish taking any first team snaps 904 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 1: at center, But I'm going to keep an eye on 905 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 1: that one because, as I keep saying, he's the only 906 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: guy on this team that took considerable snaps at center 907 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: last year on a football field, and that was at 908 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: University of Wisconsin. I get it, but Joe Looney played 909 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: guard last year. He really didn't get into the game 910 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,720 Speaker 1: much other than cleanup time at center. So he hadn't 911 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: played center since twenty eighteen. Everybody keeps talking about Connor 912 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 1: McGovern had played center in college. Well, he hadn't played 913 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 1: center at Penn State since twenty seventeen. Sou and Adam Redman, 914 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: who they thought was going to be the backup center 915 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: last year or at least compete for it, ended up 916 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: on injury reserve. He never played in a game, So 917 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 1: to be interesting to see how quickly the rookie adapts 918 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: at the center position. You know, when you one thing 919 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: about this though, when you look at the injuries. Some 920 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 1: that are completely healed, like tyl On Crawford coming off 921 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: the pup list, which is man, God blessing. I feel 922 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 1: so good for him. You look at Layton Vanderish who 923 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: has completely healed with his NECKT surgery. I think the 924 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 1: quick well really no preseason, but the quick training camp 925 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: and early started the season. I think that would bold 926 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 1: better for those two. They won't have to get bogged 927 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: down with a lot of practice. They don't have to 928 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 1: worry about getting, you know, having to recover too much 929 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: from those injuries because they're going to be into the 930 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: season so quickly. But when when you look at someone 931 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: like like Connor, he's not completely healed yet, so it 932 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: would be the opposite for him. It's gonna take him 933 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: a while, I think, before he's able to get back 934 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: into full strength. So it works both ways depending on 935 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: where you are in your rehab. But vander Esh and Crawford, 936 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 1: I think it worked better for them than it did 937 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: for Connor. Another veteran guy the Cowboys signed this offseason, 938 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. How strange was at seeing Andy Dalton in 939 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: a Cowboys uniform. It was it was very nice to 940 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: see him, and the thing that stood out to me 941 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: about him is how accurate he is. He passes are 942 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: right on the button. He does not miss guys, and 943 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: and and he's splitting numbers, so he throws a very 944 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: catchable ball. He's still moving well. Uh and and again, 945 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the best free agent signings 946 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: on defense. What what he brings to this offense? A 947 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: veteran presence h and a guy that probably makes you 948 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: sleep a lot better at night if you're the head coach, 949 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,919 Speaker 1: knowing and I've got a guy that's played in this 950 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: league as my backup quarterback just in case. I think 951 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: that was a huge uh get for the Cowboys, you know. 952 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: And that's another one of those things, you guys that 953 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 1: just kind of falls in their lap, right, you know, 954 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin who thought the Cowboys could sign him right, 955 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: kind of falls in his lap after making the Pro 956 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: Bowl the previous season. That's even better. And who thought 957 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: that CD Lamb was gonna fall in their lap at 958 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: seventeen or digs in the second round. And then Dalton 959 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 1: because of his ties here living here and Cincinnati was 960 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: ready to move on, he falls in their lap and 961 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: he signs a one year prove it deal. How much 962 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: more good fortune can you have. Yeah, when you're talking 963 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 1: about when you're talking about veterans, they can take that 964 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: one year and you expect them to do something with it. 965 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: It's not like they need to well, let me get 966 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: the system down or whatever. You're talking about guys that 967 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 1: are used to making plays, big plays in playoff games 968 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: and championship games, so now you expect them to do 969 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 1: the same thing for you. You know, with the signing 970 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: of a three time Pro Bowl backup quarterback in Andy 971 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: Dalton with Everson Griffin, you can understand, and other signings 972 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: from Gerald McCoy to done Terry Poe, all these veteran guys, 973 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: you can understand where Stephen Jones is coming from when 974 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: he said on Wednesday that he feels like this roster 975 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: and in this situation they have right now is as 976 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: good to contend as they've had in five or two 977 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: in years here. Yeah. Absolutely, And I don't know if 978 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 1: that caught everybody by surprise, but he's right. If you 979 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 1: just look at the veteran presence they brought in along 980 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: with the youth that they have and the guys they've 981 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: been developing for the last three or four years. Uh. Yeah, 982 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's a heck of a mix. And you know, 983 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: I would have to go back and look player by 984 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: player by player, But Dalton might be the best backup 985 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 1: quarterback they've had. How far back you want to go? 986 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Since they had Dak Prescott as the backup coming in, 987 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 1: that doesn't count, Okay, since Tony Romo, Since Tony Romo 988 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: was the backup today we have did we have Burline? 989 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: At one point was going to go back to Burline. 990 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: That's where I was going. That's why Burl Romo when 991 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 1: he was the backup, wasn't even proven right In the 992 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 1: first year he was the backup, he never played, ye 993 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: and he didn't really play until he took over the 994 01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: starting job in uh two thousand and six or yeah, 995 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. I was gonna say, I gotta 996 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,479 Speaker 1: go back to Burline or Rodney Pete or our guess, 997 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Wade Wilson, probably with experience that he had in the 998 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: success he had a couple of years he was here 999 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: as the backup quarterback. Don't forget you had Vinnie in 1000 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: there too, and you had bled so and I don't know, 1001 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 1: only I believe only Burline was the one that helped 1002 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 1: him keep that Super Bowl pace up as they went 1003 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. I think they won the Super Bowl 1004 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,920 Speaker 1: that year, correct, Well, yeah, he came, he came in 1005 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 1: and when that was the year, the year before ninety one, 1006 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 1: they won five in a row and then they lost 1007 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: to the Lions in the playoffs in the second round. 1008 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 1: They beat you and the wow it got round we 1009 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 1: could and was terrible. All right, we'll talk at you 1010 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: again next week. In the meantime, Thursday, Bill, I believe 1011 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: we're going to be back in our Thursday eleven am. 1012 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 1: All right, dame, we'll see you next week here on 1013 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: mix Shots. 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