1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Bright. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: All right, job all across the USC Compton watch Bank 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: to La, come on to California, say from aalley to valley. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: We represent that Keller County. So if you're keeping it 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: real on your side of your town, you're tuning into 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: Gainst the Chronicles. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: Chronic goals. He gonna tell you how we goals. If 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: I lie, my nose will grow like Pinocchio. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truths. 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: The chronic goals. This is not your average shows. 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: You're now tuned into the rail mc ain't Big Change 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: and Big spieltrictly from the streets. 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome to the Gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: of iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: you download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen. 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: Subscribe to Against the Chronicles. Leave a start rating the 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: comment what's happening, what's happening? What's happening tonight? We have 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: a very we got a very very special guest in 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: the house tonight. He was born to the world as 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: Rowdy Williams, but you know him as Gangster Nipping already. 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: Broadcasting live all the way from Houston, Texas. What's happening 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: with you? Brother? 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm just telling man, Guard is good. You know, 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm just blessed to be here. Man. You know what 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I appreciate you for having me, for sure. 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: That's what's up for sure, man, Thank you for coming on. 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: Man. 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 3: We've had a lot of people. Man. You know, when 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: I started mixing the album a few weeks ago, I 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: started getting people hitting me up on an inbox like 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: gangs Nip. That's my he produced one of my favorite 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: albums of all time, south Park Cycle before. But before 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: we get into that, man, we got to go back 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: way to the beginning. Wait at the beginning. So we 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: were born and raised in Houston the right, Yes, sir, 37 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: south Park? South Park to be yes, sir, south Park. Yeah, 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: that's your hood, man, tell me a little bit about it. Man. 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, South Park is just you know, it's just 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: a rugged you know, it's like any other hood. Man, 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: it's a rugged hood. Man. You know, you gotta be strong, 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, to live there. You know. I went to 43 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Kelso Elementary, Hartman Junior High and Jesse H. Jones High School. 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: You know, you know when you got you know, your killers, dealers, hustlers, stillers, 45 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Man. Like I say, it's just the 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: average hood man. You just got to be strong to 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: live there. 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: Okay. Now, when you were in high school, I think 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: your high school is known for having for your rappers, 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: right you had a lot of rappers to attend high school, right, Yes, sir, 51 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: Who were some of those people? 52 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: Man? We had like. 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 4: We had like clen Day Cat, you. 54 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: Know, s PC. 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 4: Shout out to clund Day Cat. 56 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: You know. We had murder one, you know, murder one. 57 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: Shout out to the INSTC Murder one. You know. We 58 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: had a C. Chill Ac Chill is a brother won 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: our INSC brothers that passed away. But he was right there. 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: He was right there with us the whole time. He 61 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: was cold blooded too. 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: You know, we had a guy by the name of 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 4: k Rock Deaf. K Rock Deaf was you know what 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: I'm saying he was. 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: He was one of the generals, you know in the school. So, 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, in high school at the time, clund Day Cat, 67 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, before I learned how the. 68 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: Rap, you know, Clunday Cat was the best. You know 69 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So you know I hung with Cat. 70 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 4: We was real good. 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: We was real close. You know. That's how I learned 72 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: how to rap, just hanging you know, but I didn't 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: know you know what what I had, you know inside 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: of me, you know. So you know Cat was the one, 75 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, to help bring it out, not by anything 76 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: for me, but just you know, just rubbing off on me. 77 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: Just the scheme of rap, you know what I'm saying. 78 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: So that's what it was. 79 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: And when Kat left, that's when I took over. 80 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: You know, I hadn't got seasoned, so I started, you know, 81 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: battle rapping for money. 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: You know, cats would come. 83 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: To you know, to my school too, you know, the 84 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: battle rap. And back then, man, you know, brother ain't 85 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: had no money or nothing, you know what I'm saying. 86 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: But you know I had the gangsters. Man, the gangsters 87 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: are puting money on me because remember I was the 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: best in the school, so the gangsters will put money 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: on me. You know, I flipped that money by blowing 90 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: the you know, the MC who came to the school 91 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: and then they'll give me a piece of the money. 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: So that's how it was at Jones, man, it was 93 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: it was just it was just hardcore rappers. Man. We 94 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: had more it's so many more, but you know in 95 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: the nurse chair that you know, those were like the 96 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: top names. 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: It was the main ones. Now, your style was very unique, 98 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: very descriptive, very visual. That was one of the things 99 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: that come me in. Like I said, when I got 100 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: hit to you, it was through my boy shut Out 101 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: quint Cazeno, my roommate New Mexico State University. When I 102 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: was playing ball. He had hit me. You know, the 103 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: south Park cycle. It was very descriptive. But you had 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: flows though, bro and side was very original. When did 105 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: you come up with the whole horror coret because you 106 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: are the inventdor of horror court that whole genre just 107 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: descriptive violence and madehem. That's the only way I can 108 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: describe it. How did you come up with that? 109 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: Well? Man, real, I really didn't. 110 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: You know. 111 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: My idol is Ice team, you know what I'm saying, 112 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: rhyme wise, and my other ilel is two short, So 113 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: I have the music of a two short, but I 114 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: have the hard rhymes you know of an ic C. 115 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: So I just I used to just listen to Ice 116 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: Tea a lot, man, you know, and I just like 117 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: how hard he was because nobody was doing the gangster 118 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: rap and ice was so hard, you know, and that's 119 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: just you know, that's really ought of me, you know, 120 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: to where to how I wanted to rap. But I 121 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: didn't know that it was gonna go deeper, you know 122 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that. You know, then gangster rap, horror 123 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: court is deeper than against the rap is more. It's 124 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: more vivid, you know, it's more, it's more detailed, it's 125 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: more imagery. And you have to have a you know, 126 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: you have to have a certain skill stick, you know. 127 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: So the homie Bushwick rest in peace. He was doing 128 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: an interview with a guy named nord Ward and a 129 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: white guy in in Austin, I think, doing one of 130 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: those what's that south by Southwest? And he asked, he asked, Bushwie, 131 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: did I create hard Court? Bushwick said no. He said 132 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: he didn't have to create it because his horror court, 133 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't gonna he said, he wasn't gonna 134 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: get any other style, and and they wasn't. You know. 135 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 4: That's that's all I ever did. I was I was 136 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: wrapping her hold court Man eighty three, eighty four. 137 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: I just didn't know it was hardorcle. I called it 138 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: psycho rap. You know, that's what I called it, psycho rap. 139 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: You know, I was trying to go back to one 140 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: of not to cut you off. I want to go 141 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: back to one of the most profound lyrics I heard 142 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: on your album, merriags me and your mama getting married 143 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: soon after If for I'm a killer at the honeymoon, 144 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: that's how you know, that's real descriptive. And I think 145 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: you did take things to a whole nother level because 146 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: you wouldn't know that. It wasn't just that she was 147 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: on there saying the craziest stuff. It was the way 148 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: you delivered it. It sounded real. Man. I was like, man, 149 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: this dude is off the chain. 150 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Well, you know, like I said, man, you know, I'm 151 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: from South Park, you know, yeah, you know you had 152 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: to be hard in south Park. You know, you have 153 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: to be able to make it through. You know, Onner 154 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: the Star would survive. You know. I was just a 155 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: young souldierack there, just you know, creating my own style 156 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: battle rapping whoever came, you know, and I just was 157 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: just just strong on them, just with stuff that they 158 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: never heard. Remember, was never hurt nobody, you know, nobody 159 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: wasn't doing it. 160 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: So I didn't know I was doing it. 161 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: I was just doing my normal style that I that 162 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: that I rapped in, you know what I'm saying. So 163 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: I never really knew that that the industry with coining, 164 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, to be horror core. You know, like I said, 165 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: I started, I called a psycho rap. 166 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: Mhm. It was damn sure. A lot of people that 167 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: followed after you after you released that album. That was 168 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: a very important album to hip hop because you did 169 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: ushering a new style with a lot of people from 170 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: I could think of a few people off the top 171 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: like Brother Link, se E, Sean Maud of Detroit, even Eminem. 172 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: It had a real heavy influence on a lot of people. 173 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: And how did you get discovered? Like how did you 174 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: look up a rap? A lot? 175 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: Man? I like to say, shout out to Scarface? Man 176 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: was it was through Scarface? You know. I was at 177 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: a club called Club Infinity, and every Friday night they 178 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: would have rap contests, know every Friday night. So what 179 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: happened was, you know, I ended up winning like three three, 180 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,239 Speaker 1: three times straight and that third time, you know, Scarface 181 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: was there. He he had just dropped you know, the 182 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: first original Scarface you know, small time dope game cold 183 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: Caine pushing rocks on the block. I'm never broke, and 184 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He had just dropped that, 185 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: and he was there for that third that third contest, 186 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: and I won. So you know, he came to me 187 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: and he and he said he wanted he wanted to 188 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: let Jay Prince hear me. So I told him, just 189 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: you know, bring him, you know, next, you know, next Friday. 190 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: So he actually brought him. So I won again. So 191 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: I won four times straight. So after that, Jay took 192 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: me in the restroom, you know with the with the brotherhood, 193 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: with the you know, you know, with the killers, and 194 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: he wanted me to just straight up wrap, no beat, 195 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: no nothing. So I was just going just rhyme for rhymes, 196 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: hard as fuck to just shit that he had never heard, 197 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: he had never heard. Keep in mind, this was a 198 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: Friday night. So I was beating all on the motherfucking 199 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: mirrors and shit, you know what I'm saying. I was 200 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: hitting the mirrors, breaking the mirrors. Man, I was straight 201 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: syped out. So after he heard me, you know what 202 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, he loved it. So he had asked me 203 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: to come back to that same club Saturday morning meet 204 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: him there like twelve o'clock. Once I met him there, 205 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: I had a CD with everybody on it. I had 206 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: Dopiel of the Terrace, I had Ka Reno, I had 207 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: point Blank, I had Murder of One, I had ac Chill, 208 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: I had all the fellas on the CD. 209 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: But Jay said he just wanted me to go solo. 210 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: And then when he said that, he cut me a 211 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: check right then and there inside of his car, cut 212 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: me a chick. And two hours after that I was 213 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: riding BMW. 214 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: So your whole life changed just in the matter with 215 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 3: a chance meeting the scarface. Let me ask you this. 216 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: Let me go back, because that sounds like a movie 217 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: to me. You in the bathroom rapping for Jay Princeton, 218 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: you seeing the type of stuff that you said up 219 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: but they they're just mesmerized here you rap. 220 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: You know that style was so hard, man, you couldn't 221 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: you couldn't do nothing but be mesmerize. And that ship 222 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: was you know, it was so it was so vivid, 223 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But at the same time, man, 224 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: you know I was about that ship, you know what 225 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know I was I was robbing 226 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: you know, coming up, man, you know you remember I 227 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: think it was like horror moving rap. Tise. Could the 228 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: task it? Man? You know? Now think about it, Chinsk, 229 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: get a task it. The name of that song is 230 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: horror movie rap. That's how the industry coined it, horror 231 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: core from my song horror movie rap. 232 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: For those that don't know, man, because your style is 233 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: so descriptive, man, could you give me like eight bars 234 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 3: from that man? Just just eight of them, man, not 235 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: all of them, not the whole thing for those that 236 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: might never heard of it? 237 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: Which which one? 238 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: Now? Let me give you. 239 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 4: Let me give you that on. 240 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: Let me steal a psycho ass nigger. I'm dissing your crew. 241 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: If you don't like the way I wrapped tough ship, nigga, 242 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: fuck you. Time for a murder, I'm thinnykick ass breastfeed 243 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: new born babies with unlady gas, blood gushing out. Your 244 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: head is getting thicky and thicker. Put some tockling on 245 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: your arm so it can taste like a snicker. You 246 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. 247 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that ship. And I just picture because 248 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: I know Jay, right, I just could picture Jay's being 249 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: back there, like, oh my god. 250 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Now picture this shit. This ship was this ship was 251 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: late late ninety mm hmm. This shit was ninety man. 252 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: I was kicking that shit, you know. So he couldn't 253 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: do nothing, man, And shit was just so it was 254 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: so distinctive, man, that's all the world. It was just 255 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: something that he never had, you know. So he had 256 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: to grab that, man. 257 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: And it took off. So now you want to wrap 258 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 3: a lot fold. You got you a check. How soon 259 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: did y'all get to work with Craft and the album? 260 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, soon soon I got that check, man, probably 261 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: about I said about a good week. Now. You know, 262 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 1: I was at the studio, you know, with Dope E, 263 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: you know egypt E, the terrorists, you know John Beato, 264 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: you know Biato did a lot of scarf play stuff, 265 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: you know, had them drum. Yeah, he actually did that 266 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: that song Psycho. You know, he did that cycle with 267 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: I just spit so Beato Beato. 268 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 4: Once cold blooded man. 269 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: You know. So I was in there, you know, like 270 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: I said, with Dope E egypt E, we did a 271 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: tisket a task and we did the guy to get 272 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: out the game. Beato did the you know, the Psycho, 273 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: and it was just you know, it's just what it was. 274 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: I was, like I said, I was just a young 275 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: nigga out there just just battle rapping. Man, it just 276 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: happened to, you know, be at the club winning these 277 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: contests and faces. 278 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: You know, just happened to be there. Man. 279 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: Shout out to Scarface, Shout out to J Prince. You 280 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, I owe them, Owe 281 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: them everything, man, So you know it's all love. 282 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: Like the homie sugar Free say, if you stay ready, 283 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: you ain't got to be ready. You was prepared for 284 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: the opportunity and to happen for you. You know, let 285 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: me ask you this. So y'all working on the album, 286 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: and any time did anyone from Rap a Lot ever 287 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: come to you and say, hey man, you know we 288 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: dig what you're doing, but can you tone it down 289 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: a little bitter? They just let you just go full 290 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: gas sit you. 291 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: Know, Rap a Lot he's gangster man. Let me They 292 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: let me go. 293 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: They let me go. 294 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: That's how I was able to write the check it 295 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: for Bushwick. 296 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: Oh for sure we're gonna get were gonna get into 297 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: that right there. We're gonna get into that right there. 298 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: So how long did it take for you guys to 299 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: record the album? Because I know sometimes for me working 300 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: in the industry, you may and the time you signed 301 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: someone until they actually get to release they projects. Sometimes 302 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: it may be two or three years. How long did 303 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: it take before you got your release date? 304 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: See? About three months? Man. We dropped it late. We 305 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: got to late ninety one. You know, the industry got 306 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: it set up to where it was like ninety two, 307 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: But it was actually December of ninety one. 308 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: So December ninety one, that's when it first came off. 309 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said about Like I said, man, it ain't 310 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: take about I say about three months because you know, 311 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: other people had had to get in the studio on 312 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: all that. But it ain't taken about three months because 313 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: I was you know, back then, we had all our 314 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: round to memorize so I could go in there. 315 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: All I needed was to beat, and I was just 316 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: going there and just just. 317 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: Fit the shit. Man, you know what I'm saying. 318 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. Man, the album comes out, 319 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: you start doing shows and everything. I can just imagine 320 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: the type of crowd that you conjure up at your shows. Man, 321 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: is it all like God's look to it? 322 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: Man? That ship Man was so raw, you know, just 323 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: just just just the gangsters. Man. The hardest the most 324 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: ruthless you know people, you know, yeah, just come out 325 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: to the shoulder, you know, to hear that shit. That's 326 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: it was just so different. It was just different, man, 327 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like the big HOMEI Shaq. 328 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, I just talked to Shack Monday. You know, 329 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Monday was my birthday. You know, yeah already you know. 330 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: Sequille O'Neil is one of my biggest fans, and you 331 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: know I had the opportunity to talk to him Monday 332 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: and he was just telling me man, you know, you 333 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: know basically how you know how big old fan he was. 334 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: He'd been my fan. They used to come down there, 335 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: come to Houston when when Shaq was rapping, and he 336 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: would be asking rapper out where I was. I might 337 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: have been out of town, you know, doing the show. 338 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: You know this, Shaq would always holler at me, man, 339 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: So I like to stay shout out to Big Shack 340 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: one Love. You know that's the diesel man, that's my 341 00:16:59,000 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: knees of her. 342 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: Well, you got a lot of fans, man, My big 343 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: bro Bobcat, my god brother DJ Bobcat. I remember we 344 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: were listening to the it was the Ghetto Boys album. 345 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: I forget which one he is. It might have been 346 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: to death Dowist Apart. Yeah, and you had a and 347 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: that's when he discovered you. And I was playing in 348 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: the CD or whatever and he heards your first he said, 349 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: who is that right there sitting in shirts drinking the 350 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: forty of hold? 351 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: That was that brand? That was that song bringing on 352 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: Man you Gassed? Yeah, that was a battle rap song. 353 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: That was one of the verses man, that really that 354 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: really helped spawned me as well, you know what I'm saying, 355 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: everywhere I go, I'm talking about right today, any where 356 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: I go people you know, they spent that verse, you know, 357 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: all the time everywhere. Man, you know, we smoking motherfucker. 358 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: Plus I keep doovies. I'm the one who told that 359 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: nigga to go and singing in that Lovis And what's 360 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: so crazy? I went to the end of the day 361 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: at Levis. 362 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me ask you this man, with your lyrics, 363 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: man being so over the top. Back then, a lot 364 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: of rappers was catching heat, like you know, they was 365 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: over there running brother CDs over, putting them in the 366 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: trash and all kind of stuff. Did you ever have 367 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: the rappert that we have any issues man, which as 368 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 3: far as your music, No. 369 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: They never had any issue with me. Like I said, Man, Jay, 370 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, Jay wanted people around him. That was you know, yeah, 371 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: I get that. 372 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: I'm talking about the outside forces. I'm talking about like 373 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: the law enforcement and everything like that, because you were talking, Yes, 374 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: that's I ain't talking about the fame. I'm talking about 375 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: society in general. 376 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know you had a I was on 377 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: the news, you know, probably like ninety three on the 378 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: news when a you know, when a guy killed a 379 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: cop man and they said he was he was he 380 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: was branging my song, you know, Slaughter. Slaughter was the 381 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: cop killing song on you know, on the on the 382 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: on the album, and he was banging my mother fuck 383 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: the song. They had my lyrics all on TV, all 384 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: on the news, you know, and you know, dope, E 385 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: are the terrorists SPC. You know. I think he had 386 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: got pulled over, you know, and I think he told 387 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: the cops who he was, and they asked about men 388 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: what they snip at man, you know, you know, but 389 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: it's all good man. But I was just raw man, 390 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: you know. So they would always have my shit on 391 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: the news, you know, putt my lyrics out there, you know, 392 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: saying this saying that. But shit, like I said, man 393 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: back then, I ain't give a fuck. You know, I'm 394 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: gonna pick that ship, you know what I'm saying. You 395 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: know how it goes. You know, I got I got 396 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: one right now. The new song you leave us no choice, 397 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: that's the name of the song. So be looking for 398 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: that that's coming soon. 399 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 400 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: I always like to shut off to the trolls out there. 401 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: You know, it's always one dumb motherfucker. You're talking about 402 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: one thing, and it's always one dude to come on 403 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: the show talk about some whole others. Bye bye chump. 404 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: But anyway back to this, well. 405 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: You know, man, you know I fuck with the trolls 406 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: because you know, you know a lot of time the trolls, 407 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, may not really trolls. They just uneducated to 408 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: the to who created the style. You know, they're just uneducated, man. 409 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 410 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: That's why I keep me in ink pin. 411 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 4: You know, I keep an ink pin for the trolls. 412 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: Now. My mama always told me a black man always 413 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: got to have an ink pin, you know, just in 414 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: case you need you need to sign a check. You 415 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Oh, cut a Nick, here we go. 416 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: I would expect you. I would expect you to be 417 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: card a rounds and stuff like that. So the dope 418 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: part about that though, man, you being on rap a lot, 419 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: none of that deterred them from pushing forward with you, 420 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: because usually the those major record labels, when they have 421 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: any type of resistance, they get scared to pull the 422 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: plug on everything. 423 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think they didn't really know, you know, 424 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: really how to promote it, man, So I just think 425 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: they put that shit. You know, they let it go 426 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: on the underground. Man, they let it go on the 427 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: underground just to see what, you. 428 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: Know, what it would do. 429 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I hit Billboard with no promotion, no 430 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: radio play, nothing, but you know underground promotion magazines, you 431 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: know that type of shit, word them out and and 432 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: the ship just flooished. 433 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: Think about it. 434 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: I hit Billboard with no promotion, so no radio play, 435 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, just the strength of my hard rhymes, man, 436 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it is what it is, man, 437 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: It's just the facts. You can't deny that. That's why, 438 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, the trolls don't really you know, 439 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: they just need to be educated. Man. You know what 440 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, so I said, shout out. 441 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, this said, man, we ain't gonna pay 442 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: them dudes. No, never mind tonight, it's all about you, 443 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: brother and paying the MARDs to you and what you 444 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: got going on. Because I remember at that time, man, 445 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: it got real serious and rap man, especially because I 446 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: remember Ice Tea took a lot of heat for the 447 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 3: cop Killer album, man, and they were just out there. 448 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: You know, they was pretty much kicking Brothers off the lake, 449 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: but they was letting people go. He was cutting Brothers 450 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: checks and saying, you got to take that somewhere else. 451 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: We're not having it. So you do this, man, this 452 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: time you full fledged. Like you said, I believe that 453 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: that appearance that you had to get a boys album, 454 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 3: it definitely took you to another level and elevated you. Right, 455 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: So now you're in the fold. Man, how did you 456 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: come up to do the song for Bush would be 457 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 3: a Rest in Peace Bushwack? 458 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: Well, you know, the album was coming, man, and you know, 459 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: J Prinsad came. 460 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: To me and you know, he asked me, you know, 461 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: you know that I want to you know, did I 462 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: want to write something you know? Or would I write 463 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: for Bill? But ship I ain't really know what to 464 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: write at the time, you know, so you know, you know, 465 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: Gaveston is about an hour away. So what happened was, 466 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, Jay had rented a beach house. So you know, 467 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: we all you know, the whole rap a lot, you 468 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Possy went up went up to 469 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: the to the beach house and you know back then, 470 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: we you know, I was smoking Hello weed and ship, 471 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So Mushard was up there 472 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: and I just had came up, you know with that 473 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: because it hit him. You know what, what could I 474 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: write for? You know what I'm saying for a midget? 475 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: You know, you know one of the one of the 476 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: Chucky movies was out, so it just it just fit perfect, man. 477 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: And then I just wrote the ship right up there, 478 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: you know. And you know I got a bunch of bread, 479 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, for doing it. Shout out to J Prince, 480 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, much love, like I said, man, 481 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: all everything to J Prince, you know, even though I 482 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: had my own. 483 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 4: Label now, you know, but I thank God for the time. 484 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, you know that that I was gonna rap 485 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: a lot for sure. 486 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: That was a good look. With for you, man, and 487 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: you did. I believe four albums total would rap a lot, right. 488 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: I think it was five to da Let's see south 489 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: Park Psycho Psychic Thoughts interview with a Killer, the Genius, 490 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: the Genius, And I think, man, I think it's. 491 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: Probably one more. 492 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: I know, I know those four for sure. 493 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: You did, man, You know the thing is for you 494 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 3: to have four or five records with them, Man, that's big. 495 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: It was a lot of artists. It's most artists only 496 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: get to release one major album, man, And you kind 497 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: of got it out the mud. Because if I'm correct, 498 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: and correct me if I'm wrong, the south Park cycle 499 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: came out independently on Wrap a Lot Records. It was 500 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: just Wrap a Lot through their own distribution. 501 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: Right to let me see, I think no, I think 502 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: by that time, you know, I think they had got 503 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: I think they had got distribution at that particular time. Yeah, 504 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: because that's how I got. That's how it went worldwide, 505 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: That's how I got. That's how I got the billboard, 506 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: you know. So So I think yeah, because because. 507 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: You eventually wound up getting to deal with priority, right, yeah. 508 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: We had priority and. 509 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: Other people man before priority. 510 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 4: It'll come to me. But Yeah, we definitely had the priority. 511 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmmm. 512 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: So I noticed you would be on a lot of 513 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: the Ghetto Boy releases, right right, Scarface always and he 514 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: was the one that brought in the game. It makes 515 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: sense now, right, you have a relationship that you had 516 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 3: with them. So, Man, I want to go back, man 517 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: to something that we talked about a little bit earlier. Man, 518 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: we talked about censorship. How your record label let you go. 519 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: Do you think you would be able to release a 520 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: record like south Park Cycle the Day in twenty twenty three? 521 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: I think I will, you know, my album about to 522 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: come out, you know, the Greatest Horror Volume too, you know, 523 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: But ship, I don't. Between you and I, I don't 524 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: released you know a few haror Core you know albums 525 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: that's on all major platforms. 526 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: Man, all you gotta do it. 527 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: Just go anywhere iTunes, whatever type in gangs, the nept 528 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: g A n x S T A g A n 529 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: x x t A. You know, if you don't have 530 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: the X in it, then then then that's not that's 531 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: not mine. Put up eight albums. I just put up 532 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: like eight albums. 533 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: Y'all. Hear that out there? Go support this brother's work. 534 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 3: He's still bringing that work. He's still slinging that blade. 535 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: Psych Ward Entertainment, man, that's the name of my label, 536 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: psych Ward Entertainment. Like I'm saying, you can go on 537 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: any platform and just type in G A N N 538 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: S T A NIP and you're gonna see the Guard 539 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: of Horror Coord, the Creator of Horror Coord. You know 540 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Guard of Horror coord, Creator of Horror Coord. 541 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: You know abbage like that that you you know that's 542 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: and then you'll see why I created the shit, you know. So, yeah, 543 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: I ain't hit changed. The shit is the same, you 544 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. So I mean steal Psycho too, you. 545 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: Know what I'm talking about. So I got eight of 546 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 4: them bangers. 547 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If you want to just see, 548 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: go see you know what I'm saying. So that way 549 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: you can, you know, you can, you'll know how the 550 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: shit really came about, you know what I'm saying. Now. 551 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: One thing about me, man, I'm a you know, I'm 552 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: a Brother Lynch fan. Shout out to Brother Lynch. I 553 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: call him the Guard of his style rip gud. One 554 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: thing about me, I don't do heye, I do elevate 555 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: and congratulate and celebrate, you know, shout out to the 556 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: home each some each something. 557 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 4: That's the Homer. 558 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: He came to Houston, did a show, and and and 559 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: and blessed me to get on the show with him, 560 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: you know, paid me to get on the show, and 561 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: then did a did a song with me. See that's 562 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: real right there. You know what I'm saying. And I 563 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: call him, you know, the the god of acid acid rap. See. 564 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: So it's everybody have their own little thing. That's why 565 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: I'll be tripping when they be trying to say a 566 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: record each Sam never said he did Horricort, brother Lynch 567 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: never said he did holcortfinite. 568 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: They could be inspired by somebody, you know. It ain't 569 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: nothing wrong with taking inspiration from something else and putting 570 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: your own twist on it. Because those brothers are definitely original. 571 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, most definitely. So you know on that you you 572 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: you'll have to ask them. 573 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just you know, I'm just like 574 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: to show love, you know what I'm saying to cats 575 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: Man because I'm fans as well, you know, I'm I'm 576 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: one of their fans as well. So I would like 577 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: to do really, I would like to do a show 578 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: like a tour with me, Brother Lynz E sim take nine. 579 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, all them, you know, Stephen King, Gordon, 580 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: all of these cats. 581 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 4: Man. 582 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: You know I got love man, one thing by me. 583 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't do eight. 584 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 585 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: I just innovate and create, motivate and celebrate. You know 586 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 587 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: That's all you can do, man, That's all we're supposed 588 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: to do is black folks. You know what I'm saying, 589 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: All this unnecessary drama and the women and all that stuff. 590 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: I don't do all that either, bro, because you know, 591 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: life too short for all that. Man, Yes, sir, And 592 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: there's definitely a lot of people out here that love you, man, 593 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: That's what I was telling brothers. 594 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: Man. 595 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: See the problem man, I see in hip hop a 596 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: lot of times you have veteran artists and people would 597 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: get stuck on that one classic album. And you're telling me, 598 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: over than that, them brothers are still doing music. This 599 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: brother got eight nine more albums that out there for 600 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: y'all consumption. Go support them. And I think the biggest 601 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: part of it is that's why I wanted to bring 602 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: you on here, is when you're searching you you got 603 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: the king snip because you had a couple of different 604 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: spelling your name right then go you are so lazy nowadays, 605 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 3: if they can't find it, they just assume ain't nothing 606 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: there and they go on to the next thing. So 607 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: you'll hear the brother say that name one more. 608 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Time so they man, you gotta you gotta type it end. 609 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: You know, I got my own label, Psyche Ward Entertainment, 610 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: and my name is still g A n x s 611 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: t e A n I P. I'm gonna stay it again. 612 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: G A n x s t A n I P. 613 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 614 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: The X only means the X is unknown. 615 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: It means xing out all of b s. You know, 616 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: I have my own I have my own label. I'm 617 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: doing my own thing. You know I'm down with the nation. 618 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: That's why the X is unknown. 619 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: You know I roll with the guards. 620 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm the guard of Hall Record. You know you can 621 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: take that and let it alone. It is what it is. 622 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: You know, my album then come out. My album did 623 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: come out worldwide. You know. First I hate to beat 624 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: the boy three different times. 625 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: On three different albums. 626 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: You know I got golden platinum plaque. You know what 627 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying I. 628 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: Got those from my album. 629 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: I got those for writing the Chucky for Butschwick. You know, 630 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: you know platinum, pat, you know. 631 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: Speaking the golden platinum like you saw that, Joe. Butden's 632 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 3: just got his gold plaque for Pump it Up right right? 633 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: I would think about no, man, you think South Park 634 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 3: Cycle on? So when gold on? 635 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: So far? 636 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: You think that, when is the last time you ever 637 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: checked that? 638 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know South Pust Cycle. You know South Pust 639 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: Cycle is platinum, man, you know right right now South 640 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: Pust Cycle on eBay and different little platforms going for 641 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: three hundred dollars. 642 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, for sure, I've seen it. 643 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: You can't even you can't even. 644 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: Get South Pust Cycle for a hundred three hundred you 645 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: know that that lets you know, you know, But like 646 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: I said, you know it's about one point six man, 647 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, so it is it is what it is. Like. 648 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: That's a blessing, though, bro, because you got a lot 649 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: of people out there. I'm telling you, I wouldn't be 650 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: surprised if Doctor Dray was banging your music, dog, because 651 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: you have that type of impact people like it was 652 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: really on your. 653 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: Ship, man, I ain't know, That's why I just told 654 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: you that's why I start called me. You know what 655 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's why my intro is too short, too short. 656 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: About two months ago, he was just talking about me 657 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: and told him to play psycho. You know, me and 658 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: two Short too show used to fly to Houston. I 659 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: used to go pick Short up from the airport, take 660 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: him to the after hours, do his shows with him 661 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: standing behind him. Make sure nobody's fucking with him, Me 662 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: and my homies standing behind him. Let him do his show, 663 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: then go to the after hours. You know so you 664 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: can ask Short. I got it on my intro. You 665 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Short, I said it himself. He 666 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: said that ship on eggin radio on rock the bells 667 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: shout out to LLL. 668 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 4: You know so you can't. You can't deny the fact. 669 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: That's that's what's wrong with niggas. Niggas want to deny 670 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: the face that you cannot deny facts. 671 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: All the time, they you know what, they would rewrite history. 672 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: They were twisted up the facts and everything else. Man. 673 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: But you know what, that's all right. That's what we 674 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: got platforms like this to get the word out and 675 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: let people know what's going on. Yes, sir, so do 676 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: you have a website or anything. 677 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: Well, man, I just I just me honestly. I send niggas. 678 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: I just send niggas straight to the to the platforms. 679 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Go go go stream that, 680 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: Go buy, go stream it. You know what I'm saying. 681 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: That's all I want. That's all I want you to do. 682 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: You can just go see for yourself. You know, I'm 683 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: about to drop the Greatest Horrors Volume two, you know album, 684 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: probably in a month. But I but I have the 685 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: greatest album, Greatest Horrors Volume one that's out right now. 686 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: I have The Guard of Horror Cord that's out right now. 687 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: I have the Creator of Horror coord that's out right now. 688 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: I have Steel Psycho two that's out right now. I 689 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: have h Town Legend that out right now. These are 690 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: all record albums, man, and they under novel. So you 691 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: gotta do just go to YouTube, not YouTube, but iTunes. 692 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: Go to Spotify, g A E X S P A 693 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: N I P. You know what I'm talking about, and 694 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: uill see And. 695 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 3: You heard it right there. You heard it right there 696 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: with Nick Man. I appreciate you. Man, coming on, man, 697 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: I know you are a few hours ahead of us, man, 698 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: and we did this kind of short notice, man, But 699 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: I really appreciate it, man, because you are definitely one 700 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 3: of my favorite artists. Donny shot to me, Donny Houston. 701 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 3: I told Donny Houston, me and him talk a lot, 702 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 3: and I said, Man, tall games to Nip Man. I 703 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: gotta holler at him. 704 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 4: Man. 705 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: I need to holler at him already, man, And that's 706 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: a that's a blessing. 707 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 4: Man. 708 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: Shout out to I call him DH Man. I call 709 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: I call you know when I go up to dh I. 710 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: You know, I call it dh Vill when I do 711 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: my interviews with him. I'm staying in dh Vill. 712 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 4: Man. 713 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: Shout out to Donny Houston. Man, we love down in Houston, 714 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: big Steeal We'll be back, you know what I'm saying. 715 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 3: And oh for sure, you definitely be back. Man. We 716 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 3: definite we go have you on against the Chronicles, dog. 717 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: I want to get on that. 718 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, against the Chronicles Dog. We got a lot of 719 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: we got a real big reach over there, especially on 720 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: the audio, man, So I want to get you on there. 721 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: I want to do this with you all little, one 722 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 3: on one so I can get my little personal fan 723 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: boy ship off the way for sure, and then I 724 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: want you to know me and eight is actually gonna 725 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 3: come down to Houston. I think we'd be down there 726 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 3: in the January, So I definitely want to do it 727 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: the right way. When we do that, that one that's 728 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 3: that's gotta be the live sit down, you know what 729 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 3: I mean. 730 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: Sir, shout out the n C A man, I've been 731 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: a fan of eight Man for some other fucking loan. Man, 732 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: the hood will take you under man, come on. 733 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: Man, he is a man of yours as he. 734 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: Is a big fan of eight Man. 735 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 4: You know, EF eight is a is a complete legend man. 736 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 4: You know. 737 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: So like I said, man, I'm on it. You know 738 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And Cat's just gotta gone and 739 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: just you just gotta give it up, man, you know 740 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Whether you you know like this rap 741 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: that rapper man just real niggas we did in facts, 742 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: go look that ship up. 743 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 4: Miam came out late ninety one. Southwest Cycle was the only. 744 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: Hor record full length album out in America and overseas worldwide. 745 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: Board I hit the beerboard with no promotion, no radio play, 746 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: just the strength of hard ass rhymes. You know what 747 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It ain't nothing changed. You know what I'm 748 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: talking about, Still the same, like I stayed, Go look 749 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: on Spotify iTunes. You know what I'm saying. Wherever you 750 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: want to go g a n x Sta n IRP, 751 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: creator of horror coord No. 752 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure I got that in the description, 753 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: brother Babble linked to all your albums in the description. 754 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: So if you don't give me about five minutes, I'm 755 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: gonna make sure all less populated down there. 756 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: Man. 757 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 3: I really appreciate you, brother, I really appreciate you. Coming on, man, 758 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. Y'all. Make sure it's your Instagram, man, Well. 759 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: My Instagram is just look up Rowdy Rowdy Williams. That's 760 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: my real name r R O W d Y Gangster 761 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: Nip Williams. 762 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: When I found out that was your government name, bro, 763 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: I said, man, that's something else. The type of music 764 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 3: this man's name and his government name is rowdy because 765 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 3: you are rowdy, you. 766 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: Know my mama, and my mama gakes me the right name. Man. 767 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, so there's Rowdy Gangstennip Williams, you know, and 768 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: it's Rowdy Williams on Facebook, you know. So at Psycho 769 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: Nip on Twitter, you know. And then my YouTube is 770 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: the Real gangst Nip. That's where all the videos at, 771 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: the Real Gangster Nip. You know what I'm saying. I 772 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: just I was just on Donna Houston. He did the 773 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: Top ten, I did my I did my new song 774 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: called fingers Sharpener. Who you know gonna make a song 775 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: called fingers sharpen though, you know that you know what 776 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that fingers sharpening. See, I used to be 777 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: a carpin to, so let me turn their fingers softener. 778 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: So let me turn it again. I remember this in school, 779 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: so let me learn it again. You know, trust me, man, man, 780 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: listen that fingers softener. So motherfucker heart, you know, talking 781 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: about a nigga, say, used to be a used to 782 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: be a teacher's hand turned into a creature's hand, kind 783 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: of looking like it's Freddy's hand. Fred and Barnie rubber 784 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: Wilmer told me that it's Betty's hand. You're gonna talking 785 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: about the shit wicked, man, you know, just gotta know, man. Plus, 786 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: it got them two short, funked out ass beats. That's 787 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: what makes that's what makes the connection, the beats with 788 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: the rhymes. You know you gotta have both of them. 789 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 1: You know, if you don't have both of them plus 790 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: the visual the visualization of what you're talking about, see horror. 791 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: Let me explain this to these cats, man, you catch 792 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: horror core is more than just a physical style. It's 793 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: a mental stuff and it also has a spiritual aspect. 794 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 4: It's where you take it. 795 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: The problem with you niggas, y'all keep that shit just 796 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: on the lower base value, which. 797 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 4: Is the physical style. 798 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: Nigga, I'm the god. 799 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 800 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 1: I got the physical, the mental, and the spiritual style 801 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: of horror court. You know what. 802 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 3: You just touched on something. And this is what I 803 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: want to say, because black folks, you know how we 804 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: are religion. I had some folks when I would play 805 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 3: your CD, why you listen to that devil worship and stuff? 806 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 3: And I would say it, not one time did this 807 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 3: man every say on their CD worship the devil? Never 808 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 3: that one time he talks one big ship, but he never, 809 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 3: not one time, said nothing about most Satanism on that. 810 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: That's another thing I'm glad you mentioned that. 811 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 4: Do this can't be thinking. 812 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: Horror coor is devil worshiping. It's not see the ship 813 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: was in me just from from birds. You know, I 814 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: never never said I watched the devil. I'm in the nat. 815 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: Put this motherfucker cring. You know what I'm saying. You 816 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: see that star in Christen, you know what I'm saying. 817 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: So that horrorcore shit is in me. You know I'm 818 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: talking about. So that's just the physical plane, that's just 819 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: my detention mechanism. You heard. You know, So all niggas 820 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 1: out there start worshiping Satan, you know what I'm saying, 821 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: because I didn't create horrcorre for you to worship Satan. 822 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: I never said that shit. And my song always killed 823 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: the devil, not worshiping. What the fuck you're doing worship? 824 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, The motherfucker devil the fuck. 825 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: Your horrorcor is a visual style with immense, high powered imagery. 826 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: Horrorcord is a is a style where you don't need 827 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: a scream. Your lyrics is the picture. You don't need 828 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: a movie scream. If you're doing horrorcor right and your 829 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: shit is vivid enough, you'll never need a scream because 830 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: your lyrics is the movie. You know what I'm talking about. 831 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: You life, life is a movie. 832 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 4: We just all playing part. 833 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 3: You're for real, for real, for real, for real. 834 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 4: Man. 835 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 3: Before we get up out of here, man, I want 836 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 3: to give another shout out to Donnie Houston. Y'all make 837 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 3: sure y'all go check your show out. Donnie is really 838 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 3: the he really puts on for the city of Houston, 839 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 3: and I love that brother for that anytime. And I'm 840 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 3: a big fan of his channel, you know, as he 841 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 3: is what we do. Donnie Houston, y'all make sure y'all 842 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 3: go check him out, man, because anything that's going on 843 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 3: in Age down he pretty much don't have everything. Everybody 844 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 3: from Houston on that show, right, He's had everyone from 845 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: Houston on that show, and I love that about that brother. 846 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 4: Man. 847 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: Shout out down Houston every name. Man. Shout out to 848 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: the HPC, you know what I'm saying. Shout out to 849 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: bumb man. Shout out to the trill Burgers. Man, y'all 850 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 1: need to check out that bumbe trill Burger man. 851 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 3: Down there doing his thing. 852 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: Man. 853 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of him. Man, that's awesome. Man. 854 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: Bond, listen, let me tell you something about Bond before 855 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: I go. Every time Bond do an interview and they 856 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: into horror Court, he always telling them, Man Nip been 857 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: doing that shit way before. You know what I'm saying, 858 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: Cat's came out, Cats came out. I've been doing Horror 859 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: Court eighty three. You know what I'm saying. Then, I'm 860 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: fifty four years old. Look still you know that nation 861 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: got a brother, Still looking good, still vibing, still hardcore, 862 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: still higher level. You know what I'm saying, consciousness, how 863 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: you level thinking, and definitely how you level. You know 864 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Horror coord So it's so much more, 865 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying coming up, So just keep 866 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, just just stay tuned, you know what I'm saying. 867 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: Like I said, go to the platforms, g A, n 868 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: X S, t A. 869 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 3: Make I'm gonna make sure they get there, Bro, I'm 870 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 3: gonna make sure they got it right too. So there 871 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 3: we go, Man, Gangs Nip Man, y'all make sure y'all 872 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 3: go stream this man's music, go follow him on Instagram 873 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 3: because he's truly one of our legends. Let's start giving 874 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: our legends to flowers while they're still here. 875 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, Before I go, I just want to shout 876 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: out to the home and e eave Sam. Shout out 877 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: to the homie brother Lynx. Shout out to Take nine. 878 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to Eminem you know, 879 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: anybody that's doing hard. Shout out to the Juggalos. Shout 880 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: out to my homeboy Mastermind and Detroit. Shout out to 881 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: Russ Cole. Shout out to the Hell's Rage in Cincinnati. 882 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to the homie 883 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: really really, you know what I'm saying, the homie, Jordan 884 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: King and the SPC for sure. 885 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 3: So y'all hear it out there now. I messed with y'all, 886 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 3: tick all y'all out there, man, tick and with my 887 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 3: homeboys insane clown policy. 888 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: Man. 889 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 3: We need yeah, I done los, you know, we need 890 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 3: at the next gatherer. Have they have you done together 891 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 3: in the Juggalos yet? 892 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: H Man? They they did contact me one year. I 893 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: think I was I think I was doing some shows 894 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: so I couldn't do that particular one, so they did 895 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: reach out to me. 896 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 3: You know, man, I'm gonna try to set that up 897 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 3: for You need to go do that and number all 898 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 3: there taking them too. Dog. You need to be out. 899 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: You know people want to see you dog already. 900 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 3: But we gonna talk offline about that business man. We 901 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 3: appreciate y'all. Man, this is something we gonna start doing 902 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 3: every Sunday. Make sure y'all check this week's episode The 903 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 3: Gainst the Chronicles off and all that. And from that 904 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 3: note we out here salute well. That concludes another episode 905 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 3: of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download 906 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 3: the iHeart app and subscribe to The Gangst Chronicles podcast 907 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 3: For Apple users, find a purple micae on the front 908 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 3: of your screen, subscribe to the show, leave a comment 909 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 3: and rating. Executive producers for The Gangst Chronicles podcasts of 910 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 3: Norman Stelled Aaron m c a. Tyler. Our visual media 911 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 3: director is Brian Whatt, and the audio editors tell It Hayes. 912 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 3: The Gainst the Chronicles is a production of iHeart Media 913 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 3: Network and The Black Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts 914 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts 915 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: wherever you're listening to your podcasts