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Speaker 2: So it's spooky season, it's Hispanic Heritage Month. We have

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Speaker 2: We have Aiden Castellanos, the host of Sousto, a podcast

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Speaker 5: Yes, hey, cool friends, my name is Adrian or Aiden

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Speaker 3: And where are you calling in from?

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Speaker 5: I am calling in all the way from Austin, Texas,

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Speaker 2: And the Rio Grande Valley and the border play a

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Speaker 2: How did you what inspired you to move in that

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Speaker 5: I always attribute that to the resiliency of our culture

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Speaker 1: They also teach us something about I like this lens

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Speaker 2: rest of the interview. Very fascinating. You recently sat down

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Speaker 2: you talked about Lala Chusa. You also on your website

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like growing up, I can't remember that

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Speaker 5: Like I said, like we had we had the remedy

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Speaker 6: It, that's it, that's it, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: So question about I have a question for you about

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Speaker 5: My god, yes I do. Unfortunately, and my sister will

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Speaker 1: I need to hear it because I have my own

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Speaker 2: And the one that episode is so good. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: And can you define for our listeners who may be

439
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: hearing this term for the first time, what is a wendy?

440
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 5: Okay, before I say this out loud in my home,

441
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 5: this is not an invitation, not a welcome roll out.

442
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 5: I'm using this as example, Okay. A dwende is the

443
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 5: easiest way to describe it. It's like a gnome like

444
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 5: creature or a being. It's a very small humanoid being.

445
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 5: Couple feet tall, even lesson of foot tall sometimes and

446
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 5: they're very mischievous, and so they're known to move.

447
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 6: Your stuff around or to hide your stuff.

448
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 5: Sometimes they are the theme that goes bump in the night,

449
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 5: and they're not really dangerous per se, but again they're

450
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 5: very mischievous. And so actually, a couple Halloweens ago, I

451
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 5: was at home. I had already moved away from home,

452
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 5: but I was visiting, and I was helping my mom

453
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 5: pass out candy because in my mom's neighborhood there's tons

454
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 5: of trick or treaters and if anybody is curious about

455
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 5: where I get my love from, I don't know if

456
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 5: she knows it or if she realizes it. But her house

457
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 5: on Halloween is amazing. She has dolls hanging from her

458
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 5: tree and like light up everything.

459
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 6: It's so fun.

460
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 5: So she's passing out candy and my sister had just

461
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 5: gotten a car a couple months prior and it was

462
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 5: like an SUV, so we had the back open, we

463
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 5: had music playing. We're sitting in there just hanging out,

464
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 5: engaging with the tricker treaters, hanging out.

465
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 6: Candy and whatnot.

466
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 5: The night wraps up, it's fine, so we start packing

467
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 5: up everything, putting candy away inside, and we're going to

468
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 5: lock up the car and my mom asks me for

469
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 5: the keys and I was like, well, I don't have them.

470
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 5: I gave them to you, and she was like, no,

471
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 5: I gave them to you. I was like, well, we

472
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 5: probably put them down. So we start looking and it's dark,

473
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 5: so we have our flashlights on and we're looking around

474
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 5: in the car like, okay, it's not in here. And

475
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 5: my sister's a virgo, if that says anything, so I

476
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 5: was like, we need to find this before she gets back.

477
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 6: So we start looking under the car. Nothing.

478
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 5: I'm like, shut the candy ball. Maybe you put them

479
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 5: in the bowl, and so we're like, dump all the

480
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 5: candy out. We're rifling through it. We cannot find To

481
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 5: this day, we don't know where this key is. And

482
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 5: thankfully my sister had a spare. But I mean, of course,

483
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 5: I mean naturally anyone would be right. But she was

484
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 5: upset and she was like, how could you lose my key?

485
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 6: Right?

486
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 5: And my only explanation was it was a dunde. It

487
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 5: was prime time for Halloween. This dunde was out in

488
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 5: disguise with these children, and it snuck and it stole

489
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 5: your key, like we we like any explanation we had

490
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 5: to where the key could have been. It was nowhere

491
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 5: to be found, like maybe lost, yes, but not just vanished.

492
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: Wow, just gone. It was just straight up gone.

493
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 5: Yeah. And they're they're they're the they're they're known or

494
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 5: allegedly they like shiny things.

495
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: They're kind of like crows, right, they like the shiny things.

496
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 5: If you if you think that you have when their

497
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 5: problem in your home, one of the kind of ways

498
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 5: that's said to get rid of them is to toss

499
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 5: out a handful of treats out the door. As you

500
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 5: open the door, you toss out treats, whether it's candy

501
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 5: or some food, and you tell them go get it,

502
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 5: go get it. Wait a couple of seconds, and then

503
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 5: you shut the door behind them.

504
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 3: That's good to know. Life anti life hack.

505
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.

506
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: I mean my when this story. I have a couple,

507
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: but one that I still still makes me scratch my

508
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: head is that I had a fifty dollars bill on

509
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: my vanity and I was sitting there for a couple

510
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: of day and I kept looking at it and saying like,

511
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: I have to go put that in the bank, or

512
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: I have to put that away, and then a couple

513
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: days later, the fifty dollars bill is now a twenty

514
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: dollar bill, and I was like, wait, no, no, this

515
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: no right. So I'm like I asked my parents, like okay,

516
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 1: it's okay, did somebody swap my bill? It's fine if

517
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: you did. If you needed cash, all good, but just

518
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: let me know. And they were like, no, we have

519
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 1: not done that. We have not taken money from you.

520
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: We haven't borrowed money. Like no, And I in my

521
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: mind a gwyn that was playing a trick on me. Yeah,

522
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: because there's just no other explanation. We didn't have anybody

523
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: coming into the house. There were no visitors. It was

524
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: just my parents. And so that is still like one

525
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: of my stories to this day that makes me think,

526
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: like a Glen that was like playing a prank on me.

527
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: And I believe you do have a dunda in your

528
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: house because we were shooting something at her house once.

529
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: There was a bunch of us there. We had scripts

530
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: and there was a specific script that I maybe I

531
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: put it down or we put it down on your

532
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: dining room table, and then it was gone and we

533
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: were looking high and low for this script. We were

534
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: looking for a long time and we could not find

535
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: it anywhere. And I totally believe you have a d

536
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: Wenda in your house because it was just no like

537
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: it was it was. It vanished, it vanished, and so

538
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: you have like a very clever wen there because he made.

539
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Change made honestly, how did he go to.

540
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 6: The drag show?

541
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 5: I only need thirty dollars tips and drinks. I just

542
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 5: will give her the rest.

543
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: Don't understand it. I will say though, that since a

544
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: relative has left my house, I think that the duenda

545
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: is gone.

546
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: But when they went with him, yes, his house.

547
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, it was his dlende.

548
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm screaming, possibly allegedly allegedly.

549
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: You need to ask him if he's been missing stuff

550
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 5: or his stuff isn't moving around?

551
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: All right, I will I love it. My grandma definitely

552
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: has a d Wende. And it's funny because my grandma's

553
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: dwen that we talk about it openly, like it's like

554
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: a family member, you know, because she's always talking about

555
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: her when they like there's it's just like a matter

556
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: of fact, you know. I think there's a little bit

557
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: like you know, I think she's being forgetful and she

558
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: misplaces things. But He's a constant factor, and I it

559
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: for school. I'm writing a short film and it's like

560
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of a horror short and it's called

561
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: Dwhende and it's my sister made me like a little

562
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: Dwende puppet head, So we're imagining what it might look like.

563
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 2: And months and months ago before I started writing the script,

564
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: I did listen to your t Whende episode for research purposes,

565
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: and I learned so many things, Like I didn't realize

566
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: that in some areas the when this can actually be

567
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: quite violent and scary and like attack old people or

568
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: kidnapped children. And I think maybe the ones that we've

569
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: grown up knowing about or living with have been a

570
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: little more benign and a little bit more like tricksters.

571
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: So I was curious too about that side of the

572
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: when this that more nefarious, more violent. I guess nature

573
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: that some of them have.

574
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's this kind of I noticed themes with

575
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 5: these different kinds of entities that I cover, and so

576
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 5: one of my favorites is the cryptid fems. So there's

577
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 5: always this kind of like women or fem spirits, and

578
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 5: it's usually about like vengeance and revenge.

579
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 6: And I'm always on their side. And then there's.

580
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 5: Another area where there are these kind of protectors of

581
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: nature and the when the stories that.

582
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 6: I found where they were on the more.

583
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 5: Violent or dangerous side was they were doing it in

584
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 5: service of or in protection of nature or like forests.

585
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 5: And so it's said that if you go into a forest,

586
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 5: if you're disrespectful, if you're causing trouble anything to damage

587
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 5: the nature, that's when they kind of come out and

588
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 5: they're like, all right, well, now you've got to pay

589
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: up because you're you know, you're being rude out here

590
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 5: and this is our home, this is your home.

591
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 6: Respect it right.

592
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 5: One story that they can up in after I covered

593
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 5: them early on was the story of I don't know

594
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 5: if you remember those children that survived a plane crash

595
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 5: in the Amazon Amazon jungle. Okay, So their grandmother, after

596
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 5: they were found, came forward and she said that her

597
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 5: belief was that a duende was helping them because on

598
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 5: the flip side, those lendas that are dangerous to people

599
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 5: who are quote being bad, that they can either lure

600
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 5: people into the forest deeper into it and get them

601
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 5: more lost, or they can help them. And so that

602
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 5: she said that in this case like the Duenda that

603
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 5: they encountered helped them find their way because they traveled.

604
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 5: I think it was it wasn't what we would say

605
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 5: is like very long. It wasn't a very long distance.

606
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 5: But in the Amazon jungle it's extremely it's it's extremely

607
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 5: dangerous just to be out there right without anything really,

608
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 5: but then to be moving through it is even more dangerous.

609
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 5: And this was a group of kids, a very young kids,

610
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 5: and so the fact that they survived was this like miracle.

611
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 5: And so that's why then I think the grandmother came

612
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 5: forward and said, no, there was a dlenda that helped them,

613
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 5: and we thank the forest. We show it all our

614
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 5: gratitude and love for returning our children to us. So

615
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 5: again it's kind of one of those like I think

616
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 5: that the Dundas are very you know, they're like us.

617
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 6: You know, they're they're able to.

618
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 5: Make up their minds about people and then to decide

619
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 5: how they want to treat those people.

620
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: Gave me chills, I have chill.

621
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: Yes, that gave me chills.

622
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

623
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a great.

624
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one's a great like a really I mean,

625
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 5: it's of course tragic that that ever happened to those kids,

626
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 5: but it's also so lovely that they were that they survived.

627
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: Oh truly, Wow, I guess to to, Uh, we're coming

628
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: towards the end of our interview here, but is there

629
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: a creature, a story, a folklore that you want to

630
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: show a little bit more love too that you think

631
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: is maybe undertold, underrated, not an people know about it,

632
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: but maybe should look into it.

633
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 6: Absolutely, Oh my god, there's so many.

634
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: One that I did recently that I thought was really

635
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 5: really cool was the story of Again this falls into

636
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 5: the cryptid femmes kind of category. It's the story of

637
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 5: this spirit called latak Nuda. And so the story that

638
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 5: there's two really popular versions. The one that I covered

639
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: or that I did the narrative part of in my

640
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: episode was it's the story of this young woman who

641
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 5: was going to meet up with her boyfriend with her lover,

642
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 5: and when she went to meet up with him, a

643
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: cab was distracted by her.

644
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 6: They were checking her.

645
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 5: Out, and they crashed into her boyfriend and they killed him.

646
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: And so the story is that you know, she ended

647
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 5: up passing as well, and that now she kind of

648
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 5: roams the streets of hondudas it's said to happen there

649
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 5: and she stops for a taxi ride, and when they

650
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 5: pick her up, they go to their she gives them

651
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 5: a destination they drive, and that if they are able

652
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 5: to make it to their destination without looking back at her,

653
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 5: without being distracted, that at most she'll vanish and she

654
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 5: leaves the center or the fragrance of perfume, and that

655
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 5: if they are distracted, and if they keep looking back

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Speaker 5: at her, she has a knife and she kills them.

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Speaker 6: And so that was.

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Speaker 5: One version, and then another version of that, the same

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Speaker 5: kind of high heel. And again they say that you

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Speaker 5: can hear her heels in the street, that she was

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Speaker 5: wearing heels when that happened, that her her boyfriend was killed,

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Speaker 5: and so so she's called latakunuda. So another version is

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Speaker 5: that she was the victim of an abusive relationship and

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Speaker 5: it ended up in the loss of her life, and

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Speaker 5: so that she's kind of roaming this realm as a

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Speaker 5: vengeful spirit, right, And so that that's the sign, is

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Speaker 5: that you can hear her heels, and that she typically

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Speaker 5: targets drunken abusive men, which again I on her side

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Speaker 5: in this instance. And there's one detail with her that

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Speaker 5: happens in many stories that the closer the sound of

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Speaker 5: her heels are, the further way that she is, but

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Speaker 5: the further away the sound of her heels are, the

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Speaker 5: closer she is.

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Speaker 6: Tricking you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, And that's something that does happen in other stories.

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Speaker 5: So people say that about about the tusas, about this

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Speaker 5: other spirit called Eli who is said to whistle, and

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Speaker 5: so they say the same thing about the noises that

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Speaker 5: those entities make.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. I love her, She's great. Yeah, name right right, name.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you Aiden for sharing your expertise, your knowledge,

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Speaker 1: your joy with us. This was, you know, like a

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Speaker 1: spooky episode but also like a joy filled episode, Like

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Speaker 1: it was so good to connect with you and and

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Speaker 1: talk about the folklore of the region that you're from

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Speaker 1: and also other folklore of Latin America.

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Speaker 3: So thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: For having me. It's good to see you all again.

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Speaker 5: Audio Honors.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we met Aiden in New York City at the

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Speaker 2: Gotham where we were receiving awards for our podcasting work,

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Speaker 2: and you got an Audio Honor for Sousta and write

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Speaker 2: up in Variety magazine the issue with Brendan Frasier on

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Speaker 2: the cover. It was fabulous, such a good time.

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Speaker 5: So it was so nice to meet you all there,

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Speaker 5: and I'm happy to get to be here again.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was so good to meet you. We hope

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Speaker 1: we can see each other in real life soon.

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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, I need to go out to California.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, please, we got some scary stories out here.

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Speaker 1: Yes all right, Well, thank you so much, have a

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Speaker 1: good rest of your evening.

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Speaker 6: Take care too, have a great spooky season.

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Speaker 3: We'll catch you next time. Psitos.

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