1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today it's 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Freaky Friday and we have a special guest joining us. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: It's a Keem Molten. You guys know him from this 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: past season of Bachelor in Paradise and guess what big 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: news in his life? He has a girlfriend. 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 3: Yay, Monica is her name, right, Hakeem? 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 4: That is her name. Somebody likes me, guys, I'm good. 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 4: Somebody actually likes me. There's a there's a person for 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 4: everybody out there, So I'm the living testament to that. 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: How do you meet like you were the person we've 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: rooted for the hardest to find love because you're so 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: freaking entertaining. 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: Actually so honest. She's like, you're just so freaking entertaining. 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: I'm thinking, like, you're such a nice guy, you're handsome, 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 4: like you know, all the above, entertaining. 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Big lies, a perfect reality star. 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: We met via hinge, but she's actually somebody from my past. 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 4: Like me and her dated in twenty twenty one to 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: And then you found each other on a hinge and 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: you were like, oh, you know what we should date 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: again after the fact that you already dated for two years. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so the first time we met on hinge. But 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 4: then she's yeah, it's a long story because we didn't 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 4: break up because of something was wrong with us. It 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 4: was more the family dynamic that she had at our 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: house wasn't very accepting of Hakem, which is, okay, everybody 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: has their I'm saying in the most nicest way. 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: Possible, Okay, well changed. 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: Well, Monica has totally just not I'm not saying that 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: she should do this or not, but she's kind of 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 4: just totally just they did like detached from her family 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 4: who kind of that way towards me in a sense. 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 4: Just there's just a lot of history behind it. Like 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: when I was hanging back from the bachelorette, her brother 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: like sent me like a text message saying stupid hard 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: er and it was just like yo, like, bro, I 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: haven't even seen you like a year, Like, like who 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: man's is this? You know what I mean? So but 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: we uh, it was It was actually funny because she 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: was working on my social media first, and you know, 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: we were totally platonic. We were just totally cool and 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: like we all just kind of kind of got back 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: together in a sense because of that text message that 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: was sent to me, because they were kind of hoping 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: to kind of rip us apart in a sense, but 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: it kind of just brought us together and kind of 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: exposed how her family was. And I'm sorry to make 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: this so serious. 52 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: No, we're gonna start talking about soft swinging soonce. So you. 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: Okay, so you need to make that advice better. But yeah, 54 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: long story shirt is that you know, we we recognized 55 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: that I'm not married her family. I know a lot 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: of people say, like, when you're marrying somebody, you're inheriting 57 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: the families and so forth. But I feel like I'm 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: very happy with her. She's an amazing woman, and I'm like, 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: let's try to figure this out and let's see if 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: this can actually work because my family loves her and 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: she indulges into Jamaican culture. So yeah, I'm very very appy. 62 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: Let's hope her family comes around to some point too. 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: We hope for that. Is that a good hope. 64 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: I think that's a good hope. But I think I 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: don't think it's I don't think saying things that way, 66 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: And I don't know if you can kind of turn 67 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: your make a one to eighty after you kind of 68 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: say those things that are not able to be taken back, 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: you know, Higgs. So it's just like it's hard. It's 70 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: truly hard because when you look at them, like, is 71 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: that how you always looked at me? Because I was 72 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: I thought I was good with them at one point 73 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: and then yeah, just a lot of things just spiraled. 74 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: But we're all Gucci now, man, we're all Gucci. I'm 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: trying to have an Ashley relationship. I'm trying to have 76 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: a happy family, happy marriage and all that good stuff. 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: Dude, well, it's amazing to hear that Hakeem has a girlfriend. 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: We also want to talk to you today about a 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: girl that all of us are excited about, Taylor Frankie Paul. 80 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: Taylor Frankie Paul is going to be the upcoming lead 81 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: of the Bachelorette. Every Friday, we do a Frankie Friday, Hakeem. 82 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: The reason for this is because so many listeners are 83 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: familiar with Taylor Frankie Paul. However, so many are not. 84 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: They haven't watched The Mormon Wives, they don't know this 85 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: whole storyline. So we're getting people educated on Taylor Frankie 86 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: Paul as her season of The Bachelrett is behind upon us. 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: You know Taylor, you've known her for a while. Did 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: you know her before like she blew up and became 89 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: a celebrity. 90 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: Not at all. So I'm actually just an acquaintance with Taylor. 91 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: I'm more closer with like Jesse Dakota is one of 92 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: my closest. 93 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: How good you're in the circle? 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: Oh? I mean yeah, I mean I called him before. 95 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 4: I called him before this, and I was like, is 96 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: anything off the table? Is anything mentioned? And He's like, dude, 97 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: you can mention anything you want. 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 2: So guys, you ask away, Okay, well how did you 99 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: first meet them? The crew? 100 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: So with the Secret Lives momiwise, they did a crossover 101 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: kind of thing on the mentel law of The Bachelor 102 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: season and then honestly, I was just watching their whole 103 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: entire trailer and I was just in awe and yeah, 104 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: and they basically just put a reaction camera to me 105 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 4: watching their trailer. 106 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: Remember that again. 107 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 4: They kind of just linked up after that, me and 108 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: Jesse to me at the time, Yeah, we all just 109 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 4: linked up. And then I went to the Halloween party 110 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 4: and I just kept in touch with them. You're just 111 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 4: all good people truthfully, l No, they live in Utah, Man, 112 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: they live in provo Orum. They're all really in there. 113 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 4: They really, they say they are for a for real. 114 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: I was gonna say that comment from Ben was really new. 115 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: Bet. 116 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: It's on Salt Lake? 117 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: Are they? 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: They all live in Salt Lake because they're all Mormon. 119 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can be Mormon in La. 120 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 2: Of course, but like the whole show is about Salt Lake. 121 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm learning. See, that's why we 122 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: do Franky Fridays is to learn as we go. 123 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: You right, okay, brother, you're right. 124 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: So you know them from as being TV stars basically, 125 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: So how did you get in the background of some 126 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: of these episodes? 127 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know because I wasn't technically supposed to 128 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: be on their episodes because there was like a whole 129 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 4: thing that I wasn't supposed at the time. Warner wasn't 130 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: okay with me before it was a bachelorette, so like, 131 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: I wasn't even supposed to be on that. I was 132 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: surprised that I was even on there because I was 133 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 4: just going there to support my homies and the Halloween 134 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: party and party, to be honest with you, So. 135 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, with a bunch of we've uh yeah, goodness, gracious 136 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: nothing nothing loves you up for a social or or 137 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: actually like a diet coke di coke. Now, okay, I'm 138 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: gonna just because we can ask any thing, you go 139 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: for it. We have been extensive, not extensive, but we've 140 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: talked about the Mormon faith on this show before, in 141 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: the misconceptions and the stereotypes and the multiple different ways 142 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: that people know Mormonism. But the reason I'm asking this 143 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: question is because soft swinging is a part of their lives. 144 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: It is. I mean, it's what they kind of had 145 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: the scandal for. It's what they got blown up for. Hakeem, 146 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: have you ever or I don't even know how this 147 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: would work, but like, have you been asked to soft swing? 148 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: Is it like an open invite? I don't know how 149 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: that would work. 150 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: Okay, So let's let's let's let's pump the brakes. So 151 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 4: first things first, they they didn't even it's Miranda and Taylor. 152 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: It's not like Jesse and Jordie did it or like 153 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: a whole mom talk thing like it's just they had 154 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: that in their past. It's not like they're actively doing 155 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 4: this right now. Okay, one time they would go to 156 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: those parts it's on the it's on the episode. But 157 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: they would do like It's not like they were actually 158 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: like super like you know, intercourse swapping like switch road. 159 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: But I was going to tell him, wasn't it just oral? 160 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to miss quote. 161 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: But the whole time I actually go like this, I. 162 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: Have no idea. 163 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: I felt really awkward that nobody had like picked up 164 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: on that. 165 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: Goodness, Actually. 166 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: You are funny? 167 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: Is I don't know? Gosh, all right, back to the conversation. 168 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: So so so basically, no, they don't swing, but at 169 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: that time period, they were doing some. Yeah, they were 170 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: just kind of have a fun in a sense, like 171 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 4: made out with her. Before I wouldn't say, what's it's 172 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: like a soft orgy if anything, like a very soft 173 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 4: not like orgy like oh like. 174 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: Everybody's doing it in front of each other. 175 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not. It's not like that, because y'all making 176 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: it seem like this is pornhook. It is not like that. 177 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: You don't making it seem like anything. I'm asking questions 178 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: because I'm curious. 179 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: My boy Ben is out here, like are you swinging? 180 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: I mean no, I me, my white. 181 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,479 Speaker 3: There's zero chance. 182 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: That is. 183 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much this that you know, I'm 184 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: curious about, because then they put obviously on network television, 185 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: and then Taylor becomes the Bachelorette, which opens up a 186 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: whole new world for people to try to understand. Uh, 187 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: and people like me who are oblivious to so much 188 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: of this side of their religion but also not knowledgeable 189 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 3: but fairly knowledgeable of like the faith side of their religion, 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: and I don't understand, I don't know the lifestyle side, 191 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 3: and so there's so much that I am learning along 192 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: the way and trying to wrap my head around. Ashley, 193 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: I think you could answer this question for me, Kee, 194 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: maybe you could. You know, there has been like conversations 195 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: recently within this friend group of like cheating, right, My 196 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: curiosity is, like, how do they determine when it's cheating? 197 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: If soft swinging was a thing. 198 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: I got you, I mean you want to go in there. 199 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: No, I don't got this. I've only watched through season one. 200 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: You got this tele us because they put a stop 201 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: to it all. 202 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: The most important thing to understand is that the swinging 203 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: has nothing to do with Mormonism. That's the thing you 204 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: need to I think that we need to separate because 205 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 4: the Mormon faith. Actually, they're very I mean they obviously 206 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 4: back in the day they were able to have multiple 207 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: wives and so forth. But it's not the thing that 208 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: they're doing now per se. I would say that was 209 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: more of just a stage in her life that she did. 210 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: It's not like she's I mean, I don't know what 211 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 4: she's doing right, but I'm not. I don't think she's 212 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: out here just swinging like oh if I have a boyfriend, 213 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: like yo, it's just it's open. We're all just kind 214 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: of going around want because think about it, right now, 215 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 4: if that was the case, Dakota and her would be together, 216 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: right they. 217 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: Exactly think about it, Yeah, because that would make things 218 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: easy for them because they seem to not be able 219 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: to quit each other. 220 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, ultimately speaking, I think that stage 221 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: of her life was definitely the past. I don't think 222 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: that's something that she does anymore. I don't think that's 223 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: something that she brags about, and she doesn't hold that 224 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: as a badge of honor per se. You know what 225 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 4: I mean. It's kind of like how Kim K came 226 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: out with the ray J thing. It's not like she 227 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 4: knows that that's will blew her up. But she's not 228 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: gonna be like, yeah, you know, that's that's me. 229 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, we have moved on significantly. So I want 230 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: to ask you, since your friends of Dakota, this is 231 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: really one I want to talk to you about. Is 232 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: like Dakota and how he's been dealing with the fact 233 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: that she's been the lead on the show where she's 234 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: supposed to find a husband and they share a child, 235 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: and I mean there may have been some rumors about 236 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: the fact that possibly they were hooking up still before 237 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: she left to film the show. 238 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: I mean, are you asking me a question or. 239 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: I mean I said a general general sense about how 240 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: he's doing and how he feels towards her. 241 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: Oh, I mean Dakota loves her. I mean I'm being 242 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 4: honest with you. I mean, like that's ultimately speaking. I 243 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: think he's in love with her, but I mean it's 244 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: it's tough. I mean, everyone looks at him as he's 245 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 4: done a terrible thing, which he has done. He did 246 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 4: a stupid ass thing. And I'll be the first part well, 247 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 4: I mean, then let's not even talk about that. Then right, 248 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 4: let's not even touch on that. Then that's fine. That's 249 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: not even touch on that then. But the fact is 250 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: that Dakota is doing well. I mean he's co parenting 251 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 4: with Taylor. He tries to do the best he can. 252 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: He loves you know, being a father to ever and 253 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: he will never do anything to compromise that. So I 254 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: think that's the most important thing. But just think about it. 255 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: I mean everyone is just kind of looking at him 256 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: as this bad person. He's not a bad person. He 257 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: does stupid ass things and I can tell you that, 258 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: but I think, uh, truthfully, I think there's no better 259 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 4: match than Taylor and Dakota. I know that's controversial. I 260 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: know everyone's gonna be like, there's no way, blase blah. 261 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 4: But like they both like are very similar in how 262 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: they react to things, like when the whole entire situation 263 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: happened within the season, that just came out, like he 264 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: went off the grid for like a month. I haven't, 265 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: like I didn't hear from him, like he just went 266 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: off the grid. Which goes into the fact is Taylor 267 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 4: literally just did that what she posted some of the 268 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: story like yeah, I'm pulling off the grid. They do 269 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 4: the same exact thing, but they're both so stubborn truthfully, 270 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: all they need to do couple's therapy and commit to 271 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: couples therapy that shit will work, truthfully. 272 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're saying all this in the midst of 273 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: her being the lead of the upcoming season of The 274 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: Bachelor're at. 275 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't care respectfully, not no, no disrespect 276 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 4: to your to what you know, her being the lead 277 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 4: and all that. Not saying that disrespectfully to you as well, Ben, 278 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 4: But like, I don't really care because at the end 279 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: of the day, I think that they are the I 280 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: think they're meant to be together. I truly do, and 281 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: I think that they both have one goal in mind 282 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: is to be a good parent forever. So truthfully, I 283 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 4: think that's the only thing that comes to my mind. 284 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: And with the Bachelorette, like I want her to kill 285 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: it and I want her to find her man, But like, 286 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: I don't know if some of these men will have 287 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: ulterior motives with her, do you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 288 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: it's like I almost want them to have their own 289 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: Like they got to be proven multi millionaires before they 290 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: can come and try to talk to her. That's the 291 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: kind of way I feel about the whole situation, not 292 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: saying that Dakota is a multi millionaire and all that, 293 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: but I just know to ask she brings a lot 294 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: of influence with her that will make you to the 295 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 4: point that you can be a multi millionaire and be fortunate, 296 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So, like that's why I 297 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: feel this whole I don't know, I don't know, I 298 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: don't know. 299 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: You're giving us a lot here. 300 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's interesting. I mean, would you say 301 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: it this way if you're if you're a fan of 302 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: The Bachelor at yo keem, Yeah, your hope for her 303 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: would be to end up with Dakota at the end 304 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: of all this even would that Would that be a 305 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: fair way to say this? 306 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope that she goes through the process and 307 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: I think she learn about like just just about the 308 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 4: dating scene as a whole, right, because I think she's 309 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: been with Dakota and yeah, right, she doesn't really hasn't 310 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: really test the waters. In my opinion. Maybe I could 311 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: be wrong, right, and she'll see like the grass eight 312 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: the green on the other side, though, you know, Like, 313 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: and I again I'm to say, like I'm holding the Cora. 314 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 4: I hold Dakota accountable to everything that he's done. And 315 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: all that, and he holds himself accountable too, and I 316 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: think he has learned from a lot of the stuff 317 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: that he's been through. And that's me telling you genuinely, 318 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 4: as if you know me, I stand on truth. I 319 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: will call bullshit out when it's there. But like, genuinely, 320 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: I think there's not a better person out there. And 321 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: it's nothing to do with the franchise because I'm rooting 322 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: for the Bachelorette. I'm rooting for her as well being 323 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: a great lead. But like if Jessica Simpson's on her, 324 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: hell yeah, let's go find her somebody else. You know 325 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, hell yeah, let's find her another 326 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: Nikola say, like you know what I mean, Like, I'm 327 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: cool with that, right, I'm cool with that. But with Taylor, 328 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: it's a whole different dynamic that we don't know. Like 329 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: there's so much to unpack with that, and there's not 330 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: enough time to unpack that during the time period that 331 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: you have on the Bachelorette, even when you're in Fantasy Suite. 332 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: I obviously I haven't been at Fantasy Suite's right, but 333 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 4: like it's still just not enough because she probably has 334 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: so much to unpack with somebody who she's going to 335 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: get involved with. And again I'm not saying I know 336 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: her like that. I'm an acquaintance. I've met her a 337 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: couple of times and so forth close with Dakota. So 338 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: I just want you to make sure you know, like, 339 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 4: I'm not speaking on behalf of her, but I'm speaking 340 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: on what I think that's clear. 341 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: Do you think the kiddo will show up to this season? 342 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 4: No showing up? No, he's not. 343 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: No, not for an appearance. Come on, gott to no. Oh, 344 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: apparently we have confirmation that he does not show up. 345 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 4: He said today. 346 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well, my biggest takeaway is that you said 347 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: that he's in love with her and that you think 348 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: that they belong together. My interpretation of that is that 349 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: he was upset when she left to film the show 350 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: and that he's probably still going to involve himself in 351 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: her life beyond just being a co parent. 352 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: Well, I will I'll say this though, like he's he's 353 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: not upset or man like he was genuinely happy for because. 354 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: Like jealous or like like of course she would be jealous, 355 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 5: I would be us would be the more a way 356 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 5: of like damn, like she's going to be dating all 357 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 5: these men in front of my face. 358 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 4: All those things are going to be happen. She's gonna 359 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: see her get emotionally vulnerable with another man on TV 360 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: in front of your face. Imagine that. 361 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 3: Do you think he'll watch Why would he watch it? 362 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: I mean I'd watch it? 363 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: No way she would? 364 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? You would want to see what 365 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: she says if she doing the same things she did 366 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 4: to me today, I would. I know. 367 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 2: I couldn't help it. I'd have to know. Yeah, like 368 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: Jared doesn't even watch himself, so he wouldn't be able 369 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: to watch this. Yeah, let's go into the headlines because 370 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: a lot of them are very interesting and I can 371 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: interpret through what you've said how they might be playing out. 372 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: All right, So in lack Week's Franky Friday, we talked 373 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: about a twenty twenty five recap post that she posted 374 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: on Instagram like a week or so ago, and it 375 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: had very specific lyrics, and our producer did a really, 376 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: really deep dive on the internet to find who was 377 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: the singer writer of that song and it was you 378 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: listeners who came through and you pointed us in the 379 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: right direction. And if you do not want spoilers or 380 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: potential spoilers or any like real speculation. Don't listen to 381 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: this part, okay, I'm letting you press fast forward. So 382 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: we want to shout out to Shoshana Price and Brook Dean, 383 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: who messages Shoshana, said this just listen to Franky Friday. 384 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you will see this, but the 385 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: whole song post convo maybe a bigger clue and spoiler. 386 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: Then you realize if you go and listen to the 387 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: Call Her Daddy podcast with Taylor that she recorded before 388 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: she started filming. She said she was casually seeing a 389 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: musician and Alex's host asked if he'd show up to 390 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: the Bachelorette, and Taylor said, who knows. Now if you 391 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: think that that's already kind of spoiler and you don't 392 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: want to go any further into spoiler speculation than fast forward. 393 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: Now fast forward, fast forward. Okay, So now listener, Brook, 394 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: she said, does a video from Ben Lamb and he 395 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: wrote the song that you talk about in the podcast, 396 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: and this is who Taylor was dating before being on 397 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 2: the Bachelorette and it is the same song she used. 398 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: And she liked this video of the song that he 399 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: posted on his end. In the video, we see a 400 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: shot at a woman with long hair looking out of 401 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: a car window and a shot at the suitcase in 402 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 2: an airport. Those good stuff right here, in fact. 403 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: Is it good stuff? I don't like being spoiled, Yes. 404 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: It is. It's very telling she may end up with 405 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: some guys she already knew. 406 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: Here's what I like about what I'm hearing, though, Taylor 407 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: is what we're throwing it back. And I still say 408 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: this and I believe it. Taylor's season is going to 409 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: be a throwback season. It is going to be iconic 410 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: like the seasons that we remember in the past. Because 411 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 3: here's what I know of Taylor so far and from 412 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 3: this and everything else is I don't think she's going 413 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: to follow any rules. I think she's going to do 414 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: it her way. I think we're gonna get to know 415 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: Taylor from it. I think she's going to be incredible 416 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: at bringing out the emotion out of her cast members 417 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: and leaning in a little bit. That's something we've missed 418 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: for many years. And I believe that when we watch 419 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: Taylor Freaky Paul's season, we're going to see this and 420 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: at times feel awkward like that secondary awkwardness and I 421 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: miss that about the show. 422 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: No, I agree. I agree. I think it's going to 423 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 4: be legend. Truthfully, I think you think Blake will show 424 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: up Blake mooyne, Yes, I do you think he shows up? 425 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: He did not? 426 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 4: I do Blake if he shows up legend he doesn't. 427 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Well, I don't really know, but I know that he's 428 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: not with her because I met a girl the other 429 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: day who he was dming on a on a dating app. 430 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean he's not with her, Ashley. 431 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: Min Okay, So guys, the next post also, I mean 432 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: the next like headline, we have another fun little speculation. 433 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: We can do with it, Ben, you want to read it. 434 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: Well, we just talked about it earlier. I mean, Taylor 435 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: posts that she's going off the grid. We talked about 436 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: her reaction to life and to everything going on. It 437 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: does feel like from some of her posts recently, she's 438 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 3: a little like overwhelmed, which would make sense. This is 439 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: a whole new world. She's carrying two shows right now, 440 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: she's very well known in the United States of America. 441 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: Feels like it's getting to be a lot for her. 442 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: But on January eleven, Taylor posted on Instagram a shot 443 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 3: of an overstuffed bag in the backseat of a car 444 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: with a driver in the front. The text on the 445 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: screen reads, love going off the grid for a few 446 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 3: days to recharge. Hey, we can't get mad at her 447 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: for this. This is a smart, smart decision. 448 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: This is this is Ben, Come on, Ben, think about it. 449 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: She is she going off the grid or is she 450 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: going to a happy couple of weekend? 451 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. 452 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: It's definitely a happy couple weekend because she's not gonna 453 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: be able to have her phone there. 454 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 4: No, wait, yes she will. Are you kidding me? She 455 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: headed throughout the whole entire filming of The Bachelorette. 456 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: Ben, do you have your phone during happy a couple 457 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: of weekends? 458 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 3: They took it from us. 459 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're not Taylor. Respectfully, I'm sorry, but you're 460 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 4: not Taylor. Frankie Paul, I'm obviously not. 461 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: No, there's a zero chance out there. She got to 462 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: do a lot of fun stuff during her season, including 463 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: like private jets and Instagram posts. And yes, I was not. 464 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 4: Saying I'm telling you her phones definitely in happy couples. 465 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a personal choice, though it could be like, hey, 466 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 3: I want to focus on being at the happy couple. 467 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: I don't want my phone, I want the distractions. I 468 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 3: don't want to call me. It could be just more 469 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 3: of a personal choice for her to say no, take 470 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 3: it from me, because I will say. The one thing 471 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: Taylor did not get so many other leads, every other 472 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 3: lead has gotten, is that three months away from technology 473 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: that I tell you, what is something I missed dearly? 474 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: It's yeah, missed it. I miss not I miss not 475 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: being forced to not have my phone like where everybody 476 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: knew I was at. 477 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: I did too. I do too at times. But I 478 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: also like being in the safe quarters of being like 479 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: on a set and not having my phone and knowing 480 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: that if a phone is nearby if needed, and a 481 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: medical team is also nearby. Okay, so I'm not like 482 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: trying to go in the middle of like any any 483 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: location without a phone near facts though, Okay, do you, Hikim, 484 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: have any insight from Dakota as far as like you 485 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 2: know this guy that she was dating beforehand? 486 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 4: I mean, very minimal, But it's gonna be more biased 487 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 4: because it's gonna be biased. 488 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: What's the bias? I don't know much I know, but 489 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: what's the bias? Like you didn't you thought he was kind. 490 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 4: Of I don't even know she had a boyfriend beforehand, right, 491 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: that's something that needs confirmation. She actually had a boyfriend. 492 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: Not a real boyfriend, somebody she was dating. 493 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: She was honest about you. 494 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: Could have been exactly. But yeah, I mean, I don't 495 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 4: know much about him. I just know like it was 496 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 4: very uh yeah, it was very low key truthful. It 497 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 4: was just very low key. 498 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 3: It's very casual. Yea very casual. All right. We have 499 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: just a few more headlines here for you, Hiquem to 500 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: break down with us. Really, the most interesting one is 501 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: that Kelsey Anderson, who is engaged to Bachelor Joey, has 502 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: commented recently on Taylor Frankie Paul's Bachelor at season. I 503 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 3: think is a very wise take from Kelsey. Kelsey said 504 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: that it's gonna she believes it or remind her very 505 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: much of Hannah Brown's season and the drama that ensued 506 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: because of Hannah Brown being who she is, a big personality, 507 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: really not willing wanting to follow the Bachelor's rules, which 508 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: I think is a big deal and really great for TV. 509 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 3: But she also is wishing Taylor Frankie Paul the best 510 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: from this experience, unless she hopes that she can find 511 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: somebody hakeem if you were to break down kind of 512 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 3: in a similar breath at Kelsey, just did what you 513 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: think this season will be? Like, how would you describe it? 514 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: I think the reason why we can't really grasp it 515 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: truthfully is because she's the most unpredictable human being in 516 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 4: the world. She's literally the most un hilarious. She's literally 517 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 4: so unpredictable, and I feel like that's why. And she's 518 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 4: just so open and honest about every and anything when 519 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: it comes out to me like she'll tell you yeah, 520 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 4: I was thinking, yeah, I don't give about this. Whole 521 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 4: life is already out there on the screen, right, So 522 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 4: it's kind of like I'm worried more for the guys 523 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: if they don't go around and find out they're gonna 524 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, because like on ours, if 525 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: if anything from my season happens on Taylor season, it's 526 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: a fucking rat. Let me tell you that right now. 527 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 4: Do you imagine she gonna turn the fuck up? She's 528 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 4: a crash out. So that's the part that I'm trying 529 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: to like figure out, like if she gonna be crashing 530 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: out type of thing or is she going to be 531 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: putting them up in their place or guys gonna be 532 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 4: trying to do stupid Like, there's just so many things 533 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 4: that could possibly happen on this journey. That's what I'm 534 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: thinking about. But the epicness, if that's a word, it's 535 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 4: absolutely gonna be on the velocity of Hannah Brown season 536 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 4: and how she picked off the podium and she. 537 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, so why it's just so smart that Yeah. 538 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think all the above everything 539 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: you said, I think will happen, and I think the 540 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: show is made for that to happen. There's there's so 541 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: many moments during a bachelorette it's experience where those things 542 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 3: can happen. Right early on, we're gonna get the villain, obviously, 543 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 3: she's gonna try to She's going to try to find 544 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 3: out who the villain is. And when she does that 545 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: villain's gonna come up with a roar and she's going 546 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: to place that person down and get them out of there. 547 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 4: Or will she like the villain? Higgs? Will she like 548 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 4: the villain? 549 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: I hope not. That would be really spress. 550 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 4: But you have no clue because at the same time, 551 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: you could see her liking somebody who's super alpha, who's 552 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 4: not scared of her, and this, this and that. So 553 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: she might like the bad dude, the bad guy, right, 554 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: or she doesn't. She's less just beyond right. Dakota not 555 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 4: the most altful when it come down to her, right, 556 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 4: she she pretty alful, Right, Dakota's alpha, but she out 557 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: full right, she right, So she's looking for a man. 558 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: If she's in the dog park, she's the one taking 559 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: Dakota down. 560 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: No, we're not doing that. 561 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: I thought it was good. 562 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: A strong personality, is what he was trying to say, 563 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: even though some may recommend that somebody with such a 564 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: big personality should maybe pair up with somebody who's a 565 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: little lesser then. 566 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 4: But yes, I pray she doesn't pair up with a 567 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: Mormon though, that just for like, come home girl, you 568 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: know what I mean, you can get that in your backyard. 569 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: Why why are you gonna do that? I hope she gets 570 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 4: somebody from like Chicago or like Miami, New York. 571 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: She has kids that must stay in Salt Lake. Though, 572 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: I got it. 573 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: I got you. 574 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: But I think there's a compromises that could be happening. 575 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 3: Right halfway happy, halfway happy. Final headline is this a key? 576 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: I want you to to comment on this when I 577 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: am older than you, but I'm assuming it was about 578 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: the same age and you knew of Jessica Simpson. 579 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson was he already made comments about this. 580 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: She blew was blowing up when I was like in 581 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: that phase of life where you know. 582 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: When he was going through puberty. 583 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, when he. 584 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: Was when he was a freshman in high school. That 585 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson nicolsche era was specifically really intense when I 586 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: was a freshman and sophomore in high school. And I'm 587 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: still to this day one of the best reality programs 588 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: we've ever had, actually probably the most reality reality of 589 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: any follow us. 590 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: So good, it was so good. You're not single, but 591 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: you have buddies who are single. If Jessica Simpson becomes 592 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 3: the Bachelorette, there's rumors out there that she's being kind 593 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 3: of courted to be the next Bachelorette that came out 594 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: this week. Would would your buddies your age be down 595 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: to go on that show and try to swoon her? 596 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 4: No question? 597 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: Now I agree, I think my I have so many 598 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: single buddies that'd be like, sign me up. 599 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: No question. I can tell you right now, you Ashley, 600 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 4: you know Brandon Jones, Brandon Jones, you signed him up, 601 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: he would absolutely beyond there for sure. Jessica Simpson. Jessica 602 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 4: Simpson was like ten out of ten back in Today, 603 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 4: which was Dave Nick Lachet. 604 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: Guys, I think that this would be the most fantastic 605 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: thing in the entire world because it's like the best, 606 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 2: the most classic Drake dating show, you know, best in 607 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: my opinion, but classic dating show the Bachelor meets the 608 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: best reality TV program I've ever seen? 609 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: Am I gonna get in trouble if I say there's 610 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: only one way to go though, if Jessica Simpson becomes 611 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: the Bachelorette, and that's to have Britney Spears follower. 612 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brittany, it does not like the public eye anymore. 613 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean there's only one way to go, right, 614 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: Just bring back that era and early rock all of 615 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: our worlds, like do. Jessica Simpson convinced Brittany that, hey, 616 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: you know what, we got some guys here for you. 617 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: Well, guys, we have a quote from Jessica. 618 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: Can I say one more thing? 619 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, only sixteen class that you guys had 620 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 5: whole Yeah, he's. 621 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: A really fad right here. 622 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: I was a lucky guy on the show. 623 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 4: Had an eight pack, and I'm. 624 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: Like, bro, Bro, I left went fast. Bro. 625 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 4: Everybody had six packs on the beach. It was only 626 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 4: one person that, respectfully, there was only one person I 627 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 4: feel I would feel bad for. I'm like, damn, man, 628 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 4: how did you? How was your ego walking on the 629 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 4: beach with these guys? You know what I mean? 630 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: Like Jesus, you're talking about Vinnie. 631 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't say his name. I didn't say his name. 632 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 4: Stop it. I didn't say his name. You ain't. You ain't, Bro? 633 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: No, I know it's wild Ashley. What's the car? 634 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: Let's do the Okay, obviously this is we We put 635 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: this in Frenky Friday, even though it's obviously not a 636 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: Frankie related story. But here we go. Jessica Simpson, when 637 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: asked by TMZ how she feels about these rumors, she says, 638 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: I have options. I'm good and in response to the 639 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: huge ratings Jessica's appearance would bring on the show as 640 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: people have been talking about, she says, I don't care 641 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: about that. She also said she thinks that she's into 642 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: younger men at the moment, and I feel like younger 643 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: guys kind of have the confidence that like an older 644 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: woman would need. 645 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: That's good for her. 646 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, for her. I'm glad, Jessica. I'm happy. It's nice 647 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: to know Jessica's happy. Oh Keem, thanks for coming on today. 648 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: Thanks to you for giving us the insights into what 649 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: we can expect with the season. This will be as 650 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 3: we've talked about, an unexpected season full of twists and turns. 651 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 3: And we'll continue to come here on the Almost Famous 652 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 3: podcast every Friday, breaking down Frankie Friday all the information 653 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: we can gather and gain into her world, into her life, 654 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: so that we can understand her better. Because here's the 655 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: truth for all of us here. Once you get to 656 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: know somebody, it's hard to not like them. So until 657 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 3: next time, I've been Ben. 658 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: I've been Ashley. See you guys. 659 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts on 660 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.