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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show with My Dog BD.
Speaker 2: We got a special We got a special episode for
Speaker 2: y'all today.
Speaker 4: And even before BD.
Speaker 2: Came and made this show special, I would always talk
Speaker 2: about this guy as someone who considered themselves and think
Speaker 2: of themselves as a good basketball man, someone who I
Speaker 2: like consider like that. I look to as like one
Speaker 2: of the most brilliant basketball monds that the game has
Speaker 2: ever seen, and I spoke about one to have him
Speaker 2: on the podcast. He's a two time champion, sixteen year
Speaker 2: NBA VET, four time NBA All Star, two time NBA
Speaker 2: All Defense First Team, two time NBA All Defense Second Team,
Speaker 2: led the league in assists for three seasons, was the
Speaker 2: Steels leader, once one of the best point guards to
Speaker 2: play the game, and when you when you keep it
Speaker 2: too real. They try to say that you not what
Speaker 2: you really are. One of the best point guards we've
Speaker 2: ever seen, graced this game, no nother Dan, the one
Speaker 2: and only Rayjon Rondoe, Welcome.
Speaker 4: To the show.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that, man, Appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Love absolutely absolutely, man, abd, I gotta, I gotta, I
Speaker 2: gotta piggyback off that intro.
Speaker 3: Man, I gotta ask some sauce.
Speaker 5: You know, he is the Maestro, the mass scientist, the Einstein,
Speaker 5: the uh basically the Boskyacht of dictator ship.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, Like, appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Like the way you orchestrate you know, uh, just your style, bro,
Speaker 5: your style, you a one on one you original, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. I've been a fan of you
Speaker 5: since Kentucky, you know, when you got in the league.
Speaker 5: You know it was one of the dudes. I hate
Speaker 5: it the most because with hate comes admiration. You feel
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And I just like, I just always
Speaker 5: watch you play, you know what I mean, because like,
Speaker 5: like the way the way you orchestrated the game, the
Speaker 5: way you paint it was just like I love the
Speaker 5: way you paint it. As an artist, it was just
Speaker 5: it was just a joy to watch. So, Hall of Famer,
Speaker 5: I appreciate you being on the show as well, my dad.
Speaker 6: I appreciate y'all man like that. Uh, that type of
Speaker 6: love gives me chills. Man to hear from the periods
Speaker 6: and especially guys, I respect you know that most so
Speaker 6: I appreciate that. I appreciate the love, appreciate the honesty,
Speaker 6: and let's get it.
Speaker 4: Sha't you coming up? Hey? But let's.
Speaker 2: We are just in our own separate places, just finished
Speaker 2: washing watching this Bosston Celtics Cleveland Cavaliers game.
Speaker 4: No, what's your what's your thoughts on these two teams
Speaker 4: that you.
Speaker 2: Know, you had the street going with Cleveland fifteen and
Speaker 2: oh they going into the defendant champs house. You who's
Speaker 2: a champion yourself? You know how it is coming off
Speaker 2: a championship season. Maybe you drop a couple of games
Speaker 2: here and they're just not locked in right, and you know,
Speaker 2: so then everybody moves on to the next hot thing
Speaker 2: that is the Cleveland Cavaliers, and then you know, you
Speaker 2: see what happened today?
Speaker 4: What do you make of what just happened in these
Speaker 4: two teams? As this season player?
Speaker 1: There's levels to it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: The champion of what time it was at the crib
Speaker 6: that wasn't allowed body to come in their crib and
Speaker 6: you know, make.
Speaker 1: It hard for him.
Speaker 6: Kudos to the Celtics, like they're being prepared, the only
Speaker 6: team has figured it out so far. So other than that,
Speaker 6: I'm not surprised, you know that the team that knock.
Speaker 4: Them off bed. What's your thoughts on that game.
Speaker 3: The more I watched Cleveland, the more I like them.
Speaker 5: I just think that they got to just figure out
Speaker 5: how to make Boston play to their game and their pace,
Speaker 5: and it's gonna be really predicated on I think Darius
Speaker 5: Garland in the way Allen played Jared Allen. You know,
Speaker 5: like they're gonna beat the cornerstones of that team and
Speaker 5: they're gonna be the ones that's gonna really take a
Speaker 5: lot of pressure off of Donovan Mitchell and Evan Mobley.
Speaker 5: But I mean, great matchup when you look at versatility,
Speaker 5: like intensity, but you know Boston is a bus saw.
Speaker 3: They hard to guard bro.
Speaker 2: Now for sure, and tonight they what they did show
Speaker 2: you was like at no point in the game where
Speaker 2: they ever faced and that's that's that's having that chip.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh they come to here and they think
Speaker 2: they gonna come here and do this, like these are
Speaker 2: the games that you get serious for right when you're
Speaker 2: defending the title, you know what I'm saying, And that
Speaker 2: that's the game that they got serious for.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: If you're the Cavs, I think one thing that like
Speaker 2: you look at how the cast finished the game. They
Speaker 2: finished the game with one big. Their best lineups have
Speaker 2: two bigs. You know, Todd Jeron finished the game because
Speaker 2: of what he brings offensively. They don't necessarily trust the
Speaker 2: Okoros and the Dean Ways offensively against a team like Boston,
Speaker 2: you know. So when you look at those couple of things,
Speaker 2: I think you have to take a step back and
Speaker 2: you quickly realize and not to overreact, but that Cavaliers
Speaker 2: team is going to quickly realize like, oh okay, we
Speaker 2: just saw that.
Speaker 4: Now that was something different.
Speaker 2: How we take the next step is how can we
Speaker 2: how we react to playing a team like that? And
Speaker 2: so I think overall it's a great matchup though that
Speaker 2: NBA Cup.
Speaker 1: Series, that environment, that atmosphere. Look at Test one.
Speaker 4: Don't obviously being great that you were there.
Speaker 2: I feel like at one point while you were there
Speaker 2: and KG and all those guys that left. You were
Speaker 2: for sure the best play guard in the league and
Speaker 2: top two or three best players in the league while
Speaker 2: you're there, and then then you left and it wasn't
Speaker 2: all love. Do you still feel get to fill in
Speaker 2: there and get the love there of like that's home
Speaker 2: for you or do they not necessarily give you that?
Speaker 6: No, They've always given me that, even even after winning
Speaker 6: chip with the Lakers. You know, they still welcome you home.
Speaker 6: A lot of workers that were there when I was,
Speaker 6: you know, back in the day, that's still there. So
Speaker 6: it's all love, family, a lot of great people that
Speaker 6: work in the organization.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 5: Man, you are one of the few players to win
Speaker 5: a championship for the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 1: Lakers. The guy who won Minneapolis Lakers in Boston.
Speaker 3: Was the only one, you know, So you're the only one.
Speaker 1: You know the Lakers. Yeah, I got it two of us.
Speaker 5: So los Angeles Boston championship versus a Los Angeles championship.
Speaker 1: Here you compare it to you can't compare it.
Speaker 6: You know, you can't compare it honestly, because the twenty
Speaker 6: twenty we were in the bubble, so we didn't get
Speaker 6: and get a parade, So I only had one parade
Speaker 6: and that was the most amazing thing that's happened to
Speaker 6: me in basketball. You know, just that type of love
Speaker 6: and reaction. How to you know, to see a fan
Speaker 6: you've seen this year, but to be a part of it,
Speaker 6: to get on a duckboat go on to.
Speaker 1: Tour, it was amazing. So that's the only opportunity I
Speaker 1: got to have a parade.
Speaker 6: But that particular time when I won in twenty twenty,
Speaker 6: you know, my son was in the bubble with me,
Speaker 6: so that made that moment, you know, that was more
Speaker 6: special than you win it at.
Speaker 4: Twenty Oh that's the picture behind you.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, that's that picture was far
Speaker 5: bro That's one of the most iconic championship pictures in
Speaker 5: the history the lea.
Speaker 1: I had no idea he must have been watching.
Speaker 2: So speaking of the bubble, when people try to say
Speaker 2: it's a bubble championship, is this as someone who's won
Speaker 2: a championship in the bubble someone who's won a championship
Speaker 2: out in the bubble?
Speaker 4: How do you compare the two from.
Speaker 2: That aspect of not traveling or being in the bubble,
Speaker 2: the different challenges or lack there are or you know.
Speaker 6: To me, I enjoyed the bubble because you get to
Speaker 6: see the guy every day that you walking past. You know,
Speaker 6: you get to see the enemy. And there's no distractions,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. There's no outside you know,
Speaker 6: there's no hotel flights, and everybody is in one room.
Speaker 6: There's no excuses. It's check ball, you know, fan, No,
Speaker 6: there's no advantages. Yeah, it's my best, my five against
Speaker 6: your best. Vive and figure it out. And you got
Speaker 6: to obviously the seven games to figure it out. But
Speaker 6: I love that that mind, that concept. But we go
Speaker 6: right to the room, then we go to film. We
Speaker 6: were we was able to learn a lot more during
Speaker 6: that time than I would say if we were able to, like,
Speaker 6: you know, go home, practice and get hel distractions, don't
Speaker 6: think about the game. But in the bubble, that's all
Speaker 6: you're thinking about obviously. You know, it's like in real
Speaker 6: life and playoffs and you're on the road. You know,
Speaker 6: you go home, you think.
Speaker 1: About the game.
Speaker 6: But like when you're in the bubble with everything and
Speaker 6: every you can go to your boys room, you can
Speaker 6: talk about it, like and you've got to figure it
Speaker 6: out on the fly and you.
Speaker 3: See an enemy's every.
Speaker 1: Time, ok, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We had that's crazy.
Speaker 6: In the same place, you know what I mean, We
Speaker 6: had a couple of meetings to where, you know, things
Speaker 6: that we're gonna play, so we all we saw each
Speaker 6: other all the time.
Speaker 1: And I love you. I love that that feeling.
Speaker 2: That's crazy too, because when you play someone that meaningful
Speaker 2: playoff seats, there's naturally a beef created.
Speaker 4: Like like, it's naturally bro, I don't really like you like.
Speaker 1: You third game for sure, you like man.
Speaker 2: Like you. It's naturally created, and y'all may see each
Speaker 2: other somewhere years down the road to be like.
Speaker 4: Man, Bro, that was fun and that was crazy.
Speaker 2: But right after, like during that, it's a beef creator
Speaker 2: in the year, it's like it's a beef like Ronald
Speaker 2: like you man like because y'all are going after the
Speaker 2: safe d.
Speaker 4: And it's a tense.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved it, you know, I mean, it was it
Speaker 1: was fun to be a part of.
Speaker 4: That's a whole different mind dude.
Speaker 2: That's why I love you and respect you, bro, because
Speaker 2: people don't even understand that mind game, bro, Like that's
Speaker 2: it's guys, and you notice that game in that movement
Speaker 2: that didn't understand you were playing that mind game like yeah, bro.
Speaker 1: Like come on, man, what were doing.
Speaker 6: I was talking about how me and Brown was looking
Speaker 6: at the game like it was Boston Miami, and I
Speaker 6: was like, I got who was at the sound of
Speaker 6: Stephen brad Steven, he was like he got spoken. So
Speaker 6: I was like, we were, like I said, we mentally
Speaker 6: we were preparing, like to go to the war and
Speaker 6: figure out, Okay, I got to beat this coach and
Speaker 6: he saying I gotta beat this coach.
Speaker 1: And we knew each other's bag whichever way, whichever rout
Speaker 1: we took, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So that's why company we was gonna win that bad boy,
Speaker 6: even before the ball we felt like we were the ones,
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, we had a hell of a season.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: To talk about your mentality just like the brand you wanted,
Speaker 5: Like how did you.
Speaker 3: Cook that up? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like did you like growing up? And like you know,
Speaker 5: who didn't you want to be like?
Speaker 3: And who.
Speaker 1: Crediting bed? I didn't watch basketball growing up.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch basketball growing up. I thought I was
Speaker 1: an NFL player. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was playing football.
Speaker 6: I was always outside, I was active. I didn't do
Speaker 6: no no TV watching. I didn't watch no local team,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. I didn't watch a little card.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 6: That's why it wasn't a big differ because I didn't
Speaker 6: grow up a fan anything. So when I picked up
Speaker 6: the game and I felt like, Okay, I was good
Speaker 6: enough to do it. I can do it as a goal,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Like, I didn't grow up
Speaker 6: in anything like I want to be in. They play
Speaker 6: grow up No, not like my son's names are. To me,
Speaker 6: I was just a kid on the street, just having
Speaker 6: fun and joint sports, being active. When it came that decision,
Speaker 6: I said, I was exposed to a different lifestyle. Introduced
Speaker 6: Derek Anderson. He kind of took me on his wing
Speaker 6: as a mentor.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, that's how you're living, or this is
Speaker 1: what you're doing every day waking up, Okay, cool and me,
Speaker 1: we're going to be hard. And Introduced to Mike Bibbie.
Speaker 1: When I went out to Sacramento for a couple of
Speaker 1: days worked out and I'm like, damn, this is the life. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: let me get to it.
Speaker 6: And after that I kind of put my my hard
Speaker 6: head on, my heart head on and just worked. I
Speaker 6: was like, I gotta figure out how to get this.
Speaker 6: I mean this type of the vacations. I mean, this
Speaker 6: is all the means to come with it. So that
Speaker 6: was the goal of mine. That's how I did it.
Speaker 4: How did you know what was right? Though?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: To not watch the game at all, end all the
Speaker 2: past and said to see the floor the way you
Speaker 2: see the floor, which is different than just about anybody,
Speaker 2: and see the floor, how did you figure it out out?
Speaker 6: It sounds crazy. I love the game. I played the
Speaker 6: game like so, I always play with older kids, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I was the youngest on the court and older brother play,
Speaker 6: you know, not getting picked up from whatever it's hooping.
Speaker 6: And then we played growing up, my boys talk about
Speaker 6: all the time. We walked differ neighborhoods, we played any
Speaker 6: anywhere everywhere around the city and we just hoo. But
Speaker 6: as far I was knowledge of the game, my high
Speaker 6: school coach shout out of Doug baby. He brought me
Speaker 6: start bringing it down to game down to me as
Speaker 6: a freshman, and I was like, okay, I was I
Speaker 6: was frustrated. I hate seeing myself on tape, and I
Speaker 6: was like, but the tapes was telling the truth. I
Speaker 6: mean it was it was giving me the answer to
Speaker 6: the test. So I locked into that, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 6: what can I be great?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I mean I always wanted to have the answer to
Speaker 1: the test.
Speaker 6: Like my older brother taught me everything you do mathematically,
Speaker 6: so I wanted to be the first to go to
Speaker 6: the board the answers. That's how it was in basketball. Okay,
Speaker 6: the coach is telling me his film is answers. So
Speaker 6: now I go on the court. I know what you're
Speaker 6: doing before you know what you're doing in a sense
Speaker 6: because of your habits. So I just studied and learned
Speaker 6: and locked that locked in that way and just kept
Speaker 6: it going ship and just learned the game. And I
Speaker 6: loved the like the line of Sponge, give me everything
Speaker 6: you got from all the grades I played with.
Speaker 1: I'm taking a little bit of this, little bit of
Speaker 1: that and then implementing the guys I played with.
Speaker 6: That's how I love to play with the Cousins in
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Speaker 6: I was able to get a lot of great information,
Speaker 6: and like I said, I always just wanted to sow
Speaker 6: as much as I could from all all of them.
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Speaker 5: Like when you came intead of league, it's almost like
Speaker 5: your gay went to a whole like you was called
Speaker 5: in college?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 3: List Let me bro ya.
Speaker 1: Listen. We had like Paul McDonald No. Three McDonald's Americans,
Speaker 1: and we bringing about on the court.
Speaker 6: And we can get up the court and go I mean,
Speaker 6: we had we had some players, but like I said,
Speaker 6: I didn't you know, he didn't need the hit her.
Speaker 1: There I'm where I am today. I'm thanking for it.
Speaker 6: But like, yeah, we was ready to go and I
Speaker 6: needed this space and let me go, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. But didn't let me do that at first though.
Speaker 5: That's what I was saying. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 5: You came in with with with a chip on your shoulder.
Speaker 1: I was disrespected.
Speaker 5: And on top of that, you have vts, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, you had like superstar vets that like
Speaker 5: you gotta have that, you know what I'm saying, to
Speaker 5: get they respect, Like talk about that, man, But.
Speaker 6: The crazy thing people ask me that, But I didn't. Man,
Speaker 6: I didn't grow up a fan of none of them,
Speaker 6: respect all of the I didn't grow up a fan of.
Speaker 1: Nobody, like you know, the big ticket. I know who
Speaker 1: the big ticket was, you know, I mean he played Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I didn't have cable. We don't watch TV. You know,
Speaker 1: they never I didn't watch see he got games. I
Speaker 1: didn't really watch brand in Seattle, so I don't. I
Speaker 1: didn't so I wasn't. I was never in awe of anybody.
Speaker 1: It was just like, shit, okay, cool, this is what
Speaker 1: they do well. This is what I do well.
Speaker 6: So and knowing that KG was like he wanted me
Speaker 6: to stay, I was like, sure, let's get it, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like I said, I'm gonna earn
Speaker 6: their respect, but much more portly. I just knew what
Speaker 6: I wanted to be, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 6: I want to be the great they know you hear
Speaker 6: this shit about they can't win with a young point guard.
Speaker 6: Me and Perk got all the disrespect that. So I
Speaker 6: was like, okay, cool, it's a motivation. I was supposed
Speaker 6: to be a bus twenty first pick, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. So they I got traded to the Boston Think.
Speaker 6: You know, Thank goodness. That's you know, the way the
Speaker 6: world works.
Speaker 1: I like work.
Speaker 6: So other than that, I was always motivated, and I
Speaker 6: always wanted to prove people wrong.
Speaker 1: And I love to shut the motherfucker up, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's why I love going the road
Speaker 1: and playing. That's that's the best thing. That one of
Speaker 1: the best feelings.
Speaker 4: That's the fact shutting that crowd up. Yeah, man, I
Speaker 4: heard this story before.
Speaker 2: Where your rookie year you got obviously ray KG.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, not my rookie year, second year, second year.
Speaker 4: Second year, you got ray KG. Truth. Yeah, at that point,
Speaker 4: you still the young fella. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They stars, you still the young fella. And I heard
Speaker 2: there was a point very early in that season where
Speaker 2: you had to stop and like all three at one time,
Speaker 2: check them and try to fight them.
Speaker 1: Hell no, I ain't trying to fight.
Speaker 2: Like like just more so like letting them know, like
Speaker 2: I understand who y'all are, Like not necessarily like yo,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to fight y'all out at once, but I
Speaker 2: understand who y'all are. But there's a level of respect
Speaker 2: to be high here too.
Speaker 6: No, it was it was no, it was never no
Speaker 6: scenes like that between us really, you know the stuff
Speaker 6: here about maybe you know me and Ray or whatever
Speaker 6: the other that, But like, nah, Casey was from the
Speaker 6: first time we played. You know, we came in early,
Speaker 6: were spoken on in the championship. We came in like
Speaker 6: maybe three weeks before training camp started. First pick up,
Speaker 6: He's yelling screen screen screen, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, damn, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: It's a night and day difference. He in the paint
Speaker 6: so now I feel more cumforable, being able to getting
Speaker 6: to the ball. I ain't got to do this, but
Speaker 6: I got a nigga behind me talking. I mean, what's
Speaker 6: going on communication wise. So we've always had a great rapport.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know we but his just like with
Speaker 6: all my teammate at the same time, that's all love
Speaker 6: and for him, he was the one that helped me
Speaker 6: accountable when I fucked up.
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, I felt like that, ain't it.
Speaker 1: Or he'd be like, you know what, you got.
Speaker 6: A point stand on that, you know, I mean, so
Speaker 6: it was kind of like he would still teach me
Speaker 6: to rose, but also hold me accountable and not let
Speaker 6: me get away with the bullshit. Other times I may
Speaker 6: have gotten away with certain things.
Speaker 4: So so KG, you said, KG is your bet.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 6: I got went to all universities, Paul Price, University, Royality, University, and.
Speaker 1: To University show Yeah, I got traveling in all of them.
Speaker 3: It was Funsity Man.
Speaker 1: You see the show Boy, but see the first coulf
Speaker 1: years dealing with Paul Man. He was tough. Like that
Speaker 1: first year Paul.
Speaker 6: Left, he got hurt and he was like he got
Speaker 6: out of us and he took all back to La
Speaker 6: So it was it was a brief interaction him my
Speaker 6: first year. But then, like I said, you got around Kevin,
Speaker 6: but I feel like they all messed well.
Speaker 1: And when the one thing they did great was they
Speaker 1: was all sacrifice, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: That was like egos were a side or what about
Speaker 6: who got the biggest contract?
Speaker 1: And to me, KG sacrificed the most. I think he
Speaker 1: had made.
Speaker 6: The most at the time, you know, So he was
Speaker 6: always took the backseat, let them get the sh off.
Speaker 6: Then he'd be like, hey, bring that bitch down here,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So that's when he really
Speaker 6: was chopping to me. But other than that, he was
Speaker 6: with the sacrifice that screens no matter what, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, standing to pick a roll longer. That was
Speaker 6: the type of one of my greatest the best team
Speaker 6: I probably played with for sure.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's crazy. So just just as a leader, KG
Speaker 4: a different traps.
Speaker 6: Different I mean, his mindset, the way he approaches the game,
Speaker 6: his focus, like his discipline, his day to day routine,
Speaker 6: Like it's like him and I would say bron Or
Speaker 6: like the most strict on teammates I've ever played with.
Speaker 1: That dude.
Speaker 6: Everything always the same, like as the hell of experience,
Speaker 6: like to see that and be a teammate of that.
Speaker 4: Man dooe. We got on and you mentioned you had
Speaker 4: an exam today.
Speaker 2: Like exam you say you going back to school, talk
Speaker 2: like talk to us about that.
Speaker 4: What inspires you to go back?
Speaker 2: At this point, You've had a successful career, you've made money.
Speaker 2: Your focus is your son and helping him reach his dreams.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you back in school taking classes to get
Speaker 2: your degree.
Speaker 4: What drove you to do that? And how is it going?
Speaker 1: I was wrong, Well I'm backing usually Kentucky get my
Speaker 1: degree in Human communication communications.
Speaker 6: I would say, I try to make a lot of
Speaker 6: checklists and certain goals of mine always want to check
Speaker 6: them out, and right now I'm been fortunate to stay.
Speaker 1: My life is kind of a completed checklist.
Speaker 6: So I had to add more goals and that was
Speaker 6: one that, like I said, I left school sophomore year
Speaker 6: in Kentucky. I decided to go pro obviously, and then
Speaker 6: my get niggadviser shout out to Mike Mike Stone. He's
Speaker 6: been telling me to come back years after years, and
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'll get there when I get a chance.
Speaker 6: So me retired, I had a lot of downtime and
Speaker 6: I can't sit around and be the uber dad all
Speaker 6: day long because the kids got to go to school.
Speaker 6: So I'm like, shit, while they going to school, I
Speaker 6: could be learning and growing too. And I was like,
Speaker 6: you know, I want to graduate before my daughter graduates college.
Speaker 6: So we'll probably graduate actually this same time next year,
Speaker 6: next spring.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to doing that. I don't learn learn,
Speaker 1: I want to grow.
Speaker 4: You know, dude, you got a daughter about to graduate college.
Speaker 1: No, No, she's graduate in high school.
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: She's seventeen a senior year going to Bama volleyball.
Speaker 5: So yeah, man, congratulation. So with school, you know, and
Speaker 5: now gave me a degree. Like, what's life like after basketball?
Speaker 5: With some of the things you went to?
Speaker 1: You know, now that you retired, it's been peaceful. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm newly wed. I got married by five
Speaker 1: months ago, so you.
Speaker 6: Know, I'm just enjoying life. Appreciate it, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. Only built that moving to the crib. Like
Speaker 6: I said, educate myself. H I spent a lot of
Speaker 6: time with the families being like I said, he you
Speaker 6: coach just living like man, like I said, learn it
Speaker 6: actually been messing with with your boy dot out there.
Speaker 6: I min walking a little bit, just kind of learned
Speaker 6: from them internship.
Speaker 3: He Hey, who hit the button?
Speaker 2: Doc?
Speaker 5: Bring Ron shoot Rondo right to the top. Man, would
Speaker 5: you go please save your coach? Man, I thought she
Speaker 5: was over there full time. You need to you need
Speaker 5: to go, say I got the kiddos.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: Nah, Man, they you know, a couple of these colleges here, Man,
Speaker 6: they ain't help them.
Speaker 1: They have been a big.
Speaker 5: Even Rondo won't go. I Rondo won't go even round
Speaker 5: don't go, won't go. You come on, man, you can't
Speaker 5: have a coach all all in the videos the commercials hey, man, hey,
Speaker 5: that's my first win.
Speaker 1: That boy got my first chip man.
Speaker 3: Michelle, y'all did that though, you did that?
Speaker 6: But listen, it's my philosophy. B I'll get that a lot, though.
Speaker 6: But my thing is, if you got the talent, why
Speaker 6: don't you do that? He can't place for you. I
Speaker 6: a'man ex huge for him, but I'm like there were
Speaker 6: times in the huddle where he'd be like, look, if
Speaker 6: y'all on the same page, I'll do all things.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like totally maybe he's used to, you know, people.
Speaker 6: Being able to manipulate and do their own thing, but
Speaker 6: he said some some great teams, name characters you know,
Speaker 6: came short obviously, But I feel like it was always
Speaker 6: on us regards us a talent, and then for me
Speaker 6: personally with you know, with the guy on some marribady
Speaker 6: around me.
Speaker 1: I was like, we can figure this out full times
Speaker 1: before you beat us whole times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're you're a genius, you know what.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Not everybody is DNA to learn.
Speaker 5: Some people have like incredible star power and incredible basketball
Speaker 5: playing capabilities, but there's like two levels of learning then
Speaker 5: trying to learn the entire DNA, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: And think like a coach be more than a coach,
Speaker 5: and I think like you need that coach to be
Speaker 5: able to like at least push you in that direction.
Speaker 5: You got that gift, bro, you got you got a
Speaker 5: wizard bag, you know what I mean, Like you was
Speaker 5: a baby wizard already.
Speaker 3: You already had that, you know what I mean, KG
Speaker 3: had that.
Speaker 5: But a lot of times the coach got to be able,
Speaker 5: you know, to set that buffet and say, look, these
Speaker 5: are these are all the other.
Speaker 3: Things that you can be capable of.
Speaker 2: No, you mentioned you said, I got to kiddos, So
Speaker 2: does that mean you would never full time coach until
Speaker 2: like your kids graduate.
Speaker 1: Know what I want to do.
Speaker 6: For my daughter senior year, so that was big is
Speaker 6: like me and my son. He just turned thirteen a
Speaker 6: couple of day. So uh, I'm okay with him, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, I have it enough. But like
Speaker 6: I just want to be there for my daughter senior year,
Speaker 6: all the prom, you know, the homecoming.
Speaker 1: She loves the party, so I gotta I gotta be here.
Speaker 3: You got that, you got that prom party. That's gonna
Speaker 3: be who that's going.
Speaker 1: That's going to trap me enough for us, you know boys.
Speaker 4: So coaching is ultimately what you want to do.
Speaker 6: Though one, and I want to I want to mess
Speaker 6: with the front office too, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: Like I want to do some internship. I'm gonna call
Speaker 6: Danny eventually get one of my guys that bleed in
Speaker 6: from day one. So just like I said, a guy
Speaker 6: that's in the front office want to get around and
Speaker 6: pick their brain. Stee from that side. But I definitely
Speaker 6: love teaching the game. And I would love to win it,
Speaker 6: you know, from both GM and a coach you.
Speaker 2: Know, moving to another frenchise that you want a championship with.
Speaker 2: You got a young coach, got who you played many
Speaker 2: of your years in the NBA with, possibly college y'all,
Speaker 2: y'all probably playing against the other in college. Uh you
Speaker 2: guys young JJ, REDDITCK y'all getting the coaching world taking
Speaker 2: over the Lakers.
Speaker 4: What do you make of the.
Speaker 2: Job he's done and what do you untimately think he
Speaker 2: becomes as a head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 6: I think he's in the hell of a job. You know,
Speaker 6: obviously get eighty back to what we know he's table
Speaker 6: playing on. You know, first and foremost, you know, you
Speaker 6: want your best player to be at all time, believe
Speaker 6: it in you very confident. And then you hear the
Speaker 6: comments in the media. You know, obviously everything is gonna
Speaker 6: translate to the wins. But at the same time, he's
Speaker 6: got the captains there, you know, Bron Obviously they have
Speaker 6: a great rapport already. So just having that grace and understanding,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, he's able to coach him as well.
Speaker 6: I think you know, you've seen a couple of times
Speaker 6: with this, so JJ you might getting on Bron which
Speaker 6: you know he's not combative in that matter, but he's
Speaker 6: able to be coachable and he maybe doing that standards
Speaker 6: ground the player see that, and I think that's allowing
Speaker 6: him to be like, Okay, we believe in this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look forward to the day you're ready to
Speaker 2: make that jump, because don't give me the assistant coach stuff.
Speaker 4: Don't don't give me the all.
Speaker 3: You need it, but you need to go do this, You.
Speaker 4: Need to go do that, and you don't have the experience.
Speaker 4: Don't give me that.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to hear that, because what they
Speaker 2: do know is Ron do is one of the greatest
Speaker 2: basketball buyers, the grace the NBA. Ronjo is an NBA
Speaker 2: champion already, right, Rondo is an All Star. Rondo is
Speaker 2: all defense, and you know he got the mind.
Speaker 4: He watched more film.
Speaker 2: And if you know anything about the NBA and the
Speaker 2: and the workers, you know Ron don't watch more film
Speaker 2: than the coaches watched already as a player. So I
Speaker 2: just don't want to hear when when Doe is ready
Speaker 2: to take that leap and he looking for a job,
Speaker 2: he's not looking for an assistant coach job. He's looking
Speaker 2: for a hand job because JJ's doing it. He's showing
Speaker 2: you that it's possible. And we know how smart Rondo is,
Speaker 2: so I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: Give me, give me some paces. We're gonna we're gonna craft.
Speaker 1: You know, I got a blue brain, and give me
Speaker 1: the pieces.
Speaker 2: And also standing on topic and speaking of the Lakers,
Speaker 2: obviously you play with a D again who you have
Speaker 2: balling in New Orleans and when you're with the Lakers,
Speaker 2: a D has his best time with the Lakers, no
Speaker 2: surprise there. But also playing with Brin You spoke a
Speaker 2: little bit about it earlier, but just talk to me
Speaker 2: about like going through the season as a two alphas
Speaker 2: b two guys. Who I mean, who knows which one
Speaker 2: of y'all smarter? It's not even a who's smarter, it's
Speaker 2: number one, Like the level of y'all brain. Like from
Speaker 2: a basketball standpoint, there is no one, a one that's
Speaker 2: just here. How was that experience with your resume and
Speaker 2: the respect that you have because bron know you got
Speaker 2: a basketball ye and you're coming into the squad. What
Speaker 2: was that experience like along the way going through the season.
Speaker 2: As you know, you growing to win a championship. You
Speaker 2: don't win a championship at Julee. You win the championship
Speaker 2: in January, you know, and growing through that. What was
Speaker 2: that experience like for y'all too, as the savants that
Speaker 2: y'all are.
Speaker 4: Uh, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a great moment.
Speaker 6: You know, we played together before, but it was a
Speaker 6: time where you know, I knew my role at the time,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So you know, we're two
Speaker 6: albums at the same time. I proved myself on being
Speaker 6: a star role player, you know what I mean, Like I.
Speaker 1: Knew my role.
Speaker 6: I wasn't a big dog or any teams I haven't
Speaker 6: played for it. So for me, I fell a line.
Speaker 1: I knew what it was, you know. I mean, it
Speaker 1: wasn't no ego beating the chest.
Speaker 6: It was like, Okay, I got I have an opinion,
Speaker 6: which he always respected it along with the coaching staff.
Speaker 6: So it was always a hell of a line of
Speaker 6: respect that we have for each other. At the end
Speaker 6: of the day, he's playing, you know, forty minutes, I'm
Speaker 6: playing twenty six.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know what I mean. So you know, as like
Speaker 1: I said, the day, it's all.
Speaker 6: About winning, and I was always trying to do the
Speaker 6: best to figure out the fire that should be on
Speaker 6: the floor, or you know, the two should be in
Speaker 6: rotations in the game, whatever team was the staff needed
Speaker 6: me to be at that particular time. That's the worro
Speaker 6: I tried to play because in the bubble I was
Speaker 6: out for six weeks when I broke my thumb.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the dope thing was Frank Bogo shout out to
Speaker 1: be homie again. He allowed me to get into.
Speaker 6: All the coaches zoms, so I'm understanding again from I'm
Speaker 6: on the Championship Coaches STAF. Basically the sixth month rehabing
Speaker 6: in LA then I come back. You know when we
Speaker 6: play Houston and how we were able to just from
Speaker 6: not playing the big the seven foots Javail and Dwight
Speaker 6: at all in Houston series and then we're playing against
Speaker 6: the Yoki. So it was like being able to be
Speaker 6: in that locker room, being able to be in those
Speaker 6: meetings while I was gone, I was still able to
Speaker 6: stay in tune and tact with the team and understand
Speaker 6: and they knew when I came back to it was
Speaker 6: up from there, because like I said, it was always
Speaker 6: the greatest good of the team that we were always
Speaker 6: striving to be.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Javell in Dwight, they've been very outspoken about
Speaker 2: that team being broken up too soon.
Speaker 4: What was your take on that.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Lakers ultimately moved on too soon
Speaker 2: or where y'all I could have done more? Or do
Speaker 2: you think that's just what it was. That team was
Speaker 2: gonna win the championship and it kind of capped there.
Speaker 6: Nah, I definitely don't think a cap there again, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, you win a championship, you feel like you
Speaker 6: have the blueprint and you got to run it back
Speaker 6: to see if anybody has figured out before you, did,
Speaker 6: you know, crack the code. So I feel like we
Speaker 6: were a really deep team like they we're able to
Speaker 6: just we've been through seven game series, you know, we've
Speaker 6: been battle testing, so you know, I think we already
Speaker 6: hit the button next year and figure out how to
Speaker 6: win it again.
Speaker 1: Like everybody's feeling good, bron still playing now.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: A was coming off one of the best season. Like
Speaker 6: I said, that conference going back into the bubble, you
Speaker 6: have the same type.
Speaker 1: Of guys going to war with you.
Speaker 6: You know, it's just a psychological thing that you understand
Speaker 6: versus a couple of guys ain't here and a.
Speaker 3: Lot of teams.
Speaker 6: You know, that's what it comes to the front office
Speaker 6: where they come to players like you feel like you
Speaker 6: can't plug and play with certain guys. But that year,
Speaker 6: nobody was breaking the bank, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 6: I don't know what it was, but you know it
Speaker 6: is maybe either there they got me another two years.
Speaker 6: So hey, I wasn't even gonna play out of it.
Speaker 3: You mentioned Lebron still playing.
Speaker 5: Just talk about you know, you play with him twice,
Speaker 5: you know in your career, Like what has impressed you
Speaker 5: the most about him?
Speaker 3: And especially with what he's doing now.
Speaker 6: Man, I told you I've never seen nobody take care
Speaker 6: of about it like him, rest and diet. I mean
Speaker 6: the little cliche is things like all the things he does,
Speaker 6: I mean, the way he lifts, the way he goes
Speaker 6: at the weight room. Uh, he attacks the weight room,
Speaker 6: you know, the way he taxes his own court off
Speaker 6: the court, workouts like he's a professional. And again if
Speaker 6: you put spend that type of money on your body
Speaker 6: and you you know, and when no one's looking and
Speaker 6: no one's watching and you're still doing the right thing.
Speaker 6: You know, you're able to stay and have a longevy
Speaker 6: a career like it's having not dropping the four triple
Speaker 6: dos in a row, sings like. I mean, obviously he's
Speaker 6: argued the greatest player of all time. So for me,
Speaker 6: I just seen it every day in this region, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. He was very disciplined, and he
Speaker 6: goes over and beyond what you know, the average or
Speaker 6: even some of the great NBA players have done that.
Speaker 5: I've seen not a that The skill, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, the knowledge you know, and and the know how,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, just makes him super upper echealon,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's that discipline that take
Speaker 5: you to a whole other level.
Speaker 6: Because he's young guys coming in, more athletic, more explosive,
Speaker 6: and he's still able to manipulate the game, get to
Speaker 6: his spots, and I feel like he's smart. Everybody obviously
Speaker 6: him and Steff doing the same thing, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. Draymond's doing the same thing.
Speaker 5: So the game comes and then I know, you probably
Speaker 5: yourself on defense, you know what I mean, My boy Draymond,
Speaker 5: I'm campaigning for him for defensive right, you don't let
Speaker 5: everybody know that's my dog.
Speaker 3: I'm rocket with him.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: For your criteria of Defensive Player of the Year, what
Speaker 5: would the main qualifications be to be considered for that accolade.
Speaker 6: I'm starting to like analytics, but I'm a I'm a
Speaker 6: game watcher as well, you know, I mean, I'm a
Speaker 6: field guy. So a lot of things coming to play obviously,
Speaker 6: justtical categories. Bus miners on the floor, being able to
Speaker 6: switch one through five, how you affect the ball, maybe
Speaker 6: not even you know, being around the ball, he's still affecting.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's your communication. There's a lot of factors
Speaker 6: for me. So there's not a lot of guys that.
Speaker 1: Can do that. I mean, you got to be able
Speaker 1: to play in the playoffs.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, he's got to be able to have an
Speaker 6: impact on the game without even scoring. And that's why
Speaker 6: I think a guy like myself got like what Draymond does.
Speaker 6: Put you up there for defense.
Speaker 5: Fens of the Year always argue about the m v P,
Speaker 5: and the m v P is just an offensive category,
Speaker 5: and Defensive Player of the Year never gets help with
Speaker 5: the same weighted value as.
Speaker 4: An m v P.
Speaker 3: I wanted to get your take on that too.
Speaker 6: Ye that a lot of it's always it's always usually
Speaker 6: big different protectors. But I mean there's so many different ways.
Speaker 6: And it's not just because how many times are you
Speaker 6: giving up points when you gambling?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So it's just like skills can be. You can be
Speaker 6: on the worst team in the league, the league team
Speaker 6: and steels you make all first team all defense, but
Speaker 6: you probably get the probably give to lead the league
Speaker 6: and back doors or gamble points going off a gamble.
Speaker 1: So it just depends on how you look at it,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't. It's a different factor
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: You know, speaking of you playing with the Celtics playing
Speaker 2: with the Lakers.
Speaker 4: One part of.
Speaker 2: Your career that I'm even I'm extremely interested in hearing about.
Speaker 2: It's your years with the Pelicans or a year with
Speaker 2: the Pelicans where you have a d playing at m
Speaker 2: VP level. You had the markets playing at top five
Speaker 2: MVP level that shot you. You you Drew, y'all got
Speaker 2: Drew right.
Speaker 1: We had Drew playing right.
Speaker 2: You getting twenty assists, some nice twenty two assists, twenty
Speaker 2: four assists and why should you do that?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you?
Speaker 6: After that team though, and of course y'all knocked us off.
Speaker 6: But that the beginning of that year. Alvin Gentry was
Speaker 6: the coach, Chris Finn was the office coordinator. And at
Speaker 6: first it didn't work. Mecuz drew eighty on the court
Speaker 6: didn't work. I needed a ball, They needed a ball
Speaker 6: in a certain sense.
Speaker 1: So I was.
Speaker 6: I was on the bench for a while, and then
Speaker 6: once Cuz got hurt, that's when I got inserted. But
Speaker 6: before then, what I loved doing my job was I
Speaker 6: wasn't playing. So I say, okay, cool, I had Cuss eighty,
Speaker 6: which is two guys I love playing with. Like I said,
Speaker 6: I was giving everything that I got called down to
Speaker 6: me from all the great vests part sports. Then I
Speaker 6: had one of my favorite teams all the time, j.
Speaker 1: You Holley on the court.
Speaker 6: So I was said, okay, I took a back seat,
Speaker 6: roll like, let me try to coach this. So instead
Speaker 6: of Cuz in eighty, because at first they both trying
Speaker 6: to score fifty, I'm like, Cuz, nip late the game
Speaker 6: by scoring twenty five.
Speaker 1: Let eighty get the fifty.
Speaker 6: You go for twenty twenty and twenty you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, Like go crazy to a different way both
Speaker 6: y'all getting fifty won't allow us to win games because
Speaker 6: now y'all fight, you could come to the facilitator.
Speaker 1: Now, he used to run the delay. He's running stuff
Speaker 1: out of elbow. Action making, playmaking, that's what he was.
Speaker 1: That's what he was really good at. That particular.
Speaker 6: He's gonna have a big slowgout and a he's gonna
Speaker 6: have the agile wings. So it's like then he had
Speaker 6: Drew Hardy. So them learning how to play three men
Speaker 6: together manipulated the game and we was on a roll.
Speaker 6: He got hurt towards towards Achilles, and that's when I
Speaker 6: got inserted.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool with my weapons.
Speaker 6: So I took her of while I took you know,
Speaker 6: heat of Nico meritage e Troemore.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, guys made me better than shot makers.
Speaker 6: A d love threat Drew Halliday, the pistol action that
Speaker 6: people run me and Drew used to kill that action.
Speaker 6: The small small guy pick up step up. He man
Speaker 6: were playing pick up the first couple of days and
Speaker 6: in it was he stepped up. I'm like, what the
Speaker 6: hell is this?
Speaker 1: I think he came. I forgot where he got it from.
Speaker 1: But it was.
Speaker 6: It might have been y'all, but he got it and
Speaker 6: perspected it. It was, I mean, and I was able
Speaker 6: to I was able to hit that past eat. So
Speaker 6: it was like the stuff like that. I said that
Speaker 6: that team chemistry where he was able to go into
Speaker 6: Portland with that mindset. You know, even before the playoffs started,
Speaker 6: you and I like who you want? It was either
Speaker 6: between Damon c j or James and Chris Paul and we,
Speaker 6: like I said, it was either way, Like we didn't
Speaker 6: really care what the smoke was, but it was smoke
Speaker 6: either way.
Speaker 1: We went.
Speaker 6: Then we went to Portland, took their business, and then
Speaker 6: we ran into them boys and we just didn't having them. Man,
Speaker 6: didn't having that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the.
Speaker 4: Marcus out, it would have been different.
Speaker 6: I mean, I got I got no no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: y'all listen, I'm gonna tell you this, the true story.
Speaker 6: Never told the story. So I'm trying to get the
Speaker 6: first player of the game. I'm trying to get Ady
Speaker 6: to bow. You trying to get him to bow.
Speaker 1: You set the drip didn't happen. Something happened. You ended
Speaker 1: up bowing us, and I'm just like, fuck, they hit that.
Speaker 1: That was the first tri it was on and like
Speaker 1: I said this one and so whatever, But yeah, that was
Speaker 1: I was trying to get him to get you from
Speaker 1: the jump.
Speaker 6: But if I had, because when he would have sure
Speaker 6: cod with really you know what I mean, that's that's
Speaker 6: what I feel like. We might have got who's big
Speaker 6: than y'all said trying. I'm trying to go through Katie.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to go through everybody front line. Of course
Speaker 6: they got to deal with the boys running around, But
Speaker 6: we can get yall to him out of there, see
Speaker 6: y'all anchor, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: You know it's crazy.
Speaker 2: If a d would have did that, they probably would
Speaker 2: have caught me so far off gone, like I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been expected.
Speaker 3: Don't walk you up, He don't walk him up.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here right.
Speaker 2: Now trying to think how.
Speaker 4: I don't know how I would be.
Speaker 3: You would have got him back, you better, he might.
Speaker 6: He might might have stole off on him and now
Speaker 6: you got three games and were on the next round.
Speaker 4: Would have definitely.
Speaker 3: Got him back.
Speaker 5: He would have slammed him something, he was like, probably
Speaker 5: want reacted.
Speaker 4: Right in the movement. Who knows what I would I
Speaker 4: don't know what I would man, thank you a do.
Speaker 2: Y'all appreciate you, brother man. And you know, obviously your career,
Speaker 2: we've talked about that. I think that's beautiful. But my nephew,
Speaker 2: he's thirteen, TJ Walton, Trive traf son, he's fourteen now,
Speaker 2: well he's about to turn fourteen a couple of days.
Speaker 2: TJ and your son they right around the same age.
Speaker 2: So I followed the scene him like TJ been training
Speaker 2: with me since he was like seven or eight years old.
Speaker 2: Like okay, so I'm I'm well invested, like that's that's
Speaker 2: my nephew. I'm like like Trave allows me to be
Speaker 2: like a second father to him, Like that's not close
Speaker 2: to me. And travel and Trave went overseas as soon
Speaker 2: as TJ was born. So when TJ was born and
Speaker 2: he was like literally baby Trave's wife like if she
Speaker 2: needed somebody to do something, TJ, I go, I'll do
Speaker 2: teach like travels overseas, So our relationship is different. I
Speaker 2: pay attention to the scene. Your young fella, he got
Speaker 2: some game. What is it like going through this journey
Speaker 2: with him?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: From your perspective of how you grew up, was just
Speaker 2: going to the park going here, going in hooping and
Speaker 2: now I always talk about nowadays your son is actually
Speaker 2: the prototypical NBA player. It's an NBA player son. Or
Speaker 2: like the days of a Rajon Rondo coming from Louisville
Speaker 2: or Baron Davis coming from Inglewood or Draymond Green coming
Speaker 2: from Saginaw.
Speaker 4: Michigan, those days are over.
Speaker 2: That kid now who had a dream to make it out,
Speaker 2: he's way too far behind because Rajon Rondo son has
Speaker 2: been getting the training since he was eight years old,
Speaker 2: seven years old.
Speaker 4: By his dad.
Speaker 2: He know what to do with the body, he know
Speaker 2: what to do with the nutrition. So the kid in
Speaker 2: the hood at Saginaw or Louisville or they so far
Speaker 2: behind now that they can't make it anymore.
Speaker 4: What do you make of just being on this journey
Speaker 4: with him? What's it? What's it like training with him?
Speaker 4: And just as you see it from your vantaged point.
Speaker 6: Down, see what I pride myself on even with my
Speaker 6: foundation work, you know what I mean? Like I feel
Speaker 6: like when I'm from the city, like we don't have
Speaker 6: a lot of big time celebrities.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of famous people.
Speaker 6: So for me, my team, may you teams, I got
Speaker 6: some of them kids, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 6: I feel like I want kids my program to use
Speaker 6: me as a resource to get to where they want
Speaker 6: to be. I mean, it's being able to be exposed
Speaker 6: to certain things. While I take them on trips, I
Speaker 6: might take them in the locker room a couple years
Speaker 6: of back into them, the downs may locker room, you know,
Speaker 6: just the dream big and.
Speaker 1: My son has these has these things. So for me,
Speaker 1: it's trying.
Speaker 6: It's hard to try to keep them humble and understand,
Speaker 6: like you know, what it takes to work and what
Speaker 6: it takes to get to this level that isn't just
Speaker 6: given to you bigger obstacles. And for him, like you said,
Speaker 6: the way we grew up was different. I was able
Speaker 6: to play basketball nine stopped up the right. He has
Speaker 6: to pretty much schedule his workouts when he plays because
Speaker 6: you can't just you know nowadays since COVID kids, you
Speaker 6: can't go down.
Speaker 1: The street and play basketball.
Speaker 6: So you got to kind of organize for them to
Speaker 6: play this random pick up and that's what we've done
Speaker 6: the last couple of months. But again, like you said,
Speaker 6: I've have resources to do that like other kids don't.
Speaker 6: So the kids that aren't being able to play basketball
Speaker 6: with just some random kids at that age. They don't
Speaker 6: how do they get better or how they judge where
Speaker 6: they're going to be. And then obviously it takes so
Speaker 6: long to get to the goal. But with him, we
Speaker 6: just worked.
Speaker 1: Man. Like I said, I try to teach him that
Speaker 1: different responsibilities, not on and off the court. He's a
Speaker 1: great student, and I said, just you know value, I
Speaker 1: understand and respect each opponent. You know, you got a
Speaker 1: big targeting back. But what I love to do is
Speaker 1: I love the targets. You know.
Speaker 6: I went by gun for the targets. And again people's
Speaker 6: on the gun for him. But you put the work in,
Speaker 6: you chank, you can't cheat the game. And he's learning that.
Speaker 1: He's young.
Speaker 6: I don't want him to said, he's playing football too,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. I wanted to play all
Speaker 6: different sports because you don't. I don't want him to
Speaker 6: burn out. And I thought, again, I was maybe fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 1: I thought I was going pro on football, and then
Speaker 1: I switched over, had a relationship my high school basketball coach,
Speaker 1: and then I started love love for that, and then
Speaker 1: that's why I went that.
Speaker 6: So he's pretty good on a couple different sports. So
Speaker 6: I don't want to box himself end. But if you
Speaker 6: want to play basketball, cool. I wasn't even learning to
Speaker 6: man's just money, that's it.
Speaker 5: My son ten and he played football. You know, I've
Speaker 5: been trying to crack the cold with him, you know,
Speaker 5: in basketball. But I think right now, you know, at
Speaker 5: ten years old, he's like, all right, football is my thing,
Speaker 5: and I'm just trying to like, hey, bro, all the.
Speaker 3: Great football players play basketball, right Like as.
Speaker 5: A dad, you know, uh, the pushback earlier, like how
Speaker 5: do you you know, like, how do you set them
Speaker 5: up for.
Speaker 3: For that structure for basketball? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: I feel like football easy because he just throw them
Speaker 5: out there. They're gonna figure it out. But basketball is different,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: Man, it's definitely different.
Speaker 6: Timbler just kind of just watching the games with him,
Speaker 6: seeming we like, you never I never forced him. He
Speaker 6: started off swimming, you know, he did piano, so just
Speaker 6: giving him different things and did tennis, so we kind
Speaker 6: of just you know, you know, thank god we have
Speaker 6: these resources that I was able to expose him to
Speaker 6: different things and he wanted to possibly play and obviously
Speaker 6: come to the games with me being in the bubble
Speaker 6: that kind of just persuade them to kind of like, okay,
Speaker 6: getting the hangout in locker room and see Lebron, you know,
Speaker 6: talk to certain guys from the game.
Speaker 1: So I feel like he just kind of naturally fell
Speaker 1: in love with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah he's nice though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we got we got so he got.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: Junior is nice. Mante Ellens Jr. Is nice too, all
Speaker 5: the juniors, junior juniors.
Speaker 4: The next up. That's the next up.
Speaker 2: Man, It's very Do you ever as someone with it
Speaker 2: with a junior? I go back and forth sometimes like
Speaker 2: man ship, I love that he's DJ, like I love
Speaker 2: like and you know that he go by DJ, don't
Speaker 2: really go by Draymond, right, But I love that he's
Speaker 2: a junior. But sometimes I go back and forth like, damn,
Speaker 2: did I do him with this service? Do you ever
Speaker 2: have those up to like, man, my son of junior?
Speaker 1: I do I do from time to time. I I
Speaker 1: love it. I wouldn't change it. But we call him Pierre.
Speaker 6: You know, he kind of you know, he wants to
Speaker 6: have his own identity, which I completely understand. He goes
Speaker 6: that Peel Pierre, so you know, I let him, you know,
Speaker 6: do his own thing. I just I just let him
Speaker 6: get an Instagram, so I let him pick his own name.
Speaker 1: Let's put you on there.
Speaker 4: So what's his name?
Speaker 1: It's still I give it. I can't give it out yet, perfect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't give it out off. Don't give it out off.
Speaker 6: He flooded, trying to flood man, trying to flood. No,
Speaker 6: soon soon though, soon we gonna flood it. But yes,
Speaker 6: I ain't got much left. But I must mention something,
Speaker 6: something I heard over the summer. You know, I got
Speaker 6: bit married in August fourteen, two thousand.
Speaker 4: I know you. I know you just got congratulations. Shout
Speaker 4: off to Diane Valentine.
Speaker 1: Shout out to miss Valentine.
Speaker 6: Yes, do it, I tell you, listen here, Thank you Valentine, y'all.
Speaker 1: And then we went. You know, we had to stay
Speaker 1: without you know, so she.
Speaker 4: Told me, she said, Draymond.
Speaker 2: By the way I saw her, I was after private
Speaker 2: suite about to fly to l A.
Speaker 4: I saw her.
Speaker 2: Landing back a week after your wedding, and she like,
Speaker 2: we just got back. I was like, y'all just got back.
Speaker 2: I saw everybody over at the wedding week ago. She like, yeah, Raymond,
Speaker 2: like you gotta close this stuff out. You gotta do this,
Speaker 2: you gotta do that. She was like, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell you, Draymon ray John made sure y'all didn't out
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Nah. She she's still send to me. I said, lady, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was we had the time. We had a mother
Speaker 1: in time. Yo, I'm already knowing.
Speaker 4: I saw videos from y'all wedding, which was like.
Speaker 1: Yo, that way that looked lint and y'all sat the
Speaker 1: tone though, I was.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh that listen, she's amazing ya you know,
Speaker 6: an amazing woman.
Speaker 1: A couple of my teammates and be like, who did is?
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right now.
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is, though she's so great I managing
Speaker 2: the budget.
Speaker 4: Who killed me was my wife?
Speaker 1: That part that like Diana, she.
Speaker 2: Keep coming back to me looking like like she keep
Speaker 2: coming back to me with this look on her face.
Speaker 4: Like and she keep coming back with this look.
Speaker 2: And the whole time is hazel and hazes she killing
Speaker 2: me and Diane she she like Draymond. I know I
Speaker 2: told you the bunchet is, but I know you said
Speaker 2: the bunch of this this and we said we work
Speaker 2: in it. But she wanted to do this and she wanted,
Speaker 2: but the things were so great, Bro, I couldn't say no.
Speaker 1: You say no one time?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: I ain't never doing ever like my wife. I mean
Speaker 1: they they like this. It's like great mental for like
Speaker 1: I said, she's been there, done it all like great
Speaker 1: lady Great. I mean she she's a Marcia Great.
Speaker 2: Hey, fellas, listen, if you'all out there getting married, I
Speaker 2: know something of y'all are.
Speaker 4: If you want to.
Speaker 2: See this video, if you want to see the video
Speaker 2: or some pictures of a wedding, we got two of
Speaker 2: them for y'all to.
Speaker 1: See what we vouch you.
Speaker 2: And I've been to some weddings that are with some
Speaker 2: of the highest name uh wedding planners, and man, the
Speaker 2: weddings look like nothing right and they're not that.
Speaker 3: Fun taste, Bro, you gotta taste.
Speaker 6: So I'm telling y'all young fellas Netflix, Man, it was right.
Speaker 5: And looking back on it, yeah, a movie.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: If you want to have a good time and a
Speaker 2: great looking weather and the memory for a lifetime, if
Speaker 2: you want your stuff to be playing and bleep, they don't.
Speaker 4: Mess with Diana.
Speaker 2: Because your stuff gonna look right, it's gonna feel right.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be right. If you out there just looking
Speaker 4: for the big name, go.
Speaker 5: Stop hanging with Rinch people because their food be nasty.
Speaker 5: That's why I have to cut my Rinch friends off.
Speaker 5: That food be nasty as hell, right though you already
Speaker 5: like so olives and ship man, give me some food, Homer.
Speaker 4: Hey, I got one more before we get out of here.
Speaker 2: When you look at the game of where it is
Speaker 2: now and like, you know, the trend of where it's
Speaker 2: going as opposed to where it was when you first
Speaker 2: came in and say your first five to seven years
Speaker 2: in the league, the overall IQ of basketball, do you
Speaker 2: see the IQ back then being higher or the IQ
Speaker 2: where it.
Speaker 4: Is today with gods today being hired.
Speaker 1: That's a great question. You know, you you're still in it.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been out three years.
Speaker 6: But you know it hasn't been too long. But at
Speaker 6: the same time, I feel like maybe guys back then,
Speaker 6: uh yeah, focused more, I guess, you know, a lot
Speaker 6: more distractions now off the court, you know, social media,
Speaker 6: Like you know, back then it wasn't we didn't have
Speaker 6: social media, so we're kind of pretty much more locked
Speaker 6: in the sense. So even like I said, certain teams
Speaker 6: for me, like after we lost or not we lost,
Speaker 6: but we went with the Celtics. After every game we
Speaker 6: be in the training room would be you know, Ray,
Speaker 6: the Big Three, myself and a couple of guys, always
Speaker 6: talking game plan, strategy and how we lost, why we lost,
Speaker 6: while we won, why we want I mean type of
Speaker 6: vice versa. So that was just kind of the thing
Speaker 6: like and get carried over like a lot of different
Speaker 6: teams I played for, but that was the one that
Speaker 6: stood out the most, like we were always intact and
Speaker 6: we were always communicating and figuring out right away.
Speaker 1: How we could have made a justice throughout the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think that that is all a byproduct
Speaker 2: of how many adults was in the room then and
Speaker 2: how many young guys Like there's no vets.
Speaker 6: Now you know that's what it is. And then it
Speaker 6: was important point in my career. I think maybe you're
Speaker 6: like maybe twelve or ten eleven for me and all
Speaker 6: if all my homes were gone, it was like down
Speaker 6: the lead, I want the vests no more, like I said,
Speaker 6: they don't. They don't appreciate, you know, them teaching me
Speaker 6: how to be a man, how to do you know
Speaker 6: had a conductment's own off the court, not this to
Speaker 6: be yes man.
Speaker 1: So for me, that was a big wing up call
Speaker 1: for me, like they ain't playing.
Speaker 6: With y'all y'all old fellas because they they try to
Speaker 6: get you outed so they can have people. To me,
Speaker 6: I thought they could control or people that communicate more
Speaker 6: to just say yes everything they tell them what to
Speaker 6: do versus how to brow what the what to do
Speaker 6: the right things and win to insert this, so when
Speaker 6: to ask questions.
Speaker 1: So it was just, uh, you know, my difference.
Speaker 6: Of opinion and thinking that that wasn't you know, the
Speaker 6: idea they should have kept me in the locker room.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: I felt like they they pushed the vets out for
Speaker 5: younger coaches that was the same age, thinking that they
Speaker 5: can do the same thing. But it's just a difference
Speaker 5: and a level of respect. When somebody get out there
Speaker 5: and can really get down. People see you play in
Speaker 5: the finals, people see you playing the playoffs. You got legacy,
Speaker 5: and so when you replace that with coaching, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, you don't get the sauces, you don't
Speaker 5: get the ism, and you don't get the growth.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Let me on my thing, not to cut you off
Speaker 6: but that's what to me, like I speak for. It's
Speaker 6: what Sam Pacelle came in for, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: like he was playing t Lou came in like those
Speaker 6: guys are the bridge connected. Is the guy that would
Speaker 6: ever teach me? Okay, this is cool to think, cool
Speaker 6: to kind of what I told you you did for me.
Speaker 6: So like those point guards to step on Maberry's like
Speaker 6: they brought those bets in for me to show me
Speaker 6: the ropes and I took it, like I said, a
Speaker 6: lot of from everybody, and they was in my I
Speaker 6: mean they were giving me the game. Let me get
Speaker 6: all of them about with all my teammates and I said,
Speaker 6: Eddie House posy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I got all the game and
Speaker 1: I just try to soak it up.
Speaker 4: That's what's up, Many, That's that's.
Speaker 5: A shout out to you, man, Hall of Famer. Point
Speaker 5: You wanted the realists. You wanted the realists to do it.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna be out l a song, get on
Speaker 1: the show, live with it.
Speaker 4: Man, no doubt.
Speaker 2: That's love man, Basketball savant champions, much love respect man.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you brother, Stay healthy, my dog, Yes, sir, thank you, Bro.
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 1: I'm almost done.
Speaker 2: Was a player, bro already Bro, I got you go take.
Speaker 3: Dark Job too.
Speaker 6: I'm getting the game from man, my guy.
Speaker 1: The volume