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Speaker 2: The Gang's all here, Manzi's here, Chris is here, Bo

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Speaker 2: is here, and fortunately for us riches here as well. Now, Rich,

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Speaker 2: I we actually did a whole segment last Sunday talking

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Speaker 2: about getting back to our four hour countdown to this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: Apparently didn't hear that.

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Speaker 2: I understand, like you fully aware that we are back

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Speaker 2: to our four hour monstrosity, which of course will eventually

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Speaker 2: morph into red Zone Radio once we get to the

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Speaker 2: start of the NFL regular season.

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Speaker 3: Were you fully aware of that when you woke up

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Speaker 3: this morning?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I woke up planning and beyond the air at ten am.

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Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, just to double check

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Speaker 1: that I'm not showing up to work an hour early, yeah,

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Speaker 1: texted Bo about it because as much as I like.

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Speaker 4: You, Steve Yes, and you know I do like you

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Speaker 4: quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: Yes, quite deea.

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Speaker 1: I you know what our four hours, it's it's quite enough.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't need the extra hour. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I was talking with Adam Kaplan and you know,

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Speaker 2: we start digging into these teams and you you know,

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Speaker 2: we do like a one segment, fifteen minute segment with

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Speaker 2: Adam and it's it quickly got to the point where

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I could literally do at this

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Speaker 2: point of the year, like four hours on one team

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Speaker 2: at a time.

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Speaker 3: Like there's so much to talk about.

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Speaker 2: In these weeks leading up to the start of the

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Speaker 2: NFL regular season.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing. There's just not enough time.

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Speaker 2: And so here we are as we are still a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks away. Week two this week of the

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Speaker 2: NFL preseason, then we have Week three, and then we

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Speaker 2: have the unfortunate bye week before.

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Speaker 3: We actually get to the start of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: But we're going to be covering so much of what's

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Speaker 2: going on in terms of the NFL season coming up,

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Speaker 2: but rich we also have to address next week Week zero,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the college football season. It's going to

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Speaker 2: kick off with Florida State and Georgia Tech. They're going

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Speaker 2: to be in Dublin, Ireland. This is how did Dublin

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Speaker 2: become a main hub for an annual college football game.

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Speaker 2: I get it. Back in the day, they would have

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame, the Fighting Irish in Dublin.

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Speaker 3: Georgia Tech and Florida State in Dublin. Am I just

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Speaker 3: seen something.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, look, it's weird how traditions become traditions, right.

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame made sense? Right? Yeah, the Fighting Irish, I

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Speaker 3: get it.

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Speaker 1: But if you read back on I think the way

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Speaker 1: we celebrate, for example, holidays in America, because we are

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Speaker 1: such a melting pot, is an interesting history. And I

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Speaker 1: mean anybody who's interested in history should go back and

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Speaker 1: research the reasons why we do certain things at certain

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Speaker 4: They're all, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, tied to these strange, like you know, mystic traditions

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Speaker 1: have has led us down this path where certain holidays

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Speaker 1: our American way. And I think that's what's happened here

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Speaker 4: Have some like that we're all of a sudden, like.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are legitimate college football fans in Ireland now,

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Speaker 1: like those games go bonkers over there. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: because Notre Dame going back. I mean they're called the

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Speaker 4: It makes sense, and here we are. It's just I

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not usually all for, you know, all these

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Speaker 1: us every single weekend, I don't mind if you send

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Speaker 4: I kind of like it as a matter of fact.

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Speaker 2: So I was listening to our dear friend Jonas Knox

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Speaker 2: the other day on his Saturday show, and he was

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Speaker 2: alarmed as we get ready for the college football season

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Speaker 2: and guy that there's already buzz about expanding the new

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Speaker 2: twelve school pl playoff, even sort of an idea of

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Speaker 2: alternative for group of five conference teams that are not

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Speaker 2: own And he's like, where did this come from? And

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Speaker 2: I'm like yelling at the radio. Rich Harberger.

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Speaker 3: Rich Harberger is the one that did this. Rich has

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Speaker 3: been screaming.

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Speaker 2: That, yeah, twelve is better than four, but it's not

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Speaker 2: as good as sixty four. Like it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, yeah, twelve is better than four,

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Speaker 2: but how about sixty four. Let's let's let's mimic what

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Speaker 2: we got with the college basketball playoff. So for those

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Speaker 2: are the Barbers period, Yes, yes, So Jone's going to berzerk,

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Speaker 2: like where does this come from? Why is this out there?

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Speaker 2: And I said, have you been listening to Rich for years?

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Speaker 1: For years?

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Speaker 2: For years, He's been talking about this, even before we

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Speaker 2: got to the twelve school playoffs. So for those listening

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Speaker 2: a full blown expansion too, a mammoth college football playoff,

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Speaker 2: explain your madness and why this would be a huge

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Speaker 2: benefit moving forward for college football, Well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not just for the fans, but for the

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Speaker 1: players too. I mean, look at this point, in order

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Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl, certain teams with a wildcard round,

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Speaker 1: divisional round, with the conference round and the Super Bowl itself,

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Speaker 1: you're playing twenty one games to get there. In college football,

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Speaker 1: in order to win a championship, right now, it's so

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Speaker 1: much fewer than that.

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Speaker 4: I look at it this way.

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Speaker 1: If you just increase the number of games it took

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Speaker 1: at eighteen total, does anybody turn a nose up at that,

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Speaker 1: like saying, like, oh my gosh, due, we're putting way

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Speaker 1: too much on these players anymore, especially now with name,

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Speaker 1: image and likeness and these college athletes now being paid

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Speaker 1: because they are professional athletes. Now. Yes, so I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's anything that's limiting us anymore from that standpoint.

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Speaker 1: You know, nobody can come in over the top and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well these guys, I mean, you know, they're asking so

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Speaker 1: well now kind of barely. Yeah, they got to go

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Speaker 4: But let's be very frank with each other.

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Speaker 1: College sports at the profit level where it's you know,

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Speaker 1: talking about specifically football or men's basketball. I mean, these

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Speaker 1: guys are making money hand over fist. If you're a

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Speaker 1: starter on a team, you're you're probably making more money

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Speaker 1: than your parents probably you know, trust me, I would

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Speaker 1: be if I were playing college football still in this

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Speaker 1: what a sixty four team bracket would do would create

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Speaker 1: a situation where if you're one of the lucky teams

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Speaker 1: who won, you know, had an at large bid, or say,

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Speaker 1: if we want to include conference championships anymore, we can

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Speaker 1: if you want to do the auto bid things.

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Speaker 4: So that would increase the number.

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Speaker 1: Of wins you need to get to a championship, a

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Speaker 1: national championship, by one. Right, So we're talking about either

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Speaker 1: eighteen or nineteen games to get yourself into a championship

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Speaker 1: game situation. Sixty four games whittles down to thirty two

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Speaker 1: to sixteen to eight obviously a final four and then

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Speaker 1: a championship game. You've got enough games then to satisfy

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Speaker 1: all the ball sponsor. In fact, you would create more

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Speaker 1: opportunities for sponsorships for the NCAA. You would create more opportunities.

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Speaker 1: So you know, corners of the bracket could be renamed

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Speaker 1: after sponsors. You would have you know, you know the Northeast,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Sunships side of the bracket, the Southeast,

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Speaker 1: you know, shoot, name it IBM side of the bracket.

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Speaker 4: You could it. It would go nuts.

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Speaker 1: College football already makes money and over fist, so this

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Speaker 1: would increase profits exponentially.

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Speaker 4: Then go to the actual players.

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Speaker 1: Now, the players, since they're making so much money in

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Speaker 1: NIL with only twelve games plus maybe a conference championship game,

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Speaker 1: if you increase the number of games day playing and

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Speaker 1: then increase the visibility for all these players. Talk to

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Speaker 1: any college basketball player who's played in a tournament. How

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Speaker 1: much additional money they make if their team goes deep

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Speaker 1: into the tournament. These guys, some of them are striking

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Speaker 1: deals worth tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 1: of dollars. You know, in a single day, they go

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Speaker 1: out there, they hit a buzzer beater in a Sweet

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Speaker 1: sixteen game or an Elite eight game. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: they're getting to check from Chipotle or Taco Bell. Talking

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Speaker 1: about the carnatas I'm telling you, like, this is the

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Speaker 1: way this is heading. Anyways. If anybody has a huge

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Speaker 1: problem with it, I'm sorry, but they they are going

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Speaker 1: to expand the playoffs until it looks something like college basketball,

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Speaker 1: and I am one hundred percent for it. All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, I'm going to give

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Speaker 2: His story is remarkable, but it is a sure sign

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Speaker 2: of where we're heading in the future at college football.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harvin rich Hornberger Fox Sports Sunday, We are Alive

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Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot com studios. How much has

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Speaker 2: college football change? Well, one player's path says it all.

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Speaker 2: So if you looked at the preseason polls that came out,

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Speaker 2: Georgia is number one. Ohio State's number two. Number three

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Speaker 2: new territory there, and they lost their five year starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback note Vo Knicks to the NFL, So how are

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel if you do not know the backstory,

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Speaker 2: and Dylan Gabriel started his collegiate career at Central Florida.

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Speaker 2: His first two years sixty one touchdowns, eleven picks. Three

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Speaker 2: He's played five years of college football. He already has

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Speaker 2: Everyone was given an opportunity to write off a COVID year,

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Speaker 2: So this guy, when you talk about a pro player,

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Speaker 2: history of college football. But this is where so if

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Speaker 2: This is where we're at. The idea of a player

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Speaker 2: back in your day, Richie, sign on at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna play five years at Penn State and then

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he Dan Lanning did did a good job here

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Speaker 1: They kind of play like an SEC team. So against

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Speaker 4: It's terrifying. Dan Lanning is an.

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Speaker 1: Old Nick Saban disciple. What was always important to Alabama

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Speaker 2: If you look right now at these preseason rankings, it

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Speaker 2: So Dabosweeney has made it pretty clear that he doesn't

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Speaker 2: be on the sideline like well Nick Saban who didn't

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that. I'm not at this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, the times have shifted. If you are not

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban, he was doing it right up until right

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Speaker 4: Like Nick Saban knew what was up. He just didn't

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of coaches who do. There's a

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Speaker 1: They love the couch conversations in the living room. They

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Speaker 1: You know what I did. I gave her a couple

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Speaker 1: Anyways, let's move on to the next one.

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Speaker 4: That's now.

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Speaker 1: Listen, some of these guys are are great coaches, and

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Speaker 1: them end up making some of these players good people

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Speaker 1: when I played, going to Penn State, playing for four

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Speaker 4: Those days are gone.

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Speaker 1: because that's all it is. It's just gonna be a

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Speaker 2: Oh, it is completely changed, and it puts obviously a

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Speaker 2: Where are you going? Well, you know, I just think

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Speaker 3: We're still so early in this game. Where are we

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Speaker 2: Plus I want to talk about Alabama football when we return,

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Speaker 2: And Moncey is always bright eyed ready for Sunday, even

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Speaker 3: Is that reaccurate?

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Speaker 7: Yes, even though I was here till like eight thirty,

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Speaker 7: So you're.

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Speaker 2: Here till eight thirty ish, yuh ish, And and then

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Speaker 8: Continued, and then my night continued, right, that's right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We talk about we're doing great, straight from the update

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Speaker 8: Back to the ancher, really right back to the.

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Speaker 2: I mean at this point, like and I you know,

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Speaker 1: We take it over. We refuse to allow anybody to

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Speaker 8: This is correct, This is correct.

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Speaker 7: Let me tell you what's trending to hear A fellas

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Speaker 8: They had Noah Lyles on.

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Speaker 7: So there's a video of this conversation and they're talking

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Speaker 8: Who said I'll race him.

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Speaker 7: So they're talking to Noah Lyles and he says, if

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Speaker 7: he's serious about it and not just talking on the internet,

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Speaker 7: if he's serious about it, you'll see me on the track. Well,

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Speaker 7: Tyreek Hill has reposted this clip and said sign the

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Speaker 7: contract and lock in that fifty yard race. Really, so

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Speaker 7: could we see Tyreek Hill and Noah Lyles race?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I means so good.

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Speaker 4: They should make that a paper.

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Speaker 8: He's just about to say, televise this.

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Speaker 3: Look at it.

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Speaker 2: If you're if you know Ah Lyles, you do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, figure like, what does he have to gain

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Speaker 2: from this? And the answer is money? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: if I'm know Liles, I'm the one that's raised in

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Speaker 2: the bar as high as I can possibly get if

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Speaker 2: I going to race against Tyreek Hill, because if Tyreek

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Speaker 2: Hill beats him, yeah, the world's fastest human would which

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Speaker 2: is what you can get. The moniker if you win

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Speaker 2: the Olympic one meters would not be a good look.

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Speaker 8: No, it would not. It would not.

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Speaker 7: It's it's crazy that if it happens, it's crazy because yes,

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Speaker 7: Noah Lyles has everything to lose here, he got Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 7: but he has.

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Speaker 3: Everything the gain if he can get money in his pocket.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: And he's kind of singing for his supper after the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: talking about how he wants a shoe deal.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't understand why some.

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Speaker 1: Of these athletes in the NBA has to have a

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Speaker 1: shoe deal and they haven't won championship yet, and I need,

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Speaker 1: I need, you know. So, I think he's trying to

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Speaker 1: keep his name out there as much as he can.

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Speaker 7: For sure, it does seem that way. He has a

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Speaker 7: lot to save. I have more to say. In the NFL,

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Speaker 7: multiple reports the Minnesota Vikings are signing five time Pro

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Speaker 7: Bowl quarterbacks ste Von Gilmore to a one year, ten

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Speaker 7: million dollars deal. The NFL preseason does continue today with

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Speaker 7: a double header. It all starts at eight eastern and

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Speaker 7: the Packers taking on the Broncos.

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Speaker 8: Forty nine ers are going to be hosting the Saints.

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Speaker 8: Both of them will start at eight eastern.

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Speaker 7: How about this In the NBA, the seventy six ers

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Speaker 7: are signing gershon Yabuselei. Who's that the guy that was

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Speaker 7: part of the Olympic French team that played very well

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Speaker 7: helped the.

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Speaker 8: French team get to the final.

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Speaker 7: He did play in the NBA before, was Boston Celtic,

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Speaker 7: left in twenty nineteen to join Real Madrid, and now

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Speaker 7: he's back in the NBA. Seventy six er signing him

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Speaker 7: to a two point one million minimum deal. In baseball,

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Speaker 7: one game going on, Mets Marlins. The Mets just hied

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Speaker 7: the game. It's one one bottom of the fifth inning.

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Speaker 7: New York is one game behind Atlanta for the final

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Speaker 7: walkcard spot in the National League, So the Mets trying to.

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Speaker 8: Get a win here. Back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Interesting developments going on right now Major League base Yes,

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Speaker 2: by the way, a little bit later on Job Paul

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Speaker 2: Morosi is going to be joining us, as is jap

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Speaker 2: going to be joining us today is that.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent? Yes, he's going to be joining us.

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Speaker 3: He's at the Little League World Series?

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Speaker 2: Is he not? I believe no, No, is he? So

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Speaker 2: that'll be coming up in our next app we will

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Speaker 2: talk to Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: He is in Williams Sport.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he is in Williamsport.

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Speaker 2: All right, Once again Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger with

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Speaker 2: you here on Fox Sports Sunday. All right, So I

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Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit about Alabama post Nick

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Speaker 2: Saban and I can remember a conversation and this is

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Speaker 2: really old school.

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Speaker 3: That ninety nine point.

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Speaker 2: Nine percent of our listeners will have no clue who

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about, but it illustrates the idea of following

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Speaker 2: an all time legend. There was a great football coach

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Speaker 2: back in the night day named Tommy Prothrow. He was

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Speaker 2: a college coach at Oregon State and also with the

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Speaker 2: UCLA Bruins, and then he went to the NFL coach

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Speaker 2: both the Rams and the Chargers, and at ucl in

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Speaker 2: the fifties had a legendary coach named Red Sanders who

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Speaker 2: dropped out of a heart attack. Pro Throw, who had

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Speaker 2: been an assistant had gone to Oregon State, was immediately

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Speaker 2: off for the job. He's like, no, I'm not replacing

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Speaker 2: Red Sanders. Then years later he replaced George Allen with

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Speaker 2: the Rams, who was widely popular and successful and said

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Speaker 2: it was the biggest mistake of his career. So it

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Speaker 2: brings us to the Alabama situation because when you have

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Speaker 2: Nick Saban retire, how do you possibly replace the guy? Well,

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Speaker 2: I guess the first thing you wanted to do is

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Speaker 2: look at a guy who's got an impressive resume. Kaylind

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Speaker 2: Moore comes from Washington and if you include his years

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Speaker 2: at Sue Falls, where he won three NAIA championships, his

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Speaker 2: career record as a head coach is one o four

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Speaker 2: and twelve. That's his record, one oh four and twelve.

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Speaker 2: So now he goes to Alabama. He has the highest

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Speaker 2: returning Heisman Trophy voting placer from a year ago in

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Speaker 2: Jala Milroe, who, of course made that miraculous fourth quarter pass.

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Speaker 2: I still can't believe that play. We were watching that yep,

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Speaker 2: it was like it was insane. Did that just happen?

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Speaker 2: What was it? Fourth and twenty seven? I I was

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Speaker 2: how how did that play actually happen? So I want

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Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on him, you know, springboarding off

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Speaker 2: of everything that Nick Saban did. The most successful coach

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Speaker 2: in college football history. Sorry Newt Rockney, sorry to Bear Bryant,

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Speaker 2: Joe paterno, Bobby Badham, you can name him. No coach

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Speaker 2: in college football history can even come close to the

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Speaker 2: run that Nick Saban had at Alabama. What do you

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Speaker 2: do if you're du war in terms of trying to

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Speaker 2: maintain whatever it is that Nick Saban did to put

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Speaker 2: Alabama at the top of the heat.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, just keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: His reputation precedes himself if you include you know, some

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Speaker 1: other you know, deeper stats like the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: twelve and two against top two twenty five ranked teams,

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Speaker 1: you know, and many of those wins didn't come while

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Speaker 1: he was at Washington.

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Speaker 4: You know, he also had the stop at Fresno State.

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Speaker 1: I mean this, this type of coach is exactly what

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Speaker 1: Alabama needs. You don't want somebody who's accepting this job

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Speaker 1: who is going to walk in there and rest on

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Speaker 1: laurels or think that they've they've earned it, you know,

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Speaker 1: like or been you know, hey, you know, if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't for Saban, I would have had this job a

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Speaker 1: long time ago, Like I truly feel like Kilen Debora

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Speaker 1: understands how big of a deal this is because of

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Speaker 1: where he earned his come up, and you know, like

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Speaker 1: you pointed out the fact that he was at a

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Speaker 1: program like Shoe Falls and that had to be the

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Speaker 1: proving ground for him as he rose through the ranks

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Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator many of the stops before finally

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Speaker 1: cracking as a head coach at Fresno State completely turned

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Speaker 1: around and this was during my time calling games for

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Speaker 1: San Diego State Aztecs, so I could tell you over

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Speaker 1: those two seasons, completely turned around a completely fledgling Bulldogs

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Speaker 1: football program at the time, and then went off to

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Speaker 1: Washington and continued that success. So he's earned this. This

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Speaker 1: has been the journeyman's road. This is a guy who's

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Speaker 1: had success everywhere he's been. So if you got nice

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Speaker 1: things to say about a guy like Jim Harbaugh, for example,

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Speaker 1: because of what he did at University of San Diego

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Speaker 1: before he went to Stanford, before he went to the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers, before he went to the

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Speaker 1: Michigan Wolverines and just won that recent national championship, you

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Speaker 1: have to say all those same things about Kaylin de

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Speaker 1: Boor because he's done the same thing every program he's touched,

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Speaker 1: he's turned around and made them a winner immediately.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I think that Kleen de Bor was the perfect choice

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Speaker 2: because he does bring something new to the program. A

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Speaker 2: lot of times, what happens when you have a legacy

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Speaker 2: coach is that they'll promote from within, you know, someone

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Speaker 2: that's been sort of a long term assistant, you know,

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Speaker 2: and if you look at that, whether it's college football,

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Speaker 2: college basketball, it usually doesn't end well.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't end well.

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Speaker 2: The best way to go is bring in a new face,

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Speaker 2: someone that you know obviously has experience and is how

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Speaker 2: it approven track record as a winning head coach, but

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Speaker 2: gives a little different look. I think, Debora, some people

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Speaker 2: are talking about is Alabama underrated?

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Speaker 3: Overrated?

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you say they're overrated at number

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Speaker 2: six when you have a veteran quarterback that's been there.

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Speaker 3: And done that. How close did Alabama come to knocking

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Speaker 3: out Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I mean they took them all the way down the wire.

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Speaker 1: They they gave Michigan a run like basically no other

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Speaker 1: team in college football could.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was a winnable game, and Milroe

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Speaker 2: was a big part of that. So I think, you

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Speaker 2: know when I look at some of these preseason rankings

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Speaker 2: and it's always amazing to me, the Associated Press and

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I know we got the college do we

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Speaker 2: have now? We could still have a college for ball

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Speaker 2: playoff pole the way they did in the past.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they will because and Steve, you know why,

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Speaker 1: because when you have ranked verse ranked, you can really promote.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like the fight game. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: both boxing fans. When you have a big fight coming

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Speaker 1: up and it's it's names with belts attached to them,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden it becomes more important. So if

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Speaker 1: you have a two top ten teams facing each other,

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Speaker 1: well of course you're going to continue on with the

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Speaker 1: polling because it helps create promotion. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ap by the way, goes all the way back to

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Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six. With the controversy started in nineteen fifty

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Speaker 2: when they introduced the first pre season poll. It's been

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Speaker 2: around that long, says nineteen fifty. At the time, people

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Speaker 2: are saying, how are you ranking teams before they even

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Speaker 2: play the game. And obviously every year you'll see teams

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Speaker 2: that are ranked very high that by the end of

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Speaker 2: the year are like what like USC last year? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: teams like that. All right, We're gonna on the other side,

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the new look of the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten, which is now the Big eighteen, Big eighteen,

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Speaker 2: yeah eighteen. How do you maintain that moniker of the

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Speaker 2: Big ten when you now have eighteen schools? And how

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Speaker 2: is this going to play out specifically for Washington, Oregon, UCLA,

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Speaker 2: and USC. What will these West Coast schools face joining

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten. We'll break it down. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Orenberger. Here, Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We are live from the tire rack dot Com studios

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Speaker 2: first hour. Today, We've been talking a lot of college

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Speaker 2: football because next week week zero four games on the slate,

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Speaker 2: starting with Florida State, Georgia Tech in Dublin, and then

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Speaker 2: the following Thursday. I mean, you start looking at the schedule,

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Speaker 2: so you go the you know, and then you have

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Speaker 2: the bye week of the NFL, and college football just

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Speaker 2: takes over that week one. You got Thursday Fridays. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's just I cannot wait for this college football season.

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Speaker 2: But I'm a little anxious here, so I'm a use

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Speaker 2: CLA bruin when I went to use CLA way back

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Speaker 2: in the Stone Age. They actually expanded from the Pack

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Speaker 2: A to the Pac ten with the addition of Arizona

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Speaker 2: and Arizona State. During my time at UCLA, your school,

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Speaker 2: Penn State was firmly an independent in those days. Pitt

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Speaker 2: was their main rival to East Coast independent schools. Now

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Speaker 2: Here we are all these years later, and we're neighbors.

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Speaker 3: We're in the Big Ten.

659
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: Now.

660
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: You played in the Big Ten for Penn State, so

661
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to get a little insight from you as

662
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: a Big ten guy. So the idea of Pac twelve

663
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: schools playing Big ten schools in non conference games very commonplace.

664
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: But normally those games are in September. Oh yeah, because

665
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna have the later schedule for the conference.

666
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: But when you go into the Big House or to

667
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: the Horseshoe, or into Madison or any one of these

668
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: stadiums that pack in a one hundred thousand fans, obviously

669
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: your homeschool there in Happy Valley, and now you're arriving

670
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 2: in late October or in the grips of winter in November,

671
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: how much of a shock. Is that going to be

672
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: to the system of these West Coast players, West Coast

673
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: schools that never have experienced that before.

674
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: I think weather is going to play an enormous factor

675
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: in this upcoming football season.

676
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 4: I think a lot.

677
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: I think. I don't think it should be underrated how

678
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: difficult it is to play around the Midwest in the

679
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: late football season. I mean there are games that I

680
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: participated in after the game where doctors were evaluating players

681
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: for frostbite. I mean, that just doesn't happen in the

682
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: Pac twelve.

683
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: No, in the Pac twelve, by the way, and obvious

684
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: I've been to a lot of these Pac twelve stadiums

685
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: are in the football season. You know, you go to

686
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: the Pacific Northwest, it's wet. It's wetting Eugene, it's wet

687
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 2: in Seattle, you know. But when we talk Midwest cold, yeah,

688
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: in mid to late November. As a West Coast school,

689
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: you've never experienced that before.

690
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: No, It's like the wind can cut you in half.

691
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: It's as cold as you've ever felt the conditions and

692
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 1: you have three hours of it now, don't get me wrong. Look,

693
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: there's heaters on the sideline and the benches are heated,

694
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: and you know, you got helmet heaters, and you got

695
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: gloves and capes and all sorts of things to help

696
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: you warm up when you're not on the field. But

697
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: if you're out there on the field, there's nobody who

698
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: can come and warm you up, like you have to

699
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: find a way to fight through the conditions. And on

700
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: a long drive, a TV timeout, an injury timeout, a

701
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: play where there's going to be an official review, all

702
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're stuck out there on the field

703
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: and that ground cuts through your cleats faster than you'd

704
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: ever imagine.

705
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: Let me let me break in for a second here,

706
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: because I want to talk about the pregame psyche. Yeah, yeah,

707
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: so you know you're okay, you got a mid November game.

708
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: You know, let's say it's USC in the Big House

709
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 2: against Michigan and it's twenty degrees and the winds blowing,

710
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: and it is and you're coming out of that tunnel

711
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: and you should be focused on football, and.

712
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: Your thought is the weather you've already lost.

713
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, listen, I've been I've been a part of

714
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: some games that the weather is the reason why we won.

715
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: And I've been a part of games where the weather

716
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: is the reason why we lost. When I was at

717
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: Penn State, and I've told this story before, we played

718
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: at Iowa. It was late in the season in two

719
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. We were an undefeated football team at

720
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: the time. I think we were either eight to oh

721
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: or nine, and we lost at Kinnick Stadium because the

722
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: wind chill was thirteen below.

723
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: Were you aware of the weather as you were out there?

724
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh.

725
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. And in fact, the biggest problem for us was

726
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: at the time Joe Paterno didn't allow heaters on the sideline.

727
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: He called them a distraction. So that's how old school

728
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: he was. This is two thousand and eight.

729
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: We had blankets on the oh, we had capes.

730
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: We had the old school like uh, like you know,

731
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at like basically the

732
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: real to real football film. Oh, super effective. Obviously, it

733
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: was like it was like being in asana. So on

734
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: the field, I lost feeling in my feet. Our receivers

735
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: couldn't catch a cold.

736
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

737
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: It was one of the worst football games we've played,

738
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: just from a standpoint of concentration and ability to complete tasks,

739
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: which obviously we were undefeated. We were completing all season long.

740
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: And it was because of the factors. Now, you take

741
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: cold like that and you expose the team like USC

742
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: or a team like UCLA to those that's a sort

743
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: of environment, or any of these Pacific Northwest teams to

744
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: that sort of environment, and you're going to have some

745
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: results that are going to look pretty lopsided depending on

746
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: how well prepared they are. And you know the thing

747
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: about like preparing for heat in a cold weather area,

748
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: you could do that. You could go into your indoor,

749
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: you could crank the heat all the way up until

750
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: it's eighty degrees inside, and you know, you tell everybody

751
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: to wear sweatshirts during practice. You can mimic the heat

752
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: a little bit. If you're in the Midwest, you can't

753
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: come close to mimicking the cold that practice. If you're

754
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: in southern California.

755
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

756
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: I just believe this.

757
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: Look, there will be an adjustment period for these schools.

758
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question about that. This is

759
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: not like Oklahoma and Texas moving into the SEC. These

760
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: are four West Coast schools moving into the Big Ten.

761
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: It is not just about weather, It's about a style

762
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: of play. This a whole new world for these schools.

763
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: Will they catch up eventually. I'm sure they will, but

764
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: the idea that they're gonna jump in and I know, look,

765
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: Washington is on Rank UCLA's on Rank US. He's barely

766
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: in the top twenty five. But there's Oregon City at

767
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: number three with a six year starting quarterback in Dylan Gabriel.

768
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: A lot of people are jumping on the Oregon manwagon. Eugene,

769
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: are you ready for the Midwest? We'll see. Maybe they are,

770
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: maybe they can adjust immediately. But I just think logic

771
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: tells me there will be a period of adjustment for

772
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: these West Coast schools as they enter into Big ten territory.

773
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: But because rich it is a different game.

774
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt. If the weather changes everything on

775
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: a football field, and we'll see, we'll see again, a

776
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: lot of this is gonna be an acclimation process, all right.

777
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: On the other side, we're gonna jump to the NFL

778
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 2: three weeks away from the start of the regular season.

779
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: What do we learn in the preseason so far?

780
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Speaker 2: We'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: league level. Speaking of San Diego, podrace on fire right now, Rich.

794
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: Two gains back of the Dodgers.

795
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: Dodgers another injury to their pitching staff, Tyler Glass. Now

796
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: going back on the il they had it called Bobby

797
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: Miller up from the Oklahoma City and he got u

798
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Speaker 2: shell ACKed and the Dodgers' lead now just two games

799
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: in that National League West.

800
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been pretty incredible to see how hot the

801
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: Padres got on the other side of the trade deadline.

802
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: And you think to yourself, like, well, okay, so what

803
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: exactly did the Padres do with the trade deadline? And

804
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: they did reinforce their bullpen, and there's no question that

805
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: the bullpen come up clutch since then. But the truth

806
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: is this team, and maybe some of it has to

807
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: do with Mike schiltz leadership as the new manager in

808
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: San Diego, but this team, after the disaster last year,

809
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: Bob Melvin's final year is as a manager after only

810
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: a two year stint, a complete meltdown. If you look

811
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: at this team in any of the preseason polling in

812
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, they were expected to either compete for

813
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: or win a World Series according to the analysts and

814
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: the statisticians who cover this game, and they were underwhelming

815
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: to say the very least, and that's being generous. But

816
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: this season, with injuries, because they've had multiple injuries in

817
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: their starting rotation, with other obstacles, they've found a way

818
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: to cobble together a five hundred season up until the

819
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: All Star break and then on the other side of

820
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: the break, they're the hottest team in baseball. Yeah.

821
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it's always nice to have an ace on

822
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: your staff, and right now, Dylan Cees has become that

823
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: ace for the pod Race. Of course, he had the

824
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: no hitter and he has been pitching well got its

825
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: twelfth victory yesterday, So JP will join us coming up

826
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: here shortly time to talk some NFL right now, rich

827
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: And as I mentioned yesterday, Adam Kaplan joined us and

828
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: then we started talking about teams and everything, and I

829
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: felt like I could literally sit here and talk twenty

830
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: four hours a day about the NFL. I mean it

831
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: just yeah, of course, you know you're at that point

832
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: of the season because we say this time and again

833
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: and it bears fruit.

834
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's the truth. There will be four

835
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: or five teams.

836
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: Who we are not looking at in any way as

837
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: a playoff contender, that by seasons end will be in

838
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: the playoffs. And conversely, there will be teams that we

839
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: are talking full on Super Bowl contenders that by the

840
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: end of the season we'll look back saying what were

841
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: we thinking. I want to talk about a team right

842
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: at the top.

843
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, let's hear this one.

844
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers. All right, all right, So Mike Tomlin,

845
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: who being kend Ohio someday deservedly so, has never had

846
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: a losing season.

847
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: Never.

848
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: The Steelers have had two home games in the preseason.

849
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: They haven't scored yet, like a touchdown.

850
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: The Steelers yesterday.

851
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: Rolled out their two new quarterbacks, Russell Wilson and Justin Fields.

852
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: Each of them was given five series, five series. I mean,

853
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: think about Russell Wilson, right, there's a veteran quarterback five series.

854
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: In those five series, the Steelers scored zero points. He

855
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: threw for a total in those five series forty seven yards.

856
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: He was sacked three times, so his net yards passing

857
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: for those five series was twenty six yards. And then

858
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: Justin Fields comes in, he thes for ninety two yards.

859
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: He also runs for forty two yards. He was only

860
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 2: sacked once and they got a field goal out of it.

861
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: So I know everyone.

862
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 2: Is saying that Russell Wilson is the guy, and I'm

863
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: saying that's an incomplete sentence. Russell Wilson is the guy

864
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: until he's not. And I'll be honest with you. I

865
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: know it's preseason and when they were talking about, you know,

866
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: after the game, well, the offensive line's got to.

867
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: Do a better job. Weren't we doing down this path

868
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: when Russell Wilson.

869
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: Was in his hey Dan Seattle, and he was leading

870
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: the league in sacks year in year out, you know,

871
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: trying to extend plays and the offensive line would get

872
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: the heat instead of the quarterback who's hanging onto the

873
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: ball too long, and then eventually there's only so long

874
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: the wall can hold up before it crumbles. I don't

875
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: buy into it. I think Russell Wilson is finished. Hand

876
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: the ball to Justin Fields. It may be the first

877
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: losing season in Steeler's history, but at least you're moving

878
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 2: forward with Justin Fields. I don't see any reason why

879
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers should waste any time with Russell Wilson as

880
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: their quarterback.

881
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: Look, I'm a fan of Justin Fields. I was a

882
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: little perplexed that they wanted to They wanted to get

883
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, who, let's be honest, there's just as much

884
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: boomer bust potential out of a player like him, very

885
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: similar skill set to Justin Fields. Coming out of college,

886
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, success at the collegiate level. Both of them

887
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: played with a ton of great players at Ohio State

888
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: and USC respectively. Both had one huge year and one

889
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: quieter year as starters of their given teams. And then

890
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: they come into the league and the expectation is Caleb

891
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: William's going to be the cure all because he's the

892
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: first overall draft pick in Justin Fields is yesterday's news.

893
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: I think that they could have spent that draft capital

894
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: building a stronger team around the quarterback position. And if

895
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: it really went sideways, well, you have a team that's

896
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, stock blocked, ready for bear. Maybe go after

897
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks and free agency or trade for one.

898
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: Leverage your future a little bit for the short term gain,

899
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: like some of these teams have recently. I don't really

900
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: understand the calculus on the Bears, but moving on to

901
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, what Justin Fields had was a hard

902
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: time acclimating to the Bears system. I don't know if

903
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: that was because he was catching up to the speed

904
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: of the NFL, but he wasn't a quick diagnoser, and

905
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: he got himself into trouble when he would pat the

906
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: ball in the pocket stand there like a statue, miss

907
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: open receivers who were coming open on route concepts, and

908
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: he just couldn't see him, and so he would extend

909
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: plays that he wasn't supposed to with his legs. He'd

910
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: get himself into trouble, and sometimes it worked out well

911
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: for him because he's such an explosive athlete. He could

912
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: turn those broken plays into big plays, but sometimes he

913
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: got the Bears into serious trouble and he put them

914
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: way behind the eight ball. My expectation for Justin Fields

915
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: is since he's switching environments again, we're gonna see some

916
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: of those growing pains. So I understand the thought process

917
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: of slow playing him into a starting role if he

918
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: truly is the future there, because part of the reason

919
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: why it didn't work out in Chicago is he was overexposed.

920
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he was ready to play, and I

921
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: think that they were forced to start him due to

922
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: circumstance and wasn't the best thing for him.

923
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: I don't see anything the game by Russell Wilson. Now, granted,

924
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: here's the thing, you're not paying him any money. Denver

925
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: has to pick up the bill for Russell Wilson this year.

926
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: But when I watched Russell, first of all, he just

927
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: did not look right in a Steelers uniform.

928
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

929
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes you look at players and when I think about

930
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: Steeler football, I don't think Russell Wilson.

931
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: It's like Montana wearing a Chiefs jirt.

932
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: I mean, well, Montana, Montana got away with it a

933
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: little bit better. I just I associate the Steelers with

934
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: someone different than Russell Wilson. I mean, part of it is,

935
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: when you think about it, they had big band for

936
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: all those years. He fit right like Ben Roethlisberger, just

937
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: sort of. He was a Steelers quarterbacks, big guy, physical guy.

938
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: There's there's something that looked right that's not Russell Wilson

939
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: at all. And then and I'm watching him and he's

940
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: holding on the ball, he's getting sacked, you know, and

941
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: then you and then you got you know, Mike Tomlins

942
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: throwing the offensive line under the bus.

943
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no.

944
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no anyway, I just I don't

945
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: know if Justin Fields is the guy. I just know

946
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: that Russell Wilson is not the guy.

947
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: I I'm not going to sit here and campaign that

948
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is is going to be, you know, the

949
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: next coming of Ben Roethlisberger. Uh in Pittsburgh. That's it.

950
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that they've increased their prospects of winning

951
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: leaps and bounds with signing, the signing or the trading

952
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson. However, I will say this, there's no

953
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: question in my mind that there has been an upgrade

954
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback and even if the trade was just limited

955
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: to Russell Willis as opposed to Wilson and Fields, I

956
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: would still be saying the same thing. Kenny Pickett, Mitch Trubisky,

957
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: and Mason Rudolph were your starting quarterbacks last year in

958
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and they were still able to crack the postseason.

959
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: They're better off with Russell Wilson. Now, I agree. Having

960
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: an understudy as explosive as Justin Fields makes it so

961
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: Russ is going to have a short on ramp this

962
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: season to getting this thing right. If the Steelers start

963
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: off one and two, you know, if the Steelers start

964
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: off two and two, but those two wins were despite

965
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: of shaky performances from their quarterback and he still hasn't

966
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: looked right, I think we could see an early season switch.

967
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked. And also, we know how this

968
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: works when you have a popular backup quarterback, you don't

969
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: actually have a starting quarterback because so many times what

970
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: happens is at the first sign of struggle from your

971
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: starting quarterback that it's the end of the road for

972
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: the starter. The Packers did this with Aaron Rodgers, and

973
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: while Jordan Love wasn't getting as much attention, as some

974
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: of the other more popular or famous backups. There was

975
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: a contingent of Green Bay fans saying we're tired of rogers.

976
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: We want to move on to the future. This happened

977
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: to Alex Smith when he was a starting quarterback and

978
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: a playoff quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. They draft

979
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Fans got a taste of what he was

980
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: able to offer the final game of what ended up

981
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: being the final season for Alex Smith in Kansas City,

982
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: when they went on the road against Denver in a

983
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: meaningless game in Patrick Mahomes in his debut as a

984
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: rookie was incredible. I mean, that was the end of

985
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: the road for Alex Smith. So we've seen this before

986
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be the same in Pittsburgh.

987
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: If Wilson has any early season slip ups, all.

988
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: Right, we have a lot of teams are going to

989
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: get to that are facing quarterback decisions as they get

990
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: ready for the start of the regular season.

991
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: But we're gonna switch gears on the other side.

992
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: Will be joining us from the home of the Little

993
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: League World Series, Williamsport, Pennsylvania, our Fox Sports Radio MLB

994
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: insider John Paul Morosi.

995
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Sunday.

996
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Ritchronberger Here Fox Sports Sunday. We are

997
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: live from theentirerack dot com studios. All right, let's get

998
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: away from a little football right now as we get

999
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: ready for Oh, what's going on right now Williamsport, Pennsylvania

1000
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: the Little League World Series, as well as a stretch

1001
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: run around Major League Baseball or MLB Insider from Fox

1002
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. The one and only John Paul Morosi is

1003
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: joining us right now from Williamsport, and JP, I know

1004
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: you've been a part of the Little League World Series

1005
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: scene for a number of years. Your passion for the

1006
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: sports knows no peer. What is it that you enjoy

1007
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: most about the atmosphere surrounding the Little League World Series?

1008
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 9: Well, Steven resk of that afternoon from williams Sport, it's

1009
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 9: it's the pureness of the joy that people have for

1010
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 9: this game. And yes, that applies to the Little leaguers

1011
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 9: who are here living out their dreams. It applies to

1012
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 9: their families, their parents who are here, and it also

1013
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 9: applies to the New York Yankees and the Detroit Tigers

1014
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 9: and the major leaguers who are here. And I got

1015
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 9: to tell you, it was one of the more stirring

1016
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 9: things I've seen in my career covering baseball to watch

1017
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 9: Aaron Judge walking through the throngs of people and signing

1018
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 9: what had to be two hundred autographs during the course

1019
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 9: of today for fans. And of course he's he's so tall,

1020
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 9: he is he is such a giant among us, and

1021
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 9: he he his walks with such grace among these like

1022
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 9: the very small kids who are asking for their for

1023
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 9: their autograph from their hero. And I just thought it

1024
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 9: was remarkable that Aaron was able to oblige so many

1025
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 9: of those requests, and it just created a very authentic

1026
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 9: and beautiful noise, as I would describe it, from all

1027
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 9: the all the fans and and Aaron, I think is

1028
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 9: the great exemplar of this. But I think in small moments,

1029
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 9: the Tigers and Yankees written large. They all went through

1030
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 9: similar moments and their eyes got big. I spoke with

1031
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 9: Garrett Cole and John Carlos Stanton and they become fans.

1032
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 9: And I think at one point and Aaron Boone shared

1033
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 9: with us as well, the major league players. At this

1034
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 9: time of year, the Little League World Series is almost

1035
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 9: always on during the day in the clubhouse, and so

1036
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 9: major league players will will root for the favorite team

1037
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 9: from their region or from their country, and it becomes

1038
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 9: a real, a real rooting and support dynamic for a

1039
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 9: lot of different players in those moments. So I just

1040
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 9: think it's a really nice showcase of why this game

1041
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 9: is so special.

1042
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: JP. That's awesome to hear, always good to hear that

1043
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: current players are given back to really the roots of

1044
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: where many of them came from. And actually I have

1045
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: a question about that. Do a lot of players come

1046
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: from these little leagues, especially these more successful teams and

1047
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: also kind of, you know, a branch off from that question,

1048
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: do scouts take that seriously? Like are there actual scouts

1049
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: looking at young players and seeing how they project through

1050
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: the years or is having a pedigree of playing at

1051
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: a high level a little league important at all when

1052
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: it comes to determinating which players you're drafting out of

1053
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: high school at college.

1054
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 9: You know, Rich, it's a great question, I would say this.

1055
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 9: The first part is it's very rare, and it's only

1056
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 9: happened a couple times in my years covering this event,

1057
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 9: where someone in this event that had gone on to

1058
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 9: play in the Little League Classic let's say it's very,

1059
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 9: very rare, and I think part of that is a

1060
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 9: couple of reasons. Number One, you got to be lucky

1061
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 9: to advance your way through the tournament. Actually, Juan Soto,

1062
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 9: I just found this out yesterday. Wan Soto got to

1063
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 9: the semi final of the regional tournament that would have

1064
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 9: brought up to Williamsport, but he made the last out

1065
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 9: when he was a kid of the Dominican Republic. So

1066
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 9: Wan Soto made the last out of the semi finals

1067
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 9: and was two wins shy of getting here to Williams Sports.

1068
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 9: Garrett Cole said to me, hey, we got to the

1069
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 9: section le. We didn't get beyond that. So it's even

1070
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 9: for the greatest talents, you're dependent upon the team, which

1071
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 9: is why baseball is such a great team sport. It's

1072
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 9: also true and if I could put on my sports

1073
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 9: parenting hat for a moment, this is a snapshot in time,

1074
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 9: whether or not you're an all star on your team

1075
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 9: when you're twelve, and how good your team is when

1076
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 9: you're twelve. We all know that young athletes develop at

1077
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 9: different rates. Kids grow and hit their growth sports at

1078
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 9: different times, and I think if you look back any

1079
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 9: of us that played little league ball and think about

1080
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 9: the a All Star team as it was called, I

1081
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 9: know in my little league, and you go back and

1082
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 9: you track that forward, you know, who were the kids

1083
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 9: that stayed with baseball? Were those always the best athletes

1084
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 9: when they were eighteen? And in many cases the answer

1085
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 9: is no, in my experience at least, And you think

1086
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 9: back in different moments in time. So it's what I

1087
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 9: stressed even to my own kids, whatever age you're at,

1088
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 9: it just a moment in time. And I think that

1089
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 9: the players that tend to make it to the big

1090
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 9: leagues are really superior athletes all the way around. Maybe

1091
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 9: they've played multiple sports, and especially those that endure and

1092
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 9: end up playing for a long time, like Mookie Betts

1093
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 9: for example, Whereas maybe sometimes the twelve year old All

1094
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 9: Star team is comprised of the kids that just happened

1095
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 9: to hit their growth spurt and train a bunch at

1096
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 9: that particular time, Whereas I think that the greater long

1097
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 9: term success belongs to the better balanced athletes.

1098
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: What is more impressive to you a triple crown season

1099
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: for a hitter or fifty to fifty. I asked that

1100
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: because Osona right now is second in league in batting,

1101
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: second in home runs, leads the league and runs batted

1102
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: in and shoe Aotani's on.

1103
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: Pace right now for forty nine home runs.

1104
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: And forty eight stolen basis, he'll be the sixth player

1105
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: to get to the forty to forty club. How would

1106
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: you size up that two man bat right now in

1107
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: terms of MVP?

1108
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 9: Great question. I think that Ozuna is having an amazing

1109
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 9: year and Otani I think his production and his ability

1110
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 9: to bat lead off is really crucial it also, I

1111
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 9: think to me, you look at what Otani is able

1112
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 9: to do running the bases, I would give the slight

1113
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 9: edge right now to Otani with what he's able to do,

1114
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 9: especially because the fifty to fifty my goodness, what a

1115
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 9: year that would be. And by the way, Otani is

1116
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 9: still somewhere, maybe not quite as prominent as Ozuna, but

1117
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 9: somewhere in that triple Crown conversation too. So I do

1118
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 9: think that they are both really strong MVP candidates, obviously,

1119
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 9: and I believe that we're going to look back, you know,

1120
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 9: when you get to the early days of October. I

1121
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 9: suspect that it's going to be clear which one deserves

1122
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 9: the award. You could argue that both are deserving, and

1123
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 9: I would say that's true, but I think that by

1124
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 9: that time one will be more deserving than the other.

1125
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 9: And honestly, if Otani goes fifty fifties, I think that

1126
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 9: that will represent I think a greater level of achievement,

1127
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 9: especially because of his ability to bat lead off for

1128
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 9: the Dodgers since Mookie Bets's injury.

1129
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: When you look around baseball right now, JP is we're

1130
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to seeing these division races worked

1131
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: out and playoff time. What would you say are the

1132
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: divisions people should concentrate on as the hottest battles in

1133
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: baseball right now?

1134
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 9: Well, I think that the Yankees and Orioles are. It's

1135
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 9: a great race. Obviously, whoever finishes second is almost certain

1136
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 9: to make the playoffs as a wild card, so it

1137
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 9: is a division title worth pursuing and still competing for

1138
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 9: that playoff berth as the number one seed. But I

1139
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 9: think in a lot of ways, the American League Central

1140
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 9: is is maybe more interesting because you're likely looking at

1141
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 9: a division where perhaps one of the teams of those

1142
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 9: three Royals, Twins, Guardians will not make it, So there's

1143
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 9: a little more urgency there. It's a very close race.

1144
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 9: I think actually, though, the most remarkably competitive division that

1145
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 9: we didn't think was going to be that competitive is

1146
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 9: the NL West because what's happened to the Dodgers and

1147
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 9: how it really To be clear here, I'm not gonna

1148
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 9: criticize the Dodgers too much because actually, if you look

1149
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 9: at their performance since the All Star Break, they've been

1150
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 9: they've been one of the better teams in baseball. It's

1151
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 9: just that the Padres and Diamondbacks are playing so well,

1152
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 9: they're still gaining ground on them. So I think that

1153
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 9: to me is what I is what I look at

1154
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 9: and really point out here, is that I'm seeing in

1155
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 9: that situation a Dodgers team that with now some more

1156
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 9: questions about injuries and Freddie Freeman and Tyler Glass now

1157
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 9: in recent days, they now have to really watch them

1158
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 9: their rearview mirror because the Padres and reigning National League

1159
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 9: champion Diamondbacks are closing in.

1160
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: I mek you, this is the Chris Sale for Vaughan

1161
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: Grissom trade, the most one sided trade in the history

1162
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: of Major League Baseball. That is what, my goodness, the

1163
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: Red Sox got by the way Grisam right now hitting

1164
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: one forty eight. Chris Sale was given up for dead

1165
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: seventeen wins over the last five years, all kinds of injuries,

1166
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: and as we sit here right now, he's got the

1167
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: triple crown of pitching in.

1168
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: The National League.

1169
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: Explain what happened Where the Chris Sale that we saw

1170
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: many years ago one of the dominant pitchers of baseball

1171
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 2: suddenly is back with a vengeance.

1172
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 9: I think it was a new environment. I think it

1173
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 9: was in Atlanta does a great job of I think,

1174
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 9: really creating a positive environment, great manager, great pitching coach,

1175
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 9: and a clubhouse environment that really clicks very well. And

1176
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 9: I think that Chris fit well with that group right away.

1177
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 9: And I also think he's healthy and he seems to

1178
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 9: really be appreciating this new opportunity. I do think clearly

1179
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 9: the Red Sox did not do as well in that

1180
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 9: trade as they should have. I also think they deserve

1181
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 9: a little bit of grace in that. I think Chris's

1182
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 9: results might be a little bit link to where he's

1183
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 9: at right now. Closer to home, of course, he's from Florida,

1184
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 9: comfortable place to play, better place to pitch than Fenway.

1185
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 9: I just think that it's more his kind of speed,

1186
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 9: and it's not so much the fault of the Red

1187
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 9: Sox as I really just want to give credit to

1188
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 9: Chris Sale for putting himself back in this category. And

1189
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 9: you're right. I mean, it's a tremendous achievement for the Braves,

1190
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 9: and yet they're still fighting for their playoff lives, and

1191
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 9: when you consider all the injuries they have faced, and

1192
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 9: as great as Luzuna has been, missing Akunya has been

1193
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 9: a real detriment for them. So it's a lot of fun.

1194
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 9: This is one of many races down the stretch. It's

1195
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 9: going to be really entertaining to see. But I agree

1196
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 9: that watching Chris Sale pitch in very important games late

1197
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 9: in the season, it does make you view his career

1198
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 9: in a different light. And certainly Alexanthopolis's trade for him

1199
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 9: in the offseason was one of the best moves, maybe

1200
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 9: these single best that any GM made last winner JP.

1201
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: When baseball is spoken about, the focus is on the players,

1202
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: and I think it always has been, by and large,

1203
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: but we used to have larger than life managers associated

1204
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: with teams.

1205
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 4: Tommy Lesorda Joe Tory.

1206
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: During the Yankees era of winning that he was a

1207
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: part of the organization. For yeah, is there how important

1208
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: are managers at the major league baseball level anymore? Because

1209
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe along with the culture change, with

1210
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: the front offices being more analytics focused, obviously there's a

1211
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: diminishment of that role's importance or level of importance, at

1212
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: least publicly facing. I feel like fans aren't all that

1213
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: wrapped up in managers anymore.

1214
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 4: They're focused on the players.

1215
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 9: That's very interesting observation, Rich. I think that a couple

1216
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 9: things players still and when you look at their what

1217
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 9: they're able to do, it is, by the way, a

1218
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 9: very healthy thing.

1219
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: We know a.

1220
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 9: Lot more about them now they're able to share themselves

1221
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 9: and their interests more via social media, and so I

1222
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 9: think that the way in which things are communicated has

1223
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 9: certainly changed the old model that I grew up with

1224
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 9: as a fan and as a as a younger journalist,

1225
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 9: with newspapers and magazines being predominantly the way that messages

1226
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 9: got out, it seems is just it. It's totally different now,

1227
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 9: and I think it's helping. Uh And and honestly, maybe

1228
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 9: back in the day as journalists we weren't necessarily doing

1229
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 9: as good of a good enough job of communicating the

1230
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 9: player's personalities. But now I think we know a lot

1231
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 9: more about them, and I think the managers, their their

1232
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 9: status in the game has been usurped a little bit

1233
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 9: by the analytics. And and you'll see in some cases

1234
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 9: I'll say, well, is this the is this the decision

1235
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 9: of a of a manager or is this the part

1236
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 9: office dictating what move should be made in the seventh inning?

1237
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 9: And so I think it's it's become a little bit

1238
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 9: more process oriented and and maybe with replay we don't

1239
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 9: see quite as many colorful arguments on the field and

1240
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 9: the way Bobby Cox would always stand up for his

1241
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 9: players and those types of moments. I can tell you

1242
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 9: one thing. The the interviews and the time that we

1243
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 9: get with with managers is different. I go back to

1244
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 9: the day and age when Jim Leyland would be in

1245
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 9: his in his office day game after night game. He

1246
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 9: would he would have slept on his couch and we'd

1247
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 9: walk in there at nine thirty and he would be,

1248
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 9: you know, basically at a pair of pair of basketball

1249
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 9: shorts with a with a cigarette that would would just

1250
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 9: ask us what we wanted to know. It was not

1251
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 9: quite like the corporate backdrop, but everything else, all the

1252
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 9: sponsors behind you. There were no sponsors behind Jim Len

1253
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 9: We were we were fortunate, if you know, there was

1254
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 9: a just if he hadn't finished the scrambled eggs by that.

1255
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 9: It was like it was a very low key, just

1256
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 9: talking ball kind of a thing, and honestly I missed that.

1257
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 9: I learned a lot about the game in Jim's milk

1258
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 9: Field office. I've got a lot of great memories of

1259
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 9: those days.

1260
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: Well, enjoy the rest of this little week World World Series.

1261
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: I've been watching some of the interviews that they've been doing.

1262
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: I saw with Juan Soto, Aaron Judge, some of the

1263
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: players that are out there, and they got big smiles.

1264
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: They're enjoying it, no question about that.

1265
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 4: JP.

1266
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: You're the best. Enjoy your time in Williamsport.

1267
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week.

1268
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 9: Thanks Steven Rich really appreciate it, and I will I

1269
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 9: will actually tonight, I'm going to be driving right through

1270
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 9: Beautiful State College, PA. So I will I will honk

1271
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 9: at the Hornburger statue out my way through.

1272
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 4: Thank you, JP.

1273
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: Yes, it was the one that replaced the Paterno statue.

1274
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,439
Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. They Gret Rich up there, enjoy it, thanks

1275
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: so much, John Paul Morosi. There heading toward by the way,

1276
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 2: if people don't know, that's in the middle of nowhere, right,

1277
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: Penn State University.

1278
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I mean it is surrounded by

1279
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: a small town that was built because there's a university

1280
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: that has a successful football program, and then cows for

1281
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: as far as you can see, just just agricultural land.

1282
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 4: It's literally in the middle of nowhere.

1283
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: Pennsyltucky.

1284
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: I mean it is, it is. You are stranded. If

1285
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: you are out there, you are stranded, all right.

1286
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: Well, and by the way, if I check UCLA scheduled

1287
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: this year, if I'm correct, they are heading into Happy

1288
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 2: Valley this year.

1289
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's correct. Yeah, u CELA the Bruins. Yeah,

1290
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean maybe we should have a cheeseburger bet on

1291
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: that one.

1292
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

1293
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 4: Just a couple of old, big, big tenors.

1294
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: It's it's wrapping around ore at Beaver Stadium October fifth.

1295
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 4: Well, they're lucky, they're lucky.

1296
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean they drew an early season game and you know, look,

1297
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean state College Pennsylvania can be.

1298
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: How devastating would that be for the locals? One hundred

1299
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: thousand plus packing Beaver Stadium. If UCLA came in there

1300
01:08:59,280 --> 01:08:59,879
Speaker 2: and got.

1301
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 4: The it wouldn't be good. It wouldn't be good.

1302
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are expecting a w there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's especially with the changeover with the

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Speaker 1: UCLA football program. I'm sure expectations for Bruins fans are.

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Speaker 2: Harry p enemy offensive coordinator's got a secret up his sleep.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: And his secret is he's got to beg Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: since he has a little bit more college eligibility to

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Speaker 1: come back and play a couple of games.

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Speaker 2: For him, I think he's going to unleash the single

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Speaker 2: wing and I don't think Ben State's going to be

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Speaker 2: ready for that. All right, let's find out what is

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Speaker 2: trending right now. Is Manzi is sitting by. She's wearing

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Speaker 2: her Chargers calf That's right. Which is a team I

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Speaker 2: want to talk to you with about with Rich because well,

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Speaker 2: we'll have an update on the Chargers very shortly.

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Speaker 3: What's happening out there today.

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Speaker 8: We know who the Raiders starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Is going to be.

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Speaker 3: They said they were going to announce it after the

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Speaker 3: game last night.

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Speaker 8: Yes, and he actually you know, Antonio Pierce.

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Speaker 7: The quote was that he was going to sleep on

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Speaker 7: it and decide in the next coming days.

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Speaker 3: Neither one of them played very well yesterday.

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Speaker 7: No, no, but they have decided that Gardner Minshew will

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Speaker 7: be their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I am surprised.

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Speaker 2: I thought the reason I thought Aid and O'Connell is

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01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: that Minshew is one of those guys that can come

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Speaker 2: off the band. He's used to that role right to

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Speaker 2: sort of make things happen for a team.

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Speaker 3: So wow, I'm a little bit surprised.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and with Minshew, you know what you're getting right.

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Speaker 7: You thought they would go to see what can Aid

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Speaker 7: and O'Connell do. No, Gardner Minshew will be the Raiders

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Speaker 7: starting quarterback. The Minnesota Vikings are signing five time Pro

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Speaker 7: Bowl cornerback Stefan Gilmour to a one year, ten million

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Speaker 7: dollar deal. The Bengals announced that they signed kicker Evan

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Speaker 7: McPherson to a three year contract extension. The NFL Network

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Speaker 7: reports that Bill's wide receiver Marcus Valdez Scaling suffered a

1343
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 7: next spring in Saturday's preseason game, but the X rays

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01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 7: were negative. The NFL preseason does continue later today with

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Speaker 7: the doubleheader Packers taking on the Broncos. Forty nine ers

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01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 7: will be hosting the Saints. Both games will kick off

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Speaker 7: at eight Eastern. In the NBA, the seventy six ers

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Speaker 7: are signing Gershan Yabuselei, who was part of the Olympic

1349
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 7: French team, to a minimum deal. In baseball, the Mets

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01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 7: again they are one game behind Atlanta for the final

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Speaker 7: Waldard spot in the National League. They are tied with

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Speaker 7: the Marlins at home to to top of the eighth inning.

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01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 7: Cal Rawley started things off for the Mariners with the

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Speaker 7: two run shot. They've added some more. They're beating the

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Speaker 7: Pirates four zero. Bottom of the third. Trey Turner has

1356
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 7: homeward for the Phillies. They're beating the Nationals two zero.

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Speaker 7: They're about to start the fourth inning. They're rays up

1358
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 7: on the Diamondbacks two zero. They're about to start the

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Speaker 7: fifth inning. Dodgers and Cardinals are scoreless top of the

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Speaker 7: second inning. But Freddie Freeman, I don't know if you

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01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 7: guys saw that. Yesterday, he jammed his finger on a

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01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 7: very looked like a normal play.

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Speaker 8: They took him out of the play.

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Speaker 7: X rays were negative, but I guess overnight it has

1365
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 7: ballooned up once again, So he is going to have

1366
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Speaker 7: some imaging done. It looks like they're gonna bring back

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Speaker 7: Max Muncie Sooner to take his spot in Monday's game

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Speaker 7: at first base.

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Speaker 8: So Freddie Freeman day to day, No, Beno, I don't.

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Speaker 7: It's just another injury that the Dodgers have to worry abouts.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 7: Jess Brewis are being the guardians to zero bottom of

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Speaker 7: the second inning. And at the FedEx Saint Jude Championship,

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Speaker 7: fourth and final round, he Decky Matsuyama in the lead,

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01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 7: seventeen under par overall, he is even for the day.

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Speaker 8: Back to you, guys.

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Speaker 1: He's on fire.

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Speaker 8: He is on fire. Nick Dunlap is four shots back.

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Speaker 8: He's the closest.

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Speaker 2: All right, Monzie, we'll check in with you a little

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Speaker 3: Coming up on the other side, Rich, I.

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Speaker 2: Want to delve into the current state of the Chargers

1396
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 2: and sort of the oh look that I saw in

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01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 2: the face of Jim Harbaugh yesterday after their preseason loss

1398
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: to the Rams. What's going on with the Bolts? Lay

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Speaker 2: it out for you. This is Fox Sports.

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Speaker 3: Sunday, Go Chargas, Go.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Rich Harber Here Fox Sports Sunday. We're

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Speaker 2: live from the tireraq dot Com studios. So last night, Rich,

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01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: I had LATV to do, so we had the Rams and.

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Speaker 3: The Chargers out at so far.

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01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: Basically your typical unwatchable preseason game. Thirteen to nine was

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01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: the final score. Stetson Bennett actually looked a little bit better.

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01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: Easton Stick could not look any worse. Of this guy,

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01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: believe it or not.

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Speaker 3: This is his sixth.

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Speaker 2: Year in the Chargers organization. He was drafted in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't know it the way he plays on the field.

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01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 2: But it wasn't the game itself, because again it's preseason football.

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01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: It was the demeanor of Jim Harbaugh after the game.

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01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: And he didn't look well after their first preseason game,

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: but he looked considerably worse after their second preseason game.

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: And I think reality is setting in. You just went

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Speaker 2: from the pinnacle of the college football world, perfect season,

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01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: national champions and you left that behind. And by the way,

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01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 2: the door was slam shut behind him because obviously, had

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Speaker 2: he stayed, he wouldn't even be the coach at Michigan

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Speaker 2: this year. And now he's with the Chargers. And I

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01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: said the day I put this out on X, the

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: day it was official that Jim Harbaugh was going to

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Speaker 2: be the next coach of the Chargers, is that overcoming

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01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: the Spanos curse is going to be the greatest challenge

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01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: of Jim Harbaugh's coaching career. Rich This is not a

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01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: good football team, and what's particularly frustrating for Harbor, and again,

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01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 2: he doesn't have his quarterback, and you know, we're not

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Speaker 2: quite sure if he's going to be one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: For Week one.

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 2: They're hoping, obviously they desperately need him out there. They

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01:15:53,439 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 2: have a completely depleted receiver corps and just the they're

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01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 2: playing right now, the frustration is building and he's voicing it.

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh after these games like this is not acceptable, no,

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Speaker 2: which is part of the reason when he decided to

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Speaker 2: maybe bypass that opportunity to be the honorary captain for

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Speaker 2: Michigan for their opening game, because he's looking at the

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Speaker 2: situation he has with the Chargers, He's like, damn, I

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01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 2: got a lot of work to do here.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that decision might be twofold. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Michigan after the show caused penalty the ban against Jim Harbaugh,

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01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: wants to create a little distance between themselves and that

1443
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: situation right now because it could.

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01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 4: Get worse and then c doublea.

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01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: You know, they're you know, they may feel like it's

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01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: getting poked in the eye if after giving him a

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01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: four year ban from the sport, the Wolverines go and

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01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: trot out that coach to be a part of the

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01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: opening game ceremonies. So there's that side of it too

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01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: with Jim Harbor, though he's got his work cut out

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: for him. There's no question about it.

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01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 4: If you look at skilled.

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01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: Position offensive skilled position players across the NFL. Right now,

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01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: the Chargers are in dead last in terms of what

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01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: they have left over from last year and what they've

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01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: lost and what they've replaced it with this offseason, So

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01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 1: they're behind the eight ball offensively. Defensively, I think the

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01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 1: personnel is pretty good. I think they've got a lot

1459
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,440
Speaker 1: of things to work on this this offseason, this preseason,

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Speaker 1: I should say, specifically upfront.

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Speaker 4: On the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: At the interior defensive line position linebacker is going to

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a question mark, but secondary

1464
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: and pass rusher, they're pretty well set. I'm very curious

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Speaker 1: what kind of year the Chargers have everybody, but you

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01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 1: know what, everybody who asked me, Steve, I say the

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Speaker 1: same thing to them. I think they'll be improved from

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Speaker 1: last year, but I don't think that they're going to

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Speaker 1: be even close to what Harbaugh expected them to be

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Speaker 1: with as talented as a quarterback, because of the decisions

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Speaker 1: they've made, the personnel decisions they've made. They shipped off

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Speaker 1: every single pass catcher that Justin Herbert's been comfortable working

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01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: with since he's been in the league.

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Speaker 2: Base well and again because he's going to get no

1475
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: preseason reps. Like, you know, you got the kid McConkie, right,

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you know, everyone's trying to put

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01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 2: together their fantasy football teams. I was talking to Monci

1478
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: yesterday about and she mentioned mcconkee that he might.

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Speaker 3: Be a steal.

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01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 2: Somebody's got to catch passes, right, I mean, somebody's got

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Speaker 2: to be on the receiving end. You figure they're going

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01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: to throw the ball, assuming that Justin Herbert is healthy

1483
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: this year. But look, Jim Harbaugh, I have one hundred

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01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: percent faith in Jim Harbaugh that eventually he can get

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01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: the job done. But this is a year where he's

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Speaker 2: going to have to take a hard look at the

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Speaker 2: personnel he has and who stays and who goes. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, I have, you know, a long track record

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01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 2: of understanding how to put together a winning football team,

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01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna, you know, evaluate the talent on this

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01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: team saying all right, he stays, he goes, and he

1492
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: has that luxury. It's very similar to the Sean Payton

1493
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 2: situation in Denver, where you've got a lot of power,

1494
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: you're not going anywhere. You can really put the team

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01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: together as you want so, I think it's gonna be

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01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: a rough year for the Chargers. I don't think it's

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01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: gonna be a rough future for the Chargers because I

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01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: think Jim Harbaugh eventually can get it done. But just

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Speaker 2: just to look at his demeanor, because we've been airing

1500
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Speaker 2: these postgame press conferences, he almost wanted to throw up yesterday,

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01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 2: like stick made an unbelievable fumble, you know, inside the

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01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 2: five yard line, and he just was shaking his head

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 2: like that can't happen. Yeah, well, that can't happen. He

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01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna say, well, it's a preseason again, No, no.

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Speaker 1: No, no no. And I think that's that's that is

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Speaker 1: the the difference between a Jim Harbaugh, maybe a Brandon Staley.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the difference between a Jim Harbaugh and

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01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: an Anthony Lynn. That's the difference between a Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: and Mike McCoy. You know, that's kind of going back

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Speaker 1: chronologically who they've had in at head coach since twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 1: I believe was Mike McCoy's first year.

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Speaker 2: I'll put it this way, he's been more critical of

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Speaker 2: the players in this team in two preseason games than

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01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: those three coaches were for twelve years.

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01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that sounds about accurate.

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01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: The expectations have risen, and especially now with Justin Herbert

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01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: potentially spending the first couple of games on the potentially

1518
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: spending the first couple of games on the sideline. If

1519
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: this plantar fasciitis isn't right, this could be a lot

1520
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: more criticism coming for the Chargers.

1521
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 2: There are teams in much desperate situation than the Chargers, though,

1522
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 2: we're gonna break it down with you. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, additional fun here on this Sunday, expanding our

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Speaker 2: show as we always do and as we get it

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01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: ready to embark onto another NFL season. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: next week week zero of the college football season, It'll

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01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: be the final week of the NFL preseason and then

1533
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 2: a full unleashing of the college football season, in which.

1534
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 3: Will be that bye week for the nfls to get ready.

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01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: You know, like I said, I'm anxious to get the

1536
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 2: NFL season started like everybody else. But I do like

1537
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 2: the fact that college football, at least for that first week,

1538
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: gets one percent of the spotlight because I'm a college

1539
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 2: football fan. And of course, rich once again, how many

1540
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 2: years have you now been part of the San Diego

1541
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 2: State broadcast team?

1542
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 4: Coming up on year eight?

1543
01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: Is it you're eight or red?

1544
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's been a really fun ride. Really excited

1545
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: for this upcoming season. Brand new head coach Sean Lewis

1546
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: and a brand new offense, about forty five ish new

1547
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: players around the team, which hey, look, that's commonplace in

1548
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 1: college football now. It doesn't just happen when there's turnover

1549
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: at head coach. You could have teams that have been

1550
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: sensational performers Alabama, Ohio State. Alabama's bad example, Caln de

1551
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: Bor taking over this season, but Ohio State coach Day

1552
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:38,839
Speaker 1: has a number of new transfers into his program because

1553
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: every year there's this I don't know if you want

1554
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 1: to call it musical chairs. I don't know if you

1555
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: want to call it just sort of a rearranging of

1556
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: the decks on the boat or the deck.

1557
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 4: Chairs on the boat.

1558
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: But every single year, you're going to see a lot

1559
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: of player movement in the offseason because of name, image

1560
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: and likeness money.

1561
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 2: Speaking of San Diego State, watching some of that Chiefs

1562
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 2: Alliance preseason game and to see Matt Riza in that

1563
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 2: Chief's uniform, the former San Diego State superstar punter who

1564
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 2: went through some legal difficulties that turned out to be

1565
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 2: not what they were originally said to have been, at

1566
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 2: least according to the official report. But we interviewed Matt

1567
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 2: a number of times during his spectacular junior season, his

1568
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: final year there at San Diego State, winner the Ray

1569
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 2: Guy Awards, setting the all time record for punting average.

1570
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 2: And now he's going to get that opportunity with the Chiefs.

1571
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 2: That's not a bad place to.

1572
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 4: Be, No, not a bad place to be.

1573
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: He could go from obviously a very desperate and bleak

1574
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: situation tied to that lawsuit and an investigation to a

1575
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion, which would be an unbelievable turnaround considering

1576
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm fairly certain for a time there, Matt Riza didn't

1577
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: know if he'd ever played football again. So yeah, it's

1578
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: going to be one of the lower on the totem

1579
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: Poles stories season for Kansas City fans, but it's definitely

1580
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: one looking into if you're a fan of that team,

1581
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: because the fact that he's playing football right now is

1582
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: stunning because you know, like like we know, there are

1583
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: predatory people out there who will say a lot of

1584
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 1: things that aren't true to get you in trouble.

1585
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 4: And I think that's what he got wrapped up in.

1586
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the bottom line is, if afforded the opportunity,

1587
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: talent always wins out. And if you've never seen Matt

1588
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: riise a kick of football.

1589
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean it was. We literally remind blowing.

1590
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 4: Referred to him as punt God.

1591
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 2: Hunt God and on a great San Diego State team

1592
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: that year, his coach Brady Hook admitted he is by

1593
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: far our most valuable player.

1594
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 3: You don't often hear that about a punter.

1595
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of preseason football and the Chiefs,

1596
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 2: once again, we always see Mahomes in the preseason.

1597
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,520
Speaker 3: He had the behind the back pass there Travis Kelcey.

1598
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 2: And the yeah, and then they're having fun and he

1599
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: wants to play in the preseason. He always sees action

1600
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 2: in the preseason. He prefers it that way. I'm sure

1601
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: everyone involved with the Chiefs organization holds their breath because

1602
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 2: you never know. I mean, look what happened with JJ

1603
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: McCarthy and the Vikings. So he plays in that first

1604
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 2: game against the Raiders. There wasn't any big hits, there

1605
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: was nothing. It was just, you know, he was out

1606
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 2: on the field, and then after the game he complained

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01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: about some soreness in his knee. All right, so he's

1608
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: a little sore. You know, you're out in the football field.

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01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 2: Tormaniscus out for the year.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And it was a big hit.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't.

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01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: There was no sign of when or how that injury

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Speaker 2: actually occurred.

1615
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 3: Here's what we do know.

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01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: It occurred in a game that did not matter. So

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01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: this really gets back to that balancing act of what

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01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: do you do in the reseason? How much prep do

1619
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 2: you need for the regular season. It seems to be

1620
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: so so scripted.

1621
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 3: Even back in your day. You know how this all worked.

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01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 2: You had a four game preseason back in the day,

1623
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 2: and it was the dress rehearsal game was the third game.

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01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 2: So the dress rehearsal, your your number one guys may

1625
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 2: play at least half right, that was sort of the idea.

1626
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 2: And then of course everybody would take off the fourth week,

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01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 2: and then all those games will be over Thursday or Friday,

1628
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 2: so you get an extra day or two to get

1629
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 2: ready for the start of the regular season. Now, of

1630
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: course we had the bye week, But I just keep

1631
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 2: getting back to the fact that what you know good

1632
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: versus bad. Give me the positives of playing preseason games

1633
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 2: as opposed to the negatives. What positives come out of

1634
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 2: a preseason game.

1635
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: Positives that can come out of a preseason game is

1636
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: and you'll hear athletes talk about this, or it should

1637
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: say football players specifically, you've got to knock the rust

1638
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: off the pads, like when you don't hit anybody in

1639
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: live game action for a long period of time. Obviously

1640
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: wherever your team bows out January, you know, potentially February

1641
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 1: if you're so lucky. But eventually your season ends and

1642
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: then you enter the offseason, and then it's a long

1643
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: time before you're you're able to in a game environment

1644
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: hit somebody on an opposing team. OTA's obviously you get

1645
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 1: a little bit of helmet cracking, training camp a little

1646
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: bit more and join practices. Obviously, avail on opportunity for

1647
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: teams to go you know, live or as close to

1648
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 1: live as possible against opponents on a practice field. But

1649
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 1: there is something very different from a practice field to

1650
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: a game field. When you are prepping in the bowels

1651
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: of a stadium, getting yourself ready for you know, three

1652
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: hours of fury, and then take the field in front

1653
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: of fans, it's a very different feeling than it is

1654
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: at practice.

1655
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 4: And so you need to get the rust off the pads.

1656
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,719
Speaker 1: You need to have a little contact on a field

1657
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: on a stadium with the lights on, with a with

1658
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 1: a crowd behind you to get some of those you know,

1659
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: jitters out. And I don't mean like literally knocking the

1660
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: rust off the pads, and I don't I'm not even

1661
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,799
Speaker 1: specifically just talking about needing to have the contact, because

1662
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 1: clearly you're getting plenty of contact during training camp. What

1663
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm specifically talking about is is the mental hurdle of

1664
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: going from not playing in front of fans, not playing

1665
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: in stadiums during the whole offseason into then starting your

1666
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: regular season. It's lower or higher for every individual, but

1667
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: it's always there for everybody. And you got to get

1668
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 1: that first hit out of the way. You got to

1669
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: get that first tackle out of the way, You got

1670
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: to get that first block out of way, you got

1671
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: to get that first throw out of the way. You know,

1672
01:28:58,200 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: you got to be chased out of the pocket a

1673
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: little bit and improvise on your feet. It's almost like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1674
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: I remember this, this is what I do. And that's

1675
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: the reason why, or a reason why I think the

1676
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: preseason is still important that has value.

1677
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 2: Well, that's again in twenty twenty because of COVID, there

1678
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 2: was no preseason and that season went pretty well.

1679
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I.

1680
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Think eventually, once we do get to the eighteen game schedule,

1681
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 2: a twenty week season, preseason football will disappear.

1682
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 1: Now and the negatives to preseason there are plenty. We

1683
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: can talk about those for a moment too. Look, if

1684
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 1: nobody had a preseason, you wouldn't notice any major dropoff

1685
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 1: team to team. That's the truth. That is the truth, because,

1686
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 1: like you said, COVID, if it proved nothing else, it

1687
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: proved that there. The preseason is really kind of vestigial.

1688
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 1: We don't really need it anymore. It's just sort of

1689
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: a byproduct of yesteryear. But but there are some major

1690
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: negatives that can occur injury is the biggest one. But

1691
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: aside from like, sometimes confidence can be shaken during the preseason.

1692
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 1: You could have a player who, if you would have

1693
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 1: just gotten out there under the stadium lights, would have

1694
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,839
Speaker 1: had a very different looking season if he was thrust

1695
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: into regular season action, but because he had a wonky

1696
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 1: or wobbly preseason, can I stop you right there?

1697
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 4: Change the trajectory.

1698
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 2: This lays me right into my next conversation. Yep, Daniel Jones.

1699
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, perfect, perfect.

1700
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 2: So yesterday, Daniel Jones returns coming off the injury, and

1701
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 2: he threw a pass yesterday that can only be described

1702
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 2: as as bad as it gets. Okay, we're talking about

1703
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 2: a veteran quarterback that you're paying what is it, forty

1704
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 2: million dollars a year or two. He's getting tackled, literally

1705
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:54,440
Speaker 2: wrapped up, tackled in the end zone.

1706
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 3: He's going down.

1707
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 2: He looks up, and he decides to throw the ball,

1708
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,480
Speaker 2: which he does directly to a defender.

1709
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 3: Who walks into the end zone for the pick six.

1710
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 2: Now, if this was a rookie, you know, like a

1711
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 2: panicky rookie, you'd say, Okay. The funny thing is, if

1712
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 2: you watch this play after he lets go of the ball.

1713
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 2: As he's going down on his back, he puts his

1714
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 2: hands on both sides of his helmet, like what did

1715
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 2: I just do? But if you're a New York Giants fan,

1716
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: Barkley's gone. You know this is a new look Giants team.

1717
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,639
Speaker 2: You know if this season is going to have any

1718
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 2: value at all, it all depends on the performance of

1719
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: your quarterback, Daniel Jones. And by the way, after that

1720
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 2: play yesterday, talking to Adam Kaplan, I said, is Tommy

1721
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 2: Devigo stop right there?

1722
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 3: No, boy, Tommy DeVito.

1723
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 2: Has zero chance of being the starting quarterback of this team.

1724
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: The fact is John Marra, the owner, loves Daniel Jones.

1725
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 2: These are the words of Adam Kaplan. I'm like, okay,

1726
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: he may love him, but not after play like that.

1727
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 2: And so you're talking about the fact that you can

1728
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 2: tear down not just the confidence in a player, but

1729
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 2: if it's a quarterback, it's the confidence of the team.

1730
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 2: If their eyewitness like this is our guy, this is

1731
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 2: who we're going with, it doesn't really give you an

1732
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 2: air of confidence. As he gets ready for the start

1733
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 2: of the regular season was to me, it was a

1734
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 2: catastrophe yesterday. What happened to the New York Giants and

1735
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones as they get ready to hopefully have a

1736
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 2: bounce back year after last year's disaster.

1737
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Speaker 1: I look at Daniel Jones as being one of those

1738
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: guys who may never be the same player again. He's

1739
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: I feel like last season especially rattled his confidence to

1740
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: a level that is reminiscent of Carson Wentz, who went

1741
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: from a starter with a bright future to a player

1742
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: who really never resembled himself after that knee injury and

1743
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: after Nick Foles took over the Philadelphia Eagles in his stead.

1744
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 1: I think that there was a lot of hope after

1745
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: that first year with Brian Daball as a head coach

1746
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 1: and a healthy Saquon Barkley, and I think when more

1747
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: of the offense relied on Daniel Jones being the guy

1748
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: in that second year last year with Brian Daball as

1749
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,919
Speaker 1: the head coach, the wheels came off and the pressure mounted,

1750
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: And obviously there were injury situations as well, and Tommy

1751
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: DeVito had to go in there, and that offensive line

1752
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 1: was a problem virtually all season long. But man, oh man,

1753
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how he pulls through this year and

1754
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: has success. If he does it's because he has a

1755
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 1: fortitude that we maybe are under appraising right now because

1756
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's possible, and I truly don't

1757
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a good year for the Giants.

1758
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: I truly think that the Giants are going to be

1759
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 1: one of these teams, especially when you look around the

1760
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 1: competition which has risen in the NFC East. The Philadelphia Eagles,

1761
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: impossible for them to be as bad to start the

1762
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 1: season as they finished the season this year. The Dallas

1763
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't add much, but they didn't lose much either,

1764
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 1: And assuming they have their full complement of players, because

1765
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of contract situations going on all at

1766
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: once with the Cowboys, they're gonna be good again. That's

1767
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 1: a double digit win team. And then the Commanders. The Commanders,

1768
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 1: their biggest question mark was quarterback and they may have

1769
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 1: solved it with Jaden Daniels and Dan Quinn is a

1770
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: heck of a coach. So I think you look around

1771
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 1: that division and that's six games against heightened competition and

1772
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: it's not going to be an easy road for a

1773
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: team that really this offseason lost inarguably their best player,

1774
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 1: and I mean had one of the quieter offseasons of

1775
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: any team in the NFL. What did the Giants do

1776
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 1: to improve their lot? Not a whole lot. They tried

1777
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: to replace Daniel Jones, by the way this offseason. We

1778
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 1: saw that during the OTA's Hard Knocks that came out

1779
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 1: on HBO, Daniel Jones had to answer questions about that.

1780
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 1: So after a confidence rattling season, he has his confidence

1781
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: rattled continuously during the offseason. I think this is gonna

1782
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 1: be a tough year for the Giants.

1783
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 3: I'll put it this way, and I want to talk

1784
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 3: about this.

1785
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 2: On the other side, the odds are out updated odds

1786
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 2: for NFL MVP this season. I have over one hundred

1787
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 2: names on this list. Daniel Jones is not one of them.

1788
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if you really want some long odds, pick

1789
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones to be your league MVP. Speaking of MVP,

1790
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 2: who will be the number one guy in the NFL

1791
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 2: this season?

1792
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 3: We're going to take a look at some of these

1793
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 3: odds who.

1794
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 2: May be a little underrated, who may be a little

1795
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 2: overrated in terms of what they'll actually do in twenty

1796
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 2: twenty four. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin and

1797
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 2: Rich Harberger. Fox Sports Sunday Live from the tire rack

1798
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Now coming up in a few weeks,

1799
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 2: when we actually get to regular season NFL football, this

1800
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 2: show transforms into Red Zone Radio.

1801
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 3: And if you.

1802
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 2: Haven't heard this show before, and we have our veteran

1803
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:23,719
Speaker 2: crew here with Montse and Bo and Chris, we will

1804
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 2: be on the air usually anywhere from seven to ten

1805
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 2: games kicking off simultaneously. And if you're out and about

1806
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 2: and you're trying to figure out what's going on with

1807
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:37,759
Speaker 2: these games, no problem. We'll have everything covered for you well, scores,

1808
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 2: stats and everything else.

1809
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 10: Yes, Chris, if I may wait, way in Rich Steve, Yes, football, Yes,

1810
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 10: thank you, thank you.

1811
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 3: Well it is it is crazy. I mean it's it's frantic.

1812
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 2: And believe us, we love every single second and one

1813
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,520
Speaker 2: more word football football.

1814
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 1: Done done there it is Play the Horns. I am mellet,

1815
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 1: the fresh cut grass.

1816
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 2: I'm always I'm always excited for NFL. But this college

1817
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:11,440
Speaker 2: football season is gonna.

1818
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Be It's gonna be different.

1819
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 3: I'm very very different.

1820
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 2: And again it gets started next week week zero, that

1821
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 2: Florida State Georgia Tech game starting nine o'clock, I believe

1822
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 2: on the West coast, and that will kick it off.

1823
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 10: In Dublin, Ireland, so different. Pointing out to Rich in

1824
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 10: the break and I think I pointed out to you

1825
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,600
Speaker 10: before the show, Steve that, and I think this is

1826
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 10: news to a lot of us here in the studio

1827
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 10: that SMU is now in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

1828
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and of course we've got Stanford and Cal

1829
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 2: in the ACC.

1830
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, but we kind of knew that, Yes, I didn't

1831
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 10: realize SMU was anywhere.

1832
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, SMU.

1833
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 2: You know what, as you guys know, I'm dear friends

1834
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 2: with what the greatest SMU player ever, in my opinion,

1835
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson. And it's been quite an odyssey ever since

1836
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 2: the death penalty in the late eighties for that school.

1837
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, you may have to you may need a

1838
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 2: menu to sort of figure out what's on the menu

1839
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: is in terms of which school is where you might

1840
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 2: be surprised.

1841
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 3: Maybe you haven't kept up today.

1842
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 2: But we'll figure that all out with the start of

1843
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 2: the college football season, all right. By the way, Chris,

1844
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,919
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned something about football.

1845
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 3: I got news for you football.

1846
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 2: I am looking right now at Vegas Insider dot com.

1847
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 2: Rich and I have been watching this for years because

1848
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 2: what they do is it's a consensus of all the

1849
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 2: different odds being posted out of Vegas, so they do

1850
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,879
Speaker 2: sort of a consensus. And one of the very popular

1851
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 2: prop bets is NFL MVP your quarterback, Chris of your team,

1852
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions, Jared Goff, coming off a season where

1853
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 2: he nearly led the Lions to the Super Bowl, is

1854
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 2: plus five thousand this year for NFL MVP.

1855
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 3: You know who else is at plus five thousand?

1856
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 10: Justin fields interesting as Martin Weiss I believe had the

1857
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 10: argument the other week, good value on Jared Goff because

1858
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 10: you got to imagine if the Lions do win this division,

1859
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 10: a division where everyone is getting gassed up over Caleb

1860
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 10: Williams and the Chicago Bears and Jordan Love and the

1861
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 10: Green Bay Packers, if the Lions go out there and

1862
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 10: post like thirteen wins and take the division by storm again,

1863
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 10: and a lot of that is because of the arm

1864
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 10: of Jared Goff. If Goff is winning you football games,

1865
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,759
Speaker 10: you might be able to and again at five thousand,

1866
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 10: why not just throw a tenor on it. Well, I

1867
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 10: will put it this way, if I were to compare

1868
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 10: if Jared Goff would win MVP, it would be very

1869
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 10: similar to another quarterback who over the last ten years,

1870
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 10: the longest odds a player to actually win the MVP

1871
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 10: Award plus seventy five hundred for Matt Ryan and Atlanta

1872
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 10: back in twenty sixteen. Matt Ryan just had that one

1873
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,600
Speaker 10: year in his career where he was always a solid quarterback,

1874
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 10: but he just elevated his game that one year, almost

1875
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 10: winning the Super Bowl.

1876
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 2: Obviously greatest Super Bowl collapse of all time. But Matt

1877
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 2: Ryan got the MVP at plus seventy five hundred.

1878
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 3: So Rich, I want to.

1879
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 2: Give you the updated odds right now, yep, in terms

1880
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 2: of winning the MVP Award, and certainly the no surprise

1881
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 2: at the top is Patrick Mahomes, So no argument there.

1882
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 2: Number two on the list to be the MVP according

1883
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: to the odds makers right now Josh Allen. Right, is

1884
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 2: Josh Allen still there in terms of conversation? And by

1885
01:40:56,479 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 2: the way, the first seventeen names on this list all quarterbacks.

1886
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 2: So there's no Christian McCaffrey, there's no Tyreek Gill, there's

1887
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 2: none of that. There's all quarterbacks.

1888
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Yah. Look, Josh Allen has the goods. Josh Allen is.

1889
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 3: Josh Allen the second best quarterback in this league.

1890
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: In my opinion, he and Burrow and Jackson are kind

1891
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 1: of interchangeable as the second best in the league. You know,

1892
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: Burrow health dependent obviously, because the years that he's been

1893
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 1: healthy for the Cincinnati Bengals, he either competed in an

1894
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game or competed in a Super Bowl. The

1895
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 1: years that he's unhealthy obviously very different for the Bengals.

1896
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 1: So he absolutely needs to be in that conversation for

1897
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 1: the second overall spot. Lamar Jackson, coming off his second

1898
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 1: MVP season, has to be in that conversation, but so

1899
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen. Josh Allen is an incredible force to

1900
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: have to deal with a lot of people. Forget now,

1901
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: but when Ben Roethlisberger first got into the NFL, he

1902
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 1: was a matchup nightmare because when he escaped the pocket,

1903
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 1: he was so big that he was he was hard

1904
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: to get on the ground. So you would have to

1905
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: oftentimes see you know, zone linebackers or even you know,

1906
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:16,719
Speaker 1: man players drop out of coverage to try to help

1907
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 1: bring him to the ground, and that would open up

1908
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 1: obviously underneath routes and the Steelers would feast and the

1909
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 1: same as happening with Josh Allen. Ben Roethlisberger in the

1910
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: pocket very difficult to bring down, so as time elapsed

1911
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: and you had a potential sack or fumble situation on

1912
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 1: your hands. Against most teams, against the Pittsburgh Steelers, he

1913
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 1: had a quarterback who could stand tall in the pocket,

1914
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 1: even with people around his lower body, and deliver strikes.

1915
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:47,639
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's that kind of player and then also throw

1916
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 1: on top of it that once Josh Allen decides to

1917
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 1: run the football, he's actually better athlete. He's bigger and

1918
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: stronger than big Ben ever was. So not only is

1919
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 1: he a capable pocket passer, but he's also and I

1920
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: mean any throw on the field, he's also the type

1921
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 1: of quarterback who can devastate you with his legs. And

1922
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 1: so if it turns into a hey, we're gonna commit

1923
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 1: to the ground and we're gonna wear down this defense

1924
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 1: and we're gonna control the clock, Josh Allen can play

1925
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 1: that game. If it's a shootout, Josh Allen can play

1926
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 1: that game. So it doesn't shock me that he has

1927
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: high odds in terms of winning a Most Valuable Player.

1928
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 2: All right, right now, I will tell you this Mahomes

1929
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 2: is one, Josh Allen is two, Joe Burrow is three,

1930
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson is.

1931
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 3: Five. So who's number four?

1932
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna tell you, And then I'm gonna give you

1933
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 2: one player that is way overrated on these rating on

1934
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 2: these odds, and a few quarterbacks that are a little

1935
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 2: bit low for my taste. But first let's find out

1936
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 2: what is trending right now. She is a unanimous envy

1937
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 2: week after week after week.

1938
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 3: The accolades continue to pour in. For the one and only.

1939
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 8: Months to stop it.

1940
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 7: I do think that shohe O Taani maybe unanimous MVP.

1941
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 8: Make it thirty nine home runs.

1942
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 2: For wow, Oh he just hit another one, another one,

1943
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 2: so he is. He will be the sixth forty forty guy.

1944
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 2: There has never been a fifty to fifty guy. And

1945
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 2: before today he was on pace for forty nine home

1946
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 2: runs and forty eight stolen base.

1947
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, he could be the first Dodger to hit fifty

1948
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 8: homers in a season. Yes, yeah.

1949
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:38,639
Speaker 2: Sean Green, of all people holds the singles season home

1950
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 2: run record for the Dodgers, and no one would know that.

1951
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 7: No, no, but but bow and I learned that recently,

1952
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 7: talked about that.

1953
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know, are you familiar with Sean Green,

1954
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 2: who also had four home runs in a single game,

1955
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 2: by the way.

1956
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, familiar with But would you have.

1957
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 3: Guessed him as the all time season Yeah.

1958
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 11: I mean that's one of those weird Dodger factoids that

1959
01:44:57,880 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 11: I do know.

1960
01:44:58,400 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, there it is.

1961
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, Sean Sean Green exactly forgot yes, Britain, Yeah that's true.

1962
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 1: Was he with the Jets for a little bit there?

1963
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, that was H S H O N N

1964
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 3: Shawn Green.

1965
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe he played both sports.

1966
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 8: That's crazy. Same some people are just talented.

1967
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 2: It a.

1968
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 8: Dodgers and beating the.

1969
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,719
Speaker 7: Cardinals two zero, bottom of the fifth inning. The Twins

1970
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 7: have added another run, so they're blanking the Rangers four

1971
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 7: zero bottom of the third. Blue Jays with the one

1972
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:34,680
Speaker 7: zero lead over the Cubs. Top of the fifth. The

1973
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 7: Brewers are beating the Guardians at home to zero bottom

1974
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:38,719
Speaker 7: of the sixth.

1975
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 8: About to start.

1976
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 7: Astros on the scoreboard first against the White Sox one

1977
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 7: zero bottom of the sixth inning. Royals beating the Reds

1978
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 7: to zero bottom of the fourth. The Diamondbacks are on

1979
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 7: the scoreboard, but it's still all raised six to one

1980
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 7: top of the seventh Brandon Marsh has just hit a

1981
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 7: solo shot, tying the game for the Phillies against the Nationals.

1982
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 8: It's four to four.

1983
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 7: They're about to start the seventh inning. The Pirates are

1984
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 7: officially on the scoreboard, but it's still the Mariners on top.

1985
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 8: Eight to two.

1986
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:06,719
Speaker 7: Bottom of the sixth inning, and the Oriols have added

1987
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 7: some more runs Atlie Richman with the homer Gunner Henderson

1988
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 7: with the two run shot. They're beating the Red Sox

1989
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 7: four zero bottom of the seventh inning, and the Mets

1990
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 7: officially lost at.

1991
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 8: Home to the Marlins three to two.

1992
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 7: So now New York is one and a half games

1993
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 7: behind Atlanta for the final walkhard spot in the National League.

1994
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 7: In the NFL, preseason action does continue today with the

1995
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 7: double header Packers taking on the Broncos forty nine Ers

1996
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 7: hosting the Saints.

1997
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 8: Both games are going to kick off at eight Eastern.

1998
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 7: The Raiders know who's going to be their starting quarterback

1999
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 7: for Week one against the Chargers. Antonio Pierce has named

2000
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 7: Gardner Minshew their starting quarterback. The Vikings are signing five

2001
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 7: time Pro Bowl cornerback Stefan Gilmour to a one year

2002
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 7: ten million dollar deal and he Deki Matsuyama is still

2003
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 7: in the lead at the FedEx Saint Jude Championship, but

2004
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 7: now he's eighteen under par overall. Nick Dunlap five shots back,

2005
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:55,440
Speaker 7: Bick to you guys.

2006
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 2: Very busy day, Mite. Are you ready for week one?

2007
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 2: I remember your very first Oh.

2008
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, what yes, I mean, I'm still we got.

2009
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 3: We got to that first break.

2010
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 2: I remember that, and quick your head was like spitting around.

2011
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 8: I'm good. I thought this was fine. I think I

2012
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 8: think I'm good.

2013
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 3: But now you got it down. See is slow things

2014
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 3: down a little bit?

2015
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:21,680
Speaker 2: You know, you're scrambling when ten games kick off simultaneously.

2016
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you learn to slow it down.

2017
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 8: Sure, and then you just learned that there's you know what,

2018
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 8: you just do your best, do your best, exactly your best.

2019
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 8: You know, games going on. Kaitlyn Clark just took a three.

2020
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 7: Yes, so the Indiana fever just started against the Seattle

2021
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 7: storm that just.

2022
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 8: Started that game.

2023
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask the Caitlin Clark questions that we

2024
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 2: talked about yesterday, Rich a little bit later on. Okay,

2025
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,559
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Speaker 1: All right.

2040
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 2: So we're looking at odds right now for NFL MVP.

2041
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 2: So I mentioned Mahomes is number one, Josh Allen two,

2042
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:30,719
Speaker 2: Burrow is three, Lamar Jackson is five.

2043
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 3: So who is c J.

2044
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 2: Stroud Gardner? Minshew is not, but CJ. Stroud is. Okay,

2045
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 2: let's stop right there. Ce J. Stroud. So he had

2046
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 2: one of the most remarkable rookie seasons ever for an

2047
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback.

2048
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 1: I would have said Flacco, but just I've won.

2049
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 3: Also, well wait till you hear number six. Get to

2050
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 3: that in a second.

2051
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 2: But back, I mean, is it realistic to believe that CJ.

2052
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:11,639
Speaker 2: Stroud will have a better season his second year than

2053
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 2: he had as a rookie?

2054
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: Is it conceivable? Yeah?

2055
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 4: Is it probable?

2056
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 2: No?

2057
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: No, it's a tougher schedule. Let's start there. The Texans

2058
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: were a bad football team. That's why they were picking

2059
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 1: so high in the draft, and as a result, they

2060
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 1: played a weaker schedule and they had benefited from it,

2061
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 1: and they really kind of needed to because if he

2062
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: was going to have the type of season he ended

2063
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 1: up having, especially with some of the injuries that they

2064
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,560
Speaker 1: were dealing with during the course of that season, that

2065
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 1: they could not have played against the class of the

2066
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 1: NFL and had nearly the type of success that they enjoyed.

2067
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: It just would not have happened. Better teams will beat

2068
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,680
Speaker 1: you when you're suffering injuries and you have liabilities on

2069
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 1: your roster, and the text and has had many However,

2070
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: I will say this, his superlative play was the reason

2071
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,719
Speaker 1: why the Texans had the type of season they had.

2072
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with Demico Ryans. This has

2073
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the talent they had at receiver,

2074
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: which you know emerged as one of the better groups

2075
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 1: or more reliable groups, certainly toward the end of the season,

2076
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 1: but was kind of a you know, a who's who

2077
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 1: to start the year. This is this is going to

2078
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:31,759
Speaker 1: be a tough act to follow. And I'm talking about

2079
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: his act and his following of his act because rookie

2080
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 1: seasons are special.

2081
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 4: There's there's something.

2082
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: Kind of almost adorable about how little a rookie player knows.

2083
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, there's you play at the college level and

2084
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 1: you think you got the world figured out, and then

2085
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:52,799
Speaker 1: you go to the NFL and you're like, oh my gosh,

2086
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 1: I know nothing. These guys are so much better, faster,

2087
01:50:56,240 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 1: smarter than anybody I played against at the collegiate life.

2088
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 1: The coaches are smarter, have more time to spend on

2089
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 1: game planning as opposed to having to hit the recruiting

2090
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 1: trail not only now during the offseason, but during the

2091
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:14,679
Speaker 1: season as well, with the transfer portal being as open

2092
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: at it as it is, so there's more time for

2093
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 1: game planning against specific things that teams do. Yeah, to

2094
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 1: answer your question, or circle back to the original question, Steve,

2095
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 1: it's going to be very difficult for him to have

2096
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 1: as good of a season in year two.

2097
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 2: I agree with you that, So I would say Straud

2098
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 2: is a little overrated to be listed ahead of Lamar

2099
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 2: Jackson for MVP this year.

2100
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 3: All right, so here's the guessing game.

2101
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 2: So you figured out Stroud at number four, so let

2102
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:41,759
Speaker 2: me remind you again.

2103
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,600
Speaker 3: You got Mahomes one, Josh Allen.

2104
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 2: Two Burrow, three Stroud, four, Lamar Jackson, five, at seven

2105
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 2: Jordan Love. And then there's a three way tie at

2106
01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 2: eight Brock Purty, Jalen her Hurts and Dak Prescott who's

2107
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:09,799
Speaker 2: number six? So again, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Burrows, Stroud, Jackson.

2108
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 2: Those are the top five and then seven, eight nine

2109
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:17,600
Speaker 2: is Jordan Love, Brock Party, Jalen Hurts, and Dak Prescott.

2110
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 3: Who's six?

2111
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:19,719
Speaker 1: Is it Jared Goff?

2112
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:21,719
Speaker 2: It is not Jared Goff.

2113
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 1: Huh wow, Aaron Rodgers.

2114
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:26,799
Speaker 3: It's not Aaron Rodgers.

2115
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: Wow?

2116
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, this is why, this is why I'm telling

2117
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 2: you it's not Aaron Rodgers and it's not Jared Goff.

2118
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 1: Geez, well, I mean I would I'm I hesitate before

2119
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 1: I say the name, but all of a sudden it's

2120
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 1: kind of a toss up between Tua and Jalen Hurts.

2121
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Tua.

2122
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 2: It's Jalen Hurts. By I mentioned Jalen Hurts, He's type

2123
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 2: for eight with Brock. It's not Tua. In fact, Tua

2124
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 2: is tied with Rogers.

2125
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 3: It is still not.

2126
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well that crazy.

2127
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 3: It's not And it's not Daniel Jones.

2128
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Justin Herbert he's got to be lowered

2129
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:09,919
Speaker 1: down the list because of the injury.

2130
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 2: Now it is Justin Herbert. Wow, So you're telling me

2131
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 2: that Justin Herbert has better odds of being MVP than

2132
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, Brock, Purty, Jalen Hurts, and Dak Prescott. Not

2133
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 2: to mention Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford to a tongue, bye

2134
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 2: looa or Trevor Lawrence.

2135
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it.

2136
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean, how is Justin Herbert's name listed ahead of

2137
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks?

2138
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 4: Well, here's here's the thing, and.

2139
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 3: This is the Jim Harbaugh hype.

2140
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: Well it is, and and also it's better hype. You know,

2141
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 1: Think about how many professional betters there are out there,

2142
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: very few. Think about how many Novice. Hey, I got

2143
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 1: some money. I'm in Vegas for this concert. I'm gonna

2144
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 1: go to a sports book the day before, and I'm

2145
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 1: gonna throw money down on a futures bet in the NFL. Well,

2146
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're looking at the odds. You

2147
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 1: don't want to pick a favorite, because that's no fun.

2148
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 1: You want to pick somebody with some longer odds. So

2149
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 1: you start going through the names of the longer odds

2150
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 1: players and you start losing faith pretty quick. But like

2151
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 1: you just said, new culture, new head coach, obviously an

2152
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: offensive focused head coach, even though he's more focused on

2153
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, the run game in the.

2154
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 4: Play action game.

2155
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 3: Nobody to throw the ball to.

2156
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 4: I get it, But I'm saying this is this is

2157
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 4: better hype.

2158
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 2: But really, I mean, you have Jordan Love coming up

2159
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 2: that incredible year he had ye, you have Dak Prescott

2160
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 2: coming up here where he was runner up for MVP.

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Speaker 2: You have brock Perty, you have Jalen Hurts. All those

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Speaker 2: guys are listed after Justin Herbert. I mean, I must

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01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 2: be money pouring in on can body you can?

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Speaker 9: I can?

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Speaker 11: I just say, like as not even trying to be

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Speaker 11: a homer. I think Jalen Hurts is way too low

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Speaker 11: on this list.

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Speaker 2: Well, I agree with.

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Speaker 3: Ahead of Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's ridiculous.

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01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 1: It's took a long time for me to arrive at

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01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's name, and I agree with you.

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01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 2: I mean, would you listen Aaron Rodgers as a better

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01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: odds to be MVP than Justin Herbert this year?

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Speaker 4: I mean right now?

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Speaker 1: Knowing, let's put it this way, if we were doing

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Speaker 1: this show from Nevada, my next stop would be a

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01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 1: sportsbook to put some money on Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Would you bet on brock Purty or Justin Herbert?

2180
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 4: I would bet on brock Purty.

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01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 3: Would you bet on Jordan Love or Justin Herbert?

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01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 1: I would say that's where the rubber starts, meaning the

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01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: road for me. But I would my lean would be Jordan.

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01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 3: Love, Jalen Hurts, or Justin Herbert.

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01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 4: Again another close call.

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01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, just wait, I'm looking down this list.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean yeah, I mean, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I think this got bet up by novice vetters. That's

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Speaker 1: the reason why the odds had to be improved, the

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Speaker 1: longer odds. I mean, look, I let's let's face it.

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Speaker 1: You know, Aaron Rodgers is one of those guys who

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01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 1: people just don't want to put their money behind, even

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01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 1: though he's one of the most talented quarterbacks on this

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Speaker 1: list altogether.

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Speaker 2: All right, I have one more name on the other side.

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01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 2: I want to get to really curious of what kind

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Speaker 2: of season you think he will have. We'll have that

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Speaker 2: coming up. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Romberger,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday Live from the Tyraq dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: So we've been looking at some NFL MVP odds going

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01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 2: into the season. So after Dak Prescott, as we are

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01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 2: still stunned that Justin Herbert is listed ahead of Jordan Love,

2203
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 2: Brock Party, Jalen Hurts, and Dak Prescott, you have Matthew Stafford,

2204
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers two, a tongue of Bye, Lloyd, Trevor Lawrence,

2205
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, Kirk Cousins, Justin Fields, Jared Goff, Kyler, Murray

2206
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, and at the bottom of the list of

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01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks.

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01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson. All right, boy, you talk about.

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01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 2: A weird situation, right, So he goes down, they take

2210
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco literally off the couch, and he leads them

2211
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:11,480
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. Stefanski is Coach of the Year, Flacco

2212
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 2: is Comeback Player of the Year, Garrett is defensive player,

2213
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 2: of the Year. The Browns are cleaning up the awards,

2214
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 2: and now Deshaun Watson is back.

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01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 3: As the quarterback of a playoff team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's just the odyssey of Deshaun Watson to

2217
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 2: this point, I have no feel, if you were to

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01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm answering my own question. No, I literally have zero

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01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 2: feel for what kind of season.

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01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:43,600
Speaker 3: It's going to be for Deshaun Watson.

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01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't.

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01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 3: I don't have any vision.

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01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 2: You normally, whether you're right or wrong, at least you

2224
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 2: have a vision, right, Oh yeah, he's going to be

2225
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 2: better or he's worse, And you know, most of the

2226
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 2: time I'm wrong, But at least I have a thought, like, Okay,

2227
01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 2: I can vision what this guy's going to be this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 2: I have no vision for Deshaun Watson.

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01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 4: I'll give you a vision, and I give me.

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01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 3: A vision because I need something with him right now.

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01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 1: All right. This is what this is what I think

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01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: that the Browns have done in reaction to what it's

2233
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 1: been with Deshaun Watson. They they've they've created a kind

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01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 1: of almost like a refrigerator full of things that you

2235
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:29,800
Speaker 1: like when you're hungry, you know, how like your mom

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01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 1: says to you when you're a kid, Hey, I just

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01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: went to the store. So when you get home from school,

2238
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:36,760
Speaker 1: help yourself. It's gonna be a late night at work.

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01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, yes, and you're excited because you know,

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Speaker 1: when you get home from school, you're hungry, and so

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01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 1: you're thinking about, man, we're gonna have some pizza bites

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01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 1: in the freezer, and we're gonna have some of those

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01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, some of those some of those those those

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01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 1: peanut butter bars in the fridge that I'm excited to.

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01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 1: And then you open up the refrigerator and it's well stocked.

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01:58:57,640 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 1: But you're like, ah, do I want Deshaun Watson? Nah,

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01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:06,920
Speaker 1: it's weird every time it's But do I want Dorian

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01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson. I mean it's healthy, but I'm not really

2249
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 1: in the mood for that. Oh, Jameis Winson, you know what?

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Speaker 1: That was cool when I was like in eighth grade,

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01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 1: but I'm not like. So the Browns their problem is

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01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 1: they had to fill up that quarterback room with players

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01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:29,400
Speaker 1: who you've seen, who you know, who you can kind

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01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 1: of trust at the NFL level, and it's because Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson's fragile Steve like, we're not going to get a

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Speaker 1: full seat. Just get out of your head. We are

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01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 1: not going to get a full season of Deshaun Watson.

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01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 1: So in terms of MVP voting or list or long odds,

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01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 1: et cetera, the Browns may be a great team this season,

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01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna have a lot to do

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01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:50,919
Speaker 1: with DeShawn.

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Speaker 3: All Right, So you're not banking.

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01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 2: You're not making bets on Deshaun Watson to be the

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Speaker 2: League's Most Valuable Player.

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Speaker 1: No, Deshaun Watson has looked like an MVP since he

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Speaker 1: was in Houston, and that was now over a half

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02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 1: decade ago.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you can get the same odds for

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey to be MVP with Will Levis. Okay, wow,

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02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 2: so they're they're they're considered equal in terms of the

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02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 2: odds to be the league's most Valuable Player Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 2: and Will Levis.

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02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would almost sooner put my money on Will

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02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 1: Levis than I would Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, at the very bottom of.

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Speaker 2: The Selissa Russell Wilson, Okay, very very bottom, miss all Right,

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Speaker 2: we had a question yesterday that just blew up that

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02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you on the other side. It's

2279
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Speaker 2: going to be a surprise. Rich, this is Fox Sports Sunday. Well, well,

2280
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 2: only a few weeks away, folks, the start of the

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02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 2: NFL season, and you definitely want to be listening to

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02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:59,600
Speaker 2: this show once that season gets started. Once again, we

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Speaker 2: you have followed my broadcasting career, there have been times

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Speaker 2: when I've had more jobs than I can count, but

2291
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:30,720
Speaker 2: not like this guy, Rich Hornberger. Oh no, no. He's

2292
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Speaker 2: doing six hours of radio Monday to Friday on two

2293
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Speaker 2: different stations, national radio shows on Saturdays and Sundays. He's

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Speaker 2: soon to embark on another season as the analyst for

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Speaker 2: Sandagog State Football, and he also does TV on Sunday nights.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure you're ready for this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, I don't know, Probably not no, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not, definitely not I'm regretting at all. Oh got it?

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Speaker 3: Well, good luck to you, better better you than me.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I want to get off base for

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Speaker 2: a little bit here because this was something that started yesterday. Moncie,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna open up Monsey's micaus. This was something we

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Speaker 2: talked about yesterday Bo and Chris as well. So apparently

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Speaker 2: Moncey and Dan Bayer had it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this happens, you know, they speak to each other.

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Speaker 2: Well, I understand we are one huge family here at

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. They're no strangers in this building to

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02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:29,600
Speaker 2: say the least. But like any family, we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: disagreements of course. So Moncey had brought up the point.

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Speaker 2: We obviously have talked a lot about Caitlin Clark, and

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Speaker 2: deservedly so.

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Speaker 3: She has been a very big name in the news.

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Speaker 2: Over the last couple of years, but it's really come

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Speaker 2: to that next level this year with her having a

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Speaker 2: big run at IOWA, breaking all these scoring records and

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Speaker 2: then jumping into the WNBA. So Moncey and Dan Bayer

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02:02:56,120 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 2: got into it about who is more recognize famous.

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Speaker 8: I said, she's famous.

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Speaker 2: See see now this this is this is this is

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Speaker 2: something when we talk about fame and recognizability. I mean,

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02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 2: you could be infamous and recognizable, right of course. So

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Speaker 2: I guess it's just you know, like if you if

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Speaker 2: you had a picture of somebody or you threw the

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Speaker 2: name out, who would get more recognition? Okay, So it

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Speaker 2: came down to Matzi with Caitlin Clark and Dan countered

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Speaker 2: with Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 8: Well it just happened.

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Speaker 7: This wasn't planned, and the conversation was about Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 7: And then I just made a comment while I was like, well,

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Speaker 7: oh it was because it came up how she was

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Speaker 7: at the Yankee game and Aaron Judge handed her a

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Speaker 7: gift and so it was like a joke, like she

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02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:44,920
Speaker 7: didn't Kaitlyn Clark be handing Aaron Judge a gift. I

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Speaker 7: was like, well, Kaitlyn Clark is more famous than Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 7: And that's how it started.

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Speaker 3: And then Dan just and then Dan reformed.

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Speaker 8: Yes, refused to accept it.

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Speaker 1: Rich.

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Speaker 7: This went on for three days and then Judge, you know,

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Speaker 7: three hundred homers the fastest is anyone that anyone had

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Speaker 7: done it?

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Speaker 8: So like a three day conversation, all right.

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Speaker 3: I side with Caitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 2: I think I think Kaitlyn Clark is more famous than

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Speaker 2: Aaron I agree, yes.

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Speaker 8: And we're talking about you have to ask non sports people.

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Speaker 10: Okay, okay, So I don't even think Aaron Judge is

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Speaker 10: the most famous person in baseball.

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Speaker 3: He's not. And we know, all right, so let me

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Speaker 3: that's where I'm going to go next.

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Speaker 2: All right, who here believes is more famous between Kaitlyn

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Speaker 2: Clark and show Hey Otani.

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Speaker 8: And that's that's an interesting one.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 10: I mean, we're going worldwide, so I would too.

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Speaker 8: I would too, I would lean Otani. But I don't

2358
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Speaker 8: think it's very We don't have to lean.

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Speaker 3: You can just fall. Let me ask you.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it's that has.

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Speaker 11: An entire country behind him. Kaitlan Clark is known mostly

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Speaker 11: in the Midwest.

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Speaker 7: The Olympics in Paris, people were wearing Iowa jerseys.

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Speaker 10: There were Australia and New Zealand reporters I saw who

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Speaker 10: went out to Team USA basketball and as soon to

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Speaker 10: cover them, and as soon as they found out Kaitlyn

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Speaker 10: Clark was not on Team USA basketball, they stopped covering

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Speaker 10: the team.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's let me. Let me put Caitlin Clark aside,

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Speaker 2: since you all seem to side with Otani outside of

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Speaker 2: so who is more famous?

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Speaker 1: Show?

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Speaker 3: Hey Otani or Steph Curry?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Steph Curry.

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Speaker 11: Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: And here's the reason why. Look, that's a four time

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Speaker 1: NBA champ. He has been a sponsorable athlete for a

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Speaker 1: lot longer. He has dominated a worldwide sport now for

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Speaker 1: a lot longer. I mean, think about think about even

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Speaker 1: the Olympics with you know how close some of these

2381
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Speaker 1: games were with the US, Like the NBA has done

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02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 1: a great job expanding the borders of that game. And

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Speaker 1: so there's basketball fans everywhere. I'm not saying there aren't

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Speaker 1: baseball fans everywhere, but Steph Curry has been out it

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02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:52,280
Speaker 1: a lot longer.

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Speaker 2: I would say, Steph, So we have two steps.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it's Steph, So you.

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Speaker 3: Think it's ot Yeah, I think those two choices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Like, if you're talking non sports people, I think you

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Speaker 7: say the name.

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Speaker 8: Have you heard the name Steph Curry? Or they're gonna

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Speaker 8: be like I've heard Otani?

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Speaker 1: You think so?

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Speaker 11: Because what TV show can I watch on this this fall?

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02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:20,440
Speaker 11: Because Steph has a TV show coming out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's a couple.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Basketball is so much more international than baseball too, and

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Speaker 11: baseball is already pretty internationally.

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Speaker 10: I think this is just an East West split. If

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02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:33,000
Speaker 10: you go towards Europe, you're gonna get Curry, if you

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Speaker 10: go towards Asia.

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Speaker 1: Are we all? Then?

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02:06:35,320 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 3: If we say steph versus Lebron, is it Lebron.

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02:06:38,440 --> 02:06:44,600
Speaker 2: It's Lebron, Lebron, Lebron. Okay, let's let's let's venture outside

2407
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Speaker 2: the box for a moment here.

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02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:47,120
Speaker 3: Okay, let's come back.

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02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:48,680
Speaker 10: To hold on, hold on, I don't even think we've

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Speaker 10: gotten to the top of the ladder with sports people.

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Speaker 11: Steve's about to ask us swift.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's ask you this.

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Speaker 2: Let's know, Lebron versus Brady, Lebron versus Tom Bray.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, I want to go Lebron versus Messy.

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Speaker 1: Oh Messa, yeah, Messy. Yeah.

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02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:10,280
Speaker 11: I think you're splitting hairs at this point, though.

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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 1: We definitely are.

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02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:13,440
Speaker 4: We're talking about to.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about eighty twenty split, but I mean,

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Speaker 2: is it is it sixty forty?

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Speaker 10: Is it hit the most famous soccer player? We gotta

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Speaker 10: go Lebron versus Ronaldo?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think Ronaldo takes it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh, so of athletes that have had the most

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Speaker 2: facial surgery done, Brady versus Ronaldo, Jesus, oh my god,

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02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:36,280
Speaker 2: Ronaldo wins that. Again, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Completely convinced that Brady's had anyone.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I mean you would even recognize him from the

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Speaker 2: guy you played with.

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Speaker 4: But that's not true.

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02:07:46,640 --> 02:07:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, any if you look at Shame Tom

2434
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:53,520
Speaker 2: Brady and twenty twenty four Brady, they're completely different. We

2435
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 2: don't think that Tom Brady where he.

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02:07:57,040 --> 02:08:02,360
Speaker 1: Just has a really really regimented skincare routine.

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02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 2: But anyway, outside of this country, how many people know

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady?

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02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:12,000
Speaker 4: Oh lots, lots and lots, do.

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02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 2: You think, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, more than Messi, Ronaldo,

2441
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 2: lebron Steph, Caitlin Clark.

2442
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Speaker 1: So this is where I think the rubber meets the

2443
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:26,920
Speaker 1: road with uh. With social media, like Tom Brady did

2444
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 1: something something insanely smart for his brand in the second

2445
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: half of his time with the New England Patriots, even

2446
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:38,400
Speaker 1: though Bill Belichick does not like social media. In fact,

2447
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 1: it's usually about two or three times a year when

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02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 1: you're in that meeting room with Bill Belichick as a

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02:08:43,600 --> 02:08:47,200
Speaker 1: New England Patriot that he is talking so badly about

2450
02:08:47,200 --> 02:08:50,080
Speaker 1: social media. He doesn't want anybody to be on social media.

2451
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 1: I remember when Chad Ocho Cinco signed as a receiver

2452
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:56,960
Speaker 1: with New England. I remember thinking like, how is this

2453
02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 1: going to work? Because at the time Twitter was still

2454
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:03,640
Speaker 1: relatively young. This is back in two thousand and ten,

2455
02:09:03,800 --> 02:09:07,240
Speaker 1: twenty eleven somewhere around there, it was still relatively young,

2456
02:09:07,480 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 1: and he was a superstar on Twitter, right, yeah, and

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02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm just like, how is this gonna work for Chad

2458
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:15,920
Speaker 1: being here? I mean, they made it work obviously. You know,

2459
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,320
Speaker 1: he gave people access to who he was. He wasn't

2460
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:20,360
Speaker 1: a particularly good wide receiver when he was in New

2461
02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 1: England for US, but but they figured it out. My

2462
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:26,280
Speaker 1: point though, being this was something that Bill put the

2463
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:29,200
Speaker 1: kabash on for years with a lot of the star players.

2464
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady got so big that he knew he could

2465
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:35,680
Speaker 1: start expanding his brand and promoting himself on social media

2466
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:39,920
Speaker 1: and started to effectively Where to now again.

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02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 2: But we're talking about what I talk about worldwide. I'm

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02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:46,800
Speaker 2: not sure that Tom Brady is any more recognizable than

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02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:51,440
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning. Yeah right, I mean as far as recognizability.

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02:09:51,640 --> 02:09:52,720
Speaker 4: I mean, but for the.

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02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:55,880
Speaker 1: Same reason because Peyton, again, that's a guy who it

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02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:58,960
Speaker 1: really happened post career, but he decided to launch himself

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02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,920
Speaker 1: into becoming a pub figure more so than even being

2474
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 1: a football player.

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02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 4: Same with Tom Brady.

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02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:07,960
Speaker 2: All right, worldwide, I'm not talking about popularity. I'm talking

2477
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:13,920
Speaker 2: about recognizability, which is who is Well, not necessarily you

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02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:17,800
Speaker 2: could hate somebody and certainly recognize. Yeah, that's so, that's

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02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 2: not that I'm talking about recognizable. You show pictures side

2480
02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:23,440
Speaker 2: by side, do you know who this person is?

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02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:23,840
Speaker 8: Sure?

2482
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:29,680
Speaker 2: I get you the two two names right now, Donald

2483
02:10:29,720 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 2: Trump and Taylor Swift.

2484
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:35,680
Speaker 3: Who is more recognizable Taylor Swift?

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02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:41,160
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, Well, she's more popular's more more recognizable. Yeah,

2486
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 2: you don't think that some people do not recognize Donald Trump.

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02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:50,160
Speaker 1: I think it's possible, although unlikely. It's let's put it

2488
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:54,360
Speaker 1: this way. It's possible to go through your day and

2489
02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 1: your life buying large without running into too much Donald

2490
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:02,360
Speaker 1: Trump stuff. It is literally impossible to avoid Taylor Swift. Yeah,

2491
02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:05,720
Speaker 1: when you go to a certain so you.

2492
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:09,080
Speaker 2: Believe there are people that if you showed a picture

2493
02:11:09,160 --> 02:11:11,520
Speaker 2: of Trump, they would have absolutely no idea who that

2494
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:15,160
Speaker 2: is no, I just I'm not talking popularity.

2495
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying recognize.

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02:11:17,200 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 10: Pick two people who are very universal recognizable. But I'm

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02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:22,760
Speaker 10: still going to lean Taylor Swift on this.

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02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:25,800
Speaker 2: So you're saying yes, So you're saying Taylor Swift is

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02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:30,440
Speaker 2: more recognizable than Beyonce. Yes at this point, yeah, well

2500
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 2: you you were a little waffling on that one.

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02:11:32,360 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 8: But I said yes, I said yes, I still have.

2502
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 2: To think about it for a little bit. Does not

2503
02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:41,920
Speaker 2: be a weakness of an opinion, exactly, it's all said

2504
02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:46,280
Speaker 2: and done, Yes, go ahead, Taylor Swift is the most

2505
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:52,200
Speaker 2: recognizable human being out of the seven billion on this scene.

2506
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 4: I totally thought you were gonna say so.

2507
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:56,840
Speaker 1: When it's all said and done, Donald Trump is starting

2508
02:11:56,840 --> 02:11:57,920
Speaker 1: for the Tampa Bay bucket.

2509
02:11:58,640 --> 02:12:01,480
Speaker 4: I thought that's where there's this heading. I was so confused.

2510
02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 2: But all right, the man that led to the death

2511
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:06,840
Speaker 2: of the USFL back in the day, all right, So

2512
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:08,200
Speaker 2: I just wanted to get that out.

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02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 1: Of the way.

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02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 11: No bts mentioned there, Steve oh btsts might be more

2515
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:13,720
Speaker 11: recognizable than Taylor Swift.

2516
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:15,680
Speaker 2: If I was going to do a top five, if

2517
02:12:15,680 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 2: I was going to do it, really, if you could

2518
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:19,360
Speaker 2: you identify them by a picture.

2519
02:12:19,480 --> 02:12:19,880
Speaker 8: I could not.

2520
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:22,240
Speaker 11: I mean, I couldn't, but I know they have.

2521
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:28,360
Speaker 2: Again your confusing popularity versus recognizability.

2522
02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:31,960
Speaker 11: I think with their popularity, their recognizability is also there too.

2523
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:33,760
Speaker 11: You're just not going to be a generation.

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02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:38,400
Speaker 2: He was more recognizable Caitlin Clark or Simone Biles?

2525
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:38,920
Speaker 1: Oh?

2526
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:39,840
Speaker 4: Ok, sim.

2527
02:12:41,240 --> 02:12:47,400
Speaker 10: Yes, she is ejected. That is outside the realm of

2528
02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:50,280
Speaker 10: us as sports fans. Now you've bought the people at

2529
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:51,640
Speaker 10: home watching and see it.

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02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think montegrees with that. She doesn't, I know,

2531
02:12:55,480 --> 02:12:56,200
Speaker 2: she said.

2532
02:12:55,960 --> 02:12:56,840
Speaker 8: No, I'm sorry.

2533
02:12:56,840 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 2: I was watching Who's more recognizable Caitlyn Clark or some Biles?

2534
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:00,960
Speaker 4: Oh?

2535
02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 7: I said Kaitlyn Clark, Yes, I said Kaitlyn Clark.

2536
02:13:04,440 --> 02:13:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. See that's what I said to its.

2537
02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:11,760
Speaker 3: More recognizable Kaitlin Clark or Angel Reese. K Yeah, you

2538
02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:12,839
Speaker 3: don't know what Angel Reese.

2539
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:18,120
Speaker 1: Looks like, which, by the way, interesting following TikTok all

2540
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:21,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Yeah, very very very interesting, A very

2541
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:26,000
Speaker 1: good interested. All right, that's all we have for you

2542
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 1: to think.

2543
02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:29,800
Speaker 3: I was just thinking of other days that we out.

2544
02:13:29,880 --> 02:13:34,040
Speaker 10: In my head, this is like this, if I'm going

2545
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:36,640
Speaker 10: to put together a top five in no particular order.

2546
02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:40,320
Speaker 10: I think I have Rinaldo Taylor Swift, Donald Trump, the

2547
02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:47,760
Speaker 10: Dolly Lama, and like whoever the most recognizable Wait a second.

2548
02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:50,680
Speaker 3: Dolly Lama or Oprah Dolly Lama?

2549
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:54,480
Speaker 11: Or why do we have to stop at real people?

2550
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:56,160
Speaker 11: What about Mickey Mouse?

2551
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:57,280
Speaker 3: Very good?

2552
02:13:57,640 --> 02:14:01,160
Speaker 1: I think that tops. Everybody can't go anywhere on the

2553
02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:04,000
Speaker 1: planet without seeing Mickey Mouse or the Golden Arches.

2554
02:14:04,040 --> 02:14:06,560
Speaker 2: All right, well, you mentioned Tom Brady. On the other side,

2555
02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:10,720
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Tom Brady's next venture. Is

2556
02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:13,280
Speaker 2: it gonna be worth the listen? We'll break it down.

2557
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02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:21,400
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2560
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2561
02:14:29,880 --> 02:14:32,520
Speaker 2: be there once we get to the start of the

2562
02:14:32,680 --> 02:14:37,080
Speaker 2: NFL season, bringing you updates constantly in the moment of

2563
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Speaker 2: every NFL game.

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Speaker 3: We cannot wait for that.

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Speaker 1: All right.

2566
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Speaker 2: One guy that's gonna be front and center is the

2567
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Speaker 2: new high man in terms of the highest page sports

2568
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:51,920
Speaker 2: broadcaster in the business before he's even done a single broadcast,

2569
02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:55,400
Speaker 2: and that is Tom Brady. After he signed that tenure

2570
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Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy five million dollar deal which puts

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Speaker 2: him at the top of the mountain. And again for him,

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Speaker 2: that's chump change. It really doesn't matter so much about

2573
02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:11,120
Speaker 2: the deal, but it certainly puts a pot spotlight on

2574
02:15:11,480 --> 02:15:14,560
Speaker 2: the fact that obviously Tom Brady is the goat in

2575
02:15:14,720 --> 02:15:17,920
Speaker 2: terms of quarterbacks and NFL history and now the highest

2576
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:22,120
Speaker 2: paid broadcaster in the history of that sport. So now

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02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:24,680
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, who by the way, keeps throwing out hints

2578
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:27,680
Speaker 2: about his return to the NFL, he's forty seven. Now

2579
02:15:28,600 --> 02:15:32,760
Speaker 2: he looks like he's twenty five with all the work

2580
02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:34,840
Speaker 2: he's done, and more power to him. I don't care

2581
02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:35,920
Speaker 2: he wants to look that way.

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Speaker 1: Go for.

2583
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 3: What exactly?

2584
02:15:39,600 --> 02:15:42,160
Speaker 2: As a former teammate of Tom Brady, and we've seen

2585
02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:46,560
Speaker 2: plenty of tom Brady post New England Patriots in terms

2586
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:50,720
Speaker 2: of social media and everything else. We heard him sort

2587
02:15:50,720 --> 02:15:55,360
Speaker 2: of do a crack on Daniel Jones, but then immediately.

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Speaker 3: Walk it back.

2589
02:15:55,760 --> 02:15:58,400
Speaker 2: He said, well, you know, let's say Daniel Jones through

2590
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:01,880
Speaker 2: an interception and a big laugh, and then he backed, I.

2591
02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:03,760
Speaker 3: Could have used any name, right of those.

2592
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:08,080
Speaker 2: Is this a guy that is going to be comfortable

2593
02:16:08,120 --> 02:16:13,600
Speaker 2: being critical of what he observes during an NFL game

2594
02:16:14,040 --> 02:16:20,400
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. So he is going to freely fire

2595
02:16:20,520 --> 02:16:25,760
Speaker 2: off on players if they do bad things on the field.

2596
02:16:25,800 --> 02:16:29,160
Speaker 2: You don't see they'll have any hesitancy to do something

2597
02:16:29,240 --> 02:16:29,360
Speaker 2: like that.

2598
02:16:29,480 --> 02:16:34,400
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And here's why nobody knows the game

2599
02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:40,360
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady knows the game. Nobody's ever played in

2600
02:16:40,600 --> 02:16:45,240
Speaker 1: that many postseason games started in, that many postseason games won,

2601
02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:48,680
Speaker 1: that many postseason games won, that many Super Bowls, And

2602
02:16:49,120 --> 02:16:53,520
Speaker 1: that longevity isn't just due to luck. Obviously, he played

2603
02:16:53,600 --> 02:16:56,200
Speaker 1: hurt a lot throughout the course of his season. He

2604
02:16:56,280 --> 02:16:59,480
Speaker 1: was insanely durable because he was such a tough, minded,

2605
02:16:59,520 --> 02:17:03,120
Speaker 1: competitive so he knows what it's like when there's a

2606
02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:05,360
Speaker 1: nagging injury. And trust me when I tell you this,

2607
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:07,920
Speaker 1: if there's a football player on the field dealing with

2608
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:10,280
Speaker 1: an injury, he'll be able to tell you about a

2609
02:17:10,320 --> 02:17:12,480
Speaker 1: time in his career that maybe he had to play

2610
02:17:12,560 --> 02:17:16,360
Speaker 1: through something like that, and you know what obstacles there

2611
02:17:16,360 --> 02:17:19,280
Speaker 1: are to overcome that situation and what you know, uh

2612
02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:24,160
Speaker 1: sort of considerations you take before even playing with an

2613
02:17:24,200 --> 02:17:28,680
Speaker 1: injury like that or defenses that you're facing, Uh, yeah.

2614
02:17:28,720 --> 02:17:30,680
Speaker 1: You know, this reminds me of the time when I

2615
02:17:30,760 --> 02:17:33,279
Speaker 1: was playing preparing for a Rex Ryan New York Jets

2616
02:17:33,320 --> 02:17:35,720
Speaker 1: team and they were, you know, only line up with

2617
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, two defensive linemen and they had you know,

2618
02:17:38,959 --> 02:17:41,720
Speaker 1: four linebackers on the field, and then they had a

2619
02:17:41,800 --> 02:17:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, a shell of seven defenders over the top

2620
02:17:46,480 --> 02:17:49,240
Speaker 1: and it was just impossible. Or I guess that's more

2621
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:51,800
Speaker 1: than eleven, but you get my point. You have five

2622
02:17:52,840 --> 02:17:55,760
Speaker 1: secondary members over the top and just confusing the picture

2623
02:17:55,760 --> 02:17:57,320
Speaker 1: and clouding things like. He's going to be able to

2624
02:17:57,360 --> 02:18:01,360
Speaker 1: draw back from all these experiences, but also he's gonna

2625
02:18:01,400 --> 02:18:04,600
Speaker 1: be able to tell you when a mistake was made

2626
02:18:04,640 --> 02:18:07,520
Speaker 1: by a quarterback it was made by maybe a lazy

2627
02:18:07,640 --> 02:18:10,320
Speaker 1: route that was ran, a mistake was made by an

2628
02:18:10,360 --> 02:18:13,080
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the pass protection, or if it was

2629
02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:16,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback's job to throw hot off of a certain

2630
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:20,039
Speaker 1: player that maybe had sacked the quarterback or hit him

2631
02:18:20,040 --> 02:18:22,760
Speaker 1: as he threw. He's gonna be able to diagnose all

2632
02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:25,240
Speaker 1: that stuff as it's happening live in action.

2633
02:18:25,680 --> 02:18:26,320
Speaker 4: So when you.

2634
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:28,640
Speaker 1: Say, oh, man, like, is Tom Brady going to pull

2635
02:18:28,680 --> 02:18:33,199
Speaker 1: any punches, He's he gonna be comfortable criticizing these guys, Look,

2636
02:18:33,240 --> 02:18:37,480
Speaker 1: he's not doing the criticism. It's the film. The film

2637
02:18:37,600 --> 02:18:40,120
Speaker 1: tells you who's right or who's wrong. It's like the

2638
02:18:40,120 --> 02:18:43,280
Speaker 1: old saying the eye in the sky never lies. Well,

2639
02:18:43,520 --> 02:18:46,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in this case, is just going to tell you,

2640
02:18:46,840 --> 02:18:51,359
Speaker 1: from an analytical perspective, exactly what should.

2641
02:18:51,160 --> 02:18:53,400
Speaker 4: Happen with the football during the course of a game.

2642
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:56,879
Speaker 1: And if a quarterback or a receiver, or a tight

2643
02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:59,480
Speaker 1: end or a running back, or an offensive lineman or

2644
02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:04,600
Speaker 1: a defense of tackle, defensive end, linebacker, nickel, nickel back,

2645
02:19:05,080 --> 02:19:09,000
Speaker 1: slot defender, corner safety is out of place or doing

2646
02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:10,240
Speaker 1: the wrong thing, he'll.

2647
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:11,359
Speaker 4: Be able to tell you why.

2648
02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:13,840
Speaker 1: And guess what, when that player goes back to the

2649
02:19:13,879 --> 02:19:16,280
Speaker 1: film study room, his coach is going to be saying

2650
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:19,280
Speaker 1: the exact same thing to him. So yeah, I think

2651
02:19:19,320 --> 02:19:21,920
Speaker 1: he's going to be comfortable as hell criticizing players.

2652
02:19:22,160 --> 02:19:22,560
Speaker 3: All right.

2653
02:19:22,600 --> 02:19:28,920
Speaker 2: So Tom Brady's broadcasting debut with Fox will be the

2654
02:19:28,959 --> 02:19:32,360
Speaker 2: matchup between the Cowboys and the Browns I believe, is

2655
02:19:32,400 --> 02:19:36,400
Speaker 2: that right? Cowboys and the Browns. Well, there's a lot

2656
02:19:36,440 --> 02:19:38,480
Speaker 2: of meat on the bone with the Cowboys as they're not.

2657
02:19:38,800 --> 02:19:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's quite a bit.

2658
02:19:40,800 --> 02:19:43,879
Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, I mean, both these quarterbacks.

2659
02:19:43,879 --> 02:19:48,879
Speaker 2: When you think about Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott, man,

2660
02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:49,879
Speaker 2: there's a.

2661
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:50,320
Speaker 3: Lot to do.

2662
02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:54,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I and I just wonder if I mean,

2663
02:19:54,520 --> 02:19:57,920
Speaker 2: let's say, let's say, I mean, you go into that game,

2664
02:19:57,959 --> 02:20:01,360
Speaker 2: You're thinking, all right, Cowboys, but where is that game?

2665
02:20:01,640 --> 02:20:05,039
Speaker 3: Zach game in Cleveland? Or it is in Cleveland?

2666
02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:05,360
Speaker 1: Right?

2667
02:20:05,720 --> 02:20:07,039
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2668
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:09,119
Speaker 2: But I mean on the surface, I mean, you're you're

2669
02:20:09,160 --> 02:20:11,119
Speaker 2: thinking the Cowboys going as the favorite.

2670
02:20:11,879 --> 02:20:14,879
Speaker 1: I would say so, yes, but.

2671
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:18,320
Speaker 2: Just imagine, and it's very conceivable because the Browns obviously

2672
02:20:18,360 --> 02:20:21,240
Speaker 2: have a pretty good defense, to say the least. Dak

2673
02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:28,000
Speaker 2: Prescott has a rough day on the road, right, and

2674
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:30,480
Speaker 2: and it's just a bad day at the office. Let's

2675
02:20:30,480 --> 02:20:33,160
Speaker 2: say his first game of the season against the Browns

2676
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:35,400
Speaker 2: resembles his playoff game against the Packers.

2677
02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:39,360
Speaker 3: Sure, how old Tom Brady handled that.

2678
02:20:39,840 --> 02:20:42,800
Speaker 1: My guess is he's going to be able to better

2679
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:46,800
Speaker 1: than almost anybody who's ever done it. Get into the

2680
02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:51,760
Speaker 1: head of the competitor who maybe misses some early shots.

2681
02:20:51,800 --> 02:20:54,800
Speaker 1: Like so, let's let's face it. Part of it is

2682
02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:59,320
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks preparation. Part of it is your the opponent's

2683
02:20:59,360 --> 02:21:03,360
Speaker 1: defense prep and part of it is the preparation of

2684
02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:05,640
Speaker 1: the tools you have around you on the offense that

2685
02:21:05,680 --> 02:21:09,360
Speaker 1: you're quarterbacking for. So he'll first be able to tell

2686
02:21:09,400 --> 02:21:12,640
Speaker 1: you what's happening, Like, so, is it the defense, did

2687
02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:15,400
Speaker 1: they scheme up something that's really attacking what the Cowboys

2688
02:21:15,440 --> 02:21:18,680
Speaker 1: do best? Is that the reason why Dak struggling? Is

2689
02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:22,600
Speaker 1: it Dak's preparation. Does he look uncomfortable? Is there something

2690
02:21:22,640 --> 02:21:25,720
Speaker 1: wrong with his mechanics or footwork. Is it something that

2691
02:21:25,920 --> 02:21:28,320
Speaker 1: a tight end or a receiver or a group of

2692
02:21:28,320 --> 02:21:31,760
Speaker 1: offensive skill position players are doing wrong? You know, are

2693
02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:34,640
Speaker 1: they instituting maybe a new scheme that they're uncomfortable with

2694
02:21:34,959 --> 02:21:38,720
Speaker 1: and they're showing some of those growing pains, you know,

2695
02:21:38,840 --> 02:21:42,160
Speaker 1: because obviously this is only year two since McCarthy has

2696
02:21:42,200 --> 02:21:45,480
Speaker 1: taken over the offense, and maybe there's more install this offseason.

2697
02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:49,879
Speaker 1: So there's a lot that he'll be able to tell

2698
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:52,960
Speaker 1: you about a quarterback's hard day at the office.

2699
02:21:53,160 --> 02:21:54,640
Speaker 4: That's going to lend more nuance to.

2700
02:21:54,640 --> 02:21:58,240
Speaker 1: The picture, whereas typically we usually just hear from broadcasters

2701
02:21:58,280 --> 02:22:01,320
Speaker 1: and even some who used to play the position. Yeah, look,

2702
02:22:01,360 --> 02:22:04,199
Speaker 1: you know, he's just completely out of sync with his receivers,

2703
02:22:04,200 --> 02:22:06,440
Speaker 1: and it's just like, yeah, well thanks, I can tell you.

2704
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:09,000
Speaker 1: I could tell that, you know, whether you have any

2705
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:10,000
Speaker 1: football knowledge or not.

2706
02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:14,200
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing, obviously is in the past with

2707
02:22:14,360 --> 02:22:18,119
Speaker 2: Joe Buck and Troy Aikman and Kevin Burkhard, who obviously

2708
02:22:18,160 --> 02:22:19,560
Speaker 2: is going to be working with Tom Brady.

2709
02:22:20,080 --> 02:22:23,480
Speaker 3: All of them were regulars on this very show.

2710
02:22:23,520 --> 02:22:25,880
Speaker 2: But are we expecting that Tom Brady is going to

2711
02:22:25,959 --> 02:22:29,080
Speaker 2: be a regular contributor? You too as own radio.

2712
02:22:29,160 --> 02:22:30,959
Speaker 11: Yeah, you read my mind, Steve. I was going to say,

2713
02:22:30,959 --> 02:22:32,320
Speaker 11: be careful what you say, because we are trying to

2714
02:22:32,320 --> 02:22:33,600
Speaker 11: get Tom Brady on this show.

2715
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:37,240
Speaker 2: Well that's why I'm very curious and and I would

2716
02:22:37,320 --> 02:22:41,480
Speaker 2: imagine especially if you mentioned, look, you know, probably your

2717
02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:43,879
Speaker 2: favorite teammate you ever had, Rich Ormane.

2718
02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:44,080
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2719
02:22:44,120 --> 02:22:45,960
Speaker 11: No, that's what if anything would help us, it's having

2720
02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:48,000
Speaker 11: a former teammate of Tom Brady on this show. So

2721
02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:49,279
Speaker 11: if there's one of those.

2722
02:22:49,520 --> 02:22:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, we've had great stuff, you know,

2723
02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:58,400
Speaker 2: Joe and Troy were super Kevin Burkhart great guy. So yeah,

2724
02:22:58,440 --> 02:23:01,359
Speaker 2: I mean I would I would hope, you know, Aaron Andrews.

2725
02:23:01,360 --> 02:23:04,520
Speaker 2: I mean, we've had many members of the top Fox

2726
02:23:04,600 --> 02:23:08,320
Speaker 2: Sports football team on the show, so we expect Tom

2727
02:23:08,360 --> 02:23:10,080
Speaker 2: Brady then, whether they like it or not.

2728
02:23:10,320 --> 02:23:12,000
Speaker 11: What I'm trying to say is, Monsei, you shoot that

2729
02:23:12,040 --> 02:23:13,359
Speaker 11: text to Tom Brady.

2730
02:23:13,520 --> 02:23:14,040
Speaker 1: Make it happen.

2731
02:23:14,680 --> 02:23:16,039
Speaker 3: Well, maybe she can make that happen.

2732
02:23:16,120 --> 02:23:19,560
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is a trending right now?

2733
02:23:20,840 --> 02:23:23,520
Speaker 2: And so Montsy, we're talking about Tom Brady being a

2734
02:23:23,560 --> 02:23:27,000
Speaker 2: regular on Red Zone Radio. Of course, just like Joe

2735
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:29,640
Speaker 2: Buck used to be, and Troy Aikman and Kevin Burkhard

2736
02:23:29,720 --> 02:23:31,400
Speaker 2: and Aaron Andrews, all of them have been on the

2737
02:23:31,400 --> 02:23:32,600
Speaker 2: show many many times.

2738
02:23:32,920 --> 02:23:35,199
Speaker 3: So tom Brady's on that same broadcast team.

2739
02:23:35,400 --> 02:23:38,480
Speaker 8: I don't see how we don't make this happen. Especially

2740
02:23:38,600 --> 02:23:39,640
Speaker 8: Rich just text.

2741
02:23:39,400 --> 02:23:40,520
Speaker 2: Him, do you do you know.

2742
02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:42,360
Speaker 1: Him?

2743
02:23:42,520 --> 02:23:45,640
Speaker 2: If we if we have the first time I'm already

2744
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:47,520
Speaker 2: test the first time we have Tom Brady.

2745
02:23:47,520 --> 02:23:49,360
Speaker 3: Would you like to chime in with a question to

2746
02:23:49,560 --> 02:23:50,160
Speaker 3: Tom Brady?

2747
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:52,800
Speaker 7: Yes, I would like to ask him how he doesn't

2748
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:53,640
Speaker 7: like tomatoes?

2749
02:23:54,080 --> 02:23:55,960
Speaker 2: Okay, very good. I think he would enjoy that.

2750
02:23:56,120 --> 02:23:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeh.

2751
02:23:56,440 --> 02:23:58,200
Speaker 2: I think if we keep it light, it's going to

2752
02:23:58,320 --> 02:23:59,040
Speaker 2: really work well.

2753
02:23:59,040 --> 02:24:02,080
Speaker 1: With a new study out tomatoes apparently the lyycopene and

2754
02:24:02,200 --> 02:24:08,320
Speaker 1: tomatoes can drastically reduce prostate cancer risks. Yeah, So.

2755
02:24:10,120 --> 02:24:12,199
Speaker 11: What it is is if he has tomato. That doesn't

2756
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:13,840
Speaker 11: leave room for the one almond he can have.

2757
02:24:14,040 --> 02:24:17,520
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, no, apparently he thinks tomato, the citrus of

2758
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:19,080
Speaker 7: tomato causes inflammation.

2759
02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:21,440
Speaker 8: So really I just wonder, like, how does he not

2760
02:24:21,480 --> 02:24:22,039
Speaker 8: have pizza?

2761
02:24:22,400 --> 02:24:22,600
Speaker 1: Well?

2762
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:24,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's really what I want to know.

2763
02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:26,000
Speaker 4: It's all the night shade.

2764
02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:29,840
Speaker 1: I read up on the TV twelve method and apparently

2765
02:24:30,040 --> 02:24:34,279
Speaker 1: he stays away from like all night shade vegetables and fruits.

2766
02:24:34,320 --> 02:24:35,360
Speaker 4: So no eggplant.

2767
02:24:35,440 --> 02:24:39,039
Speaker 2: No, But are you who is worried about inflammation not

2768
02:24:39,080 --> 02:24:41,480
Speaker 2: playing football as when you were playing football?

2769
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:44,680
Speaker 1: See, like that's a great question for tom not for me.

2770
02:24:44,920 --> 02:24:50,160
Speaker 2: I mean, does your physical fitness regiment as a broadcaster?

2771
02:24:51,320 --> 02:24:53,120
Speaker 3: Has it changed at all since you were a player.

2772
02:24:53,200 --> 02:24:54,240
Speaker 8: Well, he's going to come back.

2773
02:24:54,560 --> 02:24:55,880
Speaker 2: I do you see all these questions.

2774
02:24:55,920 --> 02:24:58,280
Speaker 3: I cannot wait for his first appearance on the show.

2775
02:24:58,400 --> 02:25:01,360
Speaker 1: Same here, same here, and and I think we'll cover

2776
02:25:01,400 --> 02:25:06,200
Speaker 1: it all. We probably won't talk any Browns or Cowboys.

2777
02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:10,160
Speaker 3: That's another game. What's happening out there?

2778
02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:10,440
Speaker 1: Mine?

2779
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:12,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, let me tell you what's happening. How about we

2780
02:25:12,680 --> 02:25:15,840
Speaker 8: start with the Little League World Series. Guys, there's elimination

2781
02:25:16,040 --> 02:25:16,840
Speaker 8: games happening.

2782
02:25:17,160 --> 02:25:21,560
Speaker 7: Mexico has eliminated Canada eight zero was a final. New

2783
02:25:21,640 --> 02:25:24,959
Speaker 7: York has eliminated Illinois for zero. Two other games that

2784
02:25:25,000 --> 02:25:28,680
Speaker 7: are on a rain delay, but Pennsylvania beating Washington eleven

2785
02:25:28,720 --> 02:25:32,520
Speaker 7: to two, and Aruba is on top of Australia three zero,

2786
02:25:32,560 --> 02:25:35,920
Speaker 7: but both those in this Little League World Series elimination game.

2787
02:25:35,959 --> 02:25:37,959
Speaker 8: Both of those are on a rain delay.

2788
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:40,760
Speaker 7: In baseball, the Nationals have taken the lead over the

2789
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:44,160
Speaker 7: Phillies six to four bottom of the ninth inning in Philadelphia.

2790
02:25:44,560 --> 02:25:47,360
Speaker 7: The Diamondbacks have come back to tie the game against

2791
02:25:47,360 --> 02:25:47,879
Speaker 7: the Rays.

2792
02:25:47,959 --> 02:25:50,039
Speaker 8: It's sixty six, also bottom of the ninth.

2793
02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:52,240
Speaker 7: In Tampa, the Royal is still on top of the

2794
02:25:52,280 --> 02:25:54,160
Speaker 7: Reds for to one bottom of the seventh, but the

2795
02:25:54,200 --> 02:25:57,240
Speaker 7: Reds do have the bases loaded. The Dodgers holding onto

2796
02:25:57,240 --> 02:25:58,960
Speaker 7: their lead over the Cardinals two to one, top of

2797
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:00,760
Speaker 7: the ninth Innies show Hey Tawny did hit.

2798
02:26:00,720 --> 02:26:02,440
Speaker 8: Home run number thirty nine on the season.

2799
02:26:02,680 --> 02:26:04,680
Speaker 7: The Blue Jays up on the Cubs one zero bottom

2800
02:26:04,720 --> 02:26:07,240
Speaker 7: of the eighth, All twins against the Rangers for zero.

2801
02:26:07,520 --> 02:26:09,840
Speaker 8: Top of the seventh. The Padres and the Rockies are

2802
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:10,920
Speaker 8: tied at one apiece.

2803
02:26:11,040 --> 02:26:13,360
Speaker 7: The Braves on top of the Angels one zero, both

2804
02:26:13,400 --> 02:26:16,160
Speaker 7: of the Padres Rocky's bottom of the fifth, Braves Angels

2805
02:26:16,160 --> 02:26:19,439
Speaker 7: bottom of the second in LA games have wrapped up Marlins.

2806
02:26:19,440 --> 02:26:21,879
Speaker 7: They beat the Mets three to two, Orioles took down

2807
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Speaker 7: the Red Sox for two.

2808
02:26:23,360 --> 02:26:24,360
Speaker 8: Mariners all over.

2809
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:27,400
Speaker 7: The Pirates ten to three, Astros with the two zero

2810
02:26:27,560 --> 02:26:29,720
Speaker 7: win over the White Sox just like the Brewers who

2811
02:26:29,720 --> 02:26:33,160
Speaker 7: beat the Guardians to zero in the NFL. The preseason

2812
02:26:33,160 --> 02:26:36,080
Speaker 7: action continues later today fell as a double header, Packers

2813
02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:38,480
Speaker 7: taking on the Broncos forty nine Ers hosting the Saints.

2814
02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:40,400
Speaker 8: Both games are gonna kick off at eight Eastern.

2815
02:26:40,600 --> 02:26:43,080
Speaker 7: The Raiders know who their starting quarterback is going to

2816
02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:44,959
Speaker 7: be for a Week one against the Chargers. They have

2817
02:26:45,080 --> 02:26:48,800
Speaker 7: named Gardner Minshew as their starting quarterback, and the Minnesota

2818
02:26:48,879 --> 02:26:51,920
Speaker 7: Vikings are signing five time Pro Bowl quarterbacks Stefon Gilmour

2819
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:54,800
Speaker 7: to a one year, ten million dollar meal.

2820
02:26:55,320 --> 02:26:55,840
Speaker 8: Back to you.

2821
02:26:55,800 --> 02:26:58,039
Speaker 3: Guys, mony tremendous stuff.

2822
02:26:57,800 --> 02:27:01,560
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2823
02:27:01,600 --> 02:27:04,440
Speaker 2: after our show, our podcast is going up. If you

2824
02:27:04,520 --> 02:27:08,120
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2825
02:27:08,200 --> 02:27:11,400
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02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:17,280
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2828
02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:20,440
Speaker 2: your podcasts, and you'll see this show posted right after

2829
02:27:20,520 --> 02:27:25,039
Speaker 2: we get off the air. Let's say, yeah, so this

2830
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:27,000
Speaker 2: is all exciting stuff that's going to be coming up

2831
02:27:27,040 --> 02:27:29,520
Speaker 2: in the next few weeks, so be prepared for that.

2832
02:27:30,160 --> 02:27:33,400
Speaker 2: Look at as far as Brady as a broadcaster, this

2833
02:27:33,440 --> 02:27:37,520
Speaker 2: guy doesn't do anything half assed. He's gonna give, he's

2834
02:27:37,560 --> 02:27:41,160
Speaker 2: gonna be ready. He's really had an extra year to prepare.

2835
02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:47,600
Speaker 2: But still now there's still confusion about his ownership situation.

2836
02:27:47,240 --> 02:27:49,240
Speaker 3: With the Silver and Black, right right?

2837
02:27:50,200 --> 02:27:53,840
Speaker 2: And if he were to officially take on that title

2838
02:27:54,680 --> 02:27:58,000
Speaker 2: a with that allow him to broadcast any game involving

2839
02:27:58,000 --> 02:27:58,959
Speaker 2: the Raiders.

2840
02:28:00,520 --> 02:28:01,879
Speaker 3: Or would that be off limits?

2841
02:28:02,120 --> 02:28:04,480
Speaker 4: Okay, let me if you actually have an.

2842
02:28:04,400 --> 02:28:06,640
Speaker 3: Ownership stake in the team, I.

2843
02:28:06,640 --> 02:28:11,320
Speaker 1: Would say due to conflict of interest, if a network

2844
02:28:11,480 --> 02:28:16,800
Speaker 1: wanted to appear unbiased in their approach to coverage of

2845
02:28:16,879 --> 02:28:20,879
Speaker 1: any game, they would most likely keep him off of

2846
02:28:21,080 --> 02:28:22,199
Speaker 1: any team he had.

2847
02:28:22,080 --> 02:28:23,160
Speaker 4: An ownership stake in.

2848
02:28:23,520 --> 02:28:26,039
Speaker 1: I think it would be interesting to have him cover

2849
02:28:26,360 --> 02:28:29,440
Speaker 1: teams that he played for, namely the Patriots and the

2850
02:28:29,440 --> 02:28:32,400
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But I do think that if you

2851
02:28:32,440 --> 02:28:35,240
Speaker 1: have an ownership stake, even if it's a small one

2852
02:28:35,360 --> 02:28:36,920
Speaker 1: in any team, they would keep you off up.

2853
02:28:36,959 --> 02:28:38,560
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if he did a Raider game and

2854
02:28:38,600 --> 02:28:40,480
Speaker 2: they were down thirty five to nothing at halftime.

2855
02:28:41,000 --> 02:28:44,240
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and he was just like, listen, I think

2856
02:28:44,280 --> 02:28:47,640
Speaker 1: we gotta comeback. Story on our hands. I got to

2857
02:28:47,720 --> 02:28:52,080
Speaker 1: run down to the he pulls a headset off and

2858
02:28:52,120 --> 02:28:54,560
Speaker 1: he's just screaming at people at halftime. Do you have

2859
02:28:54,600 --> 02:28:55,640
Speaker 1: any head down? Stupid?

2860
02:28:55,720 --> 02:28:58,560
Speaker 2: You're making me look Gardner, bitch, you give me that football.

2861
02:28:58,680 --> 02:28:59,520
Speaker 4: I'm going out there.

2862
02:28:59,560 --> 02:29:03,080
Speaker 3: Give me your Well. See, that's the whole point.

2863
02:29:03,360 --> 02:29:06,680
Speaker 2: As we go into this season, it really is remarkable

2864
02:29:07,400 --> 02:29:09,680
Speaker 2: just how many teams are still very much up in

2865
02:29:09,720 --> 02:29:12,800
Speaker 2: the air with their quarterback position. I mean, obviously we

2866
02:29:12,879 --> 02:29:15,560
Speaker 2: have teams right now, all right. I mean one team

2867
02:29:15,560 --> 02:29:17,920
Speaker 2: we have not talked about. We mentioned earlier about the

2868
02:29:18,040 --> 02:29:23,160
Speaker 2: unfortunate injury that ended JJ McCarthy's season. The Vikings immediately

2869
02:29:23,160 --> 02:29:27,120
Speaker 2: got the guy they needed, Matt corral To, who was

2870
02:29:27,280 --> 02:29:32,520
Speaker 2: last seen I believe in the UFL, Sam Donald.

2871
02:29:32,800 --> 02:29:34,640
Speaker 3: I mean we you know, we were talking, you know,

2872
02:29:34,640 --> 02:29:35,560
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks.

2873
02:29:35,680 --> 02:29:38,320
Speaker 2: How long will it take before they handed off from

2874
02:29:38,400 --> 02:29:40,119
Speaker 2: Sam Donald? To JJ McCarthy.

2875
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

2876
02:29:41,360 --> 02:29:43,680
Speaker 2: Well we know the answer to that is no, sooner

2877
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:47,720
Speaker 2: than twenty twenty five. Yes, So now Sam Donald is

2878
02:29:47,800 --> 02:29:50,160
Speaker 2: the guy I think about this.

2879
02:29:50,200 --> 02:29:52,560
Speaker 3: I mean, is Sam Donald you like Gino Smith?

2880
02:29:52,600 --> 02:29:56,560
Speaker 2: I mean, could we see Sam Donald do what I

2881
02:29:56,600 --> 02:29:59,879
Speaker 2: don't know Baker Mayfield did in Tampa last year?

2882
02:30:00,160 --> 02:30:04,560
Speaker 1: That's the Those are two other good comparisons, especially since

2883
02:30:04,640 --> 02:30:09,000
Speaker 1: both of those guys had season long breakouts, yeah, later

2884
02:30:09,080 --> 02:30:13,320
Speaker 1: in their careers. I made the comparison and we put

2885
02:30:13,320 --> 02:30:16,800
Speaker 1: this up on Instagram at Fox Sports Radio, and this

2886
02:30:16,959 --> 02:30:20,280
Speaker 1: was on yesterday's show Countdown to Kickoff of Nick Foles.

2887
02:30:20,879 --> 02:30:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you have a sage sure where.

2888
02:30:23,440 --> 02:30:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the Eagles And actually, oddly, since we're transitioning

2889
02:30:27,360 --> 02:30:30,280
Speaker 1: from talking about Tom Brady, that was the Super Bowl

2890
02:30:30,280 --> 02:30:33,520
Speaker 1: that Nick Foles outdueled the goat for the win.

2891
02:30:33,920 --> 02:30:35,000
Speaker 3: You know, deserve it.

2892
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:41,080
Speaker 1: MVP, So you have these situations where obviously.

2893
02:30:42,040 --> 02:30:43,680
Speaker 4: You don't root for an injury.

2894
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:46,600
Speaker 1: You don't want to see Carson Wentz's knee go out

2895
02:30:46,680 --> 02:30:49,600
Speaker 1: during an MVP type of season. You don't want to

2896
02:30:49,640 --> 02:30:53,279
Speaker 1: see JJ McCarthy have a meniscus tear that requires season

2897
02:30:53,360 --> 02:30:58,519
Speaker 1: ending surgery and recovery. But when you have an opportunity,

2898
02:30:58,560 --> 02:31:02,200
Speaker 1: which unfortunately an injury is, and it's paired with talent,

2899
02:31:02,480 --> 02:31:07,400
Speaker 1: which obviously Sam Darnold has some talent, and if it's

2900
02:31:07,480 --> 02:31:12,480
Speaker 1: mixed with preparation, I mean, greatness is a three way

2901
02:31:12,520 --> 02:31:17,000
Speaker 1: merge when you have those three things funneling funneling in

2902
02:31:17,360 --> 02:31:20,880
Speaker 1: if he's prepared enough and he stays healthy obviously and

2903
02:31:20,959 --> 02:31:24,200
Speaker 1: all those things. And the Vikings have talent around him,

2904
02:31:24,320 --> 02:31:27,560
Speaker 1: which they do with Justin Jefferson, and they signed Aaron

2905
02:31:27,680 --> 02:31:30,840
Speaker 1: Jones and Jordan Addison is a heck of a player,

2906
02:31:30,879 --> 02:31:33,680
Speaker 1: and they have help at tight end coming when Hawkinson

2907
02:31:33,720 --> 02:31:37,760
Speaker 1: gets back from his knee tair at some point I'm

2908
02:31:37,800 --> 02:31:40,800
Speaker 1: assuming in the middle of the season. I mean, the

2909
02:31:40,920 --> 02:31:44,080
Speaker 1: Vikings are strong offensive team, and it comes down to

2910
02:31:44,600 --> 02:31:46,680
Speaker 1: how prepared is Donald for the limelight.

2911
02:31:47,080 --> 02:31:49,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, let's put it this way.

2912
02:31:49,440 --> 02:31:51,560
Speaker 2: Did it make a difference for to a tongue of

2913
02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:55,360
Speaker 2: Bila to get Tyreek Hill? Oh yeah, So I'm saying

2914
02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:59,680
Speaker 2: you got Justin Jefferson, who I still believe is the

2915
02:31:59,720 --> 02:32:04,039
Speaker 2: most talented wide receiver in the NFL, not Marvin Harrison Junior. Well,

2916
02:32:04,040 --> 02:32:07,760
Speaker 2: we'll see. And by the way, there's a lot of

2917
02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:10,640
Speaker 2: buzz obviously with the but I mean look at I mean,

2918
02:32:11,200 --> 02:32:14,280
Speaker 2: you know, Jamar Chase, I mean, obviously Tiger Hill. There's

2919
02:32:14,280 --> 02:32:16,320
Speaker 2: a lot of great receivers in this league. I don't

2920
02:32:16,360 --> 02:32:19,560
Speaker 2: think any are better than Justin Jefferson. And they've asked

2921
02:32:19,640 --> 02:32:22,640
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson now that it's clear that Sam Donald will

2922
02:32:22,680 --> 02:32:24,560
Speaker 2: be the guy, and he's like, I'm good with him.

2923
02:32:24,840 --> 02:32:27,959
Speaker 2: You know, just give me the ball, give me the ball.

2924
02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:31,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'll do the rest. You just look at.

2925
02:32:31,520 --> 02:32:34,200
Speaker 2: The thing for Sam Donald is simple. He's got to

2926
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:37,920
Speaker 2: stay in his lane, because that's been the problem with

2927
02:32:37,920 --> 02:32:41,360
Speaker 2: Sam Donald, going back to those days at USC, trying to

2928
02:32:41,440 --> 02:32:44,840
Speaker 2: do too much out there, trying to extend plays and

2929
02:32:44,920 --> 02:32:48,480
Speaker 2: make the superhero plays, which occasionally you do, but more

2930
02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:50,720
Speaker 2: often than not it ends up with a turnover.

2931
02:32:51,120 --> 02:32:52,800
Speaker 3: And that's what he was in college.

2932
02:32:52,520 --> 02:32:55,120
Speaker 2: And unfortunately in the NFL as well. But it's a

2933
02:32:55,160 --> 02:32:58,680
Speaker 2: better situation than he had with the Jets, and better

2934
02:32:58,760 --> 02:33:02,240
Speaker 2: situation than he had in Carolina. And then he gets

2935
02:33:02,280 --> 02:33:04,240
Speaker 2: to you know, sort of city here with the forty

2936
02:33:04,360 --> 02:33:09,360
Speaker 2: nine ers, you know, to sort of see how it's done. Right. Yeah,

2937
02:33:09,600 --> 02:33:11,440
Speaker 2: I think I think he could be a big surprise

2938
02:33:11,600 --> 02:33:13,520
Speaker 2: comeback player of the year. I don't see that.

2939
02:33:13,640 --> 02:33:14,800
Speaker 1: I never I didn't.

2940
02:33:14,600 --> 02:33:16,840
Speaker 2: Understand the comeback player of the year when Gino Smith

2941
02:33:17,160 --> 02:33:19,760
Speaker 2: one comeback player of the year, because I'm like, come

2942
02:33:19,800 --> 02:33:20,279
Speaker 2: back from.

2943
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:22,760
Speaker 4: What, well, from obscurity?

2944
02:33:22,959 --> 02:33:26,640
Speaker 2: Well, I no, comeback player of the year is you've

2945
02:33:26,760 --> 02:33:30,080
Speaker 2: had to been done something, then you threat of a reason,

2946
02:33:30,200 --> 02:33:33,840
Speaker 2: injury or whatever, you fall off, and then you come back.

2947
02:33:34,360 --> 02:33:34,560
Speaker 4: Right.

2948
02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:37,560
Speaker 1: No, I get the heart, the heart of the you

2949
02:33:37,600 --> 02:33:37,920
Speaker 1: could have.

2950
02:33:37,959 --> 02:33:40,480
Speaker 3: Most improved player, but I don't get the comeback.

2951
02:33:40,879 --> 02:33:44,640
Speaker 1: Well. Look, I would say this if Sam Darnold, especially

2952
02:33:44,800 --> 02:33:47,640
Speaker 1: because of the journey he's been on basically since he's

2953
02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:51,359
Speaker 1: left New York, ends up having that type of season

2954
02:33:51,440 --> 02:33:56,279
Speaker 1: like a Baker Mayfield of twenty twenty three, a Gino

2955
02:33:56,360 --> 02:34:00,480
Speaker 1: Smith of twenty twenty two type of season where all

2956
02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:04,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, either the Vikings themselves or one of

2957
02:34:04,160 --> 02:34:07,560
Speaker 1: these other NFL teams are very interested in signing him

2958
02:34:07,560 --> 02:34:11,160
Speaker 1: to a long term deal or a longer term deal.

2959
02:34:12,200 --> 02:34:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean that is going to be a comeback Player

2960
02:34:14,640 --> 02:34:18,000
Speaker 1: of the Year type of story, because again, you're you're

2961
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:20,760
Speaker 1: reviving a career from complete obscurity.

2962
02:34:20,920 --> 02:34:24,120
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco was a classic comeback Player of the Year.

2963
02:34:24,879 --> 02:34:26,320
Speaker 2: That was a comeback Player of the year.

2964
02:34:26,440 --> 02:34:28,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Super Bowl.

2965
02:34:28,440 --> 02:34:33,280
Speaker 2: MVP completely onto the couch, that's right, and then take

2966
02:34:33,280 --> 02:34:35,800
Speaker 2: a team and lead him to the playoffs. That's comeback players.

2967
02:34:35,800 --> 02:34:40,119
Speaker 1: I'll tell you there are so many angles early angles

2968
02:34:40,160 --> 02:34:40,800
Speaker 1: to discuss.

2969
02:34:41,080 --> 02:34:44,920
Speaker 4: I mean, just think about it. It is August what eighteenth?

2970
02:34:45,040 --> 02:34:45,920
Speaker 4: Is that the day today?

2971
02:34:46,879 --> 02:34:47,039
Speaker 9: Yep?

2972
02:34:47,720 --> 02:34:51,039
Speaker 1: We are still I mean less than but just about

2973
02:34:51,080 --> 02:34:54,480
Speaker 1: three weeks away from kickoff of the football season, and

2974
02:34:54,520 --> 02:34:58,560
Speaker 1: we just spent seven minutes talking about the Minnesota Vikings.

2975
02:34:58,640 --> 02:34:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2976
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we could do the team, every single team.

2977
02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:03,600
Speaker 2: Easy because there's.

2978
02:35:03,400 --> 02:35:05,760
Speaker 4: So many interesting storylines into the season.

2979
02:35:05,800 --> 02:35:07,520
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna tell you what's on the agenda

2980
02:35:07,600 --> 02:35:09,880
Speaker 2: next week. All right, coming up, We'll tell you what's

2981
02:35:09,920 --> 02:35:12,760
Speaker 2: on the agenda next week. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

2982
02:35:13,200 --> 02:35:16,240
Speaker 2: Steve Harvey, rich Ron Berger, Fox Sports Sunday. We're live

2983
02:35:16,240 --> 02:35:20,760
Speaker 2: from the tai IRAQ dot Com studios. We are blessed

2984
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:29,240
Speaker 2: with the greatest supporting cast in Radio Monsey Chris bo Uh.

2985
02:35:29,480 --> 02:35:32,360
Speaker 2: Next week, guys, I believe. So we have week zero

2986
02:35:32,440 --> 02:35:35,640
Speaker 2: next week, rich Uh. So we have a limited games

2987
02:35:35,920 --> 02:35:40,120
Speaker 2: college football on Saturday, and still final week of the

2988
02:35:40,120 --> 02:35:44,720
Speaker 2: preseason for the NFL. The following week will be crazy

2989
02:35:44,760 --> 02:35:48,279
Speaker 2: because we're just gonna have an avalanche of college football

2990
02:35:48,280 --> 02:35:53,080
Speaker 2: Week one. I just overdose, which is good. Yeah, and

2991
02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:55,200
Speaker 2: then we get into the season. So I thought, next

2992
02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:57,040
Speaker 2: week is the time that we need to go on

2993
02:35:57,080 --> 02:36:00,480
Speaker 2: the record for the twenty twenty four season. Right Uh,

2994
02:36:00,720 --> 02:36:03,760
Speaker 2: We're we're going to break down the divisions, wild cards,

2995
02:36:04,920 --> 02:36:07,360
Speaker 2: m vps, the wholes are back. Where were we gonna

2996
02:36:07,400 --> 02:36:10,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna cover it all, all of us here in

2997
02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:14,000
Speaker 2: the show, and UH go on the record. Yeah, you

2998
02:36:15,360 --> 02:36:16,440
Speaker 2: can't go after the fact.

2999
02:36:16,440 --> 02:36:17,200
Speaker 3: Why I told you?

3000
02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:18,080
Speaker 1: Did you?

3001
02:36:18,200 --> 02:36:20,320
Speaker 3: Did you really tell me? Did you tell me?

3002
02:36:20,440 --> 02:36:20,920
Speaker 4: Did you tell me?

3003
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:21,280
Speaker 2: I don't.

3004
02:36:21,280 --> 02:36:22,080
Speaker 3: I don't remember that.

3005
02:36:22,640 --> 02:36:25,200
Speaker 2: We're going to be on the record with all our

3006
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:28,160
Speaker 2: predictions for the upcoming season, so I don't want to

3007
02:36:28,200 --> 02:36:34,440
Speaker 2: waste any of that right now, we do this. Actually,

3008
02:36:34,480 --> 02:36:37,480
Speaker 2: we have a list here in the uh in the

3009
02:36:37,520 --> 02:36:42,480
Speaker 2: control room, that's where everybody comes down and posts things

3010
02:36:42,520 --> 02:36:45,119
Speaker 2: like I did last year predicting in that the the.

3011
02:36:45,120 --> 02:36:47,760
Speaker 3: Rams would be the worst team in the NFL.

3012
02:36:48,040 --> 02:36:50,920
Speaker 10: To be clear and to be transparent, the categories here

3013
02:36:50,920 --> 02:36:55,400
Speaker 10: in the control room are NFC winner, AFC winner, Super

3014
02:36:55,400 --> 02:36:58,920
Speaker 10: Bowl team, worst team in the NFL and out on

3015
02:36:58,959 --> 02:37:01,800
Speaker 10: a limb prediction and MVP.

3016
02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:04,280
Speaker 2: And MVP, right, those are the ones that we make

3017
02:37:04,680 --> 02:37:09,199
Speaker 2: out of the what was you know? So I'm very

3018
02:37:09,440 --> 02:37:12,320
Speaker 2: rarely right on any of that kind of stuff, But

3019
02:37:12,400 --> 02:37:17,199
Speaker 2: I will say this, what's making this season interesting already

3020
02:37:17,240 --> 02:37:22,680
Speaker 2: to me in watching Patrick Mahomes having fun with Kelsey

3021
02:37:22,680 --> 02:37:26,080
Speaker 2: in the game with the behind the back pass. They're

3022
02:37:26,120 --> 02:37:29,920
Speaker 2: the ninth team to the chance to go three Super

3023
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:31,560
Speaker 2: Bowls in a row and no one's done it.

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Speaker 4: That's right, and.

3025
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Speaker 2: You gotta believe that if assuming health obviously is always

3026
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Speaker 2: a factor, but if those two guys are healthy throughout

3027
02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:46,200
Speaker 2: the season, I think it's safe to say they're going.

3028
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Speaker 3: To be a very hard team to beat.

3029
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Speaker 1: I think that is as accurate and appraisal of the

3030
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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs as you could possibly lay out. I mean,

3031
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Speaker 1: regardless of the injury sustained Marquise Brown, or what happens

3032
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Speaker 1: with the development of Xavier Worthy, the draft pickout of Texas,

3033
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Speaker 1: or the storyline as to whether or not or Shehee

3034
02:38:12,680 --> 02:38:15,879
Speaker 1: Rice will serve some sort of suspension for the multiple

3035
02:38:15,959 --> 02:38:20,320
Speaker 1: charges he's facing in Dallas from this offseason accident. Incident

3036
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Speaker 1: that he was involved in, whatever the circumstances, because you

3037
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:28,119
Speaker 1: have those two future Hall of Famers on that roster

3038
02:38:28,320 --> 02:38:31,240
Speaker 1: and that coach. By the way, let's not forget to

3039
02:38:31,280 --> 02:38:34,440
Speaker 1: mention Andy Reid. The Chiefs are at the top of

3040
02:38:34,440 --> 02:38:36,560
Speaker 1: the mountain and everybody is chasing.

3041
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Speaker 2: Well, and I look at it. I know it's comparing

3042
02:38:39,360 --> 02:38:43,240
Speaker 2: individual sport versus a team sport. But you know, like

3043
02:38:43,280 --> 02:38:48,520
Speaker 2: in golf, Jack Nicholas has the records, right, Sure Tiger

3044
02:38:48,560 --> 02:38:51,959
Speaker 2: Woods didn't catch him, but a lot of people will say,

3045
02:38:52,040 --> 02:38:56,920
Speaker 2: but yeah, Tiger at his peak was better, right, And

3046
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Speaker 2: that's what I look at with Tom Brady versus is

3047
02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:02,040
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes.

3048
02:39:02,200 --> 02:39:04,960
Speaker 3: Is Patrick Mahomes going to break seven Super Bowls?

3049
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Speaker 2: Probably not, but at this point of his career, he's

3050
02:39:12,440 --> 02:39:15,320
Speaker 2: had a better career and a similar point of Tom

3051
02:39:15,320 --> 02:39:17,720
Speaker 2: Brady's career. They both had the same number of super

3052
02:39:17,760 --> 02:39:21,640
Speaker 2: Bowl wins. But he's also won multiple MVPs and everything else.

3053
02:39:21,760 --> 02:39:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't predict, you know, is he going

3054
02:39:26,040 --> 02:39:28,039
Speaker 2: to play that long? Will he want to play that long?

3055
02:39:28,120 --> 02:39:30,640
Speaker 2: Can he win that many Super Bowls? But you can

3056
02:39:30,720 --> 02:39:35,720
Speaker 2: make an argument already that Mahomes is the best ever

3057
02:39:36,440 --> 02:39:37,400
Speaker 2: to play that position.

3058
02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:42,360
Speaker 1: You could make that argument, and the scary reality of

3059
02:39:42,440 --> 02:39:45,680
Speaker 1: that argument is he's got so much football left ahead

3060
02:39:45,680 --> 02:39:46,000
Speaker 1: of him.

3061
02:39:46,080 --> 02:39:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3062
02:39:46,600 --> 02:39:50,040
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about Tom Brady that

3063
02:39:50,280 --> 02:39:53,080
Speaker 1: may never be replicated, well, really two things.

3064
02:39:53,200 --> 02:39:54,920
Speaker 4: His durability over.

3065
02:39:54,800 --> 02:39:57,800
Speaker 1: That span of times and his toughness to be able

3066
02:39:57,800 --> 02:40:01,199
Speaker 1: to play in all those games. And also a consistently

3067
02:40:01,360 --> 02:40:05,279
Speaker 1: revolving cast of characters, which you could give Bill Belchik

3068
02:40:05,400 --> 02:40:08,879
Speaker 1: credit for as well, selecting players that matched the style

3069
02:40:08,920 --> 02:40:11,760
Speaker 1: of play in New England for two decades. But he

3070
02:40:11,879 --> 02:40:14,720
Speaker 1: was able to win with anyone he was provided.

3071
02:40:14,760 --> 02:40:18,600
Speaker 2: But already Mahomes you know, crosses because when Tyreek Hill left,

3072
02:40:18,959 --> 02:40:21,240
Speaker 2: I predicted that's the last of Mahomes. And he comes

3073
02:40:21,240 --> 02:40:23,640
Speaker 2: back and wins back to back Super Bowls. Yeah without

3074
02:40:23,640 --> 02:40:26,920
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hills. So and they sort of have a revolving

3075
02:40:26,959 --> 02:40:29,680
Speaker 2: door wide receiver over the last couple of years.

3076
02:40:30,280 --> 02:40:32,800
Speaker 3: And it doesn't seem to remember this team was.

3077
02:40:32,920 --> 02:40:35,520
Speaker 1: Playing two fifteen more years of this.

3078
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Speaker 2: All right, So you have all week to work on this, Okay,

3079
02:40:37,760 --> 02:40:41,880
Speaker 2: like you've got nothing else on your plate, Yeah, nothing

3080
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Speaker 2: else to do. If you need to focus one hundred

3081
02:40:44,600 --> 02:40:47,039
Speaker 2: percent on that more coming up, keep it here.

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