Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that nulture? Yees? Goodness, let's call
Speaker 1: ding dong le. Culture is just calling. How are you feeling?
Speaker 1: I'm feeling, um temperately confused? Yes. Same. We were talking
Speaker 1: about this, okay, because our guests arrived in a scarf,
Speaker 1: and I said, I only came in this. What would
Speaker 1: you call this? Yeah, that's what it's called. What would
Speaker 1: call it that? It's your it's your what was his name?
Speaker 1: Mask drag? I was going to say, it's um this
Speaker 1: this the boy stack house in True Blood. You're doing that?
Speaker 1: You so much? Um? I would say, I feel chapped, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't usually get chapped. I'm extraordinarily chapped. And I
Speaker 1: may I have to apologize to all present. I may
Speaker 1: have to stop an apply chap That's fine, but I'm
Speaker 1: a human being an apply chap. Um beautiful. But this
Speaker 1: is a fabulous episode. Oh my god, what what a
Speaker 1: great episode. This is going to be so good. Okay,
Speaker 1: because there's a Thespian here, a true and we don't
Speaker 1: get many Thespians going through We get a lot of
Speaker 1: comedians who act, which is not and we we we
Speaker 1: had a discussion at length about this. A comedian who
Speaker 1: acts is not necessarily a comedic actor. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Comedic actor, you would, can you?
Speaker 1: That's where you get your Sandra Bullocks. That's where you
Speaker 1: get your Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds is the comedians to act.
Speaker 1: That's where you get your you know miss Schumer's Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel pretty coming out. Wow, let's just go through
Speaker 1: the credit. Let's just go through the card. I want
Speaker 1: to go through each one. And I'm telling you and
Speaker 1: you guys, I am reciting these from memory. Okay, have
Speaker 1: them written down because because but if you have them
Speaker 1: for memory, I believe I could do any anything. I'm
Speaker 1: a fan. Okay, anything you miss you just feel it. Okay.
Speaker 1: First of all, he's returning as the host of the
Speaker 1: Drama Desk Awards for his third time, for the third time,
Speaker 1: and have three costumes, three outfits. I should say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be costume changes. It's gonna be like
Speaker 1: his own concert, Seman checks. So he's returning for that.
Speaker 1: He's nominated for um A Lucille or Tell Award for
Speaker 1: Torch Song, which is coming to Broadway this November. Theater
Speaker 1: and theater honey, oh my god. And also he's Jack
Speaker 1: the way you know what played at the Helen Hayes
Speaker 1: What Payed It did, which was a formative engraced by
Speaker 1: many a brilliant performance. Oh my god, Oh I fucking
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about Sanna. Okay, um, you're you're so right.
Speaker 1: I still have my playball. Um. Oh my nob When
Speaker 1: it started and Shann Jackson was sneeling on the stage
Speaker 1: doing whatever he was, I was like, this is good.
Speaker 1: This is an interesting way to start the program. I
Speaker 1: loved it when Jackie, when Jackie Hoff and Marie Testa
Speaker 1: came out and just belted in everyone's face. Mary Testa,
Speaker 1: it's real culture number seventeen, Mary Testa, Jackie. You've heard
Speaker 1: us talk about jack. We love jack, We love you Jack.
Speaker 1: You don't know who? What the funk we are? Torch
Speaker 1: song coming to Helen Hayes Theater. You've seen You've also
Speaker 1: seen him on stage Hamlet for the Shakespeare Theater Company,
Speaker 1: The Government Inspector just finished directing the amazing show Bright
Speaker 1: Close in Bold Patterns starting to Nightmare and Jeff Hiller,
Speaker 1: Who's who's terrible? Really? They're both just handfuls and yeah,
Speaker 1: you've seen him on film and TV. Come on, come on,
Speaker 1: you know the big credit, the big credits. Ugly Betty,
Speaker 1: you've got younger, We've got the good wife, and who
Speaker 1: can forget his star turn as Sebastian the Pug and
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Triuahua. He was so gagged to say that
Speaker 1: to you. I was like, I really hope Michael think
Speaker 1: that's funny. I think that's funny. Okay, he did, he did,
Speaker 1: he did, he did? Okay, and please, what do you
Speaker 1: have anything? Did I miss anything? Okay, here we go,
Speaker 1: Please welcome Michael uh. Sebastian was originally named Liberati. I
Speaker 1: guess it was too gay. This is Eraser, this is Araser,
Speaker 1: Liberati ray have its gay name. And as you remember,
Speaker 1: yeah movie, in the movie, wore this like goldle may suit. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was very gay. He was so gay? Why hid it?
Speaker 1: And he had a birthday party? Right, there was a
Speaker 1: birthday party, and then the dog had an event. Guess
Speaker 1: what happened when they made Betteverly Hills Tuawa part two?
Speaker 1: What they killed him? No? I I passed because an idiot. No,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it made money. I mean I didn't make
Speaker 1: any money off. It wasn't very you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like it wasn't like a Pixar movie. It wasn't that
Speaker 1: much money to begin with. But why wouldn't I do that? Literally?
Speaker 1: The first movie took me three? What was the reason
Speaker 1: for passing? Because I'm I'm stupid. My representative told me
Speaker 1: too that. She was like, my representative was like, I
Speaker 1: love her so and I'm still with so. I don't
Speaker 1: want to a gudge, but this is something that I
Speaker 1: think she was wrong about. Wow, it's good to it.
Speaker 1: It's good to have that relationship. She was like, she
Speaker 1: was like, she's British. She was like, only George Lopez
Speaker 1: is returning. She managed to shade George Lopez and like,
Speaker 1: by the way, George Lopez is a big star. A
Speaker 1: lot of people love stop, he's worth the president. Guys
Speaker 1: who were replaced me, SpongeBob SquarePants, the guy who does
Speaker 1: the voice who does that? How did that make you
Speaker 1: feel bad? Very sorry? Like why would I why that was?
Speaker 1: That was? Obviously that job was good enough for famed
Speaker 1: voice actor whose name I don't know, who does I know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fair anyway, Hey, that's That's why I never passed
Speaker 1: on franchises, never passed, never passed on friends. Why would
Speaker 1: I not do? It was a straight it was straight
Speaker 1: to video back when there was video. But so yeah,
Speaker 1: like my voice acting career took off after that, and
Speaker 1: I was you will get your voice acting break yet, yes,
Speaker 1: I was watching. Actually do you remember when they did
Speaker 1: like Shrek seventeen and like all the ladies weren't like
Speaker 1: my Rudolph was in it. Amy Sideris was in it.
Speaker 1: Like there was like all of them and they were
Speaker 1: all being interviewed at once, and the interviewer just goes, so,
Speaker 1: what did you learn doing this movie? And Amy Sadares,
Speaker 1: without missing a beat, goes that there's money and voiceover,
Speaker 1: and then they all cracked up and they were just
Speaker 1: like it looked really funny. It almost made me see
Speaker 1: the movie. But it was like the nineteen tracks, A
Speaker 1: lot of trecks. There's a lot of a lot of track.
Speaker 1: After Shrek two, I was like, it wasn't Shrek two
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, like brilliant it was Shrek two.
Speaker 1: Shrek was like, yeah, Shrek and then was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it gave ever to gig He played the
Speaker 1: group whatever the gig. And then was Puss in boots?
Speaker 1: Wasn't that? Yeah? And then who played the unfairy god? No,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I know that she was an ab
Speaker 1: fab talking about jen Jennifer Egan. No, No, she's a novelist,
Speaker 1: um Daisy Egan something Jennifer Jennifer, Jennifer Flowers. She was fabulous,
Speaker 1: holding out for a hero that was That was a
Speaker 1: great she was good, was great. Great. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: My thing with animated movies always is if they're not musicals,
Speaker 1: I can't fully love them. I love a good animated music. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I mean like there was like the Doulach song, which
Speaker 1: I think I rewinded a million times. See, I told
Speaker 1: you this letter because the temperature is confusing. It's temporarily confusing.
Speaker 1: Michael is taking off his sweater. I do you regret
Speaker 1: the scar from earlier or No, looked good. It was
Speaker 1: cold outside, although it wasn't cold in the subway. You know. No,
Speaker 1: it's so hot and and the m t a is
Speaker 1: is a disaster. It's crazy. You don't they don't they
Speaker 1: like put heat on. No, it's they No one gets it. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's actually really called number fifty six. No one
Speaker 1: gets it but in this but we're talking about the
Speaker 1: m T A now, right, But I am off the
Speaker 1: best train in the city which one seven. It is
Speaker 1: the dream. But unless you're going to someplace on st
Speaker 1: you have to transfer. Well that is true, but then
Speaker 1: you can at least have your pick of which one
Speaker 1: you transfer, So anyone that ends up on the sea
Speaker 1: you can get to anything. Really, I mean, like, I
Speaker 1: think the second best train is the one to three
Speaker 1: or that line the two three baby that you are
Speaker 1: flying through the city in the metropolitan area. It's so
Speaker 1: interesting to hear you talk speaking these terms because I
Speaker 1: I live right by here. I'm by any train, so
Speaker 1: I just think of all trains as equal. I don't
Speaker 1: do this sort of favoritism thing. Do you find that
Speaker 1: the trains are all working poorly? They're all working poorly,
Speaker 1: and everyone's being in Everyone today in particular, was being
Speaker 1: an asshole. And I don't want to get into it.
Speaker 1: They're not worth the time, they're worth it. Look tired
Speaker 1: of being a disaster. Okay, what are we voting for, Cynthia?
Speaker 1: I think I'm voting for Cynthia. I'm not registered in
Speaker 1: New York. I don't know. I can't do it. I
Speaker 1: think I might. It's hard. It's hard because it was like,
Speaker 1: it's like all the of all the people I want
Speaker 1: to see taken out of office, it's like Almo is
Speaker 1: not really one of them, I know, And this is
Speaker 1: the option that we're presented. Yeah, And I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: I mean, I would love to get behind her, but
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure that that's a that's fair, that's
Speaker 1: a fight that needed to be fun. Although the m
Speaker 1: t A is a total disaster and this seems to
Speaker 1: be quite a bit of corruption up there too. But
Speaker 1: she today posted, um, I have been asking me about
Speaker 1: my views on marijuana. Legalize it, and I was like
Speaker 1: that John Bayner, former former is now on the board
Speaker 1: of direction directors for this marijuana company, this company that's
Speaker 1: that's advocating for for relegalization of marijuana. Yes. And I
Speaker 1: have a theory about this because he's already been on
Speaker 1: the boards of a lot of tobacco companies, or or
Speaker 1: a Big Tobacco maybe Big Tobacco, one of the tobacco companies,
Speaker 1: And I think that they want to legalized. I think
Speaker 1: the tobacco companies want to legalize and manufacture marijuana cigarettes
Speaker 1: because they see dollar signs, and I'm all about it.
Speaker 1: I'm all about it too. I mean cigarettes cigarettes are bad,
Speaker 1: but marijuana cigarettes sound no. Come on, I think that
Speaker 1: it's time. And sometimes in Colorado at the dispense they
Speaker 1: wrapping in fun little conical shapes and it's gorgeous. What
Speaker 1: you can read like that, like a little like a
Speaker 1: little hand, like a y so you can get the
Speaker 1: esthetic vibe. Yes, I saw in to California next week
Speaker 1: and I haven't been since. It was like, Lee illegal,
Speaker 1: I legal. It would be weird. That's fine. Dispensaries are interesting.
Speaker 1: It's like everyone is very everyone's still the ethos is
Speaker 1: still like shady, we're doing something right, but it's no
Speaker 1: this we're fine. That makes it sexier though, as we
Speaker 1: know lived out there, I got a prescription from some
Speaker 1: shady doctor. I was like, I was like, I hadn't.
Speaker 1: He was like, well, you know, it was clear that
Speaker 1: that's the only reason he went. And he was old.
Speaker 1: He was like an old. It was like Howard Hessman
Speaker 1: from remember Howard Hasman's from w KERP. And he was
Speaker 1: described head of the class. Oh no, no, no, wait
Speaker 1: and he was the clue. He's the he was your
Speaker 1: doctors like him, bitch. He would play him, but it
Speaker 1: would be like him. Now, okay, maybe that wasn't No,
Speaker 1: that's I get. I get. It was a perfect example
Speaker 1: because we had that misunderstanding. I'm sorry. So I loved it.
Speaker 1: I love as my doctor the pot guy. And he
Speaker 1: was like I was. He was like, so, what's wrong?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I get really bad headaches and
Speaker 1: he's like, I can't give it to it for headaches.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn. So I was like, I also
Speaker 1: get canker source and he said okay, and yeah, he
Speaker 1: gave it to me for canker sorece get him all
Speaker 1: the time back to me too. I really does weird
Speaker 1: help for canker source. I was going to say, it
Speaker 1: makes you forget maybe you all the time? I get
Speaker 1: them all? Do you? Is it a stress thing? No?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I get them when I'm
Speaker 1: not stressed. I think it's a I think the stress
Speaker 1: doesn't help. It doesn't help. But for me it's whenever
Speaker 1: ever ever I bite myself. Oh, every time I Cael
Speaker 1: becomes a canker and a bad one in it lasts
Speaker 1: a week see and I think, yeah, it's it's bad
Speaker 1: and they're very painful. You know what helps me? And
Speaker 1: I've been saying this on this podcast because actually there
Speaker 1: was like a three week period where I had them
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't go away. I just go to write
Speaker 1: Aid or Dwyne read and get the canker cover. It's
Speaker 1: like it looks like a little mint and you just
Speaker 1: put it on there. I know it's like store. They
Speaker 1: didn't work for you. It did work, it did help
Speaker 1: the pain, but then you have to be careful around it.
Speaker 1: Here's what you're depending on where it is. If it's
Speaker 1: the teeth. Look, I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it's helped more than I think else and the
Speaker 1: gargling of salt water is a no. Here's what you
Speaker 1: do everyone, I want you to listen very carefully. Go
Speaker 1: to Chinatown. You go up to the rude aloof person
Speaker 1: who's working the counter, a shady ask Chinatown pharmacy. I
Speaker 1: can say this as a Chinese person, but you ask
Speaker 1: for watermelon frost and maybe the person behind the counter
Speaker 1: is going to say, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: But you have to insist on watermelon frost, and by
Speaker 1: the third time, I guarantee they will, they will sort
Speaker 1: of concede and they'll be They'll be Okay, let me
Speaker 1: go get it from the back. It's this little powder puff.
Speaker 1: It's the most bitter, disgusting herbal powder. But you put
Speaker 1: it on the affected area. By the next day, it
Speaker 1: will begin healing. It will begin sort of assembly. I
Speaker 1: have I have boxes of it at home. Just just
Speaker 1: come up and I have a question, why do they
Speaker 1: not want to give it to you the first two times?
Speaker 1: It's not illegal. I think they're just being I think
Speaker 1: they're just being They just recognize that as a place
Speaker 1: where they recognize their position of power, and they want
Speaker 1: to sort of live in that space for a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely no. It's like two dollars, so
Speaker 1: get that. I promise you it works every time I
Speaker 1: swear about it. I want to talk about I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, I just want to say for everyone
Speaker 1: at home who tuned out before or maybe like when
Speaker 1: to go leave the room to do something, and is
Speaker 1: now rejoining us. I don't think marijuana helps for tankerstars,
Speaker 1: because for me, it makes me more sensitive, like when
Speaker 1: I smoke, I get all my sense get sen get heightened.
Speaker 1: And so that means when something is bothering me, Like
Speaker 1: if I have like a stiff neck or something and
Speaker 1: I smoke weed, it actually makes it worse. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's just for me in the same way. Did
Speaker 1: I tell you about this? I told you about this
Speaker 1: myself weekend texted me a picture of a used cartridge.
Speaker 1: Oh she found that, well, my mom found it in
Speaker 1: the laundry when I went home, Like she used vape cartridge.
Speaker 1: I used. I used vape cartridge that I brought to
Speaker 1: the mountains. They went home and visit of my parents.
Speaker 1: But then I also spent a little fun mountain weekend
Speaker 1: with some friends Um and Breckenridge, and then we went
Speaker 1: to dispensery there and then I bought a new cartridge
Speaker 1: and I dumped the old one, but I just shoved
Speaker 1: it in a pocket. I think my mom found it
Speaker 1: and like I had brought up weed before to them,
Speaker 1: and I was like, so, Mom and Dad, like, do
Speaker 1: people smoke weed in China? And they were like, yes,
Speaker 1: of course, but they're they're they're terrible, terrible people. You
Speaker 1: should never smoke Weedberry frost. They do strawberry frost, and
Speaker 1: so I was and so I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: can't let them know that this is that this is
Speaker 1: something that I do. I've been found out. But I
Speaker 1: think with my sister and her kid and my my
Speaker 1: brother in law, they're like it was like they that
Speaker 1: was like immediating four. I don't know what my sister
Speaker 1: told them, but I get a text from my dad
Speaker 1: that was just like, don't ever do drugs. Your life
Speaker 1: will be ruined. And it does feel like I'm fourteen again. Away, Well,
Speaker 1: it's because we all have roots. I don't know when
Speaker 1: you were in school, did they do the DARE program
Speaker 1: with you? Okay, So that was the worst thing ever
Speaker 1: because they said there are three drugs marijuana, heroin, and
Speaker 1: cocaine and they could kill you. It was like that basic.
Speaker 1: So now I really do believe in like generations, it's
Speaker 1: like embedded that it's this like evil horrible things. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: you know hearing hearing false information over and over again
Speaker 1: sinks in. Yes, it does. We have learned in government.
Speaker 1: Oh god, um wait, I want to genuinely know this, Michael.
Speaker 1: I voted for Hillary. Okay, great, thank you, great, so
Speaker 1: ugly petty. If you what is like have you ever
Speaker 1: used an understudy before on stage? Yes? Yes, okay, great?
Speaker 1: What and like, what is like the threshold for just
Speaker 1: being like, okay, I can't do this, it's I've care.
Speaker 1: I will tell you that canker store can really make
Speaker 1: it hard to act. Of course, I didn't go on
Speaker 1: stage one time when I had are you serious? I
Speaker 1: called out of a show. I was like, I can't talk.
Speaker 1: I couldn't talk. It was characters talking about you, like
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys, I can't perform. I believe you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did one man play where I spoke for a
Speaker 1: hundred minutes, and if I had a canker story, it
Speaker 1: would it could be I would have to adjust everything.
Speaker 1: I would like suddenly have a lisp because I had
Speaker 1: to adjust the way that I spoke, because to avoid
Speaker 1: biting my canker story. Because do you get do you
Speaker 1: get a whole mouthful of them? I will sometimes will No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen quite like that where I get a
Speaker 1: lot of a time. I do they get get they're
Speaker 1: all over. I think it's a vitamin deficiency. You should
Speaker 1: take vitamins. I'll get one might almost always come from
Speaker 1: biting myself, like myself, and then I'll have to adjust
Speaker 1: the way I eat and I'll bite myself on the
Speaker 1: other side because you're excited when you eat, Because I
Speaker 1: get really excited. I eat very ate, very quickly, and
Speaker 1: I get excited and if I sometimes if I'm talking
Speaker 1: while I'm eating. But no, I never missed this out
Speaker 1: for a Kinker store. Not that that that I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand I've wanted to. I've only ever
Speaker 1: missed a show for another job that's paid me more. Well,
Speaker 1: there you go, and people understand that. But I've gone
Speaker 1: on with you know, I've gone on with simus infection.
Speaker 1: I've gone on with with like strep throat. I've gone
Speaker 1: on with shingles. One leg sings back and shingles is
Speaker 1: back and making a big pot return. Yeah when it
Speaker 1: was when then well got it. But I was like,
Speaker 1: it's back. Everyone's like singles and one was on the
Speaker 1: phone with our agent shingles. That's what they say. Um,
Speaker 1: that's okay with single Oh my god, the room where
Speaker 1: it happened. But I uh, but but I also did
Speaker 1: it with one time. The one man play I did
Speaker 1: with poisoning was that Byron Seller Byron Seller in London.
Speaker 1: I did Byron Sell in London for two months and
Speaker 1: got food poisoning twice. I finally went to a doctor
Speaker 1: because it's actually really tricky to see a doctor there.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can anybody can see a doctor, but
Speaker 1: you might have don't wait for a long time. It's like,
Speaker 1: so I kept saying should I go to the doctor,
Speaker 1: and they're like, don't bother, it's not worth it. And
Speaker 1: then after I got sick again, the theater was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll send you to a doctor. And they paid for
Speaker 1: like a you know, which apparently is really expensive. It's
Speaker 1: like doubly expensive if you pay for like a doctor,
Speaker 1: because it's free to see a doctor. And the guy
Speaker 1: was like, he said, restaurants in London are dirty. You know,
Speaker 1: London not beloved for its restaurants or its food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not to shade the city of London. Love it beautiful, gorgeous, well,
Speaker 1: loved for many other things. But that's where they find things.
Speaker 1: That's the right thing to kill all the bacteria. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hitting the food is troublesome. But apparently I think that's
Speaker 1: mean what do I know, But you know how like
Speaker 1: a lot a lot. You have so much, you know
Speaker 1: how they have a lot of different flavors of crisps, chips,
Speaker 1: their chips, they have so so many, many many types
Speaker 1: of chips. I mean, I guess we do too, but
Speaker 1: they have like it's really it's a huge snack there.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's because after the war, during the war,
Speaker 1: when they didn't get when they couldn't get any food,
Speaker 1: all they got with potatoes. Um, they got creative with
Speaker 1: potatoes and and so everybody has a taste for crasty
Speaker 1: queens seven where they were like zesty crab exactly. And
Speaker 1: that's why roast roast beef. Yeah, and that's why, that's
Speaker 1: why I think that's why their food there. You know,
Speaker 1: their tastes are like that. That's bangers and mash and
Speaker 1: they have engls breakfast. It's all like very salty and
Speaker 1: and you know, blood sausage. And yeah. I went there
Speaker 1: one time, and I've only been there. I've only been
Speaker 1: to Europe once. But when we were there, I think
Speaker 1: I had like fish and chips, which like you can
Speaker 1: totally get anywhere, so I kind of wasted the opportunity.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's another I like when I'm there
Speaker 1: like a nice pop pie. Yes, meat pie. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I get in my head because then I think of
Speaker 1: Sweeney Tod and my brain goes somewhere crazy people that
Speaker 1: it might be people or no, it's it's you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's just rat Yeah, like something could
Speaker 1: be in there. It's like a guy with a rat
Speaker 1: on two rats on his shoulders on ninth eighth Avenue
Speaker 1: and that's very eighth Avenue and they were dyed. Pink's
Speaker 1: cute shut a big New York City rats, big rats
Speaker 1: that are his pets. And I wouldn't have even noticed
Speaker 1: that except for I saw some guy walk over to
Speaker 1: him kind of like cautiously and I heard him say
Speaker 1: those rats. He was like, why yes, guys, Yeah, their
Speaker 1: rats starting for drama desk. You should have two rats
Speaker 1: perched on yours. And I saw this on the avenue
Speaker 1: and Fipthya Street. Our next presenter is Laura Bell Bundy
Speaker 1: and I don't want you to chease your looks at all.
Speaker 1: What do you have? What do you like? Like? What
Speaker 1: that's going to be happening? Well, you asked, I, um
Speaker 1: So every year I've done I've started the show with
Speaker 1: like a movie. Uh, you know very crystal. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: like you know, like like um like like you do
Speaker 1: in awards shows, but the drama desk is you know,
Speaker 1: it's not certainly no Tony Awards, but it's not on
Speaker 1: TV and there's no real budget. You can stream it.
Speaker 1: You can stream you can stream it on very good.
Speaker 1: But they're always like there and we and we have
Speaker 1: performances from shows, but it's really more like a concert.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't have set changes and things like that.
Speaker 1: It's really more concerts. So you know, they're always like
Speaker 1: what do you want to sing? You want to sing something?
Speaker 1: And I'm not a singer, and and and and and
Speaker 1: I and they're like, well, what about like a monologue
Speaker 1: or like what kind of thing could you do? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's not Like this is a show for
Speaker 1: people who make theater. We're not going to impress them
Speaker 1: with anything anything on the stage. The only thing that
Speaker 1: we can impress them with is if we do it better.
Speaker 1: You know, like there's no way I'm gonna do anything
Speaker 1: on this stage with one day of rehearsal better then
Speaker 1: they have with their show that they've spent five years
Speaker 1: on to put up. So it just doesn't make any
Speaker 1: sense that I would ever sing or perform in front
Speaker 1: of this audience. So I asked to do this movie.
Speaker 1: I has to open with a movie, because I thought
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that good to impress them
Speaker 1: because it's a movie. And so I'm we're gonna do
Speaker 1: that again. We're trying to spigure out what it's what
Speaker 1: it's going to be. The first year, it was me
Speaker 1: on a city bike biking through the theater district and
Speaker 1: and and I'm biking by like all the theaters and
Speaker 1: there not in different nominees and it was crazy. Has
Speaker 1: all these people Jesse tyther Ferguson and Neal Brooks and
Speaker 1: christ fitz Gerald, um um, Georgia Engelee, I'll be at
Speaker 1: the Signature Theater. And I circled her on a city bike.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. And then I got all
Speaker 1: I go all the way downtown and I go by
Speaker 1: the Labyrinth and I saw Daphne Ruben Vega and then
Speaker 1: I run into Mary Testa Alison Fraser in front of
Speaker 1: the Public because they were nominated for a show at
Speaker 1: the Public and they're they're all dressed up and they're like,
Speaker 1: aren't you hosting the drama Desk Awards and I'm like yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's like, they're right now, we're late, and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's back past all the places. And then you came
Speaker 1: in from the back, and then I came in from
Speaker 1: the We couldn't figure that out, like you see me.
Speaker 1: Then you see me backstage at town Hall. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I go all the way through my Midtown right back
Speaker 1: into the near back back and forth backstage of town Hall,
Speaker 1: and then I came out onto the stage. The last year,
Speaker 1: I was like running around the theater district, not running
Speaker 1: into people, but but just talking about the shows, and
Speaker 1: I get hit by um it was going to be
Speaker 1: a bus, but then somebody ran over somebody in Times
Speaker 1: Square and it became this giant sign and there's a
Speaker 1: shot of like Times Square and you see them putting
Speaker 1: up a sign of me doing the Drama Desk Awards.
Speaker 1: And then later I'm like running around Times Square and
Speaker 1: the sign has detached and swings through and hits me.
Speaker 1: And then I wake up and I don't and I've
Speaker 1: been in a coma. I wake up and I don't
Speaker 1: know who I am. Judith Light plays my doctor and
Speaker 1: Danny DeVito plays my agent, and and then and then
Speaker 1: George Decay is there and I'm like, who are you
Speaker 1: supposed to be? And he's like, I'm George Stid and
Speaker 1: then and then they're like, you gotta the Drama Disk
Speaker 1: Awards there tonight. And then George Kay was like, I'll
Speaker 1: get you there and he pushes me through like on
Speaker 1: um in a wheelchair, and then he pushed me on.
Speaker 1: He was sweet, George Decay, Well there's time. I think,
Speaker 1: let's matt you and I let's pitch something. Okay, Michael,
Speaker 1: you're you're Todate Ticks sort of ambassador. You're waiting outside
Speaker 1: the theater with like an envelope. Yeah, You're like, I'm
Speaker 1: waiting for And then you look it down on your
Speaker 1: iPad and it's who but Matthews And he says, hey,
Speaker 1: I think that's for me. And you say, I don't
Speaker 1: know who you are, and he says, let me tell
Speaker 1: you who I am, and he does a whole number
Speaker 1: about how he's Matthew Morrison and the whole number is
Speaker 1: just a list of his credit and you say, get
Speaker 1: the hell out of here. You're not hosting. I am
Speaker 1: Mike gl you and then Matthew Morrison's and then He's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And then and then how do I
Speaker 1: get there? You walk in, you walk because because little
Speaker 1: do we know, we're in front of the theater and
Speaker 1: like everyone's like, you're like, excuse me, Michael. And then
Speaker 1: I'm wearing it to take today, take scar right right right,
Speaker 1: and then it's a whole tonight. Look, look, take it
Speaker 1: or leave it. Take it or leave it, leave it.
Speaker 1: I'll take it. No, I'll take it. I'll take it,
Speaker 1: take it, take it. I'm committed. That's what we're going
Speaker 1: to do. You know, it's a first pass. It's a
Speaker 1: first pass. I understand that by proxy of you being here,
Speaker 1: we are hired drive for the show. So let us
Speaker 1: let us continue to think of more ideas. You get
Speaker 1: one day of rehearsals in the theater for one day,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and you know, if you really
Speaker 1: want to do something that is funny and works, you
Speaker 1: don't want to just like throw it up to try
Speaker 1: to do it. And that doesn't want to anything that
Speaker 1: has a margin of era that where it might not work.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's worth doing. Thank you for this.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's not the case. You know,
Speaker 1: we're doing h is a week, sure, but like when
Speaker 1: it's one night, Yeah, you gotta get it right. What's
Speaker 1: the crowd like? They're awesome, awesome, They're not like the people. No, no,
Speaker 1: they're really really awesome. But but they you know, the
Speaker 1: they're they're they're ahead of you, you know from the beginning,
Speaker 1: because they're very clever people. So that's why you can't.
Speaker 1: Really it's not like putting on a play. It has
Speaker 1: to be putting on an award show. Different art forms, yeah,
Speaker 1: totally different art forms a culture number seventy two Awards
Speaker 1: shows for leventeen. Was Mary Tested? Right? Good memory? We
Speaker 1: don't remember anything we say after we say it. I
Speaker 1: murture the inflection. I called her Marie Test, but you
Speaker 1: know I actually thought it was Murray. You said Murray
Speaker 1: Tested Murray to stage. But Mary Tester was in the
Speaker 1: Government Inspector, the play I did, yes, last summer. What
Speaker 1: was she like? She's I gonna tell you. She was
Speaker 1: in the first off broad Ray show I ever saw
Speaker 1: a New Brain at Lincoln Center in nine remember, and
Speaker 1: she was did you Yeah? I'm the year the Year
Speaker 1: of Our Lord. It was the year and it was
Speaker 1: Malcolm Gets and Chip Zion and Christian Chenowith and Norman
Speaker 1: Lewis and Marry Testa and Penny Um Penny Fuller and
Speaker 1: it was a crazy cast. It was my first off
Speaker 1: we show and we saw at the at the Mitzi
Speaker 1: Newhouse downstairs at Lincoln Center and it was totally brilliant,
Speaker 1: so so. And then Mary Testera was in Sanna Do.
Speaker 1: And then I saw her. I've seen her and a
Speaker 1: ton of other things and and I guess I got
Speaker 1: to know her well. And then when I got to
Speaker 1: know her through the through this video we made two
Speaker 1: years ago, I was nervous because she's yeah, and she's
Speaker 1: like she could be you never know, because she plays
Speaker 1: tough characters and she's just she loves the work and
Speaker 1: she loves to laugh, and she loves actors and she
Speaker 1: uh is so uh imaginative and she and and in
Speaker 1: the Government Inspector, she was so clever and she had
Speaker 1: such good ideas and and was totally brilliant and has
Speaker 1: won an award already for it. I can't remember the
Speaker 1: name of the words Actor's Equity Award. And she she
Speaker 1: would say things like she was like, I have this
Speaker 1: idea and I don't know what it is. And she
Speaker 1: would like sort of explain it to you. And she's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but usually when I have ideas like that,
Speaker 1: they work. It was like the way she had the
Speaker 1: idea perfect. Sometimes I sometimes I have ideas that are brilliant,
Speaker 1: and she had one. This is remember when um so
Speaker 1: she played the mayor's wife and I played this guy
Speaker 1: who comes in and like screws up the town and
Speaker 1: then leaves and uh, Michael McGrath played the mayor and
Speaker 1: she played the mayor's wife. And remember when Milannia kept
Speaker 1: slapping away Trump's hands. So she had this idea that
Speaker 1: we would put that into the show. And there's this
Speaker 1: part where I'm like saying goodbye and it's it's very
Speaker 1: silly play and very money, and there's I'm saying goodbye
Speaker 1: and we're all looking out standing very still, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I think, if if we hold for a second and
Speaker 1: I and he reaches from my hand and I smack it,
Speaker 1: it will seem like Milannia and Trump. And it killed.
Speaker 1: I mean to stop the show for about a week
Speaker 1: and then it got old because that chaos dumpster fire
Speaker 1: of a presidency. You know, people, it just moves on things.
Speaker 1: You can't really. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's interesting, Like,
Speaker 1: but while it was relevant, that was probably the best
Speaker 1: joke in the show. Yeah, but that's so fucked up
Speaker 1: that the turnover rate is just literally a week before
Speaker 1: there's a collective a couple of days and people are
Speaker 1: just like, what oh that happened? Think about the news
Speaker 1: cycle just today right, like finding out what's going down
Speaker 1: that they were looking for access Hollywood specific stuff when
Speaker 1: they were raiding him the ship with Paul Ryan now
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna like retire, like this will all be
Speaker 1: no one will care in three days. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a three it's a three day everyday news cycle. Yeah, crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy crazy. Um. I want to hold on because while
Speaker 1: you're talking about Mary Testa and strong theatrical women, I
Speaker 1: thought of something else, which is and this would be
Speaker 1: the true gag, which is that Patti LuPone played your
Speaker 1: mother on Ugly Betty. Yes, okay, explain this. How what's
Speaker 1: the day like where you know that Patty is going
Speaker 1: to come? Well, first of all, can I just tell
Speaker 1: you that other people that they talked about the list,
Speaker 1: she was always on the list. I never I don't
Speaker 1: know who they went to and when. But but like
Speaker 1: when the idea that I was gonna have a mother
Speaker 1: came up, I was like, who is going to play?
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, the list is and it was
Speaker 1: like Kathy Bates and then it was Patty the Pone
Speaker 1: and at one point there was Jane Curtain Time Daily.
Speaker 1: I mean that what it made sense, but but I
Speaker 1: mean I would just remember being like, I am the
Speaker 1: luckiest guy because it was like when this show was
Speaker 1: really popular and so we really could get I mean
Speaker 1: it was like that. I mean when I was a
Speaker 1: kid watching sitcoms, which is what I did. You know,
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of sitcoms when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: People the mother's was always interesting. It was always interesting,
Speaker 1: Like oh my god, Carol Burnette plays Helen Hunt's mother
Speaker 1: on on Matt About You and and and and like
Speaker 1: those those those relationships are always so fun to see
Speaker 1: who comes you know, uh, Debbie Reynolds playing Debra Messings
Speaker 1: mother and so you know, and all the parents on
Speaker 1: Sign Feather was just so funny. Who who would end up?
Speaker 1: You know? It was always so interesting and or could
Speaker 1: could be a misfire. It's like why why is Marlo
Speaker 1: Thomas playing the mother. You know, it's like suddenly that
Speaker 1: they doesn't make sense anymore. And so I was so
Speaker 1: excited and and and and and the three names that
Speaker 1: came my way work just so crazy. But anyway, Patting
Speaker 1: the pown, of course, was a really good get. And
Speaker 1: and she was so she was so she was so
Speaker 1: cool and so imaginative and and and fun and and
Speaker 1: a pro and and you know, we were really good
Speaker 1: on that set because we we all got along really
Speaker 1: really well, the whole cast of that show. And we
Speaker 1: also loved actors, and so when guest stars would come on,
Speaker 1: we knew, we knew how to treat them, to make them,
Speaker 1: you know, have have a good time on and off camera.
Speaker 1: We knew, like we knew, we knew how to like
Speaker 1: showcase them and also uh, you know, celebrate them. And
Speaker 1: and she and you know, we would watch videos of her.
Speaker 1: We were like, Patty, remember when we did and it
Speaker 1: was so and we all loved her. And then and
Speaker 1: then when she did Gypsy. I think when she did
Speaker 1: Gypsy before she did it on Broadway, she did it
Speaker 1: at Encourse and I think we, like some of us,
Speaker 1: flew in for it because we were at that time
Speaker 1: we were shooting in l A. And we all flew
Speaker 1: in for it because we loved her so much, and
Speaker 1: and and and and I don't know if you saw
Speaker 1: the episode, but at the end it has an unhappy ending.
Speaker 1: She finds out I'm gay. I was in the closet
Speaker 1: and she finds out I'm gay and she leaves. Wow,
Speaker 1: and she never came back, which was a character never
Speaker 1: got resolution, never got resolution, which is like, which is
Speaker 1: pretty bold for a show. Well then, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: that was over ten years ago now, and that we
Speaker 1: were telling that story then. I mean on a show
Speaker 1: like that, I guess more like on the show because
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, sad gay people's stories was nothing
Speaker 1: new at that point. But but on a show like
Speaker 1: that work show where everything got resolved, Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: kind of like a happy, positive show. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was soapy, but that was just by nature of like
Speaker 1: where it came from. But that I remember always being
Speaker 1: pretty upbeat. Yeah, it was. It was silly, it was whimsical, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was a fan of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: and then I because I have actually from a young
Speaker 1: young age, like always felt like I think this is
Speaker 1: inherent in every gay man like just to pull towards
Speaker 1: Vanessa Williams that I can't describe, but like, and it's
Speaker 1: so funny because whenever the children have forgotten about Vanessa Williams,
Speaker 1: she keeps, she comes back in. She does she stays
Speaker 1: in the consciousness, Like when she came back and was
Speaker 1: on Desperate Housewives and was like, there's a new housewife
Speaker 1: and town and I was like, yeah, yeah, she was
Speaker 1: just guest judging on RuPaul's drag race, which you also
Speaker 1: have in common with with her. We have to know
Speaker 1: about that. That is a really cool thing. Yes, goals
Speaker 1: and I it was Snatch Game and it was Mad
Speaker 1: season seven Max sort of undoing her courses, just sort
Speaker 1: of a little very memory. Yes, it's right, And it
Speaker 1: was what's your name? As is a little Richard Kennedy,
Speaker 1: Pardy Davenport is little Richards and and and Adele and
Speaker 1: uh Katya was was okay, so take us through, Take
Speaker 1: us through when when when you're so because you were
Speaker 1: actually doing the Snatch game like you were one of
Speaker 1: the I was one of the contestants. You were a
Speaker 1: contestant Snatch Game and then you went and guests judged,
Speaker 1: So so what happens when the two days I was
Speaker 1: there for two days. Yeah, okay, sorry, what was your
Speaker 1: take us through it? I was there for two days,
Speaker 1: and the first day was snatch game, and Rue is
Speaker 1: dressed as Paul you know, is dressed as a man
Speaker 1: that day, and and and he had well I don't
Speaker 1: want to spoil too much, but still the ruse dressed
Speaker 1: as a boy as you know, um, not in drag, right,
Speaker 1: but I just like that he was supermodel of the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um and um. And they're all there, and they were
Speaker 1: really there's there's like the energy you know, obviously what
Speaker 1: you see is as this cut version, and the energy
Speaker 1: in the room was everyone's doing this character at the
Speaker 1: same time. They're doing their characters at the same time.
Speaker 1: So there's so much craziness happening. Like if you just watch,
Speaker 1: you know, they're all in character all the time, except
Speaker 1: for that at that moment when Max stopped. That was
Speaker 1: the only time when anybody like broke character. From the
Speaker 1: moment I walked in, I think I I think, I
Speaker 1: think they were there, and then they brought me in
Speaker 1: and so I walked around the corner and suddenly there's
Speaker 1: all these these queens in like their own little world
Speaker 1: and they were so funny and so brilliant and then
Speaker 1: sometimes not you know, that was also like like because
Speaker 1: they were riffing, you know, it was it's not like
Speaker 1: it's not like a real match game where you got writers.
Speaker 1: They I don't have writers. It wasn't they were improvising.
Speaker 1: Well that moment where Max sort of because I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like on the runway, which yes, that that was
Speaker 1: on the runway. That's right, that's right, that's right. But
Speaker 1: even then, like, was that a moment that was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: like the producer sort of snuck this moment in that
Speaker 1: waspsed to be off or was that just like truly
Speaker 1: a bizarre moment whereveryone's like what's going on? It was
Speaker 1: a bizarre moment wherever go on. It was like I
Speaker 1: mean where I'm like looking at people and we love Max.
Speaker 1: By the way, Max is great. I mean that was
Speaker 1: it was. It was shocking because it was on the runway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was on the runway later, but it was shocking
Speaker 1: because Max had been so kind of like stomick and
Speaker 1: strong the whole time and then to see that was
Speaker 1: like truly bizarre and you could tell they didn't know
Speaker 1: how to edit it either. They were like, this weird
Speaker 1: thing happened. Yeah, I guess I'll react to it. And
Speaker 1: and what was weird was that Max wouldn't really say anything.
Speaker 1: Wasn't like it wasn't so it wasn't like Max was
Speaker 1: trying to steal the moment, which would have been interesting.
Speaker 1: It was like Max was just I think Max really
Speaker 1: was sick or something I didn't eat or you know,
Speaker 1: I mean he's so skinny, he probably just hadn't eaten.
Speaker 1: So you're there the first day to watch the snatch
Speaker 1: game and the other guest judges Tamar, Yeah, come on, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, so that's very cool. That's the whole thing
Speaker 1: in and of itself. But okay, so then you go
Speaker 1: back the second day and that's when you RuPaul as
Speaker 1: in her glory? Yes, yes, what is that? Like? Well,
Speaker 1: it's you know, I mean, there's not really a reveal,
Speaker 1: like I like, there she is. You know, it's again
Speaker 1: you walk in. There's like there's a reveal on TV,
Speaker 1: but in the show when you're taping it, there's no
Speaker 1: real You just walk in and it's like, oh, there
Speaker 1: she isn't she's And the first thing I think we
Speaker 1: did was take a photo together on the runway and
Speaker 1: she was just like stilted there. Yeah, and she she
Speaker 1: she was a big fan of UM bright colors and
Speaker 1: bold patterns, so cool about that. And she also came
Speaker 1: to see She's come to see everything. She came to
Speaker 1: see Torge songs, came to government inspectors, came to see
Speaker 1: Byron Seller and and she and she was on Ugly Betty.
Speaker 1: So I've met her many times and and I'm always
Speaker 1: like it. But she's super cool and and always had
Speaker 1: something interesting to say and and and all the jokes
Speaker 1: about me that day we're about Barber streisand and know um,
Speaker 1: but it's you know that that we have to take up.
Speaker 1: You take your photo and then you do your one way.
Speaker 1: We all had our own and then and then they
Speaker 1: start bringing them out for the for the for the
Speaker 1: and and and and rue. This is like I did
Speaker 1: the idea also did UM Project run Away. And you know,
Speaker 1: like the hosts have somebody in their ear, and I
Speaker 1: hosted something once where I had something in somebody in
Speaker 1: my ear. So so sometimes you'll see then like U
Speaker 1: huh yeah, okay, okay, right right, and they're getting you know,
Speaker 1: and they're they're learning what what's happening right there, and
Speaker 1: they're sequestered. I mean on those shows they're still sequestered
Speaker 1: and they don't don't allow to have phones in it
Speaker 1: to live in. Yeah, it's it's crazy, especially at that
Speaker 1: point it was already in full swing, like it was
Speaker 1: already like the beast of a show that it was.
Speaker 1: In fact, that was that season seven was the first
Speaker 1: year that they were like really taking a lot of
Speaker 1: social media influential queens on. That was like a big
Speaker 1: that was like almost a turning point. That was the
Speaker 1: first year of like the Instagram queen as a concept. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Miss Fame was the it's on it's a shoot on
Speaker 1: sound stage, sound stage and they have two or three
Speaker 1: stages and one of them has the runway and then
Speaker 1: the other one has the workroom. And it's a set
Speaker 1: on a stage so crazy, it's probably insane to see that.
Speaker 1: And you you know, I didn't go in the room,
Speaker 1: but they have these two way mirrors. All the mirrors
Speaker 1: are two way mirrors, and you can go back there.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, because that's how they shoot. That's how
Speaker 1: they shoot. Yeah, that's how they shoot in and so
Speaker 1: you go back there and the queens are looking right
Speaker 1: at you doing lip glass or whatever, and you know
Speaker 1: you can't stand right up against them, but they're like,
Speaker 1: just stand back and they have no idea you're there.
Speaker 1: And there's no ceiling so you can hear them. It's
Speaker 1: just an open room with like walls. It's crazy. It was.
Speaker 1: That was the most exciting thing for me, was like
Speaker 1: just being a fly on the wall watching them, seeing
Speaker 1: how like the sausage gets made. Yeah, totally so blick
Speaker 1: in Hamilton's reference. There you go. Um, So you are
Speaker 1: you a big fan of the show to this day? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not great. I I you can don't
Speaker 1: quiz me, but don't. That was going to be a
Speaker 1: big part of the show as there was gonna be
Speaker 1: a test because I I have been lax, but but
Speaker 1: I do love this show and I did love I
Speaker 1: mean I love Chanela and we did you know, and
Speaker 1: I did cocktails and classics together, so we like, I
Speaker 1: love sch Angela all the time, yes, not just on
Speaker 1: the show. I actually thought everyone was so surprised she
Speaker 1: came back and was what she was. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: guys have not been watching, because like she has been
Speaker 1: out there doing it getting she works hard. It's very talented.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean if she's not the peak version
Speaker 1: of herself, then she's damned there close. And she's worked
Speaker 1: so hard to totally. Yeah, she's amazing. She books all
Speaker 1: those called projects. Looks, let me tell you this time
Speaker 1: this new tad called movie so Good. There's like a
Speaker 1: YouTube he makes, like a YouTube music video movies, similar
Speaker 1: to there's a song called dem Beats, which is him
Speaker 1: and RuPaul. Just go YouTube beats. Okay, there's a fun
Speaker 1: like glamorous Asian boy with a fan who like dances
Speaker 1: on the bar. He gets on that bar top and
Speaker 1: I and that's and I aspired to that. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait can we talk about you brought up Patty as
Speaker 1: being this mother or just the concept of like a
Speaker 1: like a character's parents, which of course maybe think about Mercedes. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: talk about Torch Song, like I mean, any there's just
Speaker 1: probably no huge changes, but like is mois is still involved,
Speaker 1: Moses Kaufman the director, It's gonna be basically the same,
Speaker 1: per same thing, only I think maybe a little deeper,
Speaker 1: little enhanced by imagine to be pretty much the same.
Speaker 1: To fill the Helen Hayes to fill. Actually the theater
Speaker 1: the Helen Hayes is the stage is smaller than the
Speaker 1: second stage, and I think the room is actually smaller
Speaker 1: because the second stage it's a but there's all this
Speaker 1: space like on the sides and in the front and
Speaker 1: the back. So the room itself is like a big
Speaker 1: warehouse that they put a theater in. Helen Hayes is
Speaker 1: like arrow actually now that I think of it, very small,
Speaker 1: but still it was called the Little Thing you. I
Speaker 1: think you said in your interview that it's hard to
Speaker 1: play Arnold withoutgoing into like the Harvey like register. I
Speaker 1: feel like, I don't know, is that is that like
Speaker 1: a truly like a temptation or is that not really
Speaker 1: what I mean? I mean, you know, it's it's easy
Speaker 1: to hear it. What's it's Actually that's actually a good
Speaker 1: thing because you know, like it's sort of like it's
Speaker 1: I mean, I never saw Harvey do it, and I
Speaker 1: and and I might have may have seen the movie,
Speaker 1: but I didn't watch it because I just thought and
Speaker 1: also he's he's so there. I mean, I know Harvey
Speaker 1: and I know his work well enough, and I now
Speaker 1: know him well enough to know the spirit of what
Speaker 1: Arnold was for him, and and that is extremely informative
Speaker 1: for me, um to know that. So so because I
Speaker 1: because there's always something to like lean lean on in
Speaker 1: a good way, not not not not like as a
Speaker 1: crutch to UM, I don't think, but Harvey, Harvey's your croutch.
Speaker 1: But it would be foolish not to. I think it
Speaker 1: would be foolish to try to not do not not
Speaker 1: honor him and his and his performance. And he wrote
Speaker 1: it it's you know, but but there's no way I
Speaker 1: could be like him. So and also what's interesting one
Speaker 1: of the things that that I think, isn't that that
Speaker 1: that our producer pointed out is that the Harvey that
Speaker 1: that the Arnold that that audience is needed in two
Speaker 1: is different than the Arnold audiences need now. And and
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the mother son relationship, because
Speaker 1: she what she says to you know, she doesn't approve
Speaker 1: the lifestyle, and what she says to him is um
Speaker 1: so upsetting to hear now to our audiences the things
Speaker 1: she said, you know, the things she says like like
Speaker 1: yes that and and like uh, if I'd known, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have bothered to have you. I mean, she said
Speaker 1: some pretty and she loves him, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: and she loves him like it's so it's like and
Speaker 1: the audience gasps every night. Yeah, and back in the
Speaker 1: day they didn't write right, but it's I think they're
Speaker 1: gasping because they think this is something that can't possibly
Speaker 1: happen anymore, but it's so present in so many people's lives.
Speaker 1: Be sure. I mean, yeah, sure, that's that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is still important. And they may gasp
Speaker 1: in New York City, right, but my mom don't know.
Speaker 1: My mom would watch them and be like elsewhere who knows?
Speaker 1: Yeah that I liked what she said. Anyway, I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to see it because we actually there was a
Speaker 1: period where we had I think three or four guests
Speaker 1: come in. Drew was one of them. Yes, But even
Speaker 1: after that they all came in. They were like, just
Speaker 1: a torch song. Incredible, just torch song. You must just
Speaker 1: torch song. I wanted to light myself on fire with joy.
Speaker 1: After it was just like repeated praise. We cannot wait
Speaker 1: to see it, Um, I can't wait. I I read
Speaker 1: it back in high school and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is this feels I feel like, I'm not advanced enough
Speaker 1: for this. That's so interesting. Had that feeling to right,
Speaker 1: especially that I don't know if you remember the scene
Speaker 1: where he goes into the back room, Yes, and International study.
Speaker 1: In the International Study, he goes in the back room
Speaker 1: and experiences what happens in the back room of what
Speaker 1: does happen for the young Show me what happens, um,
Speaker 1: and then you can audio describe it. Yes, yes, um,
Speaker 1: but it's uh. When I read that scene, it's done
Speaker 1: without another actor, so it's very it's it's very well
Speaker 1: described in the play in the script, and I remember
Speaker 1: reading that and knowing exactly what was going on and
Speaker 1: being like, this is this is this is adult It
Speaker 1: was the wild play. I felt the same way that
Speaker 1: I felt when I discovered like Thom of Finland. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's this is this is a
Speaker 1: lot in a great way, Tom of Finland. You know
Speaker 1: Tom of Finland. They're making a whole doctor. I think
Speaker 1: they're making some documentary. He's he's that I'm finished artist
Speaker 1: who like Drew like cartoonishly masculine, muscular game many you've
Speaker 1: seen them, You've seen them. I'm sure I've seen them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're like lovely, bulky and dud right right up
Speaker 1: your alley. It's like think like Long Island, but like
Speaker 1: biker you love it. Yeah, one time. But here's a
Speaker 1: real story from English class. I was an AP composition
Speaker 1: and um we were reading um street car named Desire
Speaker 1: and on the front of stet card name Desire is
Speaker 1: like Marlon looking all sexy. And my AP teacher was like,
Speaker 1: what do you think of this picture? And I was
Speaker 1: like what. She was like, what do you think the
Speaker 1: picture is supposed to make you feel? And I was
Speaker 1: like I didn't know if I was being confronted, like
Speaker 1: about my sexuality. And I was like uh uh, and
Speaker 1: she was like really just like asking like like something
Speaker 1: questioned about the male form or like how it was
Speaker 1: like supposed to be like like aspirational or something. But
Speaker 1: it was so blurredline that now, looking back, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the funk was that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: She also told our whole class, oh, everyone comes out
Speaker 1: in college. Everyone will come out. You guys will all
Speaker 1: come out in college, and were of course it was
Speaker 1: I mean like it was just so it was every
Speaker 1: day was like in a front. Well. She was saying
Speaker 1: that she was playing. That was played for laughs. The
Speaker 1: way she said that, she was like, everyone comes out
Speaker 1: in college. Just you wait, everyone look around. Matt Rogers
Speaker 1: had to Yu and the fall. I remember I got
Speaker 1: into n y U and I was so excited because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yes, I can be gay. And
Speaker 1: then this girl that I went to high school with
Speaker 1: also got in and I was like, well, never mind,
Speaker 1: can't She'll come back and tell everyone that's how I mean,
Speaker 1: you grew up in Texas, you know. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: had an older sister who was gay, so it was okay.
Speaker 1: But um, so it was a lot easier for me. Um,
Speaker 1: But when did you graduate from high school? I graduated
Speaker 1: from high school. Stopped it. I just threw up from
Speaker 1: my mouth. Little stop. That's because if a teacher had
Speaker 1: said that in my high school, right in my day,
Speaker 1: have a teacher had said that, that would have been
Speaker 1: very scandalous. Yeah. I think we were all thinking we
Speaker 1: were all being very liberal. Um in the moment. In
Speaker 1: the moment um, but yeah, I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: the island is a little bit. It's very conservative, right,
Speaker 1: don't really get that. I mean they think it's New York.
Speaker 1: It's a blue state. But it's conservative. Well, Staten Island
Speaker 1: went red. It's not the same thing. No, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not the same thing, but like the attitude is.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine that Okay, baby s a
Speaker 1: T word. My a p com teacher would have loved you,
Speaker 1: um analogus and he had said analogous. Um. I did
Speaker 1: get a five on the ape contest, good for you,
Speaker 1: and a hundred on the regions good imagine. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm really dumb appressively so I'm analogous um. But yes, no, um, listen,
Speaker 1: we've all come a long way since high school. We're
Speaker 1: all here just gaying it up on this pod. Well
Speaker 1: I went to it was such a big high school that, uh, like,
Speaker 1: there weren't really bullies in my high school because there
Speaker 1: was so many people. You couldn't really you know, like
Speaker 1: he would stay in your little groups and it wasn't
Speaker 1: everyone knows everyone's situation. Unfortunately, were bullies in middle school,
Speaker 1: but then by that but at the high school there
Speaker 1: were no real bullies. So I really just hung out
Speaker 1: with people from um theater and band, the Freaks, the Weirdos.
Speaker 1: I played in the band, and I think the band
Speaker 1: and um middle school and the ninth and tenth grade
Speaker 1: and then where I'm from, there's a ninth and tenth
Speaker 1: grade school, and then there's an eleventh and twelfth grade school,
Speaker 1: which is senior high school, and and everything gets much
Speaker 1: more serious. And I had to make a choice, and
Speaker 1: I chose theater. Good for you. What with instrument were
Speaker 1: you blow in? Before the decision? French? My sister played
Speaker 1: french horn. She was so cute people who played french horn.
Speaker 1: It's a really hard instrument. It is. Yeah, it's all um,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, if you unrolled it would be like
Speaker 1: it would be like three miles long, and and and
Speaker 1: and and I was Originally I was a trumpet player,
Speaker 1: and I was not very good at the trumpet, and
Speaker 1: they needed people to play french horn, so they asked
Speaker 1: me to and you filled in that. But I was
Speaker 1: so bad at it. I was really bad. But I
Speaker 1: really liked it. I loved playing. I love being in
Speaker 1: marching band, especially for you. I played the clarinet. I
Speaker 1: was a trumpet boy. I was a trumpet boy for
Speaker 1: like a second middle school and then our band teacher
Speaker 1: in middle school, follow us high school, and then he
Speaker 1: was on grinder when I went home when I was like, hi,
Speaker 1: Mr Kay, So you didn't say hi to him on
Speaker 1: side high and just in a very casual like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm put way and he's doing great. It
Speaker 1: was just it was a very fun like the conversation program.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, Mr Kay is doing great. Now.
Speaker 1: I won't use this say his full name, but it
Speaker 1: was I think you did earlier, Mr Kay. I'm just mr.
Speaker 1: We'll go back in the edit his initial name. Okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really interesting because I had a band teacher. Huh wait,
Speaker 1: can we say this now, Michael. You don't have to
Speaker 1: you don't have to say no, say it. He was
Speaker 1: gonna say, what can we say it? Say it? Well,
Speaker 1: I won't say his name. The band teacher reach out
Speaker 1: to me recently. He was my band teacher for one
Speaker 1: year only, and I thought it was very nice. But
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about him in twenty years. Really, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it was very nice and very nice teacher. Um.
Speaker 1: And he found me on Twitter and he said I'm
Speaker 1: coming to see torch song and bright colors and bold patterns.
Speaker 1: And I was like, he lovely dead unless he's not gay.
Speaker 1: And then he just thinks he's coming gay talked to me.
Speaker 1: We talked and he gay. Well I I looked. I
Speaker 1: was like, well, what else does he do on Twitter?
Speaker 1: And it's all drag race and he likes that and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, so he's on Twitter as himself so like me,
Speaker 1: so he's out and which is also like you know
Speaker 1: that you know that he could because we were teachers
Speaker 1: that I knew that I that were gay and you
Speaker 1: couldn't be gay? Um, because then it's a whole controversy
Speaker 1: about why is that guy person teaching my can? That's fun,
Speaker 1: that's a fun character. I'm gonna rock this character up.
Speaker 1: What that gay person teaching my can flute? That my
Speaker 1: kid's gonna learn flute from a straight man? I can?
Speaker 1: I can just I can picture what do I look
Speaker 1: like the gout that you have? Um, that's lovely. Wait okay,
Speaker 1: really I pictured myself as really hot as that character,
Speaker 1: like stunning, but a guy like looking like looking German mulroney, honey,
Speaker 1: let's looking like ms Dermott, Oh my god, ms Dermot
Speaker 1: like in Denham Yeah, acid washed white beater and demon
Speaker 1: and Jack yes, but looking Dermott in the face and
Speaker 1: a Mullan and fun. I don't know why was the
Speaker 1: hottest person I could think of Dermot mulroney. I guess
Speaker 1: it checks out. Yeah, he's up there and really you think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, kind of kind of yeah, I see it.
Speaker 1: I'll take a strong nose, the strong brow, one of
Speaker 1: those face match apps. You're getting him. I would love
Speaker 1: to get that when I was in high school. When
Speaker 1: I was in high school and I got Robert pass
Speaker 1: I see that back when he was like all over
Speaker 1: the place and we were doing our hair the same way.
Speaker 1: I used to get him all the time. He was
Speaker 1: doing it like you all right, right right, all right.
Speaker 1: He saw me at my bus boy the job at
Speaker 1: the at the crab Shack one time. I was like,
Speaker 1: I think that's the way I'm gonna do my hair. Well,
Speaker 1: what's going to catch on with the team guys? But sparkly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you get I don't get anybody? You get? Who?
Speaker 1: Do I get? No? One? People? I was leading you
Speaker 1: into an answer. I truly don't have one, like that's
Speaker 1: normally would just fill in the blank. I just I
Speaker 1: don't have one. Somebody said Zachary Quinto to me one time,
Speaker 1: and I like that, that's fun. I really appreciated that eyebrows.
Speaker 1: I see it. Who do you get, I mean your yourself? Whatever?
Speaker 1: Who do you get? Are you Michael Urie? And you're like,
Speaker 1: you look like that guy a ugly Betty And I'm like, like, no,
Speaker 1: you're way too old. But yeah, people have said that.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you get any other celebs? Do you
Speaker 1: think I can't remember? I used to? I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like I used to get Oh. J C. He's
Speaker 1: hot from incenc he was on this side. I have
Speaker 1: totally asymmetrical phase. So on one side, I'm a leading man,
Speaker 1: but on the other side of the character I love
Speaker 1: that walks into a room a new casting office. Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you like on one side of the face
Speaker 1: for the part? Exactly depending on what I need? God
Speaker 1: a verse face. Yeah, you know who? You remind me
Speaker 1: of an energy. I don't know if you know this person,
Speaker 1: but you do. He reminds me of Lee over Tree,
Speaker 1: The over Tree. Oh, he wrote the musical Found you
Speaker 1: remind me of He's a good friend of us, and
Speaker 1: you remind me. It's a very good compliment, good, very
Speaker 1: good compliment. Yes, Matt loves Lee. I lovely too. We
Speaker 1: both lovely reminds you an energy like like I supposed
Speaker 1: to you look like this person. You remind me of
Speaker 1: this person. That's a difference. That's a whole Have ever
Speaker 1: played the game Essences? Okay? So Essences is a really
Speaker 1: fun game where basically like you explain it like like
Speaker 1: you pick a person that you all know and then
Speaker 1: you say, okay, got it. And then you say, okay,
Speaker 1: if this person were, um a type of color, what
Speaker 1: color other? And you say this person is red, and
Speaker 1: then they go okay, and then they have two more guesses,
Speaker 1: and they have two more things they can ask and
Speaker 1: then they have to guess. It's fun. It's a fun
Speaker 1: little it's a fun game. So someone in essence is
Speaker 1: different than someone like look, so you think of the
Speaker 1: person and then other people try to guess. Here, let's
Speaker 1: play right now. All right, Um, I'm I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: it an easy one. Okay, I have my person. Um.
Speaker 1: If this person were a franchise like a movie, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it's Star Wars. Okay. If this person were
Speaker 1: a Deli sandwich, I'm going to say, this person would
Speaker 1: be like a really like Ruben sandwich on Italian bread,
Speaker 1: like with the works. Got married, testa No, but that's
Speaker 1: actually really close. Think big celebrity. Okay, Patty LuPone bigger
Speaker 1: and yes, I said yes, I said that I went
Speaker 1: there hating. Okay, Okay, we have another question. You have
Speaker 1: another question. What you just asked was great. You get
Speaker 1: a one Reuben on Italian. Yeah, I'm saying you asked
Speaker 1: that was a great deli deli sand which is great.
Speaker 1: That's a really star wars that means, I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's a big, big star in an Italian Okay,
Speaker 1: I think. Okay, Um, if I was, if I was,
Speaker 1: if you were, I'm sorry to see, or he were,
Speaker 1: if this person were, if this person were a a U,
Speaker 1: if this person were away to die, what would it
Speaker 1: be a means of death? If this person were a
Speaker 1: way to die, it would be on national television. They
Speaker 1: would jump off a cruise liner, oh my god, and
Speaker 1: they would belt a note as they were the lady
Speaker 1: got no sea. Wonderful, wonderful. That was pretty good, right,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. That's pretty good. It's cathartic. We used
Speaker 1: to play a game called we called von Houston. My
Speaker 1: friends made it up, and you take it. You use
Speaker 1: a deck of cards and you lick the back and
Speaker 1: stick it to your forehead and then you ask those
Speaker 1: kind of qualitative questions, right, what's one? Yeah? And somebody
Speaker 1: had like a nine and and and they said I'm
Speaker 1: a clothing line and they're like, you're Von Houston And
Speaker 1: that's how the Von Houston. They're not even one of
Speaker 1: our sponsors. No, we have new sponsors. We are all kings,
Speaker 1: I'm sure and queens and queen's Um, should we move on?
Speaker 1: It's time to move on to We have a new segment.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but this segment
Speaker 1: is called voice meam, oh you bitch, where a favorite
Speaker 1: friend of the podcast will send in a voice memo
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, hi, spin a little tail and
Speaker 1: it looks like I'm our person who's sent in the
Speaker 1: memo misunderstood the assignment. So our friend Patty Harrison, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, former guests, great comedian, great comedian, she sent us, Um,
Speaker 1: she sent us a memo. But then she immediately said,
Speaker 1: oh ship, that was That wasn't meant for you guys.
Speaker 1: That was for someone else. And you know we were
Speaker 1: we were told not to play it, but we are
Speaker 1: going to play to play it. So um, This is
Speaker 1: from Patty Harrison. And again this was not meant for us,
Speaker 1: but we shall. We will play it anyway. I go, hey,
Speaker 1: mom Um, I just wanted to call. Oh. Sorry, leave
Speaker 1: you a voicemail. Umm. I wanted to say that I
Speaker 1: miss you and I'm sorry I haven't called recently. I've
Speaker 1: been really busy with work and the day to day stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't want to bore you. I guess um, you know.
Speaker 1: I I know people think I'm weird, and but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't care. I struggling. I wish
Speaker 1: I could hear your voice again and in person instead
Speaker 1: of having to hear it through your voice mail message.
Speaker 1: It's been six months since you've died, and hearing your
Speaker 1: voice on your voicemail is all I really have left. Oh,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. Okay, I know people think I'm
Speaker 1: crazy for leaving you in this voicemail, but sometimes it helps.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it helps me feel not so crazy. I never
Speaker 1: thought i'd lose you, and wow, this is I'm This
Speaker 1: is so hard and I can't keep leaving your leaving
Speaker 1: voicemails in your mailbox because it's gonna get full soon.
Speaker 1: But I just I wanted enough if you had the
Speaker 1: seventeen dollars that you borrowed from me before you passed,
Speaker 1: and if there's any way that I could get that back.
Speaker 1: Doesn't understand how I miss you so much and you're
Speaker 1: passing rocked my world and shook me to my core.
Speaker 1: And also I really need that seventeen you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know when you asked me to parts seventeen to
Speaker 1: get contact solution. I remember at first I said now,
Speaker 1: because I didn't think you were going to give it back,
Speaker 1: and also that you are terminally ill, and that I
Speaker 1: kind of predicted that you would die before you can
Speaker 1: pay me back. But I gave it to you animis
Speaker 1: because I had hope. I hope that you would get better,
Speaker 1: even though I knew it wasn't gonna happen, and sadly
Speaker 1: I was right. Oh so, and I guess I'm never
Speaker 1: that seventeen back. I don't think she's going to get
Speaker 1: it make a VENO request, So if you can open
Speaker 1: that up from wherever you are the payment, that would
Speaker 1: be great because I myself need contact solution because my
Speaker 1: contacts are getting pretty dirty. I know after you left,
Speaker 1: I'm having a real hard time taking around myself. M MF.
Speaker 1: I've been dunking my context in my own hot little
Speaker 1: lass little as really get them all wet that way,
Speaker 1: but making them dirty. Weirdly enough, it's making them dirtier
Speaker 1: and text back in my eyes. That is when things
Speaker 1: go bad. I get why doesn't get the kind of
Speaker 1: infection and both of my eyes. So I've got two
Speaker 1: infections and that's mainly because you know. Some would say
Speaker 1: that's mainly because I've been putting contacts in my asshole
Speaker 1: and been putting them directly into my eyes, and okay,
Speaker 1: but I think it's because I had a mom who
Speaker 1: fell through one a favor. I don't want to be Patty.
Speaker 1: Don't know. People already think I'm crazy. I'm standing here
Speaker 1: in line at Tivana having this conversation with you, and
Speaker 1: everyone's staring at me and pointing at me and my
Speaker 1: amazing tits and my big fat ass and my little
Speaker 1: little waist so small. Mom would be so proud it's
Speaker 1: got smaller since you've died. I don't know this is
Speaker 1: going a little long. I don't want to fill you.
Speaker 1: I love you, and I miss you every day, and
Speaker 1: I hope to join you soon. I love your mom. Wow,
Speaker 1: that was a voice she is. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I feel like all her problems are very fixable. I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's I'm genuine, I feel I feel for her.
Speaker 1: I just don't know what she what the aim was there?
Speaker 1: Her mother is not going to give her the seventeen dollars. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: she's not getting. No, she's not getting. And Patty, if
Speaker 1: you need us to spot you, we can give you
Speaker 1: the money. Patty. Okay, best, Well that's that's our voice memo,
Speaker 1: you bitch for this episode. Yes, thank you, Patty Harrison.
Speaker 1: Now let's close this. Let's close this out. Let's let's
Speaker 1: do some I don't think so, honey, Let's do some
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. So this is the segment
Speaker 1: you all fucking love, which is where we take one
Speaker 1: minute to rail against something, anything at all, in culture
Speaker 1: that is bothering us. It can be a pop cultural topic,
Speaker 1: it can be you know, oh my god. You know
Speaker 1: what we didn't do. We wouldn't ask Michael the question
Speaker 1: and what culture? What? What was the culture? You write? Okay, quickly,
Speaker 1: what was prepared? So sorry, okay, well ask the question, okay, Michael,
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say culture is
Speaker 1: for me, which means what was the piece, what was
Speaker 1: the cultural relic for you? It could be it could
Speaker 1: be a movie, a book, a play, anything at all
Speaker 1: that made you think I'm going to move in a
Speaker 1: cultural direction in my life. Um, that's a really interesting question.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I like it a lot. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you remember to ask you. Um, it
Speaker 1: was the movie Batman. Michael, here you were born. I
Speaker 1: was born after, right right after, right after the Keaton.
Speaker 1: Actually I was conceived during watching the Michael Keaton Batman.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a cultural turning point for you
Speaker 1: to absolutely one place. Once my mom saw that jawline
Speaker 1: in that suit, she said, get me home. I'm being
Speaker 1: Kim Bay singer tonight. Okay, gorgeous, Okay. Weren't Batman the
Speaker 1: movie Batman? I was nine years old and or eight,
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but I saw it in the theater
Speaker 1: and and and I love Batman because of the TV
Speaker 1: show with Adam and Adams sees a Romero as the
Speaker 1: as the Joker and Burgess Meredith is the Penguin and
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and the toys. I had the toys,
Speaker 1: and so I love Batman already, and so when the
Speaker 1: movie came out, I was very excited. And also my
Speaker 1: dad looked like Jack Nicholson. So it's all this stuff
Speaker 1: swirling around. Yeah, there's a lot of tons, like a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. And I love Beetle Juice, which had
Speaker 1: just come out right before he did, is a big one. Nice.
Speaker 1: And so did you continue to like the Batman Tim
Speaker 1: Burton Batman's and then the Joel Schumacher Batman's I yes,
Speaker 1: the second the Tim Burton Batman returns his excellence and
Speaker 1: Batman Forever is okay, it's fine. Batman Robin is a
Speaker 1: true disaster, but beautiful in its own right. It is
Speaker 1: come on, okay, I'll tell you. I'll tell you the
Speaker 1: gag of Batman and Robin Alicia Silverson's sleepy performance Uncle Alfred,
Speaker 1: her running out Uncle Alfred. It's fun. She brought a
Speaker 1: little bit of share horrowitz, Oh did she a little bit?
Speaker 1: Miss Silverstone was doing share horrow. It's a lot in
Speaker 1: the nineties. I love. There was a moment in that
Speaker 1: movie where they're writing a motorcycle on a statue and
Speaker 1: they jumped from one statue to another statue on a
Speaker 1: motorcycle statue the size of a skyscraper. Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's not even in the top ten things that are
Speaker 1: like what is going on? What about the nipples to
Speaker 1: as well? They were in Forever there Ms Kilmers with
Speaker 1: Ms Kilmer and Dr Chase Meridian Nicole first, my first
Speaker 1: intro to Nicole really and and Dr Chase Meridy and
Speaker 1: Jim Carey's the Riddler says, and what a grand pursuit
Speaker 1: you must be. Oh, he's very good in that. He
Speaker 1: is very good. Tommy ly Jones is the speed bump
Speaker 1: in that movie. He's a little out of control, Little
Speaker 1: Tommi ly Jones is Tommy Jones amped up, isn't back?
Speaker 1: You gotta have him the fugitive at the Fugitive, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: Tommy ly Jones kind of sitting back in his own
Speaker 1: staunch in his truth is what I want. I don't
Speaker 1: want a comic book film totally. And then thank god
Speaker 1: for Aaron at Cart to ground that character. Do you
Speaker 1: remember the glamour, the glamour of Nicole Kimmon giving you
Speaker 1: the kind of Veronica dr stunning, stunning. I think that
Speaker 1: might have been a moment of culture for me. Is
Speaker 1: like looking at like the VHS cover of the movie
Speaker 1: and seeing Nicole kim in and being like, I'm her,
Speaker 1: you were hurt her abouelle pipe for Batman returns. I
Speaker 1: don't think I knew I was her yet. I don't,
Speaker 1: but I would become her later. But but looking at Nicole,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm I'm her. Wow, Wow, very good.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We talked about this on another podcast
Speaker 1: the other day. I had like I had like a
Speaker 1: fixation on damsels and distresses. Yeah, damsels in distresses. I
Speaker 1: had a fixation on the damsel in distresses. But I
Speaker 1: always wanted to be there and like especially when they
Speaker 1: looked like that, like miss Nicole was stunning. And I
Speaker 1: remember I always wanted to be in a scenario where
Speaker 1: I was in one tube and someone else was in
Speaker 1: another two and there was a releasing moment and someone
Speaker 1: had to make a choice and they picked me choose
Speaker 1: both because I am both. Yeah, right, beautiful experience. It
Speaker 1: is experience, yes, But the first Batman is was really
Speaker 1: That's when I was like, this is I want to
Speaker 1: I wanna I want to think like this, And you know,
Speaker 1: then that movie came out, it was thought of as
Speaker 1: very dark, yeah. Yeah. And then the Christopher Nolan when
Speaker 1: came along and is actually great. When you look back
Speaker 1: at their Batman with Michael Keaton, it's Michael Keaton is serious.
Speaker 1: I guess it was because we knew Michael Keaton as
Speaker 1: a comedian and then he played Batman and he was
Speaker 1: very serious. He was a comedian before that, he was
Speaker 1: in Mr. Mom and and Beetle Juice and stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always forget that goof And then he did Batman
Speaker 1: and he was like serious Batman Bruce Wayne and and
Speaker 1: so people thought it was dark. There needs to be
Speaker 1: a degree of humor. I think in those movies the
Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan wants. Even those they had like there was
Speaker 1: something about them. There was like some cheeky stuff in there,
Speaker 1: like what like I don't know, remember the scene where
Speaker 1: like um uh, Christian Bale is like tucking hath a
Speaker 1: way on the roof and then he turns around and
Speaker 1: she's gone and he goes. That happens to me a
Speaker 1: lot or something like oh no, he goes. So that's
Speaker 1: what that feels was like or and I was in
Speaker 1: the audience like yeah, yeah, no, that that was a
Speaker 1: good joke. I remember that. That was it. I did
Speaker 1: think of my impression, that was very good. But they weren't.
Speaker 1: In the first Batman there was Batman beyond that or whatever.
Speaker 1: It wasn't there anything funny in that. Actually, Katie Holmes,
Speaker 1: they scripted that as a comedic performance. She just didn't
Speaker 1: nail it. Maggie gyllen Hall goes for it and hilarious
Speaker 1: comedic toward Force, She's like, She's like, He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: meeting the commissioner tonight. He's like, She's like, oh, Jim Gordon,
Speaker 1: he's a friend. Actual, yeah, wow. When that when she
Speaker 1: blew up in that movie, I gained so much respect
Speaker 1: for that movie because I was like, no other super
Speaker 1: would ever kill off exactly. They would never dr Chase Meridian,
Speaker 1: would never hit the rocks. Sure that that was That's
Speaker 1: the same character, Katie Holmes, and maybe so they replaced her.
Speaker 1: They killed her, that's what they thoughts. And then they
Speaker 1: replaced her with Ha And then of course what was
Speaker 1: also in that movie was Ha, which is miss Mary,
Speaker 1: miss Marian who who did? She actually shades that movie
Speaker 1: a lot in interviews. Do you want to know why
Speaker 1: why she goes? I gave them a lot of takes
Speaker 1: of me dying, and they used the shittiest one, Like
Speaker 1: the way she dies in the movie is like, like,
Speaker 1: it's really shitty. And she says in interviews, like several interviews,
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, I don't like to talk about that
Speaker 1: movie because the take they used of me dying is
Speaker 1: so fucking insane. She says, it much more like in
Speaker 1: French than I could ever could. But like and then
Speaker 1: she was like, and did the two towers and did
Speaker 1: the twin towers? Actually she's famously yeah, it's very funny.
Speaker 1: What about the new bat Man? Oh, Hard passed? Haven't
Speaker 1: seen Justice League? Haven't seen that hard Justice League? There
Speaker 1: was Suicide Squad? Was he in that for a second?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not I'm not a Ben Affleck fan,
Speaker 1: um and I don't. But I don't think that's that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine. It's my right to not be a Ben
Speaker 1: Affleck fan. I don't know. It's you're right, and you're right.
Speaker 1: It's my right and right. But the thing is, I
Speaker 1: we'll go see the movies because it is Batman, and
Speaker 1: I enjoy the other people in the movies, like I
Speaker 1: love him, I love hims. Golf's good, but I did
Speaker 1: see Joel and I saw Justice League and we liked it.
Speaker 1: But he is not He's not Batman. He's just not Batman.
Speaker 1: You know what I like about that what they did
Speaker 1: in Justice League, But not a lot. But I did
Speaker 1: like that Batman was old and yeah, kept getting hurt fun.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, He kept like me like
Speaker 1: you know, yes, he was going through it. And also
Speaker 1: very interesting there's a scene in Justice League where him
Speaker 1: and Gaul are like down and like the bunker and
Speaker 1: he's like, let's have a drink and he pours himself
Speaker 1: a scotch and let me tell you, he brought himself
Speaker 1: to the part. He poured himself a quite drupel. Honey.
Speaker 1: He's like, let's have a casual drink. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: my proper work is the most truthful thing. It was
Speaker 1: fucking crazy that the size of the drinking part himself
Speaker 1: and he and he goes like would you like a drink?
Speaker 1: And she's like no. And you could tell this a
Speaker 1: little bit of performance, which is like, oh God, just
Speaker 1: gus really diving in. But you know what I also
Speaker 1: like in that movie is Green Lantern. No, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: the Flash. Yeah, And also he was hot, yes as cute, yes, funny,
Speaker 1: and then Billy Crudup who plays his dad, so good,
Speaker 1: give it to me, Billy Billy. Have you seen Harry
Speaker 1: Clark and Harry Harry Clark One Man Show playing at
Speaker 1: the theater? I never, I've never seen him on posters.
Speaker 1: Very good. I love him because he was in a movie,
Speaker 1: um about that I used to watch all the time
Speaker 1: in high school, The Runner. Yeah, he was also which
Speaker 1: is also miss marian marian Um playing the French wife.
Speaker 1: Um wait, wait what were gonna say? Mr Billy Crudup
Speaker 1: was in a movie called Without Limits, which is a
Speaker 1: really good movie about the Fonte and a famous distance runner.
Speaker 1: And I ran tracking high school. So you're like the Flash.
Speaker 1: I'm a lot like the Flash Flash. Yeah, when you
Speaker 1: put me in the suit, my body looks exactly like that.
Speaker 1: I in fact, I told them stop using my body
Speaker 1: as inspiration for these two guys. You know what, I'm
Speaker 1: my celebrity dopper ganger, doppleganger. It's coming back to me?
Speaker 1: Is Billy crude Up? Oh yeah, I see, I know
Speaker 1: it's Billy. It's more it's like middle aged Billy like
Speaker 1: post not even middle age. It's just post almost famous Billy,
Speaker 1: that's my that's my doppelganger. Okay, let's do I don't
Speaker 1: think so so yet again. I'll explain. It's one minute
Speaker 1: when you take it to rale against culture, that was
Speaker 1: like a disgusting conglomeration of words in a side. You
Speaker 1: know what I don't think so, honey? Is so? Um?
Speaker 1: I have one? Do you want to do? You want
Speaker 1: me to start this time? I would love it if
Speaker 1: you started. Okay, do you want to phone? Okay, so
Speaker 1: this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey, and
Speaker 1: his time will start now. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: The Senate Judiciary Committee, the Zuckerberg hearings, or the one
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg hearing they had yesterday was a fucking joke, or
Speaker 1: and Hatch, you're fucking busted. You're an idiot. He asked Zuckerberg,
Speaker 1: how do you expect to keep to keep a platform
Speaker 1: that's free? And then Zuckerberg literally like his robot brain
Speaker 1: glitched out for a second and he was like, will
Speaker 1: you run ads, sir? Like how is how is Congress
Speaker 1: supposed to hold the tech world accountable if they don't
Speaker 1: understand how these products sessions go off, Queen, it's a joke.
Speaker 1: Chuck Grassley, you're fucking busted. Two year old Aid wrote
Speaker 1: you your opening remarks and you could barely read honey off,
Speaker 1: We're gonna put you go back to Iowa. And you
Speaker 1: know what, I want you to just just blend in
Speaker 1: with the corn or whatever goes on over there. I
Speaker 1: want you to like literally just like go back to
Speaker 1: once you came and just like I want your ashes
Speaker 1: to be spread into cornfield. That's beautiful, and I wish
Speaker 1: you the best. And that's one minute. I wish Chuck
Speaker 1: Grassley the best, even though he's a poison. And I
Speaker 1: have yet to sit down and watch the Senate Judiciary.
Speaker 1: They're boring, but like they are, they're boring, but it
Speaker 1: is staggering how how inept they are. They don't get it.
Speaker 1: They don't get it. They don't get it at all.
Speaker 1: They're like, so, so they're like, why can't so what's
Speaker 1: the top eight? Well no, no, no, shut up, um, someone,
Speaker 1: how do I change my top eight? Who's Tom? Everyone
Speaker 1: everyone is like every today was the House, but yesterday
Speaker 1: in the Senate, everyone was just like, well can't you
Speaker 1: can't you monitor every single data just transaction, and like
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg had to be like, well, no, you don't
Speaker 1: understand that we have two billion users. There are billions
Speaker 1: of these like communications and transfers every single second, Like
Speaker 1: there's no way we can track all of these and
Speaker 1: that we know where this is all going. And like
Speaker 1: these people just don't get like the people who are
Speaker 1: supposed to sort of in some way legislate this don't
Speaker 1: understand how it works. It's got to be very frustrating.
Speaker 1: It's it's sad. Anyway, I wanted to I just wanted
Speaker 1: to read Chuck Grassley and or in Hatch to drag her,
Speaker 1: drag her. Those two are really really old, real old.
Speaker 1: Oh they're so old, they're really old. Not to be agist,
Speaker 1: but Chuck Grassley, girl, you've gotta moisturize. Bitch. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, and his
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, Honey. Instagram pushing
Speaker 1: all the first traps to the top of my feed. Bitch, Okay,
Speaker 1: you are really trying to get me the act a
Speaker 1: fool and slip and fall into some d m s.
Speaker 1: I get it. Everyone looks good right now. Notice I
Speaker 1: don't say I don't think so, honey. People posting thirst
Speaker 1: traps because I feel that you have the freedom to
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. Honey, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Instagrams for trying to get me to look foolish because nothing.
Speaker 1: Literally I'm on the subway getting here and I pulled
Speaker 1: out my Insta game and the first picture was the
Speaker 1: guy I went on a date with a long time ago,
Speaker 1: like with the nipples out. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it looks good. And before I double tapped, I was like, no,
Speaker 1: you act like a crazy person. I was, and I
Speaker 1: stopped myself. I was just like everyone relaxed. Instagram. I
Speaker 1: think that we need more pictures of flowers. I think
Speaker 1: we mean more pictures that are going to temper the situation.
Speaker 1: The situation meaning me hitting up literally everyone in my feed.
Speaker 1: I'm single going on a year now, um, and the
Speaker 1: thing is I'm nervous about making here. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Everyone's posting their thirst traps right now. I think a
Speaker 1: spring is sprung. Yeah. But but but you're blaming Instagram.
Speaker 1: But I'm blaming Instagram because it's almost as do you
Speaker 1: think Instagram watches me and sees what I like, that's
Speaker 1: absolutely what's happening matter the fact that you're liking the
Speaker 1: thirst traps, which means that Instagram has like literal algorithms
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, this is a picture of a shirt.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh you think so absolutely? You think they
Speaker 1: know that specifically, Yes, it's the whole. It's the whole
Speaker 1: they know. That's what this whole hearing is about. That.
Speaker 1: It's all about how how people they show you exactly
Speaker 1: what they want you to see. I was just talking
Speaker 1: to the people about um last night. I was talking
Speaker 1: to the producers of torts song and about online ads
Speaker 1: and they can they can chappen. I'm just a little
Speaker 1: chapp chap. They can. They they will uh, they will
Speaker 1: find out who you are and what you like and
Speaker 1: what you are, and they will uh and what you
Speaker 1: are you are and they will cater ads to you.
Speaker 1: That's I'll get a different ad than my parents. Well yeah, right.
Speaker 1: I had a phone conversation one time, I think with
Speaker 1: you where I mentioned some products or you know what.
Speaker 1: It was mac Weldon because we did ads from mac Weldon,
Speaker 1: the like men's clothing company for a little while. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I never searched. Mac Weldon never did anything.
Speaker 1: It was like a conversation we had had before we
Speaker 1: were doing the ads. Then popped up all over my
Speaker 1: Instagram mack Weldon, mac Weldon, mac Weldon. It was almost
Speaker 1: like they I said it in my phone. It heard
Speaker 1: me say it, I mean. And then also you know that,
Speaker 1: like it's all connected. So someone that you even look
Speaker 1: up on Instagram comes up as a suggested friend on Facebook. Yes,
Speaker 1: you got you gotta read up on this, on this stuff, baby, this,
Speaker 1: this is what word, this is what the whole thing
Speaker 1: is about. Someone I know who works in TV said
Speaker 1: they had a meeting at work and they were advised
Speaker 1: by the producers of the show to tape over their camera.
Speaker 1: And they were like, is that a real thing? And
Speaker 1: they were like, more than likely it is a real thing. Yes.
Speaker 1: You watch Black Mirror. I'm too freaking scared of that.
Speaker 1: I watched the Blaite Bryce styles Howard episode that's a
Speaker 1: really sad one. There's an episode about it about a camera,
Speaker 1: a computer camera that is very messed up. I heard
Speaker 1: the episode that came out this year with Kristin Miliotti
Speaker 1: and like the Star Trek one I heard that was
Speaker 1: really good, fantastic. Yeah. I love miss Kristen. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: she's so good. I gotta watch it. I gotta watch it.
Speaker 1: I would like to watch it too. I just damn it.
Speaker 1: It's very Did you watch Handmaid's Tale? I made it
Speaker 1: through four episodes of it, and it got to be
Speaker 1: overwhelming because it's so upsetting. It was so much. I
Speaker 1: felt like it was real. I mean it really did
Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah. I mean I remember reading the
Speaker 1: book like five years ago and being like, I can't
Speaker 1: do this. So that's my relationship. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to read right now, A Little Life. I'm reading
Speaker 1: like three pages at the time. I tried. I got
Speaker 1: it for Ryan, for my partner Ryan for Christmas one year.
Speaker 1: I was like, you you like this? And he suddenly
Speaker 1: he like, He's like oh great. And then suddenly it
Speaker 1: was on the shelf and I was like, did you
Speaker 1: finish it? And he's like, no, I can't. I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't. And then and then I just went on
Speaker 1: a reading kick and I was like, I'm gonna read
Speaker 1: A Little Life because everybody I know was like this
Speaker 1: is And so I picked it up and I get
Speaker 1: one page in and I'm one page. I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to thirty. I almost had an anxiety attack
Speaker 1: on the plane. Yeah, I can't. I was like, I
Speaker 1: can't not do this. I was crying. Yeah. The person
Speaker 1: next to me was like, I can't get it together.
Speaker 1: I'd like to read End of the World books. My
Speaker 1: sister and I trade End of the World books. That's
Speaker 1: way better, that's actually to me than like then like
Speaker 1: looking into my soul. I'd much rather like imagine what
Speaker 1: I would be like in a in a scary situation
Speaker 1: than read about what my life is really like. Okay,
Speaker 1: but not way. You're still confronting something about yourself. I
Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful. Michael. I support that. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: this is Michael Euris. I don't think so when I
Speaker 1: support this, I support this, Michael Lary, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. How
Speaker 1: can he possibly president? This man has so many scandals,
Speaker 1: he has broken so many laws. There are so many
Speaker 1: dogs sniffing up his ass right now. Earth is he
Speaker 1: supposed to even think about Syria? And how are any
Speaker 1: of us supposed to believe that he is? How are
Speaker 1: any of us supposed to trust that anybody is president
Speaker 1: right now, that that he can possibly and how can
Speaker 1: anybody have a conversation with him without talking about the
Speaker 1: myriad scandals that he has going on? And how on
Speaker 1: earth is he thinking about what we need about about
Speaker 1: our health care, about our taxes, about about our infrastructure,
Speaker 1: and and and and the roads, and the and the
Speaker 1: things that he has promised and the wall. Let's even
Speaker 1: talk about the crazy things he wants to do. How
Speaker 1: can he think about those when literally three times a
Speaker 1: day he's the top story, breaking story, and it's about
Speaker 1: how illegal his activities have been. Oh gorgeous, And that's one.
Speaker 1: Did you see CNN reports he's more popular now in
Speaker 1: the last two weeks his popularity, he's like it went
Speaker 1: up like three or four points. Some the funk? How
Speaker 1: was it the raid? Well, here's the thing, probably because
Speaker 1: it couldn't have gotten lower. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's that wouldn't have been the raid. The raid
Speaker 1: must be next because the polling is behind in that.
Speaker 1: Oh right, right, right, right, right, Um, we have yet
Speaker 1: to see that. The response of America to that, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but CNN, who I trust? They said his
Speaker 1: popularity is up, while Republicans like like it doesn't look
Speaker 1: good for them. I mean, Paul Ryan today announced he
Speaker 1: wasn't huge, and Paul Ryant is what twelve years old?
Speaker 1: Has fifty more years that he could? Mean, we see
Speaker 1: how old these people get. We see how old or
Speaker 1: and Hatch and Chuck Grassley are and Ms McConnell like
Speaker 1: he he has fifty more years. She's only forty eight
Speaker 1: years old. He could be Senator for another thirty forty years.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Congress. He could be representative for another uh
Speaker 1: thirty or forty years and he is leaving because it's
Speaker 1: such because he has such a little chance because he
Speaker 1: stood by this man for two years. No way he
Speaker 1: could be president now. It was all he wanted. He
Speaker 1: didn't even get what he would He didn't even like
Speaker 1: bring down the deficit, which is the only thing he
Speaker 1: wanted to do. This tax plan is a is bullshed.
Speaker 1: I think he would have he would have stayed in
Speaker 1: if the polling in his state wasn't so bad. I
Speaker 1: was in Wisconsin doing I did a Paul Ryan like impression.
Speaker 1: I did like a thing as Paul Ryan for this
Speaker 1: like nonprofit and it was We talked to a lot
Speaker 1: of people in like Madison, and he is not popular
Speaker 1: at he was he was probably gonna just resign anyway
Speaker 1: and not seek re election anyway. But people were saying
Speaker 1: that he wasn't going to do until after mid terms.
Speaker 1: But now the fact that he's announcing it, that he's
Speaker 1: that it's coming out before the mid terms must mean
Speaker 1: that he's getting really bad internal he's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: have no chance he's gonna run and then resign. What
Speaker 1: they were saying so that at least it wouldn't like
Speaker 1: create this Paul over the rest of the party going
Speaker 1: into the elector. His name is Ryan. Honey, there's a Paul.
Speaker 1: And it's because of the absence of Paul. There you go,
Speaker 1: and you know what, here's the thing. Everyone's just like
Speaker 1: they smell they smell blood in the water. Well no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's just if Trump fires Rod Rosenstein and then goes
Speaker 1: on to fire Bob Muller, then like it's done. He
Speaker 1: can't fire It's I mean, but like, how many clear
Speaker 1: how many clear instances of obstruction of justice do we exactly?
Speaker 1: It's like they're already all there. It's like, but this
Speaker 1: is just the I mean that would be like the
Speaker 1: actual moment of political suicide, where it's like, Okay, you
Speaker 1: actually sucked yourself over. This is blatantly because if he
Speaker 1: fires Rod Rosens and then puts in, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Jared Kushner, then Jared Kushner could either fire h Mueller
Speaker 1: or when Mueller's report is made, not share it with anybody. Yes,
Speaker 1: because it's up to the attorney the attorney general, but
Speaker 1: the attorney general to share that information. Right. But then
Speaker 1: it's like, but then whatever happens like post mid terms,
Speaker 1: like if Democrats skin control of both houses, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're impeached by But also that doesn't have anything to
Speaker 1: do with b I and sorry that the Mueller investigation
Speaker 1: doesn't actually have anything to do except that they discovered
Speaker 1: it and passed it on to they refer to New
Speaker 1: York Attorney General exactly. And so now this whole Stormy
Speaker 1: Daniels rating Michael Cohen thing is actually not necessarily that
Speaker 1: might that has nothing to do with Mueller. So Muller
Speaker 1: Mueller's work gets stopped, that scandal might still take him
Speaker 1: down campaign. Finally, thing which is you know, which is
Speaker 1: which is how they took you know, they took down
Speaker 1: al Capone because of taxes. They impeached Bill Clinton because
Speaker 1: of a blow job, but that that was that came
Speaker 1: out of an investigation about something else. Entirely. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of ways we could get to where we need
Speaker 1: to get to. It's just a matter of thanks to
Speaker 1: him breaking every blow he could exactly and are the
Speaker 1: people around him gonna do what's best for the country
Speaker 1: and be transparent about the information that's and he's surrounded
Speaker 1: himself with people that will cover for him. So as
Speaker 1: we've seen, they will go, they will go all the
Speaker 1: way down. Yeah, the gorgeous I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: So many scals. Remember when the whole countries was like
Speaker 1: a thing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like we
Speaker 1: forget and now I think I'm I literally think we
Speaker 1: must be hundreds of scandals deep, like it's every other day,
Speaker 1: to the point where it's like grab him by the pussy,
Speaker 1: like stands out as like a landmark one. But that's
Speaker 1: not even Well that one came back today, Did you
Speaker 1: get that? Yeah, because that's Hollywood stuff. Was what they
Speaker 1: were looking for, because yeah, it seems like Michael Cohen
Speaker 1: tried to pay pay whoever had that tape off to
Speaker 1: suppress it. Yes, that was what came out today. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you, today was a hot day for the View.
Speaker 1: I said, today was a steaming hot day for the View.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it today. Primary source of news, the View.
Speaker 1: I love thee I love the View because today was
Speaker 1: Mariah Oh right, very proud of you, Maria. Proud of Maria.
Speaker 1: Come on, come with the truth. The truth will set
Speaker 1: you free and put it in the music. Girl, That's
Speaker 1: why we love you. Um, we welcome you back, holding
Speaker 1: honey with open arms. She didn't. Oh, I started too high, honey,
Speaker 1: so now come to you had to add a little
Speaker 1: different Maria. Course. Um. Anyway, hot day for news, on
Speaker 1: the hot day for news. Can't wait to see Megan's take. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: thoughts on Megan Cane. He looked away. He looked away.
Speaker 1: She's a tough one. I try so hard. I try
Speaker 1: so hard. I want to I wanna, I want to understand.
Speaker 1: But then she said, um, my celebrity crushes Paul Ryan,
Speaker 1: and I was like, fuck you. Yeah, she said they
Speaker 1: were talking about their celebrity crushes and like Sonny and
Speaker 1: I think, um, what's her name is? Sarah Haynes were like,
Speaker 1: we like Idris Elba and they were in the audience
Speaker 1: is like and then Megan goes, I like Paul Ryan
Speaker 1: and they were like and there was like a groan
Speaker 1: from the audience. It was so fun. That's really good. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, this was what a black can
Speaker 1: we say? Shout out to Dan Fortune for having the
Speaker 1: best clients, Dan Fortune Papasist Extraordinair and this has been
Speaker 1: so fun. Guys, this is a good podcast. It was
Speaker 1: so much fun. Well, I mean, I mean the whole thing,
Speaker 1: not just my episode. Thank you. So we've both been
Speaker 1: a fan for a long time and we cannot wait
Speaker 1: to see you in Torch Song than you and um,
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about bright Colis and both patterns, but
Speaker 1: it was truly incredible. We just closed on Sunday. We
Speaker 1: filmed it. It's gonna be on Broadway HD y yes sometimes,
Speaker 1: and Drew came back and did that. Yes. So Jeff
Speaker 1: closed last week and then Drew came back and did
Speaker 1: a week and we filmed it for Broadway HD on Monday,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be out sometime this summer. It's so
Speaker 1: great to see two. I'm telling you nightmare nasty, just nasty,
Speaker 1: not nice, not I mean the talent whatever. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: no to glorious, gorgeous. I know when you to direct them,
Speaker 1: the egos, the ledges, I talked them all unbelievable. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Want to do this alright, So this
Speaker 1: is last coach you guys. We're gonna be out in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and we're doing a show on June twelve
Speaker 1: at Echo Plaque. I thought somebody remind me of wait,
Speaker 1: what your essence me? Yes, and you kind of look
Speaker 1: like him. He's this friend of mine who is very funny,
Speaker 1: very adorable and one of my favorite people. We're gonna
Speaker 1: look at, We're gonna look at miss Ficus. And that
Speaker 1: feels like a compliment. So thank you, Michael. I think
Speaker 1: it was a deep compliment, deep compliment. Yes, absolutely, we're
Speaker 1: in l A. We're in l A on the twelve, honey.
Speaker 1: We're in San Francisco doing Clusterfest on uh June second,
Speaker 1: and we'll be at Vulture Fest, may I believe. Well,
Speaker 1: lots of really fun stuff coming up. You guys, so
Speaker 1: so fun, love you so thank you so much. To
Speaker 1: Michael Eury. Let's close out with the song yeah so now,
Speaker 1: Yes too much, I'm so sick gorgeous, Bye Bye. This
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