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Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. So it's just a flat plans with the

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Speaker 1: seen cases where fuel trims on these trucks are skewed.

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Speaker 1: I have seen them do some weird things. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: have for these past twenty five plus years to everybody.

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Speaker 1: and we hope to continue to do so for a

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Speaker 1: long long time. More information about this radio show, of course,

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Speaker 1: from car Doctor Show dot com and that you can

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Speaker 1: do it any which way you want. And that's what

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Speaker 1: this radio show is all about. We're trying to make

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Speaker 1: it easier for you to relate and communicate to that

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Speaker 1: thing in your driveway we call an automobile. You've heard

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Speaker 1: me talk about, you know, end of days, No, not

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Speaker 1: those end of days, Not that story but the end

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Speaker 1: of days of auto repair and that you've heard me

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Speaker 1: of late talk about some of the things that I've

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Speaker 1: commented on my wife and I have seen from television

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Speaker 1: ads about cars itself park, self drive, self break. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, they seem to do everything but pay for themselves.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's when they'll figure out how to do that.

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Speaker 1: You know. I wonder that they'll ever come where you'll

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Speaker 1: walk into the show room, they'll scan your thumb print. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's you, let's see do you have enough money in

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Speaker 1: the bank or what's your credit rating? Just think about it.

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Speaker 1: Eliminate paper all together. But I'm off on a tangent.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine that have are happening and not in

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Speaker 1: my lifetime. But my point is the technology that's there

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Speaker 1: even on today's show, right I think the news car

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Speaker 1: we had it was four escape in the last hour

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Speaker 1: and it was a question about maintenance. It was a

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Speaker 1: question about how often to flash the computer. And then

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Speaker 1: after that it was a two thousand and eight Oh

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Speaker 1: we had a Dodge Challenger that was our Diablo sport winner.

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Speaker 1: Last hour. Um a woman Gail called in with some

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Speaker 1: that being said, my point is the newer cars are

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Speaker 1: I get it, he's not in tune to his car.

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Speaker 1: And again no pun intended, and he's not paying attention.

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Speaker 1: But the car was four thousand miles over do. It

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Speaker 1: You know if if you're a parent, you wouldn't. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're a parent and you're rational, you wouldn't send

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Speaker 1: You might if you're an idiot, and that's always possible,

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Speaker 1: but you know most people aren't like that. Take care

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a fair statement either. I've

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Speaker 1: gotten some cars that are pretty rough too, so maybe

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Speaker 1: that's not the right idea, But you get what I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to say, right, It's just it's just common sense.

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Speaker 1: I was reading the trends this week and a lot

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Speaker 1: of conversation again vehicle manufacturers having issues with timing chains

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Speaker 1: and call them what part you want, but intake valve controls.

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Speaker 1: bypass solenoids. Everything is related to valve train and as

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Speaker 1: lack of maintenance. You know, it's funny. They they've really

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Speaker 1: the engineers for the oil change went to change the

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Speaker 1: whatever the number was, and if you consistently went to twelve,

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Speaker 1: me is the eight or ten thousand miles that they're

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Speaker 1: people the variation of that extra two give them some

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Speaker 1: tight standard. But my point is you've got the power

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Speaker 1: if you don't, I think you're headed for a big

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Speaker 1: fall somewhere else down the line. Interesting article from Ford

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Speaker 1: Motor Company. By the way, in a copy of my Ford.

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Speaker 1: We get it at the house because of escape in

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Speaker 1: the family. Can I get real time diagnostics from my vehicle?

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Speaker 1: And the article talks about the last thing you need

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Speaker 1: you're in a hurry to work in the morning, is

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Speaker 1: car troubled? To help avoid unwelcome surprise, is Ford created

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Speaker 1: the in sync Vehicle Health Report, which gives you an

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Speaker 1: up to date some of your vehicles health. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of car companies are doing this.

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Speaker 1: Ford didn't reinvent the wheel here, but look at what

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Speaker 1: this does. Now, think about this. Right in nineteen sixty eight,

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Speaker 1: was a window sticker, the sticker on Who remembers oil

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Speaker 1: change stickers on the door jam? Anybody? Right? Yeah? Remember

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Speaker 1: oil chain stickers on the door jam? Forget put them

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Speaker 1: there was always oil chain stickers on the doorjym. The

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Speaker 1: for used cars. You'd open the door to see what

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Speaker 1: And back then you had to change oil every fifteen

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Speaker 1: hundred miles or two thousand miles um. But this article

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Speaker 1: help including brakes, oil and fluids, transmission, engine recalls and more.

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Speaker 1: This tool available on two thousand nine and up. Model

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Speaker 1: my Ford Touch can help you save on repairs by

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Speaker 1: giving me a heads up before small problems turn serious.

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Speaker 1: So you go in, you log in on a website.

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Speaker 1: Look how interactive everything is, right with cars? So you

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Speaker 1: and it will then keep track based on your serial

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Speaker 1: number and looking at the car, communicating with your car

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Speaker 1: what sort of maintenances do And of course the mechanics

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Speaker 1: software update information through my sync. So again, if you

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Speaker 1: following show. Let's get over and talk to Rick Lacrosse,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help Ricky?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your show. Um, my first time I've called in,

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Speaker 1: but I've really enjoyed your advice over the years, especially

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Speaker 1: Right now, let's go over to the phones and let's

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's a somber reminder, but let's not forget

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Speaker 1: glad to have with us here today. Josh here's he

430
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Speaker 1: is a field support specialist from the folks over at

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Speaker 1: Johnson Controls. Were glad to have me here with us

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Speaker 1: on the card, Doctor Josh, welcome aboards her, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me Um. Nobody like sudden battery failure, right,

434
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: and it's it's that sinking feeling if you go out

435
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: there and you're expecting to go somewhere and boom, nothing happens.

436
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 1: What differentiates batteries with power frame grid technology from other batteries,

437
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: because that's really what it's about today. I talk about

438
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: powerframe grid technology all the time, and it's it's strength

439
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: and why it's here Um. That makes a big difference,

440
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: doesn't it. Sure? Absolutely, yep, there's Uh. There's three main

441
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: benefits to power frame technology, and the first one is

442
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: that that grid is structurally strong. It's about sixty six

443
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: percent more durable and more resistant to corrosion than other

444
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: grid designs, which you know ultimately it's just going to

445
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: give you longer life, and it needs to more of

446
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: a gradual deterioration as opposed to a sudden surprise. And

447
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: that surprises what gets you when it doesn't start. Absolutely,

448
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: batteries don't fail when it's convenient. It's always you're you're

449
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Speaker 1: late for something and you're trying to get the kids

450
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Speaker 1: to school something like that. It never happens at a

451
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: good time, so trying to avoid that is key. UM.

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Speaker 1: The second benefit to power frame is that that grid

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Speaker 1: is pattern for power just meeting. The grid has been

454
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Speaker 1: computer optimized to give you se better electrical flow, which

455
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 1: gives you superior starting performance and allows for more consistent

456
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Speaker 1: starting UM. And then the third benefit is it's a

457
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Speaker 1: clean construction. That stamp grid manufacturing process produces about fewer

458
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Speaker 1: greenhouse gases and less waste than other manufacturing processes do,

459
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Speaker 1: so UH it's a power frame really just gives you

460
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Speaker 1: longer life. Um, you know, better batteries and the manufacturing

461
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: process is better for the environment. So I guess yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: when you're when you think about how many batteries are

463
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Speaker 1: made in the country today, right, greenhouse gas manufacturing and

464
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Speaker 1: worrying about the environment, that's a big plus. Absolutely. Um,

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00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: that's that's a very important piece for us, especially with

466
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Speaker 1: Johnson Controls, is you know, manufacturing those those lead plates

467
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Speaker 1: the batteries in a very environmentally responsible fashion. And that's

468
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: that's something we pride ourselves on. The stamping process, Josh. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, how is it more advanced than other grid

470
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Speaker 1: manufacturing processes. I mean, how did you guys make it different? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Really that that stamping process just allows for a more

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Speaker 1: consistent grid design. Uh. There's there's a lot of reasons

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Speaker 1: that batteries are going to fail. The number one reason

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Speaker 1: is positive gride corrosion. UM. In the stamping process that

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Speaker 1: we use, is it to minimize that corrosion so that

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Speaker 1: your battery is going to perform more consistently. Uh. One

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00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: of the words we are terms we talk about is

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Speaker 1: porosity or how much air is actually inside that lead plate. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, the more air that's in there, the easier

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Speaker 1: it is for that corrosion to work inside that lead.

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Speaker 1: And that's what you get when you use more of

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Speaker 1: a poured mold grid, where you know, you take hot lead,

483
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Speaker 1: you pour it into a mold. It's it's very porous.

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Speaker 1: What we do with that stamp design, the first step

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Speaker 1: in that process is to compress that lead. And what

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00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: it does is it compacts the grains of lead. It

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00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: makes it very hard for corrosion to work its way

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Speaker 1: inside that plate. So you're you're effectively making the grid.

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Speaker 1: If we think of cake batter, you're you're actually pouring

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Speaker 1: a more consistent batter with less air holes and the

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Speaker 1: less chance for the cake to fall. Absolutely. One of

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Speaker 1: the comparisons I make is if you take some steel

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Speaker 1: wool and you take a steel ball bearing and you

494
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Speaker 1: expose it to the climate in the weather all summer long,

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00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: the heat, to wind, the rain. At the end of

496
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Speaker 1: the summer, that steel wool is going to be very corroded,

497
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: not much structure left to it. That steel ball bearing

498
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: is going to be corodd on the outside, but internally

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00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: it's still very strong and it's you know, similar to

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Speaker 1: how those power frame grids are manufacturing. It makes sense.

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00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: I've got a ton of regular listeners that know, I'm

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Speaker 1: always recommending standard lead acid flooded batteries with power frame

503
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: grid technology. But there's a lot of new technology and cars. So,

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00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, can you explain to them and anyone listening

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00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: today about how batteries have advanced as well, what's beyond

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00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: this standard lead acid flooded battery. Yes, so we've used

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00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: the standard flooded lead accid battery for years and years,

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00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: and ultimately that's a starting battery. That's that's intent is

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00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: to just start the car. But now as vehicles advanced

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Speaker 1: and we put more electronics on vehicles. When you think

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Speaker 1: of a standard minivan nowadays probably has you know, two

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Speaker 1: power sliding doors, of power tailgate, maybe a moon roof,

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Speaker 1: maybe a navigation system, some kind of DVD system in

514
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Speaker 1: the back. There are a lot of electronics on vehicles

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00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: today that never existed before. So you really need a

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Speaker 1: different technology of battery to support all those electronics. And

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Speaker 1: that's where a GM or absorbed glass matt comes in

518
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: because the a g M batteries can handle the load

519
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: of all the electronics there are in vehicles these days

520
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: and still being a fairly high stated charge in order

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Speaker 1: to start your car. And then as we move into

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00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: the future, into the start stop technology, which you know

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00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: that technology is is starting to grow and it's more

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00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: similar to like a golf car technology where when you

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00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: come to a stop, your engine shuts off, and then

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Speaker 1: your battery is supporting all the electric electronics in your

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Speaker 1: vehicle um and then when you take your foot off

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00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: the brake or hit the gas, the engine comes back on.

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Speaker 1: Net technology is growing in a g M batteries or

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Speaker 1: what is powering those vehicles. That's interesting. I guess a

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Speaker 1: g M is more of a place than just lengthen durability.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to help us with new features and

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Speaker 1: technology going forward. That's that's kind of neat talk a

534
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: little bit about you know, I love to get into

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Speaker 1: the conversation about conditions that affect the life of a

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Speaker 1: grid and battery. People are always asking me how long

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Speaker 1: should a battery last? How do you explain that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, that's kind of a million dollar question. A

539
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: little bit depends on how you take care of the battery.

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Speaker 1: A little bit depends on which part of the country

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Speaker 1: you live. In the two things that really are the

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00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: life limiting things that affect batteries are heat in vibration

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00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: that the heat corrodes the batteries as we we talked about,

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00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 1: or corrodes the lead plates inside the battery. And then vibration.

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00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: You know, whether you're hitting potholes or going over speed bumps,

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00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: or just even a lot of stopping go driving, Um,

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00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: that vibration starts to shake those lead plates apart. Um.

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00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: You know. So when somebody asked how long should the

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00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: battery last, it's it's a tough question to answer. I know,

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00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm out of the Cleveland, Ohio area, and a lot

551
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: of people up here think it's the cold weather that

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00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: that kills the batteries, when actually it's it's just the opposite.

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00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we get um longer life out of batteries

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00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: up here in the northern climates. Then you know, folks

555
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: down in Florida and the Gulf Coast, it's just so

556
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: hot down there constantly it continues to corrode those plates.

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00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: So UM, yeah, it's um, it's a tough question to answer,

558
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, it's it's one of those

559
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: things that the better care you take of your battery,

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00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: the longer it's gonna last for you. So there is

561
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: no best time of year to replace a battery, or

562
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: is there. You know, probably after a long hot summer,

563
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: especially up here in the northern climates, as we go

564
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: into the winter months, you know, it's probably not a

565
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: bad idea to get that battery checked out before the

566
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: winter starts. But really, anytime throughout the year if you

567
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: want to get a battery check, no harm in getting

568
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: on just to see what the health of that battery is. So,

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Speaker 1: I guess the key question comes down because we want

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Speaker 1: everybody to have power frame grid technology. I know I do.

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00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: I know I look for it, and I know I

572
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: I try to put customers into it as much as

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00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: I can. Um, how can a consumer be sure they're

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00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: getting power frame grid technology if they make a battery purchase. Yeah,

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00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: the only way to be certain is if you visit

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00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: your local Advanced Auto Parts or car Quest. Power frame

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00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: technology is going to be found exclusively at those two locations,

578
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: and when you walk in, you'll look at the batteries

579
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: and you'll see the light blue power Frame logo on

580
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: the label itself. And that's really the only way to

581
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: be certain that you're getting that power frame technology. Uh.

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00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: And then certainly if if any of the listeners have

583
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: questions or they want to see videos or pictures of

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00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: what a power frame grid actually looks like, you can

585
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: certainly check it out at power frame dot com. It's

586
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: a great website with a lot of great resources on it.

587
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: Cool beings. Hey, Josh, we're here with Josh. Here's field

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00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: support specialist from Johnson Controls. Josh, I want to thank

589
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: you for being with us today and helping the listeners

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00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: get more information about batteries. Again the website, it's some

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00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: power frame dot com. Correct, cool beans, Josh, listen, you

592
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: have a go, have a go, go, have a great

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00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: rest of the day. And Uh, I'm gonna try and

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Speaker 1: move this radio show forward and get into my pause

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Speaker 1: for the cause and we'll return right after this. I'mer

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Speaker 1: on eating the car Doctor, don't go away. Welcome backing

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00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: the car Doctor, rolling along and uh, getting to talk

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Speaker 1: to you about your wi bile. I I enjoy this,

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00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: you know. I my my wife we were watching TV

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00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: the other day and there was a Volkswagen commercial it

601
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: had to be a Volkswagen, right, and and the commercial

602
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: was about now they've got self breaking car. So if

603
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: you're not paying attention and you're too stupid, don't understand

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00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: that you can't hit the car in front of you

605
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: because you're not paying attention. And I hate to say

606
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: it like that, but you know, you look at the

607
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: way people drive today, and you know, I mean, I

608
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: guess there's a lot of reasons why you would want

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00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: to have self stopping cars in in you know, real

610
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: world scenarios. But um, to me, it's it's we we've

611
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: over medicated the tribe and we're making it so that

612
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: anybody can try without being responsible. And she looked at me,

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00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: and she looked at the self breaking car and she said, um,

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00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: how much longer? I said, I don't know, five six years?

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00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's the technology is gonna change, and

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00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: it's changing very very quickly. So the fact that I

617
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: still get to sit here and talk to you about

618
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: all this each and every week, um, it still tells

619
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: me that you've still got questions. Just wait a minute. Yeah,

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00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: So if I have this car, I don't have to

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Speaker 1: do anything. It'll break all by itself. I don't have

622
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: to do anything to make it not work crash avoidance,

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Speaker 1: but Mercedes stop breaking. Oh no breaking. No, yeah, well

624
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: that's true if it's a Volkswagen. I never thought of

625
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: it like that. Now I got it. Volkswagen is a

626
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: self breaking car by virtue of what it is. That's

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00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: why v W boy, we haven't done this one in

628
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: a while, but it is true. You know, I should

629
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: have written that commercial because Volkswagen, by by definition of

630
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: its initials, is virtually worthless. And you know, so now

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00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: they've made a self breaking car. I wonder you know

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Speaker 1: if that's b R A K I n G or

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Speaker 1: b R E A K I n J self slatinly

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00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: of course it is, um, but the technology is kind

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00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: of scary on a serious note, and I just want

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00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: to get this in before the before the hour takes us.

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00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: We've got about a minute. Um. This came to me

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00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: from Jimmy's a truck driver, and the heron stressed this

639
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: important message to not do this. I'm a truck driver

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00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: and I see too many people on the passenger seat

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00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: at highway speeds with their feet on the dashboard using

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Speaker 1: it as a foot rest. What happens to their feet

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Speaker 1: legs during an accident such as a deer collision when

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Speaker 1: the passenger side are bag deploys. Thanks and thanks for

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Speaker 1: all you do. That is definitely an unsafe scenario, Jim,

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Speaker 1: And you know what, He's right, and we don't think

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Speaker 1: about that. But then again, you know, we live in

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Speaker 1: a country, we live in a land in a time

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Speaker 1: where people think it's too much to spend to do

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Speaker 1: an oil change on a car, standing there with a

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Speaker 1: seven dollar cup of Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts or whatever

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Speaker 1: you know, that's what it's all about. So I yearn

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Speaker 1: for the days of common sense. And I asked myself,

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Speaker 1: will they ever appear again? And I just wondered, But anyway,

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Speaker 1: here trying to keep it common sense being too common here,

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Speaker 1: trying to make sense of it all. I am on

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Speaker 1: any in the car doctor, and I really appreciate this

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Speaker 1: opportunity to get together each in every week. As I've

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Speaker 1: said before, until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless. Let's see you. I's about to ad