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Speaker 1: Headlines.

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Speaker 2: It's time for headlines. I have some very urgent and

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Speaker 2: important breaking new headlines.

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Speaker 1: And Kenny Florian's podcast, Oh get that John Annak and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian podcast. Nonsense out of my face. This is

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Speaker 1: remember the show with UFC Weldweight, Jampia Blaha, Bahama, what

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Speaker 1: are we doing here? Let's go John Anna, Kenny Florian

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Speaker 1: and you know the guest of honor blah Mohammad. But

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Speaker 1: it's his show. He's not really a guest on his

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Speaker 1: own show. A lot to talk about. Dana White dropped

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Speaker 1: a lot of bombs, but everyone itching to talk about

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Speaker 1: this stuff.

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Speaker 2: But baalah Mohammad.

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Speaker 1: Right, we got a date, brother, love you man, let's go.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel man? We got a date?

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Speaker 3: Aha, my brother.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like Kenny knows, once you got a name

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Speaker 4: and once you gotta date, everything changes, like something clicks

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Speaker 4: at you where you're like, I want to run at

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Speaker 4: your miles, I want to go. When Dana announced it yesterday,

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Speaker 4: like I already knew it, but the fact that he

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Speaker 4: said it, it made me want to go like run

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Speaker 4: and work out. And it was like Maddy from the

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Speaker 4: social media team was like, hey, Dan is gonna announce

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Speaker 4: it right now, and I was like, yo, it's nine thirty.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tired iBOT to fall asleep, and she's like,

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Speaker 4: just stay up so you can post something about it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, is he gonna do it exactly? At

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Speaker 3: nine thirty? Said I don't know. It's dana A all right,

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Speaker 3: go away from dude.

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Speaker 1: Well it's great to see. And billal is a pretty

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Speaker 1: regimented guy. I've known him for a long time. Right,

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Speaker 1: typically wakes up at eight Central time, but he was

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Speaker 1: ready to go earlier today.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure a little extra.

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Speaker 1: Juice as we all had, so I understand, we all

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Speaker 1: understand it's gonna be shot Ka Rakmanov, I guess apparently

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Speaker 1: was injured when he fought Ian Gary, but that's yesterday's news.

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Speaker 1: So at some point, I'm sure it crossed your wake

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Speaker 1: that Shopcott was injured.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they told me we had the date for May tenth,

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Speaker 4: and then they told me Shapcot was hurt.

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Speaker 3: So then it was like, all right, well, who's it

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Speaker 3: gonna be?

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Speaker 4: And for myself, I'm looking at the like the names

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Speaker 4: on the list right, and you're looking at I mean,

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Speaker 4: who's number two? I think tomorrow's number two. But you

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Speaker 4: know he's on a three fight losing streak. His knees

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Speaker 4: are probably like eighty years old. They're gonna give it

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Speaker 4: to him. And then I'm looking at Brady. Already beat Brady,

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Speaker 4: I already beat Leon. So then I looked at Jack.

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Speaker 4: He had the highest win streak, and I was like, bro,

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Speaker 4: I want to beat another guy's streak. Right, we got

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Speaker 4: Brady when he was fifteen, and oh, we beat Leon,

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Speaker 4: who's on a twelve or thirteen fight winning streak.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Jack got the longest streak. Now it makes the most

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Speaker 4: sense for me, and that's what I'm here for.

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Speaker 5: So was this something that was happening behind the scenes

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Speaker 5: where you were going back and forth with your representation

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Speaker 5: in the UFC, Like how much input did you have

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Speaker 5: into this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean for us, they were just like for me,

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Speaker 4: I'm a guy, I don't care who it is, right,

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Speaker 4: I don't care who's in front of me. But they

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Speaker 4: were just throwing out the names and then they were

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Speaker 4: like shot cow is hearst. So then you're wondering who's

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Speaker 4: it gonna be? What it is, and then they discussed

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Speaker 4: it with you. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be whatever they choose. And then we ended

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Speaker 4: up just they came up with Jack, so I was like,

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Speaker 4: all right, let's go. I'm cool with it doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so know you know three named Jack?

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Speaker 1: Well right, see see for me, Flow, it really isn't

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Speaker 1: about the opponent because I'm team Muhammad, I'm fired up here.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it off for rails already, John, John,

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about three named Jack because it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter who's walking across the octagon. And I'll

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Speaker 1: just cut you off there, John again, and I'll just

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Speaker 1: say when Shavcott was going to be the opponent, Kenny

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Speaker 1: Florian said, Blow can figure out a way to beat

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Speaker 1: that guy, right, So John, go ahead, Blow can figure

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Speaker 1: out a way to beat whoever's in front of go ahead. Well,

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Speaker 1: I actually wanted to hear what Kenny had to say,

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Speaker 1: as you completely sabotage our podcast. But does look and

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Speaker 1: I know you're strong as an ox, You're built like

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Speaker 1: a backyard shed, but you look lean and mean. Bro.

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Speaker 1: You look like you have been exercising NonStop since the

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Speaker 1: fight has been out. It's great to see your face.

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Speaker 1: I do have a lot of questions. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: the broadcast journalist in here, so I was bandying about

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Speaker 1: some names before it was announced that you would defend

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Speaker 1: your title against Jack Dela Madelena again in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Like,

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Speaker 1: could we at least Jay get it out there UFC

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Speaker 1: three fifteen on May fucking tenth? Is it? Anyway? I

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Speaker 1: thought new mansel Joaquin Buckley might have been a consideration,

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Speaker 1: but that was because Jack Dela Madelena was booked. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of news here that MMA fans are

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Speaker 1: sort of marinating in, like Sean Brady is now replacing

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Speaker 1: three named Jack against Leon Edwards. Right, So I hadn't

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Speaker 1: considered Jack, not because they were trying to make him

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Speaker 1: and shofcutt a long time ago, or maybe because he

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Speaker 1: needed a Leon win to really cement his status. I

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Speaker 1: just wasn't considering guys who were booked. So were you

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Speaker 1: surprised at all? I mean, I've been considered im a

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Speaker 1: Shadowgary Off a loss to Shafcott because he fought well

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't booked. So were you considering that Jack

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Speaker 1: could get pulled? I guess you probably considered that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like you said. At first, it was like,

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Speaker 4: Off of a loss, right, because the big names where

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Speaker 4: you're looking at is in shot cuts out it's Ian

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Speaker 4: Gary would be nuts, but he's just coming off a loss,

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow loss, Kobe loss. And then I was like, all right, well,

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Speaker 4: who's the longest streak, And I was like Jack's and

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at his date where it would have been

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Speaker 4: the end of March, was like, I doubt he would

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Speaker 4: have been able to turn around, and then you don't

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Speaker 4: want to take a chance of him losing that fight.

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Speaker 4: Then it's like Leon's back there and I just dominated Leon.

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Speaker 4: So I think for the UFC it made the most

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Speaker 4: sense just because he had the longest streak, right, and

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Speaker 4: people you know he's from Australia. They're trying to build

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Speaker 4: I think he was also the guy that was they

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Speaker 4: it just came down to who had the longer streak,

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Speaker 4: who had the most at one seventy and I think

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Speaker 4: for Jack, people expected it to beat him, right, they

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Speaker 4: expected he was calling out these guys like if there's

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Speaker 4: one thing about Jack. I respect him because he was

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Speaker 4: always he was like you said, he was calling out Shatcot,

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Speaker 4: he was calling out Gilbert. He was always wanted the

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Speaker 4: next big fight, and he took Leon Edwards. So he's

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Speaker 4: willing to step up and fight these guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know it's still early and you're going to

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Speaker 5: break them down, you know, with with your team and

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Speaker 5: all that stuff. But what do you think is the

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Speaker 5: most dangerous thing about JDM and what do you need

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Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm being honest with you, like, uh,

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Speaker 4: I'm better everywhere people were gonna say and they're gonna

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Speaker 4: ready to come out like oh he got hands, he

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Speaker 4: got hands, But I think they just underestimate my hands

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Speaker 4: in my striking. And I just went against the best

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Speaker 4: striker in the UFC and Leon Edwards so called. I

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Speaker 4: trained with the best striker in the UFC and Ignazio

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Speaker 4: obam Mondez. I trained with Yaju Rodriguez. Both these guys

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Speaker 4: you've seen them spar you guys seen it. They're a

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Speaker 4: different level. So when I have a guy that's basic

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Speaker 4: and Jack who's just boxing right, he has really good hands,

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Speaker 4: he has good power, but he breaks a lot of

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Speaker 4: these guys down because he hasn't fought anybody like me.

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Speaker 4: His biggest uh weakness is his experience. You're never he's

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Speaker 4: never been in a big fight like that. Like for me,

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Speaker 4: I sat there and had to fight Gilbert Burns for

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Speaker 4: a number of contender Spot. I had to fight undefeated

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Speaker 4: Sean Brady. I had to fight Leon Edwards in Manchester.

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Speaker 4: I've had the pressure of.

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Speaker 2: All of that on me.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't had had a pressure yet. He has a

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Speaker 3: fat pressure fighter yet.

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Speaker 4: So for me, I think I'm gonna go in there

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna walk through him like I thought I

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Speaker 4: was gonna do everybody else, and I've done everybody else.

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Speaker 1: It is crazy for me the extent to which your

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Speaker 1: striking is underappreciated, right, people go to UFC Fight Pass

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Speaker 1: and watch the fight against Leon Edwards. It is wild

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Speaker 1: to me that you don't get a modicum of credit

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Speaker 1: right from some of the masses for your striking, and

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Speaker 1: in some part good right. Jocko Willing would be like,

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Speaker 1: good right. But hear me out below, because you know

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Speaker 1: how much love I have for you. Sometimes when you

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Speaker 1: say that a fighter sucks, and I don't like that

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Speaker 1: verb to begin with. But sometimes when you say a

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Speaker 1: fighter sucks, I agree with you, you know, But when

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Speaker 1: you say Drake is duplus sucks, right, part of me

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Speaker 1: feels like you're saying it because you're striking so goddamn

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Speaker 1: underrated that maybe you just say that, like you don't

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Speaker 1: really think Drake sucks, do you?

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Speaker 3: If I'm being honest, I mean, Drek sucks. That's another one, right, bro, Hey,

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Speaker 3: look at me.

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Speaker 4: I just LeAnn Edwards was on this long streak right

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Speaker 4: twelve when fifteen fight winning strick. He had a fight

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Speaker 4: shot Strucken, who sucks, Who's coming off one win against

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Speaker 4: Costa in a pathetic fight, And then you know, even

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Speaker 4: before that, I just signed You're nothing but respect by

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Speaker 4: his Sonia.

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Speaker 3: But he's still coming off of a loss.

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Speaker 4: For to get those fights, he hasn't had to fight

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Speaker 4: those tough, hungry guys that.

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Speaker 3: Are good anywhere they're good.

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Speaker 4: At one spot. He hasn't fought the grappler and the striker.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't had to go through all those guys. And

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Speaker 4: when he did fight those grapplers, he looked pretty bad,

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Speaker 4: but they gassed like you know, brunt ahead. His moments

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Speaker 4: in those first couple of rounds. Then he gassed, and

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Speaker 4: then Duplessi comes through.

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Speaker 3: He has heart. I'll give him that, but you're not

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Speaker 3: gonna beat me in the herd game.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not suggesting you, Robert. I'm not suggesting he

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Speaker 1: beats you. You know, I just I think you're both outstanding. Hey, well,

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Speaker 1: he uses the verb sucks because he ain't gonna use

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Speaker 1: the verb bucks.

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Speaker 2: Right, you know I'm gonna use that verb.

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Speaker 1: But you know, a couple of common opponents, right, so

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Speaker 1: split decisions, a couple of splits, but so common opponents, right,

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Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns was last time out for Jack Della Matalanta

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Speaker 1: knocks him out. That was UFC two ninety nine, March

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. Before that is split to Kevin

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Speaker 1: Holland that's a dub basil Huffy's John Sorry whatever, split there,

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Speaker 1: and then you beat Randy Brown bully right, yeah, until

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Speaker 1: There's so many things to discuss in this mixed martial

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Speaker 5: I remember GSP just hating fighting in Montreal the times,

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Speaker 1: we go to three fourteen. Blow Michael Morales Gilbert Burns

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Speaker 5: He's a young kid too.

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Speaker 5: I like this car better than three fourteen, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got another big one coming up. They haven't announci. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Your friend Chuck Buffalo, but we can't unveil that just yet.

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Speaker 1: Michael Morales is so good that he is Allow's part

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Speaker 1: right because Manol Fure can certainly get in the way

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00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,680
Speaker 1: of that super fight with immediacly come maytent So that's

435
00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:57,200
Speaker 1: all I got.

436
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's so good and she has like an awkward

437
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 4: style right then she's big. But I was just with

438
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 4: Valentina actually during New Years we had like an interview

439
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 4: in Vegas, and she's just like locked in. She's another

440
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,400
Speaker 4: one that she's constantly training, she's always working and she's

441
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 4: always like in shape.

442
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,360
Speaker 3: So she just seems like another one of those champions that.

443
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,760
Speaker 4: People think I'm getting older, people think that you know,

444
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,160
Speaker 4: I'm losing it, But I'm gonna have to remind you guys,

445
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 4: same way she looked dominant against Alexi Grossea.

446
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,359
Speaker 3: That's the best she's ever looked.

447
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, he's still hungry man.

448
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 1: Well, we're excited. Hopefully we get camflow with us up

449
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,360
Speaker 1: there in Montreal, but Jay and I will be there

450
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 1: and congratulations Champi. And it has me thinking about you

451
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 1: after you retire, right, like, what you're going to do

452
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,679
Speaker 1: to scratch this competitive itch, because it seems like for

453
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 1: you and for Volcan, it's like if you guys don't

454
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 1: have a date and a fight on the books, you

455
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,880
Speaker 1: know your equilibrium is off.

456
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Speaker 3: Bro.

457
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 4: I mean, those six weeks that I was the injury,

458
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 4: it was like the worst time of my life.

459
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,119
Speaker 3: I just had to sit on the.

460
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 4: Couch with a pig line in my arm and I'm

461
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 4: just like, but it made me appreciate the sport that

462
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 4: much more. It made me realize how much I still

463
00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,679
Speaker 4: loved it and how much of to me. So like

464
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 4: me just being in the gym and being able to

465
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 4: train right now and be hyped out for this camp,

466
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 4: like I didn't forget how long it took me to

467
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 4: get here, right, I didn't forget that I was begging

468
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 4: for a title shot. I was dying to try to

469
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 4: get this title shot, and I was asking celebrities to

470
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 4: make videos for me to get a title shot. So

471
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 4: that's just keeping that chip on my shoulder, and that's

472
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 4: letting me know that. All right, Well, Jack didn't have

473
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 4: to do that. These guys have to do that because

474
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 4: I'm a champion. That's allowing you to fight me. So

475
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 4: now you've got a different guy. Like I told Jason before,

476
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 4: this isn't me defending the title. This is me still

477
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 4: fighting for the title. I don't now I don't have

478
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 4: to beg for it though, So I'm gonna get this

479
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 4: other title by smashing Jack.

480
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 3: And this is not this is gonna be me winning

481
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 3: another title.

482
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: And I know it's in the rear view mirror, but

483
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 1: the pick line and not allowed to sweat for what

484
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: sixty days or whatever it is. And you know, what

485
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: was it like doing push ups? Balal but coming out

486
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: of that, right, what was it like taking a fall?

487
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 1: You're feeling soft again like me, so so you know

488
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: it's a and look he's gonna turn around well within

489
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Speaker 1: a calendar year of winning his first belt. So you

490
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: brought up Vulk John Let's transition to three fourteen, so

491
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: Ilya Taporia cleaned out the division, I guess according to him,

492
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 1: and frankly, if you're gonna take care of Holloway and

493
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 1: Vulk like that, hard to blame him. So he's moving

494
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: up to fifty five. We could get to that all day,

495
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: but let's start with the matchup with alexand Volkanovski Diego Lopez.

496
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: I love me some Diego Lopez. I will say for

497
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 1: the vacant featherweight title, it will be vacated. I guess

498
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: when the first strike is thrown. Volkanovski minus one fifty five,

499
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez plus one thirty flow just your initial thoughts,

500
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 1: I guess, guys, well.

501
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 5: I guess for me that the biggest news is that

502
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 5: Topori is, you know, obviously vacating the belt. But I

503
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 5: think it's still a fantastic fight. The fact that Diego

504
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 5: Lopez is going to be fighting a guy in Volkanovski

505
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 5: who had that belt for a very long time, I

506
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 5: think makes for a really interesting matchup. Lopez is a

507
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 5: double threat on the feet on the ground. He's a

508
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 5: finisher through and through. I think he's gonna test Volkanovski's

509
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 5: chin early and try to bring that pressure. But Volkanowski

510
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 5: has so much experience and and he's a slick operator himself.

511
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 5: So curious to see how Volkovsky bounces back.

512
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: John, I know you probably want me to say more

513
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: about till Purio. So is there anything you want to

514
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: get in on that? I mean, just fascinating for a

515
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: guy to sort of move up like that. I guess

516
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: what he's put on paper for me, he's very close

517
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: to the top of that, you know, number one pound

518
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: for pound conversation for me if I'm making my list.

519
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 2: So, John, do you want to talk more about that?

520
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about your pound for pound

521
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: list ever, tonight, tomorrow, never in my life. I care less,

522
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: But Low I don't know how you deal with this guy.

523
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: The one I texted you twice before the show, and

524
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: one of the two things I texted you was Ilia

525
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: Topulia talk before we get to Diego Lopez, and.

526
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 2: I was so yeah, so talk about it? What do

527
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 2: you have to say about it?

528
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: Who? It's interesting right because mav Sar Ievloyev is now

529
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: going to watch Diego Lopez compete for the championship and blow.

530
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Speaker 1: You were there at UFC two to eighty eight when

531
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez made his UFC debut. Right May sixth, twenty

532
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: twenty three, the night upon which you beat Gilbert Burns. Right,

533
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: Mafsar Ivloyev beats Diego Lopez, and what was Diego Lopez's

534
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: UFC debut less than two years ago. Lopez has since

535
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: won five in a row. Movsar has continued to win.

536
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: He's nineteen and zero, nobody's talking about him, right, and

537
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: he had a fight booked against Ilia Topuritia. So for me,

538
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: my initial thought was this division is not let's not

539
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: pretend that the division is cleaned out. Okay, let's not

540
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: pretend that the division has cleaned out. But Ken Flaw,

541
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: I'll spin it to you. We kind of are aligned

542
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: that you know, Volkanovski and Max Hollowayer in the rearview mirror,

543
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: and the big fights that he wants and that the

544
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: fans want for him are at fifty five.

545
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I think tolpuria Is is an absolute beast.

546
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 5: I think he's proven that his striking is a little

547
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 5: bit different than everybody else is right now, especially in

548
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 5: that in that close range. He puts together some nasty combinations,

549
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 5: and he's he's a he's a patient dude, and and

550
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 5: he's good everywhere. And I mean, and I think I

551
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who initiated

552
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 5: this talk about having one fight before the fight for

553
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: the belt. And again, I don't know that he may

554
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 5: get Islam straight away. I don't know that, but I

555
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised. Just he makes very calculated moves. Everything

556
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 5: he does inside and out of the cage. It's like

557
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 5: he's thinking about it and he's taking a long, long

558
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 5: heart about it, and then he executes on it. And

559
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 5: you know, I'm curious to see if it's gonna be Poorier,

560
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 5: if it's gonna be Olavero, or if he's gonna go

561
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 5: straight for the King and Islam Mahasha. But I'm curious,

562
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 5: you know, blow what you thought as a belt holder.

563
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 5: Were you surprised to see to Poria give it up?

564
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 5: And what do you think his chances would be against

565
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 5: someone like Islam Mahasha, if a guy that you've seen

566
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 5: in the training room.

567
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised that it was given up, right,

568
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 4: If anything, I would expect it of an interim ballot

569
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 4: and then him trying to go for double champ status. Right,

570
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 4: but yeah, like I don't think he cleaned out the

571
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 4: division where he earned a double champ status yet, Right,

572
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: So if he's leaving the division and he's like I'm

573
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: done with it, I can't cut the way nowhere. Okay,

574
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 4: it makes sense, But I mean for him, if i'm him,

575
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 4: it's like, it doesn't make sense for me to go

576
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 4: up unless he's fighting the champion because ala Vera, you

577
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 4: fight Outlavera, that's a tough fight, that's and you're not

578
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 4: gonna gain You're not gonna get the belt by beating him.

579
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 4: You still then you have to go through Islam again. Right,

580
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 4: So for him, I'm like, was the risk worth the reward?

581
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 4: If I'm being honest, not even like hater, I was

582
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 4: like to poor, he is a beast.

583
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: His boxing is good, his hands are good, but just

584
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: seeing him.

585
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 4: Against bigger guys and guys that really grapple, he hasn't

586
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 4: really fought those real grapplers, right, Yeah, you know he

587
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 4: fought Bryce Mitchell, but Bryce Mitchell's isn't as big as

588
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 4: this line. His striking isn't like Islam, and Bryce Mitchell

589
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: took him down. We've seen him go against Allow and

590
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: he gassed out in that third round. It was a

591
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 4: different type of fight, but it was more he was

592
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 4: rustling early in that fight and then by that third

593
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: round he was tired. This Islam's gonna come shooting on you.

594
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: Ear the Islam's gonna wrestle with you early, and he

595
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: can strike and he could. He has power too, and

596
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: he's huge. I think that's there's gonna be differences there

597
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: and I think he has felt that. Yeah, and his

598
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: only fight at one for the five j Herbert dropped

599
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: him with a head kick, right, and you know Islam

600
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 4: dropped Volkanoski with a head case, so you know he's

601
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 4: not a head kick. But if I'm head I mean

602
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 4: I would rather fight, you know, Islam. But if it's

603
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 4: gonna be a Poitier or Charles next, those are both

604
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 4: all tough matchups. It's gonna be it's gonna be interesting

605
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 4: to see himppfact, I don't really see.

606
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: Him that big. I don't know how much money really

607
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: he's not.

608
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: But I also believe that a thirty six year old

609
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: motivated rest to Alexander Volkanowski is not an easy fight,

610
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: nor is a fight against that fucking blitzkrieg Diego Lopez.

611
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: Kenny and I have talked a lot about risk reward

612
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: for Iliot Topodia, right, Like there's inherent risk in him

613
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: fighting Diego Lopez. There's far more upside even if it's

614
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: not a championship titled for Iliot Topoitia to scalp Charles

615
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 1: Oliverra or Dustin Poorier that it is to beat Diego

616
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: Lopez in a title defense, with all due respect, And

617
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: I think money comes into this as well, you know,

618
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: and I think you know the calculated nature of Topoitia

619
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: is such that well, and I'm going to interrupt you

620
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: there on the calculated nature because I'm not necessarily when

621
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: I bring up always closes. I'm not talking about my

622
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: top five. I'm just saying I put him on a

623
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: very special level Toporia and Kenny, I think you've spoken

624
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: of him extremely highly as well. So when I look

625
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: at a guy like that that is so calculated about

626
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: his career inside and out of the octagon, what he

627
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: accomplished in that division, I'm sure he has myriad reasons

628
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: for moving up to one fifty five, and the main

629
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: one may come John. We talked about this today and

630
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: we were together. I told you I think he's fighting Islam,

631
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: and you didn't agree with me. Well, I think it

632
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: stands to reason, and Kenny sort of intimated it there

633
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: that it could end up being Islamikasha. But it seems

634
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: as though Topoitia is not going to bat an eye

635
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: if it is Charles Oliverra or Dustin Poorier, and Kenny,

636
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: you think that might be part of the mass their

637
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: plan to not bite off more than he can chew

638
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: right away.

639
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: I think so.

640
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: You know, he has a tendency of kind of testing

641
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 5: the waters in a variety of ways, and I wouldn't

642
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 5: be surprised if maybe, and maybe obviously I'm speculating here

643
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 5: and thinking too much about this, but I won't be

644
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 5: surprised if he goes in there and goes Okay, let's

645
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 5: see what these one hundred and fifty five one hundred

646
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 5: three fivers are all about. Let's go against a legend,

647
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 5: be it Olivera or Dustin Pourrier. If I lose to

648
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 5: one of those guys, there's no shame in losing to

649
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 5: a legend. I can always go back to one forty five,

650
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 5: and of course they're gonna give me a shot at

651
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: the belt again, right, And that way he kind of

652
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 5: tests the water, see what these high level you know

653
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 5: OG's at onety five are all about. And then he

654
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 5: gets the ability to build up that fight at one

655
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five pounds against someone like Islam, because

656
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: I tell you what, if you're going to deal with

657
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 5: someone like Islam, you want to know what a strong

658
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 5: one hundred and three five pounder is all about before

659
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 5: you get in there and he gets a hold of you, go,

660
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 5: uh oh right, I don't know.

661
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, and every career is unique. Might as well

662
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: get those guys now. Then three years down the road,

663
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: maybe you're more banged.

664
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: Up because he said that he wanted to retire early too,

665
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: so maybe he's just exactly put his foot on a

666
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: guess early quick. Yeah, yeah, was any one of those

667
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 4: that said he wanted to be done by thirty four

668
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: or thirty five?

669
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 5: I think you're right, yeah exactly, which which makes sense.

670
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 5: Again that kind of goes along with the story there

671
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 5: as well. Ballall, so I think you're I think you're

672
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 5: onto it flow.

673
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I like three fifteen, even though I'm biased,

674
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: I like three fifteen more than three fourteen two and

675
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: one hundred percent.

676
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we talking.

677
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: About next, Michael Chandler, Patty Pimblet, that's the call, mad

678
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: I haven't talked about Diego Lopez and Alexander volkanof yet.

679
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: I love you well, No, but I would say it.

680
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 2: I'm saying though that that's the second fight on three fourteen.

681
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: That close criticism, right, because it's not a consequential with respect,

682
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like, well, you could be sure, Patty Pimldens,

683
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: Michael Zaandler. Then all of a sudden, it's going to

684
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: be a great consequence, uh, favor slight favorite. I have

685
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: so many different things like in my brain right now,

686
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: Like even when I think about Leon Edwards and Sean

687
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: Brady now fighting March twenty second, right, which we haven't

688
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: talked about, and now people saying, oh my gosh, you

689
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: know Leon's gonna fight Jack and now he's gonna fight Sean.

690
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do people understand that? Leon Edwards said

691
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: the championship training camp for Balao Muhammad, Right, Leon Edwards

692
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: can wrestle, he can grapple, right, Belota, am I crazy?

693
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: Like?

694
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: I know Sean's the man like, but he he prepared

695
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: for you. I think he feels like he can beat Sean.

696
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: What do you think?

697
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? One percent.

698
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: I was just talking with somebody about it. I said,

699
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: he just had a camp for me. I think when

700
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 4: you're looking at Sean, Sean can't wrestle like me. He's

701
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: not really good at getting advancing as much. His last night,

702
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: he looked really good against Gilbert Burns, but Giler Burns

703
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: wasn't really thrown a lot. I think Sean's gonna have

704
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: a hard time getting in on Leon Edwards because Leon's

705
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 4: so good at kicking and moving, kicking and moving, kicking

706
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: and moving, and Sean really doesn't like to get hit

707
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: a lot. He had a lot of good volume his

708
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: last one, but it was just because Gilbert wasn't thrown

709
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 4: a lot. I think if Leon Edwards is motivated and

710
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 4: bigger in a bigger cage, it's gonna be a tough

711
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: night for for Sean.

712
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: All right, he Jay before, I I love that, Thank you,

713
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: Blau had to get that out there. Last thing, Jay

714
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: before I give you the reins back, So diego Lopez

715
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Alexander Volkanowski. Perhaps Code Blue could chase a betting line

716
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: on DraftKings sportsbook, Right, Diego Lopez. I got it. One

717
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: fifty five for Vulcan plus one thirty for Lopez. I

718
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: might have already dropped it even though I'm so ill prepared.

719
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: You want to know what I said to Balow today

720
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: about Leon Edwards and Sean Brady, two of his former opponents.

721
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: I think he beat both of them. I was like,

722
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: one of.

723
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: Those dudes getting another L bully, That's what I said

724
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: to BALaw, one of them dudes getting another l Those

725
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: are two strong fighters, No, I mean, and the winner

726
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: could be next. I mean, it's but one of them

727
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: getting another L bro Now, Hammett all day? What without

728
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: anger in your heart? Can you just give me the

729
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: betting line on the other fight, which fight Vulk and

730
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez. Yeah, one fifty five minus one fifty five

731
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: for Vulcan plus one thirty for Diego Lopez. All right,

732
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: Kenny and Bala, I just quickly wanted to get your

733
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: thoughts on that fight. Once the first punch is thrown,

734
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: the featherweight championship will be vacant. Diego Lopez Alexander Volkanowski.

735
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: I think that betting line is going to command two

736
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: way action can flow. We'll start with you on this

737
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez getting the opportunity less than two years into

738
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: his UFC career. It's been amazing. It's a really hard

739
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: fight to handicap. I would think, folks ready to go, though,

740
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: I can assure you of that.

741
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 5: Extremely hard fight to handicap. You know, a lot of

742
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 5: it is because what Volkanovsky's going to show up is

743
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 5: he gonna go, well, okay, I need to protect my chin.

744
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 5: Let me play it conservatively here and try to outpoint him,

745
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 5: then be the strategist that he is. But then you

746
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 5: have Digo Lopez, who's going he's going to be a fireball.

747
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 5: He's going to go out there and he's going to

748
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 5: try to find that jit of Volkanovsky early and often

749
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: until that final bell, because that's kind of the way

750
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 5: he fights. I think that Volkanovsky can handle Lopez on

751
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 5: the ground. I do believe that. I think if we've

752
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 5: seen him so many times get out of some crazy

753
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: submissions with some great presiligents to black belts, I'm not

754
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 5: so concerned there, you know. But I think on the

755
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 5: feet is where I kind of want to see him.

756
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 5: I just I want to see him out maneuver Diego Lopez,

757
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 5: and I think those first ten minutes are gonna be critical,

758
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 5: and after that he can kind of go into cruise control.

759
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 5: So but if he decides to actually go out there

760
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 5: and fight and try to knock Lopez out and really

761
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 5: counter him, that that could be extremely dangerous. You know,

762
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 5: he is at the end of his career. He has

763
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 5: experienced a couple of knockouts now and you know, perhaps

764
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 5: not not what he was just a few years ago.

765
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 5: But it's a fantastic fight. I'm excited about that one

766
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: for sure, Bully.

767
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: You know, it felt like when Toporia fought Vulk Tillporia

768
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: just was like, all right, I'm gonna pick my spot.

769
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let him sort of do his thing, and

770
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna do my thing. Whereas May it's not

771
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the same thing against Diego Lopez, Bully, I

772
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: don't think.

773
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like you know, when you're when you're

774
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: looking at to Poria and Diego, they're similar, but they're

775
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: really not.

776
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: Like they both have greasy power.

777
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 4: But I think to Poia is more calculated and he

778
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: sets stuff up at letter. Diego is just gonna walk

779
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 4: you down, and he's just gonna throw bombs at you,

780
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: and he doesn't care if you try to shoot on

781
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: him because he has good jiu jitsu. But I think

782
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: both experience in the fighting, he's gonna know because he

783
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: had moments in there right he was jabbing and moving,

784
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: just sticking and moving, sticking and moving. And I was

785
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: watching Diego because Yahia was supposed to fight him. We

786
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: thought Yahia was gonna fight him. So I'm watching tape

787
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: on him and I'm looking at him and it's like

788
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: he has that chaos that he loves.

789
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 3: But I think Volpe's experience is gonna be too much

790
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: for him.

791
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be smarter in the earlier rounds,

792
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 4: avoid the big shots earlier, make it, you know, even

793
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: kind of like what he did with when he fought

794
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: uh Aldo, pushing him against the fence, holding him there

795
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: for a little bit, draining him a little bit. Then

796
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 4: want to get to the fourth and fifth rounds. Those

797
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 4: are the championship rounds. And I do think that Diego

798
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: lopals will get hired those.

799
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: Later rounds because he does go so full forced in

800
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: the early rounds.

801
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: You know, Cody put in the chat three fourteen, Darren

802
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: Elkins is on the card. I forgot, that's what just seeing.

803
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: You know, anyone who watches the Anaconpholeian podcast a lot

804
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: to talk about the damage tattoo on the chest of

805
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Brian Petrie. So maybe that's why there's a little more

806
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: juice on the three fourteen card. But yeah, Year is

807
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: on that card against Pitt Poll making his UFC debut.

808
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: Bully talk to.

809
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: Me, Yeah, Bro, I'm like so excited for that one,

810
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: right because we thought he was gonna fight Lopez. That

811
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: was a huge fight for him, and then they canceled

812
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: it and then they said pitpull and I was like, bro,

813
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: that's huge because everybody knows him. And then when you

814
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 4: look at the last galo came from Bellator, You're like,

815
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: all right, it was Michael Chandler.

816
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: How much hype he had coming. So I think that yeah, Year,

817
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: especially at one forty five right.

818
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: Now with Ilia leaving, he goes out there, gets a

819
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: crazy highlight reel knockout. He's one of the biggest names

820
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: in the vision and he could still skip the.

821
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: Line like his name's that big enough.

822
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lopez do have that back and forth with they

823
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: could talk and stuff like that.

824
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: So if Lopez wins, uh, that's a match to make.

825
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: The whole thing for me is just so fascinating with Volkanovsky,

826
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: how well it played out right, A nice chunk of

827
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: time off you can cook with Vulk looks incredible. Everything

828
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: the dude whips up. But this nice chunk of time

829
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: off right, And I think I'm sure he's not been

830
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: in the weeds like drinking. I think, you know what

831
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, in such an extended time. I think this

832
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: win and.

833
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: He's wanted the time off right.

834
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: So I think for him to be able to get

835
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: another title shot with out of the picture, no matter

836
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: how dangerous Diego Lopez is, has to be exciting for him. Yeah,

837
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez will keep you up at night. I mean,

838
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a fighter, and I'll tell you Diego Lopez

839
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: would keep me up at night. I I mean, I

840
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: think I am kept up at night thinking about him

841
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: fighting Charles Olivera. So there's a lot of that. So

842
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: Michael Chandler is gonna fight Patty Pimblet over five rounds. Jay,

843
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: perhaps you could chase me a bedding line on that.

844
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: I have it. I have it. I have to look

845
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: at my paper.

846
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: I think Patti Pimblet was minus one twenty Chandler coming

847
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: back at even money, So Kenny, isn't that interesting? Michael

848
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Chandler as an underdog, right, and you can be sure that.

849
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my goods. You gotta love Michael Chandler, right,

850
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: do you not bully? Right? I mean, but it's like no, no, right,

851
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: but this man is going to trying to knock Patty's

852
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 1: hairline off his forehead, right, Like, yeah, he's just gonna

853
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: go ball to the wall.

854
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 5: He's never fought any other way. He's if that's just

855
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 5: what he does, right, I mean, it's you're chaos.

856
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: And it's a five rounder, so I'm looking at it.

857
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna go five rounds.

858
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: I know.

859
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: I know Patty said he doesn't get knocked out, but

860
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 3: like you said, Chandler's.

861
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 4: Gonna throw bombs and like even in that division, right,

862
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: Islam's looking for new contenders. So if Chandler goes out

863
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 4: there gets a knockout, or even Paddy Penley goes out

864
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: there gets a win, I can see one of those

865
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: guys skipping the line because he said even if Gatesie

866
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: wins against Hooker, I'd rather fight him, right, I don't

867
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: want to keep fighting these rematches. So both these guys,

868
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: there's title iflications no matter what. Like Chandler could lose

869
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 4: eight in a row. If he wins one by crazy knockout,

870
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: they'll get him a title shot.

871
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 5: Is this one?

872
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: Like?

873
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 5: I don't for whatever reason, I think I think Patty's

874
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: a good fighter. I just haven't like kind of been

875
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 5: on the hype train. Really have you? And are you

876
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 5: on that train? And do you think this is the

877
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 5: fight where we have to start to really take Patty

878
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 5: Piblet very seriously if he beats someone like Chandler, I'm

879
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 5: not on that.

880
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 3: Train, but the Patty train. He freaking screwed Jarrey Gordon.

881
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

882
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 4: But like his last tight was oppressive, right beating Bobby Green.

883
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 4: He beat Bobby Green. I mean it was just a

884
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: terrible game play with Bobby Green, but he still went

885
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: out there and he finished them. Well, beat a guy

886
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: like Chandler, right, who's been in there with everybody in

887
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: the division, all the top guys, and he went to

888
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: war with all them guys.

889
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: None of them was an easy fight for him or

890
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: for them.

891
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 4: So if he goes out there and he gets a

892
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 4: finish on a guy like Chandler, I think that'll people.

893
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 4: People still put Patty on that you know, you know,

894
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 4: Dana White, privilege pedestal, and they don't think he's good enough,

895
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 4: and they don't believe in him.

896
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: Yet. I think this is the one. If he ruins

897
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: this one, you believe.

898
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Him, and you know, John has been on that hype

899
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: train since very early on, and frankly, when John gets

900
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: on a hype train, he was on the Gary hype

901
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: trained early on. I get on the hype train with him.

902
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: I like Patty a lot. I absolutely think Jared Gordon

903
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: beat him, but putting that in a separate bucket, I

904
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: don't know Patty pimblet the martial artist to the full extent.

905
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: But I think John believes a lot in his ground skills,

906
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: in his overall game, you could be sure.

907
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: I think he's a smart fighter.

908
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: I think he's not fat right now, and he's always

909
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: been fat sort of out of camp, so I think

910
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: maybe he's taking it seriously. Certainly, I think if you're

911
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: ever gonna take guy seriously as Chandler. But one thing

912
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: that I think has been a criticism of Pimblet is

913
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: keeping his hands down, right, So if that's like the

914
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: biggest problem with the dude that I've seen is his

915
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: hands down, I think he could be in real trouble.

916
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: But fascinating is to pick him fight.

917
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I believe in Patty. We'll see, you know,

918
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: but I believe in him. I think he is an

919
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: explosive athlete, and I like guys who have submissions in

920
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: their arsenal, which he certainly has. He's got power, can flow.

921
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean he could fight.

922
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 5: I mean, dude, well, I'll tell you what he could

923
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 5: submit Chandler. There's no question about it. I could see

924
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 5: Chandler either guessing out or making some mistake and Patty

925
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 5: just jumping on something, you know.

926
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: And I want to interesting.

927
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's interesting because I remember you say I

928
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: was on the Ian Mashadow Gary hype train. But blal,

929
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: I remember a while ago hyping up Gabriel bond Feme

930
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: and Ian Mashadow Gary. Like a lot of the guys

931
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: that you were asked about in Abu Dhabi in twenty

932
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: twenty two, I think have really gone on to do

933
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: really good things. So I know you think those guys

934
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: are good. So if drinks du Plessi sucks Blaud. So

935
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Kyo Bohlyo, what do we

936
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: think of Kyle bo Holo as in middleweight? Does he suck?

937
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: Or is he good?

938
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 3: No? He's a dog, He's good, all right?

939
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: What about what about kam zashimayav Oh?

940
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: He's a dog.

941
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: And like what people were saying when I was saying

942
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: that middleweight sucks, I didn't mean the whole midleweight division, like.

943
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 3: Right now, Driscus.

944
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: Both suck, right, what about Nasordini Mavov?

945
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: He's good, He has hold for sure, but he's definitely

946
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 3: a dog. Yeah, all right.

947
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: So part of the reason I asked you about the

948
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: eighty five ors is because I'm not gonna let you

949
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: get out of here, and I know it's not my

950
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: show without at least talking about Islam Mahashev and how

951
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: he factors into all of this. Right, because, as you know,

952
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: as a champion who is willing to literally fight anybody

953
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: across probably three divisions, they're trying to do championship double headers.

954
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: So I would imagine the only reason why an Islami

955
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: Kasha Blah Muhammad fight was even considered promotionally, right, now

956
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: is because they need championship fights. Would you agree with

957
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: that sentiment that the UFC understands there's a relationship there

958
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: and maybe this wouldn't be the ideal time for Islam

959
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: to move up, but that they're a promoter that needs

960
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: two title fights on every pay per view and they have,

961
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, masters to serve.

962
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I agree.

963
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: And I know that they need title fights, right and well,

964
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 4: like I said, I think there's still fights for both

965
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: of us in our divisions, and I think that there's

966
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 4: still names that he hasn't fall yet, and there's definitely

967
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: names that I haven't fall yet. And I think that

968
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, for me, I want

969
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 4: to leave a legacy at one to seventy of beating

970
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: all these guys that were in the top five. I'm

971
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: thinking out my division before I could start looking up

972
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: at one eighty five or thinking about one eighty five,

973
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: I think within two fights, I couldn't look at one

974
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: eighty five and I could start talking about it and

975
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 4: believing in it. But I gotta go out there and

976
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 4: I got to dominate Jack Della. I gotta go out

977
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: there and I gotta dominate whoever after that to show it,

978
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 4: and I've been dominating these guys.

979
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: Right.

980
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: People will say whatever they want, but none of them

981
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: have been a close fight. Everything I've done is been domination,

982
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: So I just got to continue to do that.

983
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 2: Have you been Have you been to Montreal?

984
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: I've been to my tra I actually trained at a

985
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: Tri Star for for like a week before I was

986
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: in the UFC.

987
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 3: I went out there.

988
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 4: Frost Hobby is obviously one of the best coaches in

989
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: the world, and I was like, Oh, let me go

990
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: try to train with them guys, and it was it

991
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: was cool, it.

992
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 3: Was good experience.

993
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: Flow Faras has captured all those Boston guys.

994
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: Huh he had.

995
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 5: It's not It's not too bad of a drive. That

996
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: was the drive I used to make. You go through

997
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 5: upstate New York, Vermont, that whole thing and die. It's

998
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 5: not too bad, man. You get there pretty quickly.

999
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1000
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 3: We drove like nineteennine hours to get there from Chicago.

1001
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 5: Oh wow, damn Yeah, that's a drum.

1002
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: That was a drive drive.

1003
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: So Bully, you know, before we get out of here,

1004
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: in terms of your health right now and where you're

1005
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: at in terms of your training, I know Ramadan will

1006
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: come and go you know, you've been someone who's always

1007
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: wanted to fight so often. So even though I'm getting

1008
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: all excited the timetable, we still got a little time here.

1009
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: So where are you at health wise relative to where

1010
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: I guess you normally would be because you were injured.

1011
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm back in the gym.

1012
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: I've been like this whole camp for Nacho, who's fighting

1013
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: March eighth.

1014
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: I've been Dayalen Turner.

1015
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: Uh so I had to take for him, and I've

1016
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 4: been freaking catching kicks to the freaking head body. It

1017
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: is a hardburn, right Becausejailn Turner is a dogg and

1018
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be a crazy fight. And now

1019
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 4: we got Gerald Mirror start back in the gym with us.

1020
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 4: Speaking of submissions, Uh yeah, I'm mad this stuff to

1021
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 4: my arsenal John, we got it.

1022
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: It's coming, bro, dude.

1023
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: How about that body though? How about GM three?

1024
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: You know he was down here in South Florida, But

1025
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people down here in South Florida don't

1026
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: always get the attention down here, right, Get back up

1027
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: to that small, tight knit community, right yeah, And it is.

1028
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: One of the best minds in the sport. Like he's

1029
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: so smart everywhere. He's so technical, and he breaks down

1030
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: stuff on the ground. It makes so easily.

1031
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: And I think that's one of.

1032
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: The pieces that I've been missing the last couple of

1033
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: years is having like a good jiu jitsu coach that

1034
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 4: like with a mind of frem and May. Right, there's

1035
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 4: jus to coaches that are all about jiujitsu, and then

1036
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: there is Mma jiujitsu and I think Jerald, who has

1037
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 4: the most emissions in Middleway history.

1038
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: He's adding so much to my game, so much to

1039
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: my team already.

1040
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: I love it.

1041
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: Well, the last thing I'll say just sort of a

1042
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: parting word for the undisputed Welchwey champion as he begins

1043
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: sort of the next ten weeks. You know, this is

1044
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: what makes the UFC great, right, And I have heard Shavkat, Rockmanov,

1045
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: Jack Dela, Madelena, Ian Maschado, Gary all put you over

1046
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: on a microphone before they were maybe on the cusp

1047
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: of the world title, right for whatever reason. And now

1048
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: that you're the champion, they all know as top contenders, right,

1049
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: even if they're young, as long as they're on a

1050
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: winning streak, there's a champion at the top of the division.

1051
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: Who's willing to fight them all. And I give you

1052
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for that, because you easily could

1053
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: have been like, gimme useman, man, give me the fucking

1054
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: legacy fight. I don't care these lost three in a row.

1055
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: So good on you. Health is wealth. I hope the

1056
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: next ten weeks go well, and we appreciate you carving

1057
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: out a few minutes at you know, nine pm. Kick

1058
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 1: him out of here though with this. I'm gonna rip

1059
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: on him in the post show, and I'm gonna rip

1060
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: on both of you, so we're all getting out of

1061
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: here together. Don't be doing none of that. He ain't

1062
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: no guest up in this. You got anything else? Happy

1063
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: Dad for Kenny Florian and the welterweight Champion of the world.

1064
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: Blamhammed.

1065
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: My name is Jason Anakin for John Annick too. Appreciate

1066
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: you all being with us live tonight Later