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Speaker 1: Command is Family an extra special edition, a playoff edition

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Speaker 1: of Next Man Up. Now we know our players are busy,

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Speaker 1: they are locked in for the playoffs. However, our Next

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Speaker 1: Man Up is going to be somebody that has a

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Speaker 1: ton of experience, that's been there and done, that has

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Speaker 1: two Super Bowls, one of the best Burgundy and Gold

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Speaker 1: all enjoy this special edition Next Man Up.

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Speaker 2: Commanded Fanning for our Next Man Up.

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Speaker 1: We had to bring in extremely special legend for this

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Speaker 1: last one. This is the last episode as we headed

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs. But since we headed to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: we had to bring somebody to know a little bit

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Speaker 1: about that two time Super Bowl champion, one of the

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Speaker 1: best wide receivers to ever run that Burgundy and Gold,

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Speaker 1: if not the best welcome you get, my guy, Jerry Clark, Gary,

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Speaker 1: how you doing, brother.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good. I was looking for Art Monk. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're giving such a great introduction. I was looking for

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Speaker 3: Art Monk that I was looking for Ricky Samders. I

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Speaker 3: that were quite honestly one of the best in the

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Speaker 1: Go all three of you guys deserved that distinctions while

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Speaker 1: to think that all three of you guys played together.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get into that.

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Speaker 1: But Gary, if you're not familiar, next minue that we

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Speaker 1: liked talking about the man behind the helmet. So I

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Speaker 1: want to start from the beginning with you, Gary, so

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Speaker 1: we don't get to hear a lot from you, brother,

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Speaker 1: So I want to take my time with this for

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Speaker 1: to really talk to you. So let's start from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Because you've had a Hall of Fame level career, and

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Speaker 1: your career did not start. How many Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: level careers start. You actually started in the USFL when

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Speaker 1: you started your pro career, correct.

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Speaker 3: I did. I did as the Quite honestly, a lot

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Speaker 3: They paid a little bit better than the NFL did,

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Speaker 3: and the reason that I went there first because the

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Speaker 3: And the USFL, I was a six pick in the draft,

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Speaker 3: I kind of already knew I could do everything I

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Speaker 3: So I was fortunate around like a four to three

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Speaker 3: When I came to Washington my first four games, I

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Speaker 1: Even though you have these big names there, you still

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Speaker 1: Is that where that ship originally came from? Where would

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Speaker 3: I think so, just because you know, because I was

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Speaker 3: my rookie year, I weighed one hundred and fifty five

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Speaker 2: Hey, and you looked good at five nine.

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Speaker 2: When you look back at that rookie year, what did.

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Speaker 1: You learn most about yourself as an NFL player playing

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was I was so fortunate because we

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Speaker 3: So I'm learning from the best receiver has ever put

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Speaker 3: But I remember telling somebody I said, well, I'd rather

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Speaker 3: that's the case. But of course I never went undefeated

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Speaker 3: Definitely should have went undefeated. I'm still mad about that.

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Speaker 2: What do you think happened in that game where you

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Speaker 3: Well, we were feeling ourselves. That's the first mistake. Typically,

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Speaker 3: I don't like to lose again. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: and that's why Joe and Joe gives him my opinion

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Speaker 1: Don't that anybody here would argue with you on that one.

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Speaker 1: Back to Art Monks, you talk about that healthy competition.

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Speaker 1: You got to say, you guys all wanted to be

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Speaker 1: Because you said there was that competition there, However, you

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Speaker 3: What did you learn from Art? Never like anything else?

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Speaker 3: Like I shadowed him, Art turned around right behind him

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Speaker 3: His work ethic, it was unbelievable. Like Art is the

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Speaker 1: And since we're talking about Art, let's talk about the

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Speaker 3: I was right there in front of a man. Just

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Speaker 3: Not that I'm mad about it anything. I'm not sad

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure I mean, be honest, Gary, be honest, right.

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Speaker 1: That has to be like a little something right because again, yes,

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Speaker 1: That stick with you a little bit. Not being able

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was like, there he running scrambling, I'm

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm talking to you, man, because there is

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Speaker 1: You mentioned it, and I'm glad you mentioned it for him,

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Speaker 3: You don't have to finish the statement. I mean you

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Speaker 3: But he gets doubled. So what we looked at and

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Speaker 3: we took it as an insult. If I ain't get

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Speaker 3: think about it, Terry just broke Ricky's record for touchdowns

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl twenty two he crushes He's a break Land

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Speaker 3: Ring of fan We don't have that Super Bowl ring

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Speaker 3: he started it eighty yards eighty yard touchdown pass. Right,

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Speaker 3: we're running. Charlie ten Hitch, the defensive back for Denver,

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Speaker 3: If we lose a football game and I catch zero balls,

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Speaker 1: That be three guys in their position that are ultimate competitors. Hey,

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Speaker 1: was it all just okay?

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Speaker 1: What was those conversations like between just y'all three as

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Speaker 3: A lot of times mostly about making sure that we

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Speaker 3: I want your kids to play like us. Don't get

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Speaker 3: Joe Gibbs favorite receiver out of the three of us,

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Speaker 3: You asked Joe today, He's going to tell you the truth.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy you have all of these alpha males in

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't always work out, especially when guys want

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Speaker 1: We're in that locker on that field because of this

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Speaker 3: example one game. And by the way, Josh Jose a

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00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 3: brilliant coach. He understood that you have to have fire

435
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: and ice because there's times when you have to have

436
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: your receiver comp to say we got we got a

437
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: nice lead. You gotta chill out. You gotta be cool,

438
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: but from behind, you need that fire to come in.

439
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 3: And that's the difference between men. Are like, if we're

440
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 3: not playing well, I'm going after you. Ricky Sanders was

441
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: having a great game and me and Art was having

442
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: an okay game. But Ricky was having a great game

443
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: and knock out a game. I think it was in

444
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: I think it was the season that he had twelve touchdowns,

445
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: quite honestly, and he started cramping up, so he took

446
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 3: hisself out of the game. Ricky's my best friend on

447
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 3: the team. I almost have called Ricky every curse word

448
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 3: in the book, basically telling him and be like, you

449
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 3: get your But I didn't say but, but get your

450
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 3: butt back onto the field right now. Go drink some water,

451
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 3: go get hydrated. I don't care because he was killing it,

452
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: killing it. What do you do? Go back into the game,

453
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 3: score a touchdown? Was like that. But we love each other,

454
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like, for for example, a

455
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: lot of guys, if you'd have said that, he would

456
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: have held a grudge against me. But we don't look

457
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 3: like we're just telling each other you can play better,

458
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: get out there and play better. We don't hold grudges.

459
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 3: We're not mad because you're telling me I'm not doing

460
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: my job, because probably I'm not doing my job. The

461
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: goal is to win the football game. Win. That's just

462
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: what it is. And that's what I loved about our team.

463
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 3: That's what I loved about my teammates, and it was

464
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: embreded in ninety nine percent of us. Just go out

465
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 3: there and play to win the football game. If we win,

466
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: everything's okay. Everything's okay. I don't care if I called

467
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: a pass if we won the football game, because that's

468
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 3: the goal, is to win the football game. Because the

469
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: promised Land is getting the ring, getting the super Bowl trophy.

470
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 3: That's what wins do for you. It gets you the.

471
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: Trophy and holding each other accountable get you. And clearly

472
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: you've seen what getting that trophy feels like. You've felt it.

473
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: You've been there, not once, but twice. Let's talk about

474
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: that first Super Bowl. We hear all the time about

475
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams and how everything has to go right

476
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: fourteen to win the Super Bowl. How tough it is

477
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: fourteen to win the Super Bowl. I mean they say,

478
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: even down to the managers, the equipment people, every single

479
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: person involved has to be all point. So when you

480
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: look back at that very first Super Bowl run that

481
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: you guys made, in your opinion, what went.

482
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: Right for you guys.

483
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 3: Like, we don't panic. A Joe Gibbs team does not panic.

484
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: You know, we started off slow in the first quarter,

485
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: you know, down ten nothing, you know, we don't pan.

486
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: We still knew that we was going to win the

487
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 3: football game. I mean, that's how sure we were. Calm down,

488
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna win this football game. And when Ricky Sanders

489
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 3: and that started the second quarter, Charlie ten Hitch, that

490
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: guy came up. After that, it was over. There was

491
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: a I mean, we could have scored seventy points that game.

492
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: We wanted to Joe. Joe stopped throwing the ball because

493
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: he's just that, he's just that good. He's he does

494
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: a leaving embarrassing anybody because you feel like you have

495
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: to play them again at some point in time. You know.

496
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: I mean, he's and he's just he wouldn't he would

497
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: not do that. But our running game was on point two.

498
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: So Timmy Smith's got over twenty yards and that came in.

499
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 3: That's his first Super Bowl and he didn't know he

500
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: was going to start until they called his name out.

501
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: Coach told him like ten minutes before the game that

502
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: he was going to be the starting running back. Come

503
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: on now, and he showed out. He wouldn't showed out too,

504
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: you know. I mean that was you got guys breaking

505
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: Super Bowl records left and right. Come on now, thirty

506
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: five points at eighteen plays, Come on now, come on now,

507
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 3: just give us a rock. Let us do what we do.

508
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 3: The offensive line are telling the Bronco line we'll play.

509
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: We running here, come again, boy, stop it. I'm like,

510
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: this is my first Super Bowl, so I'm like, I'm

511
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: out there listening, right, I'm.

512
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: Like, shut up, Like i don't want him to know

513
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: to play.

514
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just telling them because they don't care. Dude.

515
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: Those holes Shoot, my mom could have ran through those

516
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 3: holes that were so wide. I mean, those guys are hogs. Man.

517
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 3: They were just a whole nother greed of an animal.

518
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: And I mean it was just it was just a

519
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: great time to play football for the Burgan and Gold.

520
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 3: We got the best fans in the world. They travel well,

521
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: they're always behind us, that always there to pick us

522
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 3: up when we need to be picked up. Our twelfth

523
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: man was completely a part of our game. And now

524
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: it's nice to have the twelfth man back. You know,

525
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: it was nice going to a game. We're seeing that

526
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: cars are parked all the way back to the other

527
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: road and fans are staying in the stadium the whole time.

528
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: And then you can look down it and there's only

529
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 3: a few jerseys of the other team as opposed to

530
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 3: have the stadium band jersey the other team. I'm so

531
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 3: excited about this season. I love our court of I

532
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 3: love our receivers, I love Terry McLaren. I'm just a

533
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 3: huge Terry McLaren fan. I got he gave me an

534
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: autograph jersey at the last home game. I got an

535
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: autograph jersey. Actually, autograph jersey came in the mail because

536
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: they wouldn't let mister mclauren bring it into the stadium.

537
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: How you going to not let Terry mclaurn's dad drank

538
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: a jersey into the stadium. I don't know how that happened.

539
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: I really don't know how that happened. But I gave

540
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: him one of my jerseys, and I'm just you cannot

541
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: ask for a better steward of the game, better face

542
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: of the game like his leadership qualities are off the chain,

543
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: and I hope he breaks all of our records, and

544
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 3: all of us couldn't be prouder have a guy like

545
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 3: that be the guy that breaks your records. That's outstanding.

546
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: Can't imagine if I'm in a jerk, I would have

547
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 3: hated that. Terry is like, I mean, he's like he's

548
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 3: like all three of us in one. Like. He has arts,

549
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: he has art calmness, he has Ricky's hands, and he

550
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: has my passion. He's just he keeps the passion with them.

551
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: But he he wants to rock. He wants to rock,

552
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: you know, and if you not get him the rock,

553
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: he does. He doesn't do what I do. He doesn't

554
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 3: go out there and swear and curse everybody out. He

555
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: just silently lets him know, probably with a stare, that

556
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 3: you need to get me the ball so we can

557
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: go out here and win this football game. Come on,

558
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: how you you break the record? That's the way you

559
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: break a record. You got to score. That's the way

560
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: you break a record. Right, oh man? And I won.

561
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: I won.

562
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: We had like a little bet in our suite that

563
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: we're in right because I went to the game. I

564
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: went to the game and uh, that's what I bet.

565
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: I said. I bet that he was scoring the thirteenth

566
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: touchdown to be the all time in the individual season

567
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: person scored the most touchdowns, breaking slick ricks. Right, Ricky

568
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: could not be happier. That's what I mean. Like, we're

569
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: all about family and to us, Terry is like posse.

570
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: That's why we look at him. He's part of the posse.

571
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure Terry would love to hear that.

572
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: And cool.

573
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: It's the way that the OG's, the legends, inter rats

574
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: were not just the stars of the team, but everybody

575
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: top to bottom on the team, the coaching staff, the trainers.

576
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: It's been so cool to see how those legends really

577
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: take pride in helping out the next generation of Burney

578
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: and Gold. So you know Terry for quite some time. Yes,

579
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: this season he is having his best season of his career.

580
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: But we have seen a lot of ebbs and flows,

581
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: ups and downs with Terry as he's had different quarterbacks,

582
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: just office of coordinators, different coaches, different teammates.

583
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: He's been through a lot of stuff through this time.

584
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: As you've had this relationship with Terry, Man, what is

585
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: some advice, What are some of those conversations you've had

586
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: with Terry that I'm sure have helped him get to

587
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: this point.

588
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just me. I'm probably like a fanboy

589
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: when it comes to Terry, Like I'm one of his

590
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: biggest fans, quite honestly, just the way he's always handled himself.

591
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: For him to reach out to me, to have a

592
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: conversation about that spoke volumes to me like a lot

593
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: of a lot of like a lot of players, they

594
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: don't do that because they's like, it's my time. I'm

595
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: the guy. I don't need to talk to anybody else

596
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: because I'm the guy. Terry. No. I mean, he sit

597
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: there and reached out and spoke spoke with me about football, things,

598
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: about things off the field, you know about you know,

599
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: what do you do when football is over? Like we

600
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: didn't think that because we never thought football was going

601
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 3: to be over. I mean we just didn't, you know,

602
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: which It's going to be over for everybody at some

603
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: point in time. It's just what it is. But Terry,

604
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: he's a young man and his parents are her parents

605
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: are stars, by the way. His mom and dad are

606
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: just spectacular. So I see why I can see why

607
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: he's that way. Quite honestly, they're spectacular people as well.

608
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: So I mean to be the best receiver on the

609
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: team and not be intimidated by the legends of the game.

610
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: Speaks volumes to what that player is. Like I said,

611
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: like when he reached out, I mean it caught me

612
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: completely off guard. They caught me off guard when he

613
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: reached out to me because I was already a fan,

614
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: you know, because I don't care who you are. When

615
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: somebody's coming on your records, you pay attention. You just do.

616
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: Because it's been like thirty thirty five years and nobody's

617
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: came close to him anything that I've done. So his

618
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: rookie year, he missed it by He missed it by catch.

619
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: It's crazy, and I think he might have missed it

620
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: by like a yard or something like that as well,

621
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: in terms of the yard part of it. But he's

622
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: made up for that ever since. Uh, he's just he's

623
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: just a quality guy. Again, like I said, his parents

624
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: are quality people. Talking to them, you understand why he

625
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: is so special. He's a special guy tackling what he

626
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: does and how he goes about doing it, and he

627
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: work his work ethic. That's what you see, Like when

628
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: you go to the playoff game. Watch him doing warmers.

629
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: Watch he's the first one probably on the field and

630
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: the last one to go into the locker room before

631
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: they come back out. Catching a rock, catching a rock,

632
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: catching a rock, working on his route running, working on

633
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: his route running. His hands are spectacular, his route running

634
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: is spectacular, and when you need it most, he shows

635
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: up every single time when you need it most. And

636
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: we needed that win against Dallas just because it's Dallas.

637
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I don't care that

638
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: what's going to the playoffs. You need to go into

639
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: the playoffs with a winning record, on a winning streak.

640
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: People that have a losing streak going into the playoffs,

641
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: they tend to lose. Like I'm not saying there still

642
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: is going to lose, but they're on a losing streak,

643
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: and I won't be surprised if they did, because all

644
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you start to doubt things, you start

645
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: to doubt yourself. Terry M. Lauren never doubts his ability

646
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: to play football. He knows how good he is, and

647
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: like me, I think without the profanity or yelling at

648
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: everybody or yelling at the coaches, he is driven by

649
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: wanting to be the best receiver in the NFL period period,

650
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: not the second best, the best. And he's going to

651
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: drive yourself that way until he's recognized as the.

652
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: Best, much like yourself.

653
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: And you look at Terry and this season he's had,

654
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: it's been so special, it's been so magical, and it

655
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: kind of exemplifies what this team has done this year

656
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: because those are the adjunctives being used for this season. Special, magical,

657
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: and you have made it to the Promised Land again,

658
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: not once, but twice. Now you look at this team

659
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs for the first time since twenty twenty.

660
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: You look at this team and the special things that

661
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: are going on, and you look back at those two

662
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams you were a part of.

663
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: Do you see parallels there?

664
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: Do you see similarities where you say, Okay, we might

665
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: be able to do this this year.

666
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: The similarity that I see is they take things down

667
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: to the to the end and they win. They win.

668
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: We didn't care if we won pretty or one ugly.

669
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: We just wanted to win. We don't care if we've

670
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: scored fifty points or we scored three points. We just

671
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: wanted to win. If we beat you three zero, three

672
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 3: to two, we win. That's the way we looked at it.

673
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 3: So what I love about this team is they're gonna

674
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 3: be Tampa. There's no doubt in my mind they're gonna

675
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: be Tampa. They are, and then anything can happen. What

676
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: I want them to do is they have their first

677
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: playoff win, because we haven't had a playoff win years.

678
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: We're like in the teams, So if you can get

679
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: to the second level, then anything can happen. Watch it

680
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: happens in and then what I want the players to

681
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: see is how this city erupts. When Washington Football has

682
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: played well, it erupts the players. They think they have

683
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: it good now they have no idea how they go

684
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: to have it once they win that first playoff game

685
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: and move forward after that. Unbelievable.

686
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: And we talk about comparisons.

687
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: I think that's what I've heard from the legends the

688
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: most is the fan base that the way that the

689
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: fans are acting, the way that they're showing up on

690
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: the road, the way that they're showing up on home

691
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: seems very similar to those rock star like days when

692
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: y'all war winning super Bowls. As somebody that's been here

693
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: that has not left even after you retired, how happy

694
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: are you to see this fan base have a resurgence

695
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: and be re energized by this team.

696
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: Oh? I mean, I love it. I'm coming back on

697
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: the plane today from Dallas because we were slowed in

698
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: because we're slow back here, so we missed a flight

699
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: for a couple of days. But I just make sure

700
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: I get back here. Though I had a reason I

701
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: get back here. But dude, it's all resking fans on

702
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: the plane, all resking fans, all rescuing. Maybe ten seats

703
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: weren't because they got all their gear on, so you

704
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: know what they are, They got all their girl you know.

705
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: I must have saw about four Terry mclaughan jersey, probably

706
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: about six Jaydon Daniel jerseys.

707
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: You know.

708
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 3: I mean, it's unbelievable the excitement that people have about

709
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: this team. Like, come on, you go, Trump all the

710
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: way to Dallas, cold weather, You're gonna travel all the

711
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: way to Dallas to watch the game? No, No, tell

712
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: them what type of seatuers going to have, you know,

713
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: And they still come out and come, you know, and

714
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: even the Dallas the Dallas fans had to give it

715
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: up and be like, we hope you guys take it

716
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: to the show. And I mean coming from a Dallas fan,

717
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: that shocked me. I was like, I hope we take

718
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: it to this show too. Look what I'm saying week,

719
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: but I hope they take it to the show as well.

720
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: Well.

721
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: It is we when you're involved because of all the

722
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: things you have done in the Burgundy and gold jersey,

723
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: in your Redskins jersey, and we love talking about the

724
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: commands now, but of course we are here to talk

725
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: about you and Gary. I loved hearing you give your

726
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: fellow teammates all the love that you did, and I

727
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: hope I didn't gash you up too much on the

728
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: intro when I talk about best receivers to wear that

729
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: burgundy and gold. But to me, what was so impressive

730
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: about you, Gary is you did what you did in

731
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: a league where the size that you were was not

732
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: that wasn't the prototypical size for a wide receiver. We

733
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: see a league today that's a lot different than the

734
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: league that you came in, and I look at somebody

735
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: like you, look at Santana Mars, look at Steve Smith

736
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: as those pioneers for the position, especially those guys that

737
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: were smaller but could line up anywhere on the field,

738
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: and do it all. So Gary, I don't know if

739
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: you've been asking before. I put you on the spot

740
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: right here now. If I want to ask you top

741
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: five small receivers in NFL history one? Would you put

742
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: yourself on that list? Into what other four guys would

743
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: be on that list with you?

744
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: Ricky Sanders would be on the list. Who else would

745
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: be on the list? I love Santana, I love what

746
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: he did. I mean that boy come out and stay,

747
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: that play and cowboy killer when your name, your nickname

748
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: is a cowboy killer, lets you know how you.

749
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: Did it a long time too?

750
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: Uh? Who else would I put on that list? Hm hmm.

751
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: And it doesn't just have to be Redskins or Commanders.

752
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: No, I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to. I'm

753
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: just trying to think of guys that are fitting to

754
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: that size point. I mean, because I mean Jerry with

755
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 3: Jerry was over six feet, so Jerry doesn't fit into

756
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: that size point. But that boy could play obviously, the

757
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: care from Cincinnati kind of bad boy end up going

758
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: what was his name? Kid from Cincinnati? He could play too.

759
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: He talked a lot of trash.

760
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: Not show because old Show was above six foot, So

761
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: that a six foot Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I mean

762
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: that might have been a lot, but I'm pretty sure

763
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: Old Show was in that six foot ranch.

764
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: But a bad man.

765
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: Nonetheless, I enjoyed watching him.

766
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: He moved like a smaller receiver, So I get that

767
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: because of his footworking route running was just so rare

768
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: for somebody that size.

769
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: I understand why he thought that.

770
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: No, it's not so. But quite honestly, I'm happy with

771
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: just Santana and Ricky. Quite honestly, I like Ricky Sanders.

772
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: I just like I said, like I've never this is

773
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: how good Ricky Sanders was. I mean, I'm always a

774
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: guy that I pride myself on trying to think three

775
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: steps ahead of everybody else. That's just how I am.

776
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: Like, I.

777
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: Saw how good Ricky Sander was the first day of practice,

778
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: and I went and made sure that we became roommates

779
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 3: outside of the Like when he I think, rick you

780
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: should we should get an apartment together. So every night

781
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: when Ricky went to sleep, I went out and trained.

782
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: I went to he go to sleep, I wait to

783
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: he go to sleep, and I go out and put

784
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: in more work. Because he was that he was just

785
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: naturally gifted. And when you got a guy who naturally

786
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 3: gifted now sick with Rick where it took his natural

787
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: gifts and then tied it down with my work ethic.

788
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody can touch him in because

789
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: I was just I'm just a grinder man. At the

790
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: end of the day, I want to be the best,

791
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 3: you know. And I made a promise to myself when

792
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: I got heard of that, when I saw Art Monk

793
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: and I saw Charlie Brown. The promise I made to

794
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: myself was, I'm going to be the best resking receiver

795
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: number wise, why I'm here, Why I'm here, I'm going

796
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: to be the guy. So with Terry is chasing now,

797
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 3: he's chasing my first eight years. When he's chasing play's

798
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: art because art all time, the art was here for

799
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: like fourteen fifteen years, maybe sixteen years, but my first

800
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: eight why I was here. And you can go do

801
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: the math. You can go do the math. Catches yards

802
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: yards per catch, touchdown, you go do the math. I'm

803
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: going to come up at eight four. It's going to

804
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: come up because I'm driven that way, you know. And

805
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: I just I just from the time I was a

806
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: little kid five and a half years old, tell my

807
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: dad want to be a professional football player. I started training.

808
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 3: He woke me up. The next morning, my dad started

809
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 3: me on the journey. Don't get me wrong. Next morning,

810
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: five thirty am, your dream just came to reality. And

811
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: from that day until I stopped playing, I got every

812
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: morning five thirty am putting in my roadwork. I stopped playing.

813
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 3: The last time I SAP, I was in Arizona. I'm

814
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 3: going on a ten mile run. About thirty I got

815
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: the mail five and realized, I don't play anymore.

816
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't have to do this anymore.

817
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: I don't have a team. I don't play anymore. I

818
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: stopped running right then and there and walked the five

819
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: miles back because I was done. At that point in time,

820
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: there was nothing else for me to prove. You know,

821
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: I wasn't competing against anybody anymore because I wasn't playing anymore.

822
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: But I wanted to always be the guy no matter

823
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 3: where I was at, like at the end of the day,

824
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: like it started off, Offense was built around eighty one,

825
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: but by the time it was finished, it was built

826
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: around the three of us. You know, it's built around

827
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: eighty one, eighty three, and eighty four, and you know

828
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: eighty four came out, okay a lot of those times.

829
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: Man and Gary Man, I love that story and I'm

830
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: glad you mentioned it about you being five years old

831
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: telling your father this is my dream, this is my goal,

832
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 1: and him saying, Okay, next day, we are starting this dream.

833
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: It's not every day that a parent or a family

834
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: member believes in anything a.

835
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: Five year old has to say.

836
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: But your father not only believed in you, he gave

837
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: you all the tools you needed to succeed. How important

838
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: was your father's belief in you, not only in five,

839
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: not only.

840
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 2: In ten, but throughout your life?

841
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: How important was that belief from your father and what

842
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: you were able to do on that field?

843
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: Gare That's just huge. Like I mean, first of all,

844
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: I'm a deacon son, right, so with my dad basically

845
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: kind of like when I first saw him, all he said,

846
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: are you sure it's just my dad? Like sixty five

847
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: two sixty exact opposite of me. I'm like my mom's size,

848
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 3: right So, And because I was like, my dad wouldn't

849
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: lie to me, like he ain't gonna go to hell.

850
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: So that's why I looked at it. You know, I'm

851
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: five and a half years old, right, I was like,

852
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: I must feel to be able to do this, because

853
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: then I really started making me believe in myself. I

854
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, my dad sacon, Yeah, I can do this.

855
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: Then and then Jenna's son. We live paycheck to paycheck.

856
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: My dad would always figure out a way to slip

857
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 3: away from work, you know, because he worked like three

858
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: jobs at the time. You know, he slipped away work.

859
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: Never missed one of our football games and any of

860
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: his kids football games, never missed it, not one. And

861
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: never missed any of my professional games, even though I

862
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 3: went to Phoenix and Miami, never missed a home game.

863
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: My dad was, I think is the reason why I

864
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: was so successful. What I did is I saw how

865
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 3: hard he worked, how he took care of his family,

866
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: you know, and he believed in me. I think a

867
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 3: father's belief of parents belief. You know, my mom loved everybody,

868
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: you know, but my dad. To have your dad believe

869
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: in you when you're a boy, especially in that time,

870
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: in that generation, I mean it speaks volumes like I

871
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: mean the start driving force today. At the end of

872
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: the day to this day, I don't like to lose.

873
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: I always like to get what I want. I'm just

874
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: driven that way, like if I want it, I'm going

875
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 3: to get it. It's just what it is I make.

876
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: But what I am is it may take time to

877
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 3: get it. Like it took me until I was twenty

878
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: one years old, befo I could play professional football. That's

879
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: a long time ago. And like I said, we're a

880
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: blue collar family. Every other kid on my block, you know,

881
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: once they got to a certain age, they helped out

882
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: with the family, went and got a job. My dad

883
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: never made me get a job. He said, as long

884
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 3: as you put in the work, you won't have to work.

885
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: I never my first job ever was playing professional football.

886
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: Ever in my life, I didn't have a newspaper oute.

887
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: My first job ever was playing professional football. And it's

888
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: all thanks to my my dad believing it to me,

889
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: my mom believing in me as well, and for them

890
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: provided me the opportunity so I could go train, you know,

891
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 3: I mean that was the thing. And I felt that

892
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 3: I owed them to late bad. I felt bad for

893
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: two sets of people, my parents first and foremost, because

894
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: they're in the crowd. And if I'm playing bad, everybody no.

895
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: My mom made sure everybody knew that she was my mom.

896
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: I was like Mom, you might not want to do that.

897
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: I played bad and they're gonna get mad at you then,

898
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: And those were my those those were my people. I mean,

899
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: the fans are your boss. People don't want to believe

900
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: it or not, but that's why you have a game,

901
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: because those people come out to watch you play, and

902
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: they come out and support that. Those fans go away.

903
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: Guess what, The salaries go away, the money goes away.

904
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: They stopped paying you. Because the fans make the game

905
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: just what it is. So I looked at them kind

906
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: of as they were my boss. I even told mister

907
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: Cook that they were my boss. I told you sometimes

908
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: I should just shut up when I was a player.

909
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: But who I told the owner was like, you know,

910
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: you're not really my boss. The fans are. And he

911
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: kind of looked at me kind of like, okay, I

912
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: know what to say. Now. My dad was in the

913
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 3: locker room. That's the first time my dad had jerked

914
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 3: me since I was a kid. He jerked you that day.

915
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 3: He's like, boy, you do not say that. You do

916
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: not say that to him. But I mean, but I'm

917
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: just being honest. I'm bluntly honest. That's that's that's good

918
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: and bad. I guess somebody, I'm not gonna I'm gonna

919
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: tell you, tell you how I feel. I'm just that way.

920
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: I could never I'm passionate that way. You know, if

921
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: I think you're screwing up, I'm gonna tell you you're

922
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: screwing up. I don't care how big or small you are.

923
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: And if I'm screwing up, I want you to tell

924
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: me I'm screwing up. That's why I never took it

925
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: to heart. When people got in my face about not

926
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: doing what they thought I should be doing, I looked

927
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: at it and like, yeah, you're right, I need to

928
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 3: go back and get I need to get I need

929
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: to get this done. So I think if people are

930
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 3: looking at it that way, you don't get an attitude.

931
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 3: When your teammates come up to you, you will play

932
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 3: better because you don't want to let your teammates down

933
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: and so aout. It's always about the team. Don't get

934
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: me wrong. I love being the guy, but it's about

935
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 3: the team. That's why when I didn't catch your pass.

936
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 3: So when we won a football game, I'm the happiest

937
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: guy on the planet. That's a true because we won

938
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: the football game, and winning of what counts. You go

939
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: out to win, period. It's just it's not rocket science,

940
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: and people try to make it right. It's no, it's

941
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 3: not rocket science. Our job is to go win football games.

942
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: Their job is to go to Tampa and kick that ass.

943
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: That's their job. That's just what it is. Their job

944
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 3: is not to go there and lose. It could happen,

945
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: but I don't think it will because I think I

946
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: think they got the right leadership, they got the right

947
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 3: coaching staff, they got the right players that they believe now.

948
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: They believe now, and when you believe as a team,

949
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 3: nothing can hold you back.

950
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: Said like a true competitor, said like a true winner.

951
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: Six hundred and ninety nine receptions over ten eight hundred

952
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: receiving yards, sixty five touchdowns in eleven season. Gary Clark

953
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: missed nine games. Was the first wide receiver in NFL

954
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: history to start his year. I believe it was at

955
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: least fifty passes. In your first ten NFL seasons. You

956
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: have all of these decisions, things that you're first of, things,

957
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: things that have never been done, never been accomplished. Again,

958
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: does Gary Clark belong in the Hall of Fame?

959
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: You know, that's for other people to decide. You know,

960
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. When I finished my careerre honestly,

961
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: I thought I thought it'd be a shoot in. Let's

962
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: just be thinking. Because when I finished with my career,

963
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: I was seventh in all time receiving yards, and I

964
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 3: was eighth in all time catches. I just figured it

965
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: was I figured I was a lock. But it took

966
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 3: so long to get Art Monk in, like Art should

967
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 3: have been first flaming. Come on, he's an all time

968
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 3: leading receiver. How does he not automatically go in after

969
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: his five years and then you have to wait five

970
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 3: years before you can go in? How does he not

971
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 3: automatically go in? He goes in like but like fifte

972
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: ten years later, some crap like that. So by that time,

973
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, now we're passing league. We're not

974
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: a running league anymore. So now I don't know where. Man,

975
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm thinking like fiftieth something like that, maybe sixtieth,

976
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: all the time leading the receiver in yards and receptions,

977
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 3: so that eight don't look so good anymore. Eight look good,

978
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: sixtieth don't look so good. So do I think I'm

979
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 3: along again? If we would have got arted sooner? I

980
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 3: think yes, but again it's not my decision. Other people

981
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 3: have to make that decision. I'm not going to be

982
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: that guy that begged somebody to let me in. I'm

983
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: just not built that way. But I think why I

984
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: played I'll help my own was it was me and Jerry.

985
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: When I played, it was me and Jerry. That's why

986
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: I was chasing Jerry. I wasn't chasing anybody else, you know.

987
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I guess. If I get in,

988
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: I get in. If I don't get in, I don't

989
00:50:59,040 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 3: get in.

990
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: Gary, tell you what, man, you ask any Redskin, any

991
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: Commander fan, they will say you are a Hall of

992
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 1: Famer to them and that you belong in. And Gary,

993
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: I got a feeling that and that one day is

994
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: going to happen. Man, things are changing around here and

995
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: you have been a big part of that. Man, we

996
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: appreciate you being involved with this team. Sticking around. I

997
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: could tell there's a new love of resurgence, not only

998
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: from the fan base, from the legs as well. So

999
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: we appreciate that so much. Like I said to start

1000
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: the show, Gary, this is all about you. So we've

1001
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: saw Commanders, we've talked to playoffs. He talked about history.

1002
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: But one thing that's so impressive to me about you

1003
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: is that you weren't just a winner before you made

1004
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: it to NFL. You want just a winner when you

1005
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: got to NFL, but even after you retired, you have

1006
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: found ways to win in a bunch of different ways.

1007
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: So I want to give you a chance right now

1008
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: to bring your partner in and let's talk about the

1009
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: things you got going on right now off the field

1010
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: before we let you go.

1011
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: If that's cool, Gary.

1012
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 3: I appreciate that you know. So ni L's coming in now,

1013
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 3: and trust me, people are rather listen to her than

1014
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: listen to me because what she's doing with the n

1015
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 3: I like from the education plan for like we have

1016
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 3: legends that will be training these kids because these kids

1017
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 3: want to play eventually in the NFL, and at the

1018
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: level that we're at right now, Like as a receiver,

1019
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to know more than ninety nine percent of

1020
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: the people that you talk to moving forward, no more

1021
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: than your college coach, because nine times out of ten

1022
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: they did not up play at this level. They don't

1023
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 3: have the experience at that level, and they damn sure

1024
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 3: it wasn't me at that level. There was a few

1025
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 3: were when I was playing like only seven and eight

1026
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 3: before they were. But the education piece is important as well,

1027
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: like understanding what to do with your money when you're

1028
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 3: done while you're playing. Like a lot of us made

1029
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: mistakes because we're blue collar kids. We don't know about money.

1030
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: We don't know how to handle that money, you know,

1031
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: so most of us, and we know we didn't make

1032
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: the kind of money that they make now, of course,

1033
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: but that money, you make one mistake and it's gone.

1034
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: Like perfect example, I'm sixty two years old and I'm

1035
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 3: still working. You know, Terry McLane would not be working

1036
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: at sixty two years old unless he wants to be

1037
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: working at sixty two years old. That's what it is.

1038
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 3: So what I did, I surrender ourselves with some great people,

1039
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: some great individuals. You know, we're creating this platform that

1040
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let the young lady explain it to you,

1041
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: and you're gonna be impressed because she's like you, like

1042
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: you're cerebral. You're very cerebral. You know. That's why I

1043
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 3: don't like being inside you too much, because you're smarter

1044
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: than me. That bothers me a so, but you're gonna

1045
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: see she's cerebral I'm gonna let her explain what she

1046
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: does with our platform that's going to change these kids' lives.

1047
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: And you're gonna see a lot of kids that we

1048
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: train coming to the league, but when they come in,

1049
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: when they come out of the league, they will be

1050
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: just as successful, just as successful. I'm gonna turn it

1051
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: over here. Come on, girl, just take the chid Hi.

1052
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: Right, Welcome in the next man.

1053
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking it time, taking the time to

1054
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: come join us and get some game on us.

1055
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 4: All right, So he ad a lot of great things

1056
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 4: about you and the show, and just want to share

1057
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 4: a little bit more. Gary already talk a lot about it,

1058
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 4: and as you're hearing you guys talk about what it

1059
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: takes to go from five years old to professional athlete,

1060
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 4: the families, all of that. The fan base is also

1061
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 4: inspiring because it's a long journey and it doesn't take

1062
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 4: that one athlete, right, it doesn't take one mind, It

1063
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 4: takes the whole entire network. It really takes a village.

1064
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 4: So that's what this is all about. How do you

1065
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 4: bring all these people who is here to support that

1066
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 4: one person who has a dream and there the daring

1067
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 4: personality to go after that to then be successful. A

1068
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 4: young person's mind is just developing thinking about different influences.

1069
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 4: They're friends there the things that friends likes, but also

1070
00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 4: when it comes to being very disciplined, learning from the best,

1071
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 4: learning from other people's mistakes, and hearing your parents' guidance,

1072
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Speaker 4: and also financial literacy. All of those things are things

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Speaker 4: that Gary and I are working together to make sure

1074
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Speaker 4: that we can put in a way where it's cohesive,

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Speaker 4: it's comprehensive, it's communicating to young people in the language

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Speaker 4: that they understand. Scrolling on social media has trained our

1077
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 4: brain to think. Everything has to be dynamic, everything has

1078
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 4: to be personalized, Everything has to be right now, right here,

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Speaker 4: accessible anywhere, and that's what the platform there does.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we are honored, Thank you so much for join

1081
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: Jepping on the show to talk about this man. That

1082
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: is great things that you guys are doing, paying the

1083
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: way forward. Gary talked about helping out Terry, but he's

1084
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Speaker 1: helping out so many other athletes after the fact, even

1085
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: though he doesn't have to, even though he has all

1086
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: the stats, even though he could just go off also

1087
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: beat somewhere and have a great time, he is choosing

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Speaker 1: to help out the athletes of the future. Thank you

1089
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Speaker 1: so much for jumping on, Gary. Thank you so much

1090
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Speaker 1: for your time.

1091
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Speaker 2: Brother.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate for you for all that you've done for

1093
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: the Burgundy and Gold, and all that you continue to

1094
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: do for this squad right here.

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Speaker 2: Man, I can't wait to see you. I know you're

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Speaker 2: gonna be in Tampa. Brother. I cannot wait to see

1097
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: you man and kick it with you. Man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. Thank you so

1099
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: much for everything you continue to do for not only

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Speaker 1: the game of football, but just for everybody out here

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Speaker 1: in the DMV.

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Speaker 2: Gary. Bro, it's always real talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You know we're gonna chop it up soon. Brother.

1105
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you, man, love you, rock star sounds good Man.

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Speaker 2: Command this family.

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Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed this extra special playoff edition of

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Speaker 1: Next Man Up. If you want to watch our previous episodes,

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Speaker 1: go check them out on the Commander's YouTube page or

1110
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Speaker 1: stream the audio wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 2: Let's get this win in Tampa, baby. This is Next

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Speaker 2: Man Up. I'm Brian Cowen Jr. I'll check you out

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Speaker 2: next Friday