Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and welcome to Access podcast, the podcast about podcast.
Speaker 1: And this week I talked to somebody I have a
Speaker 1: bit of a man crush on. He's naturally syndicated radio host, author, comedian,
Speaker 1: and host of The Bobby Cast Bobby Bones. Which song
Speaker 1: are you just tired of playing? Um? I'm tired of
Speaker 1: playing Waiting on the world changed? What did I said, hey,
Speaker 1: why that I would have one? Would be one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta say I I've been doing. I've
Speaker 1: been I started in radio just like you. I grew
Speaker 1: up in a little town in West Virginia and all
Speaker 1: I ever wanted to do was radio. And uh, I
Speaker 1: still get nervous before I do an interview with somebody
Speaker 1: that I really respect. Do you do you get that
Speaker 1: way too. I get nervous when it's people that I
Speaker 1: looked up to as a kid. So if it's someone
Speaker 1: that maybe isn't even that famous, but if I looked
Speaker 1: up to them as a kid, I'm always like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is really cool because I'm able to be the
Speaker 1: fan again. But I can tell you now, I just
Speaker 1: feel like everybody's got their own crap and I get
Speaker 1: to be friends with some of these people that are
Speaker 1: you know, big stars and they have their own crap too,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, they're a little richer than we are.
Speaker 1: But I just do feel like everybody's humans, So it
Speaker 1: makes my interviewing approached that much easier. I will say
Speaker 1: this though, that I had Chris Stapleton over the house,
Speaker 1: and so christ Apleton doesn't do a lot of interviews,
Speaker 1: like he's silent, and so with Chris, it was a
Speaker 1: little pressure because he was gonna do an hour sit
Speaker 1: down with me, and if I screwed that up? How
Speaker 1: often does someone give talked to Chris Stapleton for an hour.
Speaker 1: So I did feel a little pressure with Chris. But
Speaker 1: other than that, I just try to see everybody is
Speaker 1: like the humans that have their own crap at the
Speaker 1: house that they've gotta deal with just a little more money.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've had so much therapy and I
Speaker 1: still can't get to that point. But I I wish
Speaker 1: I really respected you could do that. I know we
Speaker 1: both have an affinity for Howard Stern's interviews as well.
Speaker 1: What what do you like about Stern and what he
Speaker 1: does with an interview? I think Howard turns the greatest
Speaker 1: radio interviewer that I've ever heard, because One, he makes
Speaker 1: people feel so comfortable that they'll say things they won't
Speaker 1: say in other places. And I think he has the
Speaker 1: benefit of a couple of things. One space, he has
Speaker 1: a lot of spences to to sit someone down, which
Speaker 1: is why I like doing the podcast, because I can
Speaker 1: sit someone down and I put them in a really
Speaker 1: comfortable chair and we just talk and I can see
Speaker 1: them relax and I can see them kind of go okay, okay.
Speaker 1: And with radio just in general, it's a little harder
Speaker 1: to do that because you have maybe eleven minutes, you know,
Speaker 1: and so there are a few things you want to hit.
Speaker 1: But with with Stern, he puts someone in a place
Speaker 1: where they almost forget they're being interviewed, and they also
Speaker 1: see Stern as a peer, which is a really cool thing,
Speaker 1: and so they go in wanting to do a good
Speaker 1: interview for Stern. And that's always been my goal too,
Speaker 1: is to have artists coming to go I really want
Speaker 1: to do a good interview, and this isn't just one
Speaker 1: of the radio tour, like one of the press tours,
Speaker 1: and so that's been one of the things. And I
Speaker 1: listened to all Sterns interview I just listened to a
Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen interview that Howard started with with Mark Tuban,
Speaker 1: and I listened to it like it was brand new today.
Speaker 1: It was that good and that refreshing to hear. And
Speaker 1: you know, Letterman and Stern are my two biggest influences
Speaker 1: from growing up and doing broadcasting, So yeah, he's the greatest.
Speaker 1: I think. One of the things that I think that
Speaker 1: makes you successful that I loved about doing radio, and
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I left morning radio and went
Speaker 1: into podcast was that the whole idea of like living
Speaker 1: your life on the air, and it's not always easy
Speaker 1: to do that, but I know there's a lot of
Speaker 1: that with you and your show and your philosophy on radio.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about that a little bit and like,
Speaker 1: what's you know there? There's some there's some downsides of
Speaker 1: that as well, I'm sure right. I mean, I haven't
Speaker 1: had one single relationship work because I am determined to
Speaker 1: keep my life as real as possible, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think with success, which has been odd to say,
Speaker 1: but I'm at the point now where I had to
Speaker 1: kind of embrace the fact that I've been somewhat successful
Speaker 1: and I can't get on the year and act like
Speaker 1: I haven't been. And so with that, I feel the
Speaker 1: need to be even more personal about my personal life.
Speaker 1: And so it's almost this. I walk myself into a
Speaker 1: trap every single time with relationships because I get into
Speaker 1: them and I go, wow, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: I don't unrelatable to my audience because they can look
Speaker 1: on the internet and see the different you know, success stories,
Speaker 1: radio show, TV, whatever it is. So I need to
Speaker 1: be extra personal. And when I do that, it's killed
Speaker 1: every I guess, every single relationship. So uh, it's just
Speaker 1: something I commit to and so far, you know, it
Speaker 1: has penalized me personally. But also I guess I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have met a lot of these great people in my
Speaker 1: life if it hadn't been for radio. So I guess
Speaker 1: I can look at it that way too. You know.
Speaker 1: You know, my my my wife now, I met her,
Speaker 1: she was a listener. She had sent me an email
Speaker 1: when I was on the air, and we'd been dating
Speaker 1: for about two months, and I said something very indiscreet
Speaker 1: on the air, and she got upset and and I
Speaker 1: my response to her was sorry, this is my this
Speaker 1: is what I do. I'm married to Radio first da
Speaker 1: da da Da Da da da. And then a female
Speaker 1: colleague sat me down and said, hey, buddy, you really
Speaker 1: want this thing to work out. That's probably not the
Speaker 1: best response that you should have when she gets upset
Speaker 1: about something. I'm sure you've had that similar conversation with
Speaker 1: with girlfriends over the years. Yeah, and then I get
Speaker 1: into the habit of first in my earlier Mornings show days,
Speaker 1: and when I was twenty three, that was it. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm committed to being on the air for
Speaker 1: because I just didn't plan on getting married. But then later,
Speaker 1: you know, as I became yeah it's the show would
Speaker 1: get bigger, and I was doing a lot of other
Speaker 1: things and I really didn't have time to do anything
Speaker 1: but work. The only people I wouldn't meet would be
Speaker 1: people in the industry or artists or and so that
Speaker 1: put another stress on the relationship. And you know, my
Speaker 1: last couple of relationships, especially the last one was hurt
Speaker 1: because she was an artist and other companies were penalizing
Speaker 1: her for dating me, and that one really wasn't even
Speaker 1: my fault. So that that what kind of stuck because
Speaker 1: it was a good relationship, Like I finally had one,
Speaker 1: and then you saw a lot of other places penalizing
Speaker 1: her because she was dating me. So finally I figured
Speaker 1: it out, and you know, as usual, it all comes
Speaker 1: crumbling down. I read about that and and and I
Speaker 1: read some transcripts from how you handled it on the air,
Speaker 1: which I thought was just an amazing job. But man,
Speaker 1: radio is a lot more cutthroat than I think people realize,
Speaker 1: and in and I think even country radio people don't
Speaker 1: realize how cutthroat that can be. I mean, were you
Speaker 1: are you still surprised by that? Sometimes I'm not surprised
Speaker 1: because like a bunch of twelve year olds in Nashville,
Speaker 1: like the country format and the labels and radio it's
Speaker 1: like a bunch of kids fighting into sand box. So
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't surprise me because it's so stupid.
Speaker 1: So as you can see, I'm pretty bitter at the
Speaker 1: whole thing. But I don't even me. I don't see
Speaker 1: country radio as just being on a radio going transmitter
Speaker 1: at to car. Like everything I do I do for
Speaker 1: the phone, I do for digital. I'm glad it's on
Speaker 1: the radio, I'm glad it's live. But I do every
Speaker 1: single thing for digital, And if it's the podcast, if
Speaker 1: it's the radio, show, like, I'm just a content provider,
Speaker 1: and so that's my goal every morning is just provide
Speaker 1: content that people can download and stream and hopefully listen live.
Speaker 1: But if we don't look ahead and start building our
Speaker 1: end of the world shelters, we're gonna get left behind.
Speaker 1: I tell people Radio all this all the time, Like,
Speaker 1: if you're just doing a rad deo show and you're
Speaker 1: the only thing is transmitted a car, you can go
Speaker 1: ahead and put the little live clock on because if
Speaker 1: you're still alive anyway, you don't have much time left
Speaker 1: and you have to start building because you know everybody.
Speaker 1: It seemed like people in the podcasting room that everyone
Speaker 1: has a podcast because we're already deep inside of it,
Speaker 1: but they don't. They don't yet really going to mainstream
Speaker 1: itself in the next three to five years. So I
Speaker 1: left radio eight nine years ago. I left the morning show,
Speaker 1: went and helped start this startup Stitcher, and got into podcasting.
Speaker 1: And I just came back eight months ago and to
Speaker 1: take over digital here and I heart in San Francisco
Speaker 1: and help with the podcasting strategy. But when I got here,
Speaker 1: the name I kept hearing was Bobby Bones, And I
Speaker 1: mean I got sick of hearing about you because it
Speaker 1: was like, well, Bobby and Bobby Cat do that, but
Speaker 1: but you know, hearing your talk, I realized, well, this
Speaker 1: is why, because you're willing to be honest about Hey,
Speaker 1: there's a future in this business and it might not
Speaker 1: be the way it's it's been in the past the future,
Speaker 1: and people aren't ready to embrace it because one it's
Speaker 1: more work, or two it's unfamiliar. And those are the
Speaker 1: two things. People are lazy and scared. I'm both of them,
Speaker 1: but I know on both of them. So I go
Speaker 1: ahead and say, all right, so I don't I'd rather
Speaker 1: not work. But if I don't work and I don't,
Speaker 1: go ahead and build this platform, just the Bobby Cast
Speaker 1: for example, if I don't build it now, then when
Speaker 1: everyone is launching a new podcast, I'm just gonna become
Speaker 1: another one of the new launches. So I want to
Speaker 1: build and have my base there. I want to start
Speaker 1: forming it right now, like as early as possible, they
Speaker 1: always did. The best time to plan the tree was
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. The second best time is right now.
Speaker 1: So I started the podcast. I used my own money.
Speaker 1: You have the crappiest equipment still it's in my house.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a terrible room and how it just
Speaker 1: sounds ter everything about its channel. But that's what made
Speaker 1: it actually seem real and cool, and the fact and
Speaker 1: I started with a couple of songwriter friends that and
Speaker 1: then the Bobby Cast is as a podcast, it's like
Speaker 1: the second layer of Nashville. It's basically songwriters, mostly producers
Speaker 1: and sometimes behind the scenes of the radio show. But
Speaker 1: what happened was I really it was just a passion project.
Speaker 1: And for me, even with radio, it was find something
Speaker 1: you love because if you do, you're gonna work harder
Speaker 1: at it. And if you work harder at it, the
Speaker 1: odds are you'll be more successful at it. I don't
Speaker 1: think it would listen to this thing, not in mass quantities. Instead,
Speaker 1: the fact that it's you know, it has followers and
Speaker 1: the seven figures now is shocking to me this early
Speaker 1: because it's a pot it's a podcast with writers and producers,
Speaker 1: and who wants to listen to that? Apparently a lot
Speaker 1: of people do well. I think it speaks back to
Speaker 1: what being real content. And I always say that a
Speaker 1: good podcast creates empathy and also it kind of stimulates
Speaker 1: the same part of the brain is reading a book,
Speaker 1: and if it's a good story and it's told, well,
Speaker 1: you want to sit down and and and be involved
Speaker 1: in And I think that's the key to what you
Speaker 1: do and and and your approach to artists. And just
Speaker 1: like you said, when they come in, they feel comfortable,
Speaker 1: they're having a good time. They want to to be honest,
Speaker 1: and honesty is the key to good podcast. I think
Speaker 1: I love the fact that you say, like reading a book,
Speaker 1: because you know what else podcast allow. The listening live
Speaker 1: on the radio doesn't, and that's pausing it and coming
Speaker 1: back whenever you want. Just like a book, I don't
Speaker 1: read a whole book in a single I don't sit
Speaker 1: down and read a whole book. But if I want
Speaker 1: to read a book for as long as I want,
Speaker 1: I can't. With the podcast. You did the same thing.
Speaker 1: You know how many I have so many podcasts soup
Speaker 1: and stopped at certain points that I just go back to,
Speaker 1: just like I do a book. So I love that analogy.
Speaker 1: I've never thought of it quite like that. But the
Speaker 1: same way, like I had on Barry Dean, who's a
Speaker 1: writer who wrote with Ingram Michaelson and did all these
Speaker 1: big country songs and we talked for an hour and
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. And if it's probably a bit too long
Speaker 1: for one setting, but if someone listened to twenty minutes
Speaker 1: of it and came back later, that's cool by me.
Speaker 1: I'm just putting everything out there, and if you want
Speaker 1: to hear it, great, and if you want to hear
Speaker 1: some others, great, or you want all of it, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: But I think my goal is just to get out
Speaker 1: as much content as closet wall I. I've launched twenty
Speaker 1: six podcasts since I got here in San Francisco on
Speaker 1: this market, and all of all of my jocks, I
Speaker 1: tell them the same thing. You want to do it
Speaker 1: because this is a muscle that you should be stretching.
Speaker 1: You don't get to stretch on the air anymore. And
Speaker 1: that in this format on the radio, they want you
Speaker 1: to stay, stay on the center lane, don't take the offshoots,
Speaker 1: you know, stick to the stick to the program. And
Speaker 1: with with podcasting, you know, it's the opposite. I'm always
Speaker 1: encouraging my talent, get off, get off on the exit,
Speaker 1: take the next exit, you know, you know, to get
Speaker 1: back on. And I think that the time helps out
Speaker 1: without a lot. Do you find that a lot of
Speaker 1: your best material comes from those exits that you didn't
Speaker 1: plan to take on during an interview? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: a couple of things. And you brought up another great
Speaker 1: point to in that with a podcast, there isn't a
Speaker 1: formula that you have to follow. Like in radio, I
Speaker 1: or whomever is doing some big show, we get credited
Speaker 1: with being so crazy and out of the we're still
Speaker 1: following a formula. On the radio. We're still following a formula.
Speaker 1: We get out at certain times to go to break.
Speaker 1: We have this much time to talk. We have to
Speaker 1: get our You know, if people were starting podcast today
Speaker 1: and I have a whole network with a lot to
Speaker 1: a bunch of shows, I actually like it if they
Speaker 1: don't listen to a lot of podcasts, because I don't
Speaker 1: want them to have a formula of what things should
Speaker 1: sound like, you know, much like my radio show when
Speaker 1: I started it and still to this day, like nobody
Speaker 1: on my show ever worked in radio, so they didn't
Speaker 1: have radio brain, So they didn't come in already thinking
Speaker 1: they well, radio should be done this way. And that's
Speaker 1: why I hired the people that I hired. They were
Speaker 1: my friends already and they didn't have radio brain, and
Speaker 1: you're starting to see some people now to have podcast brain,
Speaker 1: and I tell them, well, well, well you have all
Speaker 1: of this space to do whatever you want, trying not
Speaker 1: to make your podcast sound like anything else. And so
Speaker 1: when I work with like a Christian Bush who from
Speaker 1: sugar Land who's doing a podcast on my network, or
Speaker 1: a Jake go On who's an artist, or I have
Speaker 1: a girl who's doing uh, you know, fashion stuff, I
Speaker 1: don't want them to sound like other podcasts. Or if
Speaker 1: they say what podcast did I listen to? You know,
Speaker 1: you almost don't want to have them listen to podcasts
Speaker 1: that are similar material because you don't want them following
Speaker 1: that same kind of step. So yes, for me, it's
Speaker 1: a different muscle completely, and I love it because of that.
Speaker 1: But it also what people start saying, I want to
Speaker 1: sound like this podcast like you don't have to. There
Speaker 1: are no rules. It's not like radio in that way
Speaker 1: when you talk about building you know, the team around,
Speaker 1: you're not not coming from radio and and not having
Speaker 1: folks listen to podcasts. It's just it makes me think
Speaker 1: about how this is still the wild West, and and
Speaker 1: there's and I tell people all the time that we've
Speaker 1: only scratched maybe the not even the surface of like
Speaker 1: what kind of podcasts that people can do now with
Speaker 1: the Natural Podcast Network, I know a lot of the
Speaker 1: plan is to is to bring podcasts to to to
Speaker 1: the people, you know, to make it you know, not
Speaker 1: this you know ethereal world of NPR guys, uh, you
Speaker 1: know doing podcasts. How how important do you think that
Speaker 1: is as far as reaching new audiences And do you
Speaker 1: think radio has an opportunity to really do that. I
Speaker 1: think I'm lucky because I have a huge platform to
Speaker 1: promote a different platform, and I've been able to do
Speaker 1: that with you know, my stand up or with music
Speaker 1: or or whatever else. And now I've found that I
Speaker 1: can use it to promote podcasting, which is similar well
Speaker 1: so but you know, so a stand up comedy, so
Speaker 1: it is a similar thing. But most people, most people
Speaker 1: aren't habitually podcasting, and so especially that listened to my format,
Speaker 1: and so I can say, hey, listen, is that easy?
Speaker 1: Like it's for free. All you have to do is subscribe,
Speaker 1: and I have a whole new audience. And that's why
Speaker 1: we developed a Nashville podcast network is because I saw
Speaker 1: just kind of a need for content and people being
Speaker 1: hungry for this content that I didn't think we're going
Speaker 1: to reach a wide audience and it did, and I
Speaker 1: started to go, Wow, people will listen to songwriters. What
Speaker 1: about if a songwriter did a podcast? Well, what if
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, it just feels like, like you said,
Speaker 1: a very stuffy room right now where everyone is too
Speaker 1: cool for school that's doing one because all the big
Speaker 1: ones are you know, the the cool. You know, they're
Speaker 1: very gonna be hi to even understand the technology, which
Speaker 1: really isn't the case. So we know that it's more
Speaker 1: inside of it. But it's teaching the audience that it's
Speaker 1: just one too. And you have all this content on
Speaker 1: your phone. You're probably listening to the radio show on
Speaker 1: your phone anyway, so it's just as easy, and it's
Speaker 1: on demand. I want to go back to you know,
Speaker 1: you've launched it that where you do a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: You're an author. I just watched your Ted Talk and
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you how much I appreciated
Speaker 1: that because I always tell the story I teach your
Speaker 1: university and I tell students this story that the first
Speaker 1: time I was on the air, and and the and
Speaker 1: the Ted Talk is is all about winning by losing
Speaker 1: and if you haven't, please go watch it. My first
Speaker 1: day on the air, I was sixteen years old at
Speaker 1: a small AM station in West Virginia and I had
Speaker 1: to put a needle on an album that played the
Speaker 1: sounds of Snatra at six am on on Sunday mornings,
Speaker 1: and I had to do the weather. And the first
Speaker 1: day I was on the air, the guy that owned
Speaker 1: the station was in the studio with me, and or
Speaker 1: he was in the other room. And I put the
Speaker 1: needle on. It's scratched, and I yelled, shipped into the
Speaker 1: mike three times, and he comes in and he turns
Speaker 1: the mic off and he picks up the need only
Speaker 1: puts it on the thing and he just looked at
Speaker 1: me and he said, you're never going to do that again,
Speaker 1: are you? I said nope, and he walked out. And
Speaker 1: that was that man. And it was just that idea
Speaker 1: of like, hey, you're gonna you're gonna screw up, You're
Speaker 1: gonna yell shoot into the mike three times. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people don't realize that
Speaker 1: when they hear somebody and they see you, you know,
Speaker 1: look at Bobby's doing all these things that that didn't
Speaker 1: just happen overnight. You know that that that takes a
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes to get to the point where you're at.
Speaker 1: That's funny, man. First of all, that's the hilarious story,
Speaker 1: and I can relate like so hard. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: for me, there was a guy wrote an article like
Speaker 1: three months ago. It was like, yeah, boyebones, he doesn't
Speaker 1: know the difference being born on third base and hitting
Speaker 1: a triple. He was born on third base. And I
Speaker 1: was like, dude, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I had. Let's yeah, I was seventeen, I had no
Speaker 1: connections with radio. I begged for a job in Hot Springs,
Speaker 1: freaking Arkansas, and I was hired to clean the lobby,
Speaker 1: clean the lobby. That turned into people getting fired. I
Speaker 1: got to do weekend nights as I was going to
Speaker 1: school full time. I started doing nights as I'm working
Speaker 1: two jobs and going to school. Moved towards every single job,
Speaker 1: but had has been a small move to the other.
Speaker 1: I started my syndication company with my own money, and
Speaker 1: I was making fifty grand a year and was probably
Speaker 1: putting twenty two of it back into using this technology
Speaker 1: at the time that wasn't being used in that capacity,
Speaker 1: which was comrades, and someone had the balls and the
Speaker 1: nerve to tell me I was born on third base.
Speaker 1: But then, as usual, I try to always look at
Speaker 1: it from a different like Charletmagne, the guys are my
Speaker 1: best friends, and he's always like, hey, before you get
Speaker 1: angry at somebody's perspective, try to put yourself in their shoes.
Speaker 1: And so I did that, and I started to see
Speaker 1: that when someone assigns you some sort of success that
Speaker 1: was given to you, it means one you're actually successful,
Speaker 1: because I think our natural instinct is to be a
Speaker 1: hater on anybody. I mean, we just want to hate
Speaker 1: on people that we think don't deserve to be there,
Speaker 1: regardless if they've done the work or not. So natural
Speaker 1: human instinct. On the same way, you're the same way,
Speaker 1: regardless if it actually comes to fruition. We all have
Speaker 1: hater and instinct in this and we're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: should be there or not down. So, first of all,
Speaker 1: after realize that that's coming from that direction, and then
Speaker 1: second of all, I can see very much so how
Speaker 1: it looks like I was just planted in Nashville and
Speaker 1: I have a hundred affiliates. That's not the case. But
Speaker 1: we've been very vocal about the successes of the show.
Speaker 1: I mean I started. I think I had thirty affiliates
Speaker 1: when we started, and that was pretty much what I
Speaker 1: had a pop whenever I switched over. But again, all
Speaker 1: the failures, we didn't ye all the failures. We didn't scream, hey,
Speaker 1: look at all these stations that dropped the show, or
Speaker 1: the places that we've had ratings trouble or look at
Speaker 1: We said, hey, look at all the successes. And that
Speaker 1: wasn't my Ted talks about too, is like everybody that's
Speaker 1: sup we're successful has felt so many more times than
Speaker 1: you would ever know, because the successes are what everyone sees.
Speaker 1: There are the one there's the things that have screamed.
Speaker 1: So you know, he said that, and I was very
Speaker 1: irritated about the article until I took my friends advice.
Speaker 1: It was like, look at it from his perspective, and
Speaker 1: so I do that now. In that one instance, I
Speaker 1: remember it like vividly of being so irritated by it.
Speaker 1: But I've also grown as a person because of it,
Speaker 1: and I failed a lot. I gotta find a million
Speaker 1: dollars by the sec so, and the company kept me,
Speaker 1: you know, and that wasn't mentioned There's It was the
Speaker 1: most difficult eighteen months when I moved to Nashville. We sucked.
Speaker 1: The show did not fit, the format, did not embrace us.
Speaker 1: The artists were scared of us, the listeners didn't want
Speaker 1: any part of it because we were replacing local morning
Speaker 1: shows in twenty five cities like it was miserable for
Speaker 1: eighteen months, and for us to shift an audience even
Speaker 1: give us a chance, I don't know many people that
Speaker 1: could have taken that beating unless they were You used
Speaker 1: to take a beating, and I'm used to take a beating, well,
Speaker 1: you know, to to like circle back around. One of
Speaker 1: this is why I was so nervous to interview you,
Speaker 1: was because we have very similar backgrounds. I started same thing,
Speaker 1: small market. I walked in and said, hey, I'll clean
Speaker 1: the floors. Whatever you want, I'll do that, and then
Speaker 1: they ended up letting me run aboard, and then somebody
Speaker 1: got sick, and then I became a DJ. Same thing,
Speaker 1: put my way through college working on the air. Except
Speaker 1: for your first contract was a little more than mine.
Speaker 1: I was making fourteen grand a year when I started
Speaker 1: doing some time. To be fair, I was, I didn't
Speaker 1: have a contract until I was in my until I
Speaker 1: was like twenty two. So I think we both worked
Speaker 1: in my way for a long time before we got
Speaker 1: any sort of documentation that we just did on the radio.
Speaker 1: That's right, And you know, just that whole idea of
Speaker 1: working from market to market to market. And one thing
Speaker 1: I read about you that I didn't know other people
Speaker 1: did was I used to pay all my bills way
Speaker 1: ahead of time because I was I'm still like this.
Speaker 1: I still think this is my last job and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna have any money and I'm gonna be poor again.
Speaker 1: Does that still run through your head at all? I
Speaker 1: know I've read in Forbes that that you did that
Speaker 1: you paid all your bills ahead of time too. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't expect this to last much longer ever,
Speaker 1: And so I know, well, listen, you can't. It's like
Speaker 1: there's a difference in a poor person with money and
Speaker 1: a rich person. And I feel like, regardless of if
Speaker 1: I have no money or have money, I'll be a
Speaker 1: poor person either with money or without. And it's just
Speaker 1: how we're wired. Like I grew up and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at being poor because that's what I
Speaker 1: had to do forever. I'm I'm a good survivor, and
Speaker 1: I I've survived everywhere I've been. I haven't. I don't
Speaker 1: thrive till way later. I've survived everywhere I've been. I
Speaker 1: wish that it was just easy, just one thing. I
Speaker 1: wish one would be easy, but I take on tasks
Speaker 1: that are often bigger than me. So I survived through
Speaker 1: the early part, and then right about the time when
Speaker 1: it starts to get good, I go, h what if
Speaker 1: I can try this? And so I kind of set
Speaker 1: myself up for all this punishment. But you know that's
Speaker 1: how we're wired. The we're the same. You grow up away,
Speaker 1: you can change. You can take me out of Arkansas,
Speaker 1: but you can't take the Arkansas to me. So you
Speaker 1: know that that's just how it is, you know. I
Speaker 1: you said that, you know you wish that, you know
Speaker 1: you could have things easier, But I don't think so.
Speaker 1: And my wife pointed that out to me the other
Speaker 1: day because I was I was just I was sitting
Speaker 1: I was just saying how I wish I could enjoy downtime,
Speaker 1: and I'm really just not good with it. I I
Speaker 1: always feel like I'm not doing enough, that there's something
Speaker 1: I should be doing instead of watching gold Rush on
Speaker 1: on Discovery Channel. So I mean, do you think you
Speaker 1: really would like it if it was easier? Do you
Speaker 1: you thrive off of this? Well? I would at this point,
Speaker 1: I would like for something to be easy. I would
Speaker 1: like to get So do you how many freaking TV
Speaker 1: pilots that have been green lit that haven't picked up
Speaker 1: that I've done? I mean on a major level, four
Speaker 1: or five for studios and major money on a pilot
Speaker 1: and either it hasn't been picked up, or it gets
Speaker 1: picked up and something falls through, or the leadership changers
Speaker 1: at the network like at this especially with TV like
Speaker 1: that has been the the biggest thing to conquer for
Speaker 1: me is because I've had networks to commit for a
Speaker 1: year at a time and on big projects, and something
Speaker 1: has happened every single time. I think I'm over five
Speaker 1: on pilots. I've done one for three of the major
Speaker 1: four networks and then one for c MT, two for CMT,
Speaker 1: and something has happened every time. So especially I have
Speaker 1: to look at, well, what's the common denominator? It's me?
Speaker 1: So how can I change what is sucking? In all
Speaker 1: of these. So uh, I would like for something. But again,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm the one that's affecting at all because
Speaker 1: I can't get it to work. I like for one
Speaker 1: of those to work. At my point, it's one of them,
Speaker 1: I say, just one of them to work. So I
Speaker 1: I guess if it came too easy, I would probably go, well,
Speaker 1: is this is really even worth it? There's probably that
Speaker 1: backhand mentality of if it came easy. It's like Gratcha
Speaker 1: Warks used to say, I don't want to be a
Speaker 1: member of any club that would have me. So I
Speaker 1: wonder if it came easy, if I would go like,
Speaker 1: wait that was too easy? Is this even worth being here?
Speaker 1: Or is this for real? So maybe it's some sick, twisted,
Speaker 1: you know we need to be punished mentality that we
Speaker 1: must have. But I would like to get one of
Speaker 1: these stupid TV shows to work, and mark my word,
Speaker 1: I got two right now. They're in the work too.
Speaker 1: If they both fail, I'm done, I'm out no more TV.
Speaker 1: I quit. Well, So I feel about about about this
Speaker 1: podcast right now. Or we're about six seven episodes in
Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting here going God, when is this
Speaker 1: going to catch on, you know what, never forever. And
Speaker 1: it took me fifty five episodes of the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1: I mean, for I don't even gets sider a podcast
Speaker 1: real in my mind less has a hundred episodes. Now,
Speaker 1: what sucks about my podcast is during hour long, So
Speaker 1: that's a lot of material. Because a podcast, to me,
Speaker 1: it's about commitment to consistency. But it's not just about
Speaker 1: doing dynamic shows every single time, like you needed to
Speaker 1: tell people what they're gonna get and when they're gonna
Speaker 1: get it, and then do it. And that's been my
Speaker 1: story for every single thing I've ever done, but especially
Speaker 1: in podcasting. Everybody does three podcasts of four podcasts and
Speaker 1: players out that's every That's pretty much everyone. Everybody had one.
Speaker 1: We've done one here, very inconsistent. But to do something
Speaker 1: consistent is the hardest thing. To show up on time
Speaker 1: all the time is the one thing that successful people
Speaker 1: always have in common. So I treat my podcast the
Speaker 1: same way. It's be consistent. And so we'd around a
Speaker 1: hundred right now, we're we're getting close to a hundred,
Speaker 1: and so we're about to be a real thing. In
Speaker 1: my mind, when we hit a hundred, that's a real podcast.
Speaker 1: But until podcast fifty five and fifty seven and we're
Speaker 1: just talking about over fifty hours of content, din't nobody
Speaker 1: really listen. Nobody cared that much. But once they did
Speaker 1: and it started organically being shared, it was like boom.
Speaker 1: But it took a long time, a lot of patients
Speaker 1: and just showing up doing it over and over again.
Speaker 1: I think that anybody that's gonna be on your podcast
Speaker 1: network should listen to that and know that they've got
Speaker 1: somebody supporting them, because in our business it feels like
Speaker 1: hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up with a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. So I think, you know, that's good
Speaker 1: and refreshing to hear, because it doesn't work like that
Speaker 1: in podcasting, just like you said, it doesn't work like
Speaker 1: that really in anything. And then when you do see it,
Speaker 1: you go, oh, well, they had it easy. But then
Speaker 1: you realize there were about seven other layers before that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just all smoke in mirrors. Even with again,
Speaker 1: someone looking at my radio shows going wow, I look
Speaker 1: at this guy, he was good. I was giving anything. Man.
Speaker 1: I had to build my own syndication company with my
Speaker 1: own money and then go I would like to sell
Speaker 1: all of it and risk everything to change format. And
Speaker 1: if you just look at it from afar ago, this
Speaker 1: guy was given everything. You weren't give anything. I wasn't
Speaker 1: given anything. But again then I have to go and
Speaker 1: look at myself and go, who do I do that too?
Speaker 1: Because I know for sure if people are doing that
Speaker 1: to me, I'm looking at somebody else going now, they
Speaker 1: were just given that. So it makes me look at
Speaker 1: myself in the mirror and go, stop doing that, you
Speaker 1: big douche And so it's been a big reflector for
Speaker 1: me to be able to go, don't be a douchebag,
Speaker 1: and people like there being a douchebag to you, and
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's troubling, it's awesome, it's I tell
Speaker 1: the people that are coming on the network, do not
Speaker 1: expect for ten thousand, seventy thousand, or one million people
Speaker 1: to hear this for the first twenty hours that you're
Speaker 1: putting into it, because this is a land of foundation
Speaker 1: right now, and you're not gonna be good at it
Speaker 1: first either. You're actually gonna be quite bad. And if
Speaker 1: you can't do ten shows and go back and listen
Speaker 1: to a show ten shows ago and go man, I
Speaker 1: wasn't good, then you're not getting better fast enough. You
Speaker 1: should be able to be embarrassed of what you did
Speaker 1: ten shows ago because you've moved so far ahead. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this for all my talent here who
Speaker 1: I'm I'm starting a podcast with because they're we're getting
Speaker 1: a lot of that. Uh, I've done twenty I'm not.
Speaker 1: You know they either it stops being every week and
Speaker 1: then you know, it's it's just a keeping people consistent.
Speaker 1: It's it's really hard. It's it's a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. They don't want to do it,
Speaker 1: and they won't do it eventually. But again, I have
Speaker 1: a show that five million people listened to a week
Speaker 1: and I did I didn't done over fifty and nobody
Speaker 1: was listening. So that's the nature of the podcast, Like
Speaker 1: you're you're growing them one at a time. You're growing
Speaker 1: these people that listen one at a time. And but
Speaker 1: that the awesome this is if they're listening to your podcast,
Speaker 1: they are passionate about what they're listening to. So if
Speaker 1: you can get them, you have them, just continue to
Speaker 1: feed them. It's like a straight puppy. People are like
Speaker 1: I'm a straight puppy. I wander around looking for food
Speaker 1: tobody to feed me. And when I find that door
Speaker 1: that's open or they're giving me food, I go back
Speaker 1: to that door because they just fed me. And we're
Speaker 1: all straight puppies looking for something to entertain us in
Speaker 1: this content driven world where they're a thousand different things
Speaker 1: coming at us in all different directions. We're all straight puppies.
Speaker 1: Just see the stilly puppy, because they're not. They're walking around.
Speaker 1: You gotta find them and keep feeding them, all right,
Speaker 1: straight poppy. Before we get out of here, I wanted
Speaker 1: to I do a very radio a segment at the
Speaker 1: end here called three Killer Questions. I'm gonna ask your
Speaker 1: three questions and I want to see what your sponsees
Speaker 1: in the first one, Bobby Bones, is if there's anyone
Speaker 1: in history living dead that you can hear do a podcast?
Speaker 1: Who would you like to hear anyone in history do
Speaker 1: a podcast? And I get to pick the subject. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is all you. You're the producer. Whatever you want,
Speaker 1: more more difficult than than it probably should be. I
Speaker 1: could just give an answer. I guess um, you know, man,
Speaker 1: when I look at like I would love to hear
Speaker 1: Andy Kaufman really talk as a human being and not
Speaker 1: as one of the characters that he may or may
Speaker 1: not have been playing. Like I would love to hear
Speaker 1: a Andy Kaufman talks as Andy Kaufman podcast. And he
Speaker 1: told me about all of the everything behind all of
Speaker 1: the bits that he did, all of these ideas and
Speaker 1: the stunt, and that's what I was. Andy kaufment to
Speaker 1: me is one of the more revolutionary comedic figures, because man,
Speaker 1: he would take a joke and just beat it to
Speaker 1: death where it wasn't funny, and then keep beating it
Speaker 1: till it became funny again. And they'll be able to
Speaker 1: sit in that spot right where it's like, oh, people
Speaker 1: don't like it, and just sit and know that they're
Speaker 1: gonna come back around or they're not. That to me
Speaker 1: is vulnerable and brilliant, and that's what I would want.
Speaker 1: Did you watch the Jim Carey documentaries on Netflix right
Speaker 1: now about the win Man on the Moon? Yes? I
Speaker 1: watched it. Loved it. I mean, I I just feel
Speaker 1: like those are kindred spirits man for me, Like I'm
Speaker 1: nuts too. I just watched it Saturday, and I meant
Speaker 1: to watch like I was gonna watch a little bit
Speaker 1: of it and then go to bed, and I stayed
Speaker 1: up till one in the morning. It was so fascinating,
Speaker 1: such a such a good watch. It's called Jim and
Speaker 1: Andy and I'm gonna tell you if I worked in
Speaker 1: that Man on the Moon set with Jim, say, is
Speaker 1: all that crap? I don't want nuts to like I've
Speaker 1: been so pissed at him, but I mean, like I
Speaker 1: get I I don't understand why he's like he is,
Speaker 1: but I get feeling different than everybody. And that's when
Speaker 1: I watched that. The document is fascinating anyway, because I
Speaker 1: love any comman. I love Man on the Moon, and
Speaker 1: I like Jim Carrey because of he just lowers his
Speaker 1: head and goes into things, and so I admire anyone
Speaker 1: that can do that. But the documentary is fantastic, and
Speaker 1: I'll watched another one on Hulu. It was called Too
Speaker 1: Funny to Fail with Danna Carvey and uh where it was.
Speaker 1: It's about that show and how Steve Carrell was on
Speaker 1: it and Stephen Colbert was on it, and you know,
Speaker 1: this show had everybody that ended up being fantastic, but
Speaker 1: it bombed and it's a it's a really great documentary too.
Speaker 1: If we love comedy, man, we're we are in the
Speaker 1: glory days of of of network content as far as
Speaker 1: with Netflix and Hulu. But I just real quick on
Speaker 1: the sign up with that Jim Carrey you know he
Speaker 1: did that, you know working in radio. We all got
Speaker 1: that clip when he was being uh at fashion can
Speaker 1: and he was saying, oh, none of this is real
Speaker 1: and and people were like, oh, Jim Carrey has gone crazy. Well,
Speaker 1: I haven't watched that documentary. I'm like, no, now, he's right,
Speaker 1: none of this is real. And I really I feel
Speaker 1: like I understand Jim Carrey a lot more from watching
Speaker 1: that documentary. Yeah. Is he's so right that he's crazy?
Speaker 1: That's the question. Like it because we found that the
Speaker 1: craziest people throughout history were the ones that we're We're
Speaker 1: right a lot of times. I mean, just think about
Speaker 1: I mean Galileo. I mean we can go to someone
Speaker 1: who's just we go, oh, yes, of course, great astronomer
Speaker 1: who the dude was told he was absolutely nuts, And
Speaker 1: so throughout times it's taken to people with the really
Speaker 1: crazy ideas. Two, what was the Bill Gates do with
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs? Let's say it takes someone just crazy and
Speaker 1: so crazy to think they can change the world to
Speaker 1: actually change the world, and so Jim Carrey is nuts,
Speaker 1: but those are the people that actually had at making
Speaker 1: things happen, and people who are so nuts that they
Speaker 1: believe in themselves. So yeah, now we're on a whole
Speaker 1: different thing where we could spend an hour on it.
Speaker 1: But yes, question number two, what was the one piece
Speaker 1: of technology you know in your life that you you
Speaker 1: got and realized this is going to change my life?
Speaker 1: I mean the easy answers radio, But I'm gonna not
Speaker 1: say radio. I'm gonna say, ah, probably whenever, my whenever
Speaker 1: I could take my radio show and put it over
Speaker 1: the internet. And so I guess it would be whenever,
Speaker 1: because we started streaming our show and making it a
Speaker 1: priority before it was fashionable only because not because I
Speaker 1: was some suits there, but only because I was young
Speaker 1: and in radio, and that gave me a huge advantage
Speaker 1: because I was actually living the life of other twenty
Speaker 1: three year olds and I wasn't fifty having to adapt,
Speaker 1: which I always hope that i'm not, because I mean
Speaker 1: now in my thirties, and I'm hoping I'm not having
Speaker 1: to adapt to something and it's not quite fitting, and
Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to lose your your feet
Speaker 1: into the ground. But I would say the media Player
Speaker 1: was a huge deal to me because people could hear
Speaker 1: my show on the internet and we made it a
Speaker 1: huge priority. And like two thousand and four, whenever, in
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, whenever, it really wasn't shows weren't
Speaker 1: doing that. So I'm gonna say the media player and
Speaker 1: what was the last podcast you binged? Um that I so,
Speaker 1: I don't I won't beinge a podcast. I will listen
Speaker 1: to them episode only that's even a word, because I
Speaker 1: have something I like. Um, I like the the the
Speaker 1: NPR where they tell you how things came about. I
Speaker 1: just listen to the one one with Southwest Carolines or
Speaker 1: they tell you how how things are created. I listen
Speaker 1: to the one UM where they talked about al Alba
Speaker 1: and the chipmunks. But that's a good I know MPR
Speaker 1: is like a big rival of ours, I guess, but whatever, um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's probably the one that when people
Speaker 1: would go, hey, what podcast should I listen to? That's
Speaker 1: when I send them to because you don't have to
Speaker 1: listen to all of them. You can scroll them and
Speaker 1: you don't have to feel like you have to binge.
Speaker 1: You can find something to interest you, just like my
Speaker 1: Bobby cast. Like you can find a writer and artist
Speaker 1: and interests you and listen to it and you don't
Speaker 1: have to listen to the next episode or one seven away.
Speaker 1: You can find someone else that interests you. And so, um,
Speaker 1: how that that's probably the one that I listened to latest, Um,
Speaker 1: I listen. I listened to Ricky Gervais. His um, Ricky
Speaker 1: gervaisis uh deadly serious or everyone on serious? Because I
Speaker 1: love Ricky Gervais, like Ricky Gerbay's, Adam Krola and Chris
Speaker 1: Rock can me the funniest living individuals. And so I
Speaker 1: listened to that one. And again I have all the
Speaker 1: technology and sometimes the company gets mad at me if
Speaker 1: you're talking about other things, but then I'm just ignorant
Speaker 1: if I'm not talking about other things like I those
Speaker 1: are the probably too I listened to last. And this
Speaker 1: is a bonus question that I asked. That is a
Speaker 1: stupid question. But if you were a sandwich personified, not
Speaker 1: not your favorite sandwich, but if there was a Bobby
Speaker 1: Bones sandwich that the encompassed you, what would it be?
Speaker 1: It would probably a freeing white bread bologney sandwich was
Speaker 1: just mustard because there's not a lot to it, but
Speaker 1: they are very effective, and I think that there's not
Speaker 1: a lot to me. I'm not the smartest, I'm not
Speaker 1: the funniest, I'm not to anything nest, but just give
Speaker 1: me a bed of time and I'll make it work.
Speaker 1: And so I'm a freaking bologna sandwich, hard working, I'll
Speaker 1: fail you up. Not a lot of fanishiness to it,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna show up every day. So probably a
Speaker 1: blondie sandwich. That's great, Bobby, Uh, this is great. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate you spending some time with me. Hey, thanks
Speaker 1: for thanks for having me and uh, good luck with everyone.
Speaker 1: And you know you're you're doing You're doing God's work,
Speaker 1: my friend. All right. For those of you who are
Speaker 1: listening to the podcast for the first time, this is
Speaker 1: the part of the show where my producer Z comes
Speaker 1: in and we talked about some podcasts that you should
Speaker 1: be listening to and and Z goes out and finds
Speaker 1: him and and and tells me about them. But first
Speaker 1: I have to add aske, do you think Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I listened back to the interview. I'll just put the
Speaker 1: cards on the table. We listened to, you know, we
Speaker 1: do the we do the interview, and then we do
Speaker 1: this part a little bit later on. I loved that
Speaker 1: interview with Bobby. Yeah, I feel like he just had
Speaker 1: so much good advice and he's such an open book
Speaker 1: and so willing to say anything or everything. He doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like he needs to hold back, and I thought
Speaker 1: that makes for a good interview. I'm always nervous when
Speaker 1: there's somebody I want to tell, like like, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm just like you and I have so much
Speaker 1: in common, and I just it's just like and I
Speaker 1: listened back and I'm like, oh god, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: gushy and stuff. But I didn't touch it people from you,
Speaker 1: So I hope you all liked it. Today we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about some podcasts based on radio shows. So Bobby
Speaker 1: was saying that, you know, and this is a big
Speaker 1: thing that I believe that if you're doing a radio
Speaker 1: show and you're just doing your radio show, you're doing
Speaker 1: yourself a disservice. You should be doing a podcast as well.
Speaker 1: And these are podcast that come out of radio shows.
Speaker 1: So who do you have for us? Well, the first
Speaker 1: one is out of the Nashville Podcast Network, which is
Speaker 1: Bobby's Network, and it is Whiskey Riff Raff and it's
Speaker 1: just two guys named Stephen West and they just are
Speaker 1: super unfiltered, uncensored about different topics about country music and
Speaker 1: what it's like living in Nashville. And it's not something
Speaker 1: I can necessarily relate to because I don't live there,
Speaker 1: but just listening to them is and the topics they
Speaker 1: range cover everything else and they're just funny guys. All
Speaker 1: right's check it out. There's a kid in Ohio at
Speaker 1: Ohio State that's using my photos to act like me
Speaker 1: under under the name Jack I'm Bumble. And then and
Speaker 1: this girl was like, hey, that's whiskey riff type of
Speaker 1: stuff and he's like, oh, I'm not sure what it is.
Speaker 1: It's just my brother's hat I borrowed. And she's like, no,
Speaker 1: that's not you. And she sent me like the conversation
Speaker 1: and reported him and I was like, tell her, tell me,
Speaker 1: I got the FBI on it. It's a freak amount post.
Speaker 1: It just really it's really bizarre. Whiskey Riff Raff. I
Speaker 1: like the name too. It could be the name of
Speaker 1: my family reunions in West Virginia. Actually, we prefer blue
Speaker 1: stuff and Hillbillies. Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm that's my people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about You don't want to know anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: holler folks. All right, So I know the next two.
Speaker 1: If you're a Bobby fan, you probably don't know about
Speaker 1: these shows, and these might not even be something that
Speaker 1: you would listen to, but I think it's I listened
Speaker 1: to everything, so I like to hear about shows from
Speaker 1: all kinds of genres. So let's start with the first one.
Speaker 1: So the first one is Elvis Durant presents the Fifteen
Speaker 1: Minute Morning Show. And Elvis Durant is obviously a legend
Speaker 1: and I love listening to his on demand podcast after
Speaker 1: on his show, but this was one that I found
Speaker 1: and it's everything they don't get to on the radio
Speaker 1: show that they put into a podcast. And the team
Speaker 1: is just so funny, like you know that they get
Speaker 1: along and they all have good banter, and they're really
Speaker 1: witty and quick, and I just like listen to them
Speaker 1: and short, so it's just like a quick fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: It's always fifteen minutes and it's easy. All right, let's
Speaker 1: check it out. But it's true. I thought I thought
Speaker 1: I had expensive stools. I guess I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear about your stools. But are they made
Speaker 1: by Nerve? Oh my god, Okay, get this. The chair
Speaker 1: is made of the Nerve material. Elvis Duran, I wish that.
Speaker 1: I I wish I had about a hundreds of the
Speaker 1: cloud he has in in this company of My Heart Radio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's here. Everybody loves him. Oh my god, Elvis, Elvis, Elvis, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby.
Speaker 1: You just wanted to be Maddie, Mattie, Maddie. I don't
Speaker 1: even want that. I would just like it to be
Speaker 1: like like that. I whisper, beay soon, soon, it'll happen.
Speaker 1: And our last one is actually from my Heart Media,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and it is with Big Vaughan from Camel.
Speaker 1: He has a podcast called The v Entourage and he
Speaker 1: describes it as your daily dose of dumb ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just I wish people could be in the studio
Speaker 1: when he's recording it, because I've been in there a
Speaker 1: few times and we'll just be talking about something. He'll
Speaker 1: be like, hey, let's put it on the podcast and
Speaker 1: the topics, I mean, they can get Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: not for the faint of heart. If it is not,
Speaker 1: it's not safe for work. The intro says it don't
Speaker 1: say work or anywhere somebody else might listen. Um, so
Speaker 1: hopefully you picked out a clip that's not so so bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I tried my best company that you have
Speaker 1: it a world fromier. You only get right here in
Speaker 1: the venturage, the brand new det hose, but it cast
Speaker 1: me on side girl trash. But nowadays I can't just
Speaker 1: really say that because next thing, you know, your mother
Speaker 1: would be so stupid that people just start singing it
Speaker 1: and next thing you know, yad and made her a millionaire.
Speaker 1: Now full disclosure. When I got to my Heart Radio
Speaker 1: San Francisco, I met Big Vaughan and I immediately said,
Speaker 1: you have to do a podcast. And he was the
Speaker 1: first podcast I launched when I got here. He's a
Speaker 1: walking podcast. Yeah, he always has something interesting to say.
Speaker 1: I mean he is. Yeah, he is just a podcast.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope people check that out. It's it's
Speaker 1: definitely one of my favorite podcasts. All right, good job
Speaker 1: and welcome if you're a new listener, we really appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming in and checking out the show. Go back
Speaker 1: and listen to some past episodes. We had uh Phoebe
Speaker 1: judge on from Criminal which is she That's one of
Speaker 1: my favorites. Um the first episode with Seth Lynn from
Speaker 1: This American Life, the folks from Mission to Zix. Now,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. There's all kinds of footballers, all magical.
Speaker 1: Coming up in the new year, we'll have a new
Speaker 1: season featuring comedian Felipe. I didn't interview with him, and
Speaker 1: we went on for an hour and then we we
Speaker 1: stopped and then we started talking again and we got
Speaker 1: another twenty minutes. So I might have split that one up.
Speaker 1: But I had a great time with him. But if
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