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Speaker 1: The volume, Hi everybody, and welcome in my guy, John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff from the volume former NFL Scout three and out.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna stop by for a good thirty minutes. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be joining John. John's going to be joining

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Speaker 1: me Sunday nights during the football season. It'll be out

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Speaker 1: Sunday night on YouTube Monday morning on our podcast. So

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for that. A few minutes before we

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Speaker 1: start Hall of Fame game tonight, Zach Wilson, not Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: will get a play for the Jets. I kind of

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Speaker 1: feel like first round quarterback picks fall into three categories.

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Speaker 1: The first is the most ideal. You got yourself a

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Speaker 1: star Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: And in most cases you can ident even if they're

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. So that's ideal. We know who

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Speaker 1: those guys are. Trevor Lawrence bad first year, you knew

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Speaker 1: he was a star. The second one is he's not

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Speaker 1: going to be a franchise quarterback for us, but can

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Speaker 1: we salvage the first round pick? Show him off. The

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Speaker 1: third is we got to miss. So I think Trey

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Speaker 1: don't think Trey Lance will ever be the starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: the starting quarterback answer for the Jets. I think Aaron's

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Speaker 1: around for two or three years. I think they're both

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Speaker 1: in the salvage stage and the showoff stage. If I

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Speaker 1: was the Niners, I would play Trey Lance a ton

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, and I would set him up for success.

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Speaker 1: I'd use a couple of starting offensive linemen, use some

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Speaker 1: get a fourth round pick. I've been watching this league forever,

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Speaker 1: so of you, there's always seven teams, six teams, eight

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Speaker 1: teams at the bottom that by the trade deadline can

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Speaker 1: use a quarterback, especially a young one. I think Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson's in the same spot. He'll never be the franchise quarterback, size, style,

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Speaker 1: lack of self awareness. He's got what Lance doesn't, a

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Speaker 1: more mature guy. So if I was the Jets, I

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Speaker 1: would play Zach Wilson every available snap. I think Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson has the talent in the arm. It fooled Joe

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Speaker 1: especially a team at the trade deadline. Maybe that's off

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Speaker 1: to like a three and three start, and they're looking

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Speaker 1: at it thinking, listen, the GM and the coach may

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Speaker 1: I think it's very possible you could move Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: Tray's a good guy, quick learner, big body, moves well.

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Speaker 1: Salva Jim So. I think for Trey Lance and Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I thought last year's biggest story in the preseason at

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Speaker 1: be honest. If you've quarterback with Kyle Shanahan, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people will say, man, you bring all that intellectual

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Speaker 1: offensive capital to our franchise. You could sell that. You

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Speaker 1: could sell that to a coach. All right, let's bring

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Speaker 2: Colin Pads are a poppin football. It's kind of unofficially

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Speaker 2: here preseason games. But week one we're almost a month

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Speaker 2: away from that. That Thursday Night doozy of Dan Campbell

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't want to be Dan Campbell. Andy's been

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Speaker 1: there was something interesting so Andy all off season has

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Speaker 1: the Mannings, the Mahomes. You just keep throwing layers of

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Speaker 2: I would say this, Colin, just because you pay a

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Speaker 2: once Dak got that forty million dollars a year contract

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Speaker 2: didn't change his limitations. I would though the last two years,

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys have lost right in two years ago in

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Speaker 2: each other. It was the most physical game of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: But they lost because Dak did what Kyle Shanahan never

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Speaker 2: had the stat when Zeke before he fell off a cliff,

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Speaker 2: I would say that their defensive coordinator has turned in

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Speaker 2: they can play a game that most teams can't because

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Speaker 2: don't turn the ball over like I think, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to pick the Cowboys to win the division, and not

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Speaker 2: because I think Dak Prescott is better than Jalen. I

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Speaker 2: just think they have like they kind of know who

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Speaker 2: With the Cowboys, they're always kind of fighting one side

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Speaker 2: to me, it just comes down to Dak Prescott and

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Speaker 2: not turning the ball over, because if he doesn't turn

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a number, I don't have it in front

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Speaker 1: of me. With Dak Prescott, he wins almost eighty percent

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Speaker 1: he has just one or more he wins like thirty

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Speaker 1: does so many things. Well, Dak's not talented enough to

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Speaker 1: Bowls with pick sixes. Right man. The Mannings have had

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Speaker 2: years ago when the Warriors, I think they won fifteen games.

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Speaker 2: down in LA. You're close to the Rams. Cooper Cup

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Speaker 2: Their players are a little older now, Stafford with the elbow.

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Speaker 2: of goes. We saw in Roethlisberger the elbow never the same.

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Speaker 2: So Stafford's Cooper Cup now injured last year, injured again.

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Speaker 2: Now Aaron Donald, all time great player, but he can

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Speaker 2: I don't see why they think about the division. We

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Speaker 1: good source, So did Jason McIntyre that we heard the

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Speaker 1: Rams tried to restructure the Matt Stafford contact contract. I

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Speaker 1: taking a shot at me. Two days later, Matt Stafford announces, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we tried to restructure my deal in the off season.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are trying to fool us. They had discussions,

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Speaker 1: they wanted to restructure the deal, they couldn't and had

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Speaker 1: to move off people they like Matt. But Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 1: They know how good this draft is. They look three

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Speaker 2: that they can never get it and that limits their

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Speaker 2: potential in the sport because the game is so complex

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Speaker 2: and as the seat, like the preseason now is a joke, right,

427
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Speaker 2: but once the season comes in, you're putting in a

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Speaker 2: new game plan every single week.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. This is a year John where I think

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Speaker 1: some of the more interesting storylines are not on star quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: They're on potential busts. Justin Fields, Jordan Love. I'm totally

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Speaker 1: fascinated with both now. I think Fields is so brilliantly athletic.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make it they've given him. I think Mooney's

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Speaker 1: a really good two. DJ moral Ie Claypool in consistent three.

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Speaker 1: Cole Komet's a nice tight end. Robert Tanyan old line's

436
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Speaker 1: not terrible. I think they found a left tackle a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago in the draft. So he is

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Speaker 1: so brilliantly athletic. You know. It's like when you were

439
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Speaker 1: watching Steve Young when he was young. You were like, Okay,

440
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Speaker 1: he's not great in the pocket yet, but this shit's

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Speaker 1: gonna work. He's just too athletic. Cam was like that,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna work to some degree. So Justin's gonna work

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Speaker 1: to some degree. But I have a very good source,

444
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Speaker 1: very good in Green Bay, who says three years they

445
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Speaker 1: don't see any juice with Jordan Love, and it's weird.

446
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Speaker 1: Usually I'm so geeked up to watch the great quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated with Fields, I'm fascinated with Sam Darnold in

448
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Speaker 1: San Francisco. I can't wait to watch Jordan Love play.

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Speaker 1: My gut is It's like they always say, a man

450
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Speaker 1: can tell in eight minutes if she's right for him,

451
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Speaker 1: and it may take her eight hours or whatever it is. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: three years in the building. I don't have a piece

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Speaker 1: of video on Jordan Love. I mean, you were hearing

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow greatness week three in camp and Cincinnati. My

455
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Speaker 1: guess is here Lufleur will control him, but there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be no there there with Jordan Love, it's just gonna

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Speaker 1: be a guy. That's my take.

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Speaker 2: I think we saw this when when Brady left. Whenever

459
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Speaker 2: there is a guy that you ultimately chose to get

460
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Speaker 2: rid of and that guy goes on to have success.

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Speaker 2: I think Rogers is gonna have a fantastic season. I

462
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Speaker 2: don't know if you've watched some of his press conferences.

463
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Speaker 2: He feels like he's in the best mental space in

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Speaker 2: a long long time. I mean, he feels really good.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to be really good. And that element,

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Speaker 2: even if it's we were ready to move on and

467
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Speaker 2: they were right like it was time for a divorce,

468
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Speaker 2: there is you're still the guy replacing him, right. You

469
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Speaker 2: don't want to be the guy replacing Nick Saban good luck, right,

470
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Speaker 2: you want to be the guy that replaces that guy.

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Speaker 2: And I just think Jordan Love, I think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: know and you're always big on this right pretty quickly,

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Speaker 2: especially with a guy that's been in the league for

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Speaker 2: a while. I think in that first month, the pressure

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Speaker 2: on him, especially if it starts slow, will be beyond iments, right,

476
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Speaker 2: because there are so many quarterbacks now, especially if you

477
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Speaker 2: look and like CJ. Stroud just looks okay, and Bryce

478
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Speaker 2: Young it happens so fat. The league has never been

479
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Speaker 2: easier from a passing standpoint, and then when you factor in, well,

480
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Speaker 2: this guy knows the offense. He's been sitting learning from

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Speaker 2: a Hall of famer and the head coach have been

482
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Speaker 2: sitting right next to him. Yeah, I think him. I

483
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Speaker 2: find him fascinating to me fields just because anytime the

484
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Speaker 2: year starting quarterback for a GM and a coach that

485
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Speaker 2: did not draft you, like I've seen it firsthand, like

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Speaker 2: they just they will move on. It's about your guy.

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Speaker 2: It's not like that in other sports, like if I

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Speaker 2: just inherit, Barry Bonds or Lebron James, who cares? In

489
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Speaker 2: football unless you're like Aaron Rodgers. Everyone can be moved

490
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Speaker 2: really quickly in football. And I do think it got

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Speaker 2: weird last year, and a lot of it was Bill's

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Speaker 2: fault because of who he made the offensive coordinator. But

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Speaker 2: I think if Mac Jones and we already talked about

494
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Speaker 2: him like he's his best case is like Jimmy Garoppolo,

495
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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins ish Well, that means his floor's really low.

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Speaker 2: If he's just average, he could get everybody fired, right,

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Speaker 2: he could just end the the Belichick era well.

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Speaker 1: And also, if you look at Green Bay's schedule, there's

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Speaker 1: some real daunting defenses. Later you got to face the

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Speaker 1: Steelers in November like that, you don't want to open

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Speaker 1: with the Steelers the Chargers defense. The week after that,

502
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Speaker 1: you've got the Giants defense later Carolina's front. But if

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Speaker 1: you really look early for Jordan Love opens with the

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Speaker 1: Bears defense, it was awful. Falcons defense awful, Week four,

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Speaker 1: Lions defense awful, Week five, Raiders defense last year outside

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Speaker 1: of Max Crosby, awful, So those defenses maybe better. John.

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Speaker 1: You can't go from awful to great in a year.

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Speaker 1: So my takeaway is in those first five weeks, I'm

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Speaker 1: not even looking at wins. If that kid can't get

510
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Speaker 1: three hundred yards passing a couple times, whatever the scoreboard is,

511
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Speaker 1: you're gonna know in the building right like you've got

512
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Speaker 1: to make you could lose to Atlanta, but it better

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Speaker 1: be thirty twenty eight and they got the ball last.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty I don't have the number in front of me,

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Speaker 2: but I think, off the top of my head, you

516
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Speaker 2: know how they signed that because they didn't pick up

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Speaker 2: his fifth year option. They basically did like a two year,

518
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Speaker 2: eleven million dollar deal. We see these agents in the

519
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: NFL when it comes to premium positions are so cutthroat.

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Speaker 2: If you had any positive thought that this guy had

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Speaker 2: a chance to be just a player eleven million dollars

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Speaker 2: for two years at quarterback, you would just say, let's

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Speaker 2: play it out, let's see what happens. But that that,

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Speaker 2: to me is a very just kind of cya. This

525
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Speaker 2: could go really bad, and obviously for the Packers it's

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Speaker 2: an easy one. The other thing is if it's goes

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Speaker 2: poorly in terms of Jordan Love and he's not any

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Speaker 2: good and they're just bad because their quarterback plays really shitty.

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Speaker 2: They're actually pretty well equipped for a young quarterback. I

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Speaker 2: mean they got a lot of talent, a lot of

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Speaker 2: defensive pieces, a lot of good young offensive pieces. If

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Speaker 2: I was one, if I was Caleb or Drake may

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Speaker 2: like green Bay great place to play football, it matters.

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Speaker 2: They've had to start quarterbacks, they got young players, they

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Speaker 2: got a coach that knows how to coach offense. I

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Speaker 2: actually think it's I'd rather go there in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: No, it's really interesting, John, If you look at I

538
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Speaker 1: said this, the other day. So a next year's college

539
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Speaker 1: quarterback class best in a four to five year window. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: you don't have a bunch of old offensive pieces that

541
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Speaker 1: could very impatient, not want to stick around with a

542
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Speaker 1: kid Christian Watson, Dobbs Dylan the running back. They just

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Speaker 1: drafted two tight ends. They've got some youth on the

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Speaker 1: old line. They're ready for a young quarterback, right, it's

545
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Speaker 1: a young, energized group. Yeah, the quarterback's going to listen

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Speaker 1: to the same music, play with the same tech. This

547
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Speaker 1: is twenty six and under kids, So it's not you

548
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: don't got a bunch of old guys that are like,

549
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Speaker 1: who's this twenty two year old rookie? So also Lafleur

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Speaker 1: By and large a young coach who sort of favors

551
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Speaker 1: the run game. He would love to slowly roll a

552
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the advantage of sitting him three years. John

553
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Speaker 1: Is everybody knows by Thanksgiving. My dad used to say,

554
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Speaker 1: your employment will be based on rooms you don't sit in.

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Speaker 1: By Thanksgiving, Mark Murphy, Brian Gooden, Kountz, they're sitting in

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Speaker 1: a room making all these decisions privately. Three years of practice, video,

557
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Speaker 1: ten games to Thanksgiving. Everybody knows, So I like my takeaways.

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Speaker 1: That's the advantage of not playing a quarterback. You get

559
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Speaker 1: so many reps. All I need to say is about

560
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Speaker 1: eight games a live bullets. You give me eight day

561
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Speaker 1: Brian Goodin coach Mark Murphy, this is what they do

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Speaker 1: for a living. So I think Green Bay and also

563
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Speaker 1: remember this, John, this is a really good quarterback class.

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Speaker 1: Many of the bad teams Carolina Houston just drafted a quarterback, right,

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Speaker 1: So you're in a tiny window. We know Tampa's drafted

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and we know the Raiders are that's not arguable.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay could be indeed, just got a quarterback. Green

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Speaker 1: Bay could be one of like four teams that absolutely

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Speaker 1: needs a quarterback. So John, they wouldn't even if they

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Speaker 1: won five games and had the eighth pick. Harrison is

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Speaker 1: the best receiver since Moss. Somebody's taken him, right, There's

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Speaker 1: like six tackle at Penn State. It's elite off the charts.

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Speaker 1: So it's like it's not like, let's just keep moving

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Speaker 1: back Harrison. I mean, and how many teams in the

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Speaker 1: league would take Randy Moss in his prime today? So Caleb, Drake, May,

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Speaker 1: and Harrison are your first three the draft starts at four,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot and I would say that Penn

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Speaker 1: State old Lineman's probably a lock for top four. So

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Speaker 1: if you finished with a fifth mess record, or you're

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Speaker 1: five or six in the draft, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: give anything up.

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Speaker 2: You're going to get a quarterback, yeah, for sure. The

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Speaker 2: other big story, I don't know if you saw, like JK. Dobbins,

584
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Speaker 2: the running back for the Ravens, who's mad wants a contract. Obviously,

585
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Speaker 2: this Jonathan Taylor situation. I hadn't thought of this, but

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Speaker 2: I was on Gottlee's radio show and he made a

587
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Speaker 2: good point. It's clearly that phone call that was led

588
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Speaker 2: by a bunch of guys that had already been paid

589
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Speaker 2: got everyone kind of amped up, and a message went

590
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Speaker 2: out is we're all getting screwed even though everyone's talking

591
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: is making twelve to fifteen million dollars, right, and some

592
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Speaker 2: of the other guys you know, start kind of Jonathan

593
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Speaker 2: Taylor went on record, I think late April, said hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to be here. This will get figured out.

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Speaker 2: I'm not worried. He's always been known high character guy.

596
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Speaker 2: Then gets into camp and he's double mental fingers. He's

597
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: pissed off. JK. Dobbins, who played eight games, played eight games,

598
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Speaker 2: ran for five hundred yards, refusing to practice right now.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you start listening to people who are above your

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Speaker 2: pay grade with some of their ideas, and it seems

601
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Speaker 2: can put you in a bad mental spot. I don't

602
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Speaker 2: care what industry you're in, and I think if you

603
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Speaker 2: look back on that phone call, it's going to have

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Speaker 2: some negative rambo. Christian McAffrey can do whatever he wants

605
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Speaker 2: Dereck Henery, So there are other guys that.

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Speaker 1: Aren't quite on that level.

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Speaker 2: And I think when you start thinking like other people

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Speaker 2: that you shouldn't be thinking like that yet, can just

609
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Speaker 2: create some chaos. And this is not the NBA where

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Speaker 2: they're just going to capitulate to your demands. I think

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Speaker 2: these guys are realizing it really quick.

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Speaker 1: Well, the one team that's interesting is the Colts. So

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Speaker 1: there's a number that Warren Sharp puts out that quarterbacks

614
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Speaker 1: by and large have gobbled up about fifteen to twenty

615
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Speaker 1: percent of the running backed rush yards in the last decade. Well,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson could gobble up twenty five to thirty percent.

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Speaker 1: I mean people are projecting him is like Justin fields,

618
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Speaker 1: but more athletic. So yeah, yeah, So if he gobbles

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Speaker 1: up thirty percent of Jonathan Taylor's yards, he rushes for

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Speaker 1: nine hundred and fifty yards seven touchdowns. I mean, Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts is getting ten plus touchdowns, Lamar's getting a thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen getting eight hundred, and Josh Allen's a great

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Speaker 1: pocket guy. Now, so let's say Anthony Richardson only one

624
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Speaker 1: year starting in college gonna be kind of raw. Shane

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Speaker 1: Stikeen likes athletic quarterbacks, He's going to lean into running

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Speaker 1: for two years. So the Colts say to themselves, we

627
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Speaker 1: don't need an a running back. What we need is

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Speaker 1: a better corner and another receiver or tight end. Do

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Speaker 1: the Colts call the Patriots, who have a surplus of dbs,

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Speaker 1: and say, we'll give you Taylor. You don't have a

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Speaker 1: damn playmaker and your roster. You give us Stevenson, who's

632
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Speaker 1: a b running back, and your two or three corner.

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Speaker 1: So I could see Indy saying, listen, we don't We're

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Speaker 1: gonna gonna pick maybe yeah, yeah, give us a fifth round,

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Speaker 1: pick your three corner and your be back. We'll give

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Speaker 1: you Taylor. New England has no playmakers. John mac jones

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Speaker 1: is not a playmaker, Devonte Parker's not Hunter, Henry's not. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: New England can only score with eleven play drives, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's it. Jujus a slot wide receiver. So Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 1: they have no cleanup hitter. Shit, they don't have a

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Speaker 1: three hitter. They don't have anybody in the three hole.

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Speaker 1: So to me, if I'm the Colts, I'd call New

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Speaker 1: England and say give us your number two or three

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Speaker 1: corner a pick and we'll give you our be back.

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Speaker 1: And it sounds, you know, like ooh, Belichick wouldn't get worked.

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Speaker 1: Belichick's trying to keep his job in a division where

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Speaker 1: they can't stop Josh Allen, they won't stop Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: and Mike McDaniel and Tua have had Belichick's number. They

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Speaker 1: got to go get a playmaker, and nobody's given up

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Speaker 1: a star receiver. The only position in the league where

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Speaker 1: you can have a playmaker star and they'll give it

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Speaker 1: to you is running back. I would go get I

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Speaker 1: would get Jonathan Taylor tomorrow if I was New England.

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Speaker 1: The one thing they have and they always have an

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Speaker 1: air Belichick they always have an extra corner, they always

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Speaker 1: have an extra safety. Builds the best dB coach in

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Speaker 1: league history.

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Speaker 2: This gets back to the owner situation too, of just

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Speaker 2: they create a little chaos when they talk, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of these owners now know that that nothing good

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Speaker 2: comes out of it. And Jerry and Ursay, especially Ursay,

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Speaker 2: he's pretty mouthy, you know, and it's but you got

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Speaker 2: to come. You can't let your you know, your rookie

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Speaker 2: coach and your rookie raw quarterback. You don't want them

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Speaker 2: in chaos, right, You got to figure out this situation.

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Speaker 2: You got to figure out fast.

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Speaker 1: So Week one surprise. So here's my Week one upset

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Jaguars are heavy favorites and they have struggled

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Speaker 1: through the years against the Colts, and they're coming in

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Speaker 1: like a big, big four point favorite, five point okay,

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Speaker 1: So they go indoors. They have no idea what they're

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Speaker 1: getting from Anthony Richardson. They have no idea what they're

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Speaker 1: getting with Shane Steichen. But we know Steichen did this

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Speaker 1: immediately with Justin Fields. He was ready to play. So

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Speaker 1: you've got a Colts team that won't be great. But

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Speaker 1: bad teams don't know they're bad until about week five.

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Speaker 1: You've got a new coach, new system that works quickly

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Speaker 1: with young quarterbacks, and Anthony Richardson is so hyper mobile

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Speaker 1: it's gonna look like Lamar in his first twelve NFL games.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna know what to do. I think the Colts,

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Speaker 1: that's my now. I think the Jags are going to

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Speaker 1: end up with twelve to thirteen wins. I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna get caught flat footed in Week one. You know

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a holy blank moment in Week one.

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Speaker 1: It's happened every year of my life. Give me a

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Speaker 1: Week one that you look at and think, oh, brother, Dallas, Giants, Eagles, Patriots,

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Speaker 1: what do you see really quick?

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Speaker 2: On the Jags. I talked to a buddy that's on

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Speaker 2: that staff, and he said, Calvin Ridley, Holy Molly, looks fantastic.

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Speaker 2: That their offense has a chance, that their defense is

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Speaker 2: just okay, that their offense could be lights out. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're talking top five or six in the league, So

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Speaker 2: I think big picture. I'm a big Jags believer. The

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers have started slow, just under Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 2: that they've usually had to get roll on the second

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Speaker 2: half of seasons in basically every season but the year

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Speaker 2: that they went to the Super Bowl. But the last

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Speaker 2: couple they have not started fast. Last year they didn't.

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Speaker 2: They lost Week one on the road to Chicago. We

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Speaker 2: had the number one overall draft pick. This year they

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Speaker 2: played Pittsburgh, and you know, Pittsburgh easily finished this last

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Speaker 2: stretch of the season playing as well as anyone. They

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Speaker 2: obviously missed the playoffs, but it was because they started

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Speaker 2: with Mitch Trubisky. By the end, their rookie quarterback was

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Speaker 2: leading game winning drives. Now they have a lot of confidence. TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt is healthy. I think they kind of have a

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Speaker 2: true identity. To me, Kenny Pickett and Mac Jones are

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Speaker 2: kind of in the same world. Kenny Piketts a little

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Speaker 2: bit better athlete, but the Steelers are much more equipped

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Speaker 2: to handle a guy like him Bill because they got playmakers.

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Speaker 2: They just they know what the guy is. They have

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Speaker 2: consistency with their coordinators. I think that's a weird spot

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Speaker 2: for forty nine ers Week one, you know, who are

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Speaker 2: favored on the road. With Brock Purty coming back from

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Speaker 2: this arm injury, he's ahead of schedule, He's able to

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Speaker 2: throw pretty much full go in practice right now. But

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Speaker 2: I could see the Niners, you know, winning thirteen games

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Speaker 2: and losing that game, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people are gonna you get the Steelers at a home

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Speaker 2: underdog week one. I mean that place is gonna be

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Speaker 2: going nuts. You know, brock perty we we can't give

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Speaker 2: him the Steve Young Joe Montana's treatment just yet on

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Speaker 2: the road week one against good teams.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is wat's Tomlin's track record. He's a

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Speaker 1: great extra underdog. Oh my god, it's the best underdog

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Speaker 1: coach in the league. He's a terrible favorites coach. And

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is like Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 1: He's the great motivator. It's hard to motivate when you're

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Speaker 1: a thirteen point favorite over the Bengals eight years ago.

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Speaker 1: He is a home Remember a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: they go into Buffalo low and kick that you know

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Speaker 1: what out of the Bills. We all thought the Bills

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Speaker 1: were gonna win fifteen games, and they went in there

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Speaker 1: block to punt. Josh Allen couldn't move the ball. Watch

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Speaker 1: watch Pittsburgh play there arse off in that game.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's so easy for him you know, from Cam

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Speaker 2: Hayward to TJ. Watt to make a you know, we've

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Speaker 2: played everyone from Peyton to Tom Brady or Rogers for

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Speaker 2: a decade here, and you brock Party is just gonna

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Speaker 2: get treated like them, you know, because that's that type number.

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Speaker 2: Now listen, Cot It's it's a Kyle Shanahan number, not

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Speaker 2: a Brock Party number. But I just think the Niners,

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Speaker 2: just when you look at their history, slow starts, and

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Speaker 2: that's just a tough opponent like this is not playing

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Speaker 2: some four win team week one. So I got that

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Speaker 2: one circle to just take the points right now. I

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Speaker 2: love that bit.

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Speaker 1: John middle Acoff three and Out Golf Podcast, Go Low.

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Speaker 1: Want to thank all the listeners for Amazon on amp. John,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait, have a great weekend, Gonna hit this,

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Speaker 1: gonna hit the golf course this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Well Colin, it's been about one hundred and forty degrees

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Speaker 2: here in Arizona, so I big golf for the first

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Speaker 2: time yesterday and needed about seven gatorades and eight gallons

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Speaker 2: of water. But I just recuperated about twenty four hours later.

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Speaker 1: So great seeing see yah.

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Speaker 2: The volume