1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: I am all in. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: That's you. I am all in with Scott Patterson and 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Podcast. 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast. One 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: of their productions, iHeartRadio, I Heart Podcast, I Heart Media. 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: One on one Interview, Episode five, Season seven, The Great Stink, 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: and we are joined by de two Cambo McCormick. How 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: did I do? That's it? Welcome, Welcome, thanks for joining us. 9 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: You portrayed Philip for three episodes of Gilmore. You one 10 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: of Logan's colleagues from London. You were born in Sierra Leone. 11 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: You are an actor producer known for Blood Diamond, Battle, 12 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Captain America, The Winner, Soldier, The OA n CIS, 13 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: and twenty four and Lost. You also lend your voice 14 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: to animated series such as Castevania, Castlevania and video games 15 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: like Call of Duty. Welcome, sir. We were very very 16 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: very very very entertained by those scenes or that scene 17 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: in the restaurant. We just got off the recap discussing it, 18 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: and it was quite controversial amongst us. Certain intelligent people 19 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: were quite entertained by it and others weren't, but they 20 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: had a bone to pic. But so first I'll tell 21 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: us how you got the role on Gilmore Girl. 22 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's an interesting story. So mar Casey 23 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 2: actually called my agent up after seeing me in Lost, 24 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: and she was like, who is the sky? We've got 25 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: a cast in something and and thanks. So I came 26 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: in for the audition and yas Mark Casey and she 27 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know, you're a tremendous actor. Let's 28 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: see if you can find a place for you. And 29 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: that's what happened. I auditioned the role fit like a glove. 30 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: I very much like them as opposed to the other 31 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: characters I tend to play. I tend to play like 32 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: you know, in Blood Diamond, that was someone who taught 33 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: children how to be child soldiers. And you know, I 34 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: play a lot of gangsters and that kind of thing, 35 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: and I don't have a gangster's bone in my body. 36 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: So I think it's interesting that they were like, Ah, 37 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: this guy is amazing on lot, let's put him in 38 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: Gilmour Girls. I mean great thinking by you know, Marques 39 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: and Jamierdovsky And yeah, I mean it was just a wonderful, 40 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: wonderful role to play, and yeah, and I love doing it. 41 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: So you play one of Logan's college from London, and 42 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: your first scene is at dinner with Rory and Logan's 43 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: very fast paced. What do you remember about shooting that day? 44 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: My goodness, So I talked pretty quickly, right, But when 45 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: I was on set, They're like, nope, fastest and fast 46 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: enough is literally what they said. And I was like, wait, 47 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: what I'd be I'm not speaking quickly enough, like nope, 48 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: And I remember just going lightning speed and being like, 49 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: am I even saying my words? Is this coming out correctly? 50 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't have time to big 51 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, you know. And so I remember 52 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: going pretty what I thought was a very fast paced 53 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: and being told I think by take two that we 54 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: needed to do it quicker, and and I was like, 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: all right, let me strit myself in and go for it, so. 56 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Calm and refrain from that's set. That's all I heard. 57 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: That's the only direction I ever heard was faster, faster, funnier, faster, funny, faster, funny. 58 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: So you Vanessa Branch who played Bobby, and Chris Payne 59 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: played the three colleagues, did you guys spend a lot 60 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: of time together because of the role, or do you 61 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: still tend to stay in touch with those guys. 62 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: I stay in touch with Chris for a little bit afterwards, 63 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: but I think I saw Vanessa once in an event, 64 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: but unfortunately, know we haven't stayed in touch. 65 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: So what will you You have a favorite memory of 66 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: being on set? 67 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: You know, actually one of my favorite memories is I 68 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: think from episode fifteen. And it's not a memory just 69 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: because it was entertaining, it was it was a It 70 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: was a great memory because of how gracious Matt Zaffrey was, 71 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: and you know, it was me telling him that whole 72 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: you know, the sad story about our company going bust, 73 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: and you know, and basically he didn't have to give 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: me his lions. You know, he was off camera and 75 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: he was like, no Ida, I've got to be here 76 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: for you. I've got to you know, I got to 77 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: be here and do your life, do my lines for you. 78 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: I was like, you don't have to know so late 79 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: at that point, it's like two in the morning, and 80 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: I just remember him just staying. We did the lines 81 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: together and the scene was beautiful. So thanks, Matt, if 82 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: you're listening, I appreciate it. 83 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: Whole stand up guy all the way around. Stand up guy. 84 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: For sure, Ladies chime in any question I was going 85 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: to ask one, was the last time you've seen like 86 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: an episode. 87 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: You're in It's been a minute, but no, but it 88 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: was such a fun show to do, you know. And 89 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: I remember thinking, because listen, I do as I said, 90 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: like Lost of Blood, Diamond and it's a lot of 91 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: doom and gloom. And I remember being like I had 92 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: an audition and this was like, wait, all these other 93 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: things make sense on your resume, but Gilmore girls, you know, 94 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, But what is interesting is because 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: I think that was the one and only time I 96 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: was on w It was on w B right rather 97 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: than warnerbellas exactly. And mind you, I've been told many 98 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: times that I didn't have a w B look or 99 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: CW look, and I was like, oh, well that sucks, 100 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: you know, so but just the fact that you know, 101 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: casting saw something else and not the traditional I guess 102 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: a look for people that tend to be cast on 103 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: those shows. That was something I really appreciated. And you know, 104 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: I think that was just an amazing and an awesome 105 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: thing by j Me and MARAA. Casey. Why cannot say, 106 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: you know, you know, good good things up about them, 107 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was great to actually be on that show. 108 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: And I just said, I just have a lot of 109 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: fun memories. 110 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Tell us about being scouted at the age of twelve 111 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: years old in Kenya for your first film. 112 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: Gosh, that was a long time ago. Well, interestingly enough, 113 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm having a full circle moment. So I, as you 114 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: guys know, I did my first movie when I was 115 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: twelve years old. It's called The Great Elephant Escape, and 116 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 2: it starred Joseph Gordon Levitt and the late Junie Sands 117 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: and late New Bremister. And I did a lot of 118 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: plays when I was a kid. I was I just 119 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: love being on stage. And I remember I did my 120 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: first play when I was five. I was a bee 121 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: in a play called Be's. I remember falling off the 122 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: stage and I have this memory of my dad, you know, 123 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: coming towards me to like basically pick me up and 124 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: put me back on and I was like, no, I 125 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: got this, and I got back on the stage and 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: I finished the play, and I just kept on doing 127 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: other plays. And then at twelve, this casting director was like, 128 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: we're doing a Disney film in Kenya. Are you interested? 129 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: Do you want to audition for it? And I was like, 130 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: of course, you know, of course I wanted to do 131 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: this once a lifetime opportunity, and and I did, and 132 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: thanks to the booked the role, and and then that 133 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: just basically started my career. And then I went to 134 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: study Purchase Consideratoris Theater as the film, and then graduated 135 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: and started working in Los Angeles. 136 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: What was that experience, Like, did you still keep in 137 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: contact with some of those people from Sydney Purchase? 138 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: I do. I do just view of us, like, you know, 139 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: Malcolm Goodwin and Victor Cruz and and a few other people. Yeah, 140 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: I mean we're the Purchase mafia. We're a tight knit group. 141 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: How did your family take it when you wanted to 142 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: move to pursue acting. I mean you where did you go? 143 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: You left and left? Yeah, yeah, very back. 144 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: I went to first So first I went, I left 145 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: Kenya and I went to New York. I went to 146 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: the Sydney Purchases Union. My dad. You know, I'm the 147 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: son of a diplomat. So my father was at first 148 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: was like, uh, this is not something we really do. 149 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: You know. Mind you my sisters all have PhDs and 150 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: you know, doctor lawyers that kind of thing. But my 151 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: dad was like that this is something that you really 152 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: want to do. I'm going to support you one hundred 153 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: and ten percent. And that meant a lot because that 154 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: was the time. You know, a lot of people from 155 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: my country or you know, doctor, lawyer, engineer, partacists, whatever, 156 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: but the arts isn't something that we pursue, something that 157 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: parents even don't really support. But my dad was very supportive. 158 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: I think it helps because my late mother was an 159 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: actress as well, so it didn't come totally out of 160 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: left field, you know, so I think, yeah, so they 161 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: were very, very very supportive. And but I do remember 162 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: though when I graduated. Now, mind you, we have this 163 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: thing that you know when you go to the CONCERTI 164 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: Consortium of Professional theod Arts Training purchased as one of 165 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: the universities I think Carnegian, Melon, a few others and 166 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: after the consortium, and I was like one of the 167 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: top in my class. But when I did consortium, I 168 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: didn't get an agent or a casting direct or anything. 169 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: And I remember I called my dad and I was 170 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: like teariarus. I was like, Daddy, this is working out. 171 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: I didn't get anything, and my dad there's this long 172 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: silence and was like, you owe me thirty eight thousand 173 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: dollars intuition money figure it out. I was like, okay, 174 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: but you know, it was tough love, and honestly, I 175 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: was like, that's not going to be the setback that, 176 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: you know, stopped the ends of my career. And yeah, 177 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: and I just was like okay, and I found the 178 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: payment and got an agent, thankfully, and soon after graduation 179 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: I ended up moving to Los Angeles and I think 180 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: I booked Lost, and then right after Lost was I 181 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: think Gilmore Girls came soon after that. Yeah, Lost in 182 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: a couple of things and gil More Girls. So but 183 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: my parents have been very, very supportive, and I think 184 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: always get a kick out of seeing me on TV 185 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,359 Speaker 2: or you know, hearing my voice on things like Pennsylvania. 186 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: And I was going. 187 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: To ask you, do you prefer being on camera or 188 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: the voiceover stuff, because they're very different. 189 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: They're they're different and the same, if that makes sense, 190 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: because your my approach is almost identical. It's like, who's 191 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: your backstory? Who are you? What are the stakes? You know, 192 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: all of it. I think it's less precious sometimes because 193 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: you don't have to look a certain way, and if 194 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: you have a giant ZiT, I can show up in 195 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: my sweatpants and you don't do my job. But yeah, 196 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: but my approach is identical. I'm a complete maniac of 197 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: the studio. I act up on my macines and I 198 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: have a lot of fun. So yeah, I mean it's 199 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: just my approach is the same, and I love both equally. 200 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: I guess, you. 201 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: Know, is there a difference between voiceover work for animated 202 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: series and video games? Like? How does that is that 203 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: different at all? 204 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: Yes? I mean a lot of the video games, I 205 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: would say it's a lot more taxing on your voice, 206 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: and so I you know, you have to have a 207 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: lot of stamina, you have to learn your breathing technique, 208 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: you have to It's just it's really really hard. So 209 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: I would say it's just harder and it's just more 210 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: more taxing, and it requires a lot more vocal stamina. 211 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: Interesting animation. And then as far as a lot of animation, 212 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: I mean, look at things like Castlevania and The Blood 213 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: of Z using of the other things that I've done, 214 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: the dialogue is so elevated and it's just so beautiful 215 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: and in some ways it feels very Shakespearean, and so 216 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: I just really fall in love. I love language, I 217 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: love dialogue and love words. So I think that's just 218 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: what makes me just love what I do so much. 219 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Tell us about The German King, that's your most recent project. 220 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: Tell us about that. 221 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's actually why I think earlier I said 222 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: it's everything very full circle. So I'm actually in Kenya 223 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: right now. It's mourning for me. 224 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning. 225 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm here during pre production for this series, 226 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: and we decided to shoot here in Kenya because of 227 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: the fact that, you know, there's a lot of infrastructure 228 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: here and the landscape and everything feels very similar to Cameroon. 229 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: But to answer your question, Scott, The German King is 230 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: the incredible true story of Rudolph Dulla mangan Bel, who 231 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: is a Cameroonian born German raised prince who grew up 232 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: in royal courts and then he ends up becoming king 233 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: and when he comes back to Cameroon to take the throne, 234 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: he sees that his people being subjugated and enslaved on 235 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: the tyrannical German colonial rule, and he rises up against 236 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: it and leads rebellion against German coronalism, which begins this 237 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: domino effect across Africa to bring down German crony rule. 238 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: Across the continent. 239 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, place taking about what years sustained place. 240 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: So the story takes place in late eighteen hundreds and 241 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: during the peak of the Scramble for Africa, and and 242 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: it goes all the way to effect when Rudolph leaves 243 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: Rebellion that's actually in nineteen fourteen rather the start of 244 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: World War One. 245 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: Are you playing the title role? 246 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm playing Rudolfdwell and Mangabell. Yes, I am playing. 247 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Who's behind it? Who's who's producing it? 248 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: The Angel Studios, which is the studio behind The Chosen 249 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: and Sound of Freedom, the blockbuster hit that came out 250 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: last year, and Cabrini, which came out last month. So yeah, 251 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: they're they're great and been really supportive, and you know, 252 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: there was this is a show that amplifies light and 253 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: that's what they're all about. Stories that are empowering and 254 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: stories that are inspiring and heroic and you know, ultimately 255 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: have a really positive message. 256 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: And who else who else is in the cave? 257 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: I can't announce it? Just yeah, Unfortunately, what they're gonna do? 258 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: How many episodes are you going to do? 259 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: So the first season is six episodes, and subsequent seasons 260 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: would be a little bit more. But yeah, it's it's 261 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: it's really really exciting. Uh yeah, yeah, it's just we 262 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: did a short film based on but we did a 263 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: short film that went to can and you know, Hollish 264 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: played at Holly Shorts and won a bunch of awards 265 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: and even qualified for OSCAR consideration, and and Angel Studios 266 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: was like, what is this thing? This is amazing. And 267 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: originally I wanted to turn it into a feature length film, 268 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: but Angel they really thought that because of the scope 269 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: and how nuanced stories like this can be, it made 270 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: more sense of a TV series. And so we talked about, 271 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: you know, just how what we could do, and talked 272 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: about just going from the beginning, you know. And also 273 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: I got to learn a lot of about my history 274 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: because growing up in Kenya, so I actually I grew 275 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: up here. The history we learned was very much about 276 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: British history. It was like Queen Victoria and you know, 277 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: Henry Thea than honor those people. But we didn't really 278 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: learn about like Patris La Mumba, Toma Boya, any of 279 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: the great African heroes. So for me, when I came 280 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: to America and I started doing all this research, I 281 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: was like, oh, my gosh, there's so much I don't know, 282 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: and we get to put all this history into the story, 283 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: so people get to be educated about African history. In fact, 284 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm even hesitant to say African history because African history 285 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: is world history. You can't really talk about Germany's history 286 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: without talking about colonialism, without talking about, you know, the 287 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: fact that they raped and pillaged and stole a lot 288 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: of natural resources and minerals which did make their empire great. 289 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: And also you look at England, you look at Belgium, 290 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: and you look at the crisis that happened in Congo. 291 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: So we get to address all these things and talk 292 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: about all these different people who also put back against 293 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: some periodists and how it really took like a lot 294 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: of people to basically fight back and they change. 295 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: Hm. Wow, and that's all going to be covered in 296 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: this series. Yes, wow, Well, good luck with that. These 297 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: are important stories and you must feel on top of 298 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: the world getting to play a character like this. I mean, 299 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: this is this is what you live for, and this 300 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: is the sounds like a career defining role and I 301 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: hope it brings you everything you deserve. I appreciate that 302 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: should do some rapid fire. Well, now let's let's get 303 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: just now and talk about the very important things. Okay, 304 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: and this is called rapid fire. Get ready for the serious, 305 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: impactful questions. How do you like your coffee? 306 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,239 Speaker 2: That's delicious? 307 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: Are your team Logan, Team Jess or Team Dean Logan? 308 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: Obviously? 309 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Who's your favorite Gilmore girls couple? Luke and Lorelei or 310 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: Emily and Richard? Thank you very much. Would you rather 311 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: work with Michelle or Kirk Kirk Kirk? 312 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, I just like the name. 313 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: Who would you rather hang out with Paris or Lane? 314 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Paris me too, honestly, Harvard or Yale? Or drop out 315 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: and live in the pool unequivocally Harvard. Would you rather 316 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: attend a D A R event with Emily or a 317 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: town hall meeting with Taylor? Oh? 318 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: Top one, tough one, can, I says, sorry, that. 319 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: Is not an option. I'll give you a hint to 320 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: the town hall meeting. Thinks the opposite Gilmore character that 321 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: you would want as a roommate? 322 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I would probably say Rory. 323 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: As a roommate. 324 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: As a roommate, yes, yes, I would. 325 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's kind of she would be very respectful of 326 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: your space. She'd be she's she's kind of a very 327 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: light touch. She's delightful. 328 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: She would replenish them. Yeah, conversations, you know, the whole journalist. 329 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: I mean, she's intellectual. That's that person. I am so yeah. 330 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I agree. Congratulations for for getting this off 331 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: the ground. I wish you all the best with it. 332 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: I'll be looking for it, I'll be watching it, rooting 333 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: you on. Thank you so much for your time. I 334 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: know it's early there, I know you're busy and you 335 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: have important stories to tell. The too Combo McCormick, you 336 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: were a delight. You were a massive thank God, bless 337 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: and good luck. Thank you saying okay, thanks for coming. 338 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: Thank you everybody. You guys are amazing. 339 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: Everybody else forget Follow us on Instagram at I Am 340 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: all In podcast, and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio 341 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: dot com.