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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: show on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 2: d Matt Williamson. And it's a beautiful Monday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: And it's a beautiful Monday and start of training, eero

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Speaker 2: should say, mandatory mini camp tomorrow for the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: and a lot of teams kicking off mandatory mini camps

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Speaker 2: this week. Today you had the Atlanta Falcons, Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: the Rams, and Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow started today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Tomorrow is the Cardinals, Ravens, Bills, Panthers, Bengals, Browns, Broncos, Packers, Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers, Saints, Giants, Jets, Steelers, Seahawks, Buccaneers,

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Speaker 2: and Commanders. So the entire AFC north and running. We'll

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Speaker 2: be up and running here. And uh, I'm looking here

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Speaker 2: on NFL dot com and they have the the burning

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Speaker 2: question for each team that that's opening up their mini

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Speaker 2: camps this week, their mini camp, big mini camp questions.

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Speaker 2: So I thought we'd take a look at that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and folks, this is a little more ramped up

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Speaker 3: than what they've been doing previous week. Yeah, it's not

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Speaker 3: light years. I mean I was still kindergarten to second grade.

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Speaker 2: You know, here's the thing about about O ta's and

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Speaker 2: mini camps. Anybody that tells you that such and such

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Speaker 2: offensive or defensive lineman is looking good is completely full

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Speaker 2: of WHOI Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean he might be like, oh, his feet are

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Speaker 3: better than I thought, but you'd be because they're not.

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Speaker 2: Even doing anybody. You know, most people who tell you

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Speaker 2: that are full like me, I'm not. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to include you because you've been You've been a scout, Like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I can I can watch a guy move. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: moves pretty well. I don't know what I'm looking at.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if they're going on dred percent

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Speaker 3: right the other thing, you know, you know, be different

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Speaker 3: if he was trying to hit that sled at one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent, like it's Jalen Carter. He's trying to block

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Speaker 3: or something, and it's not. They're working on technique, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So any always take news out of these kind

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Speaker 2: of situations like that with a grain of salt, because

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Speaker 2: fast guys are going to look fast Yep.

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Speaker 3: Helps little guys. Help little guys.

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Speaker 2: Little guys are gonna are gonna stand out again. I

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Speaker 2: mentioned was pretty good. I mentioned that a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks ago where Dree Archer, I'm like, oh, three, Archer

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Speaker 2: looks different. He's really yeah, because he's he is way

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Speaker 2: faster than everybody else, but when you hit him, he's

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Speaker 2: not quite as fast.

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Speaker 3: Or there's twenty two people on the not as much room. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: exactly right.

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Speaker 2: So take that all with a grain of salt. If

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Speaker 2: if some's making these these blanket statements about this guy

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Speaker 2: looking great and that guy looking great, and they play

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Speaker 2: a position that involves blocking, tackling, or or pass rushing,

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Speaker 2: they are full of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course. You know, there's some in between

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Speaker 3: the linebackers, the running backs, the tight ends that kind

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Speaker 3: of do a little everything fine, but still what they're

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Speaker 3: being asked to do is something that's really hard to

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Speaker 3: cipher from the side. It's flag foot flag football. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it.

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Speaker 2: Might be flag football fifty percent speed.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thing too, it's like, I'd rather your steps are

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Speaker 3: right than you're doing it one hundred percent at full

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Speaker 3: speed at this point. Process the other one, I always

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Speaker 3: love your Cordell Can Graham conversation. Oh, Ball's hardly ever

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Speaker 3: hitting the ground out there or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean he's a professional quarterback. But pleading pastes the open receivers, Yes,

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Speaker 3: that should not Yeah, in seven on seven drills exactly.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let let's take a look first here

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Speaker 2: at the AFC North teams that are getting into it.

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Speaker 2: They'll start all on Tuesday, right, And the burning question

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Speaker 2: for the Baltimore Ravens is what's their offensive line?

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Speaker 3: Peck or I haven't looked at this yet. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I'm curious what their depth chart looks like on the

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Speaker 3: O line when it's all starting to shape up here.

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Speaker 2: So we know Ronnie Stanley's going to be at left tackle. Now,

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Speaker 2: how much he's at left tackle is a question mark.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's turned the corner, but the last couple of

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Speaker 3: years have been worrisome to say that.

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Speaker 2: He's been like a messenger tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't even play every snap, which is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Uh. And then we know Tyler Linderbaum is going to

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Speaker 3: He's their best lineman at this point.

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Speaker 2: Beyond that, the other three spots are up for grabs.

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Speaker 2: You got Andrew Vorhees, benk Cleveland, Daniel Falle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's our guy.

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Speaker 2: Uh Melissama or Mala sala lalu. I've never even heard

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he does.

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Speaker 2: Josh Jones and their second round pick from this year,

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Speaker 2: Roger Rosengarten.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Josh Jones is kind of interesting in that he

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Speaker 3: can play garter tackle and they didn't even mention McCary.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's still in the game. Yeah, So they

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Speaker 3: have a couple of guys that are positioned flexible.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know if in the mix for them,

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Speaker 2: they're in trouble.

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Speaker 3: He's one we know, Yeah, you know what I mean, Voorhees,

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Speaker 3: We don't Roseen Garden, we don't, both of whom had

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Speaker 3: some had degree coming out of school, different paths to

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Speaker 3: get there. But playing Rose and Garden at right tackle,

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Speaker 3: to me, isn't the same as putting Zach Frasier in

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Speaker 2: No, you know what, I'm not even close and close.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's just a more difficult chore. He's not

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Speaker 3: as NFL ready, and I know that's the term that

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Speaker 3: you shouldn't use because nobody's NFL ready, But I would

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Speaker 3: be more worried about that.

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Speaker 2: He should be more of a project. He's not strong enough.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Here's so here we go right out of the gate.

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Speaker 2: Voris could swipe the left guard spot after impressing during OTAs.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, that.

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Speaker 3: Just means I mean last OTA's he wasn't even healthy

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Speaker 3: right he was on the field there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I know, people look at it,

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Speaker 2: and I saw Ross Tucker say they've they've always had

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Speaker 2: guys in waiting, they just you know, they they fill

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Speaker 2: it in, which by and large has been the case.

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Speaker 2: But they haven't had this kind of turnover.

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Speaker 3: No, and they haven't had the number of draft picks

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Speaker 3: the last couple of years that they've had probably in

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Speaker 3: that era Ross is talking about when they bring in

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Speaker 3: ten twelve guys have dudes sitting around for a year.

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Speaker 3: That's a little scarcer with Baltimore than it's been over

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Speaker 3: the last decade or so. It shocks me a little.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's some hindsight here, but it even shocked

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Speaker 3: me what happened. Like Morgan Moses is a good right tackle.

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Speaker 3: Did you really have to get rid of him or

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because then you had to draft Rose and guard.

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Speaker 3: Right or even now Rose Garden could just be your

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Speaker 3: six guy. I mean, he would have no expectations this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting. I mean, even if

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Speaker 2: Macari starts somewhere I bet he does, they still need

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Speaker 2: two other guys and it hurts her depth.

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Speaker 3: And he's not a high end start.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a six man. Yeah, it hurts her depth

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Speaker 3: So, and you could say it's about tons of teams

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Speaker 3: or having forbid Leonard Baumber Stanley struggles or gets hurt

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Speaker 3: or whatever too. The guys are counting on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's something we're not accustomed seeing in Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's not many guys on the open market

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Speaker 3: you can just pick up either. No.

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Speaker 2: No, for the Bengals, and this is really interesting for them.

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Speaker 2: Will Jamar Chase and t Higgins skip the mandatory mini camp?

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Speaker 2: Now Higgins isn't under contracts.

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Speaker 3: Higgins is not a football He has not.

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Speaker 2: Signed his franchise tender, so technically he's not even really

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Speaker 2: a Bengalnow they own his rights, right, but that's it.

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Speaker 3: He won't get fined if he misses. No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not under contract. But Chase just saw all

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Speaker 2: these other receivers go out and sign contracts, including guys

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Speaker 2: like Vonte Smith and Waddell who were a year behind

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Speaker 2: where he's at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was about to say the guys signed are

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Speaker 3: all a year older than him, but Wattle and Smith

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Speaker 2: They're a year behind.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're with London and he's playing.

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Speaker 2: He's playing on his fifty year tender this year. It's

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Speaker 2: seventeen million. Is he going to be happy with that?

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Speaker 3: Not with the way money's lying around right now? No,

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Speaker 3: because he could He's one that could rival Jeffers.

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Speaker 2: When Jefferson gets thirty eight and you're making seventeen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you're going on, I'm not half the player he is.

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Speaker 2: I'm more than half the player and I'm eligible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if you do it right, right, you

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Speaker 3: can't do that with Pickens right now, right a right?

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Speaker 3: You know that's interesting. I hadn't thought about the Chase

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Speaker 3: hold out thing. I mean, the Higgins ones are well documented,

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Speaker 3: but that's not a holdout. But he's that's a little tenuous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They say he indicated last week he plans to

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Speaker 2: attend the mini camp. He might just stand there, but

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Speaker 2: he might stand. It might be a hold in situation,

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Speaker 2: and she has every right to do. And if that's

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Speaker 2: the case, then you're you're out there working on offense

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Speaker 2: without your two best receivers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is great for the Burtons. And I have

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Speaker 3: vices and all those dudes that you know could use

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Speaker 3: the work. And I'm sure Chase and Higgins will get

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Speaker 3: up to speed at some point. Of course. The other

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Speaker 3: thing is, I haven't heard anything about it, but Hendricks

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Speaker 3: didn't requested a trade. Yeah, and he's not gonna get

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Speaker 3: it from Cincinnati. That's just not what they do. But

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Speaker 3: is he part of that mix too? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: They could have a couple of guys, more than a

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Speaker 2: couple of guys here who are unhappy with the contract situations.

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Speaker 3: Those are three of their best six or seven players. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if not, if not three or four, yeah right, I

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Speaker 3: mean besides the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's worth watching here. And if if,

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Speaker 2: if you're Joe Burrow, do you go to the front

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Speaker 2: office and lobby to get the A we need to

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Speaker 2: do something with the side step up right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I bet Higgins nothing happens. But how about we

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Speaker 3: give Jamar a thirty three million dollars. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. But the Browns don't listen like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Brown family, not Cleveland Browns. You know,

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Speaker 3: They're not going to be persuaded by anybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's definitely something worth watching.

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Speaker 3: Here like Dallas. Yeah, it really is a couple of

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Speaker 3: big dogs, not happy slash up you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know in the rail season, you get

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Speaker 2: into the situation with HGT. Higgins and Hendrickson where again

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Speaker 2: we've we talked about this before. If they've got something

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Speaker 2: injury wise, it's like, okay, yeah we can. If I were,

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Speaker 2: if I were under contract for next year, I don't

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Speaker 2: play through this. Yeah, but I'm not, And I don't

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Speaker 2: want to go out there and an A put bad

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Speaker 2: tape out there and b maybe you know, injure myself further.

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Speaker 2: It hurts me down the road. So maybe I don't.

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Speaker 2: below the knecos he's in number two. Yeah, so through

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Speaker 2: a Steeler lens, would you consider giving him seventeen if

436
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Speaker 2: the pick was minimal? Yeah, that would be the key.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't know that he's gonna be a Bronco.

438
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Speaker 3: I mean, how his contrast is a tough one to

439
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Speaker 3: work if you're them, especially because he's not he's going

440
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Speaker 3: to be their one, right, but he's not a one

441
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Speaker 3: and they're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna I don't know that they're going to

443
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Speaker 2: throw the ball real effectively, right, and I don't know

444
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,399
Speaker 2: that the way they want to throw the football necessarily

445
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Speaker 2: suits his style of.

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Speaker 3: Play, or if Peyton likes him, I mean Peyton wants

447
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Speaker 3: his guys right, and that's one of those inherited dudes.

448
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,719
Speaker 3: That's why the rosters had such turnover. I like him.

449
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 3: He's a quality two.

450
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Speaker 2: For the Packers. It's how is Josh Jacobs's health.

451
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Speaker 3: M hm.

452
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 2: He's constantly a little nicked up.

453
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Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll ask him to do nothing.

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00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he won't do much for the Chiefs. And this

455
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 2: is a big who takes the lead at left tackled

456
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Speaker 2: in the training camp. You're looking at Wanya, Morris, Kingsley,

457
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Speaker 2: Sue and Mattia.

458
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Joe talented young guys, but vastly unproven.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't a big one ya Morris guy

460
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Speaker 2: in last year's draft, and Sue Mattia has some talent,

461
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Speaker 2: but he's he's a raw rookie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they both were highly unproven. That should be one

463
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Speaker 3: of the better roster true camp battles I think you'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean for a top team for the Raiders,

465
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Speaker 2: is Aidan O'Connor or Gardner Minshew? To me, it has

466
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Speaker 2: to be Minshew.

467
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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's Minshaw.

468
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Speaker 2: Yeah. For the Chargers, it's how how is Joe Altz

469
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 2: transitioned to right tackle?

470
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Speaker 3: Going okay, but hard thing to watch, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

472
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Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna be working on his footwork and

473
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: all those things, but he's not gonna block Dj Watt.

474
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Speaker 2: For the Saints, it's how is Clint Kubik's installation going.

475
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: That offense could certainly use changes and it's gonna get them.

476
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Speaker 2: For the Giants is how does their wide receiver room

477
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 2: begin to sort itself out? It's Malik Neighbors and Darius Slayton,

478
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 2: you know those two are going to be part of it.

479
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 2: Then you got Wandel Robinson, Jalen Hyatt, Alan Robinson, Isaiah McKenzie,

480
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: Isaiah Hodgins, Miles Boykin, Gunner, Oshsky. They got all these,

481
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Speaker 2: They got all the former Steelers wide receivers, but none

482
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Speaker 2: of the good ones.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. See, I think that room's actually pretty decent. I mean,

484
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Speaker 3: if Neighbors is really a one at some point. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 3: I think Robinson's a really good young slot. Hyatt is

486
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 3: it take the top off guy and he can do

487
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Speaker 3: more than that. And Slayton's a quality player, yeah, which

488
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 3: we've brought up and maybe you could pry him away. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of bodies there. They've liked Hodges over

490
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Speaker 3: the years.

491
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Speaker 2: For the Jets, is it the Hassan Reddick holding out

492
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Speaker 2: or holding in? Will he show up? He wants a

493
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Speaker 2: new deal?

494
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Speaker 3: They traded for him, Yeah, but didn't give him a

495
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Speaker 3: deal yet. Yes, that's Harry.

496
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Speaker 2: For the Seahawks. How does Ryan Grubbs offense look coming over.

497
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Speaker 3: From all these new coordinators? How you know, how's the

498
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Speaker 3: offense look? Yeah? Stuff?

499
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Speaker 2: For the Bucks, it's how is Liam Cohen's offense look different?

500
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Speaker 2: Or how's it? How is his offense differ from Dave

501
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: Canalis's scheme?

502
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Speaker 3: Again, they're not even the most trained eyes, not gonna

503
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Speaker 3: be able to tell you necessarily.

504
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Speaker 2: And then finally, for the Commanders, how is Jaden Daniels progressing?

505
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Speaker 2: And Cliff Kingbury system?

506
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean low hanging fruit there, of course, they're

507
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: a line would be one thing I'd like to look

508
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Speaker 3: at how that shakes out.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're going to get to a break. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

512
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Speaker 2: with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

514
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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio, and we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He

517
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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. And we also now know that

518
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Speaker 2: somebody else is going to be back for at least

519
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Speaker 2: through twenty twenty seven unless something crazy happens. Steelers signing

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Speaker 2: head coach Mike Tomlin to a three year extension that

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Speaker 2: will keep him as the head coach through the twenty

522
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Speaker 2: twenty seven season. And yeah, I know that's gonna you know,

523
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Speaker 2: cause some consternation with some people. Other people will say, oh,

524
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Speaker 2: you know, that's good.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a no brainer.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a no brainer as well. I think

527
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Speaker 2: you know when you when you start looking at things

528
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Speaker 2: and you start looking at other coaches around the league.

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Speaker 2: He is certainly in the upper echelon of head coaches

530
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Speaker 2: and well deserving of that extension.

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Speaker 3: It's a future Hall of Famer that is kind of

532
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Speaker 3: his prime in a way in terms of just age

533
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Speaker 3: all that. I mean, I don't know what the dollars are.

534
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 3: The coach stuff doesn't always come out like players. That's

535
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Speaker 3: frankly between the Tomlins and the Roonies. I don't care

536
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Speaker 3: whatever it is. They're happy. I'm just happy he's around.

537
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Speaker 3: For the next three years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that leads me to the Touchdown Wire put together

539
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Speaker 2: their rankings of the top thirty two or the thirty two,

540
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Speaker 2: not top thirty two, thirty two, thirty two head coaches

541
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Speaker 2: in the league.

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Speaker 3: Let's take it included the rookie guys, which this year

543
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Speaker 3: is easier than some because the Harbaughs and some of

544
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Speaker 3: these dudes have been around. But I don't know how

545
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Speaker 3: you rank some of the guys.

546
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Speaker 2: So at thirty two, they have Dennis Allen.

547
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Speaker 3: Probably a coordinator for Peyton that's got thrust into being

548
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: the head coach too soon or abruptly.

549
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 2: At thirty one is Matt Eberfluss with the Bears.

550
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Speaker 3: What's his leash? I mean, he was probably a fifty

551
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Speaker 3: to fifty call. Knowing you're gonna have a new quarterback,

552
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Speaker 3: knowing that all those changes, you better do something.

553
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Speaker 2: They better push for a playoffs, but yeah, even this year. Yeah,

554
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Speaker 2: and if they don't, you better win seven or eight

555
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: at a minimum. Yeah, at thirty and I don't know

556
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Speaker 2: how you put him this high because he's one that

557
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: hasn't done it.

558
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Speaker 3: Jared Mayo, Yeah, I'm not even a comment on the

559
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: guys that are never been a head coach, I mean,

560
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Speaker 3: who knows. I wish them all the best, but I

561
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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine is Brian Dayball and if you've coach of

563
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Speaker 2: the year two years but yeah, putting together this list

564
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Speaker 2: two years ago, I'm guarantee you he was much higher.

565
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Speaker 2: And some of the bloom has come off the rose.

566
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Speaker 3: It has, and a lot of it was, you know,

567
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones overachieving two years ago. The more I studied

568
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: the Giants, though they didn't block anybody, I mean, like

569
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: the Titans and Giants really had all sorts of blocking problems.

570
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Speaker 3: And can we blame Daboll for some of that? I mean,

571
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Speaker 3: I guess, but it's hard to call plays when so

572
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Speaker 3: they went out and signed some wineman. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At twenty eight Robert Salah with the Jets.

574
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Speaker 3: Been impressed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen anything makes me look at him

576
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Speaker 2: and go, oh, he's really good.

577
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Speaker 3: Right, I mean decordinator with the Niners, Yes, but he

578
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Speaker 3: has not impressed me as the head coach of the Jets.

579
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Speaker 2: Twenty seven Brian Callahan with the Titans. Again, guy that

580
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: hasn't done it Brook. Yeah, yeah, don't know, just don't know.

581
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Speaker 2: Twenty six Todd Bulls with the Buckers.

582
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Speaker 3: Great decordinator, I think he does.

583
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Speaker 2: I think he's a better head coach than he gets

584
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Speaker 2: credit for.

585
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Speaker 3: Pretty low.

586
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Speaker 2: That's pretty low for a guy who won division last year,

587
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Speaker 2: won that division last year with Baker Mayfield, I thought.

588
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: I thought his Jet teams a lot of times overachieved

589
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: when he was there.

590
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Speaker 3: Yeah. True, I was with him in Cleveland. I was

591
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: always super impressed with the guy. I don't know. Head

592
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: coaching ranks are tough. I mean, I'm not sure that

593
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 3: these names ahead of them were all gonna be like, oh,

594
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Speaker 3: they're terrible, they should be lower. But he's coming off

595
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Speaker 3: a strong year. I'm sure he should be higher this

596
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Speaker 3: year he was a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree in a minimum twenty five. Antonio Pierce

598
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Speaker 2: with the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I'd love his story, and frankly, I'm rooting for the

600
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: man because he seems very popular, but he scares the

601
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Speaker 3: heck out of him. I mean, he took over a

602
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Speaker 3: terrible situation and they became competitive, and that's wonderful. But

603
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Speaker 3: he's been that football coach, not a head coach, for

604
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: like five years. Yeah, and now he's the head coach

605
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: of the Raiders. I don't know about that one.

606
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: At twenty four Dave Kanalis with the Panthers. Who know,

607
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Speaker 2: I can't put him ahead of his head coach for

608
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, that's crazy.

609
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Speaker 3: Any of the great things with the Bucks offense, but

610
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: Todd was doing pretty good stuff with the Bucks defense.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three is Mike McDonald with the Seahawks. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I approve of the higher.

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Speaker 2: This was a defensive coordinator of Michigan three years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, who knows. Seems like a good higher,

615
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: but I don't know how you cant him that high.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two Mike McCarthy with Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to think of him. I mean,

618
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Speaker 3: he's won a lot of games, yes, you know, he's

619
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Speaker 3: had really good teams Rogers, dak et cetera. And he's

620
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 3: never at the top of these lists, but his all

621
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Speaker 3: time resume is a lot better than that. Yeah, you

622
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: know what I mean. No closer to the Tomlin harball.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's closer to being top ten than it is.

624
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of career winning percentage, total wins, that

625
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: type of thing.

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00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: But.

627
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Speaker 3: No respect. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one is Dan Quinn with Commanders.

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Speaker 3: At least he's done it, but he didn't do it

630
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Speaker 3: great well? Right? Right?

631
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: Is Raheem Morris with the Falcons.

632
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: I know he's a Tomlin favorite and seems like a

633
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 3: great higher, but I don't know how you put him

634
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: that high, you know, I've not seen it, but much before.

635
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: Nineteen is Jonathan Gannon with the Cardinals.

636
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: I thought he way out kicked his coverage last year.

637
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: I mean, like re Ryning three hundred and sixty five days,

638
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: everyone's like, oh, the Cardinals is the worst roster in

639
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: the league. Oh, Cardinals are horrible. There to get the

640
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 3: first pick of the draft, it's a foregone conclusion. They

641
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: were pretty competitive.

642
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: Eighteen is Nick Sirianni with the Eagles last year.

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00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: I do know, No, it did not. I mean, team

644
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: crumbles like that is a direct result, and then they

645
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: go get two coordinators that are brand name guys. His

646
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: seat's got to be a little warm and.

647
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: A little warm.

648
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

649
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: Seventeen is Doug Peterson with the Jaguars.

650
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Speaker 3: He's another one. I don't know quite what to make

651
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Speaker 3: all these.

652
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Speaker 2: Guys with these Eagles ties here, right, yeah.

653
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he's better than the duty took over for

654
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: Lawrence's the year that was a disaster. But shouldn't they

655
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: be getting more out of the Jags too.

656
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: You would think, I mean, yeah, I mean, you know,

657
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: I understand he's he's the adult in the room. But

658
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: they were eight and three and then loss five of

659
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: the last six.

660
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: Like that's a disaster, right. They had a stronghold on.

661
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: That revision sixteen Sean Payton.

662
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Tough one.

663
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: The bloom came off the rows a little bit there.

664
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Lifetime Achievement Awards really strong, is it?

665
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: I think so.

666
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: Because I disagree.

667
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: This is a guy.

668
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: Okay, he won a Super Bowl with Drew Brees. Yeah,

669
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: he also had three losing seasons in a row with

670
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: Drew Brees.

671
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: I mean, like there's some crazy numbers of if Breese

672
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: had the twenty fifth or better defense in the league,

673
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: they went to the playoffs. That's what I mean. Yeah,

674
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: Like that's a Hall of Fame quarterback.

675
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: You're offense, you're not doing anything a to help your

676
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: defense out by throwing the football every stink in time,

677
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: you know, every every play. And I just I don't

678
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't think he he I think he's an excellent

679
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: offensive schemer, that I don't know that he is a

680
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: great head coach.

681
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: That's possible, because I will tell you that it's well

682
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: known that I'm not sure if it's still true. But

683
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: he was the Shanahan of his time where everybody studied

684
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: him all off season. And that's fine, and that's great,

685
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: and they won a ton of games with the Saints.

686
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: This last couple of years is not doing his case

687
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: any favorite.

688
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: I mean, say what you will about you know, Andy Reid,

689
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: even when Andy Reid wasn't winning super Bowls, was his

690
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: team's always won and their off the offense was always

691
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: you know, something you know that you know you could

692
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: expect something different from it, but they were always like

693
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: they always won games like he hasn't consistently won every year. No.

694
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: And the other thing is he didn't trade for Wilson,

695
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: and that's when good down is one of the worst

696
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: trades in any you know, department, But he signed on

697
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: with it well into So I think this is an

698
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: absolutely pivotal year for him what he does with Nicks.

699
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: But I bet it's not gonna be good good. It

700
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: might not be terrible because their rosters horrific. And I

701
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: hate to say this because I don't know it's to

702
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: be true, but he wasn't super interesting coming back and coaching,

703
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: and then the people at inn Walmart gave him a

704
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: blank check and he decided to take it. Might his

705
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: heart not be in it as much as his wallet is,

706
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

707
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, maybe fifteen is Mike McDaniel, and I

708
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: think that's a very similar conversation to Peyton. I thought

709
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 2: he'd be high because these guys, Yeah, these guys are

710
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 2: great offensive minds. Nobody's taking that away from him. That's

711
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: why they got their head coaching jobs. But they really

712
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: just completely, oh, we don't need this guy. We don't

713
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: need Christian will you know, just let.

714
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: These guys walk team building and like, they're not the

715
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: type of guys that grind out the one score games

716
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 3: when you don't have a quarterback, right, you know, I mean,

717
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: we'll get to those guys, you know.

718
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: Like, to me, that's part of being a good head coaches,

719
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: right is being able to win either way.

720
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 3: And because they're such in demand and offensive masterminds are

721
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: so hard to find. If either one of those guys

722
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: are unemployed tomorrow they get they have a job, they'd

723
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: have a million calls, you know, there would.

724
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: But I mean Cliff Kingsbury get another right.

725
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, a good example. But I love what they do

726
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: on offense. I mean there's schemers though. Yeah, there's a

727
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: difference between being a schemer and a head coach.

728
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: Fourteen is Jim Harball with the Chargers.

729
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: I probably would have him high. I mean he's had success, Yeah,

730
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: he wins. I don't know how much the Michigan stuff

731
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: I would use in his favor, but it's not nothing.

732
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: Thirteen is Kevin O'Connell with the Vikings.

733
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: I'm super impressed.

734
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: I thought they get really I kicked their coverage last year.

735
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: I think his demeanor, the way he handles things, the

736
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: schemes defers DLREZ, which I think is smart. You know,

737
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: sometimes you got to know you don't know. I think

738
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: they got their guy.

739
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: Twelve is Shane Steichen with the Colts.

740
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: I'd have a little win complete for me.

741
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: I'd have O'Connell over him.

742
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd probably even have Peyton and McCarthy over him.

743
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: I mean I thought he did good things, but they

744
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: were kind of a disaster. I mean, Jeff Saturday as

745
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: a head coach not that long for you almost forget that.

746
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: So he stabilized the ship in Rocky Waters. We'll see

747
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: what he does this year, especially he is Richardson for

748
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: most of the year.

749
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: Eleven Kevin Stefanski with the Browns.

750
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: Well, if you noticed all four AFC north Ones are

751
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: starting now, they're all gonna be in the top eleven.

752
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

753
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: I think he's a good coach. I mean, he's one

754
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: Coach of the Year twice.

755
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: They won what ten not deservedly, but I hear you.

756
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: I mean what he does with Watson is going to

757
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: be critical, but that's the owner making the Watson trade,

758
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: not him.

759
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's proper tennis. Sean McDermott.

760
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's gonna be questions, you know, can can

761
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: you you're hitting your head on the ceiling with the McDermott.

762
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: Can you only get us that far?

763
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? People forget though. When he got there, they were bad, bad,

764
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: bad bad with awful cap situation and like hadn't been

765
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: to the playoffs in twenty years.

766
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: And you know, I mean like Sammy Watkins was their

767
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 3: only good player. I mean like they had bad bad.

768
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: Nine DeMeco Ryans with the Texans, I guess, but that's

769
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 2: one year, one year, one year, and yeah, you've got

770
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: having two of the top three picks in the draft.

771
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they both were rookies of the Year and you

772
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: were the Rookie of the year coach. Basically, Now, let's

773
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: see when you're playing Monday night football and got the

774
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: bulls eye on. But he's an impressive person.

775
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I it's fine. Eight is Dan Campbell.

776
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm cool with it. I mean, I do think

777
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 3: some of the fourth down stuff that he got criticized

778
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: for is proper. You know, you can get a little

779
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: ahead of his skis and maybe he needs to reel

780
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: it in a little bit, but players certainly play for him.

781
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with the Lions and Campbell. I think

782
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: this year we'll see if he coaches it differently because

783
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: last year they were the hunter. Yeah yeah, yeah, now

784
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 2: they're the hunted.

785
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: A little bit like the Texas.

786
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: Yes, now you know you okay, you made it to

787
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game. You know you've got a good roster.

788
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: Do you need to games that's a losing right bad?

789
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: Do you need to take as many chances as you

790
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: did when you were a team looking to get over that.

791
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 3: Hump and proved to your team that I'm going to

792
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 3: do anything that can to win. And you know, let's

793
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 3: bight knees and all that good stuff. I mean, he'd

794
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: be fun to cover, like, oh yeah, I mean he'd

795
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: be I'd love to be around him all the time.

796
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: I think he's a good coach, But when it comes

797
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 3: down to it, can he out scheme Belichick and read

798
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: and you know what I mean?

799
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: Not to worry about Belichick anymoy now, but like the

800
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: big dogs, uh seven, Zach Taylor with the Bengals a

801
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: lot of wins. I thought he did a good job

802
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, holding that thing together. I mean it

803
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: went nine to eight last year and Burrow missed a

804
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 2: significant amount of time, got.

805
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: A fair amount out of Browning, defense was bad, and

806
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: they still won games. I'm coming around on him. I

807
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: mean I think he's you're allowed him, as we say

808
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: with players, you're allowed to I think he's a lot

809
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: better now than he was those first couple of years.

810
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: And frankly, I thought it was Burrow's team and still

811
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: does you know.

812
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: I mean this was a situation where not only was

813
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: he learning on the job, but everybody on his staff

814
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: was a young guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, he brought in

815
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: He'd like there weren't many veteran coaches on his staff,

816
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: So they were kind of learning together as a staff, and.

817
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: I think it's going the proper direction.

818
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: And they fell into Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.

819
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like so remember that year everyone was tanking for Tua.

820
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: If by chance the Bengals with first overall pick to Tua,

821
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: I don't think he'd be hating Ed.

822
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: I don't think you know, And I don't think we've

823
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: talked much whether Josh McDaniels was or not. Josh McDaniels,

824
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniels six, John Harball with the Ravens.

825
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, I'm not gonna say he's an all

826
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: time great, but I think he's going to the Hall

827
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: of Fame if he quits today.

828
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: I don't know about that.

829
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: I think him and Tomlin and Carol Reid sports Belichick,

830
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: I think they're in if they hang it up.

831
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 2: Five.

832
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur with the Packers definitely underrated. I used to

833
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: think he was a product of Rogers and all that,

834
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: but he won thirteen games, like three years in a row.

835
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: What they did with Love I don't know about have

836
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 3: him over Harbob, but I mean I get it.

837
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, for Kyle Shanahan with the forty nine ers.

838
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: I think that's proper to put him like one or

839
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: two is a little harsh, I think, yeah.

840
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, people forget you know, he had.

841
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: He had a good first season there. Next year they

842
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: had a losing record.

843
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: I think they had second pick in the draft.

844
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: Second picking, Yeah, second picking the draft, losing rebel apart, right, Yeah,

845
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: so kind of a product of what they've built around.

846
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: He might also have the best roster in the league.

847
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't hurt.

848
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

849
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: Three Mike Tomlin.

850
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he's top five all day long.

851
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: And he lists you consider the write up was pretty blid.

852
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 3: That's the only one I read.

853
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Two is Sean McVay.

854
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: I have great respect. I mean another one, like we

855
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: talked about what the Cardinals were three on sixty five

856
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: days ago. The Rams looked like Stafford cup Donald and

857
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: a bunch of people I'd never heard of, including Pooka

858
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: and Akoup at the time. You know, like he made

859
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: them pretty darn competitive.

860
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: And then one is Andy Reid.

861
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's become the new ballotchick where he's clearly won,

862
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 3: you know at this stage. I mean the body of work,

863
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: his Eagles. Stuff's awesome, right, He's won a ton of games. Yeah,

864
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: And I know people, there's probably even some young listeners

865
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: that don't remember him as the Eagles head coach. But

866
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: he had Bobby Hoying and Kevin Hobb and I mean

867
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: McNabb for a while. But it wasn't like you got

868
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: the most out Alex Smith. I'm just saying, like non

869
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: Mahomes quarterbacks, he won a lot of games within his canner. Yeah.

870
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: I mean he's got a winning record without Mahomes for sure,

871
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 3: right right, Yeah.

872
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I get it. And you know Tomlin

873
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: is right there in that top five clearly. I don't

874
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: care who's ranking them right right. If he's not in

875
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: the top five, that doesn't add up to me at all. Yeah.

876
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,959
Speaker 2: If if you don't have him in your top five,

877
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: you're probably looking through things in a very you don't

878
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: watch enough of the other teams.

879
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that, or you have it out

880
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: for the guy and you're just very negative on coach Tomlin.

881
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

882
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: The other thing too, folks, And this is true in

883
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: any city we could broadcast in. You're going to be

884
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: the microscope on the local head coach times a thousand.

885
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: I mean, every every decision is you know, I mean,

886
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: if you look at it, and I know people talk about, well,

887
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, the Steelers have only won three playoff games

888
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: since since the twenty ten since they went to the

889
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: Super And I get it. That's that's fact. That's a fact.

890
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 2: It's legit. Hardball hasn't won much in the playoffs since

891
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: they won their last Super Bowl.

892
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: Either here's Peyton or you mentioned or something.

893
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: He's got He's got a two time MVP at quarterback

894
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: these the last four, you know.

895
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: Four years, so pathetical Steelers don't draft Edmonds and they

896
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: draft Lamar? Is Tomlin one on this list? Is he

897
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 3: two on this list? Right? Not lower?

898
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean you know, again, hindsight's twenty twenty on that,

899
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: of course. And I can remember doing a mock draft

900
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: that year where I had them picking Lamar Jackson. Yeah,

901
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: and I can tell you a lot of Steeler fans.

902
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: I got a lot of pushback on that.

903
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: That's late career Ben. He wouldn't have to play right away,

904
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: I mean, right, I.

905
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: Mean I got a lot of pushback on it. I

906
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: get it. You know, it's twenty eighteen. Ben's coming off

907
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: a pretty good season like.

908
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: But at that point Ben was probably thirty five.

909
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: Thirty six maybe yeah yeah, So like.

910
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: The Jets draft on Lamar right now right established quarterback,

911
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: but I wanting to be there.

912
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: Right So anyways, that's a touchdown. Wire ranking Mike Tomlin

913
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: number three, not Matt and Dale, but we certainly don't

914
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: disagree with that. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

915
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: You're listening to the driver here on Steelers Nation Radio.

916
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more

917
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: right after this.

918
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

919
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

920
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

921
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale LOLLI. He is the Matt Williamson

922
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: and Matt with With Mini Camp being this week, I

923
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: can't help but notice because I specifically remember when we

924
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: were at mini camp last year. Yeah, lantern flies everywhere, yeah,

925
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: very much, And around our building here in Bridgeville there

926
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: were lantern flies. This was this was like lantern fly

927
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: island up there mountain, up on top of the hill

928
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: here and not a single lantern.

929
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: Fly, a single lantern fly. I don't elegict behind that.

930
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 3: It was the last It's not like with the bugs

931
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: that come out every seventeen years or nonsense. The locus locus, Yeah,

932
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: it was a s word. Last year wasn't like the

933
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: big year, right, No, they're here to stay.

934
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not seeing any this year. It reminds

935
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: me of zero. So I've seen over the years, you know,

936
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: because the Steelers have a big there's a deck. You

937
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: got the opening there, the fields, the fields are there.

938
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: You're in on the river, on the Monongahela, the ver

939
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: they can Yeah, there's lots of good trees.

940
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

941
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: So we've seen invasions of like stink bugs, and we've

942
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: seen there's some wildlife down there. I've seen invasions of

943
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: those little they're not lady bugs, but they look like

944
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: lady bugs. I don't know if those what are called

945
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: lay over the years, and that you see them all

946
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: over the place down there. Well last year it was

947
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: the lantern flies and they were everywhere everywhere.

948
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not seeing them this year and really stuck.

949
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: Holme is here at the station. Yeah, I mean you

950
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: walked in. We said joking like I got twenty on

951
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: the way.

952
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: I can remember, like when we're not broadcasting down there,

953
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: this year because of the construction. But I can remember,

954
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: you know, broadcasting down there last year and they're being

955
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: lantern flies everywhere.

956
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we're broadcasting. What's this flying venomous spider thing?

957
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 3: I keep reading there were those better not show up

958
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: from the changer.

959
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dale's out. We don't need any venomous spiders, you know,

960
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: flying around.

961
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: Through the at least harmless, right, just annoying. And there's

962
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: they want you to crush them.

963
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. It's a little game.

964
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: Oh you get quite a few, you want them to

965
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: get like six and one steps.

966
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: And I can you know, like they were in the

967
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: like in the padding and stuff around the goalposts and

968
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: they're everywhere. Yeah, yeah, I can remember like there was

969
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: just all like standing there and all of a sudden,

970
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 2: you like hitting your in the head.

971
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. And on the way in here, if you go

972
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 3: right past the front door, there's a trash can. Oh

973
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: they love that area. There was a million of them

974
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 3: over there. But don't know, it's weird. Maybe someone could

975
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: chime in, where are they are?

976
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: They have they gone for that entomology We're going an

977
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: entomologists out there. They can tell us, Uh, did they

978
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: all go north?

979
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: Did they all die? Are they not coming back by

980
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: the south? I mean, but I don't know.

981
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: I don't think it was a particularly cold winner.

982
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: But right, I think I used a shovel twice this year.

983
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't mean they didn't get cold.

984
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I don't know.

985
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 2: No lantern flies.

986
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: I'm not going to coach us up. Why is that, folks?

987
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: But I used to used to be making a little

988
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: game when we walked into the from our cars into here.

989
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: How many?

990
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: How many can could you step on.

991
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: On the way? Rush of time?

992
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's because we did our job so

993
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 2: well stepping on the lantern flies.

994
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: Well, maybe they sent word to other lantern flies don't

995
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: go to that neighborhood anymore, yea, because you're gonna get

996
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: squashed by size twelve shoes. Questioning enoughhelin, Right, so I thirteen,

997
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: I think you're even I'm taller new but I think

998
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: you're bigger feet than I. I'm only a twelve A

999
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: little bit.

1000
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: That means I get bigger shoes, bigger shoes. Yeah, so

1001
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: you know, you can kind of pass the seasons like that.

1002
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: But this will be the last week that we'll see

1003
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: the Steelers on the field until they hit training camp

1004
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: and at the end of July, and.

1005
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: How long a stretches that. So they opened it like

1006
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: six seven something like that.

1007
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: The twenty fourth is reporting dad seven.

1008
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: But maybe that's first practice. Okay, so we got about

1009
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: six weeks then huh yeah, I have a vacation plan

1010
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: at that point. So there will be stretch where a

1011
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: couple of days days, we're not going to be here

1012
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: next week. But all in all, we'll keep churning stuff out.

1013
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely and uh, you know, find things to write about,

1014
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: find storylines and things of that nature to to come

1015
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: up with here.

1016
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: But the Tomlin News is a big one.

1017
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: The Tomlin that's the that's the first signing. We can

1018
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 2: also expect a Cam Hayward extend extension, and that one's

1019
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 2: people are looking at this like they're extending it. They're

1020
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: going to extend him and make him like the highest

1021
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: paid defensive tackling right right right all that what they

1022
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: do by extending him now is and what it will

1023
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: probably be. They could even make it like a four

1024
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: year extension or a three year extension with some with

1025
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: some voidable years and things of that nature. This is

1026
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: going to help the Steelers too. This is not just

1027
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: about you know, Hayward's contract, right, I would imagine he's

1028
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: going to make about what he makes per year. Yeah,

1029
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: because he's.

1030
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 3: You're not going to give him a pay cut, right,

1031
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: but inflation's gone up, but his age has also gone up.

1032
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: Right now, he's a he's a twenty two point four

1033
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: million dollar cap hit this year.

1034
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: Okay, he has to get that down if you need it.

1035
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: He has a base salary of sixteen million dollars, so

1036
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: they can probably lower that twenty two point four million

1037
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: dollar cap hit with an extension.

1038
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: This year, Oh definitely, and still get him.

1039
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: You know, you tack on a couple of voidable years

1040
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: at the end of whatever whatever contract extent, you can

1041
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: get him probably around twenty million a year for the

1042
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: next two years after this one.

1043
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: I was guessing he'll maybe pull in sixty to sixty

1044
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 3: five over the course of a couple of years.

1045
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but with some of those voidable years

1046
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: at the end of it, you you get out of

1047
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: if he falls off. It's not it's not that big

1048
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: of a deal here and right now. I mean, if

1049
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: you look at their salary structure, what is third two

1050
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: point four million cap hit this year, Heyward is twenty

1051
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: two point four, making Fitzpatrick is twenty one to three,

1052
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: and then it drops off down. Next up is Larry

1053
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: Ogunjobi at thirteen to two.

1054
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean they've only got they have less guaranteed

1055
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 3: money than I think any team in the league.

1056
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: They've only got six guys who are making ten million,

1057
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: who have a cap hit of ten million or more.

1058
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: In today's economy, that's like nothing, that's nothing.

1059
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 2: You know, you look at somebody, you know, the Chargers

1060
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: that you know we're going into this past they had

1061
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: like six guys were over twenty million.

1062
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they had like thirteen and over

1063
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: ten Yeah. I mean this when the season ended after

1064
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: the year. So again when I say they have less

1065
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: guaranteed money, I mean in all future years combined money

1066
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 3: that they owe that is definitely getting paid out is

1067
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 3: very very low compared to the rest of the league,

1068
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 3: which gives them massive cap flexibility. They do have space

1069
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: this year. You could make more with cam or other

1070
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: moves if you needed and even if you don't need it,

1071
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: you can make it and roll it over, right. I

1072
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: mean there's a lot of options here, there really are,

1073
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: and so we'll see that get done, very very cap happy,

1074
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: right now.

1075
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see that get done, and we probably

1076
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: see Pat Freremouth.

1077
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: I would think, so get a new deal, and there'd

1078
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: be some small things, maybe you signed Golden or something

1079
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: along those lines. I Mean, the only big move I

1080
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: even think is a possibility is if you were to

1081
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: trade for a monster receiver. I mean, that's the only

1082
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: thing to be and if you wanted to, right, yeah,

1083
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: you can afford to do that. You could trade for

1084
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Speaker 3: Auker Metcalf or somebody like that.

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Speaker 2: Financially, if you look at next year's right now, in

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Speaker 2: terms of pure cap space for next year, it's ninety

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Speaker 2: one point three million dollars.

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Speaker 3: There's like three or four ahead of my THNK.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's fourth most in the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the year after I think they're number one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like now they don't have as many guys

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Speaker 2: under contract.

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Speaker 3: But no, you know, but you're also going to draft

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Speaker 3: seven more guys next year, right right, And.

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Speaker 2: As you know, so they give a one year deal,

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Speaker 2: they've got flexibility here to do some things.

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Speaker 3: The massive flex ability you know, other teams just don't.

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Speaker 3: Whether that's giving it to Russell Wilson after the year,

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Speaker 3: go in and get a quarterback sign t Higgins. Just

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Speaker 3: keep investing in your own whatever you want. It's just

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Speaker 3: you have a lot of aces in your hands. You

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Speaker 3: can play whenever you want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, So those are some of the things we'll

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Speaker 2: see happen maybe over not necessarily over the next six weeks,

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Speaker 2: because they may some of that stuff might happen early

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Speaker 2: in training camp too.

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Speaker 3: And Cam Hayward's gonna go on vacation and fire going

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Speaker 3: vacation and hey, we see each other eleven and a

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Speaker 3: half months of the year.

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Speaker 2: We'll get it done the agent and they'll be talking

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Speaker 2: with the agent, you know, and they'll they'll, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe had the parameters worked out, Yeah, and announce that,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the first couple of days of training camp.

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Speaker 2: Because to your point when you brought that up last week,

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Speaker 2: it's good for morale.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's great. Like the dog days when

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Speaker 3: everyone's dragging a little bit, to see your buddy get

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Speaker 3: the boost he deserves, ripples all through the locker room

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Speaker 3: and through the whole organization. I mean, it's just a

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Speaker 3: different feel that day in the day after.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you there's nobody in that locker room, which

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Speaker 2: is all they can't They can't resign Cam.

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Speaker 3: No, and I'm sure most of them would love to

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Speaker 3: see Friar move back and nobody's capable of. But Cam's

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Speaker 3: a different story, like it'd be more. I can't believe

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Speaker 3: that even consider letting him play for another team, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, which I don't think is ever gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see that happening either. Yeah, let's get

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Speaker 2: to another break. That's going to do it for our

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Speaker 2: number one of the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be back with our number two of

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Speaker 2: the drive right after this