1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: On the Dog Cast, the questions asked if movies have 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: husbands or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef in 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: best start changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hello and 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin Darante. 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: My name is Jamie Loftus, and we talk about how 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: women are represented in film and the podcasts were listening to. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Which is the Vectel Cast? We use the Bechtel Test. 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Ever heard of it? No? What is it? It's a test? 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: Episode ninety Jamie learns what the Bechtel tests. That reminds 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: me of um. This show that he's been DIDNY channel 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: called Dog with a Blog And the first episode I 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: ever watched it's like season two, episode thirty five, and 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: it was like the people learned the dog as a blog. 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: It's like deep into season two that anyone becomes aware 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: that the blog everyone in town has been reading has 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: been written by a dog. It's a real wow. I 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: think that there's like an R rated version of that 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: that I think would be really compelling. Anyways, what is 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: the Bactel Test? I don't know what I don't know 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: what it is. Does the dog in this show identify 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: as any particular gender? Yes, you can't get a television 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: show unless you're a male identifying dog. Okay, So in 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: that case, the conversation we just had about the dog 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: with a blog does not pass the Bactel test because 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: we were talking about a male identifying figure. Um. So 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: the Bactel test requires that a movie, let's say that 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: you're watching, has to have two female identifying characters. They 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: have to speak to each other, and that conversation that 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: they have cannot be about a man. Let's try it. Okay, 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Hey Caitlin, Hey Jamie Bucket, hats are back, Jamie. I 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: would have to disagree. We did. We did. That's that passed. 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: The Bactel test doesn't pass the rules of fashion, but 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: it does pass. Yes. So anyway, we are here as 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: we always are with a guest. Um. She is a 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: filmmaker and she is the co host of the Ethnically 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Ambiguous podcast on How Stuff Works. Sharine Lonnie Unite. Hi, Hi, 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: So you brought us Aladdin? I brought you a Laddin 39 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: Disney's nineteen ninety two Aladdin. Yes, it's a sentimental treasure 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: of mine. I watched it again yesterday. It was just magical. Yeah, 41 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it in a couple years, but it's 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: still bangs for me. I still, I mean, there's like, 43 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's infinity things to unpack about. What a 44 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: fun movie. It's a great movie. It was the introduction 45 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: to Robin Williams, the same catapult in my obsession with him. 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: The songs are fun and the lyrics are kind of 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: weird sometimes, but as a kid, you didn't know that 48 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: that's an adult, right, there's a lot of weird. Well, 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: there's like and this has nothing to do with our 50 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: discussion on gender, and this is the point where people 51 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: listening or are going to our iTunes page and being 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: like they don't talk about it in exopt But seriously, 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: there's so much like self referential Disney ship in this 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: movie that is like kind of unusual for Disney movies. 55 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: Like there there's a reference to a Little Mermaid, There's 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: there's a goofy at the end. Yeah, it almost feels 57 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: like a DreamWorks movie vibe where they're so they don't 58 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: give a fuck there, they're just like, oh yeah, this 59 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: is a new Shrek movie. But also Boss Baby and 60 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, sure, whatever. I can't think of a 61 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: ton of other specific examples aside from there's a moment 62 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: in Zootopia where they do some self referential stuff. But 63 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: I feel like that's not that uncommon for Disney. I 64 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: feel like they put a little like Easter eggs in 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: Easter Eggs. But I mean, I feel like the ones 66 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: in this movie and just like reference culture in general 67 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: is especially. I don't hate it at all, it's just 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: like kind of unusual for this that's true. Yeah. Anyways, 69 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: So Sharine, what is your hist with this movie? Your relationship? 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: I know you love it. Did you grow up with it? 71 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: I did so. I'm Arab, I'm Syrian, and as a 72 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: kid you had one thing to relate to, and it 73 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: was a ladd and if you were a real Eastern, 74 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: I grew up an older I have two sisters, and 75 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: my older sisters she's a year and have older than me, 76 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: and so we would grow up watching the same movies 77 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: and she would always relate to, like the princesses and stuff, 78 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: and like she was she was aerial, and she was 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: Jasmine and Belle, and I was always the animal sidekick. 80 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: I was Raja or flounder or I loved it. I 81 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: was like, I can't wait to be an animal like 82 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: peek younger siblings exactly sweet. But as a Middle Eastern kid, 83 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: you watch Aladdin, I don't know, do you automatically like 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: it just because it's like I'm represented at least a 85 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: little bit, even though it's all by like it's by 86 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: a white company, by with white voice actors, and but 87 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: they'll say like praise Allah or like even a Laddin 88 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: at one point says like my esteemed offendi and theffendi 89 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: means like friend, and like, as an Arab you know 90 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: what that means, like you you like, or like you'll 91 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: see Arabic on the on the on the screen and 92 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: you'll be like, I know, I know how to read that. 93 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: And so watching Aladdin as a Middle Eastern girl, it 94 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: felt like I was like, oh, I've seen now. That's 95 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: why I was especially pissed when they were casting the 96 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: live action movie of Aladdin. I thought like, this was 97 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: like a chance for like a Middle Eastern actress to 98 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: get her chance in the cast. Have Indian have white girl? 99 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: So I haven't. I haven't been keeping up with the 100 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: casting for that movie. Is there a Laddins Egyptian, which 101 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: is which is acceptable to me, but I just think, like, 102 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: and then the argument was like Acaba is made up, 103 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: it's a real place in the Middle East, Like yeah, 104 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: I understand that, but also when else will will a 105 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: Middle Eastern actress and get her chance if not for 106 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: fucking Aladdin? You know, so, and it's Middle Eastern culture 107 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: that's being referenced the whole time, so it's like the 108 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: whole time. That's not really a valid argument. Yeah, And 109 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: even like how the bread looks like in the in 110 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: the cartoon and everything, it's very like like that's how 111 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: looks like in Syria when my grandpa would come back 112 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: from the market, Like it's like these like yeah me 113 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: loaves of bread or like the bizarre. It would be 114 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: like something I would relate to. And obviously it's like 115 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: an ancient time, and like Syria wasn't like that ancient 116 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: when I was when I would visit there, But there 117 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: are little references that you can relate to, and like, um, 118 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: there are similarities that are just like you can't ignore. 119 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: And it felt cool as a kid knowing that was 120 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: my movie and it was a great movie, and it 121 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: was like that's another thing. Um. And then there was 122 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: also a Supernintendo video game of Aladdin that we were 123 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: obsessed with, and it was like walk you through the 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: whole thing, and you would like eat apples and that 125 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: was like your life supported on the side, like how 126 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: many apples you had, and like so many of the 127 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: genie The genie level was like really hard and getting 128 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: out of a cave of wonders is really fun. And 129 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing me and my sisters was just nerds 130 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: that loved the lad and loved the video game and 131 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: defined a lot of our childhood for sure. Yeah yeah, yeah, 132 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's so unfortunate that like that was 133 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: your one choice, like an Arab girl growing up, like 134 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: this is like my one chance to see myself represented. 135 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: It's wild. Um. It also resonated with white kids because 136 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: I also loved this movie growing up. Not yeah, not 137 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: for the same reasons as you, but I was just like, 138 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, the genie is funny and I love 139 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, so um yeah, I also grew up with 140 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: this movie. I think I don't know if I saw 141 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: it in the theater. I was six when it came out, 142 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: but um, we had this on VHS. I watched it 143 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: all the time. I watched it last night for the 144 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: first time in a while, but I still had so 145 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: many things memorized, like it just comes back to you. 146 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: Songs even a little like words in the middle of 147 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: a song. They're just like random, Like it's just everything 148 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: comes back to you just because you've seen it, like 149 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: it's ingrained in your memory. So I can there's like 150 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: certain songs that I can not only did I not 151 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: realize that I had fully memorized, but I can also 152 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: hear like my little brother at five singing it like 153 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: with me when I hear yeah, because my brother used 154 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: to sing friend like Me very loud, and I remember 155 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: pushing him into a wall once and his tooth got 156 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 1: loose because he was singing friend like Me too loud. 157 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: That's a really lovely memory. I want a beautiful shout 158 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: out to be The Genie was like my hero character. 159 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: I loved him so much, and I loved Dropping Williams 160 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: after I saw that movie, and I always think about 161 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: like actors now like comedians that decided to do children's movies, 162 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: like the kids that are growing up with them probably 163 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: are getting introduced to them for the first time the 164 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: same way I was induced to Robin Williams and so 165 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: I really love the roll. Williams did that and he 166 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: was just so funny, and I love the genie. And 167 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: my second favor character was the carpet because I'm a weirdo. 168 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: The carpet rules. The carpet is so cute, has a 169 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: big personality, even the carpets of a boy. Aladdin genders 170 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: the carpet right away, and it's like, how could you know? 171 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: How could you know best? The carpet is a genderless icon. 172 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: I agree, Jamie. What's your history with Aladdin? Exactly the same. 173 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: It's just I watched it five hundred times and then 174 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: I pushed my brother into a wall. Yeah, that was 175 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: the one to Prince we had. We never pushed us 176 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: something into a wall, maybe over different reasons. Yeah. Shall 177 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: I do their recap? So, okay, we open on Jaffar. 178 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: He's my crunish. We do need to unpack why Jaffar 179 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: is your crash, but we will get into that. Um So, 180 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: there's this bad, sinister looking man named Jaffar and he's 181 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: trying to get into the Cave of Wonders to get 182 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: this magic lamp and he's not able to do it 183 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: because like the guy he recruited is is he not 184 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: good enough? Unworthy? So then we meet Aladdin and he 185 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: and his pet monkey slash best friend. A boo also 186 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: means father of an Arabic which always confused me, Like 187 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: do you know how like in European countries like Johnson 188 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: is like the son of John and in the Middle East, 189 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: like a nickname will call someone by is like father 190 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: of the oldest child they have, So like my father 191 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: is a Buddha in me, which is like my my 192 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: sister's name is Raymi, or like a boo whatever is 193 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: like their nickname. So as a kid, the fact that 194 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,479 Speaker 1: the monkey was named like dad, always that's so weird. 195 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: Never understood it anyways, Sorry, who is all of our fathers? 196 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: What does that make sense to me? So he and 197 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: a boo they are poor, they have to steal their food, 198 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: and they're always in trouble with the law. Then we 199 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: meet Jasmine and she is the princess. Her father is 200 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: the Sultan, and he is trying to marry her off 201 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: because laws, because laws. The law says that she has 202 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: to be married to a prince by her next birthday, 203 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: which is in three days. We also don't know how 204 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: old she is. They never specifive. I feel like, intentionally 205 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: I think so too. They're like, she looks sixteen, but 206 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,359 Speaker 1: if anyone asks, she's five. Also, the Saltan is adorable, 207 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: such a bumbling idiot such he is shuffling around like 208 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: I want to one of those I don't know if 209 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: there's like a formal word for it, but like those 210 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: things where it's like a cartoon without it's like, I 211 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: guess we do see him in his underwear. I'm like, 212 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: I feel like his legs would be like a wild shape, 213 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: but they're regular. Yeah, he's wearing like Boxer's heart shaped Boxer. 214 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: I retract that statement. I was like, I wish we 215 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: knew what the Sultan was like without his clothes on, 216 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: but the movie actually does know. That's my first wish. 217 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: I want to see the Salton naked. Um. And then 218 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: it's also around here that we learn that Jaffar is 219 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: the Sultans, that he's not hot, but he is the 220 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: Sultan's like royal advisor. He's rasputant of the sult like 221 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: he's anyways sorry um So, then Jafar learns that Aladdin 222 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: is the person he needs to enter the Cave of 223 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: Wonders to retrieve this lamp for him, so he basically 224 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: tricks him. Chose a one narrative, so he tricks Aladdin 225 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: into going and getting this lamp and and so doing, 226 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: Aladdin meets the Magic Carpet, he gets the lamp. Jaffar 227 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: portrays him, but like Jaffar does not in disguise, yes, 228 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: because because the boot steals the lamp back. Yeah yeah, yeah, 229 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: he's a little pickpocket. But they're so they're now trapped 230 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: in the Cave of Wonders, but they have the lamps. 231 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: So that we meet the Genie big number right us 232 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: For me, it's so fun. I watched it twice. So fun, 233 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: so good. So now the Genie is Aladdin's master. No, 234 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: Aladdin is the genies master. Yes, he's granted three wishes 235 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: for his first wish. He's like, m oh, I forgot 236 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: the part where Aladdin and Jasmine meets. So Jasmine runs 237 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: away because she's like, I'm not going to marry anyone. 238 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't want my choices made for me. I'm going 239 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: to run away from home. So she meets Aladdin in 240 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: the marketplace and they fall basically instantly in love. But 241 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: Aladdin gets taken away and like under arrest. And then Jasmine, 242 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: who was like I'm going to run away forever, returns 243 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: to her palace literally that night. Yeah, after saying I'll 244 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: never go back there. That's how my only trying to 245 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: run away from home scheme went when I was thirteen 246 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: to literally walked to my aunt's house. She drove me 247 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: on three hours later. Right, Okay. So then for m 248 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: Aladdin's first wish, He's like, wow, I really love this princess. 249 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: But the Genie's like, I can't make anyone fall in 250 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: love with anyone else. So Aladdin's like, what if you 251 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: make me a prince that way? I haven't had her in. 252 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: What if I gaslight this woman into falling in love 253 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: with me? So Genie turns him into a prince, and 254 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: he comes parading into her life, being like, oh my god, 255 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: like Prince Ali another great number, Any any any song 256 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: with the Genie is a blast. It's so good. It's 257 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: so good. So then he, you know, eventually kind of 258 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: wins her over because at first she's just like I 259 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: don't want you. You're one of these other stuffy suitors. 260 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: No thanks, But then he reminds her of the boy 261 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: that she met in the marketplace, ak Aladdin, because that 262 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: is who he is. She has eyes and she has eyes. 263 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: But he's like, no, that wasn't me, but you're pretty great, 264 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: so let's hang out and she's like okay, fine. Meanwhile, 265 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: Jaffar gets wind that Prince Alie is just Aladdin with 266 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: the lamp, so he tries to kill him, and then yeah, 267 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: I forgot that, like of the few like moments that 268 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: I did not remember about this movie at all, I 269 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: forgot that they knock him out and throw him off 270 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: a cliff like to his death, like he has a 271 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: weight on his feet, and he's like pretty much did. Yeah. 272 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, was that truly necessary to 273 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: show us all of that? But and that's when Aladdin 274 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: uses his second wish to basically have the Genie stave 275 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: him from dying. And he had promised the Genie that 276 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: he was like, you know what for my third wish, 277 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: I promised to set you free so that you're not 278 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: my slave anymore. And the Genie's like, okay, great, I 279 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: hope that happens. And then there's a moment where Aladdin's like, actually, 280 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: they want to make me sultan, so like I can't. 281 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I would love both from slavery, but I 282 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: actually need you to help me lie to a woman 283 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: for the rest of her life. And yes, it's like, 284 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: oh cool, cool, cool, cool cool. But then Jaffar steals 285 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: the lamp and then he uses it to like take 286 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: over Agriba. Honestly, Jaffar uses the lamp pretty wide, like 287 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: he leverages the lamp in a way of like, oh, yeah, Aladdin, 288 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: you fucking idiot, you're wishy, you're thinking small, you made 289 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: your monkey into an elephant. And then Jafar took over 290 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: the entire king in like two seconds. Yeah, he had 291 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: an agenda, he had a schedule to maintain. He's busy. 292 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: And then of course, like Aladdin's like, no, I'm not 293 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: gonna let this happen, so he goes and defeats Jaffar 294 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: after Jaffar tries to kill Aladdin with a series of 295 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: visual pun get from that point, Yeah, it's actually, yeah, 296 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm just getting warmed up. Breathe fire. So he turns 297 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: into a gigantic palace and then abuff Genie and then 298 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: he's defeated, right because Aladdin he convinces Jaffar to become 299 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: a genie, which will enable to him have to have 300 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: all the power in the world. He will then also 301 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: become enslaved because that's what being a genie is. So yeah, 302 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: missed a bunch of park. Also, the video game was 303 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: so fun because the final boss was like multiple levels, 304 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: like first it was Jafar, then it was him as 305 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: a snake, and then it was him a genie and 306 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: it was so that's so cool, so fun any nude sultan, darn, 307 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: he's not a boss. So yeah, Jafar gets defeated, and 308 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: then Aladdin learns the lesson to just be who you are, 309 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: and then he frees the genie. Jasmine still loves Aladdin 310 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: because she's like, you know, I always liked you when 311 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: you were poor, So that's this is fine. And then 312 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: and then Jasmine influences policy and changes the law so 313 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: that she can get married because that's her one function 314 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: in this story. He kiss bye bye, slur and good night. 315 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: So that is the movie. Let's take a quick break 316 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: and then we'll be back to have our discussion. And 317 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: we're back. Let's talk about the under politics of Aladdin. 318 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Oh it's also okay, please explain to me what about 319 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: Jaffar makes you have a crush on him or had crush. 320 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: This is true. This is like a real day where 321 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: it's like that is a crush I had so early 322 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: in my life before I fully understood what a crush 323 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: even was that I cannot tell you why I have 324 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: a crush on de Far. I just know I always have. 325 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: And I first of all, I will say, Aladdin has 326 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: no nipples. No, no, what is that about Jaffar? We 327 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: have to assume has nipples, So that's a point for him. 328 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't I really don't know. I just thought like 329 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: Jaffar was like really tall, as like he's so much 330 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: taller than Aladdin. So cool. I liked that he had 331 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: like his cool evil apartment, like his outfit. I like 332 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: his laugh, like his voice. You know. I just think 333 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: that there were redeeming things about Jaffar that warranted a crush. 334 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: But my cartoon crushes it was Jaffar, and it was 335 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: Peter Pan, it was John Smith. So I'm kind of 336 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: all over the j Smith John Smith boring motherfucker. Are 337 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: you serious? He's a He's a chiseled, boring motherfucker. I 338 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I've since grown up, and no, Coco Won 339 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: was far hotter than don't ask John Smith Coco was 340 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: hot though he was great. Yeah, a grown woman knows. 341 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: I like ptsc just remembering the necklace, like just breaking, goddamn, 342 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: never be the same. Sorry, this a lot so if 343 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: you boiled down this story. We've already hinted at this, 344 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: but it's basically a story about a man who the 345 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: second he gets access to just a little bit of power, 346 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: he uses it to gaslight a woman into thinking that 347 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: he's a prince in into falling in love with him. Right, Yeah, 348 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: you would argue that she's already interested in him, but 349 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: as Aladdin, so he should we just like get into Jasmine. Yeah, 350 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: because there's a there's like the one female character. You 351 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: mean that's gonna be the bulk of our discussion today. Yeah, 352 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: there were parts of Jasmine's character that I didn't like. 353 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: I didn't remember her being as headstrong as she is. 354 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of like really good lines from her. 355 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 1: I like that about her remember as a kid growing up, 356 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: being like she's kind of a badass, Like she tricked 357 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: her far even though she had to kiss him at it, 358 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: but like she still was like smart. And then she 359 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: has a line like the very beginning when she's like, 360 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: I have no friends except for you, my pet tiger, 361 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: who's I guess a girl. Um, So it's like this 362 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: lonely but somehow still smart, badass person that I was like, 363 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: You're not too bad. So I kind of liked it's 364 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: a kid that she wasn't like represented too flimsy, and 365 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: I also appreciate as a kid. I remember very distinctly 366 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: that they like that they made the salt In like 367 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: a softie. Yeah, to make him the typical angry Arab man. 368 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: That's yeah. And then like other I mean even like 369 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: pitted against other Disney princess father So I was thinking 370 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: about the Saltan versus King Triton was awful and violent 371 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: and wrecked all his daughter's stuff like scary and the 372 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: Saltan and I guess Bell's dad too. Yeah, Yes, had 373 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: similar character design when I think about it, A little 374 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: tiny plump little men who were like very but I'm 375 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: still sexist. Yeah, I love you, but also get married now. 376 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: And this is another example of a Disney princess without 377 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: a mother. Yes, mom only has a dad. A classic trope, 378 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: the Sultan makes one reference to her mom. He says 379 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: after Jasmine's like, I don't want to get married in 380 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: less than three days, and he's like her mother wasn't 381 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: nearly so picky, which I think is a little little 382 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: little dig it himself, because you look at Jasmine next 383 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: to the Sultan, you don't see a lot of saltan energy. 384 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: Gotta think she's got a hot money. But yeah, her 385 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: sole purpose is to I mean, now that I think 386 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: about it, a lot of Disney movies, that's the main 387 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: purpose of all the female characters, whether it's pocahonas Little 388 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Mermaid or like whatever. It's just like be obedient to 389 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: your father. It's kind of unfortunate that I just passion 390 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: in my head. Well, and like all the princess narratives 391 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: are very formulaic in that way, where, especially like during 392 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: the Disney Renaissance era, you see like princesses unlike Sleeping 393 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: Beauty who's knocked out for the whole movie, and Cinderella 394 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: who's like la la la, I don't know, maybe someone 395 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: will come and fix everything, you know, Like these princesses 396 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: have more identity and they're more headstrong. But by the 397 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: end of the movie, it's like there is some sort 398 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: of major compromise where they can still be themselves as 399 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: long as Daddy's happy, as long as they get married, 400 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: as long as like there's always like this caveat of 401 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like they like a Disney trying to 402 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: like keep their conservative values and try to push forward 403 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: a little bit, but ultimately sell backpacks every state lunch 404 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: boxes backpacks. Right as we were saying, like, if you 405 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: isolate Jasmine as a character, like the things that she says, 406 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: the stances that she takes, her intelligence and like being 407 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: able to figure things out and like read the people 408 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: around her, like I am not apprised to be one exactly. 409 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: She she doesn't want to be forced into marriage so 410 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: much so that she runs away from home, so she 411 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: like arguably has a little bit of agency. But then 412 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: she does return back to the palace less than twenty 413 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: four hours later, so um, you know there's that. But 414 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: like if you just isolate her, you're like, oh, yeah, 415 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: Like this is an admirable character. This is someone that 416 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: like little girls can look up to. But her purpose 417 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: in the story is still just to be Aladdin's love interest, 418 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: so she doesn't really have a function outside of that, 419 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: and the narrative does screw her over several different times, 420 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: especially by the end, where she's literally like the classic 421 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: lead female character benched during the climax of the movie 422 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: in some horrifying way. We've got Mary Jane in a web, 423 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: We've got Jasmine in an hour glass, We've got the 424 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: woman in Pacific room launched out of the scene. It's 425 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: like happens all the time in a series of visually 426 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: obnoxious ways. But the meg Hercules in the Underworld, Yes, 427 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: crushed by a column. They killed her, and then they're like, Okay, 428 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: Hercules is actually for you. It happens all the time. 429 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: And I think even in The Little Mermaid, Eric is 430 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: the one who like defeat. There's also some big similarities 431 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: between Ursula and Jaffar that I was noticing, where they 432 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: both go into disguise to trick someone. They both get 433 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: huge at the end of the movie and the end 434 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: of similarities. But well, they're also both coded gay the 435 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: way that many many Disney villains are. Yeah, but before 436 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: before we get there. So the one thing Jasmine is 437 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: allowed by the story to do before she's benched until 438 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: the movie is basically over, and then all she has 439 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: to do is married influence policy and then get married, 440 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: but she tricks Jafar. I Okay, I wasn't totally clear 441 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: on this. Does she see Aladdin? Is she just trying 442 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: to distract to far? Okay, Okay, so she she does that. 443 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: She's really smart. We've seen her like trick people before 444 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: and like distract and blah blah blah. But the story 445 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: makes her do it with her sexuality and also he 446 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: calls her pussy cat. Calls her pussy cat, which it's 447 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: just like my skin crawl, Like you just you don't 448 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: want to kiss a woman, Jafar. Let's just like and 449 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: what a gross And I forgot that they actually kissed. 450 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: And if you hear the background when she's like trying 451 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: to seduce him, she just keeps like saying these like 452 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: ridiculous things like the gap between your teeth and you're 453 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: so tall, like your eyebrows are so it's in your 454 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: beard is so she wish it's disturbing. But I liked 455 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: her because she was smart. Even when she first sees Aladdin, 456 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: he says like, do you trust me? And she already 457 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: knows it's him with the whole apple thing on the carpet, 458 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: like she already figured it out. It's all someoing like 459 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus like like it's obviously him, and even at 460 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: the beginning where she is like she leaves the palace 461 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 1: and goes to I was worried. I was like, oh, 462 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: I feel like Aladdin kind of rescues her. But in 463 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: the end it sort of ends up being this team 464 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: effort where he's you know, he swoops down, he falls 465 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: in love. At first side, he's like, oh, she's hot, 466 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: although I have theories about a latin that again too, 467 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: he like looks like he's like, oh, she's hot. Better 468 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: rescue her from this cop very anti cop movie, which 469 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: is oh sure, I thought you were talking about. The 470 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: moment in the marketplace where she does not know how 471 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: commerce works, so she's like, here, let me give you 472 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: this apple, little kid, I have to pay, and the 473 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: vendors like, um, excuse me, please pay for that, and 474 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: then he threatens to chop off her arm and kill 475 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: her right, and then um Aladdin has to swoop in 476 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: and save her, right. But then he like when he 477 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: says like, oh, this is my sister. She doesn't know. 478 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,239 Speaker 1: Jasmine does start to like play a long into it, 479 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: and he does say she's crazy, and then she has 480 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: to play along with being crazy because women be crazy obviously, right, 481 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: so seems believable. But but then she saves him, like 482 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: when when when the guard comes after him and she's 483 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: like unhand him. Yeah, by order of the princess. So 484 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I like, I like Latin and Jasmine's 485 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: relationships more than I like most. Yeah, like it seems 486 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: relatively balanced, balanced in comparable the fact that the movie 487 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: is called a Laddin right, well, he is the protagonist, 488 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: she is the love interest. He's pushing the narrative forward, 489 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: so she's she's just kind of like. She does make 490 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: some choices, but for the most part, things are just 491 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: sort of happening to her. Their romantic relationship is depicted 492 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: a little bit better than what we're used to seeing, 493 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: especially in Disney movies, where he does value her for 494 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: her looks, which he does say like when he's describing, 495 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: but it's the third thing he said. He does say 496 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: she's smart and she's fun and beautiful like um. And 497 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: then also whenever they're sort of like, he brings her 498 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: to his like studio apartment or whatever and exactly lives 499 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: near the reservoir, and they realize that they're starting to 500 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: like connect and like each other because they share a 501 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: similar experience, so they both feel trapped. So it's not 502 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: just that he finds her attractive. And I will also 503 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: say that this is one of the few movies where 504 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: she's like made to be less hot and he still 505 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: finds her attractive because she's wearing this like kind of 506 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: big like robe, and like her insane body type, which 507 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: we will talk about, is kind of covered up, so 508 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: he like he gets a glimpse of her like face 509 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: and her hair, and he's like, who's that. Yeah, but 510 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: that's something like as a kid, her body was very 511 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: like belly dancer like Mary, just like stereotypical like Middle 512 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: Eastern sexuality whatever, And that kind of made me I 513 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: never wanted to be Jasmine for Halloween because I, first 514 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: of all, was not allowed to wear those things, and 515 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: second of all, it was just like, I'm not that's 516 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: kind of just just too sexy for eight year old 517 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: to wear. Not. Yeah, I think she has like sexualized more. Yeah, 518 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: And I think it's because it's a middle I mean, 519 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: like maybe I'm biased, Like I think they exploited some 520 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: of the culture a little bit too much. Like even 521 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: the first verse of the Arabian night song. They say 522 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: it's barbaric, but hey, it's home like it's like you're 523 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: and then like cutting off a hand for stealing an 524 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: apple is just like the culture is either very barbaric 525 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: or very sexualized, or very just over the top exploitative, 526 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: sometimes just to serve the narrat And I see it 527 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: more now than I did back then. For sure, there's 528 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: a lot of things like that, Like the only characters 529 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: with accents are villain like there's all kinds of stuff 530 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: where it's very exploitative and like not necessarily painting Arabic 531 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: culture in a positive lay Ah. I thought another comparison 532 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: that I was like, oh, it is so different. The 533 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: way it's depicted in a Laddin is the one jump 534 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: ahead sequence is not entirely dissimilar from Bell walking through 535 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: her village at the beginning of Beauty and the Beast, 536 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, this is where we are, this 537 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: is what it's like here, and both sequences are like 538 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: depicting like a lower class community, but the way they 539 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: do it in Aladdin is way more violent, way more 540 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: like it's just it's it's very different. I'm glad you 541 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: brought that up. Because it's completely true. Even the side characters, 542 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: whether it's like some like matronly person like coming on 543 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: to Aladdin, like like, they're all very just unattractive people 544 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: in the marketplace or in the bizarre, in the whatever, 545 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: they're just not flattering depictions of the Arab culture. Also, 546 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: the things like sword swallowing and fire eating, all that 547 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: stuff is like usually made to seem like a joke, 548 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: were like a gad for kids to be like, oh 549 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: my god, what what? Yeah? And all the women even 550 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: in like the parade for Ali, Prince Ali or whatever, 551 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: they were all belly dancer looking, like all the hot 552 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: the hot girls are all just like in very just 553 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: like our glass figures and and racy outfits or whatever. 554 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: And I like, in respect that belly dancing is a 555 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: part of Arabic culture and the Middle Eastern culture for sure. 556 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: But as for a children's movie, which just would have 557 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: been nice to have a woman dressed in something else, right, Yeah, 558 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: And it's either that or then Jasmine covered up in 559 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: a potato sack. It's just like there's two she and 560 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to keep comparing it to Beating the Beast, 561 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: but there's another analog there of like the three belly 562 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: dancers who they're in gusts like like women's yeah, and 563 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: the three and and they are significantly more covered, but 564 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: they're the same three characters basically. But I'm pretty sure 565 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: that the women in Beauty and the Beast had names 566 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: the women and I believe that they do. And in 567 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: Aladdin there's actress don't get names, but they show up 568 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: multiple times. They're in Prince Ali there in one jump ahead. Well, 569 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: that's the same. Those are the same women, the same 570 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: unless unless the characters are drawn that. But I'm pretty 571 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: sure it's say characters. I think that's probably true because 572 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: they're like in the same area, but yeah, I don't know. 573 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: It's It's weird is the implication during one jump ahead 574 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: that like Aladdin has like possibly hooked up with a 575 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: lot of ladies in town. Because I was thinking that 576 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: this time where it's like every time he runs into 577 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: a lady in the marketplace, they're like, hey, it's like 578 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: maybe he I mean, I had read it as being like, oh, 579 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: he's well liked, everyone knows him because he just is 580 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: always around and like it's homeless, but like maybe it 581 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: is like he's a player. Maybe, I mean I'm like, 582 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: kind of here, I don't buy that. Aladdin when he 583 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: meets Jasmine is like this virginal was like Aladdin like fox. 584 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: I think the nipples wonder of a fox, Like how 585 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: this one has to be has to be a fucking 586 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: stud Yeah. So my theory is and why he carries 587 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: himself he has the confidence of someone that has had sex. 588 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: And and the way that he whisks Jasmine into his 589 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: studio apartment. I'm like, oh, you've done this before where 590 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: he's like and the view you know, like you go 591 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: home with Okay, this is like stuff tap dancing. It's 592 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: like he's done that we can call in the studio 593 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: Apartment's totally right. He did have a Yeah, he had 594 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: a whole routine and oh there's a moment which we 595 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: come across a lot which is very annoying where a 596 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: woman does a thing that he did not expect a 597 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: woman could do, and there they have to pick their 598 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: jaws up off the floor. It's when he's taking her 599 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: to his studio apartment. Jumpy thing. Yeah, he like pull 600 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: vaults over like a gap between two buildings and he's 601 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: like you're He's like, you're gonna need this board to 602 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: walk across and then as he's like laying down the board, 603 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: she also pulled vaults over it, and he's like a 604 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 1: woman that can do a thing. But also was like, 605 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: I'm a fast leader. Yeah you were homeschool to see 606 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: your first about of the palace, Like can you really 607 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: learn that? That sta um that scene in general, though, 608 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: like I was more impressed by it than I thought 609 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: it was going to be where it's like like Aladdin, 610 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: he does his whole like bachelor bit or whatever, but 611 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: he doesn't come on too strong. It's clear he's trying 612 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: to get to know her a little bit. He's asking 613 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: your questions. She like is clearly expressing interest in him 614 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: in a way I think we don't see a lot 615 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: in Disney movies. Usually it's she's like I hate you 616 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: and he's like, so there's hope. That's every other. But 617 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: it's like, it was cool to see a couple who 618 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: clearly are into each other. And the fact that when 619 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: he meets her, like you were saying, Caitlin, like, he 620 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: doesn't know that like, and I think that once he 621 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: finds out she's a princess, he values her more than 622 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: he did when he met which sucks, but it's clear 623 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: that like bass level, they like each other. They used 624 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: they're like about to kiss, yeah, and then on each 625 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: other for thirty minutes and they're like better kiss already. Um. 626 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: I could see that he values her more after he 627 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: finds out that she is royalty, but he also feels 628 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: like a lot of shame for he's like almost stupid, 629 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I feel like, and Jasmine doesn't 630 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: value status in a man, so she's like, I actually 631 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: like this guy who is borderline homeless and you know, 632 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: doesn't have any wealth, doesn't have enough status nipples. This 633 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: is not onlike the movie like Titanic, say, where Rose 634 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: falls in love with a poor boy named Jack Dawson. 635 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: That's the thing though, So the protagonist can be a 636 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: poor person as long as he's a boy, and he's 637 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: like like his value does not equate with his status 638 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: at all. But the woman, I feel like it's never 639 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: reversed other than like asthrala that I just thought thought of, 640 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: but like it's I feel like to value the woman character, 641 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: she has to at least to be rich or like 642 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: at least have something else going for her other than 643 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: being just like a poor person. Because like when you. 644 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's one part where you think a 645 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: load has fleas. And when I was like thinking of 646 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: them like being together in a studio apartment, I was 647 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: just like, he probably smells bad, and like she's still 648 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: into him because he's like alow that he's nice, right, 649 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: And then I mean and even like going off that 650 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: the way that like poor women are drawn in that 651 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: world is totally different, where like, yeah, they're the only 652 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: two female characters like in the Agriba marketplace are either 653 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: like bigger older women wearing like potato sacks or belly dancers. 654 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: And that's it. Yeah, another quick Titanic reference though, Yeah, 655 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: Jafar needs the use of the mystic blue diamond that 656 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: the Saltan has to be able to figure out who 657 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: the diamond and the roughest who can enter the Cave 658 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: of Wonders. I would like to think that it's the 659 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: same blue diamond from Titanic. The Heart of the Ocean 660 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: Latin take place in the Titanic verse, do Yeah, I 661 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: would like to really quick discuss the Cave of Wonders 662 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: as a vagina metaphor, because it is okay, the Cave 663 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: of Wonders I think is a vagina metaphor. I used 664 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: to have nightmares about the Cave of Wonders all the time, 665 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: fear of own sexuality. Maybe I okay, question, do you 666 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: think in the quest for the clip with the lamp 667 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: or the jewel, that a boot takes which which thoughts 668 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: I'd like to open the floor? Sure? Well, I have 669 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: not given this any thought up till now. Well, whenever 670 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 1: a boot touches the giant jewel, that's what causes mad. Yeah, 671 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: so I would say it can't be that. But I 672 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: also don't think it's the lamp. Honestly, I never thought 673 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: too well. Okay, I see the comparison to Cat. It's 674 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: a gigantic cat. Cat Ja won't Jaffar won't go near it. 675 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: He doesn't even try to go inside. He keeps finding 676 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: straight men to go in. Cats do have eight nipples, 677 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: though this is Cat FACX with Caitlin Um. I feel 678 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: like I feel like it's the ruby, right, Okay, I 679 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: was leaning towards the ruby the lamp. I don't know 680 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: what that would qualify as. I don't Okay, here's what 681 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: I think it is. I don't think they come across 682 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: the clitterest at all, because don't find it because they 683 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: don't find it. They don't and if they do, they 684 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: have no idea what to do with it. So, like 685 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: the jewel, touching it has very bad consequences, which is 686 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: not what happens in real life. That's true. Yeah, touching 687 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: it made like has a lava and everything rupting. Maybe 688 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: it took a periods unless also that's a metaphor for 689 00:38:54,120 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: an orgasm. Oh no, the vagina was very upset and 690 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: trapped them permanently and finally is not what happens every 691 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: time he works, Okay, and I love like I would 692 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: like to propose, Uh, let's just like a body hack 693 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: ourselves and figure out how to get our vagins to 694 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: flood with lava when when unhappy? I think that that's 695 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: great that it like whoa and then last cave of 696 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: wonder question promised by those rules like when, because we're 697 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: led to believe that the guy at the very beginning 698 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: Gazine dies, but wouldn't he just still be there if 699 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: Aladdin was still in there? Gazine in there somewhere. I 700 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: think the carpet kind of saved Aladdin because like like 701 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: when Aladdin was following, the carpet kind of like like 702 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: lifted him up. So I think Gazine didn't have a 703 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: happy fall. I always got the impression that he got 704 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: like trapped in the sand, like he got crushed by 705 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: like he's fagated because suffocated, because he was just like 706 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: in the sand, the thing collapsing. Don't erase the gigantic vagina, 707 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: you will die. Right And on that note, let's take 708 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: a quick break and we are back from the Cave 709 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: of Wonders where we did go. During our break, we 710 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: tricked the genie. Yeah, I mean, just a little bit 711 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: more on Jasmine and sort of her characterization. She's constantly 712 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,919 Speaker 1: saying things like I'm not going to stand around while 713 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: you make choices for me. I'm not apprized to be one. 714 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: Because there's a scene where like the Saltan and Prince 715 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: Aly and Jaffar are all like hanging out. Prince Aly's like, 716 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: just let her meet me, like she's gonna freaking love me. 717 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm so cool. But he also knows that he already 718 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: Like I held that against him too, but it's like 719 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: he already knows that she will like him because she's 720 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: they've met. Yeah, that that's true, But I don't know. 721 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: I think he could have he could have handled it 722 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: better because he now that he's a prince, he's like 723 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: all cocky and he's not behaving well uh, and then 724 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, Jasmine's like, I am not apprized to be one. 725 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: He does win her over in the next scene, so 726 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: not really. Yeah, he invades her personal space and he's 727 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: like she does tell him to kill himself, go jump 728 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: off that balcony. But I was trying to like make 729 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: sense of this because I was like, well, you know, 730 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: he's still kind of acting like he's entitled to her. 731 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: She should be like instantly falling in love with Prince Ali, 732 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: but I think it's because she senses that he is 733 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: this boy from the marketplace that she already likes him. 734 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know if I would 735 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 1: have figured all that out is a kid, I can't 736 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 1: remember well, because after the whole match of Carpet Ride, 737 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: he admits that he is the same person, but he 738 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 1: but he still double staff. He doubles down the line, 739 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: and then Jasmine's like, well, I did that too, so 740 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: I guess it makes sense. I don't know. And then 741 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: Jasmine at most points where she needs to be confronting 742 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: a man who's trying to lie to or disenfranchise her 743 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: in some way, she usually does, which is cool and 744 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't think we see a lot of princesses do 745 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: that either, where even though she does go back to 746 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: the palace right away, she goes back to confront Jaffar 747 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: right away and be like, Hey, what the funk are 748 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: you doing? And he's like, sorry, I had him killed. 749 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: And and then she later confronts a lad and when 750 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: she's like, why are you lying? Later because she doesn't 751 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: confront her dad, but her dad sees that she's upset 752 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: and does listen to her. And this also affects Jasmine's 753 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: first policy change, which is that Jafar can't be a dictator, 754 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: which is cool, even though he later ignores that very 755 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: very fashion character right. And then in the climactic sequence 756 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: which we've already touched on, where Jasmine pretends to love 757 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: Jafar in order to distract him, Jafar quickly figures out 758 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: what's going on, so he traps Jasmine in this giant hourglass, 759 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: which means that one she cannot participate in the climax 760 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: of the story, which we see over and over again, 761 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: which we already talked about a little bit, and it 762 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: means that she has to be saved by the male hero. 763 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: So it's all these tropes that we see in so 764 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 1: many classic hero tales chosen one, you know, adventure stories, 765 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: which is too bad because it's like Jasmine does more 766 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: and like advocates for herself more than most characters we'd 767 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: like seen up to that point in Disney, right, and then, 768 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: of course, because it's a Disney movie, they sell her 769 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: up the river by the end, because stories, because hero stories, 770 00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 1: because fem that needs to be saved. To Aladdin's credit, 771 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: he does apologize to Jasmine for lying to her throughout 772 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: the whole movie, unlike movies like She's All That where 773 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: Freddy Prince Jr's like, you know how I lied to 774 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: you and manipulated you this entire movie. I'm not even 775 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: gonna bother to apologize. Yeah, so at least he apologizes, 776 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: But it's one of those things where it's like one 777 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: apology from a man U does oh the bad behavior. 778 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: I love, Yeah, he does, But like I'm giving that 779 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 1: was sarcasm. I mean, like, but like that wasn't interesting. 780 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: I was thinking she saw that during the sequence where 781 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: Aladdin kind of like gets a makeover too, but he 782 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: gets like the most empowered makeover of all time, like 783 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: one that would never be afforded to. Right, it's not 784 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: to make him more hot or appealing, not even a 785 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: change his personality, which is a big part of it. 786 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: It's like he still has Aladdin's personality. He's just like 787 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: wearing nicer clothes and lying about his idea. Yeah, it's so. 788 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 1: In movies where women have to be made over, it's 789 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: almost always to make them more attractive, usually to the 790 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: opposite sex, for very heteronormative reasons. In like Aladdin, he's 791 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: getting a makeover to assume a position of more power, 792 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: to assume like a leadership position where he's can you know, 793 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: have access to more power, access to her and access 794 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: to her. Yeah, so Aladdin's makeover is to make him 795 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: more dominant, whereas most female characters are made over to 796 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: be more submissive. Basically pretty much. Yeah, got it? Okay, Yeah, 797 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: very cool. We cracked it, hacked, we hacked storytelling. You've 798 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 1: done it. Um, can we talk about the queer coding 799 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: of Jaffar and Disney movies in general, and a lot 800 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: of movies where there's like kind of a classic villain. Yeah, 801 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: Parcella hades Radigan, a lot of people argue maleficent tons 802 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: of them. So basically, if you're not familiar with the 803 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: concept of queer coding, it's basically assigning harmful stereotypical troops 804 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: to characters, oftentimes they are villains, to vilify them further. 805 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: And it's a very harmful thing in general, and especially 806 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: when young children are seeing it, because they're like, you know, 807 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: their subconscious brains see these characteristics in these villains, so 808 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: they think, oh, those characteristics must be bad if a 809 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: person in real life displays them. So it just kind 810 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: of perpetuates homophobia, and it equates stereotypically queer traits to 811 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: being bad or negative in some way. And lots of 812 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 1: Disney movies do this to their villains and they I mean, 813 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: it existed prior to that and st but like, yeah, 814 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: it's like especially harmful to it in children's movies over 815 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: and over, especially because there are no queer characters in 816 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: those Disney movies that are good the heroes or at all. Yeah, 817 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: at all. Right, So yeah, it's just a really bad 818 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: thing that keeps happening because you could argue that, like 819 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 1: the crab in Moanna is sort of coded queer like 820 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: some other like the record Ralph pretty recent movie. The 821 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: villain in that movie is coded queer. So yeah, they 822 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: have not stopped doing this, even though surely they know 823 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: it's problematic, but they just keep at it. Well, I 824 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: think maybe they tried to make Jafar when he when 825 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: he was like, I'll have her fall in love with me. 826 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: I'll have Javans fall in love with me. That was like, 827 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it was Disney attempt to be like 828 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: see like he's yeah, but then before that happens, actually 829 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: before he's made sultan, when he's thinking of marrying Jasmine anyway, 830 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: just to become sultan, his next ideas so then I'll 831 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 1: throw both her dad and her off a cliff. Yeah, 832 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: So it's like it's not yeah. He's like, Okay, I 833 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: guess I'll marry a woman, but only so I can 834 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: immediately kill her. He's like, oh, I guess I'll marry 835 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: this shrew he calls jasmina's true and then later in 836 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: the movie whenever he's like, yeah, we're gonna get married, 837 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: and Jasmine's like and he's like speechless, I see a 838 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: fine quality and a wife, Like wow, the far feminist 839 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: I cond villain Yeah, it's it's harmful for children. I 840 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: feel like it's it just like pumps you up with 841 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: all the wrong ideas about queerness at a very very 842 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: young age. The one thing that at least seems like 843 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: a semi positive is that there are like portions of 844 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: the queer community that have reclaimed these characters and there's 845 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: like festivals around them and like they've been re embraced 846 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: in retrospect. But it's okay to have queer villains if 847 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: you also have queer heroes. Yeah, that's completely absent from 848 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: and it just all of children's entertainment. It sucks for 849 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: the queer community. Even if they have like reclaimed these 850 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: villains and like celebrate them, it still sucks that like 851 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: that's pretty much the only representation of First of all, 852 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: they're not even explicitly queer, they're just like coded that way. 853 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: And then they're also villains, and it just sucks that 854 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: that's like the only representation representation that the queer community 855 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: has in at least children's movies. I mean, I identify 856 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: as queer, and I think I mean that I think 857 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: about it. I think maybe that's why I like The 858 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: Animal Movie so much, And that sounds like like a 859 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: weird thing to relate that to. But like I related 860 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: more to Raja than I did the princesses, or like 861 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: I related more to the movie Dumbo than I did 862 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: to any other princess. Yeah, because like I think whatever, 863 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: I think, seeing an animal, for whatever reason made me 864 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: feel more comforted than than seeing a woman or a 865 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: boy character. And I don't know if that's true for 866 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: everyone else. I mean for me, as like a queer kid, 867 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: I appreciated the animal characters because they were just like 868 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: they weren't explicitly a boy or a girl most of 869 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: the time, like Flounder like had like a boyish voice 870 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: or whatever, but like it was it was a little 871 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: fishy pretty genders or carpet even like it was more 872 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: just like these characters that didn't necessarily make me feel 873 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: that I was any less of a girl or anymore 874 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like genderless, that's what I'm saying, 875 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: But that carpet, So I mean, that's also sad though 876 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: to think that like that's what I related to versus 877 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: like actual character characters. But sorry, sorry to straight cis 878 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: plain queer coding. Oh no no, no, no no, I 879 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: thought what I was trying to get out, you know, 880 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: but I I fully recognize it. When I like do that, 881 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm a I'm a straight ciss lady. 882 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,919 Speaker 1: I think I don't even know I mean like that later, 883 00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: I do appreciate recognizing queer quoting for sure and stuff, 884 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: but there's also part of me that thinks, like, well, 885 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: even knowing, like oh, their voices or they're the way 886 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 1: they speak sometimes like even thinking, I mean like I 887 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: know that that that I'm fully aware that they intended 888 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: it to be queer coding, because like that's just like 889 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to make a those queer traits seem unattractive orunflattering. 890 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like, is it on 891 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 1: us also for thinking that way? I don't know, I 892 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 1: kind of give in my head about it too much. 893 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: That makes sense, And yeah, of like, well, it's it 894 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: takes two to tango kind of a thing. It's like, 895 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: or if they're sending out these messages, we have to 896 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: be like receiving them in a particular way or I 897 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: think I think I know what you're saying, but I 898 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: mean I do. I do blame Disney a lot for 899 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: in general, because I mean, they're they're they're so conservative 900 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: and and and you know see it until you're an adult. Yeah, 901 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: and as a kid, it's just subliminally just like accept 902 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 1: it all and like watching a load and or being 903 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: in the Beast or on any of those movies. Is 904 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,919 Speaker 1: that adult is so different. Dome is Park as Fun 905 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: is so dark, so dark the whole fucking like Admilla 906 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: to be like like that, what's his face of villain 907 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: desiring her? And like it's so dark. As a kid, 908 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: it goes over your head. So I think Disney sometimes, 909 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, their agenda is a little wacky. I 910 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: don't know, it's all for the place. Yeah, and then 911 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,760 Speaker 1: and then that's that's another movie where like I cannot 912 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: think of and and correct me if I'm wrong, but 913 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: I can't think of a movie with like, oh, white 914 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: Princess where she has to like kiss the villain because 915 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: that happens in Hunchback of Notre Dame and Aladdin, and 916 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,800 Speaker 1: it's just like, I don't know, it's just that's totally 917 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: it's so true. And it's really unfortunate because because women 918 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: of color are more often sexualized than white woman just 919 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 1: across the board, whether it's in live action stuff or cartoons. Um, 920 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: And it's just unfortunate that it's even the children cartoons, 921 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: Like even like the dark skinned lead female will be sexualized, 922 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: and that just like plays into a child's idea of 923 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,280 Speaker 1: what those women are like, and what those women are 924 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: like dress like, and what those women will do to 925 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: with them or whatever. So it's like it's so damaging, 926 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,320 Speaker 1: it's so yeah. And then like her body type to um. 927 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: We talked about this a little bit in the episode 928 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: we did on Frozen, but her body type of like 929 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: this tiny, tiny, tiny waist that does not adhere to 930 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: anything that you would see in the natural world and 931 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 1: reminded me of aerials body type of she they are 932 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: animated and like drawn the same way in that they 933 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: like are the most scantily clad and they have these 934 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: just tiny, tiny frames and adhered to this like very 935 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: unrealistic Western beauty standard. I mean her her head is 936 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 1: wider than her waist, Like it's insane, Let please photoshop ourselves. 937 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: So it's just so harmful for little girls to see 938 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: this and and and think, oh, that's I guess the 939 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: ideal that I have to strive to. And everyone thinks 940 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 1: she's beautiful. And like right, and she like her beauty 941 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: is so coveted. And we see this again and again 942 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: in so many Disney movies where it's this same body type. 943 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 1: We don't get any differentiation really in like the female 944 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: leads of these Disney movies and in just media in general, 945 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: video games, live action movies, like everything that's like this 946 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,359 Speaker 1: very you know, the most desirable women has the same 947 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, body type, and it's this very unrealistic, very virginal. 948 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Jasmine is another, like the movie goes out 949 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: of its way to be like she's literally never left 950 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: her house. Don't worry if she's pure like that kind 951 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, so very harmful. Yes, oh early on, 952 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: Like we said, like Jasmine is a pretty cool character 953 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: if you just isolate her. She's smart, she's capable. She 954 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: does make some active choices in this story. But then 955 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: you'll have a scene where the Sultan is like, yeah, 956 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to marry you off and it is because 957 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: of this law that I have control over changing but 958 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. I'm instead just going 959 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: to make sure you get married in three days or less. 960 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: And he says, like, I need to make sure you're 961 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: taking care of because you can't take care of yourself, right, Like, 962 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be around forever. I just want to 963 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: make sure you're taking care of provided for because of course. 964 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you can consider the era that 965 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 1: this movie takes place in, in this you know, fictional world, 966 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 1: but like, let's just subscribe to the patriarchy in this 967 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: world that doesn't exist. That's cool too. So yeah, Jasmine, 968 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: just like overall, she does have a little bit more agency, 969 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more personality than we are used to 970 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 1: seeing in Disney Princess characters, but the narrative still makes 971 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: sure that she doesn't really to do anything, doesn't really 972 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: get to take any action to influence the direction of 973 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: the story, doesn't really get to exist in the story 974 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 1: outside of just being the romantic interest, and it really 975 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: kind of screws her over again and again. And unless 976 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: I am missing something, and all white cast to this movie, 977 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 1: the voices, voice actors all white, and some of them 978 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:34,439 Speaker 1: sometimes written and directed. Just yeah, there is that scene 979 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: in the very beginning before we get into Agriba where 980 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: Robin Williams does this voice too, where he's like trying 981 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: to sell you like a bong that makes Julian fries 982 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 1: or whatever. Um, and he's doing an accent. So it's 983 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: like this white guy doing like a vaguely Arabic sounding accent, 984 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, it's just it's the problem piling up. Yeah, 985 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: it's offensive. Also realized that was Robin Williams until this 986 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: vieeling really I think I think I probably knew, and 987 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: then I forgot probably and I had to I had 988 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 1: to listen to really carefully, and I was like, oh yeah, like, 989 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: oh yes, you can't. That wasn't necessary, but it is 990 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: a choice that they made. Yeah, like so many things 991 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: in this movie. Um. Towards the end of the movie, 992 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: it's like after they've defeated sorry, after a Laddin his 993 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: defeated ja'far, and he's like debating whether or not to 994 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: free the genie, and the genie's like, it's fine, it's 995 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: just you know, an eternity of servitude. But this is love, 996 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: so make sure you do that. And then he says, 997 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: you're not going to find another girl like her in 998 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: a million years. Believe me, I've looked. And that's basically 999 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: saying she's not like the other girls, so you know, 1000 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: stick with this one and then against all odds, Aladdin's like, no, Genie, 1001 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: you're not my slave anymore. What a hero I am? Yeah, 1002 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: it's like, oh he's the like should he truly get 1003 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: credit for doing that? But it doesn't seem like something 1004 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: that should occur. The Jenny looks like goofy And that's 1005 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 1: the Disney World slavery is solved. Does anyone have any 1006 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: other thoughts about Aladdin? I did find it strange that 1007 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: there's a monkey in the Middle East, because I've never 1008 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: seen a monkey in the Middle East. I mean, then 1009 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: to get a tiger either, I mean, like, I don't know, 1010 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 1: it's it's ancient times. What am I talking about? Everything 1011 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: is possible, but but it is. I find it interesting 1012 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: that she has no friends, that Jasmine has no friends, 1013 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: and just like her female pet tiger, and she's still 1014 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 1: like very competent about the world other than not knowing 1015 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: that Apple needs money, I guess, but like, yeah, right, 1016 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 1: you think she'd be a little more like if she 1017 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: has never stepped outside the palace, like she's only interacted 1018 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 1: with her father and like the guards in Jafar and stuff. Right, Yeah, 1019 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: that's something that I don't know. If there's like a 1020 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 1: tech nicole term for what exactly that is. But I 1021 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: feel like that comes up sometimes with female characters, but 1022 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 1: like a yes queen kind of femine, like women can 1023 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: do anything, it's like that they need to learn. It's 1024 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: like a naivete that's like very she's naive, but it's 1025 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: not unattractive, and it's like I want to show you 1026 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: the world, like I want to like introduce you to everything, 1027 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: and like it's almost like is it kind of like 1028 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: the born Sexy Yesterday trope? A little literarient of that. 1029 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: I think it's also like it plays into the fact 1030 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: that like she's a version. He's going to show her 1031 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: how to have sex. Like it's kind of because like, yeah, exactly, 1032 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: it's like there's a trope where it's like you're a pure, untouched, 1033 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: unknowing person and there's a certain sexiness about someone teaching 1034 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 1: you for the first time or like showing you the 1035 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: way for the first time. So either shot that little 1036 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 1: interesting on this viewing then, and also along the lines 1037 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: of like her lack of female friends or interactions with 1038 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: any women, like Disney movies do this all the time, 1039 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: where if there are other female characters who are around whatever, 1040 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: like princess. It is they're either evil stepmother's, evil step sisters, animals, 1041 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: or some other villainous set people props. Basically, um, and 1042 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: there's almost never anyone that she can actually like talk 1043 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: to and interact with in a meaningful way until like Frozen, 1044 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 1: and then you know, you can listen to our episode 1045 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 1: on that for that whole discussion. But um, yeah, there's 1046 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 1: just it's so rare to see women interacting in a 1047 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Disney movie. Hey, that brings us to whether or not 1048 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: this movie passes. The test doesn't even come close. There's 1049 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: no opportunity. The closest it comes is that, as we 1050 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: talked about, the like group of three like belly dancer 1051 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: dressed women are in a couple of songs one jump ahead, 1052 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: and they show up again in the Prince Ali song, 1053 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: and in one of them they're like singing near each 1054 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: other and the other one they are sort of looking 1055 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: each other while they're singing. But in both songs they 1056 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 1: are singing about Aladdin and I not have names. I 1057 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: was gonna say the closest thing is when Jasmine is 1058 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 1: talking to Raja at the beginning, but I don't know 1059 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: if that does not respond, she does not verbally respond 1060 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 1: in human language. So but she is named, so there's 1061 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: a few close calls, but nope, not at all. So 1062 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: with that, let us rate the movie on our nipple 1063 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 1: scale zero to five nipples based on its portrayal of women. 1064 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with one and a half for Aladdin. 1065 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 1: I do like, as we've said, if you isolate Jasmine 1066 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 1: as a character and the intelligence she displays, the stances 1067 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: she has on things, she does have some degree of agency, 1068 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 1: and you know she's always saying like, I'm not going 1069 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: to let people decide my future for me. I'm not 1070 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: a prized to be one. So in that regard, she 1071 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 1: is maybe a proto feminist icon. But because the narrative 1072 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 1: doesn't care about her really except to make sure that 1073 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: she is the romantic interest of Aladdin, she doesn't really 1074 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: get to do all that much or make that many 1075 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: active choices or existing story outside of her relationship to Aladdin. 1076 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: So the movie gets a lot of nipples taken away 1077 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 1: for that. It is nice to see a woman of 1078 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: color be a Disney princess. Um. This is one of 1079 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: the earlier ones, if not I think the first first one. 1080 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: So it is like, you know, Sharine for you when 1081 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: you're seeing this as a kid and you saw yourself 1082 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: represented to some degree in Jasmine or Raja. So it 1083 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 1: is nice for that, But because the movie doesn't really 1084 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 1: handle like Arabic culture very responsibly, it doesn't do that 1085 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 1: great of a job. Yeah, so one and a half nipples. 1086 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Jasmine is cool, but she doesn't get to display her 1087 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 1: coolness all that much. And my nipples, I'll give one 1088 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 1: and a half nipples to Raja. I'll go. I want 1089 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: to go too, because I want to give a lot 1090 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 1: of nipples for the first time in this life. But 1091 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: I'll also do one and a half for for basically 1092 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: all the reasons that you said. And I'll also attack 1093 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: on losing points for overly sexualizing a non white female character, 1094 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: a trend that they will continue to do with Pocohonas 1095 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: and as Maria and like into Infinity as long as 1096 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: these same five male directors are still directing every single 1097 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Disney movie. It's out to Ron Clements, John Musker, Ted Elliott, 1098 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:52,120 Speaker 1: and Terry Rassio look out. But yeah, I mean, other 1099 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 1: than that, I could you summarized it very well, and 1100 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to give a nipple and a half so 1101 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 1: close to a ladded. I think I will give. I 1102 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: really do like Jasmine's character. I think I think her 1103 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 1: personality is great. I like that they made her strong 1104 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: and stuff. But I agree with everything you said as well, 1105 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 1: and just it's it just doesn't handle the culture. Well, 1106 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 1: it's sexualizes a woman of color and would have been 1107 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 1: nice to just have another female character at all that 1108 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 1: had speaking with live right. Yeah, um so yeah, I 1109 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 1: think I'll give. I'm gonna give one namble to Jasmine. Great. Yeah, yeah, 1110 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 1: because there's Jasmine's manly female character. But as far as 1111 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: the male characters, we've got Aladdin, a Boo is gendered male, 1112 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 1: the Genie, the Salton, Jafar Iago, all of Jafar's guards, like, 1113 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: it's just like countless male characters, and just the I do. 1114 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: I say, I love Aladdin and it's a fucking blast 1115 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: of a time, and you even watching it as an adult, 1116 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 1: it's still so fun. And I love Rob Williams and 1117 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 1: miss Robin Williams and and still sad Robin Williams and 1118 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 1: I will never be the same. There's there's a there's 1119 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 1: a sentimental nous to Aladdin that I cannot ignore it 1120 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: for me, and it reminds me of watching with my sister, 1121 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 1: reminds me of playing the video game. It reminds me 1122 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: of like just being a kid and not realizing it 1123 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: was problematic. Yet I think like the ignorance is a 1124 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: bliss thing is so true as a kid because you're 1125 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 1: happy and you little things make you laugh, whether it's cheating, 1126 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 1: doing something stupid or whatever, and it's just like reminds 1127 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 1: you of when times we're simple. Definitely, Yeah, yeah, like 1128 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 1: you can still love movies that we as adults realize 1129 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: are problematic, but as long as we when you talk 1130 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: about them on a podcast, there's so few that aren't. Right. Well, Sharine, 1131 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Thank you so 1132 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 1: much for having me. This was so fun. 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