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Cattle mutilations tend to 10 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: surface the same way every time, not as breaking news, 11 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: but as a phone call from someone who knows their 12 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: land and knows when something off. An animal found dead, 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: certain body parts missing, no blood when there should be blood, 14 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: no tire tracks, no sign of anything. We're up in 15 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: eastern Oregon, and this is Colby Marshall, a rancher who 16 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: did not go looking for this story, but ended up 17 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: inside it anyway. 18 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to High Strange, exact same mutilation. I took some photos, 19 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 2: documented what I could. We noticed that there was no tracks, 20 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: There was no struggle marks, there was no tire tracks, 21 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: there was nothing. I went back to the ranch, called 22 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: the sheriff's office, and we got in touch with the 23 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: state Police, notified the for service what we had found. 24 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: When you're dealing with thousands of livestock, it's not uncommon 25 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: to find something that has passed away or there's been 26 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: an injury, and so we were very familiar. One of 27 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: the first things that I noticed the cuts on the animal. 28 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: Nothing makes sense about it. They were all very precise, 29 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: like they had been done by a scalpel. Doesn't make 30 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: any sense. A lot of times when you see an 31 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: animal that is harvested in the wild and somebody is 32 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: using a blade or they're using a saw to work 33 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: down through the animal, the cuts can be more jagged. 34 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: But this was done with a extremely sharp scalpel, or 35 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: it was done with maybe even some sort of a 36 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: laser cutting tool. 37 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: It was so precise. 38 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: Bulls, cows, even you and I, we have an abdominal cavity. 39 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: We have a layer of very very fine layer inside 40 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: underneath our skin that holds our guts. In that layer, 41 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: which is very very thin, that was not nicked. 42 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: It was not cut open. 43 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: The hide was cut and then perfectly removed without nicking 44 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: or cutting that layer. They just absolutely cut that away 45 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: without nicking it. That is precise, and they did it 46 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: on every single one of those animals. I mean, it's 47 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: whoever's doing this understands anatomy very well, at least on livestock. 48 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: I mean surgical precision. I've spent my whole entire life 49 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: around livestock, cattle, sheep, goats, you name it, and at 50 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: no point in my life have I ever experienced anything 51 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: like that. 52 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: It was. 53 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: It just it makes the hair on the back of 54 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: your neck stand up. You start thinking, Okay, how could 55 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: this happen? Who would want to do this, what's the 56 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: reason behind it, Why is it being done, what's the purpose? 57 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: These are expensive, high value animals. Their tongues were removed, 58 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: reproductive organs missing, and not a single drop of blood 59 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: in the soil. 60 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: We put out a twenty five thousand dollar reward for 61 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: information that would lead to an arrest or a conviction, 62 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: and there was no leads. 63 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: In this case. 64 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: Every single one of these mutilated bulls literally melted into 65 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: the ground. Their hides were there months, if not a 66 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: year afterward. If you could go right to the site, 67 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: you can see exactly where the animal was laying. I 68 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: will never look at a livestock death the same. Ever again, 69 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: I think about it all the time, and once you 70 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: hear this story, you will also think about it. 71 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Nothing around the bodies suggests that there was a struggle. 72 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: There were no tire marks, no tracks, no drag marks. 73 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: Ranchers live with death. They know what predators do. They 74 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: know what scavengers leave behind. 75 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: The CIA operative he'd been around a lot of dead 76 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: bodies a. 77 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: Few years ago. Someone in the CIA reached out to 78 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: Kolby directly. 79 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: Key and I got talking about it, and he said, 80 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: you know, Colby goes, especially during the Afghanistan war and 81 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: seeing some just horrific things out there. There's no blood 82 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: in the carcasses. And I thought yeah, And he said, well, 83 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: if there's no blood in the carcass, it may not 84 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 2: have the same smell as decomposing bodies do. Given that 85 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: a lot of credibility, because the only thing that makes 86 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: sense to me is why they scavengers wouldn't just come 87 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: after those animals laying out there, is because they didn't 88 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: smell the same. I appreciate the interest in it because 89 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: I don't think that there's enough acknowledgment of this and 90 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: enough people. 91 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: I think there's people that. 92 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: Don't want to talk about it because they see it 93 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: as something that is taboo. I think it's important these discussions, 94 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: and these conversations are so important to get the word 95 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: out so that people feel free to express their opinion 96 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: or look into a close so that at some point 97 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: in time we can find out why it's being done. 98 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: And once we know the why, I think all the 99 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: other pieces will come into play. But until we know 100 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: the why, I think we'll ever figure this out, and 101 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: it will go on as the longest unsolved murder mystery 102 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: in the history of the world. I don't think we're 103 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: alone in the universe. I think the big universe is 104 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: too big and too massive, and I think it would 105 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: be ridiculous to think that we're all by ourselves out here. 106 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: I've thought a lot about whether or not an alien 107 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: culture from outer space would come to do this kind 108 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: of thing, and the way I look at it, and 109 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: maybe I'm naive about this. If you're using that kind 110 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: of technology and you can travel across the universe and 111 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: cover the distances that are out there, why would you 112 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: use that technology to harvest reproductive organs off. 113 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: Of range bowls in eastern Oregon? 114 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: And I've went so far on this, well, hey, you know, 115 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: if they're coming from a billion miles away across outer 116 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: space to sample eastern Oregon beef, we must be doing 117 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: something right. I would tell people that I thought that, 118 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: you know, it must be a testament to the beef 119 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: we're producing, if that's the best beef in the universe. 120 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: I also am not naive to think there isn't some 121 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: other life in the universe and they might have some 122 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: interest in it for a variety of different reasons. Personally, 123 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: I think it is a group. I think it is 124 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: a cult group that is home base right here on 125 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: planet Earth, which goes to the main question of you 126 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: know why. I've also had people ask me do I 127 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: think it's government? Do I think there is a government 128 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: entity out there that is doing this? 129 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: If the government. 130 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: Wanted to do something like this, why wouldn't they just 131 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: do these activities, you know on these big land bases 132 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: that they have places all over the United States that 133 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: they have isolated that they can control every aspect of 134 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: the environment, So why would. 135 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 5: You run the risk? 136 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: This series is not about jumping to conclusions. It's about 137 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: documenting patterns that refuse to disappear. Cattle mutilations are one 138 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: of those patterns. They're decades old, global and still to 139 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: this day completely unresolved. 140 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 6: My name is share my Homes. I am currently the 141 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 6: sheriff of the Kenny. I moved out here to Cowboy. 142 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 6: Moved out here to work on ranges by a cowboy 143 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 6: for about five years Ardriage, south central part of Organ. 144 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 6: That was my first experience of mutilations. I remember going 145 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 6: out with the boss at the time and looking at it. 146 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 6: Blake had been removed, the heart had been removed, the 147 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 6: reproductive organs had been removed, the tongue cheek. For me, 148 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 6: I have for the most part ruled out predators. I've 149 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 6: seen firsthand what a cougar can do, and I've seen 150 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 6: firsthand what a bear can do. I've seen firsthand what 151 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 6: wolves will do and kitles will do. 152 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: None of this adds up to that. 153 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 6: When I first saw the first one, an alien thing 154 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 6: came up. I said no very quickly. But at that 155 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 6: point in time my thought process I was younger, but 156 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 6: my thoughts as goes back to the little green men. 157 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: We see on TV screens when we're a little right. 158 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 6: Do I believe in that? I don't know if I 159 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 6: necessarily believe in that there's a lot of unexplained things 160 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 6: that happen across the world. Keeping an open mind and 161 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 6: following the facts where they are, I'm open to wherever 162 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 6: they might lead. 163 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: Too physical to be dismissed as imagination and too weird 164 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: to find a reasonable explanation. While some ranchers are dealing 165 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: with unexplained violence on the ground, other people in other 166 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: parts of the world have been staring at something just 167 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: as strange from above, and they've been arguing about it 168 00:12:53,960 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: for years, crop circles. The thing is, crop circles didn't 169 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: start as a joke. They didn't start on the Internet. 170 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: They started quietly. 171 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 4: I got pulled in, I think like a lot of 172 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 4: people did in the late eighties when the sort of 173 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 4: the newspaper started running a lot of stories huge formations 174 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: that were appearing in Welshire. So I started heading down 175 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: their late eighties early nineties. I kind of went in 176 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: there thinking, oh, there must be something paranormal involved yet, 177 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: because these things are huge for me personally. Everything changed 178 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: when I went out made my first circle with a 179 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: team of established human circle makers. You can see this 180 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 4: isn't as hard as you're led to believe. 181 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: In the late nineteen seventies and early eighties, farmers again 182 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: waking up to find large geometric patterns pressed into their 183 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: fields overnight. 184 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: Providing you've got a fairly good understanding of geometry, and 185 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 4: providing you've got enough manpower and enough darkness, you can 186 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: make quite a convincing crop circle. But then it becomes 187 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 4: a lot more interesting because when people go out to 188 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 4: these circles and make them, they start having a lot 189 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 4: of weird experiences. People who go to these circles after 190 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: they've been made have weird experiences. Well, it's not aliens, 191 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: and it's definitely humans, but there's something weird in the middle. 192 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: Are we creating some sort of magical midpoints here where 193 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: weird stuff does happen? And if you step away from 194 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 4: that argument of oh it's aliens, oh it's humans, the 195 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: story becomes a bit more interesting. In my mind, at least, 196 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: everyone sort of goes into overdrive trying to back track 197 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: real world events and link them. No one will believe 198 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: you that you made that crop circle. That first circle 199 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: really sort of highlighted to me that people will bend 200 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: wherever they want onto that formation, onto that design, and 201 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 4: make it into something that makes sense to them. It's 202 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 4: almost like a co creation. Unwittingly, you make something and 203 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: somebody builds a home mythology around it. 204 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: Crop circles sit in a strange place. They've been treated 205 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: as either evidence of something extraordinary or it's proof that 206 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: people will believe anything as long as it looks mysterious enough, 207 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: And like most things in this world, the truth doesn't 208 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: land cleanly on either side. You have some people who 209 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: openly claim they've made these things themselves, and as weird 210 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: as that sounds, there also isn't much physical evidence proving 211 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: that either maybe there are multiple truths here, maybe not. 212 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: Everything in this topic is neatly squared away. Real or 213 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: fake doesn't always cover it. And it gets even stranger 214 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: when you hear that people report unexplained experiences at crop 215 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: circle sites that are supposedly man made physical sensations, equipment, 216 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: acting weird emotional reactions they can't explain. At a certain point, 217 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: the question stops being whether crop circles are real or fake. 218 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: It becomes something more interesting. What are the experiences of 219 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: the people who come in contact with them actually telling us? 220 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: And that's why I love the story you're about to hear, 221 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: not because it proves that crop circles are alien messages, 222 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: but because it captures something honest and it turns into 223 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: a full blown adventure. I met this guy the way 224 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: you meet a lot of interesting people in the world, 225 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: by accident at a hotel lobby bar during a UFO conference. 226 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: He sat down next to me and without much context 227 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: at all, placed a small, shiny, metallic rock on the 228 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: bar between us. He told me he believed it came 229 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: from somewhere else, maybe another planet. Maybe it was debris 230 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: from something that didn't belong here. He said he had 231 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: it tested and that no lab could tell him what 232 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: it was. I'll be honest, this space rock did look strange, 233 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: but I also don't know shit about rocks. What I 234 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: did know was how seriously he took it, and how 235 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: excited he was about the whole damn thing, enough that 236 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: it made me excited too. He called it his lucky 237 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: space rock, and that it had stories of its own. 238 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: His name is a Line, and earlier this year he 239 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: flew halfway across the world chasing an idea he doesn't 240 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: even fully leaven. He had forty eight hours in the 241 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: UK to try and find an actual crop circle, and 242 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: his plan was to use his lucky space rock as 243 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: his guide. 244 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: I bought one way ticket to Israel through London. In London, 245 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: I had only two days. So when I landed in 246 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: England Land in the UK, I rented a car, got 247 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: to the Crop Circle Center that's right her first I 248 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: go in and I meet that woman who works there. 249 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: That's her life. She has a museum there, she has 250 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 3: this website. When people find a crop circle they let 251 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: her know. She puts it up online. I said, my 252 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: little there's nothing new, but there's an old one from 253 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: like a month ago that you can go and check out. 254 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, cool, I'll do that. I 255 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: drive there, I knock on the door. This woman opens up. Yes, 256 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: can I help you? Like crop circle? She goes, oh 257 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: my god, not again. She goes, stop, just stop, it's 258 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 3: a hoax. There's no crop circles. You all keep coming 259 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 3: here for this. It's not real. I'm sorry that you 260 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: had to come all this way, but I'm sorry. I 261 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: drive back back to my Airbnb and I'm kind of 262 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: like baffled and literally, did I know all the country 263 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: road in England are tiny and very narrow? And I'm 264 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: also driving on the left side. It's fucking weird driving 265 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: this huge car. This card come in front of me Africa, 266 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: and I moved to the left and I hit the curve. 267 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: Hit the curve and get the flat to attire. So 268 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: I stopped at the flat tire shop and the guy's like, uh, here, 269 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: let me put the spur for you. Come back tomorrow. 270 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: I'll fix it. I go back to my band. He 271 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: kind of bummed, and the landlady tells me, well, you 272 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 3: know you should go to Avery Rock Circle. 273 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 5: What. 274 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody knows about Stonehenge, but there's also Avery Rock Circle. 275 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: It's in this village. It's freaking gold there. It's amazing. 276 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 3: So it's like, okay, there's not completely lost. I'll go there. 277 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: So I took my rock. I went to that place 278 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: and it's amazing. It's incredible, these megalithic rocks just in 279 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: this huge circle around the village. My mood got better, 280 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: and then I got inspired. I took my rock and meditated, 281 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 3: put my iPhone in front of me and I'm like, 282 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: come on, is let's fucking go. I'm here for Walmart Day. 283 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: Give me a crop circle tomorrow to check out. That's 284 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: literally what I. 285 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: Said, so, what are you trying to do? 286 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: Exactly simon a crop circle. 287 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Trying to manifest a cross into existence. 288 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's kind of laughing at myself. I was 289 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: aware that he's ridiculous. 290 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: So what day was this? 291 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: That was July eleventh? I can you want to play it? Yeah, 292 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: I'll play it. That's my phone. 293 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: A lawn ends up in a garden, no crowd, no spectacle, 294 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: just him holding his lucky space rock, eyes closed, breathing, 295 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: slowly doing exactly what he came there to do. He 296 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: recorded himself on his phone the whole time. 297 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: I went to sleep. I wake up in the morning 298 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: and I was following the crop circle report and there 299 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: was nothing. There's no crop circle, And I'm like, the 300 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: fuck is the strip is not going very well that 301 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: night from flying out to Israel. So I have like 302 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: ay and a little bit of the night and then 303 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 3: I'm done. I didn't really think something's gonna happen. I hoped, 304 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 3: you know, find adventure, no matter what this is. 305 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: When his whole story starts to sound like some Steven 306 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: Spielberg adventure. 307 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: Stop at the tire shop and the guy tells me 308 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 3: he can't fix my tire, and he's like three hundred 309 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 3: pounds to get a new one. This is a rental. 310 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: I'm not funny doing that, So just put it in 311 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: the back and I'll use my spare. It's a tiny spare. 312 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna drive on that. Then literally, I get 313 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: a download from the universe. Go to the Crop Circle Center. Now, 314 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: what do you mean a download from universe intuition? I 315 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: don't know how to call it. You're just like, all 316 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, it's not a voice, physical voice, 317 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: but it's almost like it, but very very very clear. 318 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: I need to go to the Crop Circle Center. Now, 319 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: I drive back to the Crop Circle Center. 320 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: I go in. 321 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, how's it going. All of a sudden, 322 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: she gets a text message and she's like, a crop 323 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: circle just popped up, the coordinates, pictures, videos of it, 324 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what the fuck? Okay, how do I 325 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: get there? The way that report comes? They have pictures, 326 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: a video, and a map with coordinates. But it's not 327 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: like a Google map. It's not a location you can 328 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: just put on your GPS and then go there and 329 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 3: you'll find it. Here's a picture of the area, the 330 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: arrow the points where the crop circle should be so 331 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: I get in the car, I start driving. I'm playing music. Bro, 332 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: I'm high as fuck. 333 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: I got a crop circle. 334 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: I'm just so happy. So it's an hour drive, very 335 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: country like. I'm in the middle of nowhere. There's no houses, 336 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: no nothing, very small roads. I'm fifteen minutes in. I 337 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 3: hear puff, my spare explodes. You get another flat. The 338 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: car stops. Now in the middle of fucking nowhere. I 339 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: don't even know the spare. I'm stuck. I'm fucked. I 340 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 3: might miss my flight. I was devastated. You come all 341 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: the way here to fucking England. Give me a cross circle, 342 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: then I ask you for and then ten minutes before 343 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: I get you, you're gonna fuck me like that, kidding me. 344 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: I thought, it's all bullshit. There's no aliens, it's all bullshit. 345 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: This whole thing was a fucking mistake. My whole obsession 346 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: with this is a mistake. All this lost moments epically, 347 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: and I called my fiance and she's not, Babe, listen 348 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: to me, you've got this. I'm like, I do. 349 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 5: You do? 350 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 3: Look around? Is there anybody there? Mind you? There's no 351 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 3: houses anywhere, there's not a neighborhood. It's not a street 352 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 3: and I realized there was a fence right next to me, 353 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: like a picket fence. And I go on my tippy 354 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: toe and I look about the fence and throwing up 355 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 3: this house. There's a house. There's two cars, the only house. 356 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: Go and knock on their door. Nice gentlemen opens the door. 357 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: There was super nice. It took us like probably an 358 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: hour and a half figure out this local towing company 359 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 3: and they said, yeah, we'll come get your car and 360 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 3: we'll take you to the airport. Great when eleven pm. 361 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 3: So she hangs up the phone like, oh my god, 362 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: thank you so much. And then she looks at me 363 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: and she goes, okay, shall we go find your crop circle? 364 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: Are you serious? But we live there our whole lives. 365 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 3: You've never seen one. You're saying, it's right here, let's go. 366 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 3: Not always lost Yet. We get into their car. She's driving. 367 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: I'm sitting next to her husband behind me with the 368 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: map that I gave him, and he's navigating old country roads, 369 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: third roads. Get to this place. We thought that looks 370 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: like the pictures. We recognize the trees. We climb up. 371 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: I bought a drone for that trip, so I was like, okay, 372 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: I have a drone, I'll send it up there in 373 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: three sixty overview and see what I see. So I 374 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 3: get the drone up and at the end of that 375 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: three sixty the crop circles get into my frame. 376 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: That Oh my god, look at it. 377 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: I kept lippening to me. I feel like the flow 378 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 3: of the universe Amian's God. 379 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 5: Or one with me. 380 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: Against his own expectations, the universe plays along. Maybe it's coincidence, 381 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: maybe it's pattern recognition. Maybe it's dumb luck or good 382 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: space rock luck. The important part isn't whether the crop 383 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: circle means anything. It's why people keep chasing them. His 384 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: name is a lawn. If you like, go check out 385 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: Alan's YouTube channel. It's called I'm not joking. It's fucking 386 00:27:47,160 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: aliens Bro one hundred percent worth it. I'm recording this 387 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: at ten oh seven am. I know that because I 388 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 1: just looked at my phone, and if you're listening to this, 389 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: it's no longer ten oh seven. It might be morning, 390 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: it might be late. You might be on a walk 391 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: or just counch roding somewhere, which already tells you something 392 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: strange about time. React like time is this solid thing 393 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: we're all standing inside together, like there's one shared now 394 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: that we're all moving through. But according to science, that's 395 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: not actually how it works. Physics says there is no 396 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: universal present, no masterclock, just events happening, stacked differently depending 397 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: on where you are. So when I say it's ten 398 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: oh seven am, that moment is already gone, but this 399 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: sentence is happening for you right now. What that means 400 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: in real life is this time isn't something you're writing on. 401 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: It's something you're coordinating with. We schedule our lives around it, 402 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: and we measure ourselves against it. We panic when we 403 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: feel behind it, but it's not actually moving the way 404 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: we think it is. What's moving is us your attention, 405 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: your decisions. Those are what create the feeling of time passing. 406 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: That's why some days fly by and this monologue is dragging. 407 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: That's why one conversation can change everything and then ten 408 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: years can disappear quietly. Time doesn't speed up or slow down, 409 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: your experience does. So if you feel like you're running 410 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: out of time or just waiting for the right moment, 411 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: think about this. There may not be a single now 412 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: in the whole universe, but there's always a moment where 413 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: you're making a choice, sending a text, avoiding the conversation, 414 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: showing up, not showing up. That's the only part of 415 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: time you actually touch. So wherever you're hearing this, whatever 416 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: time it is for you, that's just the point of contact. 417 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: Not the clock, not the calendar, just a moment where 418 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: something happens because you were there. Once you accept that 419 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: reality is not as fixed as it feels, a lot 420 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: of these stories stops sounding like fairy tales and start 421 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: to look like data points on a graph we just 422 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: don't fully understand yet. For decades, there has been one 423 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: place more than any other, where time, perception, secrecy, and 424 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: experience all seem to collide. A place that was built 425 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: for keeping secrets, a place you can't even get a 426 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: solid satellite image of, a place that officially did not 427 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: exist until it did. Area fifty one. There's one story 428 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: that sits right at the center of Area fifty one, 429 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: whether you want it to or not, a story that 430 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: didn't just introduce flying saucers to American culture, but permanently 431 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: fuse them to this secret military base in the Nevada Desert. 432 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: At the center of that story is a man named 433 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: Bob Lazar. This guy didn't claim to see something strange 434 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: in the sky. He claimed to work inside the system itself, 435 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: reverse engineering flying saucers. Bob Lazar's story is either the 436 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: longest running hoax in modern UFO history or one of 437 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: the most dangerous truths ever spoken out loud. This story 438 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: refuses to die more about to try and make sense 439 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: of all of it. I didn't just want another opinion. 440 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: I wanted the person who has spent years closest to 441 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: this story, closest to Bob Lazar himself. If this is 442 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: all a lie, I'm honestly just impressed at this point. 443 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: And if it's not, then a human revelation has been 444 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: sitting right in front of us. This entire time. 445 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 7: News articles once again mentioned the talk about alien spacecraft, 446 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 7: things of alien origin flying in. 447 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 8: Nevada out of nowhere like a shiroco in the desert. 448 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 8: He was in Silhouette comes forward on the news and says, 449 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 8: we are reverse engineering alien spacecraft at a place called 450 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 8: Area fifty one, which you haven't heard about. 451 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: Nine flying saucers. 452 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 8: I was part of that program, and now I'm worried 453 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 8: about my life, a threat to my personal safety. 454 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 5: That's my story. 455 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 7: The live interview Drew International attention. Portions were broadcast by 456 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 7: radio in six European countries and an a nationally televised 457 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 7: TV special in Japan. His real name is Robert Lazar. 458 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 7: He says he was hired to work at an area 459 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 7: called S four. At S four, he says, are flying saucers, 460 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 7: anti matter reactors, technology that is seemingly beyond human capability. 461 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 7: Lazar's story is by any stand It's fantastic. 462 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: He says. 463 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 7: He's telling it in order to protect himself. 464 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 5: Who's this Lazar guy? I don't know. Can we believe him? 465 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 5: Can we not? Is he a liar? 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