WEBVTT - Training Camp-Cast 8/3: Day 7 Recap, Deep Look at Offensive Line 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:09.720 Yes, this is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. The Patriots 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.160 Training Camp Cast is your source for all the news 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.360 from Patriots training Camp. Well, I do still watch the news. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.320 Practice is over, but the writers of Patriots dot com 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.640 have you covered what I miss yesterday? Now here to 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:24.959 review today's practice? The writers of Patriots dot com, Well, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.600 it was a hot one out there today. Dialed back 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.400 a little bit. No pads here today on what is it? 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.440 What we're losing track of days? We're Wednesday, day seven. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.440 It's starting to get into the dog days of training camp, 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.040 losing track of time. But this is Mike do so join. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.240 We got some special guests today, of course, Paul Perillo, 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.760 Evan Lazar and a special guest today. Offensive lineman's been 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.559 working around here. He hasn't turned your volume up there 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.239 you go. Um, Christian Taylor's joining us. Somebody who works here. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.199 But he's got some experience in the offensive line, going 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.160 to Georgia Southern as well as Bennett College. So Christian, 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.840 thank you for joining us. We put him on watching 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:00.800 the offensive and defensive line, so we want to get 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.200 some input in terms of, you know, what he's seeing 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.760 with his keen football eye. But first let's talk a 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.840 little bit about this practice, guys. It was maybe not 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.679 the most eventful one. Bill Belichick said, we're gonna dial back, 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:13.680 fix some things today. Seems like it might be set 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.640 in the stage for tomorrow. My favorite part of that was, 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.720 you know, we have to fix some things, would specifically everything, 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:24.679 and I would say that the way they went about 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.360 the practice it sort of showed that a little bit. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.319 I did think it was a you know, a slower tempo, 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.800 and I thought there was more instruction going on than 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.400 we typically see in a training camp practice. I thought, 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.080 you know, again, I wouldn't call it a walk through. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:39.640 I think it was a little bit faster paced than 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.119 a walk through. But there were some moments at least 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:43.840 where there was some plays. I thought that went off 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:47.720 a little bit smoother than we've seen more consistently in 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.880 the recent past. But again some disjointed periods for the offense. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.960 I mean, I thought Kendrick Bourne picked up a few catches. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.440 I mean, it wasn't anything earth shattering, but it was 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.600 nice to maybe see him get involved a little bit. Evan, 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.560 what else stuck out to you today? I think the 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:05.400 main emphasis for today was a smoother operation overall, offensively. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.240 I don't think they're going to get caught up, not 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.600 that they ever really do, and the results of completions 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.880 or big plays down the field or anything that actually 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.919 was a product of what they did out there today. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.880 But overall, I agree with Paul that a little bit 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.480 smoother offensively. Seemed like they were trying to get to 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.240 their landmarks and their passing concepts and trying to basically 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.839 work out some of those kinks. It was a lot 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.200 of mental stuff and correcting mistakes. But the one thing 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.240 I'll say that last red zone period ramped up a 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.560 little bit the competition and once again Matthew Judean off 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.440 the left side, Mac Wilson on an interior blitz. More 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.360 pressure on mac Jones to end that red zone period. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.480 Two straight drop backs to end the practice for Mac 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.799 one throwaway one would be sacked for mac Wilson. So 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.400 still a lot to work out up front that we 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.280 saw yesterday and the day before in pads. Well, mac Wilson, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:02:59.880 sure that's the place, stood up to me. He blew it. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:01.839 So Christian, let's go to you. We saw a couple 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.120 of days of pads. You've got to look at some 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.079 of the offensive line and we know they're going through 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.320 some transition. But you know, just for you as a 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.959 college offensive lineman, what stood out to you some of 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.240 the guys, what what you know catches your eye as 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.560 you're watching some of these one on ones from the 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.040 last couple of days. Well, one thing that I saw 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.360 that did catch my attention was Justin Harren playing right 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.079 tackle as a backup. I think he is a solid 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:28.120 backup at right tackle. He had some great blocks today, 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.840 able to cut guys off, really really athletic. But I 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.880 think they're still working on, you know, jelling. Really, I 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.520 think they need some time to work together. It looks 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.280 like cold Strange may possibly still be trying to learn 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.920 the playbook. He's asking a lot of questions when he's 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.880 at the line of scrimmage. So I think they're just 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.320 working on you know, coercion, working together, understanding each other 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.960 when they're in the scenario. But I think, you know, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.960 by the end of camp, they'll be all right. Now. 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.400 I mean, I gotta bring up Trent Brown because I mean, 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.120 you're people can't see it. This is a podcast, but 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:58.840 Christians a giant guy. I mean, he looks like he 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.480 could strap them up right now, go out there and 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.600 look right in place with the rest of the offensive line. 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.200 But you know, just for you big guy. I mean, 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.720 I know offensive tackles are generally all big, but you know, 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.560 just Trump Brown. What is your impression to him as 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.440 as an offensive tackle in the NFL and just the 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.240 pure size that he has. Yeah, well, you love the 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:18.560 size that Trent Brown has. He's massive, long, athletic. He's 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.839 moving over to left tackle again. That's you know, somewhere 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.640 where those quick guys are going to be defensive end. 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.360 You're talking, you know, Miles Garrett, people like that. I 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.800 really liked him at right tackle. Um, I think his 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.160 feet were fit for right tackle. Need to watch him 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:32.880 a little bit more at left tackle. I don't know, 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.320 you know how I feel with him over there. I 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.719 think he's struggled in a few aspects. You know, some 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.560 of those reach blocks are on the outside zone that 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.240 you know we talked about earlier. Struggled to get over 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.680 there a little bit. So, you know, maybe work on 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.440 his feet a little bit. But I do like what 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.120 I see from him in camp. Pass protections awesome. He's 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.840 got such size you can't get around the guy. Once 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:54.640 he's got his hands on you. I mean he's really 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.840 locked in. So well, one more for you. I mean 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:58.960 you mentioned that the zone, you know, the outside zone, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.240 and that's been a running rap that they've done a 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.320 number of times. I mean it continued today. I thought 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.760 a little bit more inside. But what can you just 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.680 tell us a little bit of insight in terms of 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:09.880 the outside zone kind of scheme, you know, going back 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:11.720 to the Broncos in the day, but you know, just 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.400 from the offensive lines perspective, because I think yesterday Evan 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.560 had you know, some good points that it's it has 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.479 to all work in conjunction and timing, and that takes 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.400 time to wrap into practice and to get on the 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.560 same page. But you know, just from your experience and 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.920 what you've seen, what stands out to you about those 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.840 outside zone kind of runs and that scheme that they 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.719 seem to be really heavily using. Well, outside zone is 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.159 an amazing play. It's simple, it's basic. But when it 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.599 gets down to the blocking scheme of it, I mean 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.680 those guys have to be able to read the defensive line. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.080 You know, if I have a three technique and he 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.480 shoots inside, I have to understand that when I'm at 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.520 right guard, I need to be able to work through 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.040 that guy so I can get to the back of 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.320 that I'm working too. And so you know, it's a 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.640 scheme that requires you to have really really athletic offensive linemen, 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.320 really quick offensive linemen. I don't necessarily know if we 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.120 have the quick offensive line like that, but they're so 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.400 skilled they understand what they're doing and where they're out 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.200 on the field. That outside zone can come together really, 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.359 really nicely, especially if you get the wide receivers on 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.159 the outside who can maintain their block so you can 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.520 get to the outside there. I mean, that's what it's for. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.800 You want to you want to get leverage on those guys. So, yeah, 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.120 we've talked about that on the show quite a bit 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:23.000 about the outside zone scheme, trent On. WHENU you know, 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.720 some of these bigger guys that maybe are built more 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.320 for men or gap blocking, and now they are transitioning 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.840 to this outside zone scheme, and I'm with you. I'm 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.640 interested to see how those bigger guys handle it, because 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.760 you know, Cole Strange is drafted, is a great combine athlete, 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.320 ran a lot of outside zone at Chattanooga. That that's 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.159 his bread and butter. That's why he's here is because 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.279 of how athletic he is. But some of these other 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.880 holdovers from what was really a downhill power type of 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.240 scheme before. It's going to be interesting to see if 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.560 those guys transition into it and who might be an 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.800 odd man out there because of that, And it's probably 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.120 more of a Patriots unfiltered topic. But the most athletic 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.719 lineman they probably we had with Shack Mason, who played 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.200 in a triple option and decided that he was too expensive. Right, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.280 and now you have Michael Owen use some questions about, 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.600 you know, how his athleticism will hold up if this 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.440 is in fact the wholesale change in. Of course there's 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.400 Bill Belichick was asked about it this morning and said, 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:14.920 you know, we are going to be installing that other 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.040 stuff we've just been doing this first. We'll see how 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.080 true that is. But I think tomorrow is setting up 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:20.920 to be a big day. Today a little bit here 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.040 nor there, a couple I think turns Mitchell got his 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.480 hands on and I think at least one interception, so 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.400 he did stand out again. But otherwise, you know, not 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.400 a totally eventful day. But I think tomorrow is the 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.480 big one. So we will be back Tomorrow, Thursday, Friday 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.760 night in stadium practice, Probably not that much going on, 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.520 so I think if you're thinking tomorrow's the day, and 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.920 if you're bad about that Miami opener and the heat 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:43.720 down there, it's supposed to be just as hot here, 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.080 so I think it'll be a good preparation for that 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.640 game in the opening week. So that'll do it for 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.280 us for today on Wednesday. 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