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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bloomberg Law Podcast. I'm June Grosso. Every

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Speaker 1: day we bring you insight and analysis into the most

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Speaker 1: that the Rushia investigation is a witch hunt, President Trump

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Speaker 1: has maintained that he would be willing to sit down

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Speaker 1: for an interview with Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Speaking about

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Speaker 1: it earlier this year, I would love to speak. I

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Speaker 1: in fact against my lawyers, because most lawyers they never

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Speaker 1: speak on editing. I would love to speak now. In

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Speaker 1: an interview with Associated Press, Trump's lead lawyer, Rudy Giuliani

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Speaker 1: did say that Trump will not answer federal investigators questions

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Speaker 1: But about a half an hour ago on Air Force One,

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Speaker 1: Trump against it. He's open to a Muller Q and

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Speaker 1: a under the right circumstances, joining me. As William Banks,

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Speaker 1: Professor at Syracuse University Law School, So, Bill, unless you

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Speaker 1: can follow the bouncing ball, you can't really keep track

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Speaker 1: of what the what the president and his attorney are

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Speaker 1: saying about this. But let's talk about written questions. That

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Speaker 1: I imagine that's certainly his lawyers are pushing hard in

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Speaker 1: that direction, both with the Muller team and in their

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Speaker 1: inclined not only to disregard his lawyer's advice on many occasions,

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Speaker 1: So why would Giuliani be ruling out in his latest pronouncement,

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Speaker 1: be ruling out written questions and answers. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: why that's the way it started between ken Starrnville Clinton

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Speaker 1: what is Mueller's the advantage to Muller in allowing written

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Speaker 1: we have to remember that Mueller has many sources to

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Speaker 1: what Mr Giuliani is called the perjury trap. And you

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Speaker 1: the anonymous op ed. President Trump just said that he

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Speaker 1: So is an investigation by the Justice Department in order here? Well,

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Speaker 1: not only the op ed, but the publication of the

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Speaker 1: a professor at Syracuse University Law School. Today is the

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Speaker 1: Pader Ginsburg. This is not political, this is about Justice Ginsberg.

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Speaker 1: you're asking me to after having read those comments. You're

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Speaker 1: just about every minute of these hearings, right, Greg, as

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Gregg. That's Gregg's store. He's the Bloomberg

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