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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Jetty and Gee arms Wrong Get.

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Speaker 2: It live from the studio Sea signor Teep within the

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Speaker 2: bowels of the Armstrong and Giddy Information Complex.

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Speaker 1: This is the Armstrong in Getty Show Live, Tuesday, October

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Speaker 1: twenty second, the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: This morning, laboring under the tutelage of Honorary General Manager,

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Speaker 1: the Poles is in. I don't want to hear another

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Speaker 1: stinking word about the polls. I can wait till the

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Speaker 1: two weeks from Tuesday. Whatever it is enough analysis. I

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Speaker 1: believe mister Armstrong is approaching the studio rapidly. I saw

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Speaker 1: the the text, Michael, could you interpret that for me?

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Speaker 1: Is on as well? Yeah, he should be on his way. Great, Well,

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Speaker 1: I hate to get a head of steam going have

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Speaker 1: him walk in interrupt with this gibberish as often happens. Katie,

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Speaker 1: I'm not wrong, but am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: No'm not gonna argue with you on that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah oh there, right, yeah, yeah, anyway, yeah, okay, oh

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Speaker 1: hey there's Jack play the door. My hey, it is Hey,

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Speaker 1: look it's Jack. What's the giggling about. You're walking around

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Speaker 1: you break giggling and everybody looks at you. I've had

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Speaker 1: that happen before. You're talking about the World Series coming up?

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Speaker 1: Love that Yankees? Uh, what you do? I'm going to

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Speaker 1: get the Dodgers had today. That's my goal is go

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Speaker 1: to the mall and get a today. Wow. Well that

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Speaker 1: heavily on the Yankees, folks. That's right, that's right. I

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Speaker 1: do have that effect. Superhuman, your your Greek godlike ability

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Speaker 1: to alter the outcome of events. You are the god

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Speaker 1: of screwing things. What would it be your superpower as what? Well,

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Speaker 1: you're the cooler. It's an odd gift. Yeah, Jack's a cooler.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have rooted for many very hot teams throughout the

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Speaker 1: many years we've been on the air that then lost. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I bought a forty nine Ers hat when they

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Speaker 1: were undefeated last year and then they lost like four

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Speaker 1: games in a row until I burnt my hat in

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Speaker 1: the grill, and then they started winning again the super Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's cause and effect, folks. Yeah, yeah, it's exactly. It's science.

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Speaker 1: Believe the science. I believe science. That phrase, Oh that

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Speaker 1: makes my skin get up. No kidding, no kidding. We

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Speaker 1: are two weeks today from the presidential election. That's pretty exciting,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like the closing arguments are going to

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Speaker 1: be stupid.

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Speaker 4: We can talk about that later.

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Speaker 1: Our general manager, for what it's worth, was the polls

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Speaker 1: is then I don't want to hear another stinking word

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Speaker 1: about them.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, all of them. Okay, if anybody's going to

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Speaker 4: bring them up, it just should be.

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Speaker 1: They're tied and doesn't look like they're going to be

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Speaker 1: anything butt tied on election day, So there you go.

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Speaker 1: I do have what I think will be some interesting

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Speaker 1: information about polling that I think most people don't understand.

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Speaker 1: If you would like to be more knowledgeable, stay with us.

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Speaker 1: The closing arguments, among other things, seem to be the

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Speaker 1: last twenty four hour news cycle was minimum wage, which

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Speaker 1: makes me insane. I like it being front and center

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Speaker 1: is an issue because it's a good basic economics issue,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that the sitting vice president and decent

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Speaker 1: you couldn't be more pandering argument that people can't live

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Speaker 1: on fifteen thousand dollars a year that's that's starvation wages.

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Speaker 4: Minimum wage needs to be racent.

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Speaker 1: It's just it makes me so crazy, But that works

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Speaker 4: You got leaders going around, tell them then, the minimum

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Speaker 1: To live on, right, it will support a family of

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Speaker 1: four on obviously, anybody who does anything whatsoever. You go

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Speaker 4: The mirror ought to be able to that ought to.

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Speaker 1: Be able to feed a family of four because you

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Speaker 1: Some positions are really low skilled, but you need a

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Speaker 4: Wage to do that stupid job.

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Speaker 1: You give it to a college kid or a high

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Speaker 1: That are side of the argument's always made the best

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Speaker 1: and refer to these jobs in that way. It's not

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Speaker 1: an insult. It's a wonderful thing. It's a springboard. It's

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Speaker 1: you'd not be littling little league by calling it little

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Speaker 1: year olds couldn't play in the majors. They can't. They're chill,

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Speaker 1: they don't have the skills. Starter jobs are a wonderful thing.

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Speaker 1: They're a stepping stone. What do you, stowe, I almost

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Speaker 1: do you Poor people who haven't fully thought this through

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Speaker 4: So you got, uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You need somebody to answer your phones at your business,

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Speaker 1: much to the job. You need somebody to answer your

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Speaker 1: to help people understand. And I'm not talking about you

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Speaker 1: It's our challenge. The reason I bring it up is, uh.

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Speaker 4: Minimum wage is starvation wages. Blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're buying it, put down your delicious paste,

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Speaker 1: wipe off the drool, and go vote for Kamala Harris. Well,

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Speaker 1: well you shouldn't, actually, because your minimum wage job will

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Speaker 1: And we've tried it in California recently and the mask

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Speaker 4: But it isn't going to help you in general.

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom just put tens of thousands of fast food

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Speaker 1: artificially pushing the minimum way tire. That is the simple truth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is a pretty stupid system. So you're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to say it privately. Okay, this is just between us friends.

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Speaker 1: The greatest thinkers of the Enlightenment, which included our founding fathers,

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Speaker 1: So you can say landed white males if you want.

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Speaker 1: Race got nothing to do with it. Sex has nothing

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Speaker 1: if you don't get what we've been talking about, you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't vote. You're too dumb. Now back to the usual

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Speaker 1: tone of voice. Okay, let's start the show Officially. I'm

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Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this it is How

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Speaker 1: did it already get to be? Tuesday, October twenty second,

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Speaker 1: We approve of this program intelligent me that was not elitist,

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Speaker 1: because that would imply that, like the first the top

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Speaker 5: At mark, it was announced that more than four hundred

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Speaker 5: and seven elevens in the US will be closing by

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Speaker 5: the end of the year. These seven elevens are closing

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Speaker 1: Roller meats, that's a good term, roller meats pressure. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, maybe they're changing their model AnyWho.

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Speaker 1: It's actually mildly interesting why they're closing hundreds of seven elevens.

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Speaker 1: in line with them all the time buying other things?

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Speaker 1: abhors a vacuum. I mean into that vacuum will flow Chinese,

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Speaker 1: Russian Iranian and North Korean power quicker and you can

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Speaker 1: say apocalypse anyway, What a cheery discussion this is. Well,

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Speaker 1: and if you care about American interest, having the bricks

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Speaker 1: plus group be the dominant power on Earth is not

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Speaker 1: going to help your job or anything you care about.

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Speaker 1: So complete change of topic here, if we may the

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Speaker 1: question of polling, and you know who's got it right

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Speaker 1: and wrong, and how the election looks. Well, I've refuse

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Speaker 1: to discuss any specific polling, but I've been reading a

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Speaker 1: fair amount about the polling as a science and what

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Speaker 1: the current polsters are trying to accomplish. And the one

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Speaker 1: thing I want to layter rest is, and I hear

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Speaker 1: this fair amount on the right, kind of the populist right,

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Speaker 1: is that pollsters are intentionally trying to screw Trump and

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Speaker 1: make them look bad, whether to depress turnout or because

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Speaker 1: they don't like Trump or what have you. And I

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Speaker 1: happen to know I have a very close relative who

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Speaker 1: worked for a while in a polling organization, one you've

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Speaker 1: heard of, and they are desperate, desperate to be accurate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm not a cynic about polls, the big

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Speaker 1: major ones that they usually use for the averages. Right,

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Speaker 1: They've got so much interest in being right, that's the best.

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Speaker 4: Keep the model.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, keep in mind that they do research and polling

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Speaker 1: three hundred Well, they take vacations with three hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty five days a year for all sorts of political

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Speaker 1: and corporate interests, governments and just you name it. And

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Speaker 1: accuracy is their sales pitch, and so they're desperate to

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Speaker 1: get it right. It's just very, very difficult these days

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Speaker 1: on three ish different levels. Number One, reaching people because

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Speaker 1: of technological change. And then the people you can reach

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Speaker 1: more easily than others tend to be demographically and psychographically

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Speaker 1: different than the people who are more difficult to reach,

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Speaker 1: So that's a serious challenge. And then you get into

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Speaker 1: kind of the multi level quandary of who is going

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Speaker 1: to actually vote because that changes, And that's like, that's

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Speaker 1: what keeps them up at night, because you can.

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Speaker 4: Pull like every single.

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Speaker 1: Voting person in America, well a registered voter, likely voter

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Speaker 1: in America, every single one You're sample sizes one hundred

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Speaker 1: million people in UK. Say we pulled these hundred million

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Speaker 1: people and fifty one percent of them are voting for

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Speaker 1: Trump forty nine percent Kamala it's it's over, folks. But

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Speaker 1: then turnout is going to be very different then what

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Speaker 1: they said that even if they said they were absolutely

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Speaker 1: likely going to vote. And so they do all this

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Speaker 1: complicated sociological and technical research on who actually turns out

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Speaker 1: in what districts, what sort of person blob, what age,

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Speaker 1: all that, and they're trying they put together these complex

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Speaker 1: algorithms trying to project who's actually going to vote, and

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Speaker 1: it's really really hard. And then you've got people who

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Speaker 1: who like to mess with folsters. I've done it at

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Speaker 1: least once myself, and just to be contrary, because you're

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Speaker 1: annoyed by one aspect of it or another, you give

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Speaker 1: them an incorrect answer. So have you have you done?

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Speaker 1: Have you done that with like big political stuff? I've

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Speaker 1: done it with like stuff that doesn't matter, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think I've ever done it with big politics thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I stuck around for a politics poll,

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Speaker 1: but like, you know, hey, just a quick poll from

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah corporation.

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Speaker 4: Do you eat potatoes in your house? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of potatoes. How many potatoes do you think

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Speaker 1: you eat? I don't know, five pounds a day? You

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Speaker 1: know something like that. I can't, you know, I wish

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Speaker 1: I could remember the specifics. It would really help to

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Speaker 1: us story to get a potato right now. I really

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Speaker 1: never stopped. I sought my alarm at night to get

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Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and need another potato.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I wake up and think, you know what

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Speaker 1: I need? I need another potato, and I get out,

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Speaker 1: I go to the kitchen.

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Speaker 4: I brush my teeth with potatoes. I'd bathe in potatoes.

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Speaker 1: I send my kids to school with a sack of

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Speaker 1: fll of potatoes real lunch. Uh. No, I've actually been

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Speaker 1: pulled several times because I have done it out of

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Speaker 1: curiosity about the process, and so I'm on some sort

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Speaker 1: of list. But yeah, I can't remember. It was some

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Speaker 1: sort of issues pulling, and they said it would take

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Speaker 1: two minutes, and it was like four minutes into it,

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Speaker 1: and right they're like, what do you think of coastal erosion?

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Speaker 1: Favor more water less land? Yes, sir, I can't remember

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Speaker 1: what the hell it was. It was some obscure thing,

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Speaker 1: and I was done. I was through caring, but didn't

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Speaker 1: want to hang up anyway, that's funny. Anyway, I suppose

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Speaker 1: we could get into more detail, but set a Stanford

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Speaker 1: University political scientist, because of the shift of black and

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Speaker 1: Latino voters toward Trump, the proliferation of online surveys, it's

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Speaker 1: all creating potential sources of additional error because they're just there.

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Speaker 1: The patterns of yesteryear that they used to make accurate

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Speaker 1: turnout predictions are just way up in the air. So

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Speaker 1: he says we're headed for a disaster in terms of polling.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, Mark Alpern.

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Speaker 1: I watch his news round up every day because he

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Speaker 1: has all these posters and various people on every afternoon.

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Speaker 4: I watch it.

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Speaker 1: And his big thing he's saying right now is he says,

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Speaker 1: I want everybody right now watching everyone be prepared for

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Speaker 1: your favorite candidate to lose. I want everybody to be

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Speaker 1: prepared for their favorite so it doesn't come as a surprise,

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Speaker 1: because it could. It could be a landslide either direction

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Speaker 1: in the electoral College. Yeah, as things stand right now,

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Speaker 1: a landslide very easily for Harris or Trump. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take crutch and so be prepared for your candidate to lose.

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Speaker 1: It's not just like, how could that possibly happen?

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Speaker 4: Easily? Very easily. It could happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I wish more people could hear this conversation

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Speaker 1: for multiple reasons. But uh yeah, because there will be

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Speaker 1: good cries of outrage. Trump was ahead by half a point.

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Speaker 1: How could he have lost Wisconsin? Right? Well, because polling's

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Speaker 1: the best that we got. But it's not very good. No,

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Speaker 1: and that's all that's within the margin of error, which

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Speaker 1: means error.

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Speaker 4: Which means it could have been wrong.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. Yeah, but there's a lot of money and

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Speaker 1: a lot of clicks to be had by alleging nefarious activity. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've never been particularly worried about polls being unfair. That's

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Speaker 1: of all the things I worry about going on in

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Speaker 1: politics in America, that's not one for the reasons you

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Speaker 1: just stated.

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Speaker 4: They have so much reason to want to be accurate.

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Speaker 1: You know how much money you would make if you

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Speaker 1: emerged as the clear most accurate polling organization. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'd be so rich you wouldn't care who won election. Right.

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Speaker 1: We've got Katie's headlines on the way and lots of

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Speaker 1: good stuff today trying to find out I heard yesterday

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Speaker 1: do you know Andrew Sullivan, gay conservative brighter pundit dude? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I read Andrew in a long time. He's a super

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Speaker 1: smart guy. Yeah, he doesn't like Trump at all, but

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Speaker 1: I saw him right over the weekend. Anybody who thinks

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Speaker 1: that Colin Kamala, a S Vice president making a joke

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Speaker 1: about Arnold Palmer's large junk or the McDonald's drive through

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Speaker 1: hurt him as opposed to help him, doesn't understand the

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Speaker 1: Trump thing at all. And I would agree, No, they don't. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you think this clearly unhinged and people will recognize it,

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Speaker 1: are you kidding?

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Speaker 4: He killed with all three of those things.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk about some of that stuff

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Speaker 1: and the most dishonest ad I've ever seen. You're in

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Speaker 1: favor of getting rid of misinformation disinformation democrats? You are

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Speaker 1: really I'd like to chat with you next hour, please,

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Speaker 1: But first let's get the lead story with Katie Green

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Speaker 1: who's reporting what Katie?

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Speaker 2: Thanks?

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Speaker 3: Guys, Starting with the New York Times. It's leaders are dead,

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Speaker 3: it's ranks are depleted, yet Hamas remains hard to defeat.

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Speaker 1: Hmm. Oh you gotta say defeated. I mean because it

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Speaker 1: was rhyming really beautifully fake news. Yeah, well they're pretty defeated. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would like to read that.

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Speaker 4: Where was that? That's New York Times. Okay, I will

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Speaker 4: check that out.

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Speaker 3: NBC Elon Musk's one million dollars swing state voter lottery

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Speaker 3: falls into legal gray area according to experts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe brought this up yesterday and made an excellent point.

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Speaker 1: The whole people spend more money on that all the time,

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Speaker 1: on ads to try to convince you to sign a petition.

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Speaker 4: That's okay. But if he just says, hey, I'll give a.

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Speaker 1: Million dollars randomly to people, so go out and sign it.

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Speaker 4: That's a crime somehow.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, every every lefty news outlets is it legal? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling we'll find out. Yes, it's perfectly legal.

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Speaker 1: He's just having people sign a petition, and he's making

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Speaker 1: a little a contest, right, it's the idea that he's buying,

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Speaker 1: you know, a petition or whatever you're telling me.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't happen all the time. That's what's the difference.

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Speaker 1: If you spend one hundred million dollars on billboards and

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Speaker 1: ads and sending people to my door, it's the same thing. CNN.

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Speaker 3: Both candidates take millions in donations from elderly dementia patients.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, how does that work?

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Speaker 3: This this is going along with the non stop barrage

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Speaker 3: of text messages that both candidates are sending people for donations,

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Speaker 3: and apparently they're getting more of the elderly and the

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Speaker 3: sick than anything.

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Speaker 1: Man. Thanks, I hope they stop on my phone after

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Speaker 1: the election. It's just annoying.

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Speaker 3: From the Washington Post, housing costs are rising everywhere, but

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Speaker 3: especially in the Swing States.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a number of people have made that point that

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Speaker 1: the housing situation is even worse inflation, all the stuff

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Speaker 1: that matters to the election. It's worse in the Swing

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Speaker 1: States than on average.

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Speaker 4: From the Independent.

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Speaker 3: Music may speed up recovery from surgery, according to scientists.

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt Unleash's positive brain chemicals and hormones

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Speaker 1: in ways. We probably are just just scratching the surface

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Speaker 1: of understanding.

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Speaker 3: From ABC News, woman stuck upside down between two boulders

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Speaker 3: trying to retrieve her phone freed after seven hours.

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Speaker 4: Doe, I saw this video. We got to go into

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Speaker 4: this story. I got more detail on it coming up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're meme of the day. It's the picture of

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Speaker 3: baby Yoda and he's squinting. That says apparently referring to

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Speaker 3: screaming kids in a store as seaman demons is not

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Speaker 3: publicly acceptable.

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Speaker 1: You wow, wow, No it's not. It's not on the

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Speaker 1: show either. It's a worse turn I've ever heard.

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Speaker 3: And finally from the Babylon B sixth woman added to

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Speaker 3: the cast of the view.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: Oh I like that growing ideas that he's not much

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Speaker 1: of a man.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen the airport that's outlawed? Long hugs. That's

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Speaker 4: another thing we need to talk about later.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty