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Do you know that she was being 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.160 so weird to me? 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.400 But I have to remember that, you know, I have 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.200 to put up my professional my profile, my professional mask. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.080 I have to take off my gesterre mask that I 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.520 work for Patreon, put on my professional mask, my blazer, 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:11.120 my tie, my Brooks Brother's crisp non iron white shirt 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.400 that I got it's three for you know, three for 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.120 three seventy five, and I have to get into the office. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.519 I'm on the subway. I'm getting off at Penn station. 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.920 I'm crossing the street almost getting hit by a taxi 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.720 cab Allah opening montage of Delaware's products so I can 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.800 get into the studio and report the news. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.639 Quite frankly, when I'm doing a regular episode, I feel 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:34.839 like I'm the President of the United States giving a price, 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.160 feel like I'm giving a press conference. Everyone's going to 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.160 be picking apart every single word. There's going to be 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.560 multiple debates about like what I really meant by certain phrases, 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.799 and the pressure is on in a huge way. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.200 Whereas when we're recording Patreon, it is Madonna in the 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:54.919 Truth or Dare documentary simulating a blowjob with a water bottle. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.560 That is what that is what Patreon episodes are. And listen, 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:00.359 if you know, you. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.079 Know, if you know you know, can we talk about 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.480 how Madonna's like whole thing is like I'm going to 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.760 simulate sex, Like she found out out one time and 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.520 she was like, I'm never gonna stop simulating sex. I'm 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:12.919 fucking crazy. I'm Madonna. 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.680 I'm never gonna stop simulating sex. I'm never gonna stop 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:20.160 referencing Catholicism. 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.160 Okay, all right, this is an interesting timing episode. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.560 Interesting timing, Sam, How are you feeling. 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.280 I'm feeling mixed. So we found out this week that 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.800 the show I write for After Midnight on CBS is 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.880 being canceled. So it was a weird week, a very 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:42.960 weird week, and it's mostly a bummer. It's hard to 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:47.960 talk about, but it's a big bummer because, like I 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.840 do feel like the show, the group of writers was 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:57.520 so fun and like to get a space to actually 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:02.040 do like fun, silly, weird alt comedy and have it 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.400 be like through the CBS lens was like kind of crazy. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.840 And I'm like feeling a little bit like damn, is 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.800 this ever gonna happen again? I even feel like I 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:18.479 don't know, like the working for head regular Joe Firestone 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.440 is the privilege of a lifetime, and it is like 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.840 it's a bummer because I'm like, what's yeah, no one 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.520 knows what's next. It's it's just a bummer. And like 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.920 they're not even like they're just getting rid of the 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.000 time slot now, like they're not even going to put 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:33.800 a new show in. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.320 Like, oh they aren't. I didn't know if that was excited. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:38.479 So does that mean there's going to be like a 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:39.360 rerun of something. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.960 There's gonna be like infomercials, like what yeah, okay, I'm 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:49.800 logging in and buying a treadmille. It's like fully like 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.920 local affiliates and whoa, it's they're just getting rid of 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:55.400 that the twelve thirty slot. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.359 Well, I just want to say everyone involved in that 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.960 show truly did the impossible, which is take a late 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.159 night show on network television that is a reboot of 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:11.919 a previous show that was very of its time. 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.080 Let's face very of its time. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.160 It's very difficult to reboot something like that and make 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.560 it relevant. And launched a new show in the midst 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:24.640 of sort of like an uninspiring late night you know, ecosystem, 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:30.280 and did it without like huge big name a list celebrities, 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:36.360 without you know, gimmicks where Sidney Sweeney is lip syncing 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:41.640 to Chapel Roone and really like in a very kind 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:46.240 of like throwback way, and listed real comedians and the 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:50.960 mix of up and comers and big names and actually 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.320 like made a funny show that was funny from the beginning. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.200 Yeah, it's such a there's just like not outlets for 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.720 comedians to do this type of thing. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.600 So I was saying before we started recording that this episode, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:08.640 this conversation is giving me such intense deja vus of 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:13.400 when we recorded our Patreon app after Gawker shut down. 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:14.560 So for anyone. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.279 I can't remember how much of this was talked about 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.039 on a main episode versus Patreon, but from like twenty 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:24.760 twenty one to twenty twenty three, I guess I was 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:30.279 an editor at the reboot of Gawker that relaunched under 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.120 new ownership, and then it was shut down two years later. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.440 And it's occurring to me think of the parallels the 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.839 time frame the reboot, like the time frame exact, same 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.440 time frame exacts. It was a reboot of something that 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.719 was popular in like the twentyds and early twenty tens. 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.520 It was a job that was unlike any other job 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.960 that existed in that industry. It's like, there's no other 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.479 late night show that does what the sort of like 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.120 old comedy thing that After Midnight did, and there's no 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.160 other like website that had the like sort of like 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.960 funky sensibility that that Cocker did. It's not like either 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.480 of us could then be like, Okay, great, so I'll 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.040 just I'll just go to this other, you know, similar 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:18.800 place both you know, sort of like women boss head 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:24.480 writers that we became good friends with, like various sort 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.480 of like tight knit group of co workers. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.560 Yeah, there are a lot of similarities. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.160 Probably similar size staff like it's and especially the timeframe too, 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.960 It's like it was basically like between a year and 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.800 a half and two years for both of them. Yeah, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:42.120 industries that are in crisis, to say the least, like 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:47.280 this sort of halfway point between. I mean not not 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.920 to invoke the word journalism, but I just mean, like 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.360 there's it's it's like funny news commentary. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.400 Yeah, it's funny news commentary. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.160 Of the type that you know more and more is 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:04.160 being replaced by talk and by influencers and whatever else, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.600 and listen, the world goes on. I'm not saying that 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:11.160 I think we should freeze the state of culture in 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:16.840 twenty thirteen and not allow people to innovate. But it's 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:17.840 just a bygone era. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:22.280 It's a bygone era. And even like it's so I 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.760 don't know, like even little stuff like like just like 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.280 going to the paramount law is like, well this is 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:32.280 fun kind of totally totally like what do you mean, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.160 I'm not allowed to come here anymore. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.840 Something people don't talk about is how when a job ends, 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.800 you stop being a human person in the eyes of 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.680 the entity that once gave you that job, Like it's 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.640 really interest is your badge stops working, and you no 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.360 longer if you actually and if you like, you know, 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.680 open the door and go in, you will be arrested. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.600 Like you are no. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.280 Longer seen as a person in the eyes of the 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:57.040 Paramount law. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.760 It's so weird to the weird. This is weird because 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.920 we know now the show is not coming back, and 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.520 yet the show is going till mid June, and so 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.160 it's like, what is the vibe going to be? Like 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:11.760 I sort of think. 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.440 That it'll be fun, Like there's gonna be this sort 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:19.080 of you know, we're all it's gonna be over soon anyway, 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:20.560 So why not like take risks? 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.200 Why not throw stuff at the wall? That's the hope. 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:28.000 I mean the classic is the Conan like last week 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:29.520 or whatever, when he was just like spent as much 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:34.199 money as he possibly could. There's like something too, to 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.439 go in Wild, to go in Buck Wild, And I'm 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.920 gonna miss the Paramount Lot. Jim. It's frozen in nineteen 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.679 ninety five in a way that you it literally should be. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.600 A historic So I didn't know you went to the 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.319 gym in the Paramount Lot. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:55.720 Oh of course, Well well yes, and me and Jason Ridder. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.480 Oh my god, you know I mean, we've talked about 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.440 Jason ridd but you know, I once saw him at 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.360 a bar and Los Angeles, at where Rachel Pegrim hosts 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:04.600 her show what's that place called? 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:11.360 Oh covell Well he that man handsome, handsome, handsome, handsome, 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.760 handsome and sweet. Now that is a cutie right there, 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.320 cutie pie, sweetie pie kind I got it all. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:25.720 Oh perfect, sorry body, boyish face, boyish face, gorgeous, smart, 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:30.760 talented wife. Yes, beautiful marriage is able to sort of 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:35.079 like be publicly romantic in a way that isn't cringey. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:37.800 Man of the people goes to the Paramount Lodge. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.199 Man of the people goes to the Paramount Lodge. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.920 Him when he could go to Equinox. Oh, I just 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:47.880 know his as voted for Bernie Sanders. If you doubted 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:53.000 that for even one second, fool, Yeah, no, I'm addicted 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.360 to him. I'm trying to think. Oh yeah. The other 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.720 thing about losing the job now is that, like the 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.760 one big difference between the where the parallel stop is 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.200 that I moved to La for it. That's true, And 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:09.200 I'm sort of like, wait, what, Like I'm like having 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:13.559 to reckon with like do I stay here? Do I leave, 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.040 Like what's I'm like so confused. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.560 People keep texting me art is Sam moving back, and 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.240 I'm like, I'm giving him three days And then I'm 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.439 asking I very intentionally have not asked you, Like when 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.559 you told me that this was happening, I didn't immediately 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:29.880 respond like sorry an act. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.560 It's really a confusing thing because there's so much of 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.920 LA that I feel like, like, one, it was like 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.000 a lot of work to get settled here and to 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.880 like figure everything out. Yeah, and now I'm like there 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:47.360 is more to glean from this town. But also like 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:51.959 I love New York, but there's it's it's really complicated. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.120 I mean, there's also something about moving to LA. And 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:56.840 by the way, for people who don't listen to the Patron, 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.280 a good seventy percent of it is New York versus La. 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.559 So buckle in, bitch, bitch, I mean, this whole podcast 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.199 is that's what it's about. That's what it's about. 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.880 So there is something about moving to LA that feels 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.720 like graduating, Like New York is college and La is 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.720 your first job totally. And so it's a very common 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.160 story that you know, someone in our circle moves to 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.640 LA for a job and then the job inevitably ends 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:25.240 and they stay there. Yeah, and so I would understand 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.360 if you wanted to stay. It's complicated because I mean, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.840 we'll talk about LA a little bit in a bit, 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.600 because there's a question about, you know, the sort of 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.800 dreamscape of Los Angeles, California at this particular moment, but 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:45.040 it is in such a weird place. The vibes are 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.559 off in such a way that I can imagine it 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:53.240 would be especially uh not enjoyable to be unemployed there, 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:54.800 even if it was for a short amount of time. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.079 Like there's something about being aimless in LA that is 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:58.920 less romantic than being aimless in York. 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:03.360 Yeah, I'm like curious to see how that feels. To 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:07.080 be honest, I've because even when we have hiatuses, I'm 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.760 like either flying to New York or doing it's like 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.360 feels busy. So I'm like, I'm like, I want to 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.880 know that that darkness I felt in New York when 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.240 I'm like, Okay, it's Tuesday and I haven't had a 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.320 job in three months, Like what am I doing today? 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.800 That's what I'm I'm I'm like wondering if it feels 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:32.559 more hopeless or more hopeful here but my lease is 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.640 still August. I think the end of August, so at 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.600 least i'll have Yeah, you'll definitely be there. 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:45.679 I'm to reflect, well, poor one out if you're listening 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.360 to this, even if it's nine am, poor one out 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.640 for after midnight. And I just want to say thank 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:56.440 you to CBS for giving all comedians opportunities, even if 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:00.480 it was and even if you couldn't find want to 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.679 take over the show out of the various people that 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.920 could potentially do it anyway, should we take our first call? 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.240 Okay, let's say our first call. Okay, all right. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:16.840 Hi, George and Sam. I'm calling because I am currently 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:22.880 attending library school in Los Angeles, California, and I have 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:27.840 converted several other members of my cohort into stradio lab listeners. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:28.320 Thank you. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:33.000 And we were wondering, we're all queer women. We were wondering, 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:38.240 we're on the range of gata strait. The different types 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:44.640 of librarian information sciences people lie. So that's public librarians, 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:50.120 academic librarians, archivists, media archivists, because it's kind of different. 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.120 Oh, in rare books people. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.560 Yeah, Okay, thanks love you guys. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.560 Okay, literally perfect call. So I'm just going to listen 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:04.440 them again. Thank you librarian, academic, librarian, archivist, media archivist, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:05.520 rare books people. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.160 Damn, this is hard. First of all, I want to say, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:15.200 it's funny to attend library school. I understand. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.600 First of all, I love one of my favorite phrases 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.800 the information sciences. 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:25.240 Information science is library school. That's very doctor hospital. I 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.320 go to library school. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.440 One of the most iconic things you can do is 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.800 go to library school. I'm always so obsessed with people 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:35.480 that have a master's in information science and the idea 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.520 that there is a group of queer women all in 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.280 library school that listen to Stradio Lab and potentially have 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.320 a group chat about it where they're like what they 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.560 said is so rare books coded. It fills my heart 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.720 with so much joy. And I just want to tell 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.080 you on this Friday, March twenty eighth, when we're recording this, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:52.920 that you are a star. 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.760 You are a star. We appreciate you, and you fill 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.320 my mind with wonder. You know what you forget that 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.800 people can go to library school and be a group 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.000 of queer women in library school. I feel like when 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.600 you say that, I feel like I'm like literally reading 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.800 Harry Potter like, I'm like, there's magic in the world. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:09.840 No, it is. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.800 I'm so, it's literally it actually brings me hope that 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.840 there is as I'm doing whatever I'm doing here and 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.480 having my protein bar and a seltzer. You know, there 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.360 is an alternate universe where there is literally a group 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.960 of queer women that are learning so much every day 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:29.560 about information science, about rare books, about media archiving, and 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.600 at least at the end of the day we have that. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.840 Damn. I bet their clothing swap goes crazy. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:43.040 Oh my god, all right, public librarian, academic librarian, archivist, 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:47.280 media archivist, rare book. Okay, off the bat media archivist 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:48.200 is the gayest one. 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.960 Really. No, well, I'm tell me your reasoning. I was 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.479 thinking public librarian. 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:58.840 Oh, you're right, Okay, maybe, well, okay, here's the thing though, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:05.800 lepers in society, public librarian obviously is the most kind 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.480 of politically radical, you know if yes, obviously, However, think 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:13.679 about the archetype of a public librarian. It is, you know, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:21.360 kind of like older lady, long skirt, funky wood based jewelry, 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.199 like a little vest that has an apple with a 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.280 worm coming out of it, and as much as to 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:29.560 be clear, I would die for her. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.720 She is straight rather than gay. That's true. If I 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.800 were in the library and I were looking for a 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.719 gay book, I would I would sort of be like like, 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.680 I would almost be like, well, it's for school exactly. 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.040 Yeah, And I think it's like there's also something about 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:50.359 the public librarian being the archetypal librarian, aka the default, 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.960 which makes it inherently in the framework of gay versus 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:56.000 straight that is the norm. 0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:00.800 Doesn't mean she's bad. I'm sure she has a amazing 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.959 center left politics. Totally damn Okay, I like that. So 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:05.879 she's the straightest. 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:10.640 I almost think she's the straightest. Yeah, I almost think 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:11.800 she's the straightest. 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:16.520 I think the librarian scale is hard because it starts 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:17.720 at such a queer place. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.680 I know, I know, And I'm now actually thinking maybe 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.840 Rare Books is the most queer. I mean, come on, rare. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:29.920 Well, it's pretentious, pretentious. It's also like knowing the B sides. 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.760 It's also like putting value in something like you're like 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.400 creating a you're creating like wealth within something that shouldn't 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:37.800 have it. 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.720 Totally okay, So here's my Okay, here's my right ranking 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:47.320 from GATA Straight rare books, media archivist, academic librarian, archivist 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.479 public because I'm like, if there's media archivist, then if 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:54.240 you're an archivist, you're being exclusionary. There is the option 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.800 for media archivists, and you're just an archivist. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:02.680 Are you kidding me? Wait? Okay wait, rare books, rare 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:07.080 books is gayest. Yes, media archivist. Media archivist's next gayist. 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.399 Because media archivist is literally you have an Instagram account. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.520 Media archivist is you have an Instagram account dedicated to 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.520 like Issimiaki fashion photo shoots from the nineties. 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.880 You're literally showing Julia Roberts and you like, she tore 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:19.119 with this exactly. 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:22.960 Then we have academic librarian because to me, it's like 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.159 which is right down the middle, and to me that 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:30.080 is so bisexual and academic librarian you know she's into 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:34.320 Hookoh I'm seeing like the frame glasses, like I'm seeing 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.800 the little frames or even like a woman with spiked hair. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:42.760 Yeah, totally. And then I have archivist. Archivist is just 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.159 like put away your clothes. Yeah, it's kind of thing 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:47.000 about archivist's. 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:51.040 Yeah, it's very like being interested in history in a 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.560 really earnest way without wink. 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.720 Yeah, I'm an archivist, and then I. 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.879 Think last, and then I think straightest is public librariy, 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.560 and just because again that's the archetype of librarian. 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.080 I think. I think that's so genius. I think you 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.760 really nailed that. Thank you. And I don't disagree with 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.360 any of them, and I'm glad we had a discussion 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.920 because at first I needed some convincing. But you're totally right, 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.199 God to be a librarian. I literally like, there's so 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:22.000 many jobs. No, that's team. There's so many jobs where 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.159 you're like, damn, like you can really just do that. Okay, 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:27.880 next call. 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.960 And I'm calling back. It's the girl who wants to 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:36.160 talk about sexless LA. 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:37.840 Sorry, I'll wrap it up. 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.720 I just wanted to you guys to expand on that 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:45.320 if you found it intriguing to do so, on the 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:50.040 sexist nature of LA and one, I just find it interesting. 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.639 And two, I literally have not wanted to have sex since. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.280 The day I got here five years ago. And I 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:57.880 was in a relationship. 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.440 When I got here, so that was a problem. And 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.360 now I'm newly single and have no I. 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.639 Am not inspired to go out there and pursue so 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:13.240 uh yeah, looking to jump start and just want to 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:14.440 know what your thoughts are. 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.719 Overall, Okay, thanks. 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:20.760 I do just want to say this is the second 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.040 part of this caller's call, but the first part is 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.080 there's no way around it three minutes long. So I 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.240 it and so I just I'm playing this as a 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:34.760 tribute to her, and the main gist of it is 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.919 that she wants us to talk a little bit more 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:40.640 about how La is sexless and Sam, you had a 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:41.680 something you wanted to share. 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:43.639 I had something I wanted to share, which I'm not 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:45.960 sure if I said. If I have said this before, 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.800 you're allowed to punch me in the face if you 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:49.480 see me. Yeahs. 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:51.680 If he hasn't been through enough this week, folks. 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:52.400 Lose his job. 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:52.640 Now. 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:54.960 Listeners are going to be chasing him trying to punch 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:55.560 him in the face. 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:01.679 I there's a I in trying to like La. I 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:05.639 was reading Joan Didion's The White Album and there's an 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.359 essay in it about La that you know was written 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:13.000 in like the seventies, and she's talking about how one 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.359 there's all this stuff that feels very relevant where it's 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:19.680 about like the town like it. The industry is failing. 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.919 The industry is failing, the industry as we know it 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:25.040 is gone. And it's funny because that's like nineteen seventy 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.119 three that she's saying this, that everyone in town is 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.480 saying it, so it's just sort of an always that feeling, 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:32.720 always always there. But then she talks about how it's 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.399