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Speaker 2: We are coming at you bikosally per Huge and it's

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Speaker 2: just me and George today, just us. What's up.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're doing a call in show, which we

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling mixed. So we found out this week that

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Speaker 2: It's really a confusing thing because there's so much of

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's say our first call. Okay, all right.

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Speaker 3: Hi, George and Sam. I'm calling because I am currently

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Speaker 4: And we were wondering, we're all queer women. We were wondering,

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Speaker 5: Oh, in rare books people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, literally perfect call. So I'm just going to listen

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Speaker 2: Information science is library school. That's very doctor hospital. I

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Speaker 2: You are a star. We appreciate you, and you fill

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Speaker 1: I'm so, it's literally it actually brings me hope that

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Speaker 2: Damn. I bet their clothing swap goes crazy.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, all right, public librarian, academic librarian, archivist,

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Speaker 2: Really. No, well, I'm tell me your reasoning. I was

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Speaker 2: She is straight rather than gay. That's true. If I

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Speaker 2: Well, it's pretentious, pretentious. It's also like knowing the B sides.

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Speaker 1: Totally okay, So here's my Okay, here's my right ranking

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Speaker 1: Because media archivist is literally you have an Instagram account.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. And then I have archivist. Archivist is just

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Speaker 2: like put away your clothes. Yeah, it's kind of thing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very like being interested in history in a

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Speaker 2: many jobs. No, that's team. There's so many jobs where

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Speaker 6: And I'm calling back. It's the girl who wants to

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to you guys to expand on that

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Speaker 6: And two, I literally have not wanted to have sex since.

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Speaker 6: When I got here, so that was a problem. And

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Speaker 2: I had something I wanted to share, which I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure if I said. If I have said this before,

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Speaker 1: If he hasn't been through enough this week, folks.

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Speaker 2: Lose his job.

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Speaker 2: I there's a I in trying to like La. I

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Speaker 2: in the long run? In a way that's like you

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Speaker 2: it's really true.

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Speaker 1: There's also okay I'm trying to say this without misspeaking,

435
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: but it's like the depictions of sex within like the

436
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: idea of the casting couch. Is there anything less erotic

437
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: than that? Like you are literally taking imagine the most

438
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: kind of like dumpy room you've ever seen.

439
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 2: It's like a.

440
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: Like a conference room with overhead lighting basically, and then

441
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Speaker 1: someone is attempting to infuse sex into that. It's like

442
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: there's in New York and an appropriate sexual relationship is

443
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: like you're in the boardroom and everyone is in blazers

444
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: and both people are powerful and they're just like so

445
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: powerful that they have to fuck.

446
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're like, what's this going to do to

447
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: the firm? And it's like, who fuck the firm?

448
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 10: The firm?

449
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like, yeah, there is. Sex is

450
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: so entwined with like power here that it's not fun

451
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: because you're always thinking like is this Because even if

452
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: you're not coworkers, you're like, well, I could be, like

453
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: I could be co workers with essentially anyone on the

454
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: street right now, and so it's like, well, I can't

455
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: fuck them because I will effuct my coworker. It's very weird.

456
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also it's interesting the way sex is by

457
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 1: default commodified in Los Angeles and Hollywood inherently deuroticizes it.

458
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, oh.

459
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Speaker 1: So you're looking at a naked man or woman or

460
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Speaker 1: a person that's not sexy. That's a billboard, that's a

461
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: movie trailer, that's.

462
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: A movie trailer. You're looking at Chris Pratt. Yeah, and

463
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: you're trying to be turned on.

464
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's not what this is about. This is

465
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: about dollar signs.

466
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Speaker 2: Malma. I feel, yeah, I can feel it happening to me. Really,

467
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: I can feel myself being less horny. Yeah. Yeah, And

468
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: in a way that's like I almost have to remind myself, like,

469
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: don't forget who you are. You're the guy that sexualizes

470
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: everything totally. You're the guy that thinks everything so hot.

471
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Speaker 1: That's like how that happened to me after I got married,

472
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: where I only wanted to have sex with my husband,

473
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: and I had to remind myself, you're gay. Get out

474
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: there and find other men.

475
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: You stupid. All right, call next.

476
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Speaker 11: Call Hey, George and Sam.

477
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Speaker 2: This is Isle in Brooklyn and I'm calling.

478
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Speaker 9: Someone asked me this question a few months ago, and

479
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 9: I think about it all the time, so I wanted

480
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Speaker 9: to see what your take on.

481
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 10: It was pretty simple question.

482
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Speaker 9: What is the most expensive emotion and what is the cheapest?

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Speaker 3: All right? Bye?

484
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: Love that past guest.

485
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: Isle shout out to Ale, what do you think?

486
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Speaker 2: So we talked briefly about this. First thing that came

487
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: to mind is that love is the most expensive, horny

488
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: is the cheapest.

489
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we both independently came up with love

490
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: is the most expensive. It is, you know, potentially obvious answer.

491
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: But of course love makes you act in irrational ways.

492
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: Love makes you sacrifice things you would not otherwise sacrifice.

493
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: Love is not transactional. Love can be unconditional. All these

494
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: things are gonna absolutely rob you of your money, dignity,

495
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: and integrity on a day to day basis.

496
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: So watch out and I would know. Yeah, I hear. Okay,

497
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 2: Love is the album and Horney is the single.

498
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's another expensive emotion. Yeah, I think maybe like

499
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: resentment gnaws at you so much. You know what resentment is.

500
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: It's like you think it's fast fashion, Like you think

501
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: it's an easy thing, but then it's actually full of

502
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: microplastics and it's slowly killing you.

503
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 11: Wow.

504
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: In the enviral, I actually really like that. I like

505
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: that you're I think you're taking this question in a

506
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: different direction than I did, but in a way that

507
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: I really enjoy. Like you're thinking literally like the cost

508
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: of having this emotion.

509
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, whereas you're thinking love is so I think it's

510
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: like rich, unreachable, that it would take so much to

511
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: get to love. Yeah, I see it, Yeah, exactly. Whereas

512
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: horny is more simple. Yeah, I think that makes sense.

513
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of other cheap emotions.

514
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: I had a cheap one that I go back and

515
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: forth on. Okay, yeah, okay, nostalgia. I think you're so

516
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: you get like a burst of nostalgia. I think that's

517
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: a cheap, cheap emotion. But okay, when it's nostalgia from

518
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: smell or taste, I think that's rich. I think that's expensive.

519
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, when you like smell something and you're like whoa,

520
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: and you're like taken back, that's that can be kind

521
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: of crazy because that's like time travel. But when you're

522
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: just like, god, I love the nineties, like let's watch

523
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: you know, the Simpsons, then it's a little like okay, stop. Yeah.

524
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the more personal to you, Yeah, Like, the

525
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: more personal to you it is, the more sophisticated it is,

526
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: and the more relatable words that are, like never forget

527
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: nine to eleven.

528
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we know, honey, you wouldn't let me

529
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: forget it if I tried.

530
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. Yeah, I know one's gonna try. Don't worry,

531
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: we remember, we remember.

532
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: I'm you know.

533
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: Of course, the to me a big open question here

534
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: is where does hate fit into it? And to expand

535
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: on that different forms of hate, like you know, sort

536
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: of like low level snark or criticism. I mean criticism

537
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: is not an emotion, but like you know, sort of

538
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: like disgusted. Like, where do those kinds of like toxic

539
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: negative emotions fit into it? Because on the one hand,

540
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: they are easy to go to as a default. It's

541
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: it's you know, you see something you don't like, immediately

542
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: you recoil. On the other hand, of course, if you

543
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: are filled with hate, that's going to take a toll.

544
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: Well that's what I thought. Your resentment thing was very smart.

545
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: Where I do think hate is similar where it's like

546
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: it actually does cost the most, like m hmm, Like

547
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: I think hate maybe is even more expensive than love

548
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: because it like could ruin you.

549
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: Right, and maybe discussed is more cheap because it's just

550
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: like eh and then you know you move on.

551
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. You ever see people that get like really

552
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: lost in resentment and you're like, yeah, oh god.

553
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: Well, this is something I've been thinking a lot about

554
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: because there is I think the thirties are the resentment decade. Well,

555
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: I guess what it is is resentment builds in your thirties.

556
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Either it solidifies into you just being a miserable person,

557
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: or you battle it and come out of the other

558
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: side and you are satisfied and comfortable with who you are.

559
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you put that live love poster up and

560
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: you say sey lovey exactly.

561
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: And by the way, this has nothing to do with

562
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: your level of success, your attractiveness. People can be the

563
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: President of the United States and be filled with resentment,

564
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: and people can.

565
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: Be you know, a random person.

566
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: Who is you know, does customer service at Sigma, and

567
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: they can be full of love.

568
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: I loved watching that because I was like, Where's how's

569
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: he going to land this? I was like, what what

570
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: is the appropriate random person? And you really? You really

571
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: nailed that. I think I nailed it.

572
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, but I do think yeah, and maybe it's

573
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: even like more thirty, you know, thirty five to forty

574
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: five or something.

575
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: It's not exactly thirties, But do you know what I mean,

576
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: it's I do. It's a time when you just slightly

577
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: only because I don't want to poke holes in your theory.

578
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: I mostly like it. And this podcast is about agreeing,

579
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: of course, but I'm just from personal experience. I feel

580
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: like in I knew people that were so much more

581
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: resentful in their twenties, really because maybe because they were

582
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: like it was like stand up, and it was like

583
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: everyone had this idea of like trying to make it

584
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: before thirty or something, which is a false premise obviously,

585
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: and you kind of have to be turn thirty to

586
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: realize that. But a lot of people I could feel

587
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: like in late twenties people get like clawing and being

588
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: so upset and so jealous and so angry, and then

589
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: in your thirties it's almost like the last scene in

590
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: Mean Girls where all the girls are like, actually we

591
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: like each other and we don't really care that much.

592
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: So I think it depends either way. Resentment.

593
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: It's like, you got to move past it. If you're

594
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: feeling resentful.

595
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: This is a wake up call.

596
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: Literally, it's not like it's not good, it's not sustainable.

597
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: It will not give you anything you are looking for.

598
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: You have to move past it.

599
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: You have to move past it, and you can still

600
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: be critical. Yeah, oh my god, George and I are

601
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 2: such haters. Oh my god, we hate everything, but we

602
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: hate everything with love. That's okay.

603
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 7: Next high sam on George, It's Heidi. This is actually

604
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 7: my second time calling fun exciting.

605
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 10: Love it.

606
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 7: I have two questions. I'll just do the first one

607
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 7: super super quick because I thought it would be fun

608
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 7: and it's more so for George. So my family and

609
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 7: I are going on a super awesome spring break vacation

610
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 7: to greet which I'm so pumped about. And I was like, Oh,

611
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 7: that's fun. It's George's old stumping grounds. So I was like, George,

612
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 7: do you have any you know, recommendations, If you will,

613
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Speaker 7: we're going to creat and appen, so pretty touristy but

614
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 7: very exciting.

615
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 8: Yeah.

616
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 7: So that's the first question. Thanks George, and seconds for

617
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 7: both of you, this is the most important one. So

618
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 7: me and my two long distance bessies love this pod.

619
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 7: We talked about it quite frequently.

620
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 11: And we just really like when you guys are friends,

621
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 11: and we like when other people are friends, you know,

622
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 11: just like cast members of TV shows.

623
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 7: You were big into Broadway, so like Broadway cast, just

624
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 7: like we like when other people hang out and we

625
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 7: enjoy it and it's fun. So we wanted to know,

626
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 7: since you guys are not only podcasts coworkers but also friends,

627
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 7: what do you guys like to do together outside of

628
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 7: the pod that feels like different or you know, when

629
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 7: you just hang out, what what do you like to do? Yeah,

630
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 7: keep doing what you're doing. We love the pod and

631
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 7: by me I mean me and my friends.

632
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 5: Okay, anyway, love you.

633
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Speaker 10: Bye.

634
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Speaker 2: Shout out, shout out. That was sweet. That was very sweet.

635
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a very very quick round of like

636
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: things off the top of my head that I did

637
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: in Athens last time I was there.

638
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: That might be helpful.

639
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: So Athens is I think I've talked about this before,

640
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: but it has been undergoing this like depending on your

641
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: point of view, renaissance or gentrification nightmare for the last

642
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: like five to six years. There was a moment during

643
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: the financial collapse when you know, it was you know,

644
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: the prevailing idea was that the city was in crisis

645
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: and it needed to and like new businesses weren't opening

646
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: and the obviously the economy wasn't going well whatever, and

647
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: then it became sort of like berlinified. Like I've told

648
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: you about how my grandmother's neighborhood, which was like a

649
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: middle class neighborhood she has a one bedroom apartment, has

650
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: now become like the Bushwick of Athens, and she leaves

651
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: her apartment, and it's literally all like expats, people on

652
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Speaker 1: their laptops, like people wearing sort of like head to

653
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Speaker 1: toe kind of.

654
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Speaker 2: Like club club.

655
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Speaker 1: She's just sort of like okay, like going to the

656
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Speaker 1: farmer's market, and so it is. Honestly, people ask me

657
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: all the time for Athens recommendations, and I don't know

658
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: what to say because it is such a different place

659
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: than it was when I lived there, when I was

660
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: also like a teenager. So this latest time, I really

661
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: tried to get a bunch of recommendations for people because

662
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to know, like, which of these new businesses

663
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: are worth it. The answer is not all of them,

664
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Speaker 1: but I did want to shout out that this one

665
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: restaurant called Pharaoh, like a like an Egyptian pharaoh.

666
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: I went to. It was so good.

667
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: It's just like updated Greek classics. But you got to

668
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: make a reservation ahead of time. Sam, when you visit

669
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: will go together. I had the absolute time of my life,

670
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: great wine lists, really good you know, sort of like

671
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: shareable small plates. I was in absolute heaven that entire neighborhood.

672
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: He has become very like Williamsburg ified in a way

673
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: that is honestly pretty alarming because when I was in

674
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: high school, that's literally where the anarchists would hang out

675
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: and it would be like, that's all the protests where

676
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: that's where a lot of the like sort of like

677
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: memorable news stories of protesters clashing with the police happened there.

678
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: And now you go and it's literally like a record

679
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: store that's run by like a chill guy with the mohawk,

680
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: and then the people in it are like Italian tourists.

681
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: It's very strange.

682
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 6: Wo.

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Speaker 1: So, but that restaurant, I have to say, if you

684
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: want to go somewhere that's not a traditional tavarana, which

685
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: you should also go to, and it's something a little

686
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: more contemporary, I would recommend. Another place I had a

687
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: store I went to is this store called It's a

688
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: Shirt and they sell shirts and it's this like really

689
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: cool gal whose dad worked in the garment industry in Greece.

690
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: So then she is like taking sort of like fabrics

691
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: that because she, you know, fabrics that her father would

692
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: use potentially and making these like super cool like Japanese

693
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: cut like cool shirts.

694
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

695
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: And they are much cheaper than the equivalent thing would

696
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: be if you went to like Hopenhagen or something.

697
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: It's a shirt. It's a shirt. Shout out to it's

698
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: a shirt.

699
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Speaker 1: And the final thing I will say is people don't

700
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: know this, but one of the best things you can

701
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: do in Athens and in Greece in general over the

702
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: summer is go to an open air cinema. So they

703
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: have these open air cinemas. Imagine like a giant screen

704
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: with just like you know, chairs and the little bar

705
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: and stuff, and the ones in the center of Athens.

706
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: You can literally look at the Parthenon behind the screen

707
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: of the movie that you're seeing.

708
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: So you can go and watch.

709
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: Like they'll do like a Hitchcock retrospective or something, and

710
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: you can go watch like a classic movie and then

711
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: the Parthenon is right behind that. And oftentimes people people

712
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: will go to Greece and people I think would be

713
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: in the know about these kinds of things, and they

714
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: don't know that that's an option.

715
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: So that is my big recommendation. Beautiful recommendations, George.

716
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: Those are my three, Thank you. And the second question

717
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: was what do we do as friends?

718
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: We party bitch, bitch, We party bitch. We're out on

719
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: the town.

720
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: What I mean, we like, we go to Maxwitter's house, We.

721
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: Go we go to people's houses, or we go to

722
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: dinner and we get drinks and potentially if George isn't tired,

723
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: we go out. That's right.

724
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what, I you know what I

725
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: think in my own life has been a change since

726
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: the pandemic.

727
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: I used to do more like weekend friend trips. Oh

728
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: yeah for you.

729
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty, I was I was getting like an Airbnb

730
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: upstate with four chicas. That was not an like a

731
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: something that was out of the ordinary for me.

732
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Speaker 2: Really, I didn't start really getting into that lifestyle till

733
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: till after pandemic.

734
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Speaker 1: Interesting, I don't know what it is now. I think

735
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: it's a mix. Obviously, everyone's busier, but also everyone's like

736
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 1: taste level has gone up, and suddenly it's not enough

737
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: to just like go to airbnb dot com and click

738
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: the first one and just be like, yeah, we'll figure

739
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: it out. Everyone suddenly wants to make reservations. Everyone wants

740
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: to have like a specific hike planned, which I get,

741
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: but it is it makes things more difficult than when

742
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: you are, you know, twenty five years old and are

743
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: just like excited to be out of the city.

744
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 2: I that was such a scary there's so many moments

745
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: in one's life when you realize like there's been grown

746
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: growing up and I always always am like the last

747
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: one to know. And that was a real one when

748
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: people were like, well, no, I want the I want

749
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: a nice house. Yeah, like I want a chic house.

750
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: And I was like, but we're just like sleeping there

751
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: and listening to music and like having drinks, Like why

752
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: does it matter?

753
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know that if you if something was

754
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: below your standards, you would also speak out.

755
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, my standards were pretty low though, but don't you

756
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: think they're higher now? Yeah? I think they're higher now.

757
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: They are. I'm learning, but I feel like I'm I'm

758
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: like sad that I'm learning total where I'm like, of course,

759
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: like there.

760
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Speaker 1: Was a freedom of not caring in the threshold to

761
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Speaker 1: be satisfied as higher.

762
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Speaker 2: That sucks.

763
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you wake up every day in the default is

764
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, someone better impressed me.

765
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Speaker 2: Today, even like caring about one's apartment, Like no, as

766
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: soon as there was like a moment when it was

767
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Speaker 2: like suddenly we care about our apartments and I like fun,

768
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: I know, like it happened all of a sudden, and

769
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Speaker 2: it used to just be like, no, it's amazing, I

770
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: can pay rent, and now it's like, no, you have

771
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: to have a place that's nice.

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Speaker 11: I know.

773
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: And then you wake up one day and you're like, wait,

774
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: so you've been collecting artisanal knickknacks from your travels since

775
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: you were twenty two. Yeah, you're not just sort of

776
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: going to West Elm.

777
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: It's interesting. It's it's interesting, and I'm like, it's fun.

778
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: I think there's a certain level of like competition can

779
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: and can be helpful and motivating, but it's also a

780
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: little scary. It was the moment was scary when I

781
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: was like, oh, fuck, I have to catch up. I know.

782
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: It's interesting to grow up consuming media about the urban,

783
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: petite bourgeoisi a. La Woody, Allen, et cetera, and have

784
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: it be so foreign and then suddenly, whether you like

785
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: it or not, And honestly, no matter your income level,

786
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: you're sort of just agento having those values.

787
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: You best start believing in love with deep BOUGEOISI.

788
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Speaker 8: You're in.

789
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: Okay, next call.

790
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 9: Hey, they're calling in for the second time from my

791
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 9: northern New Jersey number.

792
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 10: Shout out.

793
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 9: I have a really important question. Do you think that

794
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 9: with Chapel and all of us knowing what her personality

795
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 9: is now, I wanted to see what your thoughts are

796
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 9: and the revisitation of the Lizzo's past of it all,

797
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 9: like is she cool?

798
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: Is she not?

799
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 10: How do we feel?

800
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Speaker 2: Thanks? First of all, shout out to northern New Jersey

801
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: phone number. I don't know why, but.

802
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: Because it's the same. I commented that this caller has

803
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: the same area code that my house did in New Jersey.

804
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, fun, I want to say thank you for

805
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 2: bringing back Lizo's Pass. I've been thinking about it a lot.

806
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: It was recently mentioned on an episode of Keep It,

807
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: which I was really excited about by Louis Ertell Yeah. So,

808
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: for those who don't know, Lizo's Pass is the moment

809
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: when a rising pop star gets so big it has

810
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: to decide which way to go. In Litzo's pass, do

811
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: you go towards Pitchfork and stay cool forever or do

812
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: you go towards Target and make songs for commercials? And

813
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: I find I think Chapel is still at Lisso's pass.

814
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: I think she is delaying her decision by releasing singles only.

815
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: I think we won't know because I think good luck

816
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: Babe was very okay, she's gonna be Pitchfork. She's like cool, Yeah,

817
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: like this is cool. And then the new one, the

818
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: giver is like good, I like it, but I'm like,

819
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: but it could go either way, and I'm like a

820
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 2: little bit and it's like, yeah, I think it's cool.

821
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: It's like about like, you know, giving an orgasm. That's

822
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: like fun, but it's still like I don't know. So

823
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: I think the album is really gonna we can't call.

824
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 2: It's too early to call. We need a full album

825
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 2: before we can say.

826
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: Do you think going country is a way to delay

827
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: Lozzo's pass.

828
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: One hundred percent because you can't both say anything about it?

829
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, country is for the Pitchfork crowd. Country is alternative

830
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: in its own way, and then for the target crowd.

831
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: Country like it's for the target crowd. Country is like comforting,

832
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: but also to be country and alt is scary.

833
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can.

834
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: You basically are having your cake and eating it too.

835
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: It's called the Casey bus Graves effect.

836
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm very curious because at this point she's

837
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: like trying on all these new sounds and styles where

838
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm sort of like, okay, what is your sound? In style,

839
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: like it's it almost feels like look over here, look

840
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: over your look over here, and I'm like, wait, I'm

841
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm I'm surrounded by smoke. I can't tell

842
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 2: where you are or what your deal is. Yeah.

843
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: Do you think Pink was ever at Lozzo's Pass or.

844
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: She just started out Target? I think she started out Target.

845
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: So you think even her early R and B hip

846
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: hop phase was just destined for Target.

847
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: It was still on the radio and it was still

848
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: in the commercials. Yeah, I mean, one thing that is

849
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: I think one thing that's happening to Chapel is that

850
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: she's at Lizo's Pass, but the wind is blowing really

851
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: hard and it's like snowing, and it's like forcing her

852
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: to put like it's trying to make her go towards Target. Really,

853
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: because I really believe because every song, I'm like more

854
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: passionate about this than I've ever been about anything my

855
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 2: whole life, because she every song is in a commercial now.

856
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: And I know it's because the brands are like, she's

857
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: cool enough but popular enough that we can look cool

858
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: and in on it. But it's every commercial has a

859
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: Chapel song. So the wind and the snow. She's going,

860
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: I want to go towards Pitchfork, and she's like, but

861
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: the snow is too high. I have to go towards Target.

862
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: It's so I think the odds are against her, but

863
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: I hope that she can survive Lizo's pass. Yeah, she also.

864
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: Hasn't been claimed by either party because I think at

865
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: this point the Pitchfork, the Pitchfork eistas are skeptical of her,

866
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: and certainly the Target Mom's candlebuyers are skeptical of her.

867
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: And so she is.

868
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: It's like she's on top of the charts, but while

869
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: balancing on a tiny needle, like if one thing goes wrong,

870
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: she could be done forever.

871
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: And I also think that's why she's doing the singles thing,

872
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: to be like like sort of soft change the narrative

873
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: and like let people be like, Okay, I'm calm about

874
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: her now. Now she can really sny album.

875
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: She was on call her Daddy another way that you

876
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: can delay Lizzo's pass.

877
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: What is called her Daddy's like space in the culture

878
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: right now, no one knows. I'm so deeply confused and

879
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm like trying to figure out. Even watching the clips

880
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: of that, I was like am I insane, Like it's

881
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: so bizarre. So that's how I feel about it all. Okay,

882
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: how do you how do you feel about Chapel at

883
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: this stage?

884
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: No, I think you are absolutely right that she's delaying

885
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: Lizzo's pass. I have to say, I'm I'm pro Chapel,

886
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: like I'm just sort of like it. But it took

887
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: me longer than you to get there in the beginning.

888
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: I think because the first song of hers I heard,

889
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: I played, I press played the album and the first

890
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: song was phenomenomenomenon, and honestly, I was like, get this

891
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: off my screen.

892
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: I was so upset.

893
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: People had been telling me to check out Chapel roone

894
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: for so long. I press play that song and I

895
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: and I was wrong. I just want to admit I

896
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: was wrong, But there was something about it that felt

897
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: so rue Paul that then I had to come back

898
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: to it a few months later and realize, actually, this

899
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: is an incredible album which everyone agrees with. And since then,

900
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: I've loved her performances. I think she's fun. I think

901
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: she's a fun figure. I like that she's provocative and controversial.

902
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: I like that sometimes she's a little embarrassing. She's young.

903
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: I like that she's speaking her mind. Everyone is so

904
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, poll tested these days that I say go.

905
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: Off, I say go off, I say go off.

906
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of other people who are at

907
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: Lizzo's pass right now. I mean, do you think Twiggs

908
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: has I do think Twigs chose Pitchfork and and that's

909
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: Twigs chose Pitchfork.

910
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: I think Sabrina Carpenter is all started. Is target is

911
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: target yea, yeah, she's targeted. Tate McCrae is targed at

912
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: Lizzo's past, but she's targeted.

913
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: She was never Pitchfork to begin with. Ever, no one,

914
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: no Pitchfork person was on her side. Yeah you know

915
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: what I noticed? Actually what? And it pains me to

916
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: say this because my dream is for Lucy Dacas to

917
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: be the special guest at Lesbian Lab.

918
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I haven't even told you this.

919
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: I don't have a I don't have a contact or anything,

920
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: but I I just have this dream that will do

921
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: Lesbio Lab. And then at the end she comes out

922
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: and performs I Kissed a Girl.

923
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: Lucy. If you if you hear this Bellhouse.

924
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: On April sixteen, sixteen, and I just want to let

925
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, Lucy, I got and this is a true story.

926
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: I got my husband concert tickets to your show for

927
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: his birthday.

928
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: He's a huge fan.

929
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: We can't wait to see you at Radio City and

930
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll see you at the Bell House. But what

931
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to say is that Lucy Dacas and the

932
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: Boy Genius girls were definitely at Lizzo's pass. Yeah, and

933
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: I think Phoebe Bridges. It's sort of like the jury's out.

934
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: But something I noticed today is that Pitchfork herself gave

935
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: Lucy Dacas a six point one on her new album.

936
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: Which, in a sense is choosing to go Pitchfork totally,

937
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 2: Like there's something about that where it's like, Okay, you're

938
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 2: staying small.

939
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: On the other hand, so Lindsey and Bobby pointed this

940
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: out on Hoo Weekly. There was literally a People magazine

941
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: exclusive about Lucy Dacas, and I'm like, hold on, a

942
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 1: few years ago, we weren't getting People magazine exclusives about

943
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: members of Boy Genius, So Lucy, I think at any point,

944
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: and her tour tickets, I gotta say, shout out to

945
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Live Nation. Much more expensive than I thought they would be.

946
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: Really, I thought I could.

947
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: Potentially add a few more elements to my birthday gift.

948
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: So I do think.

949
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: That there's been a breakthrough with with Boy Genius, and

950
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: I think they're much more mainstream than we think. That

951
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: album did really really well.

952
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.

953
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: So I think if Lucy are you saying, I'm saying Lucy,

954
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: I definitely think she's still at the pass, but I

955
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: think she could snap her damn fingers and go target

956
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: at any point.

957
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: Interesting.

958
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: Interesting, interesting because she is relatable in this way. She's

959
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: fun on videos, she's very millennial, she's very like, you know,

960
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: does a video for Conde Nast Digital and talks about

961
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: going to therapy.

962
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: M What do you think about heim? I, oh god,

963
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: that is a really good question. I kind of think

964
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: it tastefully as tastefully as like very successfully. They've still

965
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 2: chosen Pitchfork.

966
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: I agree, they've definitely still chosen Pitchfork, and that's cool.

967
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: They're almost they're a twenty four.

968
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 2: Basically, they're a twenty FeH. That's literally what they are.

969
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: Fuck Okay, okay, all.

970
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 5: Right, Hi Sama, George random, but I'm on a big

971
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 5: George Michael kick.

972
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 10: So that's huge for.

973
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: Me right now.

974
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 5: And I just had to know, for you George as

975
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 5: a gay man of Greek experience, and for you Sam

976
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 5: as a gay man of not Greek experience.

977
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 10: What does George Michael.

978
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 11: Mean to you?

979
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 5: What are your favorite songs? Yeah, anything George Michael related love.

980
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he means everything to me.

981
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 10: Yeah.

982
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: I used to die for George. You go first, I

983
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: mean you, he was your post post nuptial song in

984
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 2: a fun way, in an amazing way. I had this.

985
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: Idea that I wanted the song when we walked on

986
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: the islet, the song was going to be earnest, but

987
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: then at the end, when we kissed, the song was

988
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: going to be like fun and poppy, and my initial

989
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: my initial idea, of course, was Madonna's Ray of Light,

990
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: which would be iconic, Which would have been iconic, but

991
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: we ended up going with uh with.

992
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: George Michael's Freedom.

993
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: Not the most original choice, but it was like so fun,

994
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: everyone got into it.

995
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: I would say it's pretty original, to be honest.

996
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like I just mean in terms

997
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: of his in terms of his uber it's like one

998
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: of his.

999
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: Oh top three songs.

1000
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: But that and I'll tell you why, And I think

1001
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: I've maybe even said the story on the podcast. I

1002
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: was at this big Pride party last summer. It was

1003
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: all you know, electronic, uh, sort of house music okay,

1004
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: and no lyrics, no references to any pop music. And

1005
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: then at some point, at like two am, the beat

1006
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: breaks into the chorus of Freedom and it was this

1007
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: like incredible moment where everyone was so it was though,

1008
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, we had all like taken mushrooms at the

1009
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: same time or something. It was just like and every

1010
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: it was almost like the results of an election had

1011
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: just come in and they were positive. I cannot, you know,

1012
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: and so I am That really inspired me. I was

1013
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: just like, this song has a power that is unlike

1014
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: other pop music.

1015
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing.

1016
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: Of course, it means a lot to me that he's

1017
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: gang Greek, he's so hot, he's such a sex symbol.

1018
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: It it's important to remember that.

1019
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: In terms of like our sexual politics and in terms

1020
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: of queer stuff, we're not moving in a straight line.

1021
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: Like to me, George Michael was so much more cool

1022
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: and like fun than so many of the things that

1023
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: are that are happening now.

1024
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 2: I really I think about the thing all the time

1025
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: where he was when he was arrested for cruising yeah,

1026
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: and he was like, not ashamed at all. And he's like,

1027
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: what is my culture is like the quote he said,

1028
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's true. Like I'm actually it's

1029
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 2: so funny the way that I like, when I was younger,

1030
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: I did not understand that, And now I'm like, no,

1031
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: it should be illegal for guys to get arrested for cruising.

1032
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: That's literally what we do. That's like, it's a time

1033
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: honor tradition. That's sort of our thanksgiving.

1034
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: If you will, I will say, I as much as

1035
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: I love George Michael, I really only know the hits.

1036
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a sort of completist. I'm not listening

1037
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: to album's top to bottom, you know, I like everyone else,

1038
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: I rediscovered Father Figure because a baby girl. I love

1039
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: adding some George Michael to a party playlist, But I'm not,

1040
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not listening to B sides. Do you

1041
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: have favorite songs that are sort of out of the

1042
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: off the beaten path?

1043
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: Not really, I mean the hits are hits for a reason.

1044
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: I have listened to, like what is the one with

1045
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: Father Figure on it? What's it called Faith?

1046
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,479
Speaker 1: That was Faith, which also has the famous song Faith,

1047
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: but it has.

1048
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: Faith on it. I have that one on vinyl and

1049
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: I've listened to it a good amount and it's I mean,

1050
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: there's a lot of like weird shit on there, like

1051
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: which is a fun thing about listening to an album

1052
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: like that. But it's like it's fun. But yeah, the

1053
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: hits are the hits are the hits, like you just

1054
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: you feel it?

1055
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he has he has it, he has it.

1056
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: I was George Michael for Halloween, some may recall. Many

1057
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: are talking about that. So that's our relationship with George Michael. Yeah, okay,

1058
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: all right, final call.

1059
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: Oh and what perfect timing. Such a well timed episode. Meanwhile,

1060
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: I've never received more texts in my life. Everyone needs

1061
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: a call now.

1062
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 10: Hi, Simon, George. I'm calling in with an advice question.

1063
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 10: I'm going to a straight wedding in a couple of months.

1064
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 10: There are going to be very few gay people there,

1065
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 10: maybe in the single digits, and it's a pretty conservative

1066
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 10: religious wedding and it's going to be in the wedding party.

1067
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 10: So my question is, what are the gayest things I

1068
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 10: should do without getting myself kicked out of the family?

1069
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 10: All right, love y'all thinks bye?

1070
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: Well, this is a perfect call. Of course. Of course,

1071
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: I think this is such a you know, time on

1072
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: or tradition of being the gay guy at a traditional

1073
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: straight wedding, And it's sort of like traveling to like

1074
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: a small town where you know, yes, you are literally

1075
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: not going to see as many gay people, but it's

1076
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: like with but it's also kind of fun because you

1077
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: get to like open up any app you want and

1078
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: see the most random guys on earth. I think I

1079
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: have no greater pleasure than like being in like, you know,

1080
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: random parts of Minnesota and opening up the apps because

1081
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: it's sort of like a time machine. Like you see

1082
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: people that are like, I'm literally married to a woman,

1083
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: and you're like that is really amazing. Yeah, that is

1084
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: so cool, and I'm like, I didn't know we still

1085
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Speaker 2: had you.

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Speaker 1: I also am like, take a little take a little

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00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: thirst trap with your suit in the bathroom. Unbutton literally

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00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: unbutton your fly. Get a little pub in there, get

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00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: a little pub in there, take a photo. We're talking

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00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: close friends, directly to close friends. Maybe a little a

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00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: little comment that's like at a religious wedding.

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Speaker 2: Lol, some nudes.

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00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: The fire emojis are gonna start coming.

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Speaker 2: At you fast.

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Speaker 1: There is something about being actually far away from the

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00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: people you are courting or making horny or flirting with.

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00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: That makes it so much more erotic than actually having

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to meet them in person.

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Speaker 2: This is so true. What a smart thing to say,

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00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: because you literally there's no risk. It can just be

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00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: flirty without any follow through. That's genius.

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Speaker 1: Actually, one of the worst things that could happen to

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00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: someone is when you think that's what's happening and then

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Speaker 1: the other person's like, want to come over, and it's like, no,

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00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: I know, I am doing something very very specific here,

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: and if you can't tell, like, that's on you.

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Speaker 2: But I am such a I'm such a I'll be

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00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: right there type bitch. Oh really, I am like, I'm

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00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 2: like the I'm ordering the car right now. It is.

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Speaker 1: It takes a lot to get me out of the

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Speaker 1: house if I don't think that's what's happening with that night.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, horniness is a disease. No, it is a disease,

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Speaker 2: I will say.

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Speaker 1: On the other side of things, if I'm out, it's

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Speaker 1: very easy for someone to convince me to stay out.

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Speaker 1: Like I had an experience recently where I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm leaving and ended up going to three other locations

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Speaker 1: on a weekday.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's awesome, I think. Also, I mean I think

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Speaker 2: you may be surprised. And I think if there are

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Speaker 2: any other gay people there, I think it could be

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00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: really really fun to flirt and even have something happen,

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00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 2: because it'll feel so secretive, it'll feel so illegal, and

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Speaker 2: even if they're like not your normal type or whatever,

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: it's like, this is awesome. There's something evil about it.

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Speaker 2: And also, here's one.

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Speaker 1: Of the gayest things you can do at this wedding.

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00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: Show up looking absolutely snatched as hell, get a martini,

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Speaker 1: sit in a corner by yourself, watching everyone kind of

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00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: judgmentally drinking the martini. If I like, you are gonna

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00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: be the talk of the town. People are gonna be like,

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00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: is that Truman Capoti.

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00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: Literally and complain about the food.

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00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely complain about the First of all, when

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00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: I say order a martini, send it back immediately.

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00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: Say I asked for a dry, as.

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00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: For a dry and this glass is not cold. Can

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00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: you please chill the glass? This is my number, text

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: me when it's ready. That, I would say, more so

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00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: than hooking up with someone. While of course that also

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00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: sounds like a lovely thing to do. I would say

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00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: that is the gayest thing you can do at a

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Speaker 1: really straight religious space.

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00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: I have to agree. I have to have to have

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00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: to agree. I'm trying to think if there's anything else

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00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: that's like, you know, it's it's like if you can

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00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: like squeeze in like sort of a half sex story

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01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: to like someone's grandma, that could be huge too. Ooh

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01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: that's good. Yeah, yeah, Like even like some innuendo, like

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: if you can be like no bottoming, No, that's something

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01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: you endo if you can fully be like no bottoming

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01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: for me tonight, like Grandma, Like, guess.

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01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: What, no bottoming for me tonight? Because of this dry

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01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: ass salmon that was served at this stupid ass wedding.

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01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: The hell where is this ship from some landlocked country

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01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: that doesn't grow its own salmon?

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01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great idea.

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01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: Kill two birds with one snown you you tell your ornie,

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01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: you alienate grandma and you and you insult the food.

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01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: That's what being LGBTQ plus is all about.

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01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I think you're gonna And also I

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01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: just want to say, you know, there's a temptation when

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Speaker 1: you're in a straight space to be like, I'm not

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01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna care about my parents. I'm just gonna show up

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Speaker 1: and fit in. Resist that temptation is tempt This is.

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01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: When you want to try to look.

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01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: You want to show these people what their lives are missing.

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01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and really really yeah, really you need to serve,

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01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: You need to serve. Folks.

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Speaker 1: You've been calling, You've been I'm deploying you.

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Speaker 2: We're deploying you. Yeah, well that's pretty fun. Yeah, those

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Speaker 2: were some fun calls. Those are some fun calls. Thanks

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Speaker 2: everyone for calling. Sorry, if we didn't get to your call.

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Speaker 1: You can always call us at three eight five.

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Speaker 2: Gay guys.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we should mention this is, in fact the second

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Speaker 1: part of a two part call in show. The first

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Speaker 1: part was on patrenal Name. It's already happened, and honestly,

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01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: there was a very juicy call on it that I

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Speaker 1: think I would personally pay five dollars a month to

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Speaker 1: listen to.

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Speaker 2: And I think we're gonna you know, we're sort of

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Speaker 2: doing call in shows intermittently and at random. Yeah, whenever

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Speaker 2: we feel like it, which I think is so cool.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I'm glad we're not scheduled.

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Speaker 1: I'm also like, are we officially breaking the earnestness, non

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01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: earnestness binary. I think, so we're being half earnest, half

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01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: not earnest at any given point, I could, you know,

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: sling a joke that would be worthy of Anthony Jesselnick.

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Speaker 1: But I could also retreat into a more kind of introverted,

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01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: vulnerable state and talk about my mother.

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Speaker 2: I think, I think get you a podcast host who

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Speaker 2: can do both. We are we contain moltitudes now, that's right,

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Speaker 2: outwardly and inwardley now more than ever, what with everything

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Speaker 2: going on.

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Speaker 1: So, whether you're in library school or celibate in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles or at a straight wedding offending a grandmother by

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Speaker 1: talking about how you got fisted at the big party.

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