WEBVTT - SEASON 1 HIGHLIGHTS 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.279 Welcome to the highlight Reel from season one of this podcast, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:09.600 the favorite moments from the first nine episodes with a 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:15.600 tremendous variety of great guests sharing their stories, passions and wisdom. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:17.759 We think it's a fun hour that will what's your 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.480 appetite to go back and listen to some of these 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.600 episodes in case you missed him the first time. First up, 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.360 and good buddy, Sir Charles Barkley. Charles has already switched on. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.160 Today we recorded this and we covered a wide variety 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:33.600 of topics, including his passion for golf, and Charles considers 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.240 his time and the golf course with his buddies, many 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.640 of them fellow sports legends, to be the best part 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.599 of his life. These days you get to go with 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:46.800 those guys. All you talk about is the good old days, 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:52.400 and golf is the catalyst. I mean, golf is wanted. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.640 A few sports, well, let me phrase it. Golf is 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:58.360 the only sport you can play when you get older. 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.480 Golf is only spot like some guys might go out 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.200 and try to play tennis, but golf, man, you can 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.320 ask to go out and have fun. Like I said, 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:13.040 You're gonna have a few beers. You can smoke some cigars, 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.959 you can talk trash and then it's just like you 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:24.000 away from stress. Uh, you know, there's nothing going on. 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:28.119 You're like, you just have a window where you can 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:32.520 just have fun and then when it's over, hopefully you 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.920 want some money and hit some good shots. Golf is 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.679 the only thing you can do that with. I mean, 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.880 we can't go out and play basketball. A football player 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.240 can't go out and play football. A baseball player, you know, 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.000 a great Roger Clemens can't go out and pitch right now, 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.280 you know, But you know what, when we get together, 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.680 like that's like when I'm in Lake Tahoe when Roger 0:01:55.760 --> 0:02:00.440 Clemments comes saying hello to me. Josh Allen this year, 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:06.600 this year it was Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. I 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.720 played golf with those guys. I played golf with m. M. Smith. Like, 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.120 not only did you get a chance to talk to 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.639 those guys, but you get a chance to play golf 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.040 with him. And you can't beat that. So you talked 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:23.760 about the great conversations during a round of golf. The company. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.240 It's a tough question, but was there around for you 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.760 that sticks out above all the others where everything was 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.919 just perfect, How you were playing, where you were, who 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.720 were you with? Maybe one money at the end, all 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.520 of it just kind of came together. You said, this 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.480 is the perfect round. It can't get any better than this. 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.760 I think I shot seventy one time on of course 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:52.400 in Kentucky and Wants celebrity tournament. That was probably the 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:59.320 highlight for me personally. But to answer your question, I 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:04.920 think Tiger is the greatest golfer who ever lived. I think, 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.960 no disrespect to Jack Nicholas, who was an amazing person 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.120 and great and the great golf in his own right. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:17.640 But I think because of the competition, the equipment. I 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.560 think the competition has just gotten better over the years, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.799 as you can see, like the reason that why no 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.640 we won every Rayder Cup for a hundred years and 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.840 now it's like a toss up because they just got 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:35.920 better players in other countries and better equipment. And when 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.400 I played with Tiger, it was always an honor and 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:44.080 a privilege. Um the same thing would feel. But to 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.040 say that I played what, in my opinion is the 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.000 greatest golfer ever, it was pretty surreal. Uh. And I 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.160 told I told people, as the guys, I don't play 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.960 with a lot of people. But I saw some stuff 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:04.200 today because I ain't never seen before. I said, his 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.760 ball makes a different sound when it comes off the 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:12.120 club face and I said, and this before he I 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.200 don't even think he had won a major at the time. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.120 That's how for this go back. And I'm like, this 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.480 is this dude here? Uh, like I said, And I 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.120 don't played with field quite a bit, Tom Lehman a 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.599 bunch of pros in Phoenix. I'm playing a bunch of 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.159 pro am. But when I played with Tiger for the 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.520 first few times, I was like, Damn, this kid here 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:36.719 is ridiculous. So that was probably the coolest moment for me. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.560 And then obviously after he'd want a bunch of majors 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.680 to play with him, I was like, yeah, this is 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:47.560 this is the Michael Jordan's Dwayne Gretzky like, there have 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.960 very few players who you're like, oh, they're the best 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.440 of what they ever did. So I think Wayne Gretzky 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.240 is like that. I think Michael was like that. No 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.359 disrespect to Kobe or Lebron or Jack Nichola, but I 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.479 think Tiger is the best I've ever seen. And it 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.760 was an honor the Pervos to play with him. We 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.880 talk plenty more about golf, including Charles Rowle in my 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:13.560 most humiliating athletic experience ever. He also got off an 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.839 a vintage rant about fans and our colleagues in sports broadcasting. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.400 It's so funny, you know, I've known guys like yourself. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:23.880 I've know I mean, can we all travel in the 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.760 same circles? And I got friends in the business going 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:31.039 back to Burn and Gary, Uh, you know, guys like that. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.640 I've had dinner with them, and Joe Buck and guys 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.080 like that. And there you're telling me like people actletely 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.440 think we care who wins. Like when I'm in Alabama, 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.280 They're like, I hate Gary and Verne. I'm like, why 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.599 you garn there? I said, they have two of the 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.160 nicest guys in the world. First of all, if you 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:52.920 don't like Burn, you've got something wrong with you. Ye, like, well, 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.200 they hate Alabama and Auburn. I said, really, really, are 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:00.440 you serious? I said, you guys are just idiots. That's 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.560 just I know Burn pretty well. I don't know Gary 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.839 that well. But they're two great guys. But let me 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.240 tell you something. They don't care who wins. Nobody cares 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.880 who wins but fans think that because they hear what 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.799 they want to hear. It's like Ernie was doing baseball 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:19.239 one year and I went to the playoffs and people 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:23.920 in in um in Philly, uh booing Ernie. I'm like, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.920 what they're doing, Ernie. They're like, they think you don't 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:28.160 like the Phillis. That's just first of all, if you 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.320 blewing Ernie Johnson, you're just an asshole. That's Ernie Johnson 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.200 is the nicest person in the world. But this notion 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.520 that Ernie cares who wins, so you have to learn it. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.279 You go like, man, I don't care who wins the game. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.280 You know what I want. I want the season to 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.640 be able so I can get to my vacation. That's 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.320 what I want more than anything. I want to cease 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.039 to be over. Ernie's go ask me who's gonna win. 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.039 I have to pick somebody, but I don't care who wins. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.040 But it always makes me laugh, like people care that nounce. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.200 They think like, well, that guy doesn't like my team, 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.360 that guy doesn't like my school. I'm like, god, please stop, 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:09.400 please stop. Nobody like cares who wins these events. So 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.080 I kind of figured that, like, okay, if you don't 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.920 like my nuts, and that's fine. I kinda get into 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.120 what I'm trying to defend myself. I've had this confedsation 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.400 with Joe Buck, who's fantastic. I'm like, you know, he's like, 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.760 what do you do? Do you do? You? You want 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.720 the best to ever do it? This notion that you 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.480 care who wins. It's just Athanine, You're just doing your job. 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:35.360 But fans they like, oh I hear this. No, no, 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.760 he didn't say that, but that's what you want to hear. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.240 You know, we we we talked about this because you 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.680 share all of the college football. The passion of the 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.800 fans is one of the engines that makes this thing work. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.040 So I understand they view it through a lens. I 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.160 understand they're going to hear what they want to hear 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.560 and that their opinion is gonna be colored by that. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.160 And they think everybody's biased. You do a game, you 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.160 got fans from both sides, and you were obviously biased 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.200 against us. I can hear it other team fans say 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.080 the same thing. You know you're doing a good job 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.240 when you're when you're doing that, but I yeah, that's 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.720 that's not something you can worry about. And I yeah, 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.960 but because I've actually I go to the Iron Bowl 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.960 every year, my favorite sporting event other than the Olympics. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.400 And I can seem be sitting with Alabama and Arburn 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.480 fans and they both said those announcements hate both of us. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:27.080 I'm like, you guys are just idiots. But it goes 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.160 back like you've been in the business forever. I've been 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.760 in it for twenty years, and like guys, we all 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.080 knew each other. We don't care who wins. We're throwing 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.599 the stats out there. Your defense sucks. We got that. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.160 We can't get on TV and say your defense is good. Well, 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.200 and we say your defense sucked, and they suck. That 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.800 don't mean we dislike your team, but you're right. They 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.400 hear what they want to hear. And it's funny though, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.400 Uh it's funny. I always tell people fans want to 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:01.880 hear two things, my favorite players and my team is great. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.880 If you don't say those two things, you're screwed with 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.440 that fan base. I tell people my favorite player, you 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.000 better tell me he's great, and you better tellim and 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.280 my team is good. That's like what I'm in New York. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.560 Where are you at right now? It's always fun to 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:22.400 go there because the Knicks fans are amazing. Every year 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.199 you go there, they're like, you hate the Knicks. You 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:29.640 hate the Knicks? Like, what are you talking about? You 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.040 said they sucked every year? I said that stuff, they 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:36.440 suck every year. And I said, wait a minute, Why 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:40.000 am I a Knicks hater? If y'all suck every year? 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.560 And I see y'all suck every year, why does that 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.920 make me a hater? Now? That was recorded before the 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:51.600 Knicks actually finally had a good season and Charles had 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.440 to eat a few words. Now, the episode one highlights 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.440 the good, the bad, and the funny. Four skilled interviewers 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.520 and superbo storytellers Sharon tales that range from the triumphant 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.960 to the tragic, the edgy and the cringe e. First up, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:11.400 Willie Guys to host NBC Sunday Today, offering insight on 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.440 his wonderful interviews with the likes of David Letterman, Al Pacino, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.320 and the elusive Bill Murray. Yeah, that was a case 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.840 like Dave where a life sort of preparation with Bill 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.600 Murray came in handy because for people who don't know, 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.880 he doesn't have a manager or publicist, He has no 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.559 one like that, and celebrities have these layers of people 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.560 that you go through. He still has, all these years later, 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.880 a one eight hundred number that if you want to 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.920 talk to him and get an interview, call and leave 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.080 a message. This is a true story. And for Bill 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.199 Murray and so our bookers say, Hi, this is so 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.120 and so from Sunday today, Willie Guys would love to interview. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.800 And we never heard back, so most people never hear back. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.360 And then he came in to do a live interview 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.840 on The Today Show with Savannah I think one morning 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.680 and he was he's messing around doing what he does 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.679 with everybody, and he's in the green room and our 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.800 booker was there, which is you're the booker said, yeah, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.240 I don't do that Willie Guys show. Let's do that today, 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.480 and they went today, Yeah, let's do it right after this. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.320 There's no there's a whole thing. We gotta get it 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.520 set up, an elaborate shoot. It's called the Today Show. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.880 It's gonna men today for a long formative. He's like, 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.959 just do it. Why don't we just he slides in 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:19.920 the chair after Savannah, we do another inter of you. 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.800 So luckily he was we didn't have time to set 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.520 it up that quickly. But luckily he said I'm gonna 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.080 be in town for another day. And all he said 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.240 was have him come by the hotel at ten o'clock 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.440 tomorrow morning. Okay, So we set up a shoot on 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.720 the roof of the hotel, a little bar at the hotel. 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.040 Who was staying, set up our cameras. Ten o'clock, the 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.800 elevator doors opened. His hair's messed up, he's in new 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.920 Balance shoes, corduroy pants, some free golf zip up he 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.800 got at a tournament somewhere, probably Tahoe or something like that. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.920 And he sat with me for over an hour. And 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.880 that was another one to your point of don't be 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.719 the guy who's quoting Caddyshack to build Murray because he's 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.840 gonna smell that immediately. Remember that. And then you said this, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.160 and then you said that the Dali Lama, big hitter, 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.719 you know, don't don't do that, And I think I are. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.640 We were talking before the interview about he's a big 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.640 Illinois basketball fan and my parents went there, so I 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.679 was raised in Illinois basketball. We talked. It's probably on tape. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.439 I bet we're recording twenty minutes about like the nine 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.320 Flying the Line nine versus the two thousand five Darren 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.160 Williams d Brown team, And I think even from that 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.120 and that was genuine for me. I grew up and 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.959 then we had trust right there. And so then unsolicited 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.640 he talks about Caddy Shack and we get into Ghostbusters 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.520 and then he starts telling the SNL stories. He's like, oh, 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.520 there was this one time Keith Richards and I were 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.760 in a bathroom stall with a bottle of Rebel Yell 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.000 while Mitt was out on stage singing some girls, and 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.760 you're just going, oh my. And there are those moments 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.240 you've probably had them where you're always doing your job 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.280 or you're looking across and you go, Bill Murray's telling 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.000 the SNLS tour, what a gift this is? You know, 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.960 sometimes you just freeze the moment. What a gift. And 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.800 I felt that way with Dave and al Pacino too. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.720 But yeah, the ones that don't do a lot of 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.760 interviews and you can get to tell you things that 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.439 you haven't heard a million times elsewhere, those are the best. 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.960 Those are the best interviews. So they can't all be gems. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.880 And the greatest hockey player of all time wasn't. It 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.120 wasn't didn't put the biscuit in the basket in that one. Well, no, 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.000 he put the biscuit in the basket. It was me. 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.160 I whiffed on opening it. So this was at the 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.600 two thousand ten Olympics in Vancouver where he was sort 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.520 of the grand ambassador at the Olympic Games, meaning Canada, 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.200 and I was at the time, was ten years ago. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.400 I was I host a show called Way Too Early, 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.880 which was on live at five thirty AM on the 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.400 remember that four Morning go So in Vancouver, it's on 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.800 a two thirty AM. So I'm getting into the the 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:58.160 IBC at midnight. Every night. I'm waking up at eleven PM, 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.640 going to bed at seven or eight. But I'm also 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.760 out shooting things during the day, trying to get on 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.400 the Today Show, just going a hundred miles an hour. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.160 And so the one night I didn't go out much 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.760 for obvious reasons because everyone was out while I was 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.640 in bed. But I did go out one night, finally 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.040 got some time out. I went out with all the 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:21.120 NBC people and my phone rang early in the morning 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.240 and they said, you know, nobody else is around with 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.800 Wayne Gretzky wants to do a quick interview. And I 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.840 sort of woke up and its stupor, and I was 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.480 exhausted after a month of this, and let's be honest, 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.560 I was a little hungover and I wasn't feeling I 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.840 was feeling a little green. And I said, well, of course, 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.520 where do I come to the IBC. We'll do it 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.640 in one of this little you know, this little flash studio. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.080 And so I was thinking about, all right, this is 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.760 a big deal. You know, Costas is still asleep, nobody 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.280 else is doing It's my turn to do it. So um, 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.920 I put on I put on a shirt and then 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.800 I thought I'm gonna go for like the sweater into 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.800 the jacket. Look, so basically I had like three layers on. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.160 Then I put on a blazer and I hadn't slept 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.440 in a month, and I'm hungover. And so I go 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.360 into this little booth and there's Wayne Gretzky, total gentleman, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.520 and they say it's pretty hot in the booth. I 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.040 don't They hadn't fired everything up yet, you know, And 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:22.080 I've got four layers on, and so they say, all right, 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:26.120 three to one interview, Wayne Gretzky and Chris like I've 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:30.600 never had on TV or off, just the water works 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.800 from the forehead down. And if you've ever been in 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.560 that position, the more it happens, the worst it gets. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.560 You're thinking about it, you're trying to stop it with 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.720 your mind, and for some reason, nobody stopped the fight. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.840 There are producers in there. I'm going, he's any gonna 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.120 throw the towel in here right now? Literally, I could 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.440 have used the towel and stop this fight. And to 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.720 his great credit, I'm this close to Wayne Gretzky. He's 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:56.680 talking about how great it is to have the games 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:00.800 in his home country. I'm just pouring sweat, and he 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.720 just without acknowledging it, he didn't say word, didn't an 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.480 entire interview, and just kind of gave me a pat 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.040 on the back and a wink like, I don't know 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.000 what's going on here, buddy, but I'm glad we got 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.240 through that together. And he walked out like the gentleman 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.240 he is, and my producer came in was like dude, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.280 and I said, dude, what about you gonna help me 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.320 out here a little bit? And so that interview now 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.520 for all times, has been known as the Sweat Sky Interview. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.840 Mixed up. They always cool and composed and extremely talented. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:36.040 Maria Taylor, what do you find is the most rewarding 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:43.480 aspect of interviewing? My favorite I've always said that being 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.040 in the moments of say in NFL or NBA Draft, 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.080 where you're getting to you've seen the entire arc of 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.880 a player's career, you know what I mean. They've worked 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.360 so hard from their freshman year to you know, fighting through. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:57.920 Maybe they had a little bit of trouble, maybe they 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.200 knew they needed to work harder. Maybe you know, you've 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.600 heard stories about how they became even more active in 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.760 their community. Then they became a captain and they became 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.800 a leader. You've watched them win all the awards, and 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.640 then on the day of the draft. I always think 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.119 back to the NBA Draft two seasons ago, and you're 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.800 getting you know, you're getting the tears from Zion even 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.200 though he knew he was going to be the number 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.560 one overall pick. But it's still I mean, I started 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.840 in South Carolina as a kid who's just trying to 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:23.800 make it to college, you know, and now look at 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.120 where I am and we're talking about the whole city 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.600 of New Orleans, celebrating just because my name was called 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.080 and I'm overcome with emotions. So one of the greatest 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.920 things is just to even be there holding the mic, 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.760 documenting that moment for a player or a person, because 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.280 we get to be there in those moments that they 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.359 can remember them forever and they will look back at 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.760 that and think about that moment and re able to 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.280 remember some of those emotions and hear how they were feeling, 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.120 and we get to share that with them. So that's 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.600 probably the best part of it. Last thing, we all 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:57.199 have our lists. The list includes some coaches who are 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.560 going to be honest with you, not intimidate you, being expressive. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.280 Another list for coaches fall short of that criteria. I'm 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.120 not gonna ask you who's on the ladder list, because 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:08.960 I know you're still interviewing a lot of these same people, 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.159 But would you acknowledge that those lists exist and how 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.560 does it shape the experience with the preparation for you 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.840 when when a coach falls in one of those two camps. Okay, 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:24.320 so in the second camp and just straight dread what 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.760 you're gonna get um and you're like, oh no, that's 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:29.920 on the schedule. Okay, here we go I'm gonna have to. 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:31.640 I'm gonna put my taftl on on for this one. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.919 And then there's coaches like I mean Steve Spurrier, who's 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.359 not coaching anymore, but I would always love it. Doesn't 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.640 matter if it's the pregame, doesn't matter if it's postgame 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.440 and pathtime, you're gonna get a great quote from Spurrier 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.320 because he's gonna be funny. It's probably gonna be a 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:46.760 little bit light harder. I don't care if they're down, 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:48.080 I don't care if they're up. He's gonna make fun 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.119 of somebody, and it's just gonna be interesting. Like you 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.280 gotta have the old ball coach in the first category. 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:55.760 And again, I think when you're in the second you're 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.080 just very You're trying to keep your questions as neutral 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.399 as possible, like trying to find ways and not how 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.359 the attack come at you, if it's possible. And uh, 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.040 also just knowing that no matter what happens, like I'm 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.840 still a good reporter after this. You gotta build your 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:15.960 own confidence for those. Episode one also featured great stories 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:20.120 from Jeremy chap about his interviews with Mike Tyson, Bob Knight, 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.600 and many others and from rich eyes and told some 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.119 hilarious stories. We got talking about mistaken identity, and I 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.280 told a story about the Hollywood legend who punched me 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.080 in the arm later on, gout in my face and 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.560 refused to be interviewed by me on the set of 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:38.439 Game Day. I think you will enjoy that story now. 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.200 Besides a whole lot of laughs, in season one, we 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:46.520 also featured companion episodes called You Are Not Alone, putting 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.280 the focus on an issue of crucial importance these days, 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:54.120 mental health. Hoping to expand the conversation and reduce the stigma. 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:59.119 Are two guests, Dan Patrick and Gary Goldman were both powerful, 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:03.800 vulnerable and generous. Now, Dan and Gary's own experiences with 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.200 mental health are very different, but each of them delivered 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.720 passionate messages, helpful and hopeful to those who are struggling 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.200 or for those who have loved ones who are struggling well. 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.159 Depression is a topic that's been important to me and 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:17.879 lots of people. I do want to get into that. 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:19.879 You said you've had in your family, so you have 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.040 an awareness of what it's like. You understand that it's 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.440 not a character flaw, it's a flaw in chemistry. It's 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:30.720 not in your control, but it's very, very tough to 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.040 to find a way to navigate out of that. So 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.880 when you're when you're you're feeling this pain and obviously 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:39.920 you're going through all the scary thoughts, how did that 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.720 translate into sort of mental difficulties and take you sort 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.800 of to a dark place. I didn't know I was there. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:48.760 I think a lot of people who are depressed don't 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:53.480 know they're there. And I just I would just get 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.399 to a place where I didn't want to talk, you know, 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.760 I just sit and then I didn't realize I wasn't talking, 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.120 and my wife would say, what's wrong? I go nothing, 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.560 But I was in my own world and I I 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:10.119 just I don't know. I let it uh kind of 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.800 easy its way in and then it doesn't leave easily. Um, 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.760 And you know, I kept thinking, you know, everything in 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:19.760 my mindsetf I can figure this out. I can get 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:21.040 out of this. I can be better than this, I 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.440 can be stronger than this. And then I realized that 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:28.680 I couldn't. And that's you know, when you know, I 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.800 just had to figure out can I do? I need 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.160 to talk to somebody, and then the you know, I'm stubborn. 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:35.639