WEBVTT - “SHOULD I BE A STRIPPER?”

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<v Speaker 1>All from Violet July.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hey, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the Gecko?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is this?

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<v Speaker 1>No way, I'm Violet July.

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<v Speaker 2>Violet July. Ooh that's do you know who the insane

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<v Speaker 2>clown Posse are?

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<v Speaker 1>I know of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the head guy. His name is Violent j which

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<v Speaker 2>is not violent. His name is Violent j and yours

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<v Speaker 2>is Violet July.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I didn't even put those two and two together,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, Violet July. Do you go by Violet July

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<v Speaker 2>or does do you ever go by Violet?

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<v Speaker 1>I go by Violet. It's a recent thing. I started

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<v Speaker 1>going by my musician name. But I'm not really here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about my music, I guess at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So you picked you picked the name Violet I did?

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<v Speaker 1>I picked it myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it inspired at all by the daughter from the Incredibles?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was more like Violet Boudelaire from a Series

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<v Speaker 1>of Unfortunate event.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's Violet, Violet Bouldelaire. Is that her name?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were saying Violet Beauregard. Who is the

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<v Speaker 2>name of the of the of the girl who I think?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the girl who turns into a giant

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<v Speaker 2>blueberry in the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that was Violet. Yeah, Violet, dou regard.

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<v Speaker 2>Those two things? They sound similar. Yeah, well, enough about

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<v Speaker 2>fictional characters. What's going on with you, Violet?

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<v Speaker 1>So actually I'm in a debate on whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>I should be a stripper again.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah okay, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was a stripper for four years. I'm twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I started when I was nineteen. I stopped when I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty three. But I'm also in recovery. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>cocaine addict. I did the cocaine mostly when I was

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<v Speaker 1>working music festivals, not stripping, but still cocaine is at

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<v Speaker 1>strip club and I work a retail job now and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not paying enough for my solver living. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>debating on whether or not I should dance two days

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<v Speaker 1>a week on a day shift somewhere because I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>a proper sleep schedule now. My only issue is is

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm worried if someone offers me cocaine, I will

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<v Speaker 1>do it and I will ruin my life again. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've rewrapped four times. I've been to rehab four times,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm doing really well now, like I'm happy for

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<v Speaker 1>once in my life, like I'm actually enjoying living, which

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. I never thought that I would enjoy living.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really need the money. And I've also been

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that kind of sexually charged recently, like I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like it would be a good way to express myself

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<v Speaker 1>and feel sexy again. I guess because it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>while and I don't know. There comes a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stigma that comes with though, so I don't and that's

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<v Speaker 1>never bothered me. But now I'm kind of at the

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<v Speaker 1>point in my life where I'd like to find somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>and not a lot of people are okay with dating

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<v Speaker 1>sex workers, so that's where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a bunch of questions. First of all, congrats

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<v Speaker 2>on getting sober.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have to so you have to pay to

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<v Speaker 2>be How does that work? You have to pay to

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<v Speaker 2>be in a sober living house? What's that whole situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I pay to live in this overliving it's

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<v Speaker 1>like granting monthly, but they cover like electricity and Wi

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<v Speaker 1>Fi and they get toilet paper for you. So I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a like a once a month charge for

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<v Speaker 1>all like all.

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<v Speaker 2>Bills paid, and did you like go to rehab and

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<v Speaker 2>then this is sort of like you're getting out of

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<v Speaker 2>rehab and transitioning via this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is post rehab.

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<v Speaker 2>And is the sober living like significantly more expensive than

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to just live in a normal place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually a lot cheaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah hmm, that's fascinating. I mean, how long can you

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<v Speaker 2>stay there for?

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<v Speaker 1>As long as I want? As long as i'm parent?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, shit, all right, that's a great that's a fantastic situation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you like, is it like a dorm room kind of

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<v Speaker 2>shit where you're like hanging out with other people in

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<v Speaker 2>recovery and there's like meetings all the time and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have two house meetings a week. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's enough space here for twelve girls, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>we only have six, so we each have our own

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<v Speaker 1>rooms right now, M.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very Uh are you meeting? Are you meeting a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of friends?

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<v Speaker 1>I am. The thing about recovery is that I really

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<v Speaker 1>like is the community is really awesome. Like I love

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<v Speaker 1>going to meetings. I love going to like my IOP,

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<v Speaker 1>which stands for Intensive outpatient, which is basically just group therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>I really love it. Also, if I'm talking weird. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because I've just got my pumpures and I'm still trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like figure out how to speak with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear that, But did you, like, did you

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<v Speaker 2>get one of those tongue piercings where like the tongue

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<v Speaker 2>is fucking split in half like Patrick's arms.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be cool, but now I just got like

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<v Speaker 1>a little piercing in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>There is anyone else in this that you've met in

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<v Speaker 2>this recovery center? Is anyone else a former or current stripper?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, so tell me about the stripping you

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<v Speaker 2>did it from when you were nineteen too? How old?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty three?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? And at the time you were doing it? What

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<v Speaker 2>made you stop?

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<v Speaker 1>I got really burnt out and I switched to cam girling.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a cam girl for a while and I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked that. But I can't do that right now

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<v Speaker 1>because I live in sober living. I would just do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but like they won't really allow that, and sober living

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<v Speaker 1>because like moaning through the walls isn't really so there's

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<v Speaker 1>like six girls here, Like I just feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not When I did it, I lived with people

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<v Speaker 1>who understood, but I switched to camgirling and then I

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<v Speaker 1>went to rehab and I got really burnt out in

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<v Speaker 1>my back hurt. I was just I did it for

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<v Speaker 1>four years so and it was never anything that I

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<v Speaker 1>was passionate about. Like what I'm really passionate about, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I love working merch at festivals and concerts. I love

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, and then music. I love making music and

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<v Speaker 1>performing absolutely love it. I released my first song in January,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm hoping I can make a living doing that

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<v Speaker 1>one day. But it's like in the meantime, I need

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<v Speaker 1>something to get by, and like, starting a music project

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<v Speaker 1>is really expensive. Like I'm just a vocalist and lyricist.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to have people like mix my stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a producer that I have to pay. Marketing costs money,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm barely affording to live as it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like to get somewhere, I have to like invest in myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I think going back to the club

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<v Speaker 1>might be a good idea, because I mean, I could

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<v Speaker 1>pay for my project and I could pay for my

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<v Speaker 1>silver living and I have another job on top of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's here.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your what's your other job? Oh right, you said retail.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna yeah, retail, hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>You see. It's interesting. It's fascinating here you said that

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<v Speaker 2>you were a cam girl, because when you first said

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<v Speaker 2>like that, the main fear was that you would uh

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<v Speaker 2>get offered cocaine. I was like, while you could just

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<v Speaker 2>do the you know whatever the digital version of being

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<v Speaker 2>a stripper is, which, by the way, I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always found that kind of I find it fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>that strip clubs even still really exist because I would assume,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I don't know that that like the

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<v Speaker 2>universe of the financials of being a stripper versus being

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<v Speaker 2>a cam girl, but I would assume that the benefits

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<v Speaker 2>of of of doing some kind of camming career is

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<v Speaker 2>better than being a stripper in person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, stripping is more money. But I really

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<v Speaker 1>liked camming, Like I felt like I could just be

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<v Speaker 1>myself on camera and it was it was a really

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<v Speaker 1>fun experience. I liked it a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So how much of the decision of whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>you want to go back to stripping is monetary because

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned that it's money, but you also mentioned that

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoy it in some degree that allows you some

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<v Speaker 2>degree of expression.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm an extrovert. I love talking to people of

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<v Speaker 1>getting to know people, and like, how would I say

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<v Speaker 1>this without like, I don't know. I've been very sexually

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<v Speaker 1>charge recently because I think it's like you took away

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<v Speaker 1>my drugs and now my brain wants something else. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been feeling very flirty and I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been acting out a little bit, like I've been making

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<v Speaker 1>out with people in my group therapy and I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be doing that, Like that's I just don't And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I've gotten non tender and met people and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a matter of like my I guess my

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<v Speaker 1>r right now is very flirty, and if I could

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<v Speaker 1>just express that and be that way and get paid

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<v Speaker 1>for it, that would be really cool, because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I've been a little inappropriate lately. It's just I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the vibe I'm giving out because I'm so sexually

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated and I don't I don't want, like I just

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<v Speaker 1>need a friends with benefits and I'm on the hunt

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<v Speaker 1>for one. But it's it's like I don't want all this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't. I don't want to be screwing

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<v Speaker 1>around with people that I'm in recovery with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very hard for me not I have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to imagine. I have to. I know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>like sex addict stuff where you like, it's that that

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that must be a crazy can of worms.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have to imagine that that must be. There

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<v Speaker 2>has there has to be. I have to imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>in recovery communities in general, there's a lot of people fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's it's called flaw sex and Love Addicts anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh are you fucking around with people in that group specifically?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's like highly discouraged. Like at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much I'm allowed to say because

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<v Speaker 1>it's anonymous, but it's it's a very that's highly discouraged.

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<v Speaker 2>I I I have to I assume with the with

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<v Speaker 2>the with the anonymous groups, you can talk about them

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<v Speaker 2>as long as you're not talking about a specific person.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, you know, yeah, Well, at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of each meeting, they say, like, this is not a

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<v Speaker 1>hookup group, Like if anyone approaches you in an appropriate manner,

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<v Speaker 1>and like we all understand, like we're all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in the same boat, so we don't want to like

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<v Speaker 1>trigger each other. Now with like group therapy and like

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<v Speaker 1>IOP and stuff like that, it's a little harder because

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<v Speaker 1>not everyone's a sex addict and it's not it is

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<v Speaker 1>found pond to like get a rehab romance or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you call it. But it's like there's that that line

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<v Speaker 1>of respect isn't going both ways. Like someone might flirt

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<v Speaker 1>with me and it's very hard for me not to

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<v Speaker 1>flirt with them back, or I might flirt with someone.

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<v Speaker 1>But like in the in the Flaw program, it's very

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<v Speaker 1>like we're so there to try to get better that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to like fuck up anyone else's recovery.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wouldn't want to fuck up anyone else's like

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<v Speaker 1>recovery and IOP either.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because how is the Tinder going.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a really good Tinder date yesterday, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>afraid I would catch feelings for him, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really in the place that I'm available to catch feelings

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<v Speaker 1>for people.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you just so you you just want to

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<v Speaker 2>have no strings attached sex with people.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want like one friends with benefits. I can

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<v Speaker 1>hit up a few times a week and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that would be enough for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like on Tinder, you won't have an issue

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<v Speaker 2>finding that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a guy that he is the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>gives me my coffee and water when I'm at work.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been hanging out and we talked about a friends

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<v Speaker 1>benefits situation. It just hasn't happened yet, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>he would be good because I'm not I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any romantic feelings for him. I don't see myself catching

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<v Speaker 1>any and he's really pretty. But the guy from tender

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<v Speaker 1>is actually really cool. And then I kind of started

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<v Speaker 1>having a friends with benefits thing with a girl but

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<v Speaker 1>she's in my iop and we sucked once and it

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<v Speaker 1>was really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>But then I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna I was gonna ask. I know that the I

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<v Speaker 2>have to assume that the slog groups are separated by gender,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you're if you're into all the genders, you're fucked.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess back to the original issue of like

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<v Speaker 2>should you become a stripper or not? I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>what about what about only fans? I said only fans?

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<v Speaker 2>Just now, as if I don't know what only like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how that's how somebody who doesn't really know what

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<v Speaker 2>only fans is would say it only fans, but well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like fans once.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like only fans making content to me is

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<v Speaker 1>just I've done it. But like, I'm actually not that photogenic.

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<v Speaker 1>I look way better in life than doing photos. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like only fans is, like, you gotta be consistent

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Constantly market yourself with camming and stripping. You kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just do it, and you gain a base with only fans.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to gain a base and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it right.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and I've I've done only fans. I did

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<v Speaker 1>it for a week, I made a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>deleted it, and it's just it's not my thing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>making content. I like making content, just not like sexual content.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I I don't know. I'm a creative. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ideas for videos. I write poetry, I

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<v Speaker 1>write short stories, I write plays.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a writer.

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<v Speaker 1>I like editing videos.

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<v Speaker 4>Is just.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't I don't like making sexual content.

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<v Speaker 1>I like just being myself and talking and having my

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<v Speaker 1>aura and then doing that like photos and videos are

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So how long have you been so the did you

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<v Speaker 2>go to like a sex and love rehab at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time as the cocaine rehab.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think that exists. Actually, I mean it might,

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<v Speaker 1>but I haven't been the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait. How long have you been in the slaw for? Mmm?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe like six months?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how long you been in the cocaine stuff for.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time I went to rehab was a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm. How is the retail job going? Where? Where

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<v Speaker 2>is where is that at?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. I'm just not passionate about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lingerie store. I'm just it's really hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to find jobs I'm passionate about. I'm not passionate

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<v Speaker 1>about sex work, but at least I like it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't dislike this retail job. I'm just it's boring,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, I guess people have to work boring jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to complain about it. I'm grateful to

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<v Speaker 1>have this job. It's just if I have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a career, I just want to do something i'm passionate about. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>all I want to do is write songs and poetry,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've written books, and I just I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do music first. So I have a people that will

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<v Speaker 1>read my stuff, and I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>The job is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the girls that work there. It's just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not passionate about it and it doesn't pay a whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I you know, I think it's good. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's good that you have a lot of things you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do, you know. The way you're talking about them,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, it's almost and I do this too. I

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<v Speaker 2>do this too. What I'm about to say that you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>I do this too. And that's why I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm seeing you do it. Is like all these

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<v Speaker 2>passions that you are talking about, like you know what ever,

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<v Speaker 2>making music or writing things like they're almost like waits

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<v Speaker 2>the way you're talking about them, you know, But I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're good to have all these things that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do. And then weirdly, like weirdly, these things

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<v Speaker 2>they come with like attachments of like I need to

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<v Speaker 2>make money doing this or be successful doing this, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's that a big part of like trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be happy with them is removing those kind of

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<v Speaker 2>unnecessary attachments. And again I I I completely and utterly

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<v Speaker 2>do that myself. And that's the only reason I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go go.

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<v Speaker 1>I watch your steam a lot, and I'm always like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I'll get to talk to them one day?

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<v Speaker 2>What is What does the future look like for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Violet Violent? I'm gonna just call you violent Violent July, Violet,

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<v Speaker 2>Violet July. What's the future look is?

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<v Speaker 1>Violet July? I More poetry, more music, more connection, more love,

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<v Speaker 1>more kindness, more enlightenment.

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<v Speaker 2>And less cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and less cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, Well, I wish I could have I I

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<v Speaker 2>it's been It's been great talking to you. I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I could have been of some form of help in

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<v Speaker 2>you making your decision.

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<v Speaker 1>You're great. It was great to just be able to

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<v Speaker 1>vent about it. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I guess you could. There's a way

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<v Speaker 2>you could. You could combine all these things. You could be.

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<v Speaker 2>You could be the stripping poet. You you take off

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<v Speaker 2>one piece of clothing for every every bar. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you go Are they Is that just rap? Or is

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<v Speaker 2>that in poetry too?

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<v Speaker 1>The bars they're called stamp.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, every stanza, you take off one piece of clothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you want to hear poems.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, let's close out with a poem.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I have like.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight thousand pems in my phone notes. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>where is it? Let's go with Okay, the anti Christ

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<v Speaker 1>will entice the gentleman the medicine he needs to kill.

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<v Speaker 1>The weeds of the demiurge must be purged from his computer,

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<v Speaker 1>for the consumer is innocent, and the gentleman is ignorant

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<v Speaker 1>of the colors sent from the other side of reality.

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<v Speaker 1>For our immortality desires to go backwards. I heard the

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman's curls can lurel the girls into the catastrophe that

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<v Speaker 1>may be essopiric truth. But his geometric youth sings the

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<v Speaker 1>song of wires, that tire of intertwining the saging masses.

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<v Speaker 1>So when his soul passes, will he choose to continue

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<v Speaker 1>down the rabbit hole of hell?

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<v Speaker 4>Or will his shell grow roots?

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like something Hermione would say to like turn

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<v Speaker 2>a demon into a bunny or something. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>good poem. Thank you, what's your name again? Violet Violent,

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<v Speaker 2>Violet July.

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<v Speaker 4>Violet July, Violet July.

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<v Speaker 2>Violet July, Is anything else you want to say to

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<v Speaker 2>the people of the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a song coming out on January first

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<v Speaker 1>at who is Violet July? If you feel like following,

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<v Speaker 1>I promise it didn't come here for music promo. But

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. I appreciate everybody like you guys agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, check out Violent I don't know what his Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>handle is, but check out a violent violent J. Just

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<v Speaker 2>go to go to YouTube and type in violent J

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<v Speaker 2>Miracles and watch that video too while and watch Violet

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and also that thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a good night, Violet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you toobe by bye.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 4>Lauren?

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<v Speaker 2>Lauren? What's going on with you? Lauren?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, just not really on house rest. But I

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<v Speaker 4>have a scram monitor on my ankle.

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<v Speaker 2>A scram monitor?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, so it it depends alcohol in your sweat?

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<v Speaker 2>And is this because you are legally not allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>be consuming alcohol.

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<v Speaker 4>On twenty four but correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, why are you not legally allowed to consume alcohol?

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<v Speaker 4>So I I rolled a stop sign and I had

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<v Speaker 4>alcohol in my system and I got pulled over and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>a long story short, I got an ankle monitor.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that? Were you above the legal limit?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So I'm nott in Utah and Utah's legal limits

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<v Speaker 4>zero point zero five, which I mean still not great.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't condone it, But.

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<v Speaker 2>How much did you have to drink that night?

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<v Speaker 4>I really only probably had four glasses of wine throughout

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<v Speaker 4>a period of a couple hours, and I could, like

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the whole like pulling over, the arrest, everything,

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<v Speaker 4>so after like that whole situation, before I got the

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<v Speaker 4>angle monitor, I wanted to test the theory to see

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<v Speaker 4>how my body processed alcohol. So I had a wine

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<v Speaker 4>night with my friends and we got a breatholizer and

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<v Speaker 4>for one glass of wine, mine was like double what

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<v Speaker 4>everybody else would blow. My body just doesn't process alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I will say soberly. I have rolled almost every

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<v Speaker 2>stop sign I've ever countered throughout my entire.

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<v Speaker 4>Life, exactly. I grew up in California. We roll stop signs.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everyone rolls. When's the last time anybody whoever's

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<v Speaker 2>listening to this, I want you to think about the

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<v Speaker 2>last time you completely stopped, like like I'm talking complete stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Your car rolls like rolls back kind of a stop

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<v Speaker 2>at a stop sign where there's nobody else at like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, I mean I'm rolling stops all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. How long do you have to wear

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<v Speaker 2>the thing? For?

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred and twenty days? So I got it October eleventh,

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<v Speaker 4>and I will get it off February eighth. I believe

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<v Speaker 4>so im just over a.

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<v Speaker 2>Month today, and I I just the like part of

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<v Speaker 2>your ankle that the brace covers get really gross because

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<v Speaker 2>you can't wash it.

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<v Speaker 4>No. I can shower with it, thankfully, and submerged it

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<v Speaker 4>in water.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't submerge it in water.

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<v Speaker 4>No, so it you can't submerge it. But you can

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<v Speaker 4>take a shower because it's or you can see the shower,

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<v Speaker 4>But you can't take a bath.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens if you take it off does to explode.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't take it off. I have to go to

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<v Speaker 4>the jail and they use a special little tool and

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<v Speaker 4>then it sends all these alerts to the police station

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<v Speaker 4>that the monitor has been unlocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you allowed?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I'm allowed to drive. I do have a

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<v Speaker 4>breathalyzer in my car, So I am double sober with

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<v Speaker 4>an ankle monitor and a breathalizer in my car.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this your first defense? I feel like this sound

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<v Speaker 2>this sounds like second defense kind of a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's my first defense. It's just Utah. I also had

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<v Speaker 4>a wax pen in my car, which I don't smoke weed.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even do drugs, but it was an ex

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<v Speaker 4>boyfriend and whax as a felony out here, So also

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<v Speaker 4>getting the monitor kind of drop the felony charges. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, you know what, all take an ankle

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<v Speaker 4>monitor before I take a felony.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, shit, that's very Yeah. Utah is very like more

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<v Speaker 2>many holy we don't do that stuff around here kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>A place, which is crazy because growing up in California,

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<v Speaker 4>I never really like partied, and being out in Utah

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<v Speaker 4>never party harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about the Utah party scene.

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<v Speaker 4>It's weird. It's like, I think, because the data is

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<v Speaker 4>so strict that everybody just feels the need to constantly

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 4>be under the influence of something.

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Are you born and raised there? You just said, Oh,

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 2>you said you were born in California.

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I was born in California. I grew up there,

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 4>and I lived in Tahoe for a little bit, and

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 4>then I moved to Utah two years ago.

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 2>What'd you move here for?

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 4>Uh? Just a snowboard?

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Cool? Really, just a snowboard. Did you know anyone when

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>you moved.

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 4>Nope, you didn't know a soul.

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>How long ago did you move?

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 4>Two years ago?

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 2>And how's it gone?

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 4>It was going good up until this, and now I'm

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 4>probably gonna go back to California.

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna do in California?

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I kind of want to move to

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 4>southern California. I grew up in northern so I feel

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 4>like southern it would be kind of a nice change.

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 4>And I'm kind of an adventurous person. I feel like

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 4>Southern California kind of has a little bit more to

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 4>all for me. I do spontaneous things a lot. And

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 4>also since I've had this inkle monitor, I was kind

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 4>of nervous. But my probational officer let me go to

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Vegas for SEMA, which is the car show, which I

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 4>was really surprised he let me go to Vegas, but

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 4>he did. And I convinced the guy sitting next to

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 4>me on the plane, complete stranger, to take me to

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 4>the Hoover Dam.

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>You convinced the guy on the plane with you from

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Utah to Vegas to take you to the Hoover Dam.

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I had never been and I really wanted.

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 2>To go, and so he like drove there.

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 4>At first he was really hesitant. He was like no,

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 4>and then uh, we weren't. Really. No one said anything

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 4>on the plane because I had to. I awkwardly sat

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 4>in the middle seat. It was the last seat available

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 4>on the plane, and of course I had to sit there.

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 4>And so I'm sitting between these two dudes and We're

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 4>just like talking about the Hoover Dam and I was like, yeah,

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 4>I've never been, so if you guys want to take me,

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 4>that'd be cool. And they were like kind of for it,

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 4>but they were a little hesitant, and then the one

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 4>guy was like, well maybe, and I was like, okay, well,

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 4>if you do take me, just a little disclosure, like

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm on probation. I have an inkle monitor. I was like,

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 4>do you want to see it? And then the other

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 4>guy was like, you know what, I don't want to go.

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 4>And then the other guy was like, you know what,

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 4>I'll take you. So I let a stranger take me

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 4>to the Hoover Dam.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Was this like a date?

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 4>No, No, I just wanted to go and he had

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 4>time to kill So.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 2>It says here you also you also messaged me to

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 2>say that you had a stranger take you to Mexico.

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 4>So last summer. It was last summer I went to

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 4>visit my cousin who goes to San Diego State, and

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 4>I thought he would let me go to class with him.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 4>He was super opposed to that and said, no, find

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 4>something else to do during the day, So with any

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 4>solo board traveler would do. I took the train and

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to go to Tijuana for a couple hours,

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 4>and so on the train, I kept like, I guess

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 4>I was looking around super like suspiciously, and the guy

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 4>behind me handed me his phone and was like, you

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 4>look lost, and I was like, no, like I know

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 4>where I'm going, and he was like, okay, just making

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 4>sure are you by yourself? And I was like at

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 4>the moment, yes, but I won't be because I was like,

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what his intentions are. But also I

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 4>was like, okay, he's typing on his phone, so clearly

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 4>he's not like making it known to everybody else on

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 4>the train. And so we typed on his phone for

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 4>probably like thirty minutes because it was a two hour

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 4>train ride, and finally he goes, you want to take

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 4>an uber It'll be ten minutes, and I was like sure.

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 4>So we get off this train and we're standing like

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 4>on the side of the road by a military base,

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 4>going to tea on it. And then we get in

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 4>the uber and then I was like, you know what,

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 4>I could get kidnapped right now. Like this man hasn't

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 4>said a word to me. Everything's been over text and

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 4>so I got a panic and I like start pulling

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 4>little hairs out of my hair and leaving him in

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 4>the car and just like putting my fingerprints on stuff.

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 2>You've been So you you this guy next to you,

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>you you don't speak a word with him, but you

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>just hand your phone back and forth with each other.

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Well, so he handed me his phone and he

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 4>was like, are you lost? Like do you know where

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 4>you're going?

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 2>He had typedesap or something.

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And so so you guys are right.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>So you guys are so so. So you guys are

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>sitting next to each other, but instead of talking, you

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 2>are handing this his phone back and forth.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So he was actually like a row behind me,

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 4>so you could like see me like kind of like

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 4>looking at the train map and like looking at my

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 4>phone at like all the stops.

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you get off of this train with this

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 2>guy who you have not spoken a word to but

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 2>you're just texting back and forth with his phone.

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he showed me that he had ordered an uber.

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 4>I know it sounds super dumb when I say it

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 4>out loud, but I was like, okay, he ordered an uber.

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 4>Ubers are secure, Like I felt kind of safe. I

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 4>didn't really question it. And then he was like, okay,

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 4>like follow me through the like the like the I

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 4>don't know what it's called at the border, but there's

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 4>like visitors and then people who have like citizenships, and

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 4>he was like, just walked through who's like, don't stand

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 4>too close to me, but just like kind of follow

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 4>and I was like okay. And so then I get

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 4>pulled aside and then they're like rodge your passport blah

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 4>blah blah. And then I didn't have it, and I

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 4>was like, I'm just coming in for a couple hours

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 4>and then leaving, and so they made me buy a

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 4>day visa, which is only he's like fifteen bucks, and

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 4>I was like, sure, like, all.

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 2>You can get into Mexico without a passport by just

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>giving them fifteen dollars.

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 4>Yes, kind of crazy.

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 2>That is kind of crazy.

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:18.760
<v Speaker 4>Didn't so this guy still has not said a word

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 4>to me at all, and I figured, okay, well, maybe

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:22.720
<v Speaker 4>there's just like a language.

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Why haven't you Why why haven't Why haven't you? I

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 2>don't understand. You got off the train with this guy.

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Why haven't you? Why are you not talking to him?

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, so I would say things like to him, but

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 4>he would always type back. So I figured like, maybe

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 4>English isn't his first language, and so like maybe the barrier,

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 4>but he could hype really good English, but maybe he

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 4>just wasn't comfortable speaking it.

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, was he Mexican?

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, yeah, And so once we crossed the border,

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 4>he's like, oh, my cousin can give you a ride

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 4>wherever you wanted to go because I called him I

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 4>just want to go to the beach, get a taco margarita.

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 4>And he was like, my cousin can take you. And

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 4>then I was like, you know what, That's where I

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 4>got to draw the line, because then it's like, okay,

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 4>it's not an uber, nothing's getting tracked. But so were

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 4>across the border and we're standing in front of I

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 4>don't know if it's Oxo's or o Xxo's, but I

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 4>call him Oxos. It's like the seven eleven of Mexico. Yeah, yeah,

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 4>and this like suv pulls up behind him because he's

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 4>facing me, so he has his back to the road,

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 4>and then the guy like honks his horn and the

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 4>guy doesn't flinch. I was like hmm. And then he

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 4>turns around and then they see each other, and then

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 4>they start signing to each other in like sign language.

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 4>So I was like, oh, he's either deaf or mute.

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, you know what, that makes sense

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 4>why he has not said a word to me. So

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.399
<v Speaker 4>I guess I let a death or mute man take

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 4>me across the border.

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Did you How did you end this interaction with this man?

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 4>I told him I appreciated his uber and uh, I

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 4>wished him well and that I was going to take

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 4>a taxi.

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I mean that's probably good to not get in

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:21.280
<v Speaker 2>like a random guy's cousin's car in Tijuana.

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, And so every time I tell people this story,

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 4>my main priority was obviously not to get kidnapped, but

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 4>I like to make light of the situation. And I

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 4>had my cousin's house key, which is the only house

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 4>key to the house at the time, and so my

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 4>goal was don't get kidnapped because I had the key

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 4>to the house and my cousin would not have been happy.

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I like that you. I like that your

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 2>relationship with your cousin is such that if you got

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 2>kidnapped in Mexico, their first thought would be, oh, no,

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 2>she is the keys to my house.

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. He probably he probably wouldn't have been too happy

0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 4>with that one. And I didn't tell him I was

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 4>going to Mexico either, so he just thought I was

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 4>roaming around near the campus.

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, are you constantly getting into these crazy adventures?

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 4>I want to say no, but if you were to

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 4>ask my friend, they would probably say one hundred percent.

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're not.

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Always that extreme, but they're definitely kind of out there.

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 2>What's your whole what's your name again? By the way, Uh, Lauren, Lauren?

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.439
<v Speaker 2>What's your whole? Prerogative? Lauren? What are you doing? What's

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 2>your deal?

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:37.479
<v Speaker 4>I do? I have no idea. Like I'm twenty four.

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I've done so much in such a

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 4>short time. Like I don't really have family problems. It's

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 4>not like it's me like lashing out and stuff like that.

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 4>I just I don't know. Maybe it's like I didn't

0:37:56.200 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 4>have enough, like not control, but my parents telling me like, hey,

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 4>don't do that type of thing growing up. So it's

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 4>like Worlds the Oyster. I'm gonna keep going like I

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 4>do understand consequences. Obviously, I have an inkle monitor.

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 2>But what's next for you? What do you want to

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>be next?

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 4>That's a good question. I'm having the inkle monitor. I

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 4>have had my highs of highs and the lowest of lows,

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 4>so I've had a lot of time for self reflection. Definitely,

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.280
<v Speaker 4>once I get this off, I probably will just stay sober.

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 4>But I don't know. I kind of wanted to get

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 4>there was like a small timeframe where I thought about

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 4>getting into like being a probation officer because I was like,

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 4>you know what, I kind of like this, Like I

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 4>check in with my probation officer every day. I went

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 4>into the jail and like talk to the other probation

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.240
<v Speaker 4>officer for three hours just about life.

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Are you are you going to move? So you're planning

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>on moving to La or I guess southern.

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Probably like San Diego to Mecula.

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you try to become a probation.

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Maybe. I mean it was just like an idea that

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 4>crossed my mind because I also used to work for

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever had a super Cross?

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Wait, h is that just a bike thing?

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:42.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So in the summer they have pro Moto, which

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 4>is like their outdoor circuit, and I used to work

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.879
<v Speaker 4>for that. So I lived in a van, I got paid,

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 4>I live in my boss's van and drive cross country

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 4>with the mountain bikes for Specialized And so I really

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 4>enjoyed that, and I met a lot of people in

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 4>the industry and it's given me a lot of connections

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 4>that I think it'd be super cool to get back into.

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 4>Not necessarily like writing because I don't race, but something

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 4>in the sports industry.

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>That could be cool. I do you do? You do

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 2>you predict that you will still have a have a

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 2>lust for adventure and want to go to weird places

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:29.919
<v Speaker 2>by yourself and hang out with strangers. Absolutely, yeah, I'm

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 2>sort of addicted. I'm sort of addicted to that too,

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.280
<v Speaker 2>But I'm good. I'm at a point in my life

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 2>I've been thinking about this a lot. I I do,

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I do. I like to do that, And you know

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of what I do in my career as

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 2>a gecko is that I did it even before I

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 2>had I was doing the Gecko thing, but also a

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.479
<v Speaker 2>lot of part of me is like wonders how much

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 2>longer I can do that before it's I don't know,

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess sad or yeah, or or it gets me

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 2>only or whatever. I mean, I'm only. I'm about to

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 2>be twenty six years old in a month.

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so we're similar to the same age.

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's your birthday December.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.240
<v Speaker 4>Twentieth, Okay, I'm January fourth.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm about to be twenty six. And I don't know.

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Brother's still like I I you know, I get all

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 2>these da I mean, I get all these dms from people.

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean on the podcast a couple of weeks ago,

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 2>I guy was talking to the guy in Pakistan and

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned that people should DM me to go, you know,

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 2>film a video with them in a crazy place. And

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I still want to do all that stuff. And you know,

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>there's this guy on YouTube. His name is Peter Santanello.

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anyone knows who he is, but

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>he's like inspiring to me because he's like forty five

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.240
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, and he's still running around making

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 2>videos all over the world, hanging out with strangers of

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 2>all different ages and you know, but he's also got

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 2>like a wife and shit, and you know, he's not fat,

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I think that could be cool if I

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 2>could do that, if I could have some kind of

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 2>like stable life and you know, a semblance of real

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, relationship home kind of a thing, but also

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>be able to you know, go hang out. Yeah, hang

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 2>out with a stranger in Mexico and not die and

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 2>make a video about it. So I don't know, maybe

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>there's a way to buy in all those universes.

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Because I also work at a like a restaurant

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 4>bar out here in Utah, and the other day one

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 4>of my tables was these guys that are on a

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:48.320
<v Speaker 4>hockey team, and so they were playing the Utah Grizzlies

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 4>and just me just over sharing my life. The one

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 4>guy was like, give me your number and I'll give

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 4>you some tickets. So I went to the game and

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 4>then we were just chatting after and I was like,

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 4>I guess I'll have to come to Canada. But then

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 4>we remember, data can't really go to Canada with a

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 4>criminal record, which I don't know if I technicues. I

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 4>think I do have a criminal record, unfortunately, But you

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 4>can't go. So then I told him. I was like, well,

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 4>it looks like you're either gonna have to come back

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 4>to Utah, California or go to Mexico with me. And

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 4>so we're going to plan a Mexico trip. And I've

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 4>met this guy once, but I mean, the odds of

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 4>it following through are probably slim. But also I'm the

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 4>type of person that's like, if I invite you to

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 4>go on a trip with me, even if you don't go,

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.280
<v Speaker 4>I'll probably still go on the trip.

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I'd say that's the way to do it. That's the

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 2>way to do it.

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:39.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So if you ever want to go to Mexico, gag,

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 4>we could go.

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny you mentioned that I'm moving away.

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I don't know what the fuck I'm gonna do.

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 2>But I have been wanting to go to Tijuana even

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 2>though I've heard it. You can be a little crazy.

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:55.239 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 4>Luckily, my mom has a house in Portavarta, so that's

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 4>where I would prefer to go, but don't want to.

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 4>Crossing the border is really fun. It's a little time consuming,

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 4>but the adventure is there.

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Does your mom make good tostatus?

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 4>No? My mom? Well, my mom is white. My dad's Mexican.

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 4>Bless my mom, but she can't She can cook, but

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 4>she can't really cook. My dad's a better cook. My

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 4>parents don't know that I had a DUI.

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh they don't.

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 4>This happened in May and it's already November and they

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 4>still don't know. And I'm going home for Christmas and

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 4>I am on the fence whether or not I want

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 4>to tell them or not. And I have an ankle monitor,

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:59.919
<v Speaker 4>so it's like, okay, but look, how you just wear pants. Well,

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 4>but it's also California, so it could potentially be warm.

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 4>Probably not.

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 2>But how do you think they would react to seeing

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>that you have the ankle modeler?

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 4>Probably a little disappointed.

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 2>M Lauren. I don't know you very well, but you

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 2>seem like you can deal with people being a little

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 2>disappointed in you.

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeahau as long. So that's the thing, is like

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 4>getting a toe is it's not the worst thing in

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:35.280
<v Speaker 4>the world, but it definitely should give everybody a reality

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:39.439
<v Speaker 4>check if you've ever gotten one. And it has given

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:43.439
<v Speaker 4>me like the world's biggest reality check. Uh. And I'm

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 4>i the reason I can joke about my situation and

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 4>make it so lighthearted because I understand and I can

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 4>acknowledge the consequences that could have happened, Like it could

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 4>have gone so much worse. I could have wrecked my car,

0:45:56.280 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 4>I could have killed somebody, like all the w but

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 4>in my case, I just barely rolled a stop sign

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 4>and that was on and off the road. That was it.

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 2>So I hope that you you know, I don't know.

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm back and forth on the whole whether you know,

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 2>I hope. I hope that you are able to have

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 2>further adventures in your life. I don't get, you know,

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm kind of bullshitting myself because I don't see why,

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:31.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, just because I mean, we're a similar age,

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.720
<v Speaker 2>and I don't see why just because we turned some age,

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to stop going on weird adventures. I don't know.

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.879
<v Speaker 2>I think all that stuff is arbitrary. So I hope

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 2>you continue to go on as many weird adventures as

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 2>you want, you know, within the bounds of safety, of course, yeah.

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.439
<v Speaker 4>Which I mean, I always, I always. Sometimes I don't

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 4>think in the moment, but I feel like I always

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 4>do have a good gut feeling and I do have

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 4>a good head on my shoulders and I kind of

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 4>know when to draw the line and if I'm pushing

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 4>that line a little too much. And like that's the

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 4>thing too, is even just trying to date, it's hard

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.359
<v Speaker 4>to find guys that are gonna be like you did

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.760
<v Speaker 4>what you let a stranger take you where? Like okay, yeah,

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 4>I did, I let a stranger take me somewhere, but

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 4>like I don't know, I survived. I'm here.

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's a good point. I think about that

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 2>all the time when like you ever meet somebody old

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:39.440
<v Speaker 2>and they tell you and they not old, but like

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 2>like somebody who's like a crazy, reckless driver and they're

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 2>like twenty five, yeah, and you're like, wow, you've probably

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 2>been driving like this for nine years and you haven't died.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty crazy. Yeah, And I think about that if

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like ever in the car with them, I'll think

0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 2>about that, because I've been in a car with a

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 2>crazy driver couple of times, and I like, while I'm

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 2>praying that we're not going to die, I think to myself,

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, why, now, why would they if they've

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 2>been driving like this every day for nine years, why

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>would it be now with me in the car that

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>they would crash.

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you never know. It's one of those weird

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 4>things that's like people are always like, I don't know

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 4>how to say it. Like some people are like, if

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 4>it's your time, it's your time, and like everything kind

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:33.239
<v Speaker 4>of happens for a reason, and like I think me

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 4>getting this DUI kind of happened for a reason. It's

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 4>super shitty, but it is an expensive lesson and I'm

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 4>very thankful in a way because I've learned so much

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 4>about myself and like where my priorities are and what

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 4>I want out of life and stuff like that.

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, Lauren, is there anything else you want to say

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 2>to the people of the computer before we go?

0:48:57.640 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 4>I know you you said something about like everybody always

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 4>say something inspirational. I thought about it. I was like, oh,

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't drink.

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 2>A jive, but okay, so I'm just get there's a

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 2>sign note real quick. One time I was I was

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 2>not expecting this to go viral within the gecko community.

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 2>But one time I said on the podcast, everyone always

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 2>answers that, because I say at the end of every call,

0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:22.879
<v Speaker 2>if it trens anything else you want to say, And

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 2>I said one time that everyone always answers it with

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 2>a motivational thing, and I think I said, you don't

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 2>have to do that. And I said that once and

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 2>now every time I ask the question, everyone responds by saying, oh,

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I know you don't like it when people say motivational things.

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 2>All I was saying, I don't have to say something,

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 2>but you say whatever, say whatever you want. Lauren.

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, I think I'm gonna go with send the

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:52.360
<v Speaker 4>forty dollars on an uber because ten thousand dollars is

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 4>not worth it.

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I like that. Uh, thank you for calling, Lauren. Have

0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 2>a rest of the night.

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 4>You do by Oh.

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'm going.

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 4>To to Juana call from Kaylee?

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hi, how's it going. It's going good? What's up? Kaylee?

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Not much? I'm just hanging out in bed?

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Wow? Are you are you? Are you comfy? Cozy? As

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 2>they would say, comfy.

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Cozy, so comfy cozy.

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Rock and roll. That's a good place to be. Well,

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>let's let's get a little uncomfortable, shall we. That's a

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 2>weird thing to say. What's up? What's your name? Say

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 2>your name one more time?

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Kaylee?

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Kayley, Okay, that's what I thought it was, Kaylee. What

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 2>would you want to talk about today.

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:53.319
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I'm a little unhappy at where I am in

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:57.719
<v Speaker 3>my life right now in general, mostly because I'm in

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 3>a PhD program and I have been thinking about leaving

0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 3>for like a year. Now.

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>What PhD program are you in?

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:13.959
<v Speaker 3>I am getting my degree in molecular cell biology.

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I can see why you want to quit. Yeah,

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:21.400
<v Speaker 2>it sounds awful. What made you want to do that?

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:27.240
<v Speaker 3>Well? In college, I ended up working in a research

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:31.399
<v Speaker 3>lab and I kind of liked it, and I was like, well,

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 3>why not keep doing this for a little bit longer

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 3>and so I can figure out a more like stable

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 3>career path. So I figured grad school was a really

0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 3>great option, and now I hate my life.

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:48.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not. I mean, looking at cells, right, they move

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 2>slightly every once in a while, don't they? Oh?

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah they do.

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 1>It's so I ended up doing so.

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 3>I ended up joining a cancer rec search labs. And

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:04.360
<v Speaker 3>one of the things that kind of goes through my

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 3>head all the time is, Wow, cancer is like so

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 3>hard to study. I don't know if anything I'll ever

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.280
<v Speaker 3>do will amount to any sort of treatment for anyone.

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 3>So it just feels really futile and kind of like,

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:19.279
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 2>It's funny. You know, I think it's so funny. Is

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:27.960
<v Speaker 2>just you represent this idea that, like, you know, humanity

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 2>never finds the cure to cancer because you know, we

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 2>just got bored.

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 1>You know. I wish that. I wish that was.

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:41.879
<v Speaker 2>Bored of sitting in like all the scientists that we're

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:44.239
<v Speaker 2>working on it, we're looking at cells and writing things

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 2>down and being like, this fucking sucks. I want to

0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 2>go get high and moved and play video games. This

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<v Speaker 2>is fucking boring, And it's actually kind of cool that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a lot of people who do do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but as a whole science, even though it's boring to

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<v Speaker 2>sit and look at cells, we still do it and

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like my there are there definitely are people

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<v Speaker 3>that hate their lives in grad school because they think

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<v Speaker 3>it's boring. I feel like I still definitely have an

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<v Speaker 3>interest in science. It's just I think the whole process

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<v Speaker 3>is overwhelming. I think the structure of academia is stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if what I want to do with

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<v Speaker 3>my life now I necessarily need a PhD. There's all

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<v Speaker 3>sorts of factors that that are contributing what you want.

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<v Speaker 2>To do with your What do you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>with your life? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>That is a great question. I've always told myself that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be a professor or run a

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<v Speaker 3>labor anything that I just want to go sell my

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<v Speaker 3>soul and work for big pharma. But nice, but those

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<v Speaker 3>jobs are so incredibly hard to get. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I necessarily want to grow cells in

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<v Speaker 3>a dish and give mice cancer anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's everyone shits on being a sellout, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know how hard it is to get those

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<v Speaker 2>sell out jobs. It's not easy selling out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh definitely, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Do you wanna uh, well, if you quit

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<v Speaker 2>your PhD today, what would your what would tomorrow look like?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm? Well, I think my my, my boss, and my

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<v Speaker 3>lab would probably let me stay until I found this job,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would probably start looking at jobs in science

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<v Speaker 3>in my city. It's like there there there are some,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think I I would probably be able to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Something, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I reflect back to like, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>sound really stupid. I reflect back to like high school

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<v Speaker 3>when I was a cashier at a grocery store, and

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<v Speaker 3>I like, really enjoyed talking to people, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I would like doing some retail or customer service

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<v Speaker 3>for like a little while and then just to get

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<v Speaker 3>my bearings. But I know, I'm sure lots of people

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<v Speaker 3>in customer service are like yelling, being like, do not

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<v Speaker 3>do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you done? Wait? Hollo? I said, but you've done

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<v Speaker 2>it before.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of so. I don't know if you count

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<v Speaker 3>cashier at a grocery store as like retail.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how long were you doing that for?

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<v Speaker 3>I just like two years in high school?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? And did anyone ever come in and spit on

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<v Speaker 2>you and make you want to never do it ever again?

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<v Speaker 3>No? But I did have weird middle aged men try

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<v Speaker 3>and hit on me when I was like fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, did well about But I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think what's your name again, Kayley. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that the decision to be like looking at cells sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do something with my hands and look

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<v Speaker 2>at people and talk to them. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a bad call. I don't think it's a bad call.

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<v Speaker 2>Well because also, I mean, yeah, you say that people

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<v Speaker 2>in customer service might be listening to this and screaming

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<v Speaker 2>at you not to do it. But everyone's everyone's wired differently.

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<v Speaker 2>They are so for there are some jobs that for

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<v Speaker 2>some people are the you know, hellish, and then for

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:40.960
<v Speaker 2>other people they are you know, like you know, bagging

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<v Speaker 2>groceries and talking to old ladies and stuff. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's a bad move to. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's bad to you know, what is it two steps back,

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<v Speaker 2>one step forward, or two steps back, three steps forward

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<v Speaker 2>some shit like that, something.

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<v Speaker 3>With steps the step steps like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Steps at up to be good step but yeah, why not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's just it's just such a big decision because

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<v Speaker 3>if I left, I probably would never be able to

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<v Speaker 3>go back and get a PhD if that's something I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to go back to, at least at the university

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<v Speaker 3>on that now. So it's just a big can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just learn all that? Look, whatever you're learning in your PhD,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure is on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>I man, maybe I missed, Maybe I missed.

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<v Speaker 4>A big video essay about how to cure cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet no, I bet I bet there's a guy

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<v Speaker 2>on the YouTube who knows, like, here's how to cure

0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 2>cancer from a cell. It's you know, it's probably like

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 2>a three hour long video, but you'll know how to

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<v Speaker 2>do it by the end.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll have to do a deep dive definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Kaylee, I'm glad that I was able to successfully

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<v Speaker 2>convince you to make a major life decision.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm appreciate it, Lyle, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Is is there anything else you want to say to

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<v Speaker 2>the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I well, I know you get so many callers

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 3>that are like, I've been listening to you for ages,

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 3>but I'm kind of a recent caller. I started listening

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<v Speaker 3>to your podcast like a couple of months ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>oh cool.

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<v Speaker 4>They definitely brightened my days.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. Thanks man, I'm glad you I'm glad it's no.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's awesome. I'm glad the new people are

0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 2>are are listening to the pod. I hope, I hope

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 2>that you continue to listen for as long as you

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:33.440
<v Speaker 2>enjoy listening.

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<v Speaker 4>You got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll be back.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks again, Take care, Cayley, all right, have a good night.

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Karen cancer sounds boring as hell, never bek and goes

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<v Speaker 2>on the line, thank yous all calls every night, never

0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:51.920
<v Speaker 2>goes to what guy just teaching you?

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<v Speaker 1>A loud and lively expert