1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: All from Violet July. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hey, what's up? 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Is this the Gecko? 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Who is this? 6 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: No way, I'm Violet July. 7 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: Violet July. Ooh that's do you know who the insane 8 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: clown Posse are? 9 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: I know of them? 10 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: Yes, the head guy. His name is Violent j which 11 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: is not violent. His name is Violent j and yours 12 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: is Violet July. 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't even put those two and two together, 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: but that's cool. 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: What's up, Violet July. Do you go by Violet July 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: or does do you ever go by Violet? 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: I go by Violet. It's a recent thing. I started 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: going by my musician name. But I'm not really here 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: to talk about my music, I guess at all. 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: So you picked you picked the name Violet I did? 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: I picked it myself. 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: Was it inspired at all by the daughter from the Incredibles? 23 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: No, it was more like Violet Boudelaire from a Series 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: of Unfortunate event. 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: Oh, there's Violet, Violet Bouldelaire. Is that her name? 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: I thought you were saying Violet Beauregard. Who is the 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: name of the of the of the girl who I think? 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: I think that's the girl who turns into a giant 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: blueberry in the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie. 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: Oh that was Violet. Yeah, Violet, dou regard. 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: Those two things? They sound similar. Yeah, well, enough about 33 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: fictional characters. What's going on with you, Violet? 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: So actually I'm in a debate on whether or not 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: I should be a stripper again. 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: Ah okay, uh. 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: So I was a stripper for four years. I'm twenty five. 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: I started when I was nineteen. I stopped when I 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: was twenty three. But I'm also in recovery. I'm a 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: cocaine addict. I did the cocaine mostly when I was 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: working music festivals, not stripping, but still cocaine is at 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: strip club and I work a retail job now and 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: it's not paying enough for my solver living. And I'm 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: debating on whether or not I should dance two days 45 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: a week on a day shift somewhere because I'm on 46 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: a proper sleep schedule now. My only issue is is 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: that I'm worried if someone offers me cocaine, I will 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: do it and I will ruin my life again. And 49 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I've rewrapped four times. I've been to rehab four times, 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: and I'm doing really well now, like I'm happy for 51 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: once in my life, like I'm actually enjoying living, which 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: is crazy. I never thought that I would enjoy living. 53 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: But I really need the money. And I've also been 54 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: feeling that kind of sexually charged recently, like I felt 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: like it would be a good way to express myself 56 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: and feel sexy again. I guess because it's been a 57 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: while and I don't know. There comes a lot of 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: stigma that comes with though, so I don't and that's 59 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: never bothered me. But now I'm kind of at the 60 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: point in my life where I'd like to find somebody, 61 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: and not a lot of people are okay with dating 62 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: sex workers, so that's where I'm at. 63 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: I have a bunch of questions. First of all, congrats 64 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: on getting sober. 65 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: Thank you. 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: Now you have to so you have to pay to 67 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: be How does that work? You have to pay to 68 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: be in a sober living house? What's that whole situation? 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I pay to live in this overliving it's 70 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: like granting monthly, but they cover like electricity and Wi 71 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Fi and they get toilet paper for you. So I mean, yeah, 72 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: it's like a like a once a month charge for 73 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: all like all. 74 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: Bills paid, and did you like go to rehab and 75 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: then this is sort of like you're getting out of 76 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: rehab and transitioning via this. 77 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is post rehab. 78 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: And is the sober living like significantly more expensive than 79 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: if you were to just live in a normal place. 80 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: It's actually a lot cheaper. 81 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah hmm, that's fascinating. I mean, how long can you 82 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: stay there for? 83 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 1: As long as I want? As long as i'm parent? 84 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: Well, shit, all right, that's a great that's a fantastic situation. Yeah, 85 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: you like, is it like a dorm room kind of 86 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: shit where you're like hanging out with other people in 87 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: recovery and there's like meetings all the time and stuff. 88 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have two house meetings a week. I think 89 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: there's enough space here for twelve girls, but I think 90 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: we only have six, so we each have our own 91 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: rooms right now, M. 92 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: Very very Uh are you meeting? Are you meeting a 93 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: lot of friends? 94 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: I am. The thing about recovery is that I really 95 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: like is the community is really awesome. Like I love 96 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: going to meetings. I love going to like my IOP, 97 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: which stands for Intensive outpatient, which is basically just group therapy. 98 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: I really love it. Also, if I'm talking weird. It's 99 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: because I've just got my pumpures and I'm still trying 100 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: to like figure out how to speak with it. 101 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: I didn't hear that, But did you, like, did you 102 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: get one of those tongue piercings where like the tongue 103 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: is fucking split in half like Patrick's arms. 104 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: That would be cool, but now I just got like 105 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: a little piercing in the middle. 106 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: There is anyone else in this that you've met in 107 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: this recovery center? Is anyone else a former or current stripper? 108 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: No? 109 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: So all right, so tell me about the stripping you 110 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: did it from when you were nineteen too? How old? 111 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: Twenty three? 112 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: Okay? And at the time you were doing it? What 113 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: made you stop? 114 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: I got really burnt out and I switched to cam girling. 115 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: I was a cam girl for a while and I 116 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: really liked that. But I can't do that right now 117 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: because I live in sober living. I would just do that, 118 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: but like they won't really allow that, and sober living 119 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: because like moaning through the walls isn't really so there's 120 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: like six girls here, Like I just feel like it's 121 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: it's not When I did it, I lived with people 122 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: who understood, but I switched to camgirling and then I 123 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: went to rehab and I got really burnt out in 124 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: my back hurt. I was just I did it for 125 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: four years so and it was never anything that I 126 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: was passionate about. Like what I'm really passionate about, Like 127 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: I love working merch at festivals and concerts. I love 128 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: doing that, and then music. I love making music and 129 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: performing absolutely love it. I released my first song in January, 130 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping I can make a living doing that 131 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: one day. But it's like in the meantime, I need 132 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: something to get by, and like, starting a music project 133 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: is really expensive. Like I'm just a vocalist and lyricist. 134 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: I have to have people like mix my stuff. I 135 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: have a producer that I have to pay. Marketing costs money, 136 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: and I'm barely affording to live as it is. It's 137 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: like to get somewhere, I have to like invest in myself. 138 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: So that's why I think going back to the club 139 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: might be a good idea, because I mean, I could 140 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: pay for my project and I could pay for my 141 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: silver living and I have another job on top of that. 142 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's here. 143 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: What's your what's your other job? Oh right, you said retail. 144 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna yeah, retail, hmm. 145 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: You see. It's interesting. It's fascinating here you said that 146 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 2: you were a cam girl, because when you first said 147 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: like that, the main fear was that you would uh 148 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: get offered cocaine. I was like, while you could just 149 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: do the you know whatever the digital version of being 150 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: a stripper is, which, by the way, I you know, 151 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: I've always found that kind of I find it fascinating 152 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: that strip clubs even still really exist because I would assume, 153 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know that that like the 154 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: universe of the financials of being a stripper versus being 155 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: a cam girl, but I would assume that the benefits 156 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: of of of doing some kind of camming career is 157 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: better than being a stripper in person. 158 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, stripping is more money. But I really 159 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: liked camming, Like I felt like I could just be 160 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: myself on camera and it was it was a really 161 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: fun experience. I liked it a lot. 162 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: So how much of the decision of whether or not 163 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: you want to go back to stripping is monetary because 164 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: you mentioned that it's money, but you also mentioned that 165 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: you enjoy it in some degree that allows you some 166 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: degree of expression. 167 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm an extrovert. I love talking to people of 168 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: getting to know people, and like, how would I say 169 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: this without like, I don't know. I've been very sexually 170 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: charge recently because I think it's like you took away 171 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: my drugs and now my brain wants something else. Sure, 172 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: and I've been feeling very flirty and I've kind of 173 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: been acting out a little bit, like I've been making 174 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: out with people in my group therapy and I shouldn't 175 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: be doing that, Like that's I just don't And I 176 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: mean I've gotten non tender and met people and whatnot, 177 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: but it's a matter of like my I guess my 178 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: r right now is very flirty, and if I could 179 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: just express that and be that way and get paid 180 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: for it, that would be really cool, because I feel 181 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: like I've been a little inappropriate lately. It's just I 182 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: guess the vibe I'm giving out because I'm so sexually 183 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: frustrated and I don't I don't want, like I just 184 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: need a friends with benefits and I'm on the hunt 185 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: for one. But it's it's like I don't want all this. 186 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: I just I don't. I don't want to be screwing 187 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: around with people that I'm in recovery with you know, 188 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: and it's very hard for me not I have to. 189 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: I have to imagine. I have to. I know, there's 190 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: like sex addict stuff where you like, it's that that 191 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that must be a crazy can of worms. 192 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: But I have to imagine that that must be. There 193 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: has there has to be. I have to imagine that 194 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 2: in recovery communities in general, there's a lot of people fucking. 195 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's it's called flaw sex and Love Addicts anonymous, 196 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: and I am in it. 197 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: Uh are you fucking around with people in that group specifically? 198 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: No, that's like highly discouraged. Like at the beginning of 199 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how much I'm allowed to say because 200 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: it's anonymous, but it's it's a very that's highly discouraged. 201 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: I I I have to I assume with the with 202 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: the with the anonymous groups, you can talk about them 203 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: as long as you're not talking about a specific person. 204 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, you know, yeah, Well, at the beginning 205 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: of each meeting, they say, like, this is not a 206 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: hookup group, Like if anyone approaches you in an appropriate manner, 207 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: and like we all understand, like we're all kind of 208 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: in the same boat, so we don't want to like 209 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: trigger each other. Now with like group therapy and like 210 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: IOP and stuff like that, it's a little harder because 211 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: not everyone's a sex addict and it's not it is 212 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: found pond to like get a rehab romance or whatever 213 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: you call it. But it's like there's that that line 214 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: of respect isn't going both ways. Like someone might flirt 215 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: with me and it's very hard for me not to 216 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: flirt with them back, or I might flirt with someone. 217 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: But like in the in the Flaw program, it's very 218 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: like we're so there to try to get better that 219 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: we don't want to like fuck up anyone else's recovery. 220 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't want to fuck up anyone else's like 221 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: recovery and IOP either. 222 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: It's because how is the Tinder going. 223 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: I had a really good Tinder date yesterday, but I'm 224 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: afraid I would catch feelings for him, and I'm not 225 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: really in the place that I'm available to catch feelings 226 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: for people. 227 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: And that's. 228 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you just so you you just want to 229 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: have no strings attached sex with people. 230 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: I just want like one friends with benefits. I can 231 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: hit up a few times a week and I feel 232 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: like that would be enough for me. 233 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: I feel like on Tinder, you won't have an issue 234 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: finding that. 235 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a guy that he is the guy that 236 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: gives me my coffee and water when I'm at work. 237 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: We've been hanging out and we talked about a friends 238 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: benefits situation. It just hasn't happened yet, and I think 239 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: he would be good because I'm not I don't have 240 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: any romantic feelings for him. I don't see myself catching 241 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: any and he's really pretty. But the guy from tender 242 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: is actually really cool. And then I kind of started 243 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: having a friends with benefits thing with a girl but 244 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: she's in my iop and we sucked once and it 245 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: was really cool. 246 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: But then I was. 247 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: Gonna I was gonna ask. I know that the I 248 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: have to assume that the slog groups are separated by gender, 249 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: but if you're if you're into all the genders, you're fucked. 250 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 251 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: But I guess back to the original issue of like 252 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: should you become a stripper or not? I mean, look, 253 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: what about what about only fans? I said only fans? 254 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: Just now, as if I don't know what only like, 255 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: that's how that's how somebody who doesn't really know what 256 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: only fans is would say it only fans, but well, 257 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: I don't like fans once. 258 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't like only fans making content to me is 259 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: just I've done it. But like, I'm actually not that photogenic. 260 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: I look way better in life than doing photos. And 261 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: it's like only fans is, like, you gotta be consistent 262 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: with it. 263 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: You have to. 264 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: Constantly market yourself with camming and stripping. You kind of 265 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: just do it, and you gain a base with only fans. 266 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: You have to gain a base and then. 267 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: Do it right. 268 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, and I've I've done only fans. I did 269 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: it for a week, I made a lot of money, 270 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: deleted it, and it's just it's not my thing. Like 271 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: making content. I like making content, just not like sexual content. 272 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: Like I I don't know. I'm a creative. I have 273 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: a lot of ideas for videos. I write poetry, I 274 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: write short stories, I write plays. 275 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: I'm a writer. 276 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: I like editing videos. 277 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: Is just. 278 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't like making sexual content. 279 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: I like just being myself and talking and having my 280 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: aura and then doing that like photos and videos are 281 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: just kind of whatever. 282 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: So how long have you been so the did you 283 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: go to like a sex and love rehab at the 284 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: same time as the cocaine rehab. 285 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: No, I don't think that exists. Actually, I mean it might, 286 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: but I haven't been the one. 287 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: Wait. How long have you been in the slaw for? Mmm? 288 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: Maybe like six months? 289 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: Okay, how long you been in the cocaine stuff for. 290 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: The first time I went to rehab was a year ago. 291 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: M hm. How is the retail job going? Where? Where 292 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: is where is that at? 293 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't like it. I'm just not passionate about it. 294 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: It's a lingerie store. I'm just it's really hard for 295 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: me to find jobs I'm passionate about. I'm not passionate 296 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: about sex work, but at least I like it. And 297 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: I don't dislike this retail job. I'm just it's boring, 298 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: and I mean, I guess people have to work boring jobs. 299 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to complain about it. I'm grateful to 300 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: have this job. It's just if I have to have 301 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: a career, I just want to do something i'm passionate about. Like, 302 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: all I want to do is write songs and poetry, 303 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: and I've written books, and I just I want to 304 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: do music first. So I have a people that will 305 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: read my stuff, and I just I don't know. 306 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 4: The job is cool. 307 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: I like the girls that work there. It's just I'm 308 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: not passionate about it and it doesn't pay a whole time. 309 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: Well, I you know, I think it's good. I think 310 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: it's good that you have a lot of things you 311 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: want to do, you know. The way you're talking about them, 312 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 2: they're like, it's almost and I do this too. I 313 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: do this too. What I'm about to say that you're doing, 314 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: I do this too. And that's why I'm telling you 315 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: that I'm seeing you do it. Is like all these 316 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 2: passions that you are talking about, like you know what ever, 317 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: making music or writing things like they're almost like waits 318 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: the way you're talking about them, you know, But I 319 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: think they're good to have all these things that you 320 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: want to do. And then weirdly, like weirdly, these things 321 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: they come with like attachments of like I need to 322 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: make money doing this or be successful doing this, And 323 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: I think there's that a big part of like trying 324 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: to be happy with them is removing those kind of 325 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: unnecessary attachments. And again I I I completely and utterly 326 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: do that myself. And that's the only reason I'm talking 327 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 2: about it. 328 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really appreciate you. 329 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: Go go. 330 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: I watch your steam a lot, and I'm always like, 331 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: I wonder if I'll get to talk to them one day? 332 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: What is What does the future look like for you? 333 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: Violet Violent? I'm gonna just call you violent Violent July, Violet, 334 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 2: Violet July. What's the future look is? 335 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Violet July? I More poetry, more music, more connection, more love, 336 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: more kindness, more enlightenment. 337 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: And less cocaine. 338 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, and less cocaine. 339 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Well, I wish I could have I I 340 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: it's been It's been great talking to you. I wish 341 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: I could have been of some form of help in 342 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: you making your decision. 343 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: You're great. It was great to just be able to 344 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: vent about it. Thank you. 345 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess you could. There's a way 346 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: you could. You could combine all these things. You could be. 347 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: You could be the stripping poet. You you take off 348 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: one piece of clothing for every every bar. What do 349 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: you go Are they Is that just rap? Or is 350 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: that in poetry too? 351 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: The bars they're called stamp. 352 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: Okay, every stanza, you take off one piece of clothing. 353 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: Do you do you want to hear poems. 354 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: Sure, let's close out with a poem. 355 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: Well, I have like. 356 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: Eight thousand pems in my phone notes. I'm just gonna 357 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: where is it? Let's go with Okay, the anti Christ 358 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: will entice the gentleman the medicine he needs to kill. 359 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: The weeds of the demiurge must be purged from his computer, 360 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: for the consumer is innocent, and the gentleman is ignorant 361 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: of the colors sent from the other side of reality. 362 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: For our immortality desires to go backwards. I heard the 363 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 1: gentleman's curls can lurel the girls into the catastrophe that 364 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: may be essopiric truth. But his geometric youth sings the 365 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: song of wires, that tire of intertwining the saging masses. 366 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: So when his soul passes, will he choose to continue 367 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole of hell? 368 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: Or will his shell grow roots? 369 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: That sounds like something Hermione would say to like turn 370 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: a demon into a bunny or something. It was a 371 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: good poem. Thank you, what's your name again? Violet Violent, 372 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: Violet July. 373 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 4: Violet July, Violet July. 374 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: Violet July, Is anything else you want to say to 375 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go. 376 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a song coming out on January first 377 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: at who is Violet July? If you feel like following, 378 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: I promise it didn't come here for music promo. But 379 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I appreciate everybody like you guys agree. 380 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: Also, check out Violent I don't know what his Instagram 381 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: handle is, but check out a violent violent J. Just 382 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: go to go to YouTube and type in violent J 383 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: Miracles and watch that video too while and watch Violet 384 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: stuff and also that thank. 385 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: You so much. 386 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: Have a good night, Violet. 387 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah you toobe by bye. 388 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 4: Hello. 389 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: What's your name? 390 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 4: Lauren? 391 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: Lauren? What's going on with you? Lauren? 392 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: Oh? 393 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 4: You know, just not really on house rest. But I 394 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 4: have a scram monitor on my ankle. 395 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: A scram monitor? 396 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, so it it depends alcohol in your sweat? 397 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: And is this because you are legally not allowed to 398 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: be consuming alcohol. 399 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 4: On twenty four but correct? 400 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: Yes, why are you not legally allowed to consume alcohol? 401 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 4: So I I rolled a stop sign and I had 402 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: alcohol in my system and I got pulled over and yeah, 403 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: a long story short, I got an ankle monitor. 404 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: What was that? Were you above the legal limit? 405 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? So I'm nott in Utah and Utah's legal limits 406 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: zero point zero five, which I mean still not great. 407 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: I don't condone it, But. 408 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: How much did you have to drink that night? 409 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 4: I really only probably had four glasses of wine throughout 410 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: a period of a couple hours, and I could, like 411 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 4: I remember the whole like pulling over, the arrest, everything, 412 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 4: so after like that whole situation, before I got the 413 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: angle monitor, I wanted to test the theory to see 414 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 4: how my body processed alcohol. So I had a wine 415 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 4: night with my friends and we got a breatholizer and 416 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: for one glass of wine, mine was like double what 417 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 4: everybody else would blow. My body just doesn't process alcohol. 418 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: Well, I will say soberly. I have rolled almost every 419 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 2: stop sign I've ever countered throughout my entire. 420 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: Life, exactly. I grew up in California. We roll stop signs. 421 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: I think everyone rolls. When's the last time anybody whoever's 422 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: listening to this, I want you to think about the 423 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: last time you completely stopped, like like I'm talking complete stop. 424 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: Your car rolls like rolls back kind of a stop 425 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: at a stop sign where there's nobody else at like 426 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I mean I'm rolling stops all the time, 427 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: all the time. How long do you have to wear 428 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 2: the thing? For? 429 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty days? So I got it October eleventh, 430 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 4: and I will get it off February eighth. I believe 431 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 4: so im just over a. 432 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: Month today, and I I just the like part of 433 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: your ankle that the brace covers get really gross because 434 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: you can't wash it. 435 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: No. I can shower with it, thankfully, and submerged it 436 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: in water. 437 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: You can't submerge it in water. 438 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: No, so it you can't submerge it. But you can 439 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: take a shower because it's or you can see the shower, 440 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 4: But you can't take a bath. 441 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: What happens if you take it off does to explode. 442 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 4: I can't take it off. I have to go to 443 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 4: the jail and they use a special little tool and 444 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 4: then it sends all these alerts to the police station 445 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: that the monitor has been unlocked. 446 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: Are you allowed? 447 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm allowed to drive. I do have a 448 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 4: breathalyzer in my car, So I am double sober with 449 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: an ankle monitor and a breathalizer in my car. 450 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 2: Is this your first defense? I feel like this sound 451 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: this sounds like second defense kind of a thing. 452 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 4: It's my first defense. It's just Utah. I also had 453 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 4: a wax pen in my car, which I don't smoke weed. 454 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: I don't even do drugs, but it was an ex 455 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 4: boyfriend and whax as a felony out here, So also 456 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 4: getting the monitor kind of drop the felony charges. So 457 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, all take an ankle 458 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 4: monitor before I take a felony. 459 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: Well, shit, that's very Yeah. Utah is very like more 460 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: many holy we don't do that stuff around here kind of. 461 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: A place, which is crazy because growing up in California, 462 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 4: I never really like partied, and being out in Utah 463 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: never party harder. 464 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: Tell me about the Utah party scene. 465 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 4: It's weird. It's like, I think, because the data is 466 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 4: so strict that everybody just feels the need to constantly 467 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 4: be under the influence of something. 468 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: Are you born and raised there? You just said, Oh, 469 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: you said you were born in California. 470 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was born in California. I grew up there, 471 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 4: and I lived in Tahoe for a little bit, and 472 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 4: then I moved to Utah two years ago. 473 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: What'd you move here for? 474 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 4: Uh? Just a snowboard? 475 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: Cool? Really, just a snowboard. Did you know anyone when 476 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: you moved. 477 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: Nope, you didn't know a soul. 478 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: How long ago did you move? 479 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: Two years ago? 480 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: And how's it gone? 481 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: It was going good up until this, and now I'm 482 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 4: probably gonna go back to California. 483 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do in California? 484 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. I kind of want to move to 485 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: southern California. I grew up in northern so I feel 486 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: like southern it would be kind of a nice change. 487 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: And I'm kind of an adventurous person. I feel like 488 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 4: Southern California kind of has a little bit more to 489 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: all for me. I do spontaneous things a lot. And 490 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 4: also since I've had this inkle monitor, I was kind 491 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: of nervous. But my probational officer let me go to 492 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 4: Vegas for SEMA, which is the car show, which I 493 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 4: was really surprised he let me go to Vegas, but 494 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: he did. And I convinced the guy sitting next to 495 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: me on the plane, complete stranger, to take me to 496 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: the Hoover Dam. 497 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: You convinced the guy on the plane with you from 498 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: Utah to Vegas to take you to the Hoover Dam. 499 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had never been and I really wanted. 500 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: To go, and so he like drove there. 501 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 502 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 4: At first he was really hesitant. He was like no, 503 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 4: and then uh, we weren't. Really. No one said anything 504 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 4: on the plane because I had to. I awkwardly sat 505 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: in the middle seat. It was the last seat available 506 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: on the plane, and of course I had to sit there. 507 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: And so I'm sitting between these two dudes and We're 508 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: just like talking about the Hoover Dam and I was like, yeah, 509 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 4: I've never been, so if you guys want to take me, 510 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: that'd be cool. And they were like kind of for it, 511 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 4: but they were a little hesitant, and then the one 512 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: guy was like, well maybe, and I was like, okay, well, 513 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 4: if you do take me, just a little disclosure, like 514 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 4: I'm on probation. I have an inkle monitor. I was like, 515 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 4: do you want to see it? And then the other 516 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: guy was like, you know what, I don't want to go. 517 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 4: And then the other guy was like, you know what, 518 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 4: I'll take you. So I let a stranger take me 519 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 4: to the Hoover Dam. 520 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: Was this like a date? 521 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: No, No, I just wanted to go and he had 522 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: time to kill So. 523 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: It says here you also you also messaged me to 524 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: say that you had a stranger take you to Mexico. 525 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 526 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: So last summer. It was last summer I went to 527 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: visit my cousin who goes to San Diego State, and 528 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: I thought he would let me go to class with him. 529 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: He was super opposed to that and said, no, find 530 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: something else to do during the day, So with any 531 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: solo board traveler would do. I took the train and 532 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 4: I wanted to go to Tijuana for a couple hours, 533 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 4: and so on the train, I kept like, I guess 534 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 4: I was looking around super like suspiciously, and the guy 535 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 4: behind me handed me his phone and was like, you 536 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 4: look lost, and I was like, no, like I know 537 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: where I'm going, and he was like, okay, just making 538 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: sure are you by yourself? And I was like at 539 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 4: the moment, yes, but I won't be because I was like, 540 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what his intentions are. But also I 541 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 4: was like, okay, he's typing on his phone, so clearly 542 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: he's not like making it known to everybody else on 543 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 4: the train. And so we typed on his phone for 544 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 4: probably like thirty minutes because it was a two hour 545 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 4: train ride, and finally he goes, you want to take 546 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: an uber It'll be ten minutes, and I was like sure. 547 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: So we get off this train and we're standing like 548 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 4: on the side of the road by a military base, 549 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 4: going to tea on it. And then we get in 550 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 4: the uber and then I was like, you know what, 551 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: I could get kidnapped right now. Like this man hasn't 552 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 4: said a word to me. Everything's been over text and 553 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 4: so I got a panic and I like start pulling 554 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: little hairs out of my hair and leaving him in 555 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: the car and just like putting my fingerprints on stuff. 556 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: You've been So you you this guy next to you, 557 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: you you don't speak a word with him, but you 558 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: just hand your phone back and forth with each other. 559 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: Yes, Well, so he handed me his phone and he 560 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: was like, are you lost? Like do you know where 561 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 4: you're going? 562 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: He had typedesap or something. 563 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so so you guys are right. 564 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: So you guys are so so. So you guys are 565 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: sitting next to each other, but instead of talking, you 566 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: are handing this his phone back and forth. 567 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. So he was actually like a row behind me, 568 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 4: so you could like see me like kind of like 569 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 4: looking at the train map and like looking at my 570 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 4: phone at like all the stops. 571 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so you get off of this train with this 572 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: guy who you have not spoken a word to but 573 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: you're just texting back and forth with his phone. 574 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he showed me that he had ordered an uber. 575 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 4: I know it sounds super dumb when I say it 576 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: out loud, but I was like, okay, he ordered an uber. 577 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 4: Ubers are secure, Like I felt kind of safe. I 578 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 4: didn't really question it. And then he was like, okay, 579 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 4: like follow me through the like the like the I 580 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: don't know what it's called at the border, but there's 581 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 4: like visitors and then people who have like citizenships, and 582 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: he was like, just walked through who's like, don't stand 583 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 4: too close to me, but just like kind of follow 584 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 4: and I was like okay. And so then I get 585 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 4: pulled aside and then they're like rodge your passport blah 586 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 4: blah blah. And then I didn't have it, and I 587 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: was like, I'm just coming in for a couple hours 588 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: and then leaving, and so they made me buy a 589 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: day visa, which is only he's like fifteen bucks, and 590 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 4: I was like, sure, like, all. 591 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: You can get into Mexico without a passport by just 592 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 2: giving them fifteen dollars. 593 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 4: Yes, kind of crazy. 594 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 2: That is kind of crazy. 595 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 4: Didn't so this guy still has not said a word 596 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 4: to me at all, and I figured, okay, well, maybe 597 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 4: there's just like a language. 598 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 2: Why haven't you Why why haven't Why haven't you? I 599 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: don't understand. You got off the train with this guy. 600 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 2: Why haven't you? Why are you not talking to him? 601 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 4: Well, so I would say things like to him, but 602 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 4: he would always type back. So I figured like, maybe 603 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 4: English isn't his first language, and so like maybe the barrier, 604 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 4: but he could hype really good English, but maybe he 605 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: just wasn't comfortable speaking it. 606 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: Okay, was he Mexican? 607 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, And so once we crossed the border, 608 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: he's like, oh, my cousin can give you a ride 609 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 4: wherever you wanted to go because I called him I 610 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 4: just want to go to the beach, get a taco margarita. 611 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 4: And he was like, my cousin can take you. And 612 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 4: then I was like, you know what, That's where I 613 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 4: got to draw the line, because then it's like, okay, 614 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: it's not an uber, nothing's getting tracked. But so were 615 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 4: across the border and we're standing in front of I 616 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 4: don't know if it's Oxo's or o Xxo's, but I 617 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 4: call him Oxos. It's like the seven eleven of Mexico. Yeah, yeah, 618 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 4: and this like suv pulls up behind him because he's 619 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 4: facing me, so he has his back to the road, 620 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 4: and then the guy like honks his horn and the 621 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 4: guy doesn't flinch. I was like hmm. And then he 622 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 4: turns around and then they see each other, and then 623 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 4: they start signing to each other in like sign language. 624 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, he's either deaf or mute. 625 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 4: And I was like, you know what, that makes sense 626 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: why he has not said a word to me. So 627 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 4: I guess I let a death or mute man take 628 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 4: me across the border. 629 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: Did you How did you end this interaction with this man? 630 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 4: I told him I appreciated his uber and uh, I 631 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 4: wished him well and that I was going to take 632 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 4: a taxi. 633 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's probably good to not get in 634 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 2: like a random guy's cousin's car in Tijuana. 635 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 636 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, And so every time I tell people this story, 637 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 4: my main priority was obviously not to get kidnapped, but 638 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 4: I like to make light of the situation. And I 639 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 4: had my cousin's house key, which is the only house 640 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 4: key to the house at the time, and so my 641 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 4: goal was don't get kidnapped because I had the key 642 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 4: to the house and my cousin would not have been happy. 643 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I like that you. I like that your 644 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: relationship with your cousin is such that if you got 645 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: kidnapped in Mexico, their first thought would be, oh, no, 646 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: she is the keys to my house. 647 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. He probably he probably wouldn't have been too happy 648 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 4: with that one. And I didn't tell him I was 649 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 4: going to Mexico either, so he just thought I was 650 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 4: roaming around near the campus. 651 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 2: So I mean, are you constantly getting into these crazy adventures? 652 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 4: I want to say no, but if you were to 653 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 4: ask my friend, they would probably say one hundred percent. 654 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean they're not. 655 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 4: Always that extreme, but they're definitely kind of out there. 656 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: What's your whole what's your name again? By the way, Uh, Lauren, Lauren? 657 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 2: What's your whole? Prerogative? Lauren? What are you doing? What's 658 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 2: your deal? 659 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 4: I do? I have no idea. Like I'm twenty four. 660 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 4: I feel like I've done so much in such a 661 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: short time. Like I don't really have family problems. It's 662 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 4: not like it's me like lashing out and stuff like that. 663 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 4: I just I don't know. Maybe it's like I didn't 664 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 4: have enough, like not control, but my parents telling me like, hey, 665 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 4: don't do that type of thing growing up. So it's 666 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 4: like Worlds the Oyster. I'm gonna keep going like I 667 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 4: do understand consequences. Obviously, I have an inkle monitor. 668 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 2: But what's next for you? What do you want to 669 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: be next? 670 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 4: That's a good question. I'm having the inkle monitor. I 671 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 4: have had my highs of highs and the lowest of lows, 672 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: so I've had a lot of time for self reflection. Definitely, 673 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 4: once I get this off, I probably will just stay sober. 674 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 4: But I don't know. I kind of wanted to get 675 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 4: there was like a small timeframe where I thought about 676 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 4: getting into like being a probation officer because I was like, 677 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 4: you know what, I kind of like this, Like I 678 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 4: check in with my probation officer every day. I went 679 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 4: into the jail and like talk to the other probation 680 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 4: officer for three hours just about life. 681 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 2: Are you are you going to move? So you're planning 682 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: on moving to La or I guess southern. 683 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 4: Probably like San Diego to Mecula. 684 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: Okay, and you try to become a probation. 685 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 4: Maybe. I mean it was just like an idea that 686 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 4: crossed my mind because I also used to work for 687 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 4: Have you ever had a super Cross? 688 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 3: No? 689 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: Wait, h is that just a bike thing? 690 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,439 Speaker 4: Yeah? So in the summer they have pro Moto, which 691 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 4: is like their outdoor circuit, and I used to work 692 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 4: for that. So I lived in a van, I got paid, 693 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 4: I live in my boss's van and drive cross country 694 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 4: with the mountain bikes for Specialized And so I really 695 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 4: enjoyed that, and I met a lot of people in 696 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 4: the industry and it's given me a lot of connections 697 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 4: that I think it'd be super cool to get back into. 698 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 4: Not necessarily like writing because I don't race, but something 699 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 4: in the sports industry. 700 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: That could be cool. I do you do? You do 701 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 2: you predict that you will still have a have a 702 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 2: lust for adventure and want to go to weird places 703 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 2: by yourself and hang out with strangers. Absolutely, yeah, I'm 704 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 2: sort of addicted. I'm sort of addicted to that too, 705 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 2: But I'm good. I'm at a point in my life 706 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this a lot. I I do, 707 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: I do. I like to do that, And you know 708 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 2: a lot of what I do in my career as 709 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: a gecko is that I did it even before I 710 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 2: had I was doing the Gecko thing, but also a 711 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 2: lot of part of me is like wonders how much 712 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: longer I can do that before it's I don't know, 713 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: I guess sad or yeah, or or it gets me 714 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 2: only or whatever. I mean, I'm only. I'm about to 715 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: be twenty six years old in a month. 716 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 4: Okay, so we're similar to the same age. 717 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's your birthday December. 718 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 4: Twentieth, Okay, I'm January fourth. 719 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm about to be twenty six. And I don't know. 720 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: Brother's still like I I you know, I get all 721 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: these da I mean, I get all these dms from people. 722 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 2: I mean on the podcast a couple of weeks ago, 723 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: I guy was talking to the guy in Pakistan and 724 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: I mentioned that people should DM me to go, you know, 725 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: film a video with them in a crazy place. And 726 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 2: I still want to do all that stuff. And you know, 727 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 2: there's this guy on YouTube. His name is Peter Santanello. 728 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone knows who he is, but 729 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 2: he's like inspiring to me because he's like forty five 730 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 2: or something like that, and he's still running around making 731 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 2: videos all over the world, hanging out with strangers of 732 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: all different ages and you know, but he's also got 733 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 2: like a wife and shit, and you know, he's not fat, 734 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that could be cool if I 735 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: could do that, if I could have some kind of 736 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 2: like stable life and you know, a semblance of real 737 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: you know, relationship home kind of a thing, but also 738 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 2: be able to you know, go hang out. Yeah, hang 739 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 2: out with a stranger in Mexico and not die and 740 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: make a video about it. So I don't know, maybe 741 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 2: there's a way to buy in all those universes. 742 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Because I also work at a like a restaurant 743 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 4: bar out here in Utah, and the other day one 744 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 4: of my tables was these guys that are on a 745 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 4: hockey team, and so they were playing the Utah Grizzlies 746 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 4: and just me just over sharing my life. The one 747 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 4: guy was like, give me your number and I'll give 748 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 4: you some tickets. So I went to the game and 749 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 4: then we were just chatting after and I was like, 750 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 4: I guess I'll have to come to Canada. But then 751 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 4: we remember, data can't really go to Canada with a 752 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 4: criminal record, which I don't know if I technicues. I 753 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 4: think I do have a criminal record, unfortunately, But you 754 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 4: can't go. So then I told him. I was like, well, 755 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 4: it looks like you're either gonna have to come back 756 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 4: to Utah, California or go to Mexico with me. And 757 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 4: so we're going to plan a Mexico trip. And I've 758 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 4: met this guy once, but I mean, the odds of 759 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 4: it following through are probably slim. But also I'm the 760 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 4: type of person that's like, if I invite you to 761 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 4: go on a trip with me, even if you don't go, 762 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 4: I'll probably still go on the trip. 763 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: I'd say that's the way to do it. That's the 764 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: way to do it. 765 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you ever want to go to Mexico, gag, 766 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 4: we could go. 767 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mentioned that I'm moving away. 768 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: Oh well, I don't know what the fuck I'm gonna do. 769 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: But I have been wanting to go to Tijuana even 770 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 2: though I've heard it. You can be a little crazy. 771 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 772 00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 4: Luckily, my mom has a house in Portavarta, so that's 773 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 4: where I would prefer to go, but don't want to. 774 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: Crossing the border is really fun. It's a little time consuming, 775 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 4: but the adventure is there. 776 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 2: Does your mom make good tostatus? 777 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 4: No? My mom? Well, my mom is white. My dad's Mexican. 778 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 4: Bless my mom, but she can't She can cook, but 779 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 4: she can't really cook. My dad's a better cook. My 780 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 4: parents don't know that I had a DUI. 781 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 2: Oh they don't. 782 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: No. 783 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 4: This happened in May and it's already November and they 784 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 4: still don't know. And I'm going home for Christmas and 785 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 4: I am on the fence whether or not I want 786 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 4: to tell them or not. And I have an ankle monitor, 787 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 4: so it's like, okay, but look, how you just wear pants. Well, 788 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 4: but it's also California, so it could potentially be warm. 789 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 4: Probably not. 790 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 2: But how do you think they would react to seeing 791 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: that you have the ankle modeler? 792 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 4: Probably a little disappointed. 793 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 2: M Lauren. I don't know you very well, but you 794 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 2: seem like you can deal with people being a little 795 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 2: disappointed in you. 796 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeahau as long. So that's the thing, is like 797 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 4: getting a toe is it's not the worst thing in 798 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 4: the world, but it definitely should give everybody a reality 799 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 4: check if you've ever gotten one. And it has given 800 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,439 Speaker 4: me like the world's biggest reality check. Uh. And I'm 801 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 4: i the reason I can joke about my situation and 802 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 4: make it so lighthearted because I understand and I can 803 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 4: acknowledge the consequences that could have happened, Like it could 804 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 4: have gone so much worse. I could have wrecked my car, 805 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 4: I could have killed somebody, like all the w but 806 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 4: in my case, I just barely rolled a stop sign 807 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 4: and that was on and off the road. That was it. 808 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 2: So I hope that you you know, I don't know. 809 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 2: I'm back and forth on the whole whether you know, 810 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 2: I hope. I hope that you are able to have 811 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 2: further adventures in your life. I don't get, you know, 812 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of bullshitting myself because I don't see why, 813 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 2: you know, just because I mean, we're a similar age, 814 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 2: and I don't see why just because we turned some age, 815 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 2: we're supposed to stop going on weird adventures. I don't know. 816 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 2: I think all that stuff is arbitrary. So I hope 817 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 2: you continue to go on as many weird adventures as 818 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 2: you want, you know, within the bounds of safety, of course, yeah. 819 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,439 Speaker 4: Which I mean, I always, I always. Sometimes I don't 820 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 4: think in the moment, but I feel like I always 821 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 4: do have a good gut feeling and I do have 822 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 4: a good head on my shoulders and I kind of 823 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 4: know when to draw the line and if I'm pushing 824 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 4: that line a little too much. And like that's the 825 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 4: thing too, is even just trying to date, it's hard 826 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 4: to find guys that are gonna be like you did 827 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,760 Speaker 4: what you let a stranger take you where? Like okay, yeah, 828 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 4: I did, I let a stranger take me somewhere, but 829 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 4: like I don't know, I survived. I'm here. 830 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 2: I guess that's a good point. I think about that 831 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 2: all the time when like you ever meet somebody old 832 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 2: and they tell you and they not old, but like 833 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 2: like somebody who's like a crazy, reckless driver and they're 834 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 2: like twenty five, yeah, and you're like, wow, you've probably 835 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 2: been driving like this for nine years and you haven't died. 836 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy. Yeah, And I think about that if 837 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 2: I'm like ever in the car with them, I'll think 838 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 2: about that, because I've been in a car with a 839 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 2: crazy driver couple of times, and I like, while I'm 840 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 2: praying that we're not going to die, I think to myself, 841 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, why, now, why would they if they've 842 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 2: been driving like this every day for nine years, why 843 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 2: would it be now with me in the car that 844 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 2: they would crash. 845 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you never know. It's one of those weird 846 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 4: things that's like people are always like, I don't know 847 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 4: how to say it. Like some people are like, if 848 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 4: it's your time, it's your time, and like everything kind 849 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 4: of happens for a reason, and like I think me 850 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 4: getting this DUI kind of happened for a reason. It's 851 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 4: super shitty, but it is an expensive lesson and I'm 852 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 4: very thankful in a way because I've learned so much 853 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 4: about myself and like where my priorities are and what 854 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 4: I want out of life and stuff like that. 855 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 2: Well, Lauren, is there anything else you want to say 856 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go? 857 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 4: I know you you said something about like everybody always 858 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 4: say something inspirational. I thought about it. I was like, oh, 859 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 4: I don't drink. 860 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 2: A jive, but okay, so I'm just get there's a 861 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 2: sign note real quick. One time I was I was 862 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: not expecting this to go viral within the gecko community. 863 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: But one time I said on the podcast, everyone always 864 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 2: answers that, because I say at the end of every call, 865 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 2: if it trens anything else you want to say, And 866 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 2: I said one time that everyone always answers it with 867 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: a motivational thing, and I think I said, you don't 868 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 2: have to do that. And I said that once and 869 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 2: now every time I ask the question, everyone responds by saying, oh, 870 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 2: I know you don't like it when people say motivational things. 871 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 2: All I was saying, I don't have to say something, 872 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 2: but you say whatever, say whatever you want. Lauren. 873 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I think I'm gonna go with send the 874 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 4: forty dollars on an uber because ten thousand dollars is 875 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 4: not worth it. 876 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 2: I like that. Uh, thank you for calling, Lauren. Have 877 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: a rest of the night. 878 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 4: You do by Oh. 879 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 2: You know what, I'm going. 880 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 4: To to Juana call from Kaylee? 881 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, how's it going. It's going good? What's up? Kaylee? 882 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 3: Not much? I'm just hanging out in bed? 883 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 2: Wow? Are you are you? Are you comfy? Cozy? As 884 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 2: they would say, comfy. 885 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 1: Cozy, so comfy cozy. 886 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 2: Rock and roll. That's a good place to be. Well, 887 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 2: let's let's get a little uncomfortable, shall we. That's a 888 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 2: weird thing to say. What's up? What's your name? Say 889 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 2: your name one more time? 890 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 4: Kaylee? 891 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: Kayley, Okay, that's what I thought it was, Kaylee. What 892 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 2: would you want to talk about today. 893 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm a little unhappy at where I am in 894 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 3: my life right now in general, mostly because I'm in 895 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 3: a PhD program and I have been thinking about leaving 896 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 3: for like a year. Now. 897 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 2: What PhD program are you in? 898 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,959 Speaker 3: I am getting my degree in molecular cell biology. 899 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can see why you want to quit. Yeah, 900 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 2: it sounds awful. What made you want to do that? 901 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,240 Speaker 3: Well? In college, I ended up working in a research 902 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 3: lab and I kind of liked it, and I was like, well, 903 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 3: why not keep doing this for a little bit longer 904 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 3: and so I can figure out a more like stable 905 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 3: career path. So I figured grad school was a really 906 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 3: great option, and now I hate my life. 907 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: It's not. I mean, looking at cells, right, they move 908 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: slightly every once in a while, don't they? Oh? 909 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah they do. 910 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: It's so I ended up doing so. 911 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 3: I ended up joining a cancer rec search labs. And 912 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 3: one of the things that kind of goes through my 913 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 3: head all the time is, Wow, cancer is like so 914 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 3: hard to study. I don't know if anything I'll ever 915 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 3: do will amount to any sort of treatment for anyone. 916 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 3: So it just feels really futile and kind of like, 917 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 3: you know. 918 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 2: It's funny. You know, I think it's so funny. Is 919 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 2: just you represent this idea that, like, you know, humanity 920 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 2: never finds the cure to cancer because you know, we 921 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 2: just got bored. 922 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: You know. I wish that. I wish that was. 923 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,879 Speaker 2: Bored of sitting in like all the scientists that we're 924 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 2: working on it, we're looking at cells and writing things 925 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 2: down and being like, this fucking sucks. I want to 926 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 2: go get high and moved and play video games. This 927 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 2: is fucking boring, And it's actually kind of cool that, Like, 928 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of people who do do that, 929 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 2: but as a whole science, even though it's boring to 930 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 2: sit and look at cells, we still do it and 931 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 2: that's cool. 932 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 3: I feel like my there are there definitely are people 933 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 3: that hate their lives in grad school because they think 934 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 3: it's boring. I feel like I still definitely have an 935 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 3: interest in science. It's just I think the whole process 936 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 3: is overwhelming. I think the structure of academia is stupid. 937 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 3: I don't know if what I want to do with 938 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 3: my life now I necessarily need a PhD. There's all 939 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 3: sorts of factors that that are contributing what you want. 940 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 2: To do with your What do you want to do 941 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 2: with your life? Now? 942 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 3: That is a great question. I've always told myself that 943 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to be a professor or run a 944 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 3: labor anything that I just want to go sell my 945 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 3: soul and work for big pharma. But nice, but those 946 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 3: jobs are so incredibly hard to get. And yeah, I 947 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 3: don't know if I necessarily want to grow cells in 948 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 3: a dish and give mice cancer anymore. 949 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 2: You know, it's everyone shits on being a sellout, but 950 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: they don't know how hard it is to get those 951 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 2: sell out jobs. It's not easy selling out. 952 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 3: Oh definitely, it's not. 953 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 2: All right. Do you wanna uh, well, if you quit 954 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 2: your PhD today, what would your what would tomorrow look like? 955 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 3: Hmmm? Well, I think my my, my boss, and my 956 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 3: lab would probably let me stay until I found this job, 957 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 3: and I would probably start looking at jobs in science 958 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 3: in my city. It's like there there there are some, 959 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 3: so I think I I would probably be able to get. 960 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: Something, but I don't know. 961 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 3: I remember I reflect back to like, I'm just gonna 962 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 3: sound really stupid. I reflect back to like high school 963 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 3: when I was a cashier at a grocery store, and 964 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 3: I like, really enjoyed talking to people, and I'm like, 965 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,760 Speaker 3: maybe I would like doing some retail or customer service 966 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 3: for like a little while and then just to get 967 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 3: my bearings. But I know, I'm sure lots of people 968 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 3: in customer service are like yelling, being like, do not 969 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 3: do that? 970 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 2: Have you done? Wait? Hollo? I said, but you've done 971 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 2: it before. 972 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 3: I kind of so. I don't know if you count 973 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 3: cashier at a grocery store as like retail. 974 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: I kind of did. 975 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, how long were you doing that for? 976 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,760 Speaker 3: I just like two years in high school? 977 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 2: Okay? And did anyone ever come in and spit on 978 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 2: you and make you want to never do it ever again? 979 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 3: No? But I did have weird middle aged men try 980 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 3: and hit on me when I was like fifteen. 981 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, did well about But I don't I 982 00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 2: don't think what's your name again, Kayley. I don't think 983 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 2: that the decision to be like looking at cells sucks. 984 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 2: I want to do something with my hands and look 985 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 2: at people and talk to them. I don't think it's 986 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 2: a bad call. I don't think it's a bad call. 987 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,720 Speaker 2: Well because also, I mean, yeah, you say that people 988 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,720 Speaker 2: in customer service might be listening to this and screaming 989 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 2: at you not to do it. But everyone's everyone's wired differently. 990 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 2: They are so for there are some jobs that for 991 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 2: some people are the you know, hellish, and then for 992 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 2: other people they are you know, like you know, bagging 993 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 2: groceries and talking to old ladies and stuff. So I 994 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,359 Speaker 2: don't think it's a bad move to. I don't think 995 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 2: it's bad to you know, what is it two steps back, 996 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 2: one step forward, or two steps back, three steps forward 997 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,400 Speaker 2: some shit like that, something. 998 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 3: With steps the step steps like the. 999 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,880 Speaker 2: Steps at up to be good step but yeah, why not. 1000 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just it's just such a big decision because 1001 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 3: if I left, I probably would never be able to 1002 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 3: go back and get a PhD if that's something I 1003 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,840 Speaker 3: wanted to go back to, at least at the university 1004 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 3: on that now. So it's just a big can you. 1005 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 2: Just learn all that? Look, whatever you're learning in your PhD, 1006 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure is on YouTube. 1007 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 3: I man, maybe I missed, Maybe I missed. 1008 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 4: A big video essay about how to cure cancer. 1009 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 2: I bet no, I bet I bet there's a guy 1010 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 2: on the YouTube who knows, like, here's how to cure 1011 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 2: cancer from a cell. It's you know, it's probably like 1012 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 2: a three hour long video, but you'll know how to 1013 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 2: do it by the end. 1014 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll have to do a deep dive definitely. 1015 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 2: Well, Kaylee, I'm glad that I was able to successfully 1016 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 2: convince you to make a major life decision. 1017 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 3: I'm appreciate it, Lyle, thank you so much. 1018 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 2: Is is there anything else you want to say to 1019 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go? 1020 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 3: No? I well, I know you get so many callers 1021 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 3: that are like, I've been listening to you for ages, 1022 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 3: but I'm kind of a recent caller. I started listening 1023 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 3: to your podcast like a couple of months ago, and 1024 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 3: oh cool. 1025 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 4: They definitely brightened my days. 1026 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 2: Cool. Thanks man, I'm glad you I'm glad it's no. 1027 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 2: I think that's awesome. I'm glad the new people are 1028 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 2: are are listening to the pod. I hope, I hope 1029 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 2: that you continue to listen for as long as you 1030 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 2: enjoy listening. 1031 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 4: You got it. 1032 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be back. 1033 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 4: Thanks again, Take care, Cayley, all right, have a good night. 1034 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 2: Karen cancer sounds boring as hell, never bek and goes 1035 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,439 Speaker 2: on the line, thank yous all calls every night, never 1036 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 2: goes to what guy just teaching you? 1037 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: A loud and lively expert